It’s always interesting when they say the Yamaha has the hardest hitting power, most power, most pull etc when on the dyno it’s significantly less Hp and torque than the ktm trio only slightly more than the Honda which is classed as slow. Never under stood this, I rode a pipe and ecu tune 22 a fully stock 23 yam and wasn’t overwhelmed with the “hit” or pull more of a sound effect than anything, but I am coming from a stock 350 and ktm 250, suspension wise i agree it was good and stable, brilliant fork.
@@vaughanhodgson it really isn’t even tho I may feel that way off the bottom it’s actually 1 fltb down at 2k and 2ftlb down at 4k about the same at 6k and a further ftlb down at 8k 23 vs 23 and since then heavier chain on the 24 yam it’ll be down on ftlbs again
I just wish that Suzuki would up their game with an e-start and so on. I´m not a Suzuki fan, but have two of those in my garage. Five other bikes as well.. I ride a 350 KTM usually, but it would be an interesting test if my lap times would be better on a 2013 250 Suzuki or my 2021 350 KTM. Suzuki does not have the power of the 350, but I´m an amateur/vet rider, and I like the Suzuki a lot. It has the low end grunt and good mid range. It does lack top end, as to where the KTM has crazy power. I´ve ridden 250 KTM´s and Yamahas, and those are too high revving and lack in the mid range for me. 2013 250 Honda is just sluggish all round, but is a lot of fun since you can just flog it without any fear. I do like my old 2005 Suzuki 450. Old school carburated 4 gear smooth power. Too plush on the suspension, but that can be fixed. A lot of fun to play with. Carves really well and has enough power. Just don´t ride it too slow or it will heat up and start to flame out. I like the stability of the big four strokes, just keep your knees tight, power on, and those will clear any ruts. No 2-stroke can do that. Last year I raced the 450 Suzuki in a CC race. Had a lot of fun. It´s not always about the bike, just have fun.
I’d love to see this test (or the 450 test)done on a loamy deep tilled track to see if it would shake the results up. This isn’t a a Pala national prep is it? This track looks dry and hard as all get out lol.
Post the 24 Dyno chart. As you know the charts do not always tell how the bike performs. The numbers could be higher but still produce lower laptimes. Out of the box the YZF is easiest to go fast on.
Questions: With the Forks Dialed in, is the KX250f great and would have done better in the shoot out? After listening to shoot outs lately it seems like the Kawasaki 250f took a step backwards when it started sharing the 450 chassis, if so then is an older model like a 2021 or 2022 a better Kawasaki? If you had the option to buy a new or like New Previous Generation Yamaha, a New 2023 , either a like new 2020-2023 Yamaha, wouldn't that be the way to go?
@@quadcityracing Yeah I think I would buy a leftover 23 rather than a 24. I do love the look of the 50th anniversary edition though. But I like the stability of the last module. I would take more stability over better cornering. The 24 seems like it would be good for Supercross though, So Deegan should do well on it IMO
Buy whatever you can get a good deal on an average rider like myself will not even notice the differences they're talkin about I had a yz250f but I thought was a great bike bought a new 2022 kx250f I do think it rides nicer and handles way better than the yz
I often see broken frames from ktm, and I always wonder why no one from these guys, never mention this,from where I come we Do not even have pros, and although I often see broken frames from the austrians, all in. The same place near the triple clamps no. One says nothing, maybe in the USA with your new ktm , they give you a second frame .for free.
Wondering if I should get the 23 or 24 YZ250 because I heard the 24 lost some bottom end and I’m not a big fan of the sound…but I like the slim shrouds and rider triangle. Anybody can help me decide? Lol
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I love that retro '93 look on the Yamaha. I had a '93 YZ125 I got from an NESC expert in New England back in the day, and I loved that thing.
Suzuki already knows what y’all would say about it 🤣
I’m a Suzuki guy at heart and get weak as fuck at that
Suzuki hasn’t updated anything because it’s literally perfect. No magic button gets you to the bottom of the list.
@@dylancrow7919 agreE . suzuki japan knOw how to do hahahaha ken james ricky
@@dylancrow7919 No. It’s 100% a money thing, they’ve even opened up and admitted it.
@@walkerkarnstadta money thing in what way?
Those clowns over at MXA had Yamaha in 4th behind all 3 Austrian bikes.
Happy I’m not the only one who was questioning the mxa results
was a joke shootout lol. SML is where i go
As it should be yami is down on power with quirky handling
@@ryanxmx31 first person I ever seen say that
MXA love that KTM 🍆
Thanks for a great 250cc test, but now is there anyway you can test the new 2024 Triumph 250cc against the results of all these?
Dude that Honda looks so fresh
I guess the real question is which Ogio bag did you all like the best??? 🤣😂🤣
It’s always interesting when they say the Yamaha has the hardest hitting power, most power, most pull etc when on the dyno it’s significantly less Hp and torque than the ktm trio only slightly more than the Honda which is classed as slow. Never under stood this, I rode a pipe and ecu tune 22 a fully stock 23 yam and wasn’t overwhelmed with the “hit” or pull more of a sound effect than anything, but I am coming from a stock 350 and ktm 250, suspension wise i agree it was good and stable, brilliant fork.
if you look at the dyno chart is more powerfull down low
@@vaughanhodgson it really isn’t even tho I may feel that way off the bottom it’s actually 1 fltb down at 2k and 2ftlb down at 4k about the same at 6k and a further ftlb down at 8k 23 vs 23 and since then heavier chain on the 24 yam it’ll be down on ftlbs again
Pat is hands down the best test rider!
Nice work Swapmoto
I like Pat reviews
I just wish that Suzuki would up their game with an e-start and so on. I´m not a Suzuki fan, but have two of those in my garage. Five other bikes as well.. I ride a 350 KTM usually, but it would be an interesting test if my lap times would be better on a 2013 250 Suzuki or my 2021 350 KTM. Suzuki does not have the power of the 350, but I´m an amateur/vet rider, and I like the Suzuki a lot. It has the low end grunt and good mid range. It does lack top end, as to where the KTM has crazy power. I´ve ridden 250 KTM´s and Yamahas, and those are too high revving and lack in the mid range for me. 2013 250 Honda is just sluggish all round, but is a lot of fun since you can just flog it without any fear. I do like my old 2005 Suzuki 450. Old school carburated 4 gear smooth power. Too plush on the suspension, but that can be fixed. A lot of fun to play with. Carves really well and has enough power. Just don´t ride it too slow or it will heat up and start to flame out. I like the stability of the big four strokes, just keep your knees tight, power on, and those will clear any ruts. No 2-stroke can do that. Last year I raced the 450 Suzuki in a CC race. Had a lot of fun. It´s not always about the bike, just have fun.
BluCru 🥇
That anniversary edition Yamaha is so choice, and that Kawi is bad ass. Year after year, you can never go wrong with Yamaha, Kawasaki, or Honda.
Front mouse helps with the front end feel on the ktm.
I’d love to see this test (or the 450 test)done on a loamy deep tilled track to see if it would shake the results up. This isn’t a a Pala national prep is it? This track looks dry and hard as all get out lol.
Post the 24 Dyno chart. As you know the charts do not always tell how the bike performs. The numbers could be higher but still produce lower laptimes. Out of the box the YZF is easiest to go fast on.
what year is that yamaha because i tryed an yzf 250 2014 and it has litterly no buttom torque at all!!!! terrbiel down low to mid rpm only top worked.
Too bad you couldn't get Triumph. I'd love to see a some real reviews on it.
the test is about bikes, which you can buy :) my bet would be "Triumph will have KTM engine feel and Yamaha chassis feel :)"
Best shootout 🤩🤩
Ok my Asian brother your purple and gold FXR gear is sick
HONDA and SUZUKI! 😉
Questions: With the Forks Dialed in, is the KX250f great and would have done better in the shoot out?
After listening to shoot outs lately it seems like the Kawasaki 250f took a step backwards when it started sharing the 450 chassis, if so then is an older model like a 2021 or 2022 a better Kawasaki?
If you had the option to buy a new or like New Previous Generation Yamaha, a New 2023 , either a like new 2020-2023 Yamaha, wouldn't that be the way to go?
Is a 2024 KTM 250 the perfect bike if you upgrade to oil filled forks?
Sure, the yz from 21-23 is the same bike fully capable of winning this shootout. And is faster the the new 24’ according to mxa’s dyno.
@@quadcityracing MXA Is a joke
@@quadcityracing Yeah I think I would buy a leftover 23 rather than a 24.
I do love the look of the 50th anniversary edition though.
But I like the stability of the last module. I would take more stability over better cornering.
The 24 seems like it would be good for Supercross though, So Deegan should do well on it IMO
Buy whatever you can get a good deal on an average rider like myself will not even notice the differences they're talkin about I had a yz250f but I thought was a great bike bought a new 2022 kx250f I do think it rides nicer and handles way better than the yz
Where is Triumph?
In the workshop
Ok Yamaha 👍👍
Where's the Triumph
No Suzuki🤨even with the special deal they’re doing, surprising
I often see broken frames from ktm, and I always wonder why no one from these guys, never mention this,from where I come we Do not even have pros, and although I often see broken frames from the austrians, all in. The same place near the triple clamps no. One says nothing, maybe in the USA with your new ktm , they give you a second frame .for free.
now im debating on getting a ktm. what do you think between yamaha or kawasaki
No Triumph?
😂
Yz250f head and shoulders above
Best .. 🤣 they’re all the best
☝🏼
rather have 2 stroke
Wondering if I should get the 23 or 24 YZ250 because I heard the 24 lost some bottom end and I’m not a big fan of the sound…but I like the slim shrouds and rider triangle. Anybody can help me decide? Lol
Get the 24
4 strokes blow
Suzuki nah bro 😭
nope
Yes
@@murrayfilmss9752 Maybe
Churrrr
No Suzuki lmfaoooo
They declined it
rmz nOt in h.hahahaha nO chance2018