Technics 1210 is still vital for the future of DJing - here's why!
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
- 0:00 Intro
0:51 First experience with a Technics 1210 turntable
2:54 Where did you buy you first pair of Technics?
4:20 How did you learn to DJ vinyl?
5:09 What is the most damage you have seen a Technics 1210 withstand?
6:34 Should more people start DJing with vinyl?
8:03 What do you think of the Technics 1210 MK7s?
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The iconic Technics SL 1210 is the deck that changed it all! At the launch of the SL 1210 Mk7 at fabric London, DJ Mag asked five legendary vinyl DJs if the 1210 is still vital for the future of DJing...
Featuring interviews with DJs who performed at Technics SL 1210 Mk7 launch at fabric in July 2019. Thanks to Micky Finn, Matt Jam Lamont, DJ Marky, DJ Prime Cuts and Low Steppa for the insight and to Technics for the event.
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What the name of the song played at 3:37 ? Big up from Amsterdam !
pro tip : watch series on Kaldrostream. I've been using them for watching loads of movies during the lockdown.
@Marcel Noel Yea, have been using flixzone} for since december myself :D
don't think i'll ever make a better purchase in my life than my 1210's
I have my pair of Technics Sl 1210 mk2, purchased in 1984, still going strong.
Purchased (1k) My Technics SL1210 MK2 Back in the year 1995. Still work to this very day and Still a pleasure to play on them.
Love my technics, even the way they look, and the bubble on the lids, and you can’t put a price on searching for music, listening to it, and mixing it !!, straight up food for the soul 👊
Very well said. I really miss going to record stores. I used to turn up on Thursdays and Saturdays and the owner always had a stack of the latest cuts for the dj’s he new. Good times 😢
Got an 82 and an 87 .....S1200MK2 .....bith still going strong 😂
I arrived in london from south Africa, got a job, place to live, once that was sorted i spent my entire life savings, 10 000 Rand converted to pounds, at the time was about 1000gbp only, bit less maybe, And bought my 1st pair of sl1200's and a mixer!
Vinyl mixing.... all budding djs should get to grips with it! It was also a barrier to entry, the price tag and skill of it.
Now anyone and their dog can be a dj! But not necessarily a talented sequencer and curator of music.
If u use sync, be creative in other ways, add efx, loops for example. Make that extra time not spent beat matching count. Then i can see merit in someone using it, if they not going to beat match. 😎
Cool vid.
Skool us Technics and DJ Mag!
Make rave, club and DJ culture great again.
Great seeing this as I've been saying this for a good minute
Got my first SL's back in 1987!
Bought mine 30 years ago from a shop in Kentish Town. Never had a thing go wrong with them.
I started on Technics in 1993 and I still use Technics, I gave up dj'ing in clubs because nearly all clubs started using on CD decks, I tried CD decks but felt they were more like toys. I use Native Instruments Traktor Scratch nowadays but still with timecoded vinyl because I never wanna give up that vinyl aspect of dj'ing. I think Mickey Finn was too kind towards the sync button to be honest I wonder what he REALLY thinks. I know me personally i'm blunt and I think any dj who uses sync is cheating, it takes 90% of the skill out od dj'ing and makes dj'ing so easy even a child can do it. Two mates of mine who who CD decks came my place a few years ago and tried on my Technics, i'd disabled sync and BPM counters in Traktor already because I don't beatmatch that way i've always beatmatched by ear. Anyway my two mates couldn't mix they play in clubs on CD decks and round my place they sounded like beginners, lol. This backs up my view that using sync takes 90% of the skill out of dj'ing.
couldnt agree more mate
If you don't have technics you will not understand!
Ato Nympha I just got my first 1200mk7 last week, you’re definitely right
They don't need to have a turntable to understand. I mean, they shouldn't. After all, they all know what a turntable is... but most of them are afraid to use one!
yes i gat tree turnatables technics
@Cut Fresh
We will see if the Reloop last 27 years without damaged or needing to be serviced like my pair of 1200MK2's I still have and use right now. And they still look brand new.
30 years in the game and I still use Technics.
I have 37 years in the dj game and still only play vinyl.
I owned a pair 25 years ago.Bought them from Canal Hi Fi in downtown Manhattan, N.Y.. I sold them for a reduced price because I had to move. I still regret that decision.
Canal hi fi. My second home.
Same here, bought my 1200's in 1983 brand new and paid 300 each and bought a GLI mixer. Also had to sell mine at a reduced price because of hard times and now, just a shitty pair of decks is going for about 5-700 used each. If you wanted to buy the newest model of Technics now, they run about 1400 which is just fucking ridiculous. There much less DJ's back then which result in much lower sales than you have today with everyone in their mother wanting to now be a DJ so why the price hike is just pure greed and to make it un-afordable for most. Ain't gonna spend over 3k for them and with used comes the problems of how people treat them. All these companies like rane, traktor are really killing the industry in a sense with these produced fake DJ's. With all of this crap out, it's going to make it much more harder for a talented turntable DJ to get a job and demand their price at a club because with rane serato and traktor doing the job for these fake DJ's, a club could save thousands not paying some DJ with real talent. Look on RUclips, Rob swift is spitting out DJ's left and right, it's going to be a bleak future for the true DJ who has to provide for his family with the talent they have a earned. What i am trying to say is you have a Marine who served, earned his medals and stripes then you have some faker go into goodwill and finds some marines donated uniform and he slaps it on and roams the street making everyone think he deserves the title. STOLEN VALOR!, it is in the same respect. No one truly does anything for just a hobby and in some point they come to the idea that they would like to make some money at it.
I don't know anyone who hasn't regretted selling their SLs
Same here but you understand where i am coming from. Big corporations are always scheming in the back ground and devising plans of stealing all the money for themselves. People are gullible and are just so wowed at all this new technology that's coming out and not realizing what it's really going to do to the industry, yes it's going to make music all sound so much better but on some respect something else has to take the down fall for it and the end result will be that talented DJ who has earned his stripes. Instead of me now getting 5-7k a weekend DJ'ing at some popular club, some half ass with all his digital shit and software that does it all for him will get paid 1500.00 for that weekend. As i said before, i have no gripes for all these new digital stuff for people using it for the average Hobbyist, that's what i do now except i am truly stuck to the wheels of steel, just for the hobby because i have gotten so disgusted of what's happening. Shure announced it will not longer make Dj needles and cartridges which has now drove up the prices by 4-5 times fold of any remaining stock left out there on the market so the only other alternative is now the very expensive Ortofons. These fake DJ's have now caused a dryup on needles. Anyone with a fat wallet today can be a dj, Talent no longer required.
@@virtual4desires I had the gli 5991
im still in sl-1210s. almost 20 years now
Big ups for gettin Mickey Finn true OG
I went for AT LP120 almost two years ago as a first entry setup. Now as I'm certain vinyl is the medium for me, and had enough money to consider order the mk7's. Coincidentally I came across a very well preserved pair of mk2's for 800 euros including Ortofons. Oh man how happy I am that I ended up with those old Japanese ones instead of the new light Malaysian version.
Bought my first mk7 about a month ago.. Technics for life !
Should of bought a MK2 instead
@@djxsquizit I already have a set from years ago lad 🤗
@@roberttaggart5757 So why waste your money on these Chinese made ones. U were better of getting some used M5Gs
@@djxsquizit Chinese? Lulz
@@Marc1nSZN Yes, MK7s are made in Malaysia (China)
I never even realised vinyl went out of fashion till someone told me it was making a comeback
Long live the vinyl DJ😊
Subbed to your channel👍
outdated dinos have fun getting no work
I first bought a pair of technics in 2003/04 ...the sl1210mk5, I absolutely loved them and I still do! I'm glad vinyl is making a comeback cos its by far my favourite method of listening....but some body please get the record companies to press 12inch singles again, just not the same without them!
I bought my first pair when I was 15 got them from some old wedding DJ looked like disco Stu from the simpsons told me they were fifteen yrs old! Got 2 techs in road case for 500$ total i beat the hell out of those things for years had no problems. I eventually sold them to a friend who still has them 25 years after i bought them 40 year old and they still hold it down! He had a party i rocked those things for hours one of the lights didnt work everything eles was great! Tanks!!!!
I love my Technics
My Brother played at Dockside South Africa, Cape Town. Reopened after a few years. He played on his Decks.
I love my 1210's and when I use Serato, my reloop rp-8000's. Best of both worlds!!
'BEAUTIFUL'
A Most Appreciative
Raptor Rob 👍
Got my old school Technics hoodie still! Love the decks still got my m5gs and about to buy another pair lol
I bought mine in 98. Cost me a grand, I was hooked immediately and spent every weekend in 23rd precinct in Glasgow buying tracks, mainly house and trance. I sold them two years ago, it was a sad day. Sold them for £700 after 20 years of use. Damn I loved my 1210's, they were a work of art.
Lee Hamill you shouldn’t have sold them mate. You should have Boxes them up and stored them away
@@audiorhino4231 I still have all my vinyl which are too sentimental to me. I did buy Pioneer Controller so still DJing, nothing compares to Technics 1210's though.
I bought my first pair of 1200MK2's in 1989 and they were stolen in 1993. I bought my second pair in 1993 from Music Craft in Chicago and I still have them today. I have never had any problems or had them serviced and everything still work.
Great selection of DJ's...
Most unbiased reviews say the MK7's are a over-priced poor quality MK2.
i agree
Brazil..Marky represent
I payed £400 for two SL 1210 mk2's In 88,89 and thought It was a lot of Money This was from a HI Fi shop that didn't know what they were. When the final payment was made and I could finally take them home. That day was the Beginning of My life. They are still like the day I bought them. I had Garrard SP 35 belt drives and a home made Mixer. Then moved on to a Citronic Thames 2 with the amps and Tape deck In. Now I am a Video DJ for the last 5 Years and still loving It. 61 going on 18 In 2019.
Learned on belt drivens in 1994, got my pair of technics in 1997, I still have them use them and polish them every six months..
1989 first pair
I just got my first technics 1200 last week, the MK7. It was an upgrade from an audiotechnica at lp120 and there really is a huge ass difference
My first Technics was a m3d then I got the mk7 dopest turntables out there.
I Lov my old Technics!!!!! Long Life To Technics!!!!
This is why I love my mk5s
Love 1200s. Had MKIIs then got M3Ds, then got M5Gs. You can't beat the feel. I wish they would expand the pitch range, increase the torque, and add note capability.
Please DJ Mag invite your top 100 EDM DJ's from 2019
Up to your studio , setup up some Technics ( old or new)
Give them some vinyl , ask them to do DJ set for your RUclips channel
The comedy levels would be great sorry 🎧😄
I think only few like Andy C, Carl Cox, Pvd on that list could mix ?
DJ Release your right mate 😄
@@audiorhino4231 Haha if only DJMag would do that , i think they know but won't admit it that lol
But if they are No1 DJ they should be able to DJ on anything right ??? So DJMag should do this
-Or Get DJ's To Do One Mix On Turntables With The Same Mix Recreated On a DJ Controller Soon After and See What Mix Was Better.
@@danielhudson5424 I think DJ Mag should do that yes !!!
If their top 100 djs are the world's best , can they mix records on Technics turntables even DVS ( without sync) DJ Mag I'm talking about Garrix , Like Mike, Dimitri Vegas , Tiesto all the top 20
Mr F-Swift tiesto can mix on vinyl no problem mate. He only switched to CDJ in 2005/2006. after mixing on vinyl form 1994. He lift trance for EDM 2009/2010
The worst invention was the cdj , yes I use them because I have to , bring back the turntable, getting my new techs soon, I even miss cutting dubs
Technics, please bring back the analog pitch control.
Instantly recognised that was DJ Marky in the thumbnail
I bought one 1200 mk2 in 1989, because it was too expensive to own a pair. When i came into a settlement 3 years later i bought a pair SL 1210 for 798.00 not including the tax. I still have them till this day.
Good to see Technic bringing back a new turntable with an old soul. Pioneer and Reloop made decent decks but I think DJ'S missed the "feel " of what only a 1200 mk2 can give. Yes lm showing my age here. Lets not forget that before the 1210 there was the 1200. I still got a few tapes of me mixing on my 1200's and a Power mpa 601 notary mixer. Sadly I had to sell my 1200's and I regret it still to this day (Still got that Power 601 thou).
So thank you Technic for bringing back a legend. That would be this old man's Christmas gift to himself. A pair of MK7's would look nice next to my pair of Pioneer XDJ 1000mk2's
technics thank you for your help with making would of hope today there nothing happening with technology thanks for technics
I love and respect the old workhorses but to be honest there are other models from other brands I've preferred using. The other brands don't tend to be as well built and durable which is why the technics reign supreme in clubs, but I love the feel and features of some of the others. My first decks were Technics SL23 and I've used plenty of 1200/1210s over the years. My current decks aren't technics though and I love em.
" Mickey Finn " Technics Deck cost £300 , My car cost £500"
Pair of new Technics SL1210 Mk7 , I wonder what Car that's near today with the price 😃?
I think pair of Technics SL 1210 MK2 or Mk5 will always be the best deck in solid performance , the parts back then was expensive with quality in build that's why they still play fresh today
400 was expensive in 90s for turntable but these new Technics
Double that , I really don't understand Panasonic's vision here
Just release a Technics SL 1200 or 1210 MK2 or Mk5 level
Remake , price it around 345 deck , that would sell big in the DJ market then a 800 a deck Technics SL 1210 mk7 , only club or bars will buy them , for that price new djs etc will buy a DJ controller that's high end .
I actually bought a 1990 volvo last summer for 800 hundred think it gad 250000 miles couple dents. But im assuming thats about what these will cost
@@jessealfieri1426 double mate lol
@@backtrackinoldskool1483 heard they was 1200$ glad still got mine have to see if they built them to last like the good old days got my first set for 500 for the pair
@Jeff Delaware sorry money bags i own tech 12s think they will probably out live me they are tanks don't know if the new are going to be the same quality as the old ones. Wasn't complaining just pointing out what I paid for my first set. The Mk7s cost 1000$ a piece plus a mixer a setup going to run you atleast three grand if you want turntables! It's definitely going to hurt most people's wallets hopefully they are built as well as the mk2s or m3ds! Im glad I don't got to pony up the cash for a set and only time will tell if the can take a beating like previous models. I have my doubts
@Jeff Delaware your clearly missing the joke , it was about what Mickey Finn said in regards to Technics , but in answer to your question, the past technology in DJing lasts longer , better solid parts not cheap crap like today , things are more robust , your pioneer expensive bits of over priced plastic won't be about in another 20 years but I bet my Technics will lol
Got my first pair of 1210s 22 years back, just sold em got more then i paid for em, nothing ever went wrong with em and i battered the crap outta them. Unfortunately cant say the same for my wife.
What's that Plastic Dreams remix?
That's DJ Deller Romantical remix , it was changed bit to the original press , which is very very rare bit of vinyl today
UK garage track
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I wanna learn scratching so bad to help preserve the beautiful artform of turntableism and I feel like the 1210s are the best way to start. Should I get a pair?
Have Technics to play off Laptops and collecting dust in clubs. So big up to those cutting dubplates still, playing vinyl and enjoying physical products
Bless Mickey Finn!!
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skillwise its much harder in a good fun challenging way, but i think the days of beat matching as the core skill have been replaced now with the creativeness that the digital offers i.e hot loops etc
smashed one up with a hammer!!! FFS
Mickyfinn starlight 92.
Got technics, love em. But this title is misleading - what mentions went they're essential for the future?
Tbh I would love if clubs and pubs did vinyl nights only as only a few of us would be ok to mix. 😄😄😄
I’ve been rinsing the vinyls for 25 years. Tried the traktor scratch digital vinyl but it’s never the same. Technics are the standard and will last forever. Should make everything like they do technics and then we’d have no waste.
the latest version of the 1210 is not good.Cheaply made and being sold for silly money.You are better of with an original pair with proper isolation and a rock solid tone arm.These new technics are like cheap knock offs.I wouldnt even have a pair for my bedroom
I Love my Technics 1200's Thanks Panasonic
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I thought the future of DJing was and instagram account and a pre mixed set!
Unfortunately a lot of others think that too 😰
Those WHack dj will be forgotten, I’m putting away my cdjs bring out my mk5s and buying s9 mixer
What the track at 6.34
Remember a Technics 1200 being dropped on concrete stairs before being used for a weekend of pirate radio.
I started out using belt drives and then saved up for a pair of Technics which were like nothing else back then. Now I have CDJs which I must say sound better. I still have my Technics and prefer the feel of them when playing, but you can't beat the sound quality of digital format.
Check you ears mate, get a hearing test, or get new speakers ! You can't beat the analogue sound of a 12 inch piece of vinyl that was recorded for a club. Get a copy of "Blue Monday" by New Order & really turn up the volume. Cheers mate.
@@beeboy6967 lol nope, you need to get your ears tested. Even with brand new needles vinyl doesn't beat the original source. After all, it's been copied from lossless format to begin with, except it rolls off all frequencies below 20Hz and above 17kHz. With WAV you get the full spectrum and pristine sound quality.
@@cun7us All good brother, I think it all comes down to a matter of choice. You say potato, I say potata. I have both formats, maybe I'm just getting old ha ha.
@@beeboy6967 In a way you're right, it can be subjective and vinyl is known for having a "warm" sound which some people prefer. Also, in a club it depends on how the sound engineer has set up the system, i.e. for vinyl or digital format.
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Nothing will equal the analogue pitch faders on Mk2/M3d/Mk5 Technics, for playing real vinyl.
The Mk7 is the best 'new' turntable for DJ-ing, but it isn't close to the accuracy of the original model. But, everyone uses DVS now, so I guess it doesn't matter : I would love to see anyone who 'loves' the new Mk7 do a vinyl house/techno mix, with long 2 to 3 minute transitions and 3 deck mixing on the Mk7, because it just isn't possible without constantly juggling them.
DJ Prime Cutttt!!!
At the very end it is claimed just how great the digital pitch is. I am owning a pair of MK7's now for a few days and have difficulty beatmatching while I never have issues with it on SL1200 MK2's which I own and use for 20 years. I'm not 100% sure it's only the pitch or also the torque which I haven't found the ideal setting of. I just had not anticipated that there would be a learning curve going from MK2 to MK7. I hope it is just a learning curve and not something that will keep happening because digital pitch is incremental and the desired speed may be just between two increments, while correcting on the platter which always used to help up until now makes things worse.
Tbh I’ve only ever played on them, never owned a pair, but yes they are the best decks ever bar none.
The mark 7..smoother motor..better arm..better wiring..dedicated rca and ground outputs..and detachable power lead..but the base is nowhere as solid as the Mk2..being not of the bulk moulding compound but lighter . This results in less resistance to vibration and lesser bass response. So if this bothers ..get the GR for not much more (BMC base) or Mk1-6. Otherwise..good deck.
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When i was in secondary school early 90s during the 6 weeks holiday i went to work 190 miles away from home age 15.i slept where i worked and two shifts a day 7 days a week.when i returned home the very next day i went into technics shop and asked the sales man,how much is a sl1200 and said £480 i said i will take two of them pleáse.still got them till this day and they are fine.im a technics hifi collector and service engineer.i have vestax pmc 08 pro mixer amd my mpc1000.also shure m447s are getting harder and cost alot to replace.
Jico for replacement Shure needles bro. The sound quality is the same.
because we hit dead end to make a new way to sell music didn't notice so we thank what we have LPS record and yes turntable
What happened to the 1200 mk2 they stop making them the 1210 is just the black version of the 1200 mk2 am I right
Yes
Apparently the 1210’s have a switch under the platter that can change the voltage & 1200’s don’t ☹️
Everys first major purchase other then a car or house as a young person ..and you still had to buy albums then..some case doubles
whats the track name on 4:20? i cant remember the title please help!!
Mk2’s or mk5’s still the best deck technics ever made . No need for the digital pitch is definitely the down point of all the newer models imo .
Indeed so ,
The digital pitch is ok on these some say but again it's nothing like old Technics analog pitch fader, it stays in time longer plus you can move the platter bit with the pitch to fine adjust old style , you can't do that with digital turntables
I've had the M5Gs (which have digital pitch) for years now. I came up with the analog pitches on the MKii and the M3D and have lots of time on those decks. Honestly, I prefer the digital pitch on the M5Gs because it's just a lot more consistent. The problem I had with the analog pitches is that they aren't consistent. You can always use your ears for slow mixes (your ears are always reliable), but when you want to rock doubles you don't want to go in fast. The problem is, with the analog pitches, you can put both decks on "+4%" and in reality, one will be at +3% and the other will be at +4.25%. The decks weren't always consistent to each other. Also, you would see inconsistencies in the amount of pitch change over the travel of the slider. You might go up 2% in pitch from 0 to 2 on the slider, but from 2 to 4 on the slider you might go up only 1% pitch, then up 3% pitch from 4 to 6 on the slider. The digital pitches are much more consistent in that regard. I've never had any issue with drifting pitches on the digital sliders. So, I don't know, I wonder whether a lot of the blowback about the digital pitch is coming from people who don't have that much experience on both styles.
In 2002 The 1210 limited MD3's were made, The motor is very sturdy on this model & smoth around the 0% setting with no click, and acurate, Since using them and getting really good at mixing I wouldnt want any other turn table. ( The only isues I had were with the tonearms ) I bought and played on other 1210 - MK2s since then which were 'very slightly out' / Did not hold the tempo quire aswellafter alot of use, I have had 4x MD3's Never any issues wirh motor accuracy.. I am yet to try the MK5s ;)
Shit if they weren’t a grand for each one I’d get em too😂
I still have my mk11 but day's of vinyl are over! And I don't mind as I love technology!!
I want to hear some North American djs input... I was expecting qbert or jazzy Jeff.
I hate you Mickey Finn for destroying that technics turntable 😭
#RealDJs Play Vinyl!
Track at 2:56 please!
djfrankyfrank Jaydee Plastic Dreams
I can buy 2 reloops for the price of 1 mk7...
I think Technics are incredibly naive if they think the Mk7's will have any significant dominance in what is now a crowded, saturated DJ market.
Song at 6:34?
Souls Of Mischief - 93 'Til Infinity
Song at 8.02???
what mickey finn said is true the bj djs of today would wobble if there were vinyl only nights with no auto sync
personally i think your not a proper dj until you mastered the old technics
Agree but I can't see many djs buying these new Technics for that price with digital pitch , it's cheaper to buy some sl1200 or sl1210 MK2 or Mk5 and they probably are better to DJ vinyl with, in fact I thought MK2 Technics was always best deck to mix on
@@mrreleasedj i have had mine for 20+ years you cant go wrong with the old 1210s/1200s i have mixed on digital ones as well but i still prefer the older models
@@rareoldschoolbreakbeathard7583 but what Mickey Finn says is true I agree , you listen to club djs today in house etc their mixing sounds robotic , no movement in it , too clean no edge of rawness like the rave days on turntables , lot of it is master tempo etc today's djs don't even pitch tunes up, I asked cdj 2000 nexus house DJ recently why dont you pitch the tune up bit , he said it would make mixing it more difficult ?? Wtf lol
@@backtrackinoldskool1483 I agree all the digital DJ's sound the same.
But the Brits had to buy their equipment...In nyc it was a whole different story..lot of the equipment was stolen through some of Nyc black outs..
46 don't like... what? Exactly WHAT ??? You people don't agree? Sure thing... but let's hear WHY you don't like this.
Sorry but the world has decided to run with AR, which means now Djs will be fazed our by clubs with playlists and auto mix systems taking its play lists from peoples most view play lists on their phones while in the club
No I think the digital DJ world might loose out as more and more vinyl is being pressed today a vinyl DJ scene might easily happen as djs get fed up
Djing with timecodes is not DJing with vinyl.
it's about as vital als the clickbait that this video is
😂😂no its not. a 10 year olds can dj today and sound just fine. why would it ever go back to manual pitch considering just how HUGE the DJ biz has gotten?
Technics decks are incredible, and trying to pitch mix on CDJs is a joke, but thats why everything is software, BPM display and sync now. It would be like people turning in their smart phones and going to phone land lines......or photograpehrs throwing out their digital cameras and going back to film roll.
Nothing special about Technics anymore other than the nostalgia of having owned one.
Riiiiight... have fun with that Pause button buddy. lol