My closest friend of 10 years randomly stopped talking to me about a month ago and it's been basically the worst thing ever. I don't even know why, we didn't even have a fight, he's not dead or in hospital. Just 10 years of friendship, talking nearly every day, hanging out at least once a week for that entire time and then... nothing.
That sucks. Have a friend I've known for 8 years and talk to everyday online and we didn't talk for a year cus she got mad at me calling her names during fights. Reconnected after a little over a year of no contact.
a month isnt that long, theyll probably get back to you. unless they are actually ghosting u or are blatantly talking to other people and doesnt seem busy at all
I actually think LS did the right decision with c9, Nemesis as a friend should understand that it was his only opportunity to show his talent as a coach, literally a once in a lifetime opportunity. I get that he could feel abandoned in a foreign country when he didn't went to NA, but still, it was the chance to shut mouths and do what was needed. Too bad c9 decided that wasn't what they wanted and then this just ended with LS not only ending his relationship but also not coaching anymore.
C9 dodged a bullet, better players dont carry one style all split i think it was a good early start to a hopeful Na split 2 title and worlds contention.
@@rickkim2931 i wouldn't say win games since it was 1 the start of a split so it was a weird time 2 it was such a small sample size consisting of less than ten games 3 they continues to win after the removal of LS however I am still salty that LS was removed since he did have a positive winrate% during the short stint but considering how hard he goes on "coaching" nemesis I doubt all players and even other orgmembers would appreciate his style of coaching.
Well clearly he does not seem as sweet behind the scenes. When drama always appear where you are around then maybe you are the one setting the fire. Not saying he is causing every drama he is in, but the amount of problems he has with people or public dramas is kinda because of how he acts. So he is less sweat than you think
im really sad about this, probably my fav duo in esports ever, i have the most channel points on ls's channel and second most on nemesises, and i have not watched them for over a year now. And like nemesis not saying anything about it just makes it worse, they were always so fun to watch when nemesis played and ls was just there "coaching" more like entertaining chat and making neme play katarina and shit like that. I can just hope that they will resolve this somehow, and maybe from time to time we get thoose streams/league talks again, cause ls genuenly seems like he regrets w/e happened.
This was good to hear about. I think it can help you as well as your viewers to talk somewhat openly about what's been going on. It seems like some of your relationships have been taxing / difficult for you. I can tell you're a very caring and passionate person. You're my favorite league creator. It seems like things are getting better for you and that makes me happy. Wish you the best ❤️
damn... I really love this guy, makes me emotional seeing him this nostalgic and getting a lot of parallels with my own personal life... Friends can really suck at times, but i really miss the content he used to do w/ Nemesis
The part when he says he was selfish to pursue the C9 journey, I think he was correct in trying, and he succeded with what little he did. Views were through the roof with LS on C9. Then Lol went to shit again. He shouldn't feel bad for trying I think.
@@EravohnRname they talked through discord after LS tried to settle the beef, and now we are just waiting for Neme to build up the willpower to forgive LS.
i know LS had said they talked on discord but didn't know nemesis said he just needed time. When/where did he say that? Curious so i can see if the source is good. (And maybe if i can double check it) and then pin the comment
Friends come and go. Memories and lessons last forever. If you've made mistakes in the past, just remember that they do not define who you are. If you've identified the mistakes, then you're already on the road to improving yourself. That's all anyone can ask of you. Keep your head up and keep pushing forward.
It probably is, but how does one function without expectation? In fact, expectation is a hard-coded feature in humans. For example, you always expect that the floor is gonna bear your weight. You always expect things to work as they should. If you didn't, your mind would explode. That's why uncertainty is a powerful tool for "mind control". Example: YT guidelines are vague by design, leading people to "walk on egg shells" while giving YT the ultimate power. Humans aren't just pure objects, of course. That's why communication is a high prio in any form of relationship, no?
One must be ready to adjust and deal with the stress that comes from expectation in a healthy way that doesn't hurt others. Communication plays a big role here for underatanding to take place.
@@mranderson2048 I agree with the communication point, and I hate how difficult it actually is, LS was talking here like how there were misunderstandings and stuff with Nemesis and I'm just saying in my head "you should just talk" or "you should've just talked" and then I'm the same where I can't actually talk with others about stuff for some reason, so strange. Wonder why that is, it would fix so many problems people have and we don't do it
@@mranderson2048 you're completely right but also OP never mentioned something along the lines of "therefore we should never have expectations". I believe they were just simply making a statement.
not as great as a head coach as LS tho, I still cannot make up my mind about the success that C9 had with LS combined with the abrupt collapse of such a planned and methodically prepared team around him.
Yeah man i loved those streams like you could open it and listen to it while doing other stuff and also Max knows so fking much stuff about the game its insane
@@the-ghost-6669 honestly i think ls leaving c9 ended up being good for them because they got the roster they have now. i'd love to see ls coach the current c9 roster
@@mxthajsdpo5113 They have had the least Bo5 out of any team in playoffs which is worrying though. Alot of things that went unpunished vs EG could be a problem vs 100T. Hoping for Fudge, Zven and Berserkers sake they win and perform at worlds both of them deserve it after all the effort. Jensen and Blaber is a little worrying going into finals
honestly I understand where nemesis came from, LS mention some time ago how their fight boil down to LS calling nemesis a coward for not taking the chance to go to C9 and some more worst stuff. If I was nemesis, I wouldn't wanna reach out to LS at all cause not only did I take a risk by moving to korea with him, he also took the risk of refusing other EU offers probably under LS advice. Not to mention LS has plenty of people stating that living under LS roof is like peak stress, their former Academy junglers went over it in one of their streams (Malice) where LS basically threaten him to either do everything LS said or be homeless. LS probably doing a lot better now, but it honestly sound like LS is very likely to blow up at you over small things and threaten you, I really wouldn't want to keep that kind of company around.
he's the archsnake of this scene. There's nobody more downright malicious and fake than him. Even this video he makes it seem like he's the victim every time, when he was generally a pos and caused most of the drama thru his behavior
so genuine question ls speaks korean yes? how does therapy work in korea with a guy not from the country just speak in korean or do some therapist in korea also do it in english? Just something i asked myself when watching ls
He isn't fluent. His main issue is grammar not vocabulary iirc. He got a Korean therapist that studied and got their license in the US (so presumably they're fluent in English)
@@EravohnRname Aye k makes sense, just always wondered how foreigners use services in other countries who life like fulltime there like ls in korea, and therapy was such thing who i always asked myself how does it work there when he isnt fluent in korean. But ty for answering homie
Honestly I think LS sounds like a piece of shit. Sings woe is me about his mental health but doesn’t see an issue with talking about other peoples personal struggles to the world. Personally I always thought LS had more than purely platonic feelings for nemesis. I definitely remember some weird and awkward moments where LS was behaving like a jealous girlfriend with nemesis which is probably the awkward conversation they never had which LS refers to in this video.
His mom was born when LS's grandma was very underage. LS was born when his mom was also underage. I dunno more about his family history but this situation alone is a great recipe for disaster.
Not sure. I don't think they're THAT close but they've had talks. LS said doublelift really understands the things that bother LS since they're both in the same scene.
LS is a really smart dude but imo he has very hard times socializing and coming to understandings with people. almost everyone he meets he breaks off with eventually, and at that point you have to realize maybe its not everyone else who's the problem.
Dude I don’t believe a word that comes out of LS when he talks about this shit. He always talks about burned bridges by saying he was mentally unhealthy and that it was complicated. Major red flags
Do you not equate some of the “friendships “ as transactional because you are still semi a coach and people may think that living with you will give them knowledge to play better and what not but doesn’t that also mean that they should pay you for lessons. They also may come into it thinking in 1 year they’ll be a pro or on a semi pro team without ever realizing or understanding that you aren’t actually allowing them to live with you because of that but for them to work on themselves. A theory that’s all but sound like it has some merit of truth not for nemesis
Huge props to C9. They thought it would be better for them to work without LS and made a decision by removing LS and go with Max Waldo. Many thought C9 was done, including myself but now they are in final. CHAD 9
The only reason they got to finals and won is because of Berserker gigasmurfing LCS. The only reason Berserker went to NA is because of LS convincing Joe Marsh to send him with LS when they were originally going to send him to LPL. LS wanted to create a system where instead of relying on stomping the enemy with mechanics, you outsmart them. Because internationally NA does not have the hands to 1v1 international players. Berserker is by far the best adc in LCS this split. In T1 he was the 2nd sub… It’s not possible in a logical perspective for NA to win worlds with the current system and hence he wanted to change it.
@@theanonymouschicken169 but the systems in place. Winning NA is what matters. Who the hell wants to compete with the best teams for the most prestigious award in LOL Esports :)
here is the thing about LS image him as a dog if you see a dog that is barking why would anyone try to pet it? there's a higher chance of the dog biting you compare when the dog is calm. he needs to understand than and not bark all the time because only a few people if any will want to pet it.
Buddy we are talking about human being. Barking isn’t talking, people should be able to communicate and resolve conflict or come to understanding despite not having agreement of the outcome. The issue is people for many reasons, choose not to communicate at all or communicate in a way that does not aim to resolve conflict. I don’t agree with LS or you in terms of analogy. Most conflict comes from inability to communicate effectively from one party or both parties. I hope LS comes to this conclusion about his friendship as well as you
@@loopdahoop4910 dude did you read what I said? I'm comparing LS to a dog not every human being. LS is the type of person who you can't argue because its his way or the high way. in a way you are like him just look at your comment trying to sound smart trying to compare my analogy to every human being when I'm only talking about one individual. i hope this analyze help you better :)
@@riftwalk2546 thats the thing dude, every human being is human being. there is no comparison to an animal. you are assuming his personal communication habits without knowing someone, as well as myself. Yet again, even if what your assumption is true, it is up to the other side to respond to that communication to further help LS in realization of his inefficient communication method or they can just communicate back in toxic manner. What you see in LS can be right, however comparing him to animal while others are "normal" human is wrong. Most of the time, fall out or conflict comes from lack of ability to communicate in both or one party. Just like now, you failed to understand that you can argue with LS, you may not "win" but discussion is always available to you.
SO SAD PLEASE GET TO KNOW ISLAM
Lol
Nah bruh
What. How was this the advice you decided to give?
he is gay you dumbfuck, how do you think that works?
he is gay so, islam doesnt help in any way
My closest friend of 10 years randomly stopped talking to me about a month ago and it's been basically the worst thing ever. I don't even know why, we didn't even have a fight, he's not dead or in hospital. Just 10 years of friendship, talking nearly every day, hanging out at least once a week for that entire time and then... nothing.
That sucks. Have a friend I've known for 8 years and talk to everyday online and we didn't talk for a year cus she got mad at me calling her names during fights.
Reconnected after a little over a year of no contact.
a month isnt that long, theyll probably get back to you. unless they are actually ghosting u or are blatantly talking to other people and doesnt seem busy at all
I actually think LS did the right decision with c9, Nemesis as a friend should understand that it was his only opportunity to show his talent as a coach, literally a once in a lifetime opportunity. I get that he could feel abandoned in a foreign country when he didn't went to NA, but still, it was the chance to shut mouths and do what was needed. Too bad c9 decided that wasn't what they wanted and then this just ended with LS not only ending his relationship but also not coaching anymore.
C9 dodged a bullet, better players dont carry one style all split i think it was a good early start to a hopeful Na split 2 title and worlds contention.
@@hearthstoned8528 huh? c9 actually won games with LS.
@@hearthstoned8528 tf u type
@@rickkim2931 i wouldn't say win games since it was
1 the start of a split so it was a weird time
2 it was such a small sample size consisting of less than ten games
3 they continues to win after the removal of LS
however I am still salty that LS was removed since he did have a positive winrate% during the short stint but considering how hard he goes on "coaching" nemesis I doubt all players and even other orgmembers would appreciate his style of coaching.
I still feel a way about the c9 ls ordeal because all Max does is play standard till the need to pray to the church and then max uses ls tactics
i hope he and nemesis get along well in the future, ls feels really like losing a good friend
As someone who also struggles with mental health, I really appreciate how genuine and open LS is about his struggles
Thank you for uploading the humanizing clips of LS that average viewers may have missed cuz we gotta go to school and work n other stuff.
average LS viewers are jobless. Can confirm
hey...c'mon man...
That's sweet LS is saying good things about Nemesis regardless of them not being on talking terms.
Well clearly he does not seem as sweet behind the scenes. When drama always appear where you are around then maybe you are the one setting the fire. Not saying he is causing every drama he is in, but the amount of problems he has with people or public dramas is kinda because of how he acts. So he is less sweat than you think
im really sad about this, probably my fav duo in esports ever, i have the most channel points on ls's channel and second most on nemesises, and i have not watched them for over a year now. And like nemesis not saying anything about it just makes it worse, they were always so fun to watch when nemesis played and ls was just there "coaching" more like entertaining chat and making neme play katarina and shit like that. I can just hope that they will resolve this somehow, and maybe from time to time we get thoose streams/league talks again, cause ls genuenly seems like he regrets w/e happened.
This was good to hear about. I think it can help you as well as your viewers to talk somewhat openly about what's been going on. It seems like some of your relationships have been taxing / difficult for you. I can tell you're a very caring and passionate person. You're my favorite league creator. It seems like things are getting better for you and that makes me happy. Wish you the best ❤️
Just to be clear this is not LS channel. Links to his official channels are in the decsription.
damn... I really love this guy, makes me emotional seeing him this nostalgic and getting a lot of parallels with my own personal life... Friends can really suck at times, but i really miss the content he used to do w/ Nemesis
he's a lying snake my dude xd crocodile tears and inducing pity are just what he likes doing
The part when he says he was selfish to pursue the C9 journey, I think he was correct in trying, and he succeded with what little he did. Views were through the roof with LS on C9. Then Lol went to shit again. He shouldn't feel bad for trying I think.
Nemesis said he just needed time after LS asked him what it would take for Neme to forgive him.
Can you expand on that?
When did LS ask and when did Nemesis say that? (i assume on stream?).
@@EravohnRname they talked through discord after LS tried to settle the beef, and now we are just waiting for Neme to build up the willpower to forgive LS.
i know LS had said they talked on discord but didn't know nemesis said he just needed time.
When/where did he say that? Curious so i can see if the source is good. (And maybe if i can double check it) and then pin the comment
Hey?
He made it up (GIGACHAD)
I feel this so much
also sadly broke a friendship in a similar way and wish I could talk about it and mend it
Friends come and go. Memories and lessons last forever. If you've made mistakes in the past, just remember that they do not define who you are. If you've identified the mistakes, then you're already on the road to improving yourself. That's all anyone can ask of you. Keep your head up and keep pushing forward.
❤ LS
Expectation is the root of all heartache
It probably is, but how does one function without expectation? In fact, expectation is a hard-coded feature in humans.
For example, you always expect that the floor is gonna bear your weight. You always expect things to work as they should. If you didn't, your mind would explode. That's why uncertainty is a powerful tool for "mind control". Example: YT guidelines are vague by design, leading people to "walk on egg shells" while giving YT the ultimate power.
Humans aren't just pure objects, of course. That's why communication is a high prio in any form of relationship, no?
One must be ready to adjust and deal with the stress that comes from expectation in a healthy way that doesn't hurt others. Communication plays a big role here for underatanding to take place.
@@mranderson2048 I agree with the communication point, and I hate how difficult it actually is, LS was talking here like how there were misunderstandings and stuff with Nemesis and I'm just saying in my head "you should just talk" or "you should've just talked" and then I'm the same where I can't actually talk with others about stuff for some reason, so strange. Wonder why that is, it would fix so many problems people have and we don't do it
@@mranderson2048 you're completely right but also OP never mentioned something along the lines of "therefore we should never have expectations". I believe they were just simply making a statement.
Max Waldo is actually extremely chill and a very reasonable guy. I miss his stream, man.
not as great as a head coach as LS tho, I still cannot make up my mind about the success that C9 had with LS combined with the abrupt collapse of such a planned and methodically prepared team around him.
@@the-ghost-6669 The only difference between them is that how much compromise they are willing to make.
Yeah man i loved those streams like you could open it and listen to it while doing other stuff and also Max knows so fking much stuff about the game its insane
@@the-ghost-6669 honestly i think ls leaving c9 ended up being good for them because they got the roster they have now. i'd love to see ls coach the current c9 roster
@@mxthajsdpo5113 They have had the least Bo5 out of any team in playoffs which is worrying though. Alot of things that went unpunished vs EG could be a problem vs 100T.
Hoping for Fudge, Zven and Berserkers sake they win and perform at worlds both of them deserve it after all the effort. Jensen and Blaber is a little worrying going into finals
I hope him and nemesis work it out, they were an amazing duo
does Neme ever talk about LS on streams? such a sad situation
damn thats some real talk
honestly I understand where nemesis came from, LS mention some time ago how their fight boil down to LS calling nemesis a coward for not taking the chance to go to C9 and some more worst stuff. If I was nemesis, I wouldn't wanna reach out to LS at all cause not only did I take a risk by moving to korea with him, he also took the risk of refusing other EU offers probably under LS advice. Not to mention LS has plenty of people stating that living under LS roof is like peak stress, their former Academy junglers went over it in one of their streams (Malice) where LS basically threaten him to either do everything LS said or be homeless. LS probably doing a lot better now, but it honestly sound like LS is very likely to blow up at you over small things and threaten you, I really wouldn't want to keep that kind of company around.
malice wasnt paying rent or help contribute pay to their maid that cleans up a gamer house.
Glad to see that LS is trying to get better and seems to be in a better headspace.
he's the archsnake of this scene. There's nobody more downright malicious and fake than him. Even this video he makes it seem like he's the victim every time, when he was generally a pos and caused most of the drama thru his behavior
Ok Ls. Now i respect you
This has got to be a joke
somethings you cant fix, respect your friends, dont be selfish or you end up loosing them.
so genuine question ls speaks korean yes? how does therapy work in korea with a guy not from the country just speak in korean or do some therapist in korea also do it in english?
Just something i asked myself when watching ls
He isn't fluent. His main issue is grammar not vocabulary iirc.
He got a Korean therapist that studied and got their license in the US (so presumably they're fluent in English)
@@EravohnRname Aye k makes sense, just always wondered how foreigners use services in other countries who life like fulltime there like ls in korea, and therapy was such thing who i always asked myself how does it work there when he isnt fluent in korean.
But ty for answering homie
What talk with Doublelift is he talking about??
A talk (more than one iirc) they had off-stream. Relating to LS' mental health and streaming struggles.
@@EravohnRname Oh I thought he said they had a talk ON-stream.
Love LS, but I don't agree with him sharing private information about others (Onion, Neme, Wind) that should not be addressed publicly.
Honestly I think LS sounds like a piece of shit. Sings woe is me about his mental health but doesn’t see an issue with talking about other peoples personal struggles to the world. Personally I always thought LS had more than purely platonic feelings for nemesis. I definitely remember some weird and awkward moments where LS was behaving like a jealous girlfriend with nemesis which is probably the awkward conversation they never had which LS refers to in this video.
How does this guy have so many fights with people
His mom was born when LS's grandma was very underage.
LS was born when his mom was also underage.
I dunno more about his family history but this situation alone is a great recipe for disaster.
when u fighting every single friend it means ur the issue
you have to understand he had really fucked life growing up, it leaves some serious mental problems for the rest of your life
lol ls mom has nothing to do with anything, ls is just a bad person
I miss LS and sanch
I believe sanch was on the costream for some LCS game(s) and maybe wow stream (not sure) but you'd have to dig through LS vods.
when did he talk to DL?
He meant off-stream. He has had multi-hour talks with doublelift at least twice I believe.
@@EravohnRname are they close or something, didn't know
Not sure. I don't think they're THAT close but they've had talks. LS said doublelift really understands the things that bother LS since they're both in the same scene.
Can u uploaded talk with DL and link it into this video description ?
@@EravohnRname might have something to do with both of them escaping toxic home life and overcoming part trauma.
something is off about LS if u starting a fight with every single person u know it means u gotta fix urslf
LS is a really smart dude but imo he has very hard times socializing and coming to understandings with people. almost everyone he meets he breaks off with eventually, and at that point you have to realize maybe its not everyone else who's the problem.
he is crazy
yes, grave mental illness
Manchildren, I could not handle all this drama in real life. Live life ego free and it's much better for your mental health.
nice oversimplifying issues you know literally nothing about and discrediting struggles with mental health, you're dumb af
its a joke how everyone has always made so much progress recently when they talk about mental health
but were they on a Relationship ?
No..
Dude I don’t believe a word that comes out of LS when he talks about this shit. He always talks about burned bridges by saying he was mentally unhealthy and that it was complicated. Major red flags
what happened between ls and nemesis?
Do you not equate some of the “friendships “ as transactional because you are still semi a coach and people may think that living with you will give them knowledge to play better and what not but doesn’t that also mean that they should pay you for lessons. They also may come into it thinking in 1 year they’ll be a pro or on a semi pro team without ever realizing or understanding that you aren’t actually allowing them to live with you because of that but for them to work on themselves. A theory that’s all but sound like it has some merit of truth not for nemesis
Huge props to C9. They thought it would be better for them to work without LS and made a decision by removing LS and go with Max Waldo. Many thought C9 was done, including myself but now they are in final. CHAD 9
I mean he did make that roster they should be good with any coach
The only reason they got to finals and won is because of Berserker gigasmurfing LCS. The only reason Berserker went to NA is because of LS convincing Joe Marsh to send him with LS when they were originally going to send him to LPL.
LS wanted to create a system where instead of relying on stomping the enemy with mechanics, you outsmart them. Because internationally NA does not have the hands to 1v1 international players.
Berserker is by far the best adc in LCS this split. In T1 he was the 2nd sub…
It’s not possible in a logical perspective for NA to win worlds with the current system and hence he wanted to change it.
@@theanonymouschicken169 but the systems in place. Winning NA is what matters. Who the hell wants to compete with the best teams for the most prestigious award in LOL Esports :)
@@antysocial0 Not at all. He has summmit top, fudge mid and winsome support. 3/5 plus blaber was already there. So what the fuck are you saying ?
@@chocola4588 yea, but lets be truthful the real reason why c9 won was due to berserker. C9 had fudge and blaber last year but no real success.
smoge
Dude literally picks fights with everyone and wonders why his friendships don't last.
both have ego both should calm balls and get along cuz they did not look like a bad duo
Ah yes let your drama out to air in public while painting yourself as the victim nobody has done this before and regretted it
This really sucks
This sounds a bit entitled
yeah
Being super angry for 3 months sounds like being triggered for 3 months.
So he read only malice’s messages from their fight and is now playing the victim? All while being corny as hell
Just to clarify, he read both of their messages.
hes playing victim?
ls needs a gym lol
here is the thing about LS image him as a dog if you see a dog that is barking why would anyone try to pet it? there's a higher chance of the dog biting you compare when the dog is calm. he needs to understand than and not bark all the time because only a few people if any will want to pet it.
Buddy we are talking about human being. Barking isn’t talking, people should be able to communicate and resolve conflict or come to understanding despite not having agreement of the outcome. The issue is people for many reasons, choose not to communicate at all or communicate in a way that does not aim to resolve conflict.
I don’t agree with LS or you in terms of analogy. Most conflict comes from inability to communicate effectively from one party or both parties. I hope LS comes to this conclusion about his friendship as well as you
@@loopdahoop4910 dude did you read what I said? I'm comparing LS to a dog not every human being. LS is the type of person who you can't argue because its his way or the high way. in a way you are like him just look at your comment trying to sound smart trying to compare my analogy to every human being when I'm only talking about one individual. i hope this analyze help you better :)
@@riftwalk2546 thats the thing dude, every human being is human being. there is no comparison to an animal. you are assuming his personal communication habits without knowing someone, as well as myself. Yet again, even if what your assumption is true, it is up to the other side to respond to that communication to further help LS in realization of his inefficient communication method or they can just communicate back in toxic manner.
What you see in LS can be right, however comparing him to animal while others are "normal" human is wrong. Most of the time, fall out or conflict comes from lack of ability to communicate in both or one party. Just like now, you failed to understand that you can argue with LS, you may not "win" but discussion is always available to you.
@@riftwalk2546 yeah nah that dog analogy sucked ass
I think that was his point. That he can't expect everyone to want to pet the barking dog