Guuuuuys, I've seen alot of these videos. With all these tricks to make the latency a little bit better.. my genious mind figured out that u just need to go to prefrences, look for 'driver error compensation' and what ever is the latency write that but with a - minus and press enter, problem solved, f.eks 46 ms latency. Enter -46. Worked for me. Hope this fixes ur problem
It turns out I've been learning to play keys for 7 years with 56 ms of latency. Dropped buffer size to 64 - now it's 11 ms, almost unnoticeable. Thank you!
I did what you said about get an audio interface! OMG it's the best thing I've ever made, 0 latency and I feel free much more confident when I play it!! Huge thanks
I have a different menu altogether, probably from the new ableton update. Instead of just "buffer size," I see "Input Buffer Size" and it doesn't let me go below 216. There are no more options, you just scroll up and down like a meter. I'm bewildered here.
20 years ago, I stopped using Midi controllers because of Latency but back then, I had a modest PC... A few days ago, I got a Roland A-49 Midi controller and it comes with an Ableton Lite 11 license. I installed it on my 5500$ system that I got last spring for Video, 3D production and Flight Simulation. I though that the 32GB of DDR4 RAM with an i9 10900K CPU overclocked to 5.3GHZ and a couple of SSD Drives should be a joke for the Midi thing... But I was horrified with the Latency I can't fix... Because if I put the buffer below 800 something, I hear noise and distortion... At 800 it is OK but the latency is still annoyingly there... So I am not sure this has to do with how much RAM or CPU one has, because my system can handle way more complex things than a piano plugin in a DAW... I believe the way the program(s) are coded and how it deals with the system hardware is the thing... Or the problem?
also from something i understand, a lot of the software is stuck essentially using one core of your processor, so if you can get an app to route system resources to other cores than what the daw wants to use, it can help a lot, but i have only read about this and not tested it myself
Thanks for the tip, didn't realise buffer size affected midi latency, but you're right it does appear to. It could though be the delay before you hear the audio from the virtual instruments processing the midi.
i got roland ed pc-160a via midi to usb my issue is when i press a key its fine but when i press next key non stop nothing then i hear it again sometimes i hear 2 notes at once then 1 note nothing 1 note after 3 secs whats causing this
so I gues for a beginner with a laptop and blue tooth speakers a MIDI controller wil resolve everyting? I got my latency much better after this video so thank you for that
For me, turning on direct monitor on my scarlett solo does the trick, i hear myself in time, but my recording in ableton is still off by a lot. Any tips?
Thank you for this video. As someone who records with Ableton Live as well, I've learned that assuming a fairly fast computer (3 Ghz or faster) and enough RAM (8 Gig or higher), there is a fourth reason for audio latency other than the most discussed three (too high buffering size; too low sampling rate; unfrozen tracks): TOO MANY TRACKS! Yes, when I get more than 12-15 tracks, latency starts to creep in. My personal solution since I can't sing well with latency of anything bigger than maybe 20 milliseconds for the vocal track is start a NEW Set! Mix down all your tracks except for the vocal track (if you had one), put it into your new Set, and now you should have no latency for as many vocal takes as you need to create the perfect vocal track (typically, 3 or 4 takes). Once you have your vocal track, export it somewhere, delete the Set you used, and re-insert that vocal track into the set that had so many tracks that you suffered audio recording latency. This is not really that big a headache, but it is a workaround that I use for such instances when I have over 15 tracks....
Hi! I changed my buffer sizes to 512 (in) and 1200 (out) and have still a huge annoying latency via midi. I'm using Win 10, a Yamaha YC73 and it's Steinberg usb driver. The delay between the YC73 and a VST in Ableton feels like 100 to 200ms. My CPU is bored by max 5% even when I hit a lot of key at the same time (Intel i7, 4GHz, 32GB). I had the same issue using an Arturia masterkeyboard and Arturia Analog Lab. Other midi devices at the midi out of YC73 or a Msterkeyboard reacts instantly. Any idea?
try reducing your buffer size and increasing your sample rate incrementally until you reach a point where moving further would cause dropouts-that's your sweet spot
If you are like me and dont have an audio interface, just get asio4all and it most often will get you way more performance out of your computer's realtek audio card.
@@KPsTboy I've not experienced that personally. It's possible its a quirk of your sound card? i have noticed increasing sample rate increases loudness, which i dont really understand the science of.
I dont understand yet how you guys get the first buffer size under Latency to be a drop-down... maybe it has to do with the audio driver and my audio driver sucks.
Sir, I am using the Ableton Live 12 Standard version, my issue is that the pitch of my all tracks are goes down automatically when I restart my PC or when I rdender all tracks through the main out. Please help me to fix this issue.
when i go to preferences, audio, hardware configuration to change the sample rates to record without latency it doesnt do anything. when i press the button it doesn't appear the option to change it. So when i record, i record with latency. Maybe my interface is blocking this option to ableton ? i have an antelope 8 discrete.
Didnt help sadly. My buffer is auto set to 4092 samples, but if i put any lower the signal is so distorted its unrecognizable. As it is, it creates 150ms of delay which is horrible.
hi , I've only got ableton live 10 lite , only use a couple vst plugins to do liveplay performances as I'm a musician & getting into producing etc , what's the best setting u recommend just for general playing 🎹 and not producing ? many thanks
I have a Mac ook pro M3 Max with 128Mb ram and the latency is mental. I can play two notes before I hear anything yet in Logic its fine? Why do you think this is so in Abelton? The CPU monitor is only on 3% and the max it ever goes up to is 6%
My "sweet spot" for not getting any horrible noises when i play has ALOT of delay when i play. Its like 0,30 sec delay... Anyone got any tips on what hardware i need to upgrade?
So... where to start. First, the meter up in the corner is just the CPU, if you had an issue then you had a bottle neck, upgrading RAM should not, if your not bottle neck, improve the load on your cpu. Next, just upping the buffer without also increasing the sample rate is going to do nothing to improve the situation, unless your experiencing stutter, and in that case, why would you play with crappy nasty glitches and stutter? Finaly what about Driver Error Compensation? You dont adress it at all?
Cpu or ram ? Hi buddy ! Thx you for tips and video. I fortunately I still experience the same problème. What is crazy. On a blank project, it’s fine. As soon as there is few lines/audio latency start. Even if I freeze all audio, with only 2/3% of cpu used. Really frustrating. Using an old MacBook Pro, i5, 2012, 8gb and ssd. Asking myself if it’s cpu or ram problem (would it fix with 16gb ....?) I use maschine mk3 sound card Thx !
great explanation! have a question tho, I noticed that with wireless headphones the latency is more significant, but well, this is when not using the studio headphones. Wanted to ask if for example I would use wireless ones but with a studio sound like for example ATH-M50xBT would the latency still be as big as before, or is it better to use wired ones?
Hey man that was useful however when I lower my input buffer size it will only go as low as 256 sample, it didn't make a noticeable difference. Do you know if there is a way to lower my input buffer size lower than 256 sample?
@@natpikesolo well to be honest just got my midi controller today and was just using Ableton's suite preset for instruments. I have not installed anything else than the full suite. What should I be using?
@@b4ttlephilprods320 I would suggest getting more ram for your computer, or closing down all the background applications. An easy fix would be to get an external audio interface, they are pretty cheap and make the audio run very smoothly on any computer.
even 5ms is too much for my brain I'm the kinda person that grew up playing guitar hero on hyper speed 3 expert the slightest bit of lag fucks me up and my direct monitor is super quite so i can't even rely on that
What is your computer specs? I have ryzen 3 1200 3000GHz 8GB of RAM (GTX1050ti). When ever I set mine below 1000 buffer size it already starts cracking :(
@@StudioHacks Oh so the audtio interface fixes the lag too? People tell me to use asio4allv2 and it fixes the lag like magic. but i dont have system sound. any other audio driver is giving me lag. asio4allv2 is just really fast man. So hopefully an external audio interface can fix the lag indeed, instead of me using asio4allv2.
@@StudioHacks hey, i have been researching trying to stop latency, i lower the buffer size and get horrific distortion below 130 ms , but cpu is fine, my laptop specs should be morethan good enough, so idk what the problem is. do you have any other ideas? this is for midi recording btw, im not so fussed about audio. thanks for the vid
Hmm, so I hear a difference, but I'm nowhere near those 10ms if I want to prevent crackles, while the usage percentage won't go above 7%... What really boggles me though is how this influences - what I'd like to call - MIDI latency. I connected a small USB audio interface which further decreased this latency. How the heck can an audio interface have impact on this latency as it doesn't have anything to do with audio??
Guuuuuys, I've seen alot of these videos. With all these tricks to make the latency a little bit better.. my genious mind figured out that u just need to go to prefrences, look for 'driver error compensation' and what ever is the latency write that but with a - minus and press enter, problem solved, f.eks 46 ms latency. Enter -46. Worked for me. Hope this fixes ur problem
This!
It turns out I've been learning to play keys for 7 years with 56 ms of latency. Dropped buffer size to 64 - now it's 11 ms, almost unnoticeable. Thank you!
I've got 90 -.-
I did what you said about get an audio interface! OMG it's the best thing I've ever made, 0 latency and I feel free much more confident when I play it!! Huge thanks
I have a different menu altogether, probably from the new ableton update. Instead of just "buffer size," I see "Input Buffer Size" and it doesn't let me go below 216. There are no more options, you just scroll up and down like a meter. I'm bewildered here.
same
20 years ago, I stopped using Midi controllers because of Latency but back then, I had a modest PC... A few days ago, I got a Roland A-49 Midi controller and it comes with an Ableton Lite 11 license. I installed it on my 5500$ system that I got last spring for Video, 3D production and Flight Simulation. I though that the 32GB of DDR4 RAM with an i9 10900K CPU overclocked to 5.3GHZ and a couple of SSD Drives should be a joke for the Midi thing... But I was horrified with the Latency I can't fix... Because if I put the buffer below 800 something, I hear noise and distortion... At 800 it is OK but the latency is still annoyingly there... So I am not sure this has to do with how much RAM or CPU one has, because my system can handle way more complex things than a piano plugin in a DAW... I believe the way the program(s) are coded and how it deals with the system hardware is the thing... Or the problem?
800 hundred is still a monstrous buffer size.
also from something i understand, a lot of the software is stuck essentially using one core of your processor, so if you can get an app to route system resources to other cores than what the daw wants to use, it can help a lot, but i have only read about this and not tested it myself
Thanks for the tip, didn't realise buffer size affected midi latency, but you're right it does appear to. It could though be the delay before you hear the audio from the virtual instruments processing the midi.
Really helpful thanks! Does increasing sample rate before exporting (in your case mixing) impact the latency/quality of exported tracks?
could have been a 30 second video
Go make one quicker then, bb
i got roland ed pc-160a via midi to usb my issue is when i press a key its fine but when i press next key non stop nothing then i hear it again sometimes i hear 2 notes at once then 1 note nothing 1 note after 3 secs whats causing this
so I gues for a beginner with a laptop and blue tooth speakers a MIDI controller wil resolve everyting? I got my latency much better after this video so thank you for that
For me, turning on direct monitor on my scarlett solo does the trick, i hear myself in time, but my recording in ableton is still off by a lot. Any tips?
That's what direct monitoring does?? Thank you, this solved my problem.
Thank you for this video. As someone who records with Ableton Live as well, I've learned that assuming a fairly fast computer (3 Ghz or faster) and enough RAM (8 Gig or higher), there is a fourth reason for audio latency other than the most discussed three (too high buffering size; too low sampling rate; unfrozen tracks): TOO MANY TRACKS! Yes, when I get more than 12-15 tracks, latency starts to creep in. My personal solution since I can't sing well with latency of anything bigger than maybe 20 milliseconds for the vocal track is start a NEW Set! Mix down all your tracks except for the vocal track (if you had one), put it into your new Set, and now you should have no latency for as many vocal takes as you need to create the perfect vocal track (typically, 3 or 4 takes). Once you have your vocal track, export it somewhere, delete the Set you used, and re-insert that vocal track into the set that had so many tracks that you suffered audio recording latency. This is not really that big a headache, but it is a workaround that I use for such instances when I have over 15 tracks....
im using a sound card (focusrite). changing driver type to ASIO and then the device to thunderbolt did the trick for me
YOO this worked!! thank you!
In my preferences there is no option to change the buffer size. Unless I change the driver to MME DIRECT X. Which is bad apparently
Hi! I changed my buffer sizes to 512 (in) and 1200 (out) and have still a huge annoying latency via midi. I'm using Win 10, a Yamaha YC73 and it's Steinberg usb driver. The delay between the YC73 and a VST in Ableton feels like 100 to 200ms. My CPU is bored by max 5% even when I hit a lot of key at the same time (Intel i7, 4GHz, 32GB). I had the same issue using an Arturia masterkeyboard and Arturia Analog Lab. Other midi devices at the midi out of YC73 or a Msterkeyboard reacts instantly. Any idea?
try reducing your buffer size and increasing your sample rate incrementally until you reach a point where moving further would cause dropouts-that's your sweet spot
Dude me too. My computer is YAWNING and unless I manually put in notes with a keyboard and mouse it's unusable.
512 is a huge buffer size, bring it down for less latency. Can be as simple as that, as this video demonstrates.
If you are like me and dont have an audio interface, just get asio4all and it most often will get you way more performance out of your computer's realtek audio card.
Thanks! Volume output is much lower though?
@@KPsTboy I've not experienced that personally. It's possible its a quirk of your sound card? i have noticed increasing sample rate increases loudness, which i dont really understand the science of.
@@TwickenStep Could be loudness, perceived als volume, not sure anymore. Anyhoo, some lack of knowledge here too...
Watching this on my drive I hope this fixes my problem!! Thanks
Hi there! thanks for the video. Dont you use the driver error compensation?
When i set my buffer size to 128, my input is under 10 ms but my output is 200ms. Do you know why my output could be so high? Thanks for the vid!
Are you using ASIO4ALL? Thats the standard asio driver and adds more latency than the dedicated asio driver for your audiointerface
Why not use DEC ( driver error compensation)?
Thanks , it helped me a lot
Anyone know if ableton lite 12 has the same settings? I'm pulling up preferences but there is a sample section that's greyed out
I dont understand yet how you guys get the first buffer size under Latency to be a drop-down... maybe it has to do with the audio driver and my audio driver sucks.
Sir, I am using the Ableton Live 12 Standard version, my issue is that the pitch of my all tracks are goes down automatically when I restart my PC or when I rdender all tracks through the main out. Please help me to fix this issue.
Does this work on drum pads?
Can you think of any reason why it wouldn't?
What PC do you recommend buying for music production?
i have abelton live 11 lite. there is no drop down for the buffer size… how do i fix that?
I can't change the buffer size :(
I can't get my keyboard to work and idea why? Plus I can't change the buffer size
On Live 11 now and as the version goes up so does the latency, can't get below 243 ms now before distortion kicks in.
when i go to preferences, audio, hardware configuration to change the sample rates to record without latency it doesnt do anything. when i press the button it doesn't appear the option to change it. So when i record, i record with latency.
Maybe my interface is blocking this option to ableton ? i have an antelope 8 discrete.
yeah sometimes the option has to be changed at the level of the interface depending on which one you have i think
@@StudioHacks just made it, it had to be set up from the interface software. Thank you for your help :)
@@jorgesaidcaro8893 great, glad it worked out 👍
Didnt help sadly. My buffer is auto set to 4092 samples, but if i put any lower the signal is so distorted its unrecognizable. As it is, it creates 150ms of delay which is horrible.
i have midi latency using my keyboard and my midi controller, it's annoying because in other program like garageband I don't have this issue
At 75, I'm a total beginner and your video just made my day. Thanks! : )
What about if you EXPORT the midi and the export is not only lagged.....but the timing of when you played the notes and the rhythm is all weird.
hi , I've only got ableton live 10 lite , only use a couple vst plugins to do liveplay performances as I'm a musician & getting into producing etc , what's the best setting u recommend just for general playing 🎹 and not producing ? many thanks
I cannot change my buffer size somehow? I’m using a Scarlett 2i2 3rd gen into a Asus Vivobook laptop with 16 Gb ram and an i7, anyone has any idea?
I wish I watched your video first 🥺
lol well now you know
Great vid!
I have a Mac ook pro M3 Max with 128Mb ram and the latency is mental. I can play two notes before I hear anything yet in Logic its fine? Why do you think this is so in Abelton? The CPU monitor is only on 3% and the max it ever goes up to is 6%
My "sweet spot" for not getting any horrible noises when i play has ALOT of delay when i play. Its like 0,30 sec delay... Anyone got any tips on what hardware i need to upgrade?
Thank you.
WATCHING YOUR VIDEO JUST SAVED ME £5800, THANK YOU BROTHER :)
Is the driver error compensation useful?
I can't even change my buffer size...... It doesn't give me the option to do it.
A few others had this problem and it seems that the buffer size needs to be changed from your audio interface software.
@@StudioHacks thank you
@@In_Conclusion 👍
can external usb card solve issue? i'm using at2020usb+ & asio4all as sound interface. Or with the sound card and asio 2.0 it will be the same shit?
Most people won’t notice latency from 11ms down, however there are some people that are more sensitive to hearing it even lower.
Im using core i9 13th gen and latency is still like 7ms thats too much for me
So... where to start.
First, the meter up in the corner is just the CPU, if you had an issue then you had a bottle neck, upgrading RAM should not, if your not bottle neck, improve the load on your cpu.
Next, just upping the buffer without also increasing the sample rate is going to do nothing to improve the situation, unless your experiencing stutter, and in that case, why would you play with crappy nasty glitches and stutter?
Finaly what about Driver Error Compensation? You dont adress it at all?
Extremely helpful thank you🙏🙏🙏
Glad it was helpful!
Really helped me!!!! Thank you! Liked and subscribed :)
great stuff man thanks a million!
Thanks a lot for this !
Cpu or ram ?
Hi buddy !
Thx you for tips and video.
I fortunately I still experience the same problème. What is crazy.
On a blank project, it’s fine. As soon as there is few lines/audio latency start. Even if I freeze all audio, with only 2/3% of cpu used.
Really frustrating.
Using an old MacBook Pro, i5, 2012, 8gb and ssd.
Asking myself if it’s cpu or ram problem (would it fix with 16gb ....?)
I use maschine mk3 sound card
Thx !
Thanks man, appreciate you!
great explanation! have a question tho, I noticed that with wireless headphones the latency is more significant, but well, this is when not using the studio headphones. Wanted to ask if for example I would use wireless ones but with a studio sound like for example ATH-M50xBT would the latency still be as big as before, or is it better to use wired ones?
for music stuffs, it is not recommended to use wireless headphones, because it will having some latency...
@@zaiffsharqil Legend you just solved my latency problems, I use wireless headphones !
Hey man that was useful however when I lower my input buffer size it will only go as low as 256 sample, it didn't make a noticeable difference. Do you know if there is a way to lower my input buffer size lower than 256 sample?
are you using an audio interface? also Mac or PC
I upgraded to a Focusrite 18io. For the most part it's cleared up all my problem.
what do you do when your buffer size wont go low, mine is max 720 or else it clicks and stutters
do you have an audio interface?
@@natpikesolo well to be honest just got my midi controller today and was just using Ableton's suite preset for instruments. I have not installed anything else than the full suite. What should I be using?
@@natpikesolo I am pretty much starting from scratch. Explain to me like im five 😂😂
Where is this "maximum" value being shown?
Download"ASIO4ALL"
It's a free audio driver and has relatively low latency and upto 2048 buffer size.
@@b4ttlephilprods320 I would suggest getting more ram for your computer, or closing down all the background applications. An easy fix would be to get an external audio interface, they are pretty cheap and make the audio run very smoothly on any computer.
Great video, thanks dude
Thanks... Very helpful man!
It makes it sound like a short delay. I have latency.
thanks so much! cheers
thank you. helped me alot
Useful video, thank you
Thanks 😊👍
Nice one, thanks
thank you!
thank you a lot!
Thank you!!!!!!
If you use an audio interface will it make less latency?
Usually, yes.
yea
15.6ms at 688 samples and it still feels too delayed...
11.6ms at 512 samples sounds like a crapy robot...
even 5ms is too much for my brain I'm the kinda person that grew up playing guitar hero on hyper speed 3 expert the slightest bit of lag fucks me up and my direct monitor is super quite so i can't even rely on that
I have a great pc and it still sucks. Can’t go below 2k without it dying
I have 32 gb of ram
Why am I still getting BAD latency? Annoying as fuck
What is your computer specs? I have ryzen 3 1200 3000GHz 8GB of RAM (GTX1050ti). When ever I set mine below 1000 buffer size it already starts cracking :(
I would suggest getting an external audio interface, better sound quality and fixes problems with lag and clicking
@@StudioHacks Oh so the audtio interface fixes the lag too? People tell me to use asio4allv2 and it fixes the lag like magic. but i dont have system sound. any other audio driver is giving me lag. asio4allv2 is just really fast man. So hopefully an external audio interface can fix the lag indeed, instead of me using asio4allv2.
@@StudioHacks hey, i have been researching trying to stop latency, i lower the buffer size and get horrific distortion below 130 ms , but cpu is fine, my laptop specs should be morethan good enough, so idk what the problem is. do you have any other ideas? this is for midi recording btw, im not so fussed about audio. thanks for the vid
@@joe_laird asio4all solved it for me.
it doesn't fix the problem and i have very power-full system 😤😤 i fed up with this program
Thanks. My latency is atrocious.
Hmm, so I hear a difference, but I'm nowhere near those 10ms if I want to prevent crackles, while the usage percentage won't go above 7%... What really boggles me though is how this influences - what I'd like to call - MIDI latency. I connected a small USB audio interface which further decreased this latency. How the heck can an audio interface have impact on this latency as it doesn't have anything to do with audio??
"it's really thirsty" haahhahaahaha
Mine was set to 8k 💀
thank you so much!