Because he sang so long after his prime people forget how great Ghiaurov was. His resonance was so profound it was as if the sound were coming out of the walls rather than him.
Mistake or not. This is flawless singing. He has beautiful line, diction. He was a poet.There is not any tenor out there today that touch him. I am including Domingo as well. Pavarotti was a natural tenor. Listen to how he shades the voice with such beautiful colors. I will take him any day of the week.
For sure, Pavarotti in his prime could hold a true pure note better than anyone. He also had great expression. and His physique was a great benefit in projecting his voice without apparent effort. As someone once said 'you can't fire cannons from canoes!. As for Ghiaurov - the best bass ever. Giulini's 1964 recording with Elizabeth Schwarzkopf, Christa Ludwig and Nicolai Ghedda is my absolute favourite. The Lacramosa {Ludwig especially) is sublime.
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If one has been aware of a singer for the WHOLE of his career, it is easy to forget how that singer sounded forty years ago, and it was pure, simple, and divine. so few of the mannerisms we came to expect, so clean and FEARLESS!
Pavarotti looked better with a beard, that's for sure. He had a perfect pitch (I read someone' s in argument about that) and this was something incredible to listen! Bravi!
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I listen to this beautiful singing and it is for all the international singers who joined Luciano this summer -a sad one for opera lovers all over the world.
When Pav said he couldn't read music, I wonder if he meant sight reading? He sang in a men's chorus with his Dad before he was a soloist. I find it so hard to believe he couldn't recognize the note A to play it on the piano.
The subito piano on the first repetition of "dextra" is magical. After the power of "statuens in parte," the control he shows with that little melodic ornament is just hair-raisingly stunning...also, look at the control in his face from 2.30-2.40 (ish) - just stunning!
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Love Pavarotti's use of head voice, sounds so sensitive. The director of this video must have thought much of the the conductor who is barely pictured.
And how do you think he knew it was a F scale without seeing the piano keys? A wild guess turned out to be lucky? No. He had the perfect pitch, that's why he recognized the tone. And by the way - he asked if he had made and open F or covered, because he knew it was open, but he checked if everybody else noticed. So who's crawling back to his rock now? Not me and certainly not Inquisitive.
Oh! I recall the great noise Ghiarhov created - a lot of talk of him in the 70s and 80s. A time of much attention with the plenty of voices standing alone such as him. Those were times of such rich appreciation. Sure there was a fan bass for each, however, who would not contract him first on the bill? Many a house was booked in contract commitment five years away from a present day. Even Caballe expressed not knowing where next year she was as she knew she was in a 5 year commitment throughout houses internationally. Oh yes, I know many who esteemed him Thank you!
I hesitate to intrude on the private grief of the duologue about perfect pitch, but may I simply return to the video? Pavarotti looks quite nervous at the beginning so the early entry at 2.14 is perhaps not surprising, but how marvellous to hear the delicacy of his performance, such beautiful variation in shading and colour, perhaps not so prevalent in his later work. And, of course, the inimitable Ghiaurov. Does anyone know who were the women soloists in this performance?
Does anyone know where this was recorded? I'm guessing an Italian (possibly Tuscan?) church/cathedral, as I spotted the Medici coat of arms about half way through.
corn - umm... maybe you could watch my latest Pav video, somewhere in the middle there's an interview with him about his pitch. You could also read his biography and some other articles about him.. maybe then you'll understand at least a little something about what we're having this argument.
cornificius - and how do you think he knew it was a F scale without seeing the piano keys? A wild guess turned out to be lucky? No. He had the perfect pitch, that's why he recognized the tone. And by the way - he asked if he had made and open F or covered, because he knew it was open, but he checked if everybody else noticed. So who's crawling back to his rock now? Not me and certainly not Inquisitive.
NO, this is a performance held in Roma,bsilica di Santa Maria sopra Minerva, in 1970, Claudio Abbado conducts, Scotto, Horne, Pavarotti, Ghiaurov sing...
No Pavarotti did not read music and Maestro Bonyne knew this well. Most of all his collegues knew. Rehearsals established his music preparation. Pavarotti followed the score within a measure. As for progressions - minor/major etc., he was genius to track by his interior memory and ear. I guess, we can say in some ways as Beethoven composed death because he was hearing from his interior memory. Pretty stunning. 🌹👏
tobin...ywan, I watched your video. Pava says in the middle he realised that a harp was flat. Perfect pitch is not necessary to detect flat notes, and a person with relative pitch can have an extremely sensitive ear. Enough.
@@RositsaPetrovarjp7 This is right. He married Mirella Freni much later - 1978 or 1981. But the lived together before the actual marriage because neither was divorced. They lived together 29 years.
Yet you haven't produced any valid criticism of my views. You have just misinterpreted a video where Pavarotti clearly shows he has no perfect pitch (since he asks whether a certain chord has just been played on the piano or not). Admit it: you are simply wrong.
You seem to have a problem with your listening (&reading) comprehension. Once again: he did not know it was F. That is why he asks: did I touch the F? Consider the analogous situation: someone listen and asks: Mr. Pavarotti, have you sung the F? That means: did you reach the F or not? Ony a person with relative pitch can ask this.
Ghiaruv was so very handsome ... and singing like god. The two of them are a match made in heaven
I still say the definitive Verdi Requiem is with Price, Cossotto, Pavarotti, and Ghiaurov!!
What about the Toscanini one?
The greatest tenor and bass together!!
Because he sang so long after his prime people forget how great Ghiaurov was. His resonance was so profound it was as if the sound were coming out of the walls rather than him.
Nobody competes with Ghiaurov. He was a living miracle.
Mistake or not. This is flawless singing. He has beautiful line, diction. He was a poet.There is not any tenor out there today that touch him. I am including Domingo as well. Pavarotti was a natural tenor. Listen to how he shades the voice with such beautiful colors. I will take him any day of the week.
Domingo wasn't half the singer Pavarotti was
Horne..very beautiful version Ghiaurov is royal and wonderful..thank you!!
I do not think Pavarotti's voice has ever sounded more beautiful. Thank you so much for posting this!
Maestro Pavarotti at his beginning. Bravo.
For sure, Pavarotti in his prime could hold a true pure note better than anyone. He also had great expression. and His physique was a great benefit in projecting his voice without apparent effort. As someone once said 'you can't fire cannons from canoes!.
As for Ghiaurov - the best bass ever. Giulini's 1964 recording with Elizabeth Schwarzkopf, Christa Ludwig and Nicolai Ghedda is my absolute favourite. The Lacramosa {Ludwig especially) is sublime.
operabeauty, HUGE THANK YOU FOR THE WONDERFUL VIDEO - WONDERFUL FOR ALL BULGARIAN, FOR ALL ITALIAN, FOR ALL WORLD !!! NICOLAI GHIAUROV - DIVINE BULGARIAN VOICE AND LUCIANO PAVAROTTI - DIVINE ITALIAN VOICE - THEY ARE EPOCH IN THE WORLD OPERA !!! THEY ARE INFORGETTABLE !!! ALWAYS WITH A LOT OF LOVE AND LIGHT Your eternal fan FROM SOFIA - BULGARIA
undoubtful one of the if not the best performance of Ingemisco I ever heard!
After Björling, obviously!
magnificent, brilliant singers!
Fantastic singing by both !
Un italiano non c'è eccomi! Che voci meravigliose ,precise che non ne sbagliano una .
He makes it sound so easy. What a talent he was. :)
La perfection, tout simplement la perfection!
Divine voices!!
Bravi Maestri, wherever you are...
Николай Гяуров просто божественнен!!! Брутальность его внешности и голоса на максимале!!!! Поваротти тоже прекрасен!
If one has been aware of a singer for the WHOLE of his career, it is easy to forget how that singer sounded forty years ago, and it was pure, simple, and divine. so few of the mannerisms we came to expect, so clean and FEARLESS!
Pavarotti looked better with a beard, that's for sure. He had a perfect pitch (I read someone' s in argument about that) and this was something incredible to listen! Bravi!
And he did not read music...
PURE MAGIC !!!! RIP
this is breathtaking
This was not 1967. This was 10/10/1970 nella Basilica di Santa Maria, Roma.
Nicolai Ghiaurov ???!!! FANTASTIC Bulgarian VOICE !!! Dear Nicolai, GOD BLESS Your beautiful soul !!! ALL WE - ALL Bulgarians love You very, very, very much !!! EVERYDAY ALL WE LISTEN Your INCREDIBLE BEAUTIFUL Bulgarian voice !!! Always with a lot of love and light Your eternal fans Nadya Mirkova and all my big family, all my friends, ALL BULGARIA, ALL Bulgarians in ALL WORLD !!!
È vero, tutte e due sono magnifici, immortali!
I listen to this beautiful singing and it is for all the international singers who joined Luciano this summer -a sad one for opera lovers all over the world.
exceptionnel merci beaucoup
1970. Direttore Abbado Roma
Sensational. Off the charts. BRAVI
hermoso
When Pav said he couldn't read music, I wonder if he meant sight reading? He sang in a men's chorus with his Dad before he was a soloist. I find it so hard to believe he couldn't recognize the note A to play it on the piano.
Thanks, Mooorhe, for that information. What a quartet ! I just wish I could have been there.
The subito piano on the first repetition of "dextra" is magical. After the power of "statuens in parte," the control he shows with that little melodic ornament is just hair-raisingly stunning...also, look at the control in his face from 2.30-2.40 (ish) - just stunning!
Il più grande
Incredible - made me cry!
Abbado!!!
Abbiamo perso due GRANDISSIMI!!!!
splendide
Bravi!
ENDLESS THANKS and ENDLESS BRAVO FOR RUclips BG / Bulgaria / FOR THE FANTASTIC MIX !!! Always with a lot of love and light Nadya Mirkova and friends, and all my big family from Bulgaria
Bravissimo
Roger that, thanks! Man, she was good.
Love Pavarotti's use of head voice, sounds so sensitive. The director of this video must have thought much of the the conductor who is barely pictured.
At their best for sure. For me only two Ingemiscos worth talking about. Pavarotti and Bjorling.
caruso was great even on the old type recording. what a sound !
Truth. He is a tenor that best represents the bel canto tradition.
Siepi ain't too bad either ;)
Вот так надо петь, ёпта!!!
UNIQUE
Renata Scotto and Marilyn Horne were the female artists in this artistic triumph.
Merveilleux tous les deux mais j'ai une préférence pour Pavarotti !
Dommage que la vidéo s'arrête si vite !
@animumaurarium it's not the orchestra but the signal from the TV that transmits the programme
yes a little bit...very good! good ear
que jugador por favooor
And how do you think he knew it was a F scale without seeing the piano keys? A wild guess turned out to be lucky? No. He had the perfect pitch, that's why he recognized the tone. And by the way - he asked if he had made and open F or covered, because he knew it was open, but he checked if everybody else noticed. So who's crawling back to his rock now? Not me and certainly not Inquisitive.
we were born in 67.
Pavarotti was a class act, brilliant, but basses like Ghiaurov don't get enough credit, always overshadowed by tenors, it's quite sad.
Oh! I recall the great noise Ghiarhov created - a lot of talk of him in the 70s and 80s. A time of much attention with the plenty of voices standing alone such as him. Those were times of such rich appreciation. Sure there was a fan bass for each, however, who would not contract him first on the bill? Many a house was booked in contract commitment five years away from a present day. Even Caballe expressed not knowing where next year she was as she knew she was in a 5 year commitment throughout houses internationally. Oh yes, I know many who esteemed him Thank you!
interover раньше вступил Паваротти А вообще выссший класс
@Catholicsmoker esattamente.
I hesitate to intrude on the private grief of the duologue about perfect pitch, but may I simply return to the video? Pavarotti looks quite nervous at the beginning so the early entry at 2.14 is perhaps not surprising, but how marvellous to hear the delicacy of his performance, such beautiful variation in shading and colour, perhaps not so prevalent in his later work. And, of course, the inimitable Ghiaurov. Does anyone know who were the women soloists in this performance?
NOOO!!! How can it stop just before the Dies Irae section?!
Does anyone know where this was recorded?
I'm guessing an Italian (possibly Tuscan?) church/cathedral, as I spotted the Medici coat of arms about half way through.
Roma, 1970
Does he come in at 2:14 by mistake?
Great performance nonetheless!
who would be filming the ceilling of the church instead of shooting the singers?
I think the conductor is Karajan. Isn't the comercial video from La Scala.
Pavarotti got a mistake at 02:13
It seems that he had miscalculated the resting and came out half a measure earlier.
Pavarotti did not have a particularly strong lower register. However he had terrific high notes so more than compensated! :D
corn - umm... maybe you could watch my latest Pav video, somewhere in the middle there's an interview with him about his pitch. You could also read his biography and some other articles about him.. maybe then you'll understand at least a little something about what we're having this argument.
cornificius - and how do you think he knew it was a F scale without seeing the piano keys? A wild guess turned out to be lucky? No. He had the perfect pitch, that's why he recognized the tone. And by the way - he asked if he had made and open F or covered, because he knew it was open, but he checked if everybody else noticed. So who's crawling back to his rock now? Not me and certainly not Inquisitive.
I'm not a voice teacher. I'm not a doctor, either, but I know when I'm talking to a quack...
Pavarotti se adelantó un compás. "ii..... inter oves".
Thsnk you. Is Abbado the conductor?
Thus "you are trying to 'prove' things that have already been refuted", if I may add this kind of redundant comment of which you are so fond.
opinons, opinions, opinions!!!!
No, the soprano is Leontyne Price, mezzo is Fiorenza Cossotto.
NO, this is a performance held in Roma,bsilica di Santa Maria sopra Minerva, in 1970, Claudio Abbado conducts, Scotto, Horne, Pavarotti, Ghiaurov sing...
同じ1967年10月にショルティによるヴェルディ・レクイエムがつくられている。良く比べて聞いたが、パバロッティにしてもバスのタルヴェラにしても結論はショルティ盤だ。ただ、この盤の演奏は、このユーチュブではなぜか削除されている。残念の極み。ぜひ、CDで聞いてみていただきたい。後者の歌には、なぜか、感動がある。
wow i could barely hear that! :)
can any one hear that the "i" from inter ovis was sung bery softly by pavarotti a compas early ?
What was that @ 2:13?!
Pavarotti lost the bloom on his voice rather early, probably because of taking on heavier roles. Hes sublime here
Probably because of age. The prime only lasts for a couple years.
esta metiendo un ki, tramposillo
Renata Scotto is the soprano and I can't remember who the mezzo-soprano was...
quack.. quack.. quack.. quack.. quack...
Pavarotti alors qu'il avait la voix du bon Dieu !
Well, he didn't read the orchestra score, but he read his parts. He definitely knew how to read music, it's a myth, that he didn't.
No Pavarotti did not read music and Maestro Bonyne knew this well. Most of all his collegues knew. Rehearsals established his music preparation. Pavarotti followed the score within a measure. As for progressions - minor/major etc., he was genius to track by his interior memory and ear. I guess, we can say in some ways as Beethoven composed death because he was hearing from his interior memory. Pretty stunning. 🌹👏
@@emitch9213 Beethoven composed deaf, not death or dead.
@peterpan0018 listen to Talvela singing this
@Catholicsmoker Quite true...Also the word nihil=neekeel.
@ bodiloto: ma hai mai ascoltato Pavarotti dal vivo? Da quello che scrivi non credo proprio....
tobin...ywan, I watched your video. Pava says in the middle he realised that a harp was flat. Perfect pitch is not necessary to detect flat notes, and a person with relative pitch can have an extremely sensitive ear. Enough.
@aletibet the mistake began at 0:07, just kidding
Where?
2:13 Oops?
Just a real subtle mezzo voce.
Ghiaurov was to be married to Mirella Freni, Pavarotti's long time friend and fellow Modenese.
he was married at the time already to a wonderful pianist
@@RositsaPetrovarjp7 This is right. He married Mirella Freni much later - 1978 or 1981. But the lived together before the actual marriage because neither was divorced. They lived together 29 years.
Yet you haven't produced any valid criticism of my views. You have just misinterpreted a video where Pavarotti clearly shows he has no perfect pitch (since he asks whether a certain chord has just been played on the piano or not). Admit it: you are simply wrong.
1:37 What the heck is the orchestra doing?
@DesignerFreak i was so disappointed
miHi quoque.
Glorious tone from Pav., but even this early and with the score he makes musical mistakes - early, late, and tentative entrances.
UTÁNOZHATATLAN!!!!!!!!!!!!
You seem to have a problem with your listening (&reading) comprehension. Once again: he did not know it was F. That is why he asks: did I touch the F?
Consider the analogous situation: someone listen and asks: Mr. Pavarotti, have you sung the F? That means: did you reach the F or not? Ony a person with relative pitch can ask this.