How The Matilda Effect Removes Women in STEM From History - Beyond the Scenes | The Daily Show

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  • @onalos1271
    @onalos1271 Год назад +100

    As a woman scientist who was married to a male scientist, women are VERY discriminated against in the sciences. Men are pushed/pulled forward into management and women are leveled out to do the grunt work. Doesn't matter if you work longer hours, work smarter, multi-task, are a better scientist... still the men will be given more opportunity, higher raises, more voice and face-time etc. There's no rational explanation at this point other than sexist discrimination.

    • @lindajohnsonkaplan647
      @lindajohnsonkaplan647 Год назад +21

      My experience was the same starting in college when male students tended to be louder and exhibited (misplaced) confidence in chemistry classes. Comments to female students were frequently sexist put downs and only stopped once grades began to speak for themselves.

    • @CHIEF_420
      @CHIEF_420 Год назад

      🧂

    • @juventinocasillas3023
      @juventinocasillas3023 Год назад

      Its because women are less likely to ask for promotions. Men are more assertive by nature. Its not mens fault women are less assertive. Be mad at your nature, not men.

    • @lindajohnsonkaplan647
      @lindajohnsonkaplan647 Год назад +7

      @@juventinocasillas3023 That’s hilarious .

    • @onalos1271
      @onalos1271 Год назад +5

      @@juventinocasillas3023 lol you have no idea what I'm like other than the cartoons playing in your head. I'm very assertive. But yah, keep on making up fairy tales.

  • @arrluk8154
    @arrluk8154 Год назад +36

    I had a friend who really wanted to study marine biology but her mom told her she shouldn’t because “her husband might not get a job near the ocean.” That one irked me quite a bit.
    I try to instill in all my students a love of science, but I only teach at the middle school level and even if they love science, there’s so many hurdles the girls will face on that journey between now and then.

  • @kindnessfirst9670
    @kindnessfirst9670 Год назад +63

    As a male in my 60s I always assume that (all things being equal) any given female in the sciences is probably better, smarter, harder working, or more dedicated than her random male counterpart simply due to all the extra barriers she has had to overcome to get where she is. Since realizing this about 30 years ago I have always chosen female doctors and dentists for myself and my family. Luckily I live in an area with an abundance of female medical professionals- most from Ivy League schools.

    • @CHIEF_420
      @CHIEF_420 Год назад

      🧂

    • @melissasaint3283
      @melissasaint3283 Год назад +1

      One of the female dentists I saw was pretty bad.
      But every female doctor and NP I have seen was stellar. And they LISTEN to you as a patient,
      which is not always a thing female patients can always get male doctors to do.

    • @melissasaint3283
      @melissasaint3283 Год назад +2

      @Kasha O'Basha I realize,based on your comments elsewhere, that you're trolling.
      But did you notice when I was specific about the sample size? Yes, they ALL listen....ALL the ones I have been treated by.
      Calm down, "Kasha"

  • @kindnessfirst9670
    @kindnessfirst9670 Год назад +61

    My wife is a V.P. of Software Engineering. In college (back in the early 1980s) she was always the only female in the class. Now both my daughters have science degrees. Me- I'm just a visual artist.

    • @lisalisa1435
      @lisalisa1435 Год назад +2

      Artistically visualizing your bomb ladays in your life!!!!🎉❤😊😊😊

    • @CritterKeeper01
      @CritterKeeper01 Год назад +5

      In one Physics lab, I was the only woman, and my lab partner was the only black. We were very aware of it, and of the fact that we ended up partnered.

  • @juliamira9621
    @juliamira9621 Год назад +15

    My Czech grandmother was a pediatrician all her life. When I went to the Charles University in Prague to see her records, they told me that women weren’t even accepted as medical students until relatively recently. I just stood there like a dumb American until the registrar heaved a big sigh and brought me the records from, I think it was 1919. Oops, not only was my grandmother on the rolls, but about 1/3 of the other students were also female.

  • @donwest2512
    @donwest2512 Год назад +6

    Roy I loved this interview. Thank you Katie Hafner for your work in promoting and bringing to light the work of women in science. A number of years ago I had the pleasure of learning about the important work of Henrietta Swan Leavitt's contributions to our understanding of Astrology through a play, 'Silent Sky', that my daughter was Stage Manager. OH, and Nicole, Excellent work to create the Mad Scientist sketch. Sarah Silverman brought the perfect panache to the role.

  • @NinaBitesBk
    @NinaBitesBk Год назад +8

    I would like to say that these conversations are hard. Roy, your simple and honest respect for others is LOVED. Thank you ❤

  • @McMomfaceplustwo
    @McMomfaceplustwo Год назад +96

    I was a physics major in 1999 and after 2 years had to change to biology bc there was awful sexism. The guys would accuse me of copying my work off my boyfriend and wouldn’t really study or research with me. Eventually I became so anxious I didn’t go to class. I was 17 years old and the department was less than 10% female. I’m still ashamed that I gave up on it even after going to graduate school in neuroscience.

    • @kristinnelson-patel442
      @kristinnelson-patel442 Год назад +20

      Solidarity, Sister! When I started an astronomy/physics major at an Ivy League school in 1992, there were 3 women out of 40 majors that year. One of the key professors in Junior year made it a point to yell at the women who approached him for help, and I was not included in the male groups of students from overseas who were sharing answers. There was one woman professor, and her advice was that I should avoid dating and distance myself from my family in order to dedicate myself enough to the work to be taken seriously. The only thing that got me through was research in a lab as my work-study job where I got more support from the young male assistant professor and male grad students I worked with than anyone else. I suffered terrible anxiety and depression, though I loved the subject matter. I did manage to go to grad school for a while, but for as much class reasons as sexism, I left with a Masters and got a really fulfilling job and I’ve never regretted leaving academia, though occasionally I’ve felt bittersweet about what could have been when I see women achieving in the field now. So happy it seems to be getting better, though.

    • @jackieedmondson8422
      @jackieedmondson8422 Год назад +19

      You should not be ashamed. Kudos for you excelling despite the Hostility and sexism. 🙌🫶

    • @808bigisland
      @808bigisland Год назад

      I wrote myfuture ex wife’s thesis. They really cant do it.

    • @peterslegers6121
      @peterslegers6121 Год назад +8

      Noone thrives in a toxic surroundings. Stepping out of and avoiding those might be the wise thing to do.

    • @girlfrombrazil5632
      @girlfrombrazil5632 Год назад

      @@808bigisland hi Peter!

  • @IlainaM
    @IlainaM Год назад +15

    As a female electrical engineer who graduated in the 80sit was hard and you had to be strong and focused. I noticed women being silently pushed out. Offered jobs in day tech marketing. We were told women had opportunities but not if they wanted to stay technical.

  • @lithathilakan6657
    @lithathilakan6657 Год назад +15

    Being mom of middle schoolers, i love this conversation.. I hope i can keep stem interest in my children going forward too. Middle schoolers are thinking stem career choices are not cool!!

  • @jso6790
    @jso6790 Год назад +22

    This was great. It is fascinating how little the women's contributions are reinforced enough to remember. I remember learning about the woman who mapped the ocean floor, but even now, a couple of minutes after you said it, I don't remember her name.. Ward. It really needs to be just common conversation to help get these facts into the ether and into the "common knowledge" sphere.

    • @howardcohen6817
      @howardcohen6817 Год назад +1

      Even in FLORIDA?

    • @sandrawilson8792
      @sandrawilson8792 Год назад

      ​@@kashabashathen why are you here? Must be constantly irritated. A sad waste of your time.😂

  • @jennyjumpjump
    @jennyjumpjump Год назад +4

    I got a Computer Science degree in 2003. I was one of just a few females in the program. It was a common problem that many young women would start and end up jumping ship to other science departments. The women who did stay were a bit older. I was in my late 20s returning to school for a 2nd degree and very focused on what I wanted to do. I already had a child. Most of the guys in the program were 18 or 19. I think a lot of the young women were irritated by the geek culture. My daughter also got a CS degree

  • @anju8376
    @anju8376 Год назад +37

    women of color in STEM are my heroes 🙌🏾 true underdogs

    • @sandrawilson8792
      @sandrawilson8792 Год назад

      ​@@kashabashaanything you've done you want to brag about? Just curious.

  • @jackieedmondson8422
    @jackieedmondson8422 Год назад +29

    Knowledge has crawled slowly forward because of the exclusion of women and people of color.

    • @mcollins630
      @mcollins630 Год назад +2

      Totally under-rated point!

  • @kimberlycarpenter9468
    @kimberlycarpenter9468 Год назад +7

    Speaking of erasing women--Ellie Irving wrote a children's chapter book called The Matilda Effect and it has DOMINATED the google results. It is about the same issue, but it makes it harder to find the original reference.

  • @sirlancegeo
    @sirlancegeo Год назад +7

    When I heard the explanation of the Matilda effect, it made me think of the rock and roll effect where white bands got rich and famous covering black musicians’ songs but using more expensive instruments and technology.

  • @bjdefilippo447
    @bjdefilippo447 Год назад +1

    Thanks so much for covering this! The erasure starts in the classroom. I'm on the cover of Women at Caltech from abut 40 years ago. We were told that we didn't belong, then made to feel that way constantly. Abuse, violence, taking credit for or sabotaging work, not giving authorship or credit where it was earned, not promoting, retaining, tenuring, or supporting equally... the issues are endless, and are still not being addressed as they should be.

  • @lancedrake7033
    @lancedrake7033 Год назад +41

    The female mad scientist was hilarious. And having Sara Silverman was perfect.

  • @Adrian13rams
    @Adrian13rams Год назад +8

    I don't work in STEM, but I work in an easily, historically male dominated field. When I come across another female that isn't a HR professional, I feel like I found another member of my tribe lol

  • @jaredjoplin3330
    @jaredjoplin3330 Год назад +4

    This is one of many times I have shared a Behind the Scenes with someone I love. Thank you for inspiring conversation!

  • @hopedodson8058
    @hopedodson8058 Год назад +10

    How about Beatrix Potter? She was a great Naturalist and Mycologist who discovered the symbiotic relationship between algae and fungi in Lichen (among other things). She was not allowed to present her paper to the Linnaean Society of London because she was a woman. After constantly being shut out professionally she resorted to writing and illustrating children’s books.

    • @UkeCan1
      @UkeCan1 Год назад +2

      I did not know this! The actress Hedy Lamarr was an inventor who patented frequency hopping spread spectrum technology during the war.

  • @TheSuzberry
    @TheSuzberry Год назад +8

    This was so helpful. Even being able to contrast the current and previous administrations was optimistic. My granddaughter wants to be a scientist.

  • @brittanypesch2391
    @brittanypesch2391 Год назад +31

    Even in middle school, I had a teacher get mad at me for correcting her on a chemical equation..... it was 7th grade chemistry... she got onto me for correcting her in front of the whole class. A missed opportunity to to inspire a young girl to go into stem. jokes on her though. I just got my bachelors degree in biological anthropology and archeology. This summer I'm going to field school on bonaire island to excavate shipwrecks.

    • @Literallyarealhuman
      @Literallyarealhuman Год назад

      Maybe she was still struggling from her life of being corrected all the time

  • @wanir
    @wanir Год назад +50

    Roy Wood Jr..... NEW HOST OF THE DAILY SHOW ✨️ 🎉

  • @Ash-fo3ii
    @Ash-fo3ii Год назад +26

    As an archivist, this made my month! So fascinating

    • @Jesterisim
      @Jesterisim Год назад +1

      how did you become one? Sounds very interesting.

  • @JDMimeTHEFIRST
    @JDMimeTHEFIRST Год назад +8

    Medical lab scientists are mostly women and very much underpaid. They have to know more than nurses but are paid much less. It’s insane the amount of work they do. I hope people start realizing that people behind the scenes at hospitals at hospitals (pathology) are being overworked and underpaid. They run all the tests the hospitals rely on yet they never get perks and accolades that the doctors and nurses constantly get. It’s why people quit it after so many years and hospitals are always short of lab workers. Just letting people know since they seem completely unaware how many tests they run. It’s constant work and constant thinking with only a lunch break and having to ask someone to cover you to go to the restroom.

  • @kristinlyons6854
    @kristinlyons6854 Год назад +13

    So liiiiiiiike........ when is Roy going to be announced as host?

    • @akshayde
      @akshayde Год назад +1

      I want hasan as host and roy as host of something like this. Hasan is more animated and works for a bigger show like that and roy just has a better more captivating energy for something like this. Also I want Roy to have time to work on his stand-up cuz his specials were great.

    • @Lucian_Media
      @Lucian_Media Год назад

      ​@@akshayde Nah. Hassan's voice gets irritating after a bit. And hasn't he already tanked one show? 🤡

    • @Lucian_Media
      @Lucian_Media Год назад

      Noticing how often he gets to be the correspondent in the field. 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾Food for thought

  • @mcollins630
    @mcollins630 Год назад +4

    This was so great! Yes, the reason we walked the gauntlet and ignored anyone who said no is because we fell in love with the work.

  • @dawnoberg1
    @dawnoberg1 Год назад +5

    Love this! And thanks for asking great questions!

  • @Ceej64
    @Ceej64 Год назад +4

    I'm an optical engineer. I was blown away when I found that women in optics are only 14% - lower than CS or physics in general. I'm lucky that I haven't faced sexism, but I also don't take shots without hitting back so people in general know not to mess with me. The truth about science is that it's hard - it takes someone who isn't easily deterred by failure. So I'm sure as not letting other people (or anything) stop me.

  • @alexiswelsh5821
    @alexiswelsh5821 Год назад +18

    Wilhelmina Fleming, a human computer who helped develop an organized way to categorize stars.

  • @maryellengreenlaw6793
    @maryellengreenlaw6793 Год назад +2

    Great information. Keep it up Nicole.

  • @kindnessfirst9670
    @kindnessfirst9670 Год назад +10

    I've never heard of M.I.T. called "macho" before. I imagine people there will love hearing themselves called "macho"- probably for the first time in their lives.

    • @RikardPeterson
      @RikardPeterson Год назад +2

      You do know it wasn't meant as a positive, right?

    • @Lucian_Media
      @Lucian_Media Год назад +1

      ​@@RikardPeterson sarcasm. Lol

    • @kindnessfirst9670
      @kindnessfirst9670 Год назад +2

      @@RikardPeterson When a kid grows up as a total math/ science geek (bullied and ostracized all through school by the regular kids, playboys and jocks- never going on a date, etc.) being called "macho" may not be taken as a criticism or insult at first.

  • @richardgrier8968
    @richardgrier8968 Год назад +10

    Why are so few women in computer science? Idk, but I had a friend who started at Cornel as a CS student. She looked around at her classmates and thought "these people are all geeks". She wound up switching to hospitality. (She went on to work for Marriott, and eventual travelled around the country setting up computer systems at Marriott properties.)

    • @petraw9792
      @petraw9792 Год назад +5

      Some women discover it later. But for this to happen a) there need to be opportunities to discover it, e.g. coding classes for all courses of studies, not only CS and b) companies need to drop these ridiculous requirements in job postings. Well, of course there are jobs for which you need a degree in CS. But for many jobs in IT you really don't.

  • @cowprez
    @cowprez Год назад +6

    GREAT freakin topic. Thanks so much for the stream.

  • @MichelleJNorton
    @MichelleJNorton Год назад +13

    Why do we keep doing the work? Cause we love it, and we often have no other way to do it.

  • @wandawarren2593
    @wandawarren2593 Год назад +6

    Thank you for making this podcast!!

  • @MauiMauiMe
    @MauiMauiMe Год назад +2

    One more thing about M. Curie, when you go by her university in Paris, her husband is listed first.

  • @timprovinsal1337
    @timprovinsal1337 Год назад +22

    Great book called
    " mothers of invention "
    Had this around the house for my daighters.

    • @garettkipp
      @garettkipp Год назад +1

      There are several books with that title. Can I ask who the author is, please?

  • @tj_enju
    @tj_enju Год назад +4

    ok these podcast are working... thats my 3rd and Im usually picky about these long form episodes but, maybe its the angles on the topics or its the production of the podcast or just enjoy see roywood at work but its the 3rd I've listend to on this channel and still I'm not skipping anything... I'm listening through the whole 50sumthin mins..

  • @b.a.wellman1922
    @b.a.wellman1922 Год назад

    I am a NICU nurse. How wonderful that Roy has this show. Retinopathy and oxygen therapy for premature babies is crucial...to know that a Woman helped in that research is crucial and I am thankful this is being introduced...

  • @dreamervanroom
    @dreamervanroom Год назад +3

    Women were pediatricians too.
    My pediatrician had a wife who was also a pediatrician Dr.G. and Dr.G.

  • @karandamarshall8715
    @karandamarshall8715 Год назад +3

    Revisiting Herstory would make my Grandma Phoebe Ann linguistically appreciated.

  • @katboss4886
    @katboss4886 Год назад +6

    Great conversation as always. ❤

  • @ladyvincenza
    @ladyvincenza Год назад

    I'm so glad things are improving!!! Great work to these women and the men who are sympathetic.

  • @klh2610
    @klh2610 Год назад +8

    Katie Hafner for President... Or guest host, she could guest host. She is WONDERFUL.

  • @astridafklinteberg298
    @astridafklinteberg298 Год назад

    Can we have more Roy Wood, Jr.?! He needs to be the host of the Daily Show AND all the other things!!!

  • @klh2610
    @klh2610 Год назад +14

    More on this, please.

  • @CRobinson64
    @CRobinson64 Год назад +3

    My favorite ‘WOMENS WORK STEM STEALERS’ award goes to Jocelyn Bell who discovered the PULSAR!…and the two men that got awarded the Nobel Prize for it! Because, as near as I could figure, she worked in their lab!

  • @Saeryfim
    @Saeryfim Год назад +7

    Dad Scientist: "I'm not mad, just disappointed."

  • @bradenhazle4378
    @bradenhazle4378 Год назад +8

    23:48 Nicole writes for Climate Town?? Sheiiiit you're getting a follow I love that channel.

  • @juliethompson3706
    @juliethompson3706 Год назад

    When I learned about boys being called on more in class, I changed my teaching style. I always alternate between boys and girls for questions, if there is more than 1 hand up. I do it so often now, that students will say to their friends, "It's a girl/boy next, put your hand down" or students will keep their hand up and say things like, "Teacher, me! I'm a girl/boy now"
    Doing that really changed the amount of interaction I get from all my students because they know that they will get a chance.

  • @brendabrass2715
    @brendabrass2715 Год назад

    Great show❤️

  • @lindawellner5415
    @lindawellner5415 Год назад +6

    I love you Roy!!!

  • @auntihooha
    @auntihooha Год назад +1

    At 63, I’m so done with men. Sick of being invisible - unless my body or face is being judged. I won’t give men the time of day anymore.

  • @sachsrw
    @sachsrw Год назад +10

    There are many more women than men attending colleges and universities today. Does anyone know if most of these women are in humanities or if they are more evenly spread throughout all of the disciplines?
    Also, history, as taught today (and for several decades), falls extremely short of the full history. I would venture to guess that we leave out 80% of what I would call true and important to a real historical education - that which is necessary to understand in order to avoid repeating bad ideas and events. American is begging for a complete and comprehensive educational overhaul. Unfortunately, the current political climate wants exactly the total opposite as those politicians are aiming for a training ground to produce people taught only to serve the wealthy, powerful one percent.

    • @kylekraemer5116
      @kylekraemer5116 Год назад

      I think there are more women getting bachelors degrees, but you are absolutely right that there are huge differences in discipline. In my upper-level psychology classes in Alabama, I rarely had more than around 4 male students in a 15-25 person class. I had many classes with only one male or no males at all. I’m sure for colleagues in Physics, their classes were probably the opposite.

    • @kylekraemer5116
      @kylekraemer5116 Год назад +1

      Also, I’m pretty sure the differences at the bachelor level don’t maintain at higher levels of education, or fully translate to pay. More men were getting doctorates the last time I looked into it.

  • @amyburden921
    @amyburden921 Год назад

    I took a computational linguistics class as a grad student. I had actually already defended my dissertation, so I was Dr. Burden. But my professor literally refused to explain a concept to me in class one day because "you wouldn't understand." I told him #1 try me. #2 it's your job to make sure ALL your students understand. So if you CAN'T explain it, that's on you and your teaching. Not me for being a female student. She mentions in this talk about computer programming programs only graduating 20% women. I posit it's things like this that keep those rates so low.

  • @kevinsaxon8009
    @kevinsaxon8009 Год назад +2

    I Love Professor Roy Wood Jr.

  • @ExtremelyRadiant
    @ExtremelyRadiant Год назад

    I love you, Ray!! ❤🎉😊

  • @saverdemocracy8793
    @saverdemocracy8793 Год назад +1

    THANK YOU

  • @Digital-Dan
    @Digital-Dan Год назад +1

    This was not my experience at a California research establishment. Our hiring approached parity by the time I left.

    • @bjdefilippo447
      @bjdefilippo447 Год назад +1

      I'm glad you had that positive experience. I've not been at an institution that didn't have any of these issues. If not in hiring, then promotion, retention, tenure, work assignment, resource allocation, culture, work environment, or inside the classroom.

  • @lindawellner5415
    @lindawellner5415 Год назад +5

    Rodin stole art of Camille Claudellr

  • @YossiPeretz
    @YossiPeretz Год назад

    Roy Wood Jr. should be The Daily Show host!

  • @Snooze_Addict
    @Snooze_Addict Год назад +4

    Dr. Insidia is actually crazy 😂

  • @howardcohen6817
    @howardcohen6817 Год назад +2

    We all (I assume) know highly qualified women discoverers whose brilliant work was without accreditation misappropriated, whose sexuality was misused and whose reputation diminished by the men-experts in their field. I haven't read the comments, here, but I assume that at least a quarter will be mentioning some scientist who never got credit for her work and had to, if not starve, not have had the comfortable life of her profiting, male counterparts while not mentioning having to feed, clothe and raise the children to whom she gave birth.
    This is not to say that the misappropriating male scientists were not also brilliant - just unjust and mean.

  • @amystieg7700
    @amystieg7700 Год назад

    I definitely understand the feeling where, sexism is just a part of the ticket of getting to play the game. I am finding that it is a new concept that people are not expecting that or accepting it!

  • @dreamervanroom
    @dreamervanroom Год назад +1

    Speaking of micro aggression Roy Wood uses them for subtle sarcastic comedy.

  • @22221mm
    @22221mm Год назад +2

    Katie Hafner is hilarious.

  • @Tony_AM009
    @Tony_AM009 Год назад +1

    1:51-2:06 I can't look at the idea of putting someone in a jar the same after watching certain RUclips videos.
    If you know, you know. If you don't know, don't look it up. In this case, ignorance is bliss.
    For the record, this is not an instance intended for reverse psychology, resulting in you looking it up out of curiosity or because you don't like being told what to do. You're better off not knowing.

  • @pdebourque9110
    @pdebourque9110 Год назад +2

    Oh people, just research the story of Jocelyn Belll, and you'll have the whole story in one. Trust me, worth your time...and rage!

  • @jaredjoplin3330
    @jaredjoplin3330 Год назад

    Why isn’t Roy Wood Jr. being given an audition week at The Daily Show?

    • @sirlancegeo
      @sirlancegeo Год назад

      Maybe they want to try a different minority host after the jewish guy and the black guy although there is a difference between a half black south African comedian and an a black American comedian. Maybe they’re hoping for a female or Latinx or Asian comedian instead?

  • @itsvonnieb
    @itsvonnieb Год назад

    Roy!

  • @Heothbremel
    @Heothbremel Год назад +1

  • @lindawellner5415
    @lindawellner5415 Год назад +1

    Martha Stewert was victimized

  • @seekingtruth4175
    @seekingtruth4175 Год назад

    IKR! Bruh, Rihanna replied to my dm to meet, get married, and get pregnant. I was on my way to be rich and the super bowl mvp…two weeks later trump was elected! he superannuated my life

  • @JinxedJoker
    @JinxedJoker Год назад

    I have heard such mixed messages about whether or not Trump's presidency was great or awful for comedians.

  • @dreamervanroom
    @dreamervanroom Год назад

    Matriculation is entering. After that it is t “that word”. Grrr.

  • @stefanhoimes
    @stefanhoimes Год назад

    #Roy4PermaHostPlz

  • @hwizell7478
    @hwizell7478 Год назад +1

    Waitress in the sky
    Outside wrestling loop de loop
    G force string theory
    #haiku #science #justlikeawoman

    • @Gardow
      @Gardow Год назад +2

      the-o-ry is three syllables, not two.

    • @moshiro_fumamoto
      @moshiro_fumamoto Год назад

      @@Gardow nice observation

    • @hwizell7478
      @hwizell7478 Год назад

      ruclips.net/video/FQwhsNV9Gzk/видео.html

  • @lindawellner5415
    @lindawellner5415 Год назад

    Uriosity

  • @kindnessfirst9670
    @kindnessfirst9670 Год назад

    But what does this have to do with the fictional musical comedy character "Matilda"?

  • @Literallyarealhuman
    @Literallyarealhuman Год назад

    Maybe she should’ve been in politics instead cause that’s all you guys are talking about.