Tool Talk #13: All of my table saw sleds and jigs

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  • Опубликовано: 13 янв 2025

Комментарии • 133

  • @terrymiller5028
    @terrymiller5028 7 лет назад

    This is the first time I have watched one of your posts,and I really liked and appreciated what you said as well as the references to other peoples jigs.Thanks,and I will watch again.

  • @frankcornfield5915
    @frankcornfield5915 4 года назад

    Thanks for this useful info. I like your straightforward natural style of delivery.

  • @rmcdaniel423
    @rmcdaniel423 8 лет назад +25

    I like how you and some of my other favorite workshop RUclipsrs are starting to reference and work with each other. I like the collaboration and mutual support. Very cool.

    • @mdevidograndpacificlumbera1539
      @mdevidograndpacificlumbera1539 7 лет назад

      rmcdaniel423 dude, it's a wood working rennasance! Same goes for all things. I love the internet!

    • @foxvincenzo5027
      @foxvincenzo5027 3 года назад

      pro tip: watch series on Kaldrostream. I've been using it for watching loads of movies these days.

    • @kannonbrixton9771
      @kannonbrixton9771 3 года назад

      @Fox Vincenzo Definitely, been using KaldroStream for since december myself :)

  • @felixreali7101
    @felixreali7101 6 лет назад +1

    I love your no-nonsense approach to this...."if it's not convenient, I'm not interested" lol. thanks for sharing this. great video as always.

  • @davemoreno4323
    @davemoreno4323 8 лет назад +8

    I really enjoy your videos, I like that you collaborate with other channels and promote them as well. Giving credit when it's due and being humble are noble attributes.

    • @JayBates2
      @JayBates2  8 лет назад

      +Dave Moreno Thank you Dave,

  • @KyleBruns
    @KyleBruns 8 лет назад

    than you for this Jay. As a new woodworker it's good to see what stood the test of time.

  • @TimothyHall13
    @TimothyHall13 8 лет назад +3

    Jigs and sleds are the most wonderful things and are wonderful inspiration to hear all your thoughts on them. Thanks Jay.

  • @KSFWG
    @KSFWG 8 лет назад +10

    I like that you revisited your jigs and offered up tips and advice after you have used them (or not used them) for a while. Thanks!

  • @woodbarber6679
    @woodbarber6679 8 лет назад +9

    I liked your comment on "If you're going to use a framing square to check for square , may as well use it set you're fence". Simplicity is usually the most effective way of doing things.

  • @steverochon1620
    @steverochon1620 3 года назад +1

    I'm planning for a storage shelf exclusively for sleds to go under the right extension of my saw, so I'm looking into sleds I'll want to make in the future. This was a great help for what I might want. BTW, I find that using plastic or composite runners cut from cheap store-bought cutting boards make for very stable runners. Merry Christmas and happy new year to you and your family mon ami!

  • @BoofHeadProductions
    @BoofHeadProductions 7 лет назад

    An old video I know but I just found it. Great info mate, I like the practicality of your jigs & sleds, simple is always best. Plus its always refreshing to hear people explaining why something they put some effort into building has bad points. We're all trying to improve our work but too often hear only the good things or just a build video with not follow up on how practical it is after some use. Cheers

  • @Sebastopolmark
    @Sebastopolmark 8 лет назад

    GREAT video Jay. It's nice for us to have you use the jigs for awhile and then give us your unbiased review. As we can see, not all of the jigs are a home run on the first try.
    Thanks again.

  • @wavetrader742
    @wavetrader742 7 лет назад

    Thanks Jay, I was at the point of building a new crosscut sled and now I'm sold on the idea of a single sided sled which will solve all the issues I had with previous designs I've tried.

  • @cjorg16
    @cjorg16 8 лет назад

    Great tips with the sleds. Here is a little one I use. I too like the one sided sled for the same reasons, however its one drawback can be chip out at the end of the cut at the trailing edge. If I want to prevent this, I place a piece of scrap wood behind the trailing edge of the piece I am cutting when I start the cut, to prevent any chip out at the end of the cut. Works great. Thanks Jay.

  • @Bassmondo
    @Bassmondo 8 лет назад

    Another great video Jay. Dude the lighting in your shop is awesome and the shop is so clean, it really adds to the quality of your video.

  • @michaelbradford4444
    @michaelbradford4444 2 года назад

    I like and agree with your thoughts on having the fence towards the back of the sled and will incorporate that into my soon to be newly modified cross-cut sled , Thanks

  • @ProspectorBill
    @ProspectorBill 8 лет назад

    Thanks Jay! I made the multi-purpose carriage bolt jig to be used for tapering legs. Works like a dream.

  • @DennDeBill
    @DennDeBill 8 лет назад +1

    Great insights! As a person who is planing to build Nick's sled it was very good to learn that the one-sided has big advantages, too

  • @MichaelOlsen-Engineer
    @MichaelOlsen-Engineer 8 лет назад +1

    Very nice job on reviewing your various sleds and jigs. I have a Craftsman job site saw that provides a reasonable miter sled. The draw back is that many of the common jig designs simply will not work on my saw. However, many your observations provided me with a number of ideas for developing effective jigs.

  • @CMDR_Elizium51RA
    @CMDR_Elizium51RA 8 лет назад

    Love this video. Just got my first table saw and starting to plan jigs. Perfect. Thanks Jay!

  • @jeffandphoebe
    @jeffandphoebe 8 лет назад

    Good stuff Jay. As a newbie, I'm learning a lot from your videos.

  • @chokeyourchicken4
    @chokeyourchicken4 8 лет назад +8

    You always hit the nail on the head. I always enjoy your presentations and the way you make your Video's. I have been watching since you first started?, and have enjoyed it every step of the way.
    Good Job, Hope YOU have a Good Day!

    • @JayBates2
      @JayBates2  8 лет назад +2

      +Robert Serr Thank you very much Robert.

    • @schoolkutielake5336
      @schoolkutielake5336 7 лет назад +1

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  • @russdixon614
    @russdixon614 8 лет назад

    Enjoy the tool talks, the content is always well considered.

  • @MarriedManWoodworking
    @MarriedManWoodworking 5 лет назад

    Your real life experience is nicely conveyed in your video. Keep it up. I am now subscribed.

  • @ericengle6975
    @ericengle6975 5 лет назад

    You have a new fan! Appreciate your thorough descriptions, and some of your more advanced video edits (shop table) are a blast to watch! Rock on brother!

  • @LORENIFFT68
    @LORENIFFT68 5 лет назад +2

    I would really like to become a good friend of yours in the case that you may someday get rid of a tablesaw. That seems to be a great way to get high quality tools, LOL. Keep up the great videos.

  • @Yusufmasron
    @Yusufmasron 7 лет назад

    i like yr thought process about the one sided crosscut sled Jay.

  • @Yusufmasron
    @Yusufmasron 7 лет назад

    I like your thought process Jay. Cheers.

  • @nafitron
    @nafitron 6 лет назад

    Totally enjoyed this! Looking for good solutions/ideas for sleds/jigs for typical cuts and needs. Thanks for sharing!!

  • @jamelynch4474
    @jamelynch4474 5 лет назад

    As soon as I started the video I liked the speed at which you talk.

  • @simplediyr
    @simplediyr 8 лет назад

    I was just thinking about making a different sled for the very same reason as you where the sled is off balance past the half way mark and towards the end.
    Gonna build me a one sided sled to see how I like it.
    Thanks, great tool talk ep.

    • @NOLALongboards
      @NOLALongboards 8 лет назад +1

      +Simple DIYr Give google a search for "table saw super sled". Good design for one simple sled that you can make a few attachments for. Kind of like what Jay is talking about with the spline cutting jig but instead of a miter gauge you attach your spline jig, miter setup, tenon jig to the 'super sled'.

    • @simplediyr
      @simplediyr 8 лет назад

      +NOLALongboards thanks, will do. I'm more interested in the one sided sled. With my current one, I find myself leaning over the sled towards the end and that's really scary.

  • @tratzum
    @tratzum 7 лет назад

    Thank you for all of your videos. While there are many woodworking videos yours are easy to understand.
    I was wondering if you could do a video on making a simple Tapering jig. I was attempting to do a taper on both sides of a block for table leg and just couldn't get it right.

  • @artconnolly9519
    @artconnolly9519 8 лет назад

    I discovered that you can put a strip or two of painters tape along the entire side of the runners. it stays put and works perfectly. I had the same issue with a few jigs and that method worked great.

    • @upstate922
      @upstate922 8 лет назад

      Me too, works a treat!

    • @artconnolly9519
      @artconnolly9519 8 лет назад

      +upstate922
      I was surprised at how well its holding up too. it hasn't fallen off or even wore down

  • @aearnest
    @aearnest 8 лет назад

    Your infeed supports are also very good for the table saw

  • @georgewebster6090
    @georgewebster6090 8 лет назад +1

    Hi Jay great video as usual. I copied a idea from a channel a year ago where a grub screw is inserted into runner and adjusted every time humidity changes.

  • @MrPrecisionShot
    @MrPrecisionShot 8 лет назад

    Hey Jay,
    Love these tool talks. This one in particular is quite timely. I'm about two thirds the way through building a replica of Nick Ferry's cross-cut sled and would like to ask you Nick and April about Jig storage especially when your shop size is limited.

  • @alaskankare
    @alaskankare 7 лет назад

    I just got my first table saw and went to make my first sled, but ran into a dilemma where the material I grabbed, that was laying around for the runners ended up being thinner than my runner spaces on the saw. I fixed this problem by using two runners, as planned initially, and wedging them in on the outsides. This has the runners towards the center of each space, towards the blade. then glued on my board. Even though they don't fill the width of the runner, because they are touching the inside of each space, it doesn't allow any wiggle room because they counter act each other, and the sled is solid with no slack. :)

  • @martinadams6067
    @martinadams6067 2 года назад

    Nice job. Kept me very intrigued

  • @timfoster5043
    @timfoster5043 7 лет назад

    I wish more people would post videos like this, especially if they have a lot of jig or tool-building videos.

  • @NicholasGomez
    @NicholasGomez 8 лет назад

    Sweet !! My fav is the multi table saw hold down sled :). Lots of bells and whistles in this video. :)

    • @NicholasGomez
      @NicholasGomez 8 лет назад

      #first post and #youshould be first to reply. Lol

  • @davidbarton215
    @davidbarton215 4 года назад

    Some very cool ideas, many thanks.

  • @nonparticipant4671
    @nonparticipant4671 5 лет назад

    Great vid Jay. If I may, I would like to contribute one possible suggestion. When you are going to do a project that requires a counter sink bit, make your start mark with the awl or whatever you use and then use the countersink bit first. The hole will come out much cleaner and is more accurate overall for both bits. Please feel free to add this advice in your videos, if you agree and find it useful.

  • @marcosg9736
    @marcosg9736 8 лет назад

    thanks Jay nice video, nice chat. from México Mark

  • @cobberpete1
    @cobberpete1 8 лет назад +4

    Thanks Jay, All hail to Norm.... My sled is also the single side design from the NY Wk shop ;0

    • @bobbg9041
      @bobbg9041 7 лет назад +1

      Hail NORM HAIL NORM HAIL NORM........... If norm comes on This old house and complains about Hail damage to his house we have you to blame!

  • @caseystockbridge
    @caseystockbridge 5 лет назад

    I liked your points about sled stability. So I was thinking... Couldn't cross cut sleds be more stable if the fences were placed away from the edge?

  • @1873Winchester
    @1873Winchester 8 лет назад

    Somehow I thought I would be building a lot of jigs for my table saw before I ever got started. But I basically have only one jig, matthias wandels box joint jig (it's great, I use it to cut 6mm box joints or 1/4" with a regular blade). Happened on a hybrid style saw (cabinet/slider combo) and a slider made a whole lot of the most useful jigs like sleds entirely superfluous. I think a wedgie sled however would be worth building.

  • @anthonydtobias
    @anthonydtobias 8 лет назад +2

    to fix the loose runner, Frank Howard did a video and he put a slit and a screw hole at the end of the runner so when you tighten the screw it expands the width of the end of the runner and makes a tighter fit.... I hope that made sense haha

  • @MayTheLightBeWithYou
    @MayTheLightBeWithYou 5 лет назад

    I rip 6mm acrylic for table runners, sand to an exact fit and never worry about moisture expanding and contracting them

  • @youwak2008
    @youwak2008 7 лет назад

    Thank's for sharing your knowledge! Great ideas

  • @jeffforbes3772
    @jeffforbes3772 8 лет назад

    Thanks Jay. I was wondering if you had a tenon jig but then I was wondering if any of your projects have used tenons. I do remember the half laps but I thought you did those with a dado blade. Anyway good vid. good info.

  • @MRrwmac
    @MRrwmac 8 лет назад

    Like how you covered the builds you did before in the apartment shop and how you found little to no use of some of your jigs. However, the jigs were worth a try though. Will you be talking about any of your fence jigs or other shop jigs later?

    • @JayBates2
      @JayBates2  8 лет назад +2

      +MRrwmac I don't have any fence jigs that I can think of. I might do a video on various other shop jigs or projects.

  • @mellowman8695
    @mellowman8695 7 лет назад

    I don't know why I am just now subscribing

  • @rogerherrick8323
    @rogerherrick8323 8 лет назад

    Great video. Thanks for all the info.

  • @user-le4qy8vi1u
    @user-le4qy8vi1u 8 лет назад +1

    I like the tool talks. Keep up the good videos.

  • @w4mkh
    @w4mkh 5 лет назад

    Great video. You don't like the front or rear fence extending past the blade to help with tear out?

  • @ksp1278
    @ksp1278 8 лет назад

    Great video. Thanks for sharing!

  • @jomarnavarro7
    @jomarnavarro7 8 лет назад

    your miter jig looks like a cool plane design. my kids would be all over it. it would more likely be in tjeir toy box than in my shop

  • @TheQuarterbackX
    @TheQuarterbackX 4 года назад

    Man, I never knew how hard it must be to say you are making a slice in the pitcher from so to input a disk/bisket between the joints for strengthening a joint and nice look. You way I think most people who did not know before hand such a joint , would had been clueless.
    Words to the wise. I had a doctor teach me this years ago. Never use a $50 word when you have a $1 that will work. Translation, dont try to be so fancy with your words and descriptions, so to show how fancy you can be while talking over your audience. In a manner designed to prevent you from best conveying your ideal to them.

  • @MikeKapotsy
    @MikeKapotsy 8 лет назад

    cool jigs. I have a couple like that I don't use. other than my cross-cut.

  • @Phate8263
    @Phate8263 8 лет назад

    I've always found that a rear fence has the benefit of reducing tear-out compared to the front fence.

  • @guyh.4553
    @guyh.4553 4 года назад

    I've started using jigs more & more lately. Good ideas! Regarding your single sided sled, wouldn't the runner length be the major factor? Specifically keeping the runner in the slot after the pass had been made? Just thinking.

  • @thesparky61
    @thesparky61 8 лет назад

    I used a 3/4 x3/8 pc of cold roll for miter slot works great

  • @wdc72
    @wdc72 2 года назад

    That was a fairly long video. I watched the entire thing. I’m pretty handy with the tools myself and I gotta say….that was a great video bud.

  • @Geoffm7
    @Geoffm7 8 лет назад

    These are great! Thanks for sharing!

  • @jimcooney9019
    @jimcooney9019 8 лет назад +1

    thanks for the video good information Jay

  • @ccccen
    @ccccen 8 лет назад

    At 13:47 It's a good idea of that side jig.

  • @airwolf61970
    @airwolf61970 6 лет назад

    Didn't you make a jointer/taper sled early on?
    I remember watching!
    It was an old video I think

  • @AlvinDean
    @AlvinDean 8 лет назад

    Hey Jay, Love the tool talk videos, any chance at you consolidating them on a playlist, (i know you have 1-6 on a playlist but im sure it fell off your plate!) it would make for easier viewing and finding for your viewers!
    Thanks
    ~Deano

  • @TenMands
    @TenMands 8 лет назад

    jay do you have a video showing how to use the( hold down jig ) for jointing. thanks

  • @fuzzy1dk
    @fuzzy1dk 8 лет назад

    considered moving the fence on that single side sled so that you have the fence on far side when the sled is on the right and doesn't hang off the table?

    • @Ray_Sellner
      @Ray_Sellner 6 лет назад

      I had a feeling that if I looked deeper into the comments I might find this one. That was my thought as well. There may be an obstruction in the way on the right side.

  • @JD_Fidler
    @JD_Fidler 8 лет назад +1

    Good stuff once again. I too use the Norm style "panel cutting jig" as he called it. I added a toggle clamp to mine and that's been a big help stabilizing some pieces before some cuts get started. Do you put any finish on your jigs?

  • @kevinbowker2385
    @kevinbowker2385 8 лет назад

    Thanks Jay. More helpful than you may think for such a simple video. Where do you end up storing all of your sleds and jigs? I'm pretty short on space.

    • @JayBates
      @JayBates 8 лет назад

      one side sled is upside down hanging on my plywood cart. two sided sled is on the floor leaning up against the bandsaw. multifunction hold down sled is normally leaning against one of the crosscut sleds. Box joint jig is right in front of the saw. spline jig and anything I don't use often goes on the high storage shelves.

  • @fred_derf
    @fred_derf 6 лет назад

    I love the idea of putting the fence on the leading edge, thanks very much for the idea.
    Subscribed.
    P.S., why not replace the runner on your single-sided sled?

  • @bubza37
    @bubza37 8 лет назад

    Thanks Jay!

  • @fisharmor
    @fisharmor 8 лет назад +1

    Wouldn't the single side sled also work with multiple blades? Supposing your blade mounts to the left, it seems like no matter what the blade kerf, even if it's a dado, it's still probably going to work with that sled, right?

  • @donproctor3445
    @donproctor3445 3 года назад

    After watching many table saw vids with jigs I'm wondering why table saw manufacturers don't make tables that have 2 miter grooves on ea side of the blade. This would make sled design easier especially 1 sided jigs.

  • @hspringsteen
    @hspringsteen 8 лет назад

    why is the runner on your one sided cross cut sled sticking out towards you? Why didn't you cut it off?

    • @JayBates2
      @JayBates2  8 лет назад

      +Howard Springsteen Not sure why I didn't cut it off. It's not bothering me so I think I'll leave it for now.

  • @jomarnavarro7
    @jomarnavarro7 8 лет назад

    mitter jigs just works with a tenon jig, tilting the frame like wandel does.

  • @joethompson4372
    @joethompson4372 8 лет назад

    Do you find it best not to have runners on some of your sleds? Do you ever have trouble running it straight through the blade even up against the fence?

    • @JayBates2
      @JayBates2  8 лет назад +1

      +Joe Thompson It's the same as pushing a piece of plywood through. Focus on keeping the material flush against the fence.

  • @vaulimere
    @vaulimere 8 лет назад

    Good video Jay. How much play do you think is ok in the runner, or how do you check to see if it's too much? I just made a very basic sled to start using and the runner isn't perfect, but I think too much tighter and it would stop sliding freely enough.

    • @JayBates2
      @JayBates2  8 лет назад +1

      +Jon Stewart Make a cut and check it for square. If it's not square either the fence isn't 90 degrees or the runner has too much play. My fence is still a perfect 90 degrees to the edge of the sled and I don't consistently get 90 degree cuts.

  • @AeonCatalyst
    @AeonCatalyst 7 лет назад

    Just commenting to let you know that the links you said you'd post aren't there yet.

  • @Sidneybeach875
    @Sidneybeach875 8 лет назад

    hey guys, I have been on a crappy black and Decker, Walmart table saw........for 11 years now. was just a rough carpenter at the time, but now with my own shop near completion, I need more from my table saw. was thinking of a used saw from Craigslist. there are a lot in my area. any good brands to keep an eye open for? I know I won't find a sawstop on Craigslist, the only other names I know that could be trusted to make a decent product would be them, delta and grizzly. any other suggestions?

    • @Sidneybeach875
      @Sidneybeach875 8 лет назад

      woodworks1423 kinda looking for a cabinet saw. I did use a ryobi contractors saw last week tho, and I was impressed

    • @leonardvolvo66
      @leonardvolvo66 8 лет назад

      sidney beach

  • @scotttaylor2917
    @scotttaylor2917 8 лет назад

    how do i get to nick's sled video?

  • @courtneyfaas1266
    @courtneyfaas1266 8 лет назад

    GREAT VIDEO!

  • @genardusfaberus6514
    @genardusfaberus6514 8 лет назад

    Great video

  • @dats2003
    @dats2003 8 лет назад

    super helpful video!

  • @2001DestructionofLies
    @2001DestructionofLies 8 лет назад

    on the last cross cut sled you showed in the video is there a difference between that and a panel cutting sled?

  • @jamesguerrieri949
    @jamesguerrieri949 8 лет назад

    As one viewer commented, buy cheap HDPE cutting boards and cut your runners from that. Then there is no worries about expansion or shrinkage. Nice video Jay.

  • @jurorx
    @jurorx 8 лет назад +2

    Would HDPE runners work better?

    • @JayBates2
      @JayBates2  8 лет назад

      +Making SawDust Never used them. Maybe?

    • @jurorx
      @jurorx 8 лет назад

      Was just thinking that 1. It is dimensionally stable and 2. It should glide with no issue.

    • @dstarr3
      @dstarr3 8 лет назад +1

      +Making SawDust I've started using HDPE runners. It's glorious.

    • @headknocker8999
      @headknocker8999 7 лет назад

      I haven't either BUT have a cutting board of it given by a friend that will become runners, blocks etc. Great Videos Jay2, My #1 sled is small & because of that gets used the most.. Gary/Hk

  • @markaalex2159
    @markaalex2159 4 года назад

    Какая у вас циркулярка?

  • @mlk4343
    @mlk4343 8 лет назад

    Frank Howart has a video with a better version (IMO) of Picciutto's miter jig

  • @TheWhatever3636
    @TheWhatever3636 7 лет назад

    100k view :) congrats

  • @smacurface
    @smacurface 7 лет назад

    Are you only making these videos for the American audience ?

  • @aaronstill
    @aaronstill 8 лет назад

    I'm building nicks sled at the moment

  • @nickpepper4592
    @nickpepper4592 8 лет назад +1

    Dude what's up with the lathe tools being upside down? haha

    • @JayBates2
      @JayBates2  8 лет назад

      +NE P (Pepper Squad) I filled the PVC slots with tools like normal. I have a couple more tools than PVC slots so the wasted triangle space between two PVC tubes and the back of the holder is perfect for holding small diameter tools cutting edge down. Just cant see what they are.

    • @nickpepper4592
      @nickpepper4592 8 лет назад +1

      I'm no troll. I was only busting your chops because you mentioned it in the video prior to this one.

    • @JayBates2
      @JayBates2  8 лет назад +1

      No worries :)

  • @NHD565
    @NHD565 7 лет назад

    Dear Sir
    I would like to thank you for these beautiful creations, from which we work many and many
    And I want to ask you to shoot a video for the industry of horizontal motion mechanic
    Because I am an industrial secondary teacher and I will implement it in my school and this machine will benefit me and the students very much
    I thank you again and await your response to my wish
    Name: Hussein Ibrahim
    Egyptian teacher

  • @teh40oz
    @teh40oz 8 лет назад

    you can use uhmw tape or iron-on veneer on your runner to pick up the slack on your panel sled.
    also, david's (fww's) picture frame sled was a terrible design for large frames (~5" miters). the sled hangs awkwardly-heavily & diagonally unsupported off the table just to start the cut, and very jerky in all directions feeding it into the blade. (due to the majority of it hanging off the table) huge disappointment & a waste of time.

  • @bobbg9041
    @bobbg9041 7 лет назад

    Buy yourself a machinist square they are more accurate. and they really don't cost that much. But I've found a speed square is for the most part better then a framing square you can drop it and its ok you drop a framing square and you can knock it out of square
    I've got one that's so far out its not funny. The carpenter that built my house must have had it. Apparently the 3-4-5 method was 3.2-3.9-and 5.5
    Yes I know lumber moves, but not 3"....

  • @willaimmaxwell5069
    @willaimmaxwell5069 5 лет назад

    You are an accomplished carpenter: I am not. If you are just speaking to equal peers who know just how your tools will be used, fine. If not, you've lost the rest of us! Show us how they work; show us what they do! Cut some wood! We are more ignorant than you think. Me thinks. Thanks for teaching us.

  • @mikefry334
    @mikefry334 8 лет назад

    dude, lower the caffeine intake and slow down!! LOL