Continuing Controversy of Buzz Saw VS Chainsaw HD 1080p
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- Опубликовано: 26 дек 2020
- There's a little sawdust and some short pieces of pole wood that are the subject of the video.....Actually...the real subject as reflected in the title is perpetuating the myth in the minds of the obstinate chainsaw jockey that think theirs is the superior way to cut pole wood. The way that is done is by insisting that the buzz saw is the superior way..... Oh yeah man, I am the King of Controversy.... I remember almost getting beat up on the playground in Kindergarten insisting chocolate milk is superior to white milk.... Yep, that little girl was a tough one....
Seriously though if you didn't accidentally FF past it, I proudly state to not let anyone else tell you what is best for you.... Decide for yourself and do what is right for you. You know what though, there are many occasions where I prefer cutting pole wood with a chainsaw. One would be if you are deep in the woods and at another location where it would take another trip to get the saw rig there. Makes sense to whack 'em and stack 'em....but then again, most times its easy enough to get them on the trailer in pole lengths to transport back home to the woodpile for staging. The same movement per stick nets a greater return in the short period merely by length. One bend, one pole equals multiple pieces in the same amount of time. When on sites, sometimes 'time is of the essence'. You just gotta hit and git it....cut it, load it and move out !! This gives you the option then of relaxing while processing back at the ranch and not being 'under the gun' meeting a deadline on site.
The main goal to processing wood in any fashion as a near-septuagenarian is conservation of movement and energy. An older body regenerates strength and endurance to a lesser degree than that of a younger body in a given time. Especially if you pack a little additional weight around the midsection or consume a lot of sugars and fats. But hey...I was NOT born to do without ice cream or red meat, so there's a trade off in this area. I'm good with that.
So suffice it to say this was just basically another simple video designed to provoke a little thought for 'the other side'....the diehard group of ''Man I can do that faster with a chainsaw" people. Its all good, we are all basically just trying to beat the system by keeping in shape mentally and physically while providing a superior level of warmth for our own personal Hobbit Holes. What ever you do, just keep on doing it, but do it with an open mind and you may find you are surprised by the result !! Bear in mind that all content within the confines of this production is based on my personal experiences and are my opinion only !! Your experiences and opinions may vary, but we can still be internet friends....LOL.
Keep on whacking and stacking and and Happy New Year of Sawing !! 
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Even at 55yo the buzz saw looks like the way to go...as I sit here sweating while taking a break from chainsaw work, ha.
Happy New Year!
Hahahaha... sweating right here in the middle of winter...shame on you !! You shouldn't work that hard !! LOL. A little hard work never hurt anybody, just ask the Missus...she does most of it around here !! Thanks Ronald for the comment and have a great week.
@@tractorman4461 LOL, just me and my dog here and I've never seen him sweat, ha.
I had just cut down and bucked a short busted pine for my neighbor but I always forget to remove layers once I get going.
Always enjoy your videos, you have a great week too!
@@ronaldwilkins6056 Thank you sir for watching the silliness I put out there....its just another day in the life of a poor boy getting by. You have a great week too and keep your dog warm !! I am a dog guy. Always had 'em and always will.
Love the juxtaposition of the satire and humility as always with your great videos. I like to exercise the best of both worlds with a budget Electric buzz saw for small pole wood and a chainsaw for the bigger stuff.
It’s nice to see how others operate... for instance, my confidence might not be quite there yet for your set up but the speed and efficiency appeals to me. I am definitely considering an upgrade to a pto buzz saw but possibly with the addition of some retrospective guarding and even an out feed conveyer if we need to increase our production.
Thanks again.
By golly Marcus you are on the right track...You certainly have the right tractor to make it work smoothly. I don't know how easily they are found in the UK, but I'm sure there are some out around the countryside. Ferguson and Dearborn saws are almost identical. Keep your eye peeled for the right angle drive that has the attachment point on top in the rear. They are scarce as hen's teeth around here. Thank you young man, for the very thoughful comment....and I'm assuming Santa treated your little daughter quite well...??
I’ve been looking to find a good buzz saw they are hard to find around my area I burn a lot of slab wood and it sure would make it so much easier to cut it up
We processed slab wood with the buzz saw by the thousands. It works perfectly well in that situation. You develop a knack of going into the blade then raising the rear or the front of a wide slab at just the right time to finish the cut on a wide one too. They are available quite frequently around here. I missed one a few miles away from me on FB Marketplace recently....Fifty bucks. I called and the guy was waiting on the first guy that called to show up. Missed it that close....minutes. Thanks Timothy for the comment sir.
Hi Wendell! The buzz saw gets my vote. But you had convinced me of that in your previous buzz saw videos. At 60, I’m well aware that I can’t quite do what I did even at 50, let alone 30 and 40! So I’m all about easier and simpler! Thanks for sharing!
Well Martin, they are kinda like a woman....treat 'em nice and they'll work all day for you, but if you try to get by with something, they really pack a really big bite along with the bark !! LOL. Don't tell the ladies I said that...... Thanks for stopping in again my friend.
Great controversy subject here! Good considerations too about the safety of movements. I agree with you, stepping on uneven ground with a chainsaw is not safe. Especially if you try to beat the clock. One thing I like about your setup is that the cut log is in your right hand and you just swing it on the woodpile. No more handling upon that point. Then each arm does half of the job. Another good point you made is, how can you say a buzz saw is not safe if you haven't used one yet! I like your description above: " pack a little additional weight around the midsection"... You sure had a good feast recently! Lol! Thanks Wendell!
Well Joe, I have had a feast (or three) lately but I haven't been working nearly as hard as you with your recent move !! If so, I'd be slim, trim and handsome like you and Dave !! LOL. You are right, you don't want to be in a hurry around one of these. Ol' Dave says grew grew up around them, so he can tell you all you wanna know when you build or buy one for the new Case !! If you have a lot of pole wood, your back and chainsaw will thank you !! Take Care and Happy New Year Joe.
I hope you and the family had a great Christmas Wendel. Good to see the Buzz Saw back in action, we got buried in snow the last
Couple of days but will keep moving forward.
Yeah I heard there was some really good snowfall but let me tell ya, I'm glad you kept it all over there Mark !! I am just not quite ready for it yet this year. Heck, I am NEVER ready for it !! Thanks for the visit buddy.
New subscriber who found you through the comments on GP Outdoors. Looking forward to going through your videos.
Great !! Thanks Ian, but you'll find pretty quickly I'm not the suave and gentlemanly type GP is. LOL. He's one cool guy and really presents stuff exceptionally well. Hopefully you will be able to find some things that are of interest to you. Thanks for the comment and I hope as well to see another comment from time to time !!
@@tractorman4461 So much to learn, I'm sure I'll find something. :-)
Funny story I went and bought a lot of powersaws off a guy today that has flatbelts for my buzz saw!!! I'll be joining you in buzz sawing very soon man!! Merry Christmas and Happy new year's!
Great !! I knew you'd find some badly needed flat belts soon. Good for you and I am tickled to hear that !! Thanks for the Holiday wishes, and a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you as well.
The efficiency is irrelevant to me. The way I see is do it the way you want to do it.
Oh heck yeah Wild Bill...I agree totally because sometimes the circumstances cause a fellow to do things different one time to the next. It not a 'one size fits all' kind of occupation is it ?! It's always good to keep your options open...
When I was 26 to 32 married with 5 kids I made good living cutting slabs as an evening and Saturday hustle selling firewood. 12 foot dump truck 4 foot sides rounded up until it started falling off. One every evening and 3-4 on Saturdays. Took about 45 to 60 minutes a load cutting time. I had an old ac tractor and modified hay conveyor I put rubber belt on and 71 ford f350.
I never sold firewood, but I did the same as you to make extra money by hauling junk....and I had a '63 F-250 with the 223 six and extra springs. We did what we gotta do to put the chow on the table as young men didn't we. Never look back with regret....always look ahead with hope. Thanks Keith for the cool comment.
I have to agree with you as to both the better safety and efficiency of the buzzsaw. One needs the whereforall to set up such a rig and maintain it. I was quite young when I last watched one at work, so the adults never let me run one, despite being eager to give it a try.
Well my old man had a tendency to put all us boys in to situations where great bodily harm could be inflicted with relative ease....however....we all learned quick what to do and what not to do around the saw mill, the chain saws, the buzz saw, tractors and all sorts of artery severing tools of destruction !! LOL. That sounds a bit too dramatic doesn't it. Really I wouldn't change a thing about the way we all came up... doing things our city friends wouldn't be able to figure out how to start to do. If you do get one, all you have to remember is safety first ....I don't preach safety too often, but when I do, I really am serious about it. Terry, if you haven't seen this one feel free to watch it at your convenience : ruclips.net/video/2J0trs7CF_Y/видео.html It is long, but I won't apologize for that because guys that are new to saw rigs should watch and observe a lot of saw rig videos as they are setting theirs up to get started. I don't have all the answers, but I do have a good start for you. Thanks for stopping in for a look and thank you for the nice comment sir.
@@tractorman4461 my dad raised me the same way, if family and children services was like they are now they probably would have come and took me lol but I really think kids are built different now days, not all of them but most just don't seem to have the common sense we did. It's environment I reckon.
@@ericbest9562 I'm right there with ya on the family services. All us boys been on tractors, farm equipment and the old sawmill since we were around five years old. If nothing else greasing and cleaning and riding on the fender or the drawbar....Environment is the answer. On the farm you begin to recognize danger in many situations pretty quick.
Wendell, as usual, good video. A friend of mine has his dad's Farmall H that is setup with a front mounted buzz saw. He takes it to the Moses Austin Days in Potosi, Missouri, so he replaced the blade with a round wooden one (without teeth). I was over at this house last week and I told him I made need some parts for the H I got from you so if he sees a part or two missing from his H......
I know from experience a chain saw will wear you out quick enough. Of course age does play a part, but even a young man will get pretty tired if he spent a full day on a chain saw.
Aw heck, tell him to put the blade back on and take a truck load of pole wood for a demonstration !! The people would love it !! Be careful I hear he has a shot gun and a game camera trained on his H. LOL. The good thing about the H's is there is an abundance of parts tractors available.
@@tractorman4461 He has helped me immensely on my Farmall Cubs and there is an interesting story on his H. It was his dads, a 1941 model. A guy working for them was loading into a silo bin, the kind that had a ramp, when he flipped the tractor over backwards, bending the steering column and the hood a bit. They never really fixed it, but used it like it was. They ended up getting rid of it, and decades later the FarmallCubforum bought it back for him. He said he just about cried. Anyways, that is one tractor that will probably stay in the family. He doesn't get around too much anymore, but he loves to drive it in the Moses Austin parade. He lives about 5 or miles west of Potosi in Highway 185 and he drives it to the parade. He has the governor set so he can go about 20 mph in road gear (factory is 15 mph). He's braver than I, I wouldn't drive it on 185, too many hills where a car coming up behind you won't have time to slow down.
@@316jd140 Now THAT is a good story !! He couldn't believe the club bought it back for him....That's so cool !! Yeah, 185 is cool on the bike though. Not so much on a tractor, I agree.
@@tractorman4461 And the hood and steering column is still bent. Other than that, it's a nice looking tractor. He also has 3 Cubs, one with a Wagner loader on it. I used that one at my place (he let me borrow it). He also let me plow some ground, his and a couple of his neighbors, with one of his other Cubs. As I said, he doesn't move as good as he once did, and I enjoy using these old tractors myself.
Appreciate the information. Great video!! Your a pleasure to watch sir!
Thank you for the very supportive comment my friend. I know some of my videos gets to rambling a bit but like I tell everyone this sure ain't Hollywood out here in the woods. So it is what it is when I turn off the camera !! Thanks for taking the time to make a comment and thanks for watching too.
Nice information you have provided on your channel. My mind just told my 70 yr old body that a good buzz saw is just what it needs. I love chainsaws but but like any tool it has its place.....and one of those buzz saws will have a new home if I can lay hands on one.
They are out there...just keep an eye on farm auctions. I got one that wasn't even listed, because it was sold in a pile of scrap. I offered the buyer of the scrap if he'd take five bucks and away I went with it !! Just make sure your blade is in good shape, keep the rpms around 600 or 650 on an old one and make sure you keep the area around your feet clear of the debris from sawing !! You will be stellar !! If you have Facebook, keep an eye on Marketplace...they pop up often on there. Good Luck !
Merry Christmas, Wendell, and Happy New Year. Git 'er done....
Dang, now we gotta go look up some more pole wood. That pile is G O N E !! Thank you for spreading the Christmas Cheer and here's wishing the same Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you as well Powrguy !!
Love that b7100! I’d like to find one. I do have a nice b6100 and really love it. Love your two-cents worth!
Thanks Tom for the kudos. I bought this one new in '82. The only thing about this series was their tendency to wear out the steering shaft if you run it in continual 4wd. I've replaced this one twice, now I only use 4wd when necessary on this one. My Dad has a 7100 also that my Much Older Brother inherited. His was a couple years older than mine, but they look identical except the throttle is reversed on his.
Merry Christmas T! I'm thinking, based on experience on your channel, that the Missus put up one heck of a wonderful feast, fit for a king, for you and your beautiful family, on Christmas day - which is probably why you are out there getting some good exercise today. LOL! Yup, the controversy continues. But I agree, chainsaw, buzz saw, or splitter, you have to stay focused on what you are doing. Whatever works for you, works. And hey, if I can maintain my equipment and make it last as long as you have with yours, I don't think I'll be complaining about much in years to come. :)) Being an HVAC man, I am sure you have a good estimate of how much money you are saving by heating the home and keeping the family warm with what you work outdoors. All the best to you and the family T!
Yep GP...a buddy called me yesterday morning and asked 'Hey man, what'd you get for Christmas"?...to which I simply replied: "FAT !!" LOL. Yessir, gotta work a little harder to get back to that trim 200 pounds !! Yes, focus is the key with any machinery as you well know my friend. I calculated it out one time about annual savings based on the utility costs/kwh but then I carried one step further ... I deducted the costs of the additional tools I've purchased to process the wood to see if I was still coming out to the good. Short answer: yes. LOL. That's not even figuring the health benefits....strong back and weak mind included...... Take Care my friend and may the Holiday Season bring all that you wish for in addition to health, happiness and continued prosperity !!
Merry Christmas tractorman and hope you have a happy new year
Thanks Matt for the well wishes and I wish the same for you and yours sir. Thanks for taking the time to watch a few minutes today !!
@@tractorman4461 anytime brother
As a young person my father had almost this same machine, now being close to your age I'm finding it takes me longer to block up firewood for the reason you mention, I do not have the balance I once had but looking at your machine I'm thinking building one hydraulic thanks for sharing and I do agree with your thinking.
There a lot to be said about slowly becoming a little less secure in the woods. I much rather use the buzz saw over a chainsaw for the pole wood for that reason. Thanks for chiming in with your thoughts Ben.
The biggest problem with this aging process is that it takes so dadgum much longer to get anything done. Back and knees just don’t bend as easy as they once did and bouts of bursitis is not fun. Enjoyed the video, controversy can be had on any subject, and the diehards most likely won’t change. Take care, stay safe, and have a great 2021.
Hahahahaha....yeah, us old guys have a tendency to grow thicker skulls with age. Its almost impossible to change a guys mind once he's got it set in pretty tight on something. LOL. I really don't give a hoot what a guy uses. What works is what works. Heck, the easiest way to get it done is have the neighbor come do it for you !! I was just putting a twist on the video being just another buzz saw video. LOL. Almost clickbait !! Thanks for the comment...and Happy New Year !! Stay warm.
I love hacking away with a chainsaw but a buzz saw uses a whole helluva lot less bar oil, requires a whole lot less sharpening (especially with TCT teeth) and it's a lot easier starting a buzz saw when it's got electric start.
Well, I've been using a buzz saw from the time I was ten or so helping the old man. Everything you 've said is correct Alan !! I've got several set ups I use here and have been since the early 80's. There are mostly buzz saw videos in this playlist. Several different tractors used for power if you are interested: ruclips.net/p/PLk72G9DTzZ1vR5HU-MFrvAt8RCHx_nK5k
I'm thinking I need a cord wood saw. All the bending I can do without
I've been using them since before I was ten and I brought my son up on them too. They are great once you get a sequence going for your self. Just keep the debris away from your feet. Don't wanna be tripping or slipping on stuff.. . LOL
Outta curiosity, what happens to your sawdust? It would be interesting if you had one if those mills for making pellets for Pellet Stoves. Nothing like getting even more use from a waste material.
Appreciate all of your content, thanks so much for sharing!
I do a lot of work on the tractors and old trucks so I use the sawdust created in the shop as an oil soak. The sawdust and bark out here by the sawmill and the buzzsaw goes into the huge compost pile along with small branches and leaves. Then I churn the piles throughout the year. Any other bio degradable materials go in there too. It makes some good dirt and my whole garden area is the home made dirt. Its small, only about 30' x 40' and its 12'' deep on the lower part of the incline up to 6'' on the upper side. Thanks for taking the time to watch the uploads !! It is appreciated for sure.
I GUESS ME BEING OLDER I CAN NOT SEE THROWING AWAY LIMB WOOD, IT STILL BURNS. I HAD A BUZZ RIG YEARS AGO BUT HAVEN'T USED ONE IN A LONG TIME, LIKED SEEING YOURS IN ACTION THANKS
Heck yeah it burns !! I like to get them cut and under roof pretty quick. If you leave the polewood out umcovered, it seems the sapwood deteriorates pretty quick, but cut and stacked under roof it lasts a real long time. I'm glad to hear you enjoyed the old thing making sawdust Michael and thanks for the time you took to watch and listen to the baloney that always goes with my videos....LOL.
Well said Captain!
Thank you Tom for the succinct and subtle comment. Take Care and Stay Safe....Stay warm too. Its been 16F (-9C) here for the last several mornings !!
Is the table spring loaded to return? Or am I not seeing you pull it back?
Well Mark, its both. Very near the bottom and a bit above the hinge is a compression spring. But the trick is to make it to where it only compresses the last portion of the swing of the table into the blade because it would take so much more effort to compress a long spring AND push the block through the blade at the same time. So the 'return assistance' is only on about half the stroke of the table but you develop a knack for exerting down pressure with your left hand to complete the tilt tables cycle to the start position. Make sense ?? Thanks for the observation and asking the question. Have a Happy New Year !!
Wendel how you doing brother seems like I haven't caught up with you in a month. I don't have one and have never operated one and probably never will, but I can for sure see how the buzz saw shines in many situations. Hope you and the family had a great Christmas and looking forward to the new year. Take care brother.
Thanks Ben for the visit my friend !! So far the holidays have been pretty darn good for us all...thanks for thinking of us. Yeah, there are few people by percentage that WILL ever get to use or want to use a buzz saw. But that doesn't seem to stifle the interest in watching the saws do their thing !! LOL. Happy New Year to you as well and dang man, you are selling the dickens out of the firewood man !! Cool....and good for you !!
I like the table on your saw Wendell. Agreed. the buzz saw is faster and in some cases, safer than using a chain saw. You saw is set up very well. The only thing that you are missing is a set of helping hands from your neighbor up in Iowa.
Hahahahaha.....yeah, I hear he's a good hand on either side of the saw !! LOL. One of these days.... Thanks for the comments Gary. Take Care buddy.
Nice work
Thank you for watching. I do have a ton more of buzz saw videos...like I have put on a playlist here: ruclips.net/p/PLk72G9DTzZ1vR5HU-MFrvAt8RCHx_nK5k
Like to find out more about them old B’s. I believe mines the same vintage, I don’t know how many years they made the 100 series as there is some overlap with the 7001, 6001 etc. I purchased my b6100 from the original owner (160 hr ) last summer. I like the fat rear tires on yours! Really good grip and stability I bet. Take care
I think the B7100 were in production from '76 through '85 with just minor changes. 160 hours on a B6100 is almost undeward of !! Its barely broken in. Those fat rears came of of my B2400 and are weighted foam filled. I wore out the original tires all the way around. Its really stable and will go anywhere I need to take it !! Of course its been remanded to buzz saw duty for a number of years because it does such a good job and is economical to run all day. Thanks Tom for the talk....good luck with your 6100, its just about unstoppable !! Stay Warm and take care.
Grand pa had a buzz saw he ran on his 1957 John Deere 520 and I wish I still had the saw but at least I still have the tractor
A lot of the front mount buzz saws on old John Deeres were 'slide tables'...some called them 'rolller tables'. I think I have one that's all rusted up from laying in the dirt for decades. Its good to know you have the 520...that's the important part.
Where do you get blades for a buzz saw?
I keep my eye peeled at farm auctions and buy them cheap as I can. At one auction I bought a new blade mounted on a new arbor and new bearings for five bucks. It had never been installed on a frame but was rusty from sitting in a shed for 40 years or so. But I've also gotten buzz saws along with a tractor purchase too. I inspect them all for fractures at the bottom of each gullet before I put them into service. Check this out if you'd like, Its an old video but you might find it interesting: ruclips.net/video/ezvZ7u8jUwE/видео.html I have a playlist of buzz saw videos up top of the page too.
Great show tractor man 44 👍
Thanks...and I'm glad to see you enjoyed it Dave.
I don`t have a buzz saw but I would go for it...not scared at all....When you work on them saws you just turn the little switch on and your safety alertness is heightened a bit....good and true talk...CHEERS
You're right Gator....keep your head outta your tail end like my old man always said....LOL. The main thing is to keep the offal kicked away from your feet while working around the blade.
For small wood that one person can lift a buzz saw is faster than a chain saw on a sawbuck. For large wood a chain saw is better. I've used both.
Yes I agree with that. I have found that a maximum of 8'' to 9'' is best cut with the buzz saw. The big advantage to me is carrying the loads of pole wood in lengths back to be cut right at the shed and tossed in, instead of all the bending over to pick up all the pieces in the woods when using a chainsaw.
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I’m repairing a buzz saw right now it’s a beauty machine , I believe both chainsaws and buzz saws have their place
Yessir, agreed. You can't do it ALL with either one but you can use both to complement each other. Is yours a Dearborn, Ferguson or another brand..? Three point or stationary...?
@@tractorman4461 3 point stationary , running it off the back of a Massey 35 diesel (1958)
@@MrBusy427 Awesome !! Will you be uploading any videos of the repairs or of it in operation..?
@@tractorman4461 well the majority of it is done but I’ll put a video up of its operation once it’s done another week or two
@@MrBusy427 Cool. Let me know when you do, if you don't mind. I enjoy watching buzz saw videos.
Good thoughts Wendel. I am a about your age and definitely understand. One must know his limitations, because some mature quicker than others.lol Have a great holiday season and all the best to you and your family from Canada.
Heck yeah....I done matured and got wore almost all the way out already so I GOTTA be conservative with my movements !! LOL. Thank you Mr Fixit for the Holiday Wishes and we wish the same for you and yours as well.
Fantastic man of God and great patience. Your are God's man. Soo well versed in alot. Now make more videos and upload how to make a small trailer that I can haul limbs out of the woods behind my zero turn and how to make a leaf and grass attachment with said trailer. They want soo much money these days for everything. You are the undisputed king of hard work here on line. I love you Bud!!!!🤠🥳👍
Well Chris, I've never even sat on a zero turn but a trailer should be no problem if there is a way to hook it on the back end. We have built a good number of inexpensive trailers out of scrap 250 gallon fuel oil tanks. They are the perfect size for a large lawn mower or small compact utility tractor like the little Kubotas. We have made every one out of nothing but scrap materials from trash hoppers on jobsites. Thank you for the litany kind words concerning my channel and the things we do here.
Very much agree Sir. Thank you for those " Words of wisdom " Liked,shared. I went from the big chainsaws of the 60's my Dad owned to the small plugin type they sell today. My footing is bad . Whoever said " Golden years " Needs to be shot. : ) All my very best.
Yessir, when I was younger and my dad would say things like...'You'll get old one day...' I remember thinking, yeah, but I won't be all stiff like you. Boy !! Was I WRONG !! I no longer have the agility to jump and land softly, my steps in the leaves and brush are more easily turned into a slip or mis step and so much of that is with a running chainsaw. So I really think the safety level is much higher for older guys using the buzz saw for the trimmed limbs. We just don't bend or move nearly as good as we did just ten short years ago, much less thirty or forty !! Thanks Bobby for watching, I just found it this morning.
Do you know what brand that saw is?
This one here has no markings. It was left in the woods to rot down up at my neighbors house. I've had it for probably 30 years at least and converted it to a three point from its stationary design many moons ago. The frame was all but rotted away. That's a John Deere right angle drive I installed underneath it to be powered by the pto.
@@tractorman4461 , you did a good job on the right angle drive. I would have guessed that wasn't factory, but not for sure.
@@tractortalkwithgary1271 One of my very first videos covered the materials of the conversion and how it was done.ruclips.net/video/WmhUk52fMdk/видео.html Its real grainy for some reason, but I was just getting started on RUclips. LOL
@@tractorman4461 , just went back and watched it again. I had watched it before as the "like" button was hi lighted.
Good day Sir, I realy like your story about chocolat milk over a little tough girl !!! Yep, I agree with you every truck Cie has the strong point and weak points too !!! You do not try to sell me the great advantage of having a buzz saw !!! One of these days I will have one for sure and doing things slower and surely !!! Great video Sir and all the best for you and your love one's Sir Cheers !!!
You won't be disappointed with a buzz saw Dave, I guarantee it !! Happy New Year to you and your fuzzy little four legged buddies and of course Marie Angie.
@@tractorman4461 Thank you kindly Sir and yes born and rise with these Buzz Saw ! Thank you very Kindly Sir Cheers !!!
good old saw and faster then a chain saw as well
Thanks Drew I did a lot of work on that old saw to make it quazi-modern. It was originally a stationary rig powered with a big old electric motor. Btw, You playing any tunes with Ol' Grizz lately..?? Hahahahaha, I like that old codger.
Everybody has their own opinion. and they're all wrong. Keep on BUZZIN'. Semper Fi.
Yessir Ron its kinda like one man's trash is another man's treasure.....one man's bad opinion is another man's good opinion !! That's what makes the world go around. S/F my friend.
HELLO BUZZ SAW OPERATOR I HAVE USED A BUZZ A LOT BUT I DON,T HEAR YOUR TRACTOR REVVING OPENING THE GOVERNERS AND THEIR WAS A RING FROM THE BLADE I AM 77 NOW AND MISS THOSE DAYS IVAN FROM ILLINOIS.
Good Morning Ivan. I usually run the little Kubota with the throttle wide open. When I use the other buzz saw with the International H or the Massey Harris 30 and the flat belt, I run them at 1/4 or so. Then when I get into a tough cut, you can hear the governors open pretty good. If you miss running a buzz saw, come across the river for a while and either feed or off bear for me. We'll have a cuppa coffee and talk old times with buzz saws !! Have a great day and thanks for sharing your memories.
Yessir, to each his own,.. as they say. Around here and among folks I know, the common argument is,.. " my Ford is better than your Chev, and, my RAM beats a Ford any day, and on it goes all around a circle, but they all drink the same brand of coffee from the same store. Hahaha!
Hahahahaha...Reg, its almost like people LIKE to argue....LOL. It reminds me of the one biggest controversy of all time: What came first, the chicken or the egg....?? Not THAT's an important topic to argue over. LOL Thanks for stopping in for a few minutes sir and please, have a superb week ending with a Very Happy New Year's beginning.
Great stuff brother
Eric, being's how this is the second of the series of buzz saw videos I've seen you comment on, do you have or are you considering the purchase of one ? Here's a 20 video playlist for your convenience if you so desire: ruclips.net/p/PLk72G9DTzZ1vR5HU-MFrvAt8RCHx_nK5k
@@tractorman4461 Thx! I have one and was afraid to use it thx!! Love the channel!!!
@@tractorman4461 Such great info...I really enjoyed watching and learned alot for sure
@@ericbunksvintagesportsman6311 Awesome Eric !! If you have any questions, feel free to ask in a comment and if I have a suggestion I will surely provide it to you.
@@tractorman4461 Thanks again and Merry Christmas !
hi there another good one and well said . i this old dog will just run after to ball in the usual way . no new tricks . and you put it well , what works best for you is best for you . . now about free wood and other free things . always said have to be PHYSICAL fit to be cheep . cause your going to get a work out . take care john
Good Evening John....I can relate to all you said right there in just a few short sentences....Yessir I can. Have a super week and Happy New Year !!
@@tractorman4461 same back at you john
Still gotta trim the branches, so why not size the log rite there.
It takes more of our limited time to make extra cuts and extra lifts on site. Its more time conscious to haul logs as long as possible on the 24' and 26' trailers. Less cuts, less trips with the loader gets more product on each load quicker. Once home we are no longer restricted to the same time constraints.
It's just a variation of why we don't buck the logs in to blocks for the wood splitter on site. Too much movement and too many parts take too much time. We get the most logs back home and staged for either the wood pile or sawmill with the least time and effort.
Ive cut every firewood tree on my three acres where I reside. So I cut my firewood over at my farm. So I must haul all of it here on my truck. and I still dont cut pole wood with my chainsaw. I cut them about six to 8 feet long . That way it dont require as much bending over lifting and carrying them to the Pickup. Lately I have been cutting them up to desired length at home with a chainsaw. However i do own a Buzz Saw and need to put it back in operation. possibly power it from the belt pulley of my Super A Farmall
The Super A pulley is on the back of the tractor...?? Or am I thinking wrong. At any rate, once you get it hooked up and dialed in I bet you are gonna go back to liking it again !! I try to always cut poles and carry out of the woods. Its a rare occasion when I block them in the woods. It does happen, but rarely. Thanks Randall for letting me know you are one of the enlightened few with a buzz saw....now to just get it back up and running.....
We had a buzz saw/bucksaw on the farm.. ran the saw with the Farmall H. My Twine brother and I would be spliting the logs with wedges and 12 pound hammer so Dad could handle them on the bucksaw.
Soooo many fellows have let me know these videos sparked memories of times working with their dads or granddads. Thanks for adding a memory of your own to the list. You boys had the HARD job though!!
Can you tell how many RPM yours saw blade do and what's the diameter of it?
Iirc, that particular blade is 31''. The saw arbor at wide open throttle is running between 600 and 650 rpm. These bearings cannot sustain much higher than that. If they were a pillow block roller bearing I could run it a bit faster, but I always consider the age and condition of the individual blades. A old 60-70 year old work hardened blade could be susceptible to cracking and coming apart with high rpm operation. If this was a new carbide blade on the correct bearings and shaft it would be running a lot faster. This Kubota has a three speed pto...540, 750 and 1000 rpm's at wide open throttle. Thanks for watching, showing interest and leaving a comment as well !!
@@tractorman4461 I also have buzz saw, plan to install on it electric motor. i have 25" blade. It's also buzz saw plade but made in soviet union.
It would run about 1600 RPM. What you think is it too much or it's ok? Angular velocity would be about 45 meters in second (about 147 feet in one second).
Greetings from Estonia.
@@loodusefilm7881 I'd have a tendency to think its a bit too high. You'll need to verify the maximum allowable rpm on the bearings. Then unless your blade has deep gullets, the teeth may not clear at that speed on thicker material. The gullet gives the sawdust a place to stay until the tooth comes out the other side, then it must fall from the gullet to clear the tooth. That high of speed may carry sawdust back into the cut instead of slinging it clear. These old ones here run an arbor speed of 600 to 700(max) rpm and as you can see it does a fair job, even on larger diameter. I limit my cuts to 8'' or 9'' in diameter. I would think the maximum rpm for buzz saw styles of machines top out around 900 to 1000 rpm on new equipment with new components.
Of course running an electric motor you will have to be concerned with full load amps of the motor (now its called RLA or running load amps). Would that be 360 volts 3 phase 50 Hz over in Estonia ? Or is it 230 volt three phase or singe phase 50 Hz. I think that most of Europe is 50 hz. And I thought a lot of places were 360 volts. Anyway, easy rpm adjustments would be with simple sheave changes though. I'd calculate the diameter needed, then select an adjustable dual sheave for the drive motor to accomplish the first phase of rpm adjustment. Might only have to buy one sheave for a change that way. Good Luck and let me know what you do to make it work safely and reliably.
@@tractorman4461 We have 400v 3 phase 50Hz and 240v between neutral and phase. Engine is 4 kW, it's about 5,3 hp. Don't know what bearings are in there but they are pretty big. Bearing bracket diameter is about 4 inch, shaft diameter is about 1,8 inch. I allready have pulleys on shaft and on electic motor i have pulley with minimum allowed diameter for B profile V-belt. I think at first i do test start and will see what bearings do and how blade behave. It's hard to change pulley on saw blade shaft.
For 25" blade 1500-1600 RPM is good speed if it's modern blade. My buzzsaw blade thoots are maybe little bigger than you have.
I will let you know how test run will go and on what speed i will go to make saw safe and sound. Thanks for giving your opinion, you make great videos :)
@@loodusefilm7881 This will be interesting to see what you come up with. I've not ran any big saws with an electric motor so I really can't venture a guess as to what to expect. What is a 5.3 hp electric motor equal to in gasoline....around 8.5 Hp ? Could you tell me the rpm of the motor and the sheave sizes possibly ? I'd like to think about what the blade arbor rpm might be. You have an interesting project and thank you for sharing your ideas . Oh, I'm not concerned about the motor bearings, just the shaft bearings....grease able flange mount ball bearings maybe ? Some of those are rated very high maximum rpm. A lot of the limitations are due to heat generation I think. Thank you for the nice comment about the videos too !!
Well said, you will have to show us your wood burning setup. You have a lot of wood ready to go
My forced air wood furnace is from 1980 and two of the three grates are broken. Replacements are not available. If I can find T-3 steel grating or AR-400 plate, I'd like to makeshift something to support the wood and coals. It still works fine, its just real hard to extract the ashes. I've started rebuilding a Hardy outdoor wood boiler for the shed that was totally destroyed in an outbuilding fire. That will be a comprehensive series because I poured 1200 linear feet of 1/2'' od pex tubing in the concrete with 4 equal and independent circuits that will come out of a manifold. I wanted to be done by now, but...you know... stuff happens. Thanks for the comment !!
Tractorman44 to bad I wasn't closer, I have access to a bunch of ar400 plate
@@a.l.l.firewood8883 That'd be cool. I could easily plasma cut passages for the combustion air to flow up as well as the ashes to drop down through. Oh well...thank you for the kind offer.
You have probably been doing that longer than I've been alive so I know you know what you are doing but I would be scared to death to stand in front of the blade. I just a minute ago read a comment on here where a father in law got killed when a blade turned loose and hit the man in the head and arm. Please be careful and I love your saw! I'm looking for one now
Yes, those stories abound Eric. You'd have to be over 60 to surpass my time on the buzz saw. And may I add, never a scratch from the blade or a problem with the belt. My son is 36 now and has been on the saw since he was 10 or so as well. Now he works one of them at his house with his wife: video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?fr=yhs-trp-001&ei=UTF-8&hsimp=yhs-001&hspart=trp&p=daughter+in+law+and+the+buzz+saw+tractorman44&type=Y143_F163_201897_032921#action=view&id=1&vid=aa084946cb941e7d8a61ffff5c951d97
44 things are dangerous when you don't pay attention the only buzz saw I ever used was mounted on the front of a 44 had to be careful when driving in woods watch that blade out in front
God Bless All
PaK
Yes Peter, a front mount rig really sits out there a ways ! We never ran one on either of the 44's, but we did run a front mount on the 101 Junior and 101 Super. I'm sure you were preached to by the same Dad that preached to me about running into something with that thing on front. LOL.
I agree with you 100% 44Friend Wendell, I wish I had a rig like that! Beats a chain saw big time. SAFTEY? Like driving a car, drive smart and sober, except for a cuppaJO which I tip your way! A delightful 44 adventure and I Thank You Kindly! Me best to All at 44 Headquarters! DaveyJO
Yessir DaveyJO...wouldn't wanna drop that super hot cuppa JO on a fellow's lap huh.... Thanks for tuning in and taking a looksee my friend. HEY....The Missus and I got something for the holler !! We both thank you very much for going to all that trouble. My daughter is working on something we was gonna stuff in the envelope, tape it shut and mark it 'RETURN TO SENDER'.....LOL. See you didn't know I was such a cheapskate did ya !!??? Naw...just kidding. Uncle Sam needs us to pay for our mailings...I wouldn't cheat him outta that. So keep an eye out....one of these days when you least expect it....BAM !~! Take care and give Alice the big old Missouri HOWDY from us down this a ways. JO in the morning....we'll probably have another cup together then.
cool saw get some
Hahahahahaha....yessir you can get as much as you can handle with one of these running in good shape and sharp !! Thanks for the comment David !!
I like that set up. I cut my logs 12' then pick them up with the backhoe and thumb to waist high then use the chainsaw. Any big rounds I use the hoe to pick them up onto a table that's log splitter height. It's a bicth getting old
Hahahaha...yes, its a bit tough on a guy getting a few years under the belt...but I can tell you for sure it beats the alternative !! LOL. Its cool to see the techniques different guys come up with to deal with the wood they process. There are no 'only one way' to do anything because a fellow has to remember there's always a guy with another plan of attack right around the corner !! Thanks for taking a look at the old saw rig.
Hope you learned your lesson early in life about arguing with women!! LOL Another cool video, thanks!
Hahahahaha...she WAS tough. I think she became president of the debate team....or the martial arts team. One or the other. LOL