Why The Suicide Squad Worked where Garbage Squad Failed | One v One
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Warner Brothers is back with another new DC movie that replaces a bad one from before, much like was the case with Zack Snyder's cut of Justice League and Josstice League. So let's do the same thing as last time and compare 2021's The Suicide Squad directed by James Gunn to 2016's Suicide Squad not directed by David Ayer, to see if and how it improves on its core flaws, which we covered a couple years ago in the Anatomy of a Failure episode of Suicide Squad. The suicide squad did become a bit of a box office flop though, for various reasons, but because of that interesting to see if Warners will release the Ayer Cut of the original as well or if they've just moved on altogether.
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The Suicide Squad (2021)
Welcome Belle Reve prison, where you'll find the worst of the world's worst supervillains. And they'll do anything to get out - even join... Task Force X. Join Bloodsport (Idris Elba), Peacemaker (John Cena), Blackguard (Pete Davidson), everyone’s favorite psycho, Harley Quinn (Margot Robbie) and other weaponized bad-guys on the enemy-infused island of Corto Maltese for a search-and-destroy mission. With only Colonel Rick Flag (Joel Kinnaman) on the ground and Amanda Waller’s (Viola Davis) government techies in their ears, it's a high stakes game.
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Zack Snyder's Justice League (2021)
In Zack Snyder's Justice League, determined to ensure Superman’s (Henry Cavill) ultimate sacrifice was not in vain, Bruce Wayne (Ben Affleck) aligns forces with Diana Prince (Gal Gadot) with plans to recruit a team of metahumans to protect the world from an approaching threat of catastrophic proportions. The task proves more difficult than Bruce imagined, as each of the recruits must face the demons of their own pasts to transcend the suicide squad cut honest trailer everything wrong with the suicide squad vs suicide squad comparison watch the suicide squad movie online 4k hd clip deadshot starro suicide squad ending fight rats ratcatcher all peacemaker scenes suicide squad ending explained reaction suicide squad king shark funniest moments manhunter allowing them to come together, Floyd Lawton shows Deadshot | Suicide Squad peacemaker funny scenes peacemaker vs bloodshot the suicide squad opening scene beach fight battle all weasel scenes finally the suicide squad clip hd forming an unprecedented the suicide squad best moments funny moments video essay of heroes. Now united, Batman (Affleck), Wonder Woman (Gadot), Aquaman (Jason Momoa), Cyborg (Ray Fisher), Zack Snyder's Justice League Justice is gray edition and Moist Meter | The Suicide Squad best of king shark The Flash (Ezra Miller) why is the snyder cut better than justice league snyder cut or justice league may be too late to save the planet from Steppenwolf, DeSaad, and Darkseid and their dreadful intentions.
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Suicide Squad (2016)
In this "super-antihero" movie directed by David Ayer (Fury), a team of incarcerated villains -- including Deadshot (Will Smith), Harley Quinn (Margot Robbie), El Diablo (Jay Hernandez), Killer Croc (Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje), Enchantress (Cara Delevingne), and Captain Boomerang (Jai Courtney) -- are recruited by the government for a dangerous mission in exchange for reduced sentences. Jared Leto makes a cameo appearance as the Joker. Joel Kinnaman and Viola Davis co-star. Based on the DC Comics series. 
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"No one likes a show off"
"Unless what they showing off is dope as f***"
*That dialogue was fire*
Bloodsport: “FUCK…. That’s true…”
That shit had me fucking dyin dude 😂
That whole sequence from eliminate with extreme prejudice to "my mother in my head and killed them!" was fire.
John cena delivered that line perfectly
@@saghhinooz1755 true
I loved when he randomly started speaking ****
King Shark getting betrayed by his little fish friends was sad. 😔
He eats people, they eat him.
he should've retracted his statement "new dumb friends" then maybe they wouldn't attack him
They were never his friends 😡
I thought for sure he was gonna die there
Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but could be a comment on how when you have no friends, you're sometimes so eager to make friends that you fail to notice when someone isn't good friend material and just out to eat/manipulate you rather than build a real friendship. Okay, yeah, maybe reading too much into it. :D
James Gunn getting fired then singlehandedly saving the very next comic franchise he works on is legendary.
Now is dc’s time to shine he’s going to be like a Kevin feige
They lost money with Gunn. The movie is forgettable just like guardians 2.
How are they winning?
How does one save a comic franchise when it bombed at the box office and the first "garbage" one made more money which is David Zaslav's goal? Legendary is ENDGAME. Legendary is the DARK KNIGHT TRILOGY. Gunn is already 0-1 after Henry Cavill was fired. We shall see. He's going to have to make an incredible and MAINSTREAM popular film with Superman and the rest of the DCEU. I know he can do Lobo and Green Lantern Corps and SS 3 ... but Superman?
@@alexanderwindh4830 Guardians of Galaxy 2 is not forgettable you're just a Marvel fan boy because Marvel became big you probably never ever read a comic or even knew of any plots before it became supermain stream with the avengers movies!
People like you that aren't even real comic book fans r what's wrong with the bandwagon Marvel fans
@@TheBaBaTV Ya'll forget mcu took a while to get off the ground Not every movie was great Iron man 3 sucked avengers ultron sucked don't act like marvel is perfect Doctor strange 2 sucked Thor love and thunder sucked those did decent at the box office but not like the 1s before it!
Marvel's most recent phase started off so bad that people were starting to jump ship and get confused to where was even going to the point they had to leak what the plot line is for future movies just to keep people invested so tf u talking bout bandwagon fan boy im a real Marvel an DC fan All real Marvel fans know DC has been the better franchise for a better part of a 100 years
Marvel just started catching up and taking the lead because of the movies but comics wise DC still leaps an bounds above marvel
Most of your favorite Marvel characters were stolen and copied from D c's characters that came 20 30 40 years before them so know u history b4 u sux dic just 2 sux dic It's easy to jump on the winning team after their winning aka a fake bandwagon fan like u an the other dude lmao
I went into the cinema with zero expectations. I came out caring very sincerely about a guy committed to peace no matter the cost, a guy raised to be a weapon his whole life, a girl who can control rats, a man covered in explosive polka dots, a shark man thing who can barely string a sentence together, a soldier who had to keep his eye on this merry band of misfits and a gigantic alien starfish who missed his home in space.
No Gunn wil have ever y HIGH expectation placed on him for Superman. There's no goofy or quirky characters. There's no misfits, other than Lobo who is a villain of Superman / Lantern Corps. He can do goofy sh*t , but can he do classic heroes? Particularly after the divisive handling of Henry Cavill.
@@SuperOmnicronsj44 DC and universal are terrible at organization, filming, writers, etc.. they made too many Batman’s , they can’t be proper like MCU IS !
@@TheBaBaTV I won't disagree with your DC and universal comment, but the MCU is anything but proper these days, it's a damn mess with the garbage they are putting out these days. It used to be proper, but I think Disney took it off the cliff at this point...
@@SuperOmnicronsj44 So because he didn't re-sign Cavil, he can't write something good? How does that work exactly? Genuinely curious
@@sebl9710 No, people simply view the decision as horribly callous, which it was. The question remains: Can he make a genuine, heartfelt character like Superman? Or can he only do tongue and cheek misfit heroes? Why can he still work at Disney after openly "joking" about being a pedophile, but so many others are cancelled permanently for far, far less? Was he one of the people listed in Epstein's black book that has been hidden from the public? Did Epstein kill himself?
Time will tell...
2016: When a studio has full control
2021: When a creator has full control
And I am still feeling bad about 2016 Squad. It could be a good movie with cool dark, but still bright style with blood, dark humor and badass characters. But something went wrong and we got Joker who was fixed only with Snyder's help, enough characters we don't actually care, okay jokes, but could be better and boring villian with boring motivation.
But in 2021 film, James had too much control, because sometimes gory stuff made me bored and petty much childish jokes. But the second part of movie was just perfect.
just watch Snyder's Army of The Dead and you'll see that even when a creator has full control it doesn't guarantees a good movie
didnt this movie do pretty poorly at the box office?
James Gunn wanted superman to be the villain of the new suicide squad movie but that wasnt possible so starro it was
@@curtisjackson5793 🤣
“ITS YOUR MUM!” The greatest Indirect yo mama joke in a movie scene
I never expected a black man saying that in a dramatic way....James Gunn knew damn well what he was doing.
I've never seen a yo mama joke being used as a motivational device. Respect to this movie 😂
Kinda feel it will be better if he actually said "it's yo MOMA" imo
I laughted so hard in that scene. So simple and yet, so on point
@@Lucifer-xf8bm nah the original is fuckin gold
James Gunn is really genuis, he make people sympathize about the raccoon, the tree, the girl who control the rat, the shark and the guy who throw polka dot at people.
Don't forget, even that giant kaiju starfish
That is why he is perfect to run the next wave of DC movies. The heroes in the DCEU were very hard to sympathize with and relate to. Characters most of us grew up watching in cartoons who were relatable and grounded despite their superhuman ability's. I think that was the main reason the DCEU failed where as the MCU worked so well. Stunning visuals does not make up for unrelatable characterizations of heroes we all love.
@@KILLCOLONIALISM I dare say I'm excited to see what the DCU will become if Superman: Legacy is a hit.
I'm so bummed that polka dot man didn't survive.
@@benjaminwright-rj9xcyeah but that’s the price we pay for a good film :(
I love how in the Peacemaker show we finally see why Peacemaker is so obsessed with peace.
Why
@@josho7138In the show White Dragon is his father, a white supremacist supervillain who raises both Peacemaker and his brothers to be aryan death machines and makes them constantly fight each other. After Peacemaker accidentally kills his brother in one such a fight, his father also develops a deep hatred and abusive behavior towards him. This makes Peacemaker reevalue his father's ideology, choosing to fight for peace instead. But he keeps the same methods and the same disregard for human life because he actually knows no better.
Exactly as Rick Flagg said: "Peacemaker, what a joke."
He's not a peace-loving man with some questionable methods, he's a deeply violent, abusive man, who chose "peace" as an excuse so that he can feel good about himself.
@@Posiman nuh uh
@@OneLefft that has to be the best counter argument i have ever seen
@@OneLefft uh huh
When you realise the reason why Rick, Harley, and boomerang were in the distraction team was because they made Waller mad in the last movie.
I still think killing boomerang off in the beginning was a bad choice, what a waste of a great character
Even the james gunn cant tell if this was a reboot or sequel *source imdb the suicide squad trivia
Are they confirmed as the distraction team? I dont see why Waller would put Flag, Quinn etc up for death. It also wouldnt make sense that she was angry that they were sold out, i think they were meant to meet up at some point but obviously couldnt. Seems like a waste of power.
@@walloper9972 by the looks of it, she mightve been aware of Rick's behaviour regarding the secret US involvement part and how he might expose it so maybe she wanted an "oops rick died in the battlefield" plan hence him being in the distraction team. But since he survived she had no choice but to order them to save him.
@@walloper9972 Well, it wasnt really a waste or power. Harley is just a person, not a super human, same with rick, same with boomer. On top of that, if we assume the last movie happened, they also were proven to be people that actively worked against the main plan, were unreliable. If the last movie didnt happen, than harley is a smart, but loose cannon, boomer doesnt offer much, and rick while a talented soldier, is still just a regular highly trained soldier, of which the military likely has plenty of, but still a leader and someone needed to lead an assualt. Nobody in group A really offered much in terms of power.
Group B however contained two people that were extra ordinary in terms of their lethality, but also very mission orientated people, with bloodsport having a unique and powerful arsenal to boot, and peacemaker being the one person waller knew would adhear to the mission, because they could frame the peace side of it. Thats his unique power that set him apart from bloodsport in the beginning when he said they are the same. They werent, Peacemaker would be utterly undetered by any factor to finishing his specific task, destroying evidence. Rat catcher had a versitile skill, and powerful, polkadot man had an insane offensive power, and shark daddy was basically a unstoppable force that could shore up their numbers issue, and to stupid to understand he couldnt have been stopped by waller himself. Squad B had all the actual power, both physical, supernatrual, and most importantly mentally. Squad A didnt have anyone, outside maybe savant, who was going to be able to be relied on to stick to the mission, to do what needed to be done, and not screw around. All of the crazy people or immature people were in squad A.
I'm just glad that King Shark has friends now.
yea i want to freinds with him too
NEW DUMB FRIENDS!
King Shark and Ratcatcher deserve their own thing
King shark is a shark.
Yes his hands. He was dumb and that is not king Shark. It is Groot shark. 😂
I thought Harley's portrayal in the film was pretty accurate - in her own crazy way, she strikes a balance between her intentions and her emotions which is reflected in how she fights and when she chooses to fight back.
She acted impulsively at first - but after killing the dictator and being tortured for a while, she killed everyone using her skills which she clearly has been honing well - in terms of combat experience, she's up there with Flag and Peacemaker. She can strategise but she can also improvise- the wild card element works very well for Harley.
Besides that, this movie was a really good story in itself, despite many characters dying early on - the movie made us care about the characters it simultaneously introduced and Flag's death hit hard, not to mention how devastating it was to lose Polka Dot Man.
Plus, yeah, Ratcatcher 2 had the best backstory and her friendship with Bloodsport was simply natural and wholesome.
The sense of actual danger was what made it a good suicide squad movie. When they killed the first team you knew it was going to get real, and they weren't scared of killing characters we actually like and know later on.
@@Tom_Cruise_Missile to add on to your point, I felt that after a while you get comfortable and start thinking no one will die/ no one more will die, only to be corrected in a relatively crushing way. You stop expecting characters to die and let yourself get attached, only for them to die in such a reasonable way you can’t even contest it, making each death have an impact
2016: suicidal squad
2020: sacrifice squad
I remember watching this with my boyfriend (who had already seen the film) and I told him beforehand who I thought would live and die. He told me that Polka-Dot Man didn’t die, and I believed him since he showed up in the climax, so you can imagine my pain when he dies in such a shocking way.
Honestly, that's the best spoilerbait that he can tell you. The film really wants us to root for polkadot
Polkadot Man screaming “I’M A SUPERHERO!” Is better then any line of dialogue from the 2016 Suicide Squad.
I almost fell into depression when he died
Too bad the box office numbers doesn't reflect this.
@@clintjefferson4391 COVID my guy. Suicide squad wasn’t the only film to suffer because of it. Plus because of hbo max most just watched it at home for free so going to the theater seemed pointless.
Yesssssss
you don’t want no beef?
They made me genuinely care about someone named "the Polka Dot Man", that alone is a huge win
Coincidentally his actor has a skin condition where he forms spots on his skin.
Just not as colorful though.
It made me feel sorry for a giant starfish space monster.
You should look into Kite man, Hell Yeah!
@@Gr3nadgr3gory I get the reference
So like, what? He just throws polka dots?
The sequel is also just straight up more visually pleasing to look at
Is it though?
@@messy_watercolorsyeah this is one of the most visually stunning superheroes movies to date right now (apart from INSTV & ATSV). The movie is very colorful yet grounded to create a comic book in live action (in terms of style like with the title cards for the next sequence)
@@JustAguy006 it isn’t pleasing to look at though, let’s be honest
@@messy_watercolors how though? Compare it to Synder movies and the dullness of MCU, this is night and day
@@JustAguy006 it’s just disgusting and disturbing.
Polka Dot man is the best. He's such a unique character. And David Dastmalchian is such a great actor he's so underrated.
Harley specifically said to watch out for red flags and that killing children is a huge red flag, Peacemaker literally said kill children for peace and that should've hinted about his betrayal early on.
What makes that even better is that Harley Quinn wasn't even around to hear him when he said that so there is no contradiction in character while still giving us, the audience the hint.
Oh shit!
Oh shit!
technically flag and rat girl betrayed him if you think ab it
@@TyrziR6S Not really, he betrayed them
Polka-Dot Man's death was really sad (and also sudden) for me because the entire film he basically had PTSD of the horrible stuff his mum did, and the fact he didn't like killing people unless he imagined them as his mum. So for him to fight Starro, and save innocent lives, and then shout "I'M A SUPERHERO!" Only to die all of a sudden was quite heart breaking
+Benny0033 I know! His and Rick Flagg’s deaths DEVASTATED me. 🥺😭
I cried so much at his death, and will constantly hope for him to return somehow in a future film. Likely won't happen, but I really wanted to see him after his big moment. Would he still be able to kill people? Have his issues been completely tackled? So many things.
I feel that he was hoping to die as he said earlier in the film since he’s so tortured from his past, but I found it poetically satisfying that he died probably the happiest he’s been in decades. That way he knew he went out a hero, saving the day with his newfound friends by his side
SAME like the smile on my face never returned after his death. It just felt like it was mostly for shock value. Even though i understand that it's realistically likely bc his arc was practically finished, I would've loved to see him develop even more to where he sees his mom less and less or something. Polka dot man deserved better :'(
I agree, I loved his character and wanted him to survive so badly :( the fact that I’m saying this about POLKA DOT MAN is a testament to how great this movie is
I watched this movie on a plane thinking it was the original and being extremely confused when I heard everyone disliked it and even more so when they were upset with Jared leto’s role until the very end of the movie when I realized that I was watching a different movie entirely
i think it should be noted that deathstroke doesnt neccessarily want to seperate from his daughter because he's a lone wolf type, but more on because he doesn't want his daughter to associate with someone like him. this is shown in how he tries to actively push away his daughter by making it seem like he didnt care about her being a criminal (or, at least, attempting to be one), just that she got caught. he wants her to see him as a horrible person because he thinks that of himself and believes himself to not be worth his daughter, AND he shows that he *does* care for her when he tried to kill amanda waller when she threatened his daughter.
It dies other stuff!!!
I thought Harley Quinn's escape showed off that her "normal" behaviour was mostly just an act and that she is actually super clever (like we all know she is). In my eyes they somewhat did the correct "Jack Sparrow thing" with her in this one.
But shes actually crazy, its not supposed to be an act. Shes an actual insane person who just happens to have big brain
@@nomnommoon1001 In the animated show it's like she has a split-personality, and while she mostly does random shit, when she does listen to her psychologist side, she does some pretty well planned stuff. Her gymnastics abilities are shown pretty much everywhere so it's not something that isn't apparent.
@@bbittercoffee Yeah the scene where she does a 200+lb weighted pullup to kill that guy was pretty insane
@@nomnommoon1001 Thing is that, even if she's actually insane, she's still quite inteligent and has had many moments in the comics where she actually plans or shows that she can be normal.
That scene felt unnecessarily dragged out and it just made the soldiers look incompetent.
I literally almost cried when King Shark was alone in the van, and then again when he found his "friends" in the tank.
Same!! I think it really helped that they established his loneliness when he was people watching in the van, and I think he focused on the kissing couple. Shit hit hard. I hope we get a sequel where they're all living happy lives and stuff, or an epilogue.
The tank scene was gut wrenching. He was so happy to find other creatures who were like him.
@@salazarmartell feeling an emotion and even sadness isn’t baby like. It’s human like.
@@salazarmartell yes hating on people for enjoying something that you didn't care is sign of "matureness"
@@salazarmartell the bait level here is high, tryna get a rise outta people for nothing more than "Internet Clout"
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Excuse me sir, but only peace remains when the Peacemaker finishes peacemaking.
The build up of pokadot man’s mom up to his death scene where he imagines staro as his mum and “it’s your mom!!!!”. Is one of the best things in this film
Easy answer, the editors didn’t fuck over the film, the director actually cared, and the actors really enjoy their characters. All that needs to be said
I love Will Smith, but I hope he doesnt come back, Idris Elba did a much better job (because yes, they are basically playing the same character)
@@Jose-se9pu I love Will Smith too. But Idris Elba is a far better actor than Smith.
All that needs to be said is that failure isn't the end, nor is it always a bad thing.
@Cristo Alba well thats why I said the editors fucked him over as well but at the same time the movie even if re edited maybe could have been alright but their story regardless was all over the place
It wasn’t the director’s fault.
Another thing that adds to Peacemaker’s character is that you can tell he doesn’t want to kill Rick Flag or Ratcatcher. That inner conflict adds a lot to his character, since he cherishes peace, but he’s also grown to cherish his teammates
yes he does he goes out of his way to do it
@@rivers3673 still tho, he hesitated a bit, which shows tht he didn't want to. Unlike when he was attacking the refugee camp, dude had no second thoughts
I agree. And its one of the many nuances that I really appreciated about how this movie treated its characters and their individual arcs. Everyone develops as the story moves along….except Harley, but shes psychotic so all is well. Lol.
He doesn’t kill either of them tho
@@zachwuensch4023 what? He killed Rick. After credit scene on the bad was Peacemaker not Rick...
It’s sad that The Original Suicide Squad made almost 7x more money than the better one
Tbh the original one’s marketing was on another level and also this movie was for the streaming service as opposed to something making money at theatres.
@@Oddgamer0917Yeah, the marketing for the first one was insane (there were even music collabs like Purple Lambo and shit).
"It's not about money, it's about sending a message".
Even Waller was completely different from Suicide Squad (2016), she literally was this cold control freak but then, when she lost it, she completely freaked out and was pretty emotional, not what she seemed to be, for example, when she first killed Savant.
Milton had the best character arc. He started as a scared and fidgety bus driver and over the movie bonded with the squad and helped them on every mission. His confidence sky rocked and he seemed so happy to be helping plant the bombs. Then he died.
Wait who's Milton?
@@najibbasirun Its Bloodsport's name, Duh! They had a whole three hour conversation about it!
Wait what? I thought he stayed in the bus?
I think I would've remembered if there was someone named Milton in that movie...
@@najibbasirun He was the contact at the club
Polkadot mans emotive sadness at the disrespect shown towards his fallen friend Milton was perfect...and truly made me sad that he had to die.
I really hope that they killed him because he would have just destroyed Starro in 30 seconds instead of it being for a quick laugh.
@@chaoticgoodcreations947 if you are talking about polkadot, and not milton, i believe it was, since the movie started i knew only two of them could actually hurt starro, polkadot and ratcatcher, they killed him so ratcatcher could finished the job, not only in a way that was epic, as he would do, but also gross, which fits the movie perfectly, specially because like taika said, rats are despised by everyone but they also noble
well said man.
Who's Milton?
@@justinamerican8200 Blood sports real name
Starro's last line really flipped the feeling of the whole ending for me
I always interpreted Harley's emotionally driven efficacy being pretty reasonable. I mean she has the raw intelect to be effective, as she clearly wasn't just knowledgable but genuinely inteligent which would explain her being really effective, but Joker then kind of mindwashing her was never written as him literally overwriting her personality or mind, just changing it. By that measure having her be emotionally motivated but extremely detatched while still being extremely effective. Similarly from a writing perspective having her be both fickle and deadly makes her just excellent at preventing predictability in a way that makes sense. Harley as a character has never been about 4d chess sort of prediction or logic, that's, like her entire character, it's someone who was smart but more on edge than she let on and that was then coaxed out by the joker.
I found it interesting how emotive Polkadot man got at Milton's death, and how everyone else either didn't know who he was or didn't realise he was with them, even though Polkadot man should LITERALLY have the hardest remembering and recognising people. Goes to show how much he cared
Or maybe that was the joke?
Gunn himself said that PDM didn't so much care for Milton as he simply saw an opportunity to wallow in self-pity like he's prone to do
@@Bombill source?
(Never have i thought that i would use that word)
Lern 2 rite Engleesh!
i was laughing of the whole scene, in fact i was like harley quinn "who's milton?" ohhhh that guy!
I laughed when I too realized too late Milton was still with them trying to help out. It happened so naturally and when the film pointed out he’s dead I too reacted like Bloodsport like “yo wtf was he still doing here”
Right? Like he completely faded into the back of my mind. They played a damn good trick with that sudden death, made all the better by everyone except Polka Dot Man freaking out about his death.
@@stabbykinz1446 you mean only polka dot man only freaked out that he died, everyone else was like: “Who died?”
Who's Milton?
Milton was one of the rebel soldier guys driving the Suicide Squad to the base where Starro was. For some reason, he kept following them in the tower.
I was kinda shocked that he followed, even pointed it out to my bro that Milton is in the rain slow mo scene 🤣🤣🤣
This video really made me think about how much point of view in a movie(story) can impact it.
Well, the answer is actually quite simple: WB really intervened with the "David Ayer" Suicide Squad, and heavily altered the movie. When James Gunn got kicked out at Marvel, however, DC and WB greeted him with open arms, and they gave him complete creative freedom to do whatever the hell James Gunn wanted.
One of the things I don't think people are talking enough about is just how damn *good* Cena's acting was in this. When he kills Rick Flagg, you can _see_ that he's hurting, and _feel_ that he knows that this simply isn't right. That's not something you often get in movies like these, so it's fantastic to see him bring a more nuanced take to this... and I now cannot *wait* for his new HBO Max show.
He gives a little lip quiver when he is about to kill RatCatcher and she is begging him not to. He isn't completely heartless. He actually has a moral center, to him at least, even if it is fucked up and completely misguided.
Totally, he had this conflicted look on his face when he was about to kill Flag and Ratcatcher.
Lao gan ma
Yeah, peacemaker is just like he said, he will do anything for peace. No matter how much sacrifice he did need.
@@muhammadsaduddin308 I've got serious w40k vibes from this.
2:20 they're all running in straight lines, down tight corridors. It'll be hard to miss
This is probably the most well-made videos I've seen in a few years! Amazing job with the editing and audio choices!!! 10/5 stars
This is one of the few movies where John Cena actually feels like a Character and not just a meme
He still has some meme moments, but otherwise, he feels like an amazing character
Completely forgot it was john cena he does great
John Cena was in this movie?? where i couldnt see him
@@HeroOfJusticeYT
stop
A bit of both
I like how the main Plot Twist was Milton staying with them the whole time.
Milton: siiiiii
who tf is milton?
@@davidkim3518 BFF of Polka Dotman lol. He was their driver.
@@johnjohn-bz8kb you mean bloodsport?
@@davidkim3518 Milton. He was with us, THE WHOLE TIME
This editing is crazy. Nice vid bro!
I love this RUclipsr editing filled with memes. You got a subs.
I honestly have no idea how James Gunn managed to juggle and fit character development through so many multiple different characters at once on such a short movie, it's amazing. I guess his experience with the MCU helped quite a bit.
Naw it's just his schtick.
I mean guardians of the galaxy
I agree sm dawg he’s too great it’s crazy how genius this movie is
Made easier when he killed off half the squad immediately 😂
@@florencejohnpaclibar.1b872 well the movie IS called suicide squad. R.i.p. Rick flag though
"I was happy... floating... starring at the stars" This broke my heart :(
That line right there gives starro more depth. Bc he just wanted to be left alone until humans discovered him and then keep him locked up in a secret bunker.
i mean, kinda his own damn fault for trying to take over the planet like a stereotypical 50’s alien, he seemed smart enough to negotiate.
@@carlwheezerofsouls3273 Yea that's true
@@carlwheezerofsouls3273
I’d take over too if mf’s kept me under for how many years, lemme get my revenge
@@Orchidlettux and kill the innocent people that have nothing to do with it?
You are ridiculously smart how u broke down the right way to tell a story 10 out of 10👏👏
Your editing is so good.
I rewatch your videos all the time
Im a year late but me too
The attention to detail sprinkled throughout The Suicide Squad is amazing. For example, Savant is in prison due to Black Canary arresting him so the opening scene where he kills a canary is symbolic to his hatred and wanting for vengeance. Then when he eventually dies as his remains drift along the water, a canary can be seen eating his brains (again symbolic of his inevitable failure as a d-list villain). Just 👌🏾👌🏾
Not to mention Savant first appeared in the Birds of Prey comics as well.
@@epicgamerhank9509 As a big fan of Gail Simone’s Birds of Prey run I was really hoping we’d see Savant do more cool stuff in this movie, but I’d be lying if I said his death wasn’t hilarious
That scene works in two ways actually, as a metaphor for his hatred of Black Canary and as another metaphor for his desire of freedom, after all Birds are always related to freedom, and him killing it express both his desire and why he is incarcerated. Another canary eating his remains is just an expression of his vicious cycle of encarceration for his actions.
So Canary is indirectly responsible for his death
I totally forgot that was _the_ Savant from the Birds of Prey comics.
“if rats have purpose so do we all” my favourite line from the movie
Yeah but...what's a rats purpose tho?
@@st4ne4rmthevill63 eat everything that Looks delicious
@@st4ne4rmthevill63 Have you seen Avengers: Endgame?
@@fegeleinherman8587 "Maybe I am a rat...."
@@st4ne4rmthevill63 he gives them a purpose, he's explaining why remember.
Standing up to Amanda Waller is the biggest amount of character development a non main character can get.
Very good analysis! Thank you!
Poka Dot Man's entire character arc is an excuse for James Gunn to make a yo mama joke at the end
10/10 film
"We do a little trolling"
i laughed my ass off a that scene just because of the absurdity of the whole set up and payoff
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Idris elba with accent "Its ur mom" EMOTIONAL DAMAGE TO THE MUM I mean that star fish was ugly as the goons in the first movie
I think another small detail that makes this movie so good is that when the team considers getting rid of King Shark, Waller tells them that he is the strongest member of the team, when in reality the strongest member is obviously Polka-Dot Man. Remember, King Shark has bulletproof skin. This means they had no way of putting that bomb in his neck. In the comics, this was solved with a belt that was meant to do the same however it failed. By telling the team that King Shark is necessary and they shouldn't ditch him, Waller was making sure they didn't anger the only team member they had no plan for stopping. Luckily, King Shark is an idiot who didn't know that not everyone liked him on the team so he never decided to get angry except for the time when Bloodsport shot at him. This detail really made me realize Waller is a genius and not just the mean lady telling the protagonists what to do.
Don't underestimate the wall.
I love how people come up with ways to contain characters that can’t be contained in standard ways. Like, you could have a boring “here is a way to completely deactivate whatever makes them hard to contain in the first place” but you could have the “we designed something specific to this uncontainable character.”
With the SCP universe, you get a mix of both. It’s always more interesting to actually problem solve than use writer divine will.
Holy; this made me see things from a new perspective
I dont know, i think nanaue is the strongest member, he got eaten by alien Jellyfish, which nobody else in the movie would survive, then a enormous building crashed on him, an entire army shot at him, and he got yeeted in a skyscraper by a gigant starfish. And he walks away like it was nothing. I dont think polka would even scratch him. Also polka is dead, nanaue not. Ratcatcher 2 is maybe on his power level. I dont care about my grammar you see the point.
@@gnumpf1248 nanaue is strong but he has the benefit of high durability and bulletproof skin, not dissimilar to starro's durability (resistant to bloodshots arsenal). polka dot man's pure destructive power is crazy, that incendiary-like attack ate through starro's leg. it would do a lot worse to nanaue.
Ok, your song choices are s tier, turbonegro fit wayyy too well
I love how Never Forget from Halo 3 plays at emotional scenes in this video
I would like to see an alternate version where the story is told as if Polka Dot was the main character, thus every other character appeared to be his mom while he is present throughout the film. Funniest parts for me.
The name of the film, "the suicide squad: its your mom edition"
@@johnward2101 joe edition
Yo Mamma Edition
Joe Mama 😳😳 Edition
I told my friend,” I can’t wait to see the Mom Cut.”
It actually makes me sad to see king shark have no friends throughout the movie.. it’s like he’s accepted it, you can see it when his sitting in the van by himself.. god this movie is great. Good thing he found people who care about him at the end.
This movie looks horrible from the trailer. Looks even worse than the first one
He fucking ate them all lmao
@@amazin2point0 okay? lol
@amazin2point0 It's actually quite competent and coherent, while more properly adhering to the premise that the characters are part of a "suicide squad". You're free to disagree, but I'd recommend giving it a shot first.
@@amazin2point0 I didn't see the first one or birds of prey but I checked this one out, it's pretty decent. A fresh take for a DCU
Lol Harley is not dumb she just knows how to use people's prejudice against them. Them thinking she's a giggly dumb blonde makes it very convenient for her to handle them. She also a supremely self confident character and knows what she likes and what she doesn't and goes out and gets it. One of the best Harley Quinn representations here.
Yeah, but the movie exactly makes her just like this video describe her
@Scylla If you just take the surface level then yes but not if you read in-between the lines
OMG, thank you! I thought because it failed in the box office I was crazy for liking it over the original. But many people tend to agree.
also peacemakers helmet is this beaken of light that you would expect of a superhero, but when peacemaker betrays them, his helmet is knocked of, revealing who he really is. a "the ends justify the means" kinda person
That is an interesting way of spelling "Beacon".
His helmet is knocked off revealing who he really is. John Cena
@@FlimsyAcorn2722 that kinda explains why a floating hero suit and helmet was part of the team
There's also the reveal of his true role in the team. Remember how Bloodsport was baffled at Waller's weird inconsistency of varied team skills when describing Peacemaker's identical background and skillset to him? Peacemaker was never a member of the team; he was the enforcer put in to ensure Waller's bidding was done no matter what. It never mattered what skills he brought to the team's success; only what skills he had in case he needed to eliminate members of the team.
Also, Peacemaker has no shympathy towards the team whenever the other team members told their sad backstories while Bloodsports feel sorry for them. Really shows his true character is from the beginning. He's just a total hypocrite selfish douchebag who doesn't care of the others and only wants to do it himself.
I think it’s pretty clear Harley plays dumb. You can see where she shows her true brilliance. Even for a split second where she yells “No!” to Abner when he’s about to shoot his polka dots because she knew he’d hit the bombs.
Also in the torture scene, even through all of the pain she was receiving, She was still calculating enough to be able to make a plan to escape and carry out that plan
Right?!
Badly they didn't portrayed this in the birds of prey movie and only called it pure luck
@@lazinessincarnate9442 Exactly.
@@refourth8314 Ikr?!
Awesome explanation my friend
Bruh, Frodo and Gandalf contrast got me so good. That Johnny Ca$h song was such a good choice XD
The sad truth is James Gunn is not necessarily a "visionary genius
He's literally just a guy who actually read the comic books as a kid or teen - & then grew up to find a voice in cinema, so added layers of horror, comedy and legit pathos, without disrespecting the original source material I the process.
This is why he chose the Suicide Squad over Superman.
He'd have the freedom to define these characters, which as a comics reader - he Knows have only been loosely defined on the page.
And he listens to the audience
Reading the comics alone doesn't make you a good director, James Gunn is overall a great director that knows what the audience wants, period.
He respect the source material and knows what the audience want, so he's good in my books.
If you wanna see an original idea by him, check out his directorial debut with 2006's Slither. It's batshit insane.
He touches kids
he's still a visionary genius. he's a director AND a fan of the comics lmaoo
Is no one talking about rat catcher 2? she was the heart of the film and stole almost every scene she was in
For the first time i actually cared about the squad
@Anime- Eri Yes Nanaue. The film has been released. Very good
Stole? Really?
She was the best one in the film
@@Elamado97 personally I think that would’ve of taken away from the comedic path This movie went on because rats ultimately ending something is ridiculous anyway imo
I haven't seen it yet, but your video makes me really want to
best added sound effects ive seen in a youtube video
Peacemaker and bloodsport has a better relationship than harley and joker in suicide squad.
but joker got just 7 minutes of screen time and most of his scenes were changed so it is not fair to compare
For suuuuure
@@sarkastikcommander4555 Sorry, bro, but until WB releases the Ayers Cut, the movie we got is the movie we got and it was a poorly executed movie. Criticizing that isn't somehow a moot point just because we know there are other scenes on the cutting room floor.
Besides that point, the scenes we got are terrible anyway. Giving Harley to some random gangster to sleep with? What kinda fake edgy crap is that? That has nothing to do with the characterization of the Joker or Harley Quinn. When Harley was introduced in a CARTOON, the Joker would throw her around for successfully capturing Batman and trying to remove his mask, or for over-explaining a joke. In the comics, Harley disappear for months in-story and when she returned, he was so engrossed in planning his latest scheme that he hadn't noticed she'd isolated from the crime world for a few months to GIVE BIRTH TO THEIR DAUGHTER.
THAT'S Harley Quinn. That's the story we sympathized with and the woman we wanted to see saved from the Joker. I don't know what that "hubba hubba" bullshit was in that movie, but it wasn't Harley and Mr. J.
@@Cityweaver i think that movie is beyond salvage even with the Ayer cut.
Savant and Captain Boomerang have a better relationship than Harley and Joker in suicide squad
Every time I think of the "Batman beating Deashot in front of his daughter" scene from the original, I can't help but think it would have been much more in character for Batman to be stalking them, from a position where only Deadshot can spot him. It may ruin the ambush, but I think it fits him much more to wait until the kid is out of the picture and give a father the chance to say goodbye to his daughter.
Absolutely
Yeah it was stupid, all because Will smith wanted a sympathetic character, but i think bloodsport did a much better job and you actually wanted things to work out with him and his daughter
@@erievhs I absolutely adore that they actually subverted the typical "villain that happens to be a good and loving dad" thing. You can tell he didn't want to be a father and isn't ready, but the care and potential to be a good dad is there. It ties wonderfully into how Bloodsport develops and coming off as heroic to his daughter in the end feels much more rewarding.
God, this movie did so much right. It's no a masterpiece or a movie that changes cinema as a whole. But it makes you leave the cinema with a smile and saying "that was such a good fucking movie".
There is a scene specifically in BTAS where he is about to attack a criminal in an alleyway, but then sees the criminal’s son and it causes him to pause and think of himself as a boy in that alleyway. He chooses to wait until the criminal is alone again.
Though I suppose it’s more in line with Snyder’s BatPunisher to just not give a shit.
@@evafox9696 "Oh boy, criminals in car. I could force them to stop... Orrrrr..."
*click* *HEAVY MACHINE-GUN*
Smart review, really enjoyed and made me appreciate the movie even more
I didn't like that boomerang man got killed at the beginning of the movie. Dudes pure comic gold and he's like a quarter of the team everytime he shows up.
#JusticeForTheBoomerangMan
Peacemaker on that sigma mindset, "Attain peace by killing everyone"
truly a role model we should all look up to.
a man of culture
A man worthy of respect.
There Will be no Chaos if there isn't anyone left to cause it
Thanos is a humanitarian in compaerison.
Eren Yeager: *noted*
When Ratcatcher 2 was first introduced, I was like “Who? What does she do, control rats? At least I know the actors who play these other characters I’ve never heard of.” and by the end I was like “If Cleo dies I will riot in the streets. She is my favorite superhero.”
I was scared when Peacemaker wanted to kill her but luckily, she got saved by Bloodsport. Never thought in my life, I would ever shympathize by a girl who can control rats, a guy who can shot Polkadot and a hybrid Shark Man.
Im more of a marvel person, so i dont know a lot of characters on DC, but like shang-chi i absolutely have no clue who they are but i just watch the movie anyway, and i love seeing new likeable characters like Rat catcher 2, king shark, blood sport and pokedotman
Same here, my new favourite DC Hero
Cleo dies? Eh, I'll move on.
*SEBASTION* dies?!! I will literally pay Flula Borg to violate James Gunn with his javelin.
Yea that’s what movies used to be like, you get introduced to a character and then throughout the movie you come to understand and care for them. Now you just clap when you see your favourite celebrity on screen.
i really love how when he does become the leader and give orders, he does so in ways that the people he’s giving orders to would truly understand, he knows them and what they need for motivation and instruction instead of just giving basic orders and having everyone listen
I just gotta say man, James Gunn has really come a long way since writing Scooby-Doo 2: Monsters Unleashed
He's really grown & learned a lot on how to do good storytelling in movies
Look at him now - he's now the Kevin Feige of DC cinema
"You see who that is? IT'S YOUR MOOOMMM"
This is probably the least offensive "your mom" line.
But I prefer the classics. Titus Andronicus, Act 4, Scene 2: "CHIRON: Thou hast undone our mother. AARON: Villain, I have done thy mother."
For context- Shakespeare had a Maurie Show/Jerry Springer situation in his play.
@@lemeres2478 LOL what?! nah, this one was done better.
@@Gadget-Walkmen same, I perfer the suicide squad instead, not what the other guy said.
@@lemeres2478 oh the most appropriate "I Fed your Mom" line
I actually just appreciated that Harley quinn wasn't as sexualized
She's still badass
Still dresses feminine
But she doesn't look like a blatant sex symbol
Yea, that's why I love Harley in the newer version. She has much more depth and complexity.
@@roa3432 I think they're also starting to display some of her better personality
Not all of it of course
Some people still liked that first suicide squad Harley
Beta male lol
@@roa3432 are you a woman or gay?
Also, her red and black costume is a nod to her original version in Batman: The Animated Series and Arkham City games. I personally like this costume than her "Daddy's Little Monster" costume all the way.
In 2016 SS, we saw a glimpse of her original costume when she got it on airport but didn't want to wear it and on flashback when she danced with the Joker.
thank you for the video i guess i will finally check the movie out after passing on it like all the other super hero movies that recently came out
Peacemaker in his series actually gets really good character development and we get to see why he is the way he is.
He’s genuinely the only reason why I’m enjoying the series. Everything else within the series is just unnecessary jokey and weird. They made it so every single person is this rude and weird asshole that’s within a world that’s unnecessarily dark and gruesome.
Crude jokes with dark themes does work… but it’s just not my “cup of tea” as people say.
Dude every single character on the show was brilliant especially Peacemaker and Vigilante.
@@ayeskidman9269
Yes… if you really enjoy crude humour and everyone being weird assholes.
If u do good for u. There’s nothing wrong with that.
I just personally don’t enjoy those types of things.
@@coldermusic2729
Yeah they’ve all got an assholishness to them (well not all but most) but they are also all still very much so individuals with unique personalities and they all go through real growth. The show is well put together and interesting alongside being fucking hysterical. I love peacemaker, one of the best things Dc has done in a long time
The series really showed how he just wanted 2 please his dad
I hear nobody talking about the great score, especially 'Ratism' at the end is incredibly awesome and emotional
Yeah. And the king shark music when he meets the jellies
LITERALLY, one of my favourite songs rn
You meam racism? They replaced Will Smith with a black guy because all black people act and look like
Ngl opening with folsom prison blues, I loved the film immediately
John Murphy is the man
Idk why, but Bloodsport screaming "Its ur mom" never gets old.
6th graders on a field-trip at the zoo "Its ur mom"
"You see who that is? IT'S YOUR MOOOOOM!"
Polkadot man's mom legit looks like my manager.
The movie didn’t take itself serious like the other one did. I literally couldn’t stop laughing.
Edit: Milton was the best because you don’t see him really unless you look. But that he came to help and it’s a group of freaks but one normal dude. Then him dying and later Harley calling Bloodsport Milton
But even though it was funny, I cared about the characters so much more.
yh agreed this new one was more comedy and the other one was more action
That’s what suicide squad should be
@@salazarmartell I never watched the first one but I loved this one
@@salazarmartell no, I just proved your point wrong. This is a soft reboot anyway and have no direct connection to the first
"Daddy, I know you do bad things. That's ok. I still love CAPTAIN BOOMERANG."
We heard it the first time
"Looks like I need to do some bad things to that damn Aussie."
"No Daddy, I love him"
@@elfascisto6549 You must have a pretty sad life, my dude
@@elfascisto6549 And you'll hear it again.
11:00 So blood sport pay attention to Kenobi’s lessons.
i love the parts with the slowed downed effects sounds
Really? I think it becomes pretty unfunny after he uses it for like the 10th time.
The only thing I would argue with this video about is the impact of Amanda Waller. I found her character quite compelling in the 2021 remake. While she started calm and in control, she became more extreme and more intense as time went on and the stakes rose. I enjoyed watching that progress. I think it was crucial for keeping the tension high throughout the movie
She's in the movie because she's supposed to show that she's just as much of a psychopath as these villains are, and how people running the government or jails can be just as twisted as those they preside over on the other side of the bars.
@@stevenborg102 Yeah and so 'not showing her motivations' has a purpose, it makes her choice in the end (for the team to not get involved in the rescue mission) even more absurd and pitiful.
It did a great job of making her fucked up. How she was totally willing to rig the court system so Bloodshot’s 14 year old daughter was put into an adult maximum security prison in the south, and her absolute ruthlessness when killing savant even though her goal of distracting the enemy had already been accomplished. Made the payoff of her getting knocked out all the more satisfying
Yeah I completely agree with your point. Also the fact Peacemaker and Waller have the same ideology. Peace at any means. Well PM ideology is more for comedic purposes. Waller shows how scary it can actually be.
Yeah I completely agree with your point. Also the fact Peacemaker and her have the same ideology. Peace at any means. Well PM ideology is more for comic purposes. Waller shows how scary it can actually be.
That ironic contrast you were talking about in peacemaker, it seemed similar to the reversal method you talked about in ' into the spider verse ' where (for example) kingpin is memorable because he is huge but actually a sad little man on the inside
Nice catch! Thanks for watching!
The "ironic contrast" is often used in Comics. The original X-men are good examples.
Iceman is hot-blooded. Nightcrawler is a devout christian. The beast is really smart, and so on...
@@diersteinjulien6773 That's a really good point, I don't know why that hadn't been more obvious to me. Going to look back through a lot of my favorite characters now and see how many that holds true for.
@@Filmento Y'know, another reversal I think you mentioned in a different video is Baldur from God of War.
Expectation - Weak Random Guy challenges Brute Force Man.
Reality - Turns out they're both equally matched.
@@Filmento Of course, excuse me for my "subjective opinion", but as for me, the second "Detachment" is also far from being an amateur.
Too much controversial humor, scenes with mother Pea evoked a wild krynge in me, Bloodsport is a copy of Dadshot, Harley no longer delivers, Boomerang was leaked and normal Persians here once again had a Rat Trap.
Why is the Thinker here, if instead of him it was possible to slap a rondom scientist with a fool, even in the series "Flash" from The CW, and then they showed him much better (although later they were leaked at the end).
Anyway, they should have made a squad like in the animated film "Batman: Attack on Arkham" where the characters were not exaggerated pranksters, but rather vicious, immoral and even slightly depraved personalities who were barely warm to each other and were ready to throw at the first opportunity.
And the atmosphere was gloomy but a bit light with a pinch of black humor and no kinks in thrash, but instead they made a cross between the first "Squad", "Legends of Tomorrow" from the aforementioned The CW and "Doom Patrol" spiced by "Guardians of the Galaxy".
#ReleaseTheAyercut
The Cr1t1kal edit at 11:29 is awesome.
The main thin they nailed with this movie that it was really funny. The dark humour and irony really landed and they also gave a good balance of crazy to Harley as well. Nom Nom and ratatouille were the best
2016 Suicide Squad: Edgelord "humour" and Will Smith being Will Smith in Deadshot cosplay.
2021 The Suicide Squad: Actual humour and all the characters being allowed to be characters.
Really? The movie looks crap from the trailer and even worse than the first one
@@amazin2point0 that your only point?
The Suicide Squad is not really that good, to be honest...
@@thedoomwader my point is that I’m surprised he thinks so because from the trailer it looks like it’ll just be some crap cram jokes in movies and looks like it would be worse than the first which wasn’t that great as it is
@@amazin2point0 but did you see it?
I was aware Milton was with the group since the beginning of the final assault, and I was like 'huh he is gonna survive this as a joke for sure', but then he died and that was the biggest gut punch on this movie for me right after Polka Dot Man's death
Fr, I didn’t expect anything but damn :(
I have to laugh every time I read "Polka Dot Man" in the comments
It was obvious he was with them because he was in the slow motion line shot when they approached the building. It was then that I asked: "why is he with them?" Afterwards, I thought he would just be a guy trying to help but doing nothing since he is a regular guy. Bloodsport is acting like the audience because us, he audience, never see Milton or have him mentioned again until his death. Clearly the others should have known he was with them the entire time because it was only the four of them.
there is one mistake the Warner made in the 2016 Suicide Squad: Warner had too much creative control and they rushed it to make it look like Deadpool, they learned their lesson by giving all production control and 100% of creative control to James Gunn (he took his time, he decided to make production go smoothly, which made a film that nearly the entire DC fanbase loves)
I love how was inproved in his own series rather than in the movie, makes sense for the story and character
The opening scene on the beach really SHOCKED ME. It's so intense, and urgent, and all of a sudden, hell breaks lose and I wasn't ready for it. Gunn's direction is amazing, here.
In what way was his direction different than any average action scene.
it really gives you everything; the premise, the stakes, how lowly waller / the institution thinks of the squad, WHY its a *suicide* squad... its so snappy, zero bs exposition about "superman storming the pentagon", brilliant!
@@michiel1162 you don't expect the entire squad of stablished characters to just die painfully in the first minutes of the movie.
@@michiel1162 you start the movie with most of the characters dying, doesn’t happen much in movies
Lynne Ashe, AKA Polka-dot man's mom is the unsung hero of the movie. What a great five-dozen performances.
Do you know if she did ALL of those things shown in the movie or if it was just a special effect? I was so impressed by her performance that I barely noticed the "Yo mama" joke.
@@bbittercoffee It reminds me a lot of Deep Roy's performance in "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" as... every oompa loompa. In that case I think they took the actor's performances and used digital compositing to effectively multiply them. In this movie there were definitely some effects done to some of the composites, like the King Shark mom, but I would expect them to have all been performed by Lynne Ashe.
TRUE!
Amazing video, liked and subscribed. 👏
To be honest, I hope rat catcher 2 gets her own movie. Because an actress like her is able to carry her own movie.
Extra post for this: Cena's acting in this was incredible.
Wait what he was in the movie? Where?
Idk I just heard a ghost saying he wants peace or something
Idek who they were talking about the whole movie 🤷🏽♀️ like I see nothing there but just walls
I liked his performance, it felt straight, Professional and well delivered, while being kind of light, cheesy and sort of depleted of emotions, which all overall perfectly fit Peacemaker as a sicko he is
Very important thing to notice. Usually when celebrities like that are put into movies, they are on secondary roles as cheap comic relief. I am impressed that Cena actually manged to play a central character with the full depth and skill that the character deserved.