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I got the Thypoch Eureka. You undersold this lens. It is really good. I am just playing with it and doing some tests. I have only had it two days. Coming from TTH/Cooke it has the Amotal trick of being soft and glowing but still sharp. Those guys know their Planars. I also have an Elcan coming in four or five days. The retro lenses are so nice. CV has some sharp lenses but too clinical. I want to take pictures not make engravings.
Matt, I am in the process of looking for a 50MM lens for my M11-P. The three I have in mind are Thypoch Eureka, Voigtlander Nokton F1.5 and Voigtlander APO F2. Which one would you say is most practical? I demoed the Eureka and I am a bit weary on the aperture ring. I find myself unintentionally moving it (since it does not have hard stop) constantly between shots.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaComComparing with LLL 50/1.2 may be very interesting. And, conduct some tests with LLL 50/2 Elcan and 50/2 SP2 are more challenging.
Thanks for the review! Very useful. So apart from the supplied slip on filter, how easy is it going to be to source and fit other coloured filters? And a clickless aperture? Is it easy to shift that accidentally?
Most people will use this on digital I think (in the modern day) so there won't be a huge new demand for filters. You can find normal push on filters on eBay used. I didn't have an issue moving the aperture by accident.
It's interesting that they came out with the two wide in the Simera line and suddenly jump to a new line for the "standard" lens. It will be cool to see them eventually fill out the typical focal lengths with Simera as I think they are quite interesting and innovative. I am not the biggest fan on how the Ultron 35mm render images, but it is permanently parked on my M240 when now in use because it has matching black paint!
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I almost got a LLL 35/2 instead of the Ulton as my Nokton Classic replacement, I do like the rending of that lens much better!
Hey Matt, I've seen that you've tried the lens with Leica M3, does it "click" into the mount? I've tried 3 copies but none of them "click" into the mount. However the lens clicks into my M10 without any issue. I hope you can tell me if this is a known issue. Great video as always!
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom hmm, that’s interesting. Unfortunately, none of the 3 copies I’ve tried clicked :(. Thanks for sharing your experience though!
Thank you for this interesting well done review. Photos look very nice as always. Perhaps it wouldn't merit a whole new video, but I'm curious to learn more about the differences between the Eureka and the Elcan.
Great review. Best I have seen for a lens I truly want to add to my collection. Still would be willing to wait for the black version. Till then my Minolta M Mount 40 will do for my compact normal.
Correct, no collapsible lens can ever hit a FF sensor as it would hit the light baffle/ inside of the camera before it can reach the sensor. On MF digital there could be more of a risk.
Hi Matt Thank you for your comparison and the effort you put into it. I think it's great.👌 A little tip: you lower your head because the camera you are filming with is apparently very low or tilted.😁 And another very professional video, thank you👍 Lg Anderl
Thanks and yes correct. I sometimes have the camera lower to show the table/ angle I want to record at and I don't mind coming down to camera angle level.
...danke Matt! Ich habe an meiner M3 DS das Sumicrome 50mm Regite f2.0 versenkbar. Die Bilder sind etwas weich aber da man es weiß läßt man es in der Bildgestaltung mit einfließen...👍
That's a nice find. The right lens for the right job. No lens is right all the time. One thing I learned from your photos, is that models have absolutely no idea how to hold a camera. LOL
My thought on Silver Lens is that it still looks good on a Black Camera. So this Typoch Lens on my Nikon Zf will look Retro and awesome, on my M8 Black I wouldn't mind a little splash of Bling. I always go with performance. In the coming years there will be a black version or something better. It is a Great time to have many options for camera systems these days. So many choices is a good thing. I have Leica M Voigtlanders 24mm, 75mm & Leica APO-Sumicron APSH f/2 90mm and am looking for that 50mm to round it off. 24mm is in the middle of the 21mm and 35mm so the 50mm be perfect stop gap that I am looking for. I am agreeing with You about Light Lens they are doing a Fabulous Renderings of Classics at an Affordable price. As you know I have multiple 50mm Nikkor lenses and one more will not keep me from using different ones on special occasions. The problem is PreOrder and Backorder and then Customs. Always waiting for the mail it seems. But the anticipitation of receiving one feels like Christmas Morning when I was a Child and didn't care waking up at 4am to see what special present that could bring me JOY and a Smile to my face. Thanks Matt! Cheers!
Hum if you are used to voigtlander lenses , the 40mm f1.4 could be a good alternative less costly and faster… and it s black :). Honnestly I don t see the interest of such a lens on a Zf… too small and with not exceptional quality mm for it I just bought for it the voigtlander 40mm f 1.2 and … it s just a dream. But if the 50mm is your cup of tea go there, what is important is to enjoy what you buy :).
What is this lens retail for? As a side note, having owned Leicas for longer than I care to remember, I have often wondred why it is that given the nature of all the Leica M cameras and their 35 & 50 lenses Leica never impkemented a focus lock. I don't mean that bloody infinity lock, it is as useful a spare dick in an orgy for photography, but a focus lock would let you set the focus for zone focusing or hyperfocal and be done with it. I am sure some China guy will soon implement this super useful feature. I also don't care much forlenshoos using a screw to secure it on the lens. Just take a look at the older Leica lenshoods with twin push tabs and also being dual focal length. We shall see, Matt.
Link below to the lens / price as mentioned in the video. I'm not sure we need focus lock with MF, just set it and forget like with zone focusing but I know what you mean.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom It doesn't work, Matt. It is very easy to move the focus with a Leica lens, unless the helicoil has been greased with a very viscous grade, particularly with the older Leitz lenses.
Thypoch? It sounds like the breed name of Aunt Veronica's miniature dog. However, if one looks at Leica catalogs from the 1950s, full of names like SWOOP or ZOUM, one realizes that Leica cannot cast the first stone here.
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I got the Thypoch Eureka. You undersold this lens. It is really good. I am just playing with it and doing some tests. I have only had it two days. Coming from TTH/Cooke it has the Amotal trick of being soft and glowing but still sharp. Those guys know their Planars. I also have an Elcan coming in four or five days. The retro lenses are so nice. CV has some sharp lenses but too clinical. I want to take pictures not make engravings.
Great lens. You see it’s glued to my film cameras.
Thanks, another good review. Thorough and knowledgeable.
Thanks Sandy!
Thanks for the amazing review! How does it compare against Voigtlander VM 50mm 1.5 II? Which one would you suggest for Leica M6? Thanks :)
Thanks, I bought the Thypoch and use on my M3 and other film cameras. Amazing lens, my goto for film now as small and cheap too.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Thanks for the reply! Just ordered the Thypoch thanks to you :)
Great review Matt.
I want them to make a line up of collapsable lenses with all the popular focal lengths. That would be amazing
Great idea! Thanks
Matt, I am in the process of looking for a 50MM lens for my M11-P. The three I have in mind are Thypoch Eureka, Voigtlander Nokton F1.5 and Voigtlander APO F2. Which one would you say is most practical? I demoed the Eureka and I am a bit weary on the aperture ring. I find myself unintentionally moving it (since it does not have hard stop) constantly between shots.
Very different! Thypoch for me. APO for max sharpness
I'm looking forward to comparing it with the Light Lens Lab 50mm f/1.2 "1966". When i get them both in.
Nice! I think they'll be very different but I'm sure you know that! :)
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaComComparing with LLL 50/1.2 may be very interesting. And, conduct some tests with LLL 50/2 Elcan and 50/2 SP2 are more challenging.
Maybe I missed it, but what’s the advantage of a collapsible lens? Is it just a function of focus? TIA for your response.
Packs smaller for travel / I shoot overseas a lot
wow great crank ... just ordrered one with you code for my M3... 👍
Thanks Grom! Yes really nice lens. You'll love it I think! (and thanks!)
I have, in my collection the T-H 2 inch f2 lens that this is based on. The lens is sitting on my Reid III a copy of the leica IIIb
Excellent! I could probably appreciate any differences then to the new Thypoch.
Thanks for the review! Very useful.
So apart from the supplied slip on filter, how easy is it going to be to source and fit other coloured filters? And a clickless aperture? Is it easy to shift that accidentally?
Most people will use this on digital I think (in the modern day) so there won't be a huge new demand for filters. You can find normal push on filters on eBay used. I didn't have an issue moving the aperture by accident.
There is something to be said for consistency when it is good. Wonderful lens review.
Thanks Sandy!
It's interesting that they came out with the two wide in the Simera line and suddenly jump to a new line for the "standard" lens. It will be cool to see them eventually fill out the typical focal lengths with Simera as I think they are quite interesting and innovative.
I am not the biggest fan on how the Ultron 35mm render images, but it is permanently parked on my M240 when now in use because it has matching black paint!
Thanks Rex and yes. If you have the funds get the LLL black 35/2 rigid! I use that now as my goto.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I almost got a LLL 35/2 instead of the Ulton as my Nokton Classic replacement, I do like the rending of that lens much better!
Hey Matt, I've seen that you've tried the lens with Leica M3, does it "click" into the mount? I've tried 3 copies but none of them "click" into the mount. However the lens clicks into my M10 without any issue. I hope you can tell me if this is a known issue. Great video as always!
Hmm strange, can you try to push it a little more. I’ve had 3 copies (now have a black brasses one too) and no issues.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom hmm, that’s interesting. Unfortunately, none of the 3 copies I’ve tried clicked :(. Thanks for sharing your experience though!
Thank you for this interesting well done review. Photos look very nice as always. Perhaps it wouldn't merit a whole new video, but I'm curious to learn more about the differences between the Eureka and the Elcan.
Thanks, perhaps in the future but for now just compare images from the 2 lens videos. The Thypoch is definitely more modern looking to me (rendering)
Great review. Best I have seen for a lens I truly want to add to my collection. Still would be willing to wait for the black version. Till then my Minolta M Mount 40 will do for my compact normal.
Thanks Howard! I tried to give all the answers so people can decide if it's for them. +1 for black lenses & LTM!
Matt, nice video.
I assume the back of this lens won’t hit an M11 sensor when it’s collapsed. Is this correct?
Correct, no collapsible lens can ever hit a FF sensor as it would hit the light baffle/ inside of the camera before it can reach the sensor. On MF digital there could be more of a risk.
Does it have a good extended lock?. That one of the issues I find with some of my vintage collapsible Leica glass.
Hi, it’s based on vintage Leica period lenses so ‘normal’ I think
Hopefully they will release it in black. Another great review. Thanks Matt...
Thank you and yes fingers crossed!
Hi Matt
Thank you for your comparison and the effort you put into it. I think it's great.👌 A little tip: you lower your head because the camera you are filming with is apparently very low or tilted.😁
And another very professional video, thank you👍
Lg Anderl
Thanks and yes correct. I sometimes have the camera lower to show the table/ angle I want to record at and I don't mind coming down to camera angle level.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom well, if you can cope with it, that's all right 👍👌
...danke Matt! Ich habe an meiner M3 DS das Sumicrome 50mm Regite f2.0 versenkbar. Die Bilder sind etwas weich aber da man es weiß läßt man es in der Bildgestaltung mit einfließen...👍
Thanks Adam, nice!
I will wait for the LTM version to be released (hopefully).
I hope they release a black lens too! I'm ready!
That's a nice find. The right lens for the right job. No lens is right all the time.
One thing I learned from your photos, is that models have absolutely no idea how to hold a camera. LOL
Thanks and haha the model bit, my fault for forgetting to tell them!
Nice 😊
Can you collapse it on a digital M?
Yes, if I didn't mention it in this video watch the 15x 50mm lenses I posted a few videos before where I cover it.
My thought on Silver Lens is that it still looks good on a Black Camera. So this Typoch Lens on my Nikon Zf will look Retro and awesome, on my M8 Black I wouldn't mind a little splash of Bling. I always go with performance. In the coming years there will be a black version or something better. It is a Great time to have many options for camera systems these days. So many choices is a good thing. I have Leica M Voigtlanders 24mm, 75mm & Leica APO-Sumicron APSH f/2 90mm and am looking for that 50mm to round it off. 24mm is in the middle of the 21mm and 35mm so the 50mm be perfect stop gap that I am looking for. I am agreeing with You about Light Lens they are doing a Fabulous Renderings of Classics at an Affordable price. As you know I have multiple 50mm Nikkor lenses and one more will not keep me from using different ones on special occasions. The problem is PreOrder and Backorder and then Customs. Always waiting for the mail it seems. But the anticipitation of receiving one feels like Christmas Morning when I was a Child and didn't care waking up at 4am to see what special present that could bring me JOY and a Smile to my face. Thanks Matt! Cheers!
Hum if you are used to voigtlander lenses , the 40mm f1.4 could be a good alternative less costly and faster… and it s black :). Honnestly I don t see the interest of such a lens on a Zf… too small and with not exceptional quality mm for it I just bought for it the voigtlander 40mm f 1.2 and … it s just a dream. But if the 50mm is your cup of tea go there, what is important is to enjoy what you buy :).
Thanks Randall! (My LLL orders have been pretty quick and easy via FedEx to the UK*). Love their 35/2 rigid and Elcan!
I’ve got this lens and love it!
Great! Yes I love it too!
😊
Thanks!
Beethoven was born in the 18th Century, but is considered a member of the 19th Century Romantic period. So youre almost right.
Thanks!
14:11 name of the model, please)
Hi, Check my instagram to find the models I work with. I tag them all
11:22 👀
Thanks!
Black paint please!
+1 for me! Thanks
What is this lens retail for? As a side note, having owned Leicas for longer than I care to remember, I have often wondred why it is that given the nature of all the Leica M cameras and their 35 & 50 lenses Leica never impkemented a focus lock. I don't mean that bloody infinity lock, it is as useful a spare dick in an orgy for photography, but a focus lock would let you set the focus for zone focusing or hyperfocal and be done with it. I am sure some China guy will soon implement this super useful feature. I also don't care much forlenshoos using a screw to secure it on the lens. Just take a look at the older Leica lenshoods with twin push tabs and also being dual focal length. We shall see, Matt.
Link below to the lens / price as mentioned in the video. I'm not sure we need focus lock with MF, just set it and forget like with zone focusing but I know what you mean.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom It doesn't work, Matt. It is very easy to move the focus with a Leica lens, unless the helicoil has been greased with a very viscous grade, particularly with the older Leitz lenses.
Well nice lens but 700$ with taxes… I keep my 40mm voigtlander f1.4 :).
Yes that 40 14 is still a great bargain (and more character!)
Thypoch? It sounds like the breed name of Aunt Veronica's miniature dog. However, if one looks at Leica catalogs from the 1950s, full of names like SWOOP or ZOUM, one realizes that Leica cannot cast the first stone here.
haha very true!! :)