@@HellsFury-fu3qk yes running around for less than a minute is tedious, it's only tedious if you're in a pub lobby and the randoms arent cooperating, other than that it adds a level of progression to the map imo
It’s a great idea on paper but not having the maps wonder weapon in the box really kills it. Ever since the beginning the box always had the strongest weapons in it. Removing the strongest weapons gets rid of your incentive to hit it unless you’re playing casually or doing a challenge. Plus not having the wonder weapon in the box means you can’t trade it out or pap to get more ammo
not having the wonder weapon in the box also means you aren't forced to hit it a bunch of times to get it in a reasonable round there can still be strong box exclusive weapons that aren't wonder weapons bo3 marks that down perfectly with the dingo, drakon, brecci, haymaker, marshals, peacekeeper, banshee, rift, etc while cold war and a bit of bo4 did nullify this, they had the perfect wonder weapon acquirement with optional quests that give a guaranteed drop or simple box luck
@@SmoothGorilla have you leveled them up? Most of the guns in bo4 feel a bit underwhelming at first but once you have all the attachments they're pretty good... Also keep pack a punching till it says 1500 for your next upgrade you get boosted damage for every pack that costs 2500
@@MaucyStudios I love the fact that every weapon has unique attachments and that makes the weapons a lot more unique (and stronger in certain situations). I also like bo1 weapons but they are weak because of the pack of say double tap, bandolier or double pap.
I don’t get why they stopped using the origins designs for the mystery box and pack a punch for the primis maps after DE. It would’ve fit much better imo
The box in origins does look amazing and has some cool weapons but its underused by the average player that knows the map, everyone just digs up a gun gets to the centre buys mp40 cuz its in a good spot and is a good point racker get 115 headshots and hope for a good pack gun from rewards, i honestly never hit the box in origins... I saw defend the house playing the map and they also complained that it is watered down with bad weapons and i kind of agree if you dont know the map a usable gun is the difference between life and death
Solid video, though I did know about this, just wish it carried on to being packed as well On another point, I've always hated map specific perks, but I do like map specific weapons and map specific perma perks. Those always were fun even if I didn't like the map With all this though, I still love weapon quests, just love a fun little adventure in my games, which sadly is what BO1 was missing. Ps, believe it or not, I agree with your cold war take on the loadout system, though it's more nuanced for me.
Unlike the other maps with buildable Wonder Weapons I always find myself hitting the box on this map because the SCAR-H just feels so damn satisfying to use. I'd argue they fixed the problem after Der Eisendrache by adding brilliant box guns like the Marshall-16s and PPSH. Revelations had a bunch of really cool DLC weapons, but that was at the expense of it also having two of the most OP Wonder Weapons in there as well as the DG-2 which ruined the balance.
The PP isn’t even “that” good in BO3, at least I should say it felt way better to use in WaW and the fact you can’t double PaP in BO3 just makes it objectively worse than any other weapon that can
Me! I'm one of the few who like the more simple maps. I love some maps that are a bit complex, I was really put off by most of the BO3 DLCs until chronicles lol. And I agree with the weapon selection and variations they did in origins. While BO4 is not my favorite I do enjoy the box weapon selection in that game too
One question man What is your favorite set of 4 ww Origins staves Der bows The frozen dawn melee weapons The final reich Tesla guns Ancient evil gauntlets Alpha Omega rayguns Cold war d.i.e.s Zombies in spaceland rayguns Rave crossbows Exctiction venom xs
@@CJSanta nice me personally I am a fan of the final reich Tesla's and frozen dawn melees Now what is your favorite survival maps(maps that don't have any EE's and the only objective is high rounds) Natch Verruckt Shi no Numa Der riese Kino Five Town Bus depot Farm Nuketown zombies (The BO3 versions of the above waw and BO1 maps) Classified(I know it has an EE but c'mon) Onslaught Groesten house Bodega Cervantes Ss mount Olympus Altar of blood
Don't remember weather or not the ak74u and it's extended mag carried over when Packed, same for the MP40 and stock and the B23r extended mag, anyone know if it did?
I think the sheer amount of exclusive weapons that are in the box and are good does. Plus the collapsible stock attachments as well which gives you faster movement when aiming in the mud.
"It's the Wunderfizz for weapons"
STOP😭
EXACTLY! I can’t believe they just stole it 🙄 lazy ass developers
I can never forgive origins for making the box require the power to be on in order to hit it.
That was kinda goofy
Why does it matter so much
@@gman2506 makes the box tedious
@@HellsFury-fu3qk yes running around for less than a minute is tedious, it's only tedious if you're in a pub lobby and the randoms arent cooperating, other than that it adds a level of progression to the map imo
@@triplecripple17
It becomes extra tedious with the templar rounds.
On principle, the box should never require the power to be on.
People who like the Origins box tend to be the type of people who enjoy the box on Origins.
Indeed. Couldn't have said it any better.
It’s a great idea on paper but not having the maps wonder weapon in the box really kills it. Ever since the beginning the box always had the strongest weapons in it. Removing the strongest weapons gets rid of your incentive to hit it unless you’re playing casually or doing a challenge. Plus not having the wonder weapon in the box means you can’t trade it out or pap to get more ammo
not having the wonder weapon in the box also means you aren't forced to hit it a bunch of times to get it in a reasonable round
there can still be strong box exclusive weapons that aren't wonder weapons
bo3 marks that down perfectly with the dingo, drakon, brecci, haymaker, marshals, peacekeeper, banshee, rift, etc
while cold war and a bit of bo4 did nullify this, they had the perfect wonder weapon acquirement with optional quests that give a guaranteed drop or simple box luck
My only complaint about the box in origins is it doesn’t have the AN 94. Like that weapon is the goat in black ops 2
It’s got great sound effects too.
Nah the an-94 shouldn’t be on origins the map has good weapon balance.
They already added the SCAR and MG08, I don't think an AN-94 needs to be added to the mix
@@MichaelDoesStuff- sorry, any excuse not having this epic weapon is futile
Nail on the head at the end there content diversity between maps is one of the fundamental pillars of building a great catalog of zombie maps
Didn't know about the different attachments on the Origins box even though I've been playing since WaW.
Great video, and informative too!
The Origins box is my favorite looking box in Zombies
3:43 Nice transition
Also this editing seems reminiscent of TheSmithPlays and the retrospective videos he made
I just like to edit my videos in a way where everything I'm saying has the matching appropriate visual 🙂
Bo2 has (together with bo4) my favorite weapon roster of any game
Huh, I admit it's interesting to see someone love the BO4 weapon selection.
I love BO1's selection, even if the ammo capacity was unbalanced.
All the guns in bo4 feel weak to me what am i doing wrong?
@@SmoothGorilla have you leveled them up? Most of the guns in bo4 feel a bit underwhelming at first but once you have all the attachments they're pretty good... Also keep pack a punching till it says 1500 for your next upgrade you get boosted damage for every pack that costs 2500
@@MaucyStudios I love the fact that every weapon has unique attachments and that makes the weapons a lot more unique (and stronger in certain situations). I also like bo1 weapons but they are weak because of the pack of say double tap, bandolier or double pap.
I'm again the like 115, wtff... Liked always before starting the video, CJ Santa doesn't ever disappoint!
Yes its me i dont like over complicated maps, i love seeing how cool the guns are
Still will be extremely salty that the M27 is only on nuketown
The Tommygun was in Mob of the Dead as well.
Origins also has my favorite gun The MG08/15.
I don’t get why they stopped using the origins designs for the mystery box and pack a punch for the primis maps after DE. It would’ve fit much better imo
The box in origins does look amazing and has some cool weapons but its underused by the average player that knows the map, everyone just digs up a gun gets to the centre buys mp40 cuz its in a good spot and is a good point racker get 115 headshots and hope for a good pack gun from rewards, i honestly never hit the box in origins... I saw defend the house playing the map and they also complained that it is watered down with bad weapons and i kind of agree if you dont know the map a usable gun is the difference between life and death
Solid video, though I did know about this, just wish it carried on to being packed as well
On another point, I've always hated map specific perks, but I do like map specific weapons and map specific perma perks. Those always were fun even if I didn't like the map
With all this though, I still love weapon quests, just love a fun little adventure in my games, which sadly is what BO1 was missing.
Ps, believe it or not, I agree with your cold war take on the loadout system, though it's more nuanced for me.
Unlike the other maps with buildable Wonder Weapons I always find myself hitting the box on this map because the SCAR-H just feels so damn satisfying to use. I'd argue they fixed the problem after Der Eisendrache by adding brilliant box guns like the Marshall-16s and PPSH. Revelations had a bunch of really cool DLC weapons, but that was at the expense of it also having two of the most OP Wonder Weapons in there as well as the DG-2 which ruined the balance.
DE doesn't have the pp or the marshals. Zetsubou has the marshals and only gorod and Chronicles has the pp.
The PP isn’t even “that” good in BO3, at least I should say it felt way better to use in WaW and the fact you can’t double PaP in BO3 just makes it objectively worse than any other weapon that can
Love your channel. I wish you made more and longer videos
It all depends on how much free time I have from work, believe me if I could I'd make 10+ minute videos every week 😃
Best box from the best map.
This is why the Chronicles version isn’t so good despite being gorgeous.
Top 3 zombie maps
3. Zetsubou no shima
2. Origins
1. Blood of the dead
Interesting list 👀
@@CJSanta I’m a big Easter egg guy who likes difficulty, ZNS is there strictly for the amount of content and the map design
@gjte2947 Zns is my 3rd favorite map of all time personally 😁
Was playing Blood yesterday, hopped on for a good 55 rounds. Did all the side quests too
@@gjte2947i did the origins easter egg a week ago and i loved every second of it
"Mob of the dead is just a smaller blood of the dead"
This is how you know zombies content is truly dead in the water. (No disrespect)
Zombies will never "be dead" so long as there's 4 people to spawn into a match, someone making a video and someone watching. 💪
Me! I'm one of the few who like the more simple maps. I love some maps that are a bit complex, I was really put off by most of the BO3 DLCs until chronicles lol. And I agree with the weapon selection and variations they did in origins. While BO4 is not my favorite I do enjoy the box weapon selection in that game too
Xomgitsbunnie has a pretty special box to lol
I still think the gorod krovi box is the best one cuz it has the mk3, ppsh, the shadowclaw and the ffar.
Another good box
Great video and opinion CJ.
One question man
What is your favorite set of 4 ww
Origins staves
Der bows
The frozen dawn melee weapons
The final reich Tesla guns
Ancient evil gauntlets
Alpha Omega rayguns
Cold war d.i.e.s
Zombies in spaceland rayguns
Rave crossbows
Exctiction venom xs
That's tough, but I'll say the Ancient Evil Gauntlets 👍
@@CJSanta nice me personally I am a fan of the final reich Tesla's and frozen dawn melees
Now what is your favorite survival maps(maps that don't have any EE's and the only objective is high rounds)
Natch
Verruckt
Shi no Numa
Der riese
Kino
Five
Town
Bus depot
Farm
Nuketown zombies
(The BO3 versions of the above waw and BO1 maps)
Classified(I know it has an EE but c'mon)
Onslaught
Groesten house
Bodega Cervantes
Ss mount Olympus
Altar of blood
@ghosmix8785 I don't know if I'd count classified, if yes then that.
It not then probably Bodega Cervantes or Grosten haus
@@CJSanta have you seen 1 month ago they found a new EE on bodega Cervantes and SS mount Olympus?
It could be a good video idea
Hey man if it fits your schedule can you make a video about your opinions on all ww2 maps?@@CJSanta
Don't remember weather or not the ak74u and it's extended mag carried over when Packed, same for the MP40 and stock and the B23r extended mag, anyone know if it did?
Zetsubo, gorod and revelations have the best boxes
Those are good too
Now we gotta know ur thoughts on the new black ops game coming out?
I'll let you know when I see the trailer 👀
@@CJSanta hell ya!!!
I never hit the box on origins
I don't agree. Getting 10 more ammo or better aim down sight on guns doesn't matter to 95%+ of players
I think the sheer amount of exclusive weapons that are in the box and are good does. Plus the collapsible stock attachments as well which gives you faster movement when aiming in the mud.
Shadows box is better no capp😂
It has nothing but default weapons and the bootlegger.
@@CJSanta yea I know lol...but it looks so bad ass