Every weight cut should follow ONE's rules. They are the most comprehensive and that's why their events are the best. All of their fighters feel great going in which means there's no tragic fights; bangers ONLY.
Yet there are guys who is way bigger than others in some divisions. I like their method but I have some doubts about do they treat every fighter in same way in that process
The description of the hot bath made dizzy, like the footage of Cris Cyborg's infamous weight cut in the hot bath crying.. I'll take the treadmill every time.
@@GabrielVargaOfficial why does it seem to weight cuts are so hard for UFC fighters and other disciplines but not for boxers ? Khabib got really sick, Darren till got really sick. TJ Dillashaw look like he was a victim of the Holocaust. Some of these guys look terrible after cuts. I don't really understand why they have to cut weight. Why can't they just move up in weight and just fight at their natural weight ? I hope this question isn't stupid. Because I really don't understand it and I would like to
@@matthew-jy5jp Good question. It's quite simply because weight advantages matter a lot more in MMA. In boxing extra size means a bit more striking power. But in MMA extra size for wrestling and jiu-jitsu is a major advantage. I walk at 155lbs and cut to 145lbs. There are so many guys in my weight class who cut from 170lbs. Some even from 180lbs. In kickboxing doesn't matter to me. But in MMA it's much harder to compete with those guys who rehydrate to 170+
What weight cutting symptoms have you guys had? The one I mentioned in the video was soooo weird. Fortunately it hasn't reoccured recently. I'm a big fan of ONE's weight cutting policy.
I was fighting in one warrior series (rich Franklin's) before. Their weigh in test comes with a hydration test. Unfortunately I failed once from this especially the hydration test.
Worst time for me was 4 years ago when I was 16. Went to Paris for the Paris Open (taekwondo) and to make the weight I lost about 7kg(about 16lbs) and after making weight and eating/drinking I felt extremely sick, I have to say I cut weight terribly, used to just starve myself and train with layers on of even the sauna suit. I guess you don’t realise how crazy it seems till you look back on it 😂
After I made weight ... I eat everything I wish. Then I get diaria... For some reason my fight was deley for next day (it was national championship with many people and categories). So I managed to recover.
Not a story of mine but one of a taekwondo fighter at either the youth world champs or youth Olympics. Usually with making weight you are allowed to go over the limit by a little bit so the allowed amount was 0.1kg more. This one girl was dieting like crazy for weeks leading up to the weigh in. She came in 0.2kg over the limit, she struggled to lose that extra amount so she was 0.1kg over the 0.1kg limit. After all that training she and dieting, she wasn't allowed to compete.
Ones weight cutting policy seems suspicious to me. At least it looks their hydration test doesn't apply for every fighter. There are some guys who are way bigger than others
Interesting how he mentioned his glands got swollen during the weight cut. I did a 10 day water fast where my glands were feeling weird at the end. Whenever I would eat any type of food, both sides of my jaw would tingle like I was eating sour candy. I havent seen anybody else mention this. The lymph system if complex and apparently your body uses it for draining waste.
I walk around between 230-250. Lately, I have been around 226-230. I have to experience which weight class will be best for me in M.M.A. Heavyweight or Light Heavyweight. If it's heavyweight, I can put on more muscle and maybe take protein powder to bulk up a bit. However, if I can comfortably make 205, then I could try that route as well. It's not worth it for me to even try to make 185. Don't kill yourself to try to get an edge. Have confidence that you can beat somebody at the same weight as yourself. Thanks for all the advice. I've been training from home, so it's amazing to have somebody with your credentials and kind attitude walk me through this new world that I have immersed myself in. ✌️
the baths are crazy, this is how we cut weight for my fights, remember guys always have someone with you while cutting, keep the temp between 106-110, keep some cold wet rags near so you can lay them on your head and chest if you start to over heat or feel like you can’t stay in any longer.
Easiest way to cut weight is to prolonged fast with salt water. Just fasted 6 days w just water and salt water. Lost 13 pounds of fat. Would you rather cut fast or slow??
The bath doesn't need to be scolding hot, apparently a bit above your core body temp is enough to induce sweating. But obviously the hotter it is the faster the sweats come on.
That's interesting, I used the hot bath most of my pro career. I guess it's just like cold temperatures, you have to get your body used to it regularly. I could easily loose a bit over 2kg in less than an hour without feeling bad. In my amateur career, I used a jump rope once,never again as I ended up fighting with a calf cramp 😄
Knowledge from a great fighter! Thanks so much for posting this. It just once again shows what works for me isn't the only way to go. You thrived with the hot bath. I thrived cutting weight with a workout. 2 champs with different methods 🙏 And they both work.
So glad you ended up okay Gab. 😊 it seems to me like the weight cut is more dangerous than the fighting. But then again that's just from someone who is viewing it from the outside of the sport
Thanks for sharing this experience. If you would cut more weight, let's say 10 pounds, How would you do it. I already cut 6 or 7 pounds and it was pretty okay without food and water for 20 hours and a bit of running.
Nobody great ever did it by the book. You gotta find out what works for you. BTW if you get in a steam room, hot tub etc you gotta cool down the body. You're killing cells but need to stimulate a proper growing environment during recovery. Sleep is just as important for proper weight control.
It's almost surprising how I don't know many cases of fighters passing away from fighting, and rather from cutting weight, probably my biggest fear as an aspiring fighter right beside stage fright. Unrelated to the topic, but can you link the music you use in your description ?
My worst cut was my own fault. I didn't manage my diet and exercise leading up to the event. A even had time to change my weight class, but chose not to. Did a hot bath the night before, then immediately to bed. Woke up on weight. Sounds good right? Did I forget to mention this was for a grappling tournament with same day weigh-ins? Yeah, so I go to the venue, hit the scales, THEN take in my first food and water in 24 hrs (with only 3 hrs until my first of 6 matches). Needless to say, I didn't even come close to recovering enough to be of any use on the mats. Weak, nauseous, total brain fog, etc. Bad day, never again.
This is why I usually walk around at no more than 190 lbs, so I only have to cut 4 lbs to make weight for a fight (I fight at middleweight 185 lbs) so I don't have to put myself through these painful shenanigans, it is not worth it. I do some extra cardio, shadow boxing, sparring or a couple miles run with a hoodie or a sweat suit, eat healthy and I'm fine
@@GabrielVargaOfficial Nah, I have the luck of possessing a quite thick and bulky physique, so size is not an issue for me, I'm quite big, stocky. Maybe height is a little bit, 'cause I'm only 5'8, not very tall for a middleweight, so more often than not my opponents are taller than me. But at 186 lbs I am at 10% body fat, and feel good. Lean, fast, powerful and explosive. Personally I would never go sub 10% body fat, not sustainable for me. I walk around at 12-13%, then I cut down to 10-11% during fight camp.
hey so mr varga i went to Combat sport Wikipedia and looked at Common combat sports include boxing (including many styles of kickboxing), wrestling (including Sumo wrestling), fencing, modern-era mixed martial arts (MMA), as well as many varieties of indigenous martial arts, such as judo (Japanese), savate (French), Muay Thai (Thai), Lethwei (Burmese), Sanda (Chinese), Tae Kwon Do (Korean), Capoeira (Afro-Brazilian), Brazilian jiu-jitsu (Brazilian), Sambo (Soviet), and Kyokushin (Japanese-Korean). and i have chosen 5 striking sports 1 hybrid sport sanda,kyokushin karate,taekwondo itf,muay thai,savate,combat sambo these are the best combat sport martial art fighting styles of all time some are in houston others in america good right i will make money form does sports as a martial artist
I guess the only difference is my walk around body fat percentage is 6-7. Those guys have cut some body fat and have a lot more muscle to trim down on. I'm already a pretty lean guy.
@@GabrielVargaOfficial I've heard some crazy weight cutting stories from Greco-Roman wrestlers. One of them was an Olympic medalist, with a training/walkaround weight of ~85 kg (six pack and all) and he wrestled in the 67kg-category... They're a different kind of breed :P
@@GabrielVargaOfficial thinking about it, because you’re already so lean and stay at a low bf, those last 3lbs are probably sooo much harder to lose. Much respect ✊ appreciate all the knowledge champ!
I just found out yesterday that all Bellator Euro events are not happening. Not sure how long again until they start them. But that shuts down kickboxing as all recent events were in Italy. I'm in the process of deciding my next move.
@@GabrielVargaOfficial damn so they wouldn’t do kickboxing in the states? That’s unfortunate to hear that, hopefully u can get some mma bouts in w them tho
@@GabrielVargaOfficial feel like they should put kickboxing on their cards like how one championship does it, they would get way more eyes on it that way as well
It really depends on many factors. How far you are in your career, how good you are, what style. I've cut nothing up to 15lbs. But I'd say 5-7lbs is a good safe amount to aim for.
Every weight cut should follow ONE's rules. They are the most comprehensive and that's why their events are the best. All of their fighters feel great going in which means there's no tragic fights; bangers ONLY.
Yet there are guys who is way bigger than others in some divisions. I like their method but I have some doubts about do they treat every fighter in same way in that process
Just when RUclips is starting to get boring i find this gem of a channel
Welcome welcome.
I hope you enjoy the videos.
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The description of the hot bath made dizzy, like the footage of Cris Cyborg's infamous weight cut in the hot bath crying.. I'll take the treadmill every time.
I've heard about that but never watched. I don't want to see someone in that state.
I've never been half that bad but I know how awful even 50% is.
I just watched it - jesus. She dropped like 26 lbs. Insane.
You are the realest one talking about kickboxing. I fell so fortunate of have found this channel, both as a fighter and as a coach.
Thanks so much. That's amazing to hear.
@@GabrielVargaOfficial why does it seem to weight cuts are so hard for UFC fighters and other disciplines but not for boxers ? Khabib got really sick, Darren till got really sick. TJ Dillashaw look like he was a victim of the Holocaust. Some of these guys look terrible after cuts. I don't really understand why they have to cut weight. Why can't they just move up in weight and just fight at their natural weight ? I hope this question isn't stupid. Because I really don't understand it and I would like to
@@matthew-jy5jp Good question. It's quite simply because weight advantages matter a lot more in MMA. In boxing extra size means a bit more striking power. But in MMA extra size for wrestling and jiu-jitsu is a major advantage.
I walk at 155lbs and cut to 145lbs.
There are so many guys in my weight class who cut from 170lbs. Some even from 180lbs. In kickboxing doesn't matter to me. But in MMA it's much harder to compete with those guys who rehydrate to 170+
@@GabrielVargaOfficial thanks for the response always wondered about that. You are a class act Gab.
What weight cutting symptoms have you guys had? The one I mentioned in the video was soooo weird. Fortunately it hasn't reoccured recently.
I'm a big fan of ONE's weight cutting policy.
I was fighting in one warrior series (rich Franklin's) before. Their weigh in test comes with a hydration test. Unfortunately I failed once from this especially the hydration test.
Worst time for me was 4 years ago when I was 16. Went to Paris for the Paris Open (taekwondo) and to make the weight I lost about 7kg(about 16lbs) and after making weight and eating/drinking I felt extremely sick, I have to say I cut weight terribly, used to just starve myself and train with layers on of even the sauna suit. I guess you don’t realise how crazy it seems till you look back on it 😂
After I made weight ... I eat everything I wish. Then I get diaria... For some reason my fight was deley for next day (it was national championship with many people and categories). So I managed to recover.
Not a story of mine but one of a taekwondo fighter at either the youth world champs or youth Olympics. Usually with making weight you are allowed to go over the limit by a little bit so the allowed amount was 0.1kg more. This one girl was dieting like crazy for weeks leading up to the weigh in. She came in 0.2kg over the limit, she struggled to lose that extra amount so she was 0.1kg over the 0.1kg limit. After all that training she and dieting, she wasn't allowed to compete.
Ones weight cutting policy seems suspicious to me. At least it looks their hydration test doesn't apply for every fighter. There are some guys who are way bigger than others
Interesting how he mentioned his glands got swollen during the weight cut. I did a 10 day water fast where my glands were feeling weird at the end. Whenever I would eat any type of food, both sides of my jaw would tingle like I was eating sour candy. I havent seen anybody else mention this. The lymph system if complex and apparently your body uses it for draining waste.
Absolutely a legend keep it up my man
So much respect for you for giving your time and your experiences in the fight game
I feel honored to be the second comment
Best channel on youtube. Thanks Gab, you are a class act and great champion.
I walk around between 230-250. Lately, I have been around 226-230.
I have to experience which weight class will be best for me in M.M.A. Heavyweight or Light Heavyweight. If it's heavyweight, I can put on more muscle and maybe take protein powder to bulk up a bit.
However, if I can comfortably make 205, then I could try that route as well.
It's not worth it for me to even try to make 185. Don't kill yourself to try to get an edge. Have confidence that you can beat somebody at the same weight as yourself.
Thanks for all the advice. I've been training from home, so it's amazing to have somebody with your credentials and kind attitude walk me through this new world that I have immersed myself in. ✌️
the baths are crazy, this is how we cut weight for my fights, remember guys always have someone with you while cutting, keep the temp between 106-110, keep some cold wet rags near so you can lay them on your head and chest if you start to over heat or feel like you can’t stay in any longer.
Easiest way to cut weight is to prolonged fast with salt water. Just fasted 6 days w just water and salt water. Lost 13 pounds of fat. Would you rather cut fast or slow??
U need to put in some pictures or video clips from this worst weight cut u had. Thanks for sharing
I have none. I never wanted people with cameras or videos around me then.
I know this is an old video. But the bath definitely does NOT have to be scolding hot. Comfortably warm will do the job. Been there done that.
The bath doesn't need to be scolding hot, apparently a bit above your core body temp is enough to induce sweating. But obviously the hotter it is the faster the sweats come on.
That's interesting, I used the hot bath most of my pro career. I guess it's just like cold temperatures, you have to get your body used to it regularly. I could easily loose a bit over 2kg in less than an hour without feeling bad.
In my amateur career, I used a jump rope once,never again as I ended up fighting with a calf cramp 😄
Knowledge from a great fighter! Thanks so much for posting this.
It just once again shows what works for me isn't the only way to go.
You thrived with the hot bath.
I thrived cutting weight with a workout.
2 champs with different methods 🙏
And they both work.
@@GabrielVargaOfficial your chanel is absolutely great, thanks so much for all the great content.
Gabriel I love you videos, I think you’d really benefit from lapel microphone, sometimes I have trouble hearing. Keep up the good work !
So glad you ended up okay Gab. 😊 it seems to me like the weight cut is more dangerous than the fighting. But then again that's just from someone who is viewing it from the outside of the sport
It definitely can be more dangerous. Fortunately for me that was the only really bad one. But other guys really hurt their body making weight.
@@GabrielVargaOfficial not only that body but doesn't introduce the fluid around your brain ?
Thanks for sharing this experience. If you would cut more weight, let's say 10 pounds, How would you do it. I already cut 6 or 7 pounds and it was pretty okay without food and water for 20 hours and a bit of running.
I would definitely use a portable sauna. Your head doesn't overheat.
Nobody great ever did it by the book. You gotta find out what works for you.
BTW if you get in a steam room, hot tub etc you gotta cool down the body. You're killing cells but need to stimulate a proper growing environment during recovery. Sleep is just as important for proper weight control.
It's almost surprising how I don't know many cases of fighters passing away from fighting, and rather from cutting weight, probably my biggest fear as an aspiring fighter right beside stage fright.
Unrelated to the topic, but can you link the music you use in your description ?
The intro music is Thrilling Chase by Fekilstoff
@@GabrielVargaOfficial thanks 👍
My worst cut was my own fault. I didn't manage my diet and exercise leading up to the event. A even had time to change my weight class, but chose not to. Did a hot bath the night before, then immediately to bed. Woke up on weight. Sounds good right? Did I forget to mention this was for a grappling tournament with same day weigh-ins? Yeah, so I go to the venue, hit the scales, THEN take in my first food and water in 24 hrs (with only 3 hrs until my first of 6 matches). Needless to say, I didn't even come close to recovering enough to be of any use on the mats. Weak, nauseous, total brain fog, etc. Bad day, never again.
This is why I usually walk around at no more than 190 lbs, so I only have to cut 4 lbs to make weight for a fight (I fight at middleweight 185 lbs) so I don't have to put myself through these painful shenanigans, it is not worth it. I do some extra cardio, shadow boxing, sparring or a couple miles run with a hoodie or a sweat suit, eat healthy and I'm fine
Nice. And you never feel undersized next to your opponents?
I like the small weight cuts for long term health.
@@GabrielVargaOfficial Nah, I have the luck of possessing a quite thick and bulky physique, so size is not an issue for me, I'm quite big, stocky. Maybe height is a little bit, 'cause I'm only 5'8, not very tall for a middleweight, so more often than not my opponents are taller than me.
But at 186 lbs I am at 10% body fat, and feel good. Lean, fast, powerful and explosive. Personally I would never go sub 10% body fat, not sustainable for me. I walk around at 12-13%, then I cut down to 10-11% during fight camp.
hey so mr varga i went to Combat sport
Wikipedia and looked at Common combat sports include boxing (including many styles of kickboxing), wrestling (including Sumo wrestling), fencing, modern-era mixed martial arts (MMA), as well as many varieties of indigenous martial arts, such as judo (Japanese), savate (French), Muay Thai (Thai), Lethwei (Burmese), Sanda (Chinese), Tae Kwon Do (Korean), Capoeira (Afro-Brazilian), Brazilian jiu-jitsu (Brazilian), Sambo (Soviet), and Kyokushin (Japanese-Korean). and i have chosen 5 striking sports 1 hybrid sport sanda,kyokushin karate,taekwondo itf,muay thai,savate,combat sambo these are the best combat sport martial art fighting styles of all time some are in houston others in america good right i will make money form does sports as a martial artist
Champ what's your walk around weight
Reminds me of my last weight cut :o
Oh no. That's not what I like to hear.
I hope the next one is much much better for you.
when you say on this video, that you were walking around 146 ib before bath, that is the walk around weight after already dieting, right?
How small of meals we talking about?
Half a banana and a scoop of peanut butter.
Or sometimes half a can of tuna and some greens.
How mutch kg‘s can you loose just with water weight cutting?
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This happened for a 3 Ib cut? Imagine what it’s like for 30 Ibs 😳
I guess the only difference is my walk around body fat percentage is 6-7.
Those guys have cut some body fat and have a lot more muscle to trim down on.
I'm already a pretty lean guy.
@@GabrielVargaOfficial I've heard some crazy weight cutting stories from Greco-Roman wrestlers. One of them was an Olympic medalist, with a training/walkaround weight of ~85 kg (six pack and all) and he wrestled in the 67kg-category... They're a different kind of breed :P
@@GabrielVargaOfficial thinking about it, because you’re already so lean and stay at a low bf, those last 3lbs are probably sooo much harder to lose. Much respect ✊ appreciate all the knowledge champ!
I love this channel so bad
is bellator still doing kickboxing? u know anything about their next event gabriel?
I just found out yesterday that all Bellator Euro events are not happening. Not sure how long again until they start them.
But that shuts down kickboxing as all recent events were in Italy. I'm in the process of deciding my next move.
@@GabrielVargaOfficial damn so they wouldn’t do kickboxing in the states? That’s unfortunate to hear that, hopefully u can get some mma bouts in w them tho
@@GabrielVargaOfficial feel like they should put kickboxing on their cards like how one championship does it, they would get way more eyes on it that way as well
My glands were a balloon
How many pounds do suggest to cut least??
It really depends on many factors. How far you are in your career, how good you are, what style.
I've cut nothing up to 15lbs. But I'd say 5-7lbs is a good safe amount to aim for.
@@GabrielVargaOfficial Thank you
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