“90mbps is not great but enough for a video call” Linus my dude, most of us are trying to deal with sub 30mbps as a maximum in the house, 90 is living the dream.
@@martymcfee4200 come to Australia, 25 Mbps is the most common base internet package with expected speeds lower then that. Who cares about supper fast Wi-Fi if your internet out the door is so crap. I'm one of the lucky few who has "Gigabit", I typically get between 500-800 Mbps, but I pay a lot for that.
@@martymcfee4200 but this was the UPGRADE to "bring us inline with the rest of the western world". Yes, a HUGE part of the country is somewhat empty, but most of the population is bunched up along the survivable east and south east coastline. The best end user internet with fibre to the premise, is in Darwin with around 4000km of internal routing before it departs the country for the rest of the world. No jokes, my internet runs directly south to Adelaide, about 3000km away before turning east for another 1000 or so km to get to the submarine data lines. Our internet (very recently improved) was so messed up that Darwin to Darwin routing went via Adelaide (6000km return trip).
I just labeled 6 of them today and consciously decided to put "AP-01" through 6 instead... Since it's going in a college residence. Don't need the un-tech-initiated snickering for no reason while we install.
@@PhenomII1090T Are you sour? Who cares if they're snickering, let them have some fun, life is shit and if something as simple as that can cheer them up good on them. SMH
I sprinkled 6 entry level Deco E4 around my farm, 2 hidden in waterproof boxes, only 2 of them hard wired and I enjoy mesh networking all around the yard and in all buildings. Great product!
Oh, my wife would love that kind of setup for our farm. Good call. I was just thinking about how to place them in some kind of waterproof container. I need to put one in the barn so my wife can watch for new baby goats being born with a camera system instead of her making a barn run to check on them every 2 hours. haha
@@CNC-Time-Lapse my only complaint is that waterproof boxes are a messy alternative for POE outdoor relays, none are compatible with Deco, unfortunately.
Just so you guys know. In the video Linus said that’s he thought the second satellite deco had to be in-range/ connected to the main deco. While you can have it connect to the main node, it can connect to the satellite as well (wirelessly or via LAN cable) in case you have a more linear set-up vs a more 2-d one. Linus’ setup is known as a star set-up while the other is called daisy chain.
Was wondering why it couldn't daisy chain.. but since they didn't do it that way, we don't know how much worse wifi gets when daisy chained 😐 And is this intended to replace a primary router or is this more just extenders by another name? Like can use together with a UDM or something like that?
@@Artificial.Unintelligence Can do both, depending on the main internet device, eg the part where some provider's products are quite annoying to turn off the router aspect of it. Or you could use it as an access point eg you didn't have any/much reception and now you do.
I know this is a SPONSORED video, but I’d love to see a video on ASUS’s AI mesh system that just uses whatever ASUS router you already have. Or a full mesh roundup (that includes the ASUS).
@@stbone6274 it's been quite some time tough, I vaguely remember something, but it HAD to have been prior to WiFi 6, and the landscape and ecosystems have to have changed since then regardless.
I had the Asus ai mesh using 2.routers and it was a horrible experience. Instead I now use the Asus Zenwifi AX6600 mesh and I freaking love it! Highly recommend.
@@kellersales Well at the moment I have an AX11000, part of the house gets no 5Ghz, which is fine because most of the time 2.4Ghz is fine there, but it can be a touch spotty in like 2 small pockets, but adding a router for mesh is kind of expensive for fixing what is a kind of small problem, so debating if I do it or wait until I upgrade the AX11000 anyway to set up mesh with that.
I got the x60s. They're great for connectivity, but I'm unable to hardwire them ATM. Throughout REALLY drops off if you use wireless only. I can't wait to hardwire them after I move.
@@dpjazzy15 had been using powerline to connect some out of the way stuff, so when I got these Deco mesh in, it was a perfect fit for the backhaul connectivity. The only thing left is to add a switch if you need multiple ethernet lines coming out from each node.
I got the budget version of the decos think the E4 models with advertised speeds of 1gigbit WiFi which is great but then they stick a 100mbps port on it so you can’t utilise the 1gigbit and I noticed you have to go through the detailed description to find that out so the second wasn’t so great for me go ubiquiti now so it’s quite a lot better
@@nizamrahman4665 yea....I have an 8 port gigabit switch, but I'm currently renting and I don't wanna run wires along trim or drill holes. It's definitely part of my plan to back haul wire all the units. I'm gonna wait until I buy a place, first. I plan on running multiple Ethernet lines to each room.
The thing is .. Li-Fi already exist, this is the Lighting Fidelity TECHNOLOGY, using light to transmit data and position between devices. Make your own research to understand what I'm talking about, if the Team of LMG don't call it Li-Fi it's probably because that doesn't make sens when this a complete other technology to use Ethernet Wirelessly.
@CGGS_Gaming by doing it in a video, it may violate trademark laws also, I'm not sure about this, but I wouldn't be surprised. Doing this at your private home/business and not posting it on YT or social media probably wouldn't get you in trouble.
I've been setting up some of the lower tier deco systems for friends who are less tech savvy. The deco M5 dual AP kit is great for most homes - always hardwired together.
It's funny how smartphones can efficiently hop between cellular network base stations all the time, but at the same time they're dumb enough to not do the same with wireless lan.
its just a hold over from old design with WIFI. Cellular was designed to hop all the time or connect to multiple towers at a time. However wifi originally wasnt intended for that, and our current use of wifi wasnt thought about. Newer wifi systems can do seemless handoff, however they're more intended for the business market, like Ubiquiti is for example. Most constumers dont use that kinda functionality
but they do, if all wifi APs have the same bssid (network name) and credentials they will. Wifi roaming has been a thing for ages. You are listening to LIENUS that is shilling for yet another sponsor
@@marcogenovesi8570 In my experience, WiFi devices are still reluctant to hop between access points (at least on older versions of WiFi). You have to use all sorts of weird hacks to make them do so. And even then, they're not great at choosing the nearest access point.
I’ve been running 3x Deco M9s through our house and they’ve been amazing with no issues, great performance and very simple setup. One thing you missed Linus is that unlike other APs and Wi-Fi extenders or boosters, these mesh networks play nicely with other Wi-Fi systems like Sonos. Sonos and other similar Wi-Fi networked systems don’t work at all, or intermittently on boosters or normal APs, but the Deco mesh network has been flawless. Small but important difference and the main reason I went for the Deco range
“90mbps is not great but enough for a video call” Linus my dude, most of us are trying to deal with sub 30mbps as a maximum in the house, 90 is living the dream.
8:35 - listen to what Linus says - the discount says it should reduce the price from $249 to $199 which is 20%, it just seems by the time the video has been released there has been a natural reduction in price to about $209, so the discount only saves you $10
I can attest for this product. Recently got a 2-pack and the speeds are exactly the same as the primary node. Just make sure to put the second node in a place where it gets good signal from the main unit!
TP-Link broke my non-ax wifi for over half a year before they finally released a patch to fix it and this is on one of their flagship 802.11ax routers. I wouldn't trust them anymore.
Some more details since this comment blew up a bit. It is the TP-Link AX6000, nothing could connect to it out of dozens of devices; laptops, windows and android tables, other phones, my roku *except* my work iphone until they released this newest(as of this post) 1.24 firmware, they even RMA'd it after a month of back and forth emails with support factory resetting and changing a setting or two every email just to have the RMA unit have the same exact issue! So I gave up which I am sure is what they wanted me to do but ya only got room for so much in life.
Current TP-Link user, I hate their app, how you need it because you can't access a few things on the router itself, and how basic features get pay-walled for some. Unless you don't care about manually and properly setting up and controlling your router never buy from them. They own your router and your data while at it.
We use decos in our home not because we have large area to cover but because we have insanely thick walls so we pretty much only had wifi in the same room as the router works like a charm
I’ve been using two of these Decos for about a year, connected by Ethernet. Small apartment, but extremely thick concrete walls always screwed up Wi-Fi. (Bought a wifi6 Asus router first but they didn’t deliver the mesh functionality they had promised on launch 🙄). Very good experience. Rock-solid performance and high speeds. The only problem has been UPNP which Xbox seems to struggle with on this router. The app for monitoring the network, even remotely, has come in handy too.
I love the deco units for my home wifi with one exception they are missing so many advanced features and ones you would expect on a standard router which is very disappointing.
well tp link target to more user friendly setup. i use multiple of mesh. the setting is simple and quick. target buyers more into normal home rather than industry with it guy. little frustrated but the product itself is already good
lol, 20 mbit is FAR below the norm in Germany. I have had 100mbit for about 10 years now myself and if I had the money, I could easily get a 1000mbit connection in a relatively small town. where do you live? in a barn in the middle of nowhere? X_x
@@zaubermaus8190 there's still a ton of places in germany where you have to use something like 20mbit DSL. Yes, most have at least 60-100mbit now but you can live on a street where your neighbour has gigabit and you don't because they didn't manage to complete the infrastructure yet
The best thing about the relative recent mesh systems (Deco X20 included) is that they have dual antennae. One for transmitting and one for receiving. This way, if you were to daisy chain them wirelessly, you don't actually get too much of a performance degradation towards the end of the chain. I found with a modest house size, 3 Deco X20s has been great, and my room which is upstairs and a few rooms away from my primary router, can hit my ISP's rated bandwidth of 500Mbps. This is a huge improvement over the 80-100Mbps I used to get with my old router.
I'm curious why you only got 350Mbps when the mesh AP was connected by ethernet... instead of the ~800Mbps you got on the main node. Is it just because you used your laptop which is further from the AP than when you first tested with your phone?
Not entirely sure on this but afaik the Ethernet is only for the back talk to the parent hub from each node rather than the primary internet connection sharing - which As I understand is still don’t over wifi. I would think moving the units closer would give faster speeds
I have the same system and also tested wireless backhaul performance before hard wiring to switch in attic. I did not get full gigabit speeds once switched to wired Ethernet backhaul until I went into the deco app and rebooted all the units at the same time using “reboot all”. Then it worked great!
Long story short, every hop you do halves your throughput. That means the more "MESH" you do, the less performance you get. It's the cost of "simplicity" in that case. Multiple wired APs will outperform this setup in every possible way. A dedicated bridge will outperform any mesh system as well. Although such a bridge would essentially do what they marketed as Mesh, you would probably buy better gear dedicated for each task and configure it properly. Again, for pretty much everyone in every market, the formula is: simplicity + cost > performance
@@Fostravel The mesh hops you are talking about have no effect when they are wired via an ethernet backhaul. I have a mesh setup from ASUS with the main router, with two nodes, one mesh node is not wired and the other is. When I am close to the hard wired node I get the same speeds I get when close to the main router.
In my experience they're pretty unusable when connected wirelessly as I was experiencing a lot of packet loss from pretty short distances, but I planned to run an ethernet cable to each deco anyway so wasn't a big deal and with ethernet they work pretty well and cover our entire house without needing to switch access points which is nice.
@@sopwerdna no. In my experience, the devices you plug to them switch more reliably and much faster from one AP to the other. Even after using same SSID and password. Also, what is good is to have the option to do wireless or ethernet backhaul, some deco models even let you do powerline backhaul.
@@karanssh I believe the specific term Linus Media Group uses for this type of video is "Product Showcase". Which is essentially an ad, but I do think it is worth the distinction because unlike the ad reads at the beginning and end of the videos, Linus and crew will generally point out any glaring flaws/issues they have with the product even if they are being paid to promote it.
Just installed the TP-link Deco M9+ mesh in my 3 story house, and it works like a charm. Really impressed, and the added functionality is great - would recommend for anyone with WiFi range issues.
These are actually really great cheap mesh devices. I put a set of x20's in my parents house (knowing it'd have wired backhaul) and they handle 250mbps on wifi5, TV's on 4k, etc effortlessly! I went out and bought a set of X68's for my own place (because they have dedicated 5Ghz wireless backhaul) and they handle wireless PCVR (with the quest 2) flawlessly across the satellite and have even faster throughput (though being australia my net caps out at 100mbps but it easily holds that, i actually use it to transfer it from the wall connection in the kitchen to the Study where all the PC's are since EoP maxed at about 40-50mbps and wired is not an option)
Been using TP-link Deco Mesh for a long time now. I highly recommend skipping the wifi 6 system and going for the older wifi5. Its half the price now and mesh wifi5 systems are way more than most need. Plus you can always expand Deco Mesh systems to include the newer wifi6 stations, down the road. With Deco's wifi5 mesh I am able to wirelessly stream VR games through my whole house without issue.
I have three old ADSL routers from the previous ISPs and have them wired to the fiber router as my house is already wired for internet. The fiber router is handling all DHCP. All of them have same SSID, channel and password. They work seamlessly in my two floor brick, stone and concrete house.
I recently recommended one of these kits for my mom. I specifically picked it because I I didn't want to have to be tech support for her router. It was really easy to set up and so far she has told me it is great.
Agreed. I'm running 3 Omada APs at my house and various unmanaged switches. Also have an Omada router. The router has been a little meh but has gotten better with updates. Coverage around my house is pretty solid.
Set these up at my parents house. Allows my mom to go out on the patio with her laptop and tablet with no issues. The app is easy to use and has some nice features. Always funny when I get the notification that a new device connects to the network.
These are expensive. like 350 CAD and they only cover supposedly 5800 sq ft. So get the 199 discount if you are even thinking about it. I have the M4s (same TP-Link Deco) and they supposedly cover 5500 sq ft at less than half the cost; so I would recommend the M4s or some comparable product in your price range once the discount is over. Either way, this product, though this is something of a showcase, ARE amazing for what they do. The set up is easy and you can add extra access points without any hassle. Prior to getting the deco i had just installed a bunch of tp-link wifi repeaters and they just don't cut it. These are two/three band so my security cameras connect right up and now I can set up cameras really far away from my home (like the back lot / garage area) One suggestion for future LMG videos is to revisit security cameras. I know linux already has one but maybe a better one has entered the market in that time?
I had to replace the wifi at my parents house, an older single story 2000 sq ft ranch style. I got the same model in this video. Configured it at my house and shipped it to my parents and it was seem less for them and covered the house back yard and garage very well.
I use these with Three wireless 5g in the UK. I was really disappointed with it at first with the speed vanishing as soon as you put a wall between you and the router. Since putting this in (1 sat & 2 base units ) I get super fast 350 to 450Mbps all around the house, I even get 150Mbps in my man cave 25 metres down the garden, the Ring doorbell never drops off. Seriously impressed.
I mean you could configure all your wifi access points/routers with the same SSID and password and your device would automatically connect to the strongest wifi without manually switching between WIFIs. It's called wifi roaming. Still more complicated though.
I mean, if you had two routers and one configured as an AP. You could just give them both the same SSID and allow the client device to intelligently connect to the strongest and most reliable signal. I used 2 cheap Asus routers with powerlines to backhaul a physical connection and was actually super effective
well you can. if you have spare router. but the receiving kinda bad . i use that way and use mesh later. really different in concrete home. mesh still do a good job receiving weak wifi and have good speed.
7:01 Nope the extending deco units do not have to be near the main deco unit. Should've put the 3rd unit in the Short Circuit set for best coverage/speed.
I just moved to a larger place with this problem, it's a split level ranch with 2900sqft and my old Asus wasn't cutting it. Planning to build out a unifi system with a dream machine and stuff, but I need to work today, so I picked up these because they were one of the cheapest mesh systems. $156.47 USD on Amazon. Working pretty well. Should hold me over till I figure out where I am sticking my dream machine pro and do all my cable drops and stuff.
Looks like the coupon takes off 20$ instead of 20% at least for Amazon US. EDIT: This is an error in the description, as Linus says it brings it down to 199, which would be $20.
Exactly. Was gonna buy from Denmark. But the code is $20 of which is less and also the price is listed as 269 normally and 219 now. That kinda sucks compared
For anyone interested in the deco systems for parental/device control reasons, they do not offer basic Mac filtering, meaning that if your kids/guests change their MAC address they can avoid any internet rules set by the admin.
That is literally what MAC filtering is though, so they DO offer MAC filtering, it’s just MAC filtering is a bad method of authorisation due to spoofing.
I don't have a big house by any stretch, but moving to a 2 station mesh setup has improved quality of life for internet use around the house and into the yard and garage. Plus it handles a lot more connections simultaneously. It has made the last 1.5 years a lot better.
I really hate that every mesh wifi solution has really strong vendor lock in. Standardisation and subsequent commoditisation could make this a lot cheaper.
I bought this solution last month for my 2100 sq ft home. My results were typical of linus results. I have gigabit internet through XFINITY, and my new home that was just built August 2021 with no ethernet ports in the home. I was forced to use a solution like this! I really like the fact that you can connect devices via ethernet to the non base unit. I have my Voskcoin mini doge miner connected via ethernet in my garage thanks to TP link deco device. Initially tried moca adapters, but those are clunky devices and provide no wifi coverage.
I have the upgraded version of these, the X60 and they've worked essentially flawlessly the past several months that I've had them. I also appreciate their built in antivirus and safety aspects that others even charge extra for. Also, one of the cheaper costs to get Wifi 6 mesh.
Never been convinced by mesh networks. But my problem has never been range. I live in a small house that has a 3ft sandstone wall in the middle of it. So powerline has always been the way to go.
Linus, can't you just name (said) two routers the same with same password so the devices will connect to strongest? It won't solve wireless forwarding but this router problem you said was weird. Or in this situation also devices hold first access point.
The thing is that when you move, most devices don't switch from one router to another until you either lose connection or the connection is really really low
@@Steve-ph7qn In my case, moving from having a modemrouter plus a repeater to a mesh system (three decos) improved my network connection stability greatly (and was not running old devices)
About 15 years ago, I had a problem accessing a second floor WifI router on the first floor. I ran a 50 foot cat 5 cable along the walls and down flight of stairs where I plugged it into a second router. It wasn't an elegant solution, but it worked. I live in a 1 bedroom apartment these days and have my router in the hall between my living room and bedroom. I hadn't had any problems with the setup until a little over a month ago. For the last 33 days I've had Backblaze doing an initial backup of the nearly 10 TB's of files on my main PC. I'm finding I need to reboot my modem and router every day or so because my internet starts "stuttering" (going in and out). The really annoying thing about that is that after I reboot my router I have to unplug all my google home devices and turn off all my smart lights by hand. Then I can plug the home devices in and after they finish starting up go around and turn all the lights on again. That's practically the definition of a first world problem, but it's annoying nonetheless. The backup has only 243 GBs left and I will be very happy when it's done. Backblaze is estimating 2 more days to finish. I am hoping it finishes in one.
I just set the SSID and password the same on my 3 separate access points and it works great, my devices always use the strongest signal as I move around.
The point of mesh wifi is for people who don't know that they can do that, or don't know how. If enterprise wifi shows anything it's that there's nothing special needed to make a 'mesh wifi' other than having extra AP's, it's just that for the money, buying a stand alone AP isn't really saving any money over buying a router/AP combo and turning off the routing functions.
my internet provider actually provided this product for my house. it works well to provide coverage to sections of my home that are dead zones but the app itself actually needs improvement. setting up is pretty easy as well.
I use 5 decos around my concrete two floor house and the performance is amazing. I love them so much and managing is so easy with their app! I even installed Pi-hole and works all around the house! We have 7 TVs, many laptops and phones connected at the same time and it works so good :) great job tp link!
If you are using 2nd router, you can name it and it's password same as the original one. That way you will see one 1 wifi name but depending upon which has better strength, you device may switch automatically
It won't switch automatically like Linus says your device will likley cling on to the first ap it saw and cling on until it can't see it anymore. Meshing is good because it proactively hands your device over to the nearest or strongest signal ap or sometimes to a less congested one so they all talk to each other to manage the load on the network .... put simply. Just two "dumb" wireless routers with the same ssd and wep keys are not that smart
As someone that's been using the M4 Deco setup, its pretty good, We've got 3 in the main house with a 4th in the back garage, and while the one in the back garage does not get the same speed as the rest of the house, 50 mbit is solid for out there.
Unless your device is really old, they do automatically switch between access points based on signal strength. My university has a million APs and I can walk from one end of campus to the other without dropping connection.
Yep! Roaming isn't really an issue anymore. I have 4 APs at my house and can walk around having a phone call without problems (I use voice over wifi). I guess that's just one less benefit of these mesh systems
I agree but one thing to note is that your campus doesn’t use independent or “fat” APs. All of the APs on your campus go back to a controller most likely. This controller further improves roaming as it provides protocols that facilitate faster roaming and even steer clients onto more suitable APs.
I'm using the X68s for the dedicated backbone. I went from only being able to get 100Mbps of my gigabit downstream in my office, which is the farthest point from my main router, to 800Mbps, after switching to just two X68s.
@Vanessa Meghan Haha. It actually wasn't meant as a comment on the performance/utility but the shape. I found it funny that it's the same general shape as TP and the company is called TP-Link 😅
Fairly sure you don't turn up gain, you turn up power (and typically they run at the maximum legal limit for your country anyway). Antenna gain is a static thing based on the antenna design.
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There is another advantage to Mesh WiFi: Expert management. I had a problem with hackers for several years; knocking my router offline and/or crapping up performance (which required me to reboot it). I tried several different routers, including flashing one with dd-wrt. I even tried an ISP-managed router (which was both better and worse at the same time). A Mesh router entirely FIXED THE PROBLEM. The advantage is that Mesh routers are managed by some AI/human combination in the cloud -- experts who spend more time keeping up with router firmware than I do.
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I have one X20 hooked up via Ethernet to my T Mobile internet gateway. I put it in wireless router mode, so it can handle all the traffic on my network. It works great. It nearly doubled both my upload and download speeds and handles all my devices connected perfectly.
I bought DECO X60 units for both my parents and sister's houses and they work perfect. One 3 floor concrete house and one is an apartment with the elevator shaft in the middle
I have this X20 Deco mesh, it’s a fantastic bit of kit for like £220. Put your isp router in modem mode, connect the deco via Ethernet cable, download the app and it’s an easy set up. I have my oc upstairs, and I have a deco in my office, and I use a Ethernet cable straight into that deco, getting around 300 mbs. It’s an amazing bit of tech for the price, and you can add more decos if you need them.
I don’t think they need to be in range the main deco, just another deco. I’ve installed this in 3 floor homes where the main unit is in a basement and I had over 100mbps on the top floor. You can even see to which deco they connect to, the reason yours configured themselves to the main unit is because you actually set them up next to it, so the strongest signal is the main one.
I’m 99% positive I have this exact system at home. Replaced my Google WiFi with this. Paired with 400mbps Spectrum, I really can’t complain. The pod in my upstairs apartment actually reaches out into the street and I still have connection when I get in my car. Not great, but it’s there! Awesome system! I have 3 pods covering 2 levels. Cannot complain. It makes my Spectrum internet seem better…
Been using tp-link deco s4 units for the last year, in a highly congested area, and am legitimately super impressed by the kit. They've been flawless thus far. I expanded my original 3 piece kit with another few units too and absolutely no discernable performance impact for normal use unlike my old wifi extender set up.
I have a 1000sqft house, but my wife's crafting business uses tens of thousands of 1 foot long steel wires with a random orientations(basically chaff). It really confuses wifi hardware. These were the devices I had in my amazon cart to solve the issue. The one thing I was wary of that was not visible in any official documentation was the number and placement of the ethernet ports. Now that I see that there are two per unit, I am going to buy them.
Option also with the network sockets on each, you can plug items INTO it (on both sockets for each unit) to fool them into thinking they are connected to a wired network, have a work network phone that doesn't have wifi, plugged its network cable into the deco unit, it thinks it's wired and worked first time, but the data is going through the wifi.
Been running this setup for a while now,. I would say that the main unit tends to run HOT so I suggest placing it in an area with good airflow or adding a fan for the deco.
I have the previous generation of these, I have set the guest WiFi to IoT. All the smart bulbs and doohickies are on a separate WiFi network to my personal stuff.
I love my X20's. I don't have a big house but I do have Ring cameras out in the yard and on my doorbell and having a super extendo wifi bubble really helps keeping those things online and streaming good quality video.
For a house you can just use a good CPL with Wifi build-in and duplicate the main wifi network, to create a sort of mesh while keeping the main router (and all it's "advanced" features). A CPL will not be as fast as a direct ethernet, but with a good electrical installation in the house you can easily get 200-300Mbps through the duplicated Wifi, and way more stable compared to a Wifi repeater
CPL (Courant Porteur en Ligne or Power Line Communication) is a technology that allows data to be transmitted over a building's existing electrical wiring.
I got the Netgear orbi for my parents place and it does very well(I don't have gigabit to fully test unfortunately), but I do wish that the satellites also had an Ethernet connection to the main unit. It is limiting where you can put the satellites.
“90mbps is not great but enough for a video call” Linus my dude, most of us are trying to deal with sub 30mbps as a maximum in the house, 90 is living the dream.
300 mbps is a bad day
Uhhh...30mbps is super slow. I don't think "most" people with wifi have wifi that slow...but I am willing to see your evidence. Haha.
@@martymcfee4200 come to Australia, 25 Mbps is the most common base internet package with expected speeds lower then that.
Who cares about supper fast Wi-Fi if your internet out the door is so crap.
I'm one of the lucky few who has "Gigabit", I typically get between 500-800 Mbps, but I pay a lot for that.
@@35manning and there's only 25 million of yall. It would make sense that high speed internet isn't a priority in such an empty country. Haha.
@@martymcfee4200 but this was the UPGRADE to "bring us inline with the rest of the western world".
Yes, a HUGE part of the country is somewhat empty, but most of the population is bunched up along the survivable east and south east coastline.
The best end user internet with fibre to the premise, is in Darwin with around 4000km of internal routing before it departs the country for the rest of the world.
No jokes, my internet runs directly south to Adelaide, about 3000km away before turning east for another 1000 or so km to get to the submarine data lines.
Our internet (very recently improved) was so messed up that Darwin to Darwin routing went via Adelaide (6000km return trip).
There’s a whole generation that doesn’t think of “wireless access point” when someone says WAP. Damn.
I just labeled 6 of them today and consciously decided to put "AP-01" through 6 instead... Since it's going in a college residence. Don't need the un-tech-initiated snickering for no reason while we install.
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I sprinkled 6 entry level Deco E4 around my farm, 2 hidden in waterproof boxes, only 2 of them hard wired and I enjoy mesh networking all around the yard and in all buildings. Great product!
Oh, my wife would love that kind of setup for our farm. Good call. I was just thinking about how to place them in some kind of waterproof container. I need to put one in the barn so my wife can watch for new baby goats being born with a camera system instead of her making a barn run to check on them every 2 hours. haha
I have 3 in my home, they have been really good.
@@CNC-Time-Lapse my only complaint is that waterproof boxes are a messy alternative for POE outdoor relays, none are compatible with Deco, unfortunately.
I have 6 M5's hard wired in my house, the only thing missing is POe on these (have to use an external dongle)... very robust
@@CNC-Time-Lapse two farmers commenting on LTT video's talking tech... my prejudice just got served back at me #awesome haha
Just so you guys know. In the video Linus said that’s he thought the second satellite deco had to be in-range/ connected to the main deco. While you can have it connect to the main node, it can connect to the satellite as well (wirelessly or via LAN cable) in case you have a more linear set-up vs a more 2-d one. Linus’ setup is known as a star set-up while the other is called daisy chain.
I suspect you mean a *daisy chain*
@@Thermalions I came here to post this... you beat me. Please accept this internet point and my congratulations 🙂
Thanks for the info Stroh 🙂
Was wondering why it couldn't daisy chain.. but since they didn't do it that way, we don't know how much worse wifi gets when daisy chained 😐
And is this intended to replace a primary router or is this more just extenders by another name? Like can use together with a UDM or something like that?
@@Artificial.Unintelligence Can do both, depending on the main internet device, eg the part where some provider's products are quite annoying to turn off the router aspect of it. Or you could use it as an access point eg you didn't have any/much reception and now you do.
I know this is a SPONSORED video, but I’d love to see a video on ASUS’s AI mesh system that just uses whatever ASUS router you already have. Or a full mesh roundup (that includes the ASUS).
I think it has already been done, don’t remember what video though, they’ve made videos on literally almost everything. It’s an LMG video
@@stbone6274 it's been quite some time tough, I vaguely remember something, but it HAD to have been prior to WiFi 6, and the landscape and ecosystems have to have changed since then regardless.
I had the Asus ai mesh using 2.routers and it was a horrible experience. Instead I now use the Asus Zenwifi AX6600 mesh and I freaking love it! Highly recommend.
@@kellersales Well at the moment I have an AX11000, part of the house gets no 5Ghz, which is fine because most of the time 2.4Ghz is fine there, but it can be a touch spotty in like 2 small pockets, but adding a router for mesh is kind of expensive for fixing what is a kind of small problem, so debating if I do it or wait until I upgrade the AX11000 anyway to set up mesh with that.
work places had wifi repeaters since like mid 2000s i dont see what the big deal is ,even with wireless HHT's itll auto connect to the clearet signal
I have this same unit and all plugged in with an ethernet port, amazing connectivity through my whole home. I strongly recommend for the price.
I got the x60s. They're great for connectivity, but I'm unable to hardwire them ATM. Throughout REALLY drops off if you use wireless only. I can't wait to hardwire them after I move.
@@dpjazzy15 had been using powerline to connect some out of the way stuff, so when I got these Deco mesh in, it was a perfect fit for the backhaul connectivity. The only thing left is to add a switch if you need multiple ethernet lines coming out from each node.
I got the budget version of the decos think the E4 models with advertised speeds of 1gigbit WiFi which is great but then they stick a 100mbps port on it so you can’t utilise the 1gigbit and I noticed you have to go through the detailed description to find that out so the second wasn’t so great for me go ubiquiti now so it’s quite a lot better
@@nizamrahman4665 yea....I have an 8 port gigabit switch, but I'm currently renting and I don't wanna run wires along trim or drill holes. It's definitely part of my plan to back haul wire all the units. I'm gonna wait until I buy a place, first. I plan on running multiple Ethernet lines to each room.
Same, the whole house has good internet and range
How did you miss the opportunity to call your network “Li-Fi” instead of Linus Wifi
Good one!
The thing is .. Li-Fi already exist, this is the Lighting Fidelity TECHNOLOGY, using light to transmit data and position between devices.
Make your own research to understand what I'm talking about, if the Team of LMG don't call it Li-Fi it's probably because that doesn't make sens when this a complete other technology to use Ethernet Wirelessly.
@@jthefoam997 that's the point?
@@Bry.89 _Lin't-Fi_
@CGGS_Gaming by doing it in a video, it may violate trademark laws also, I'm not sure about this, but I wouldn't be surprised. Doing this at your private home/business and not posting it on YT or social media probably wouldn't get you in trouble.
I've been setting up some of the lower tier deco systems for friends who are less tech savvy. The deco M5 dual AP kit is great for most homes - always hardwired together.
It's funny how smartphones can efficiently hop between cellular network base stations all the time, but at the same time they're dumb enough to not do the same with wireless lan.
its just a hold over from old design with WIFI.
Cellular was designed to hop all the time or connect to multiple towers at a time. However wifi originally wasnt intended for that, and our current use of wifi wasnt thought about.
Newer wifi systems can do seemless handoff, however they're more intended for the business market, like Ubiquiti is for example. Most constumers dont use that kinda functionality
but they do, if all wifi APs have the same bssid (network name) and credentials they will. Wifi roaming has been a thing for ages. You are listening to LIENUS that is shilling for yet another sponsor
because of bigass cellular network towers!
Let the cellular network drop to single bar, then your phone will start showing it's stupidity
@@marcogenovesi8570 In my experience, WiFi devices are still reluctant to hop between access points (at least on older versions of WiFi). You have to use all sorts of weird hacks to make them do so. And even then, they're not great at choosing the nearest access point.
@@marcogenovesi8570 anyone who's ever used a wifi booster can attest that this is not the case
I’ve been running 3x Deco M9s through our house and they’ve been amazing with no issues, great performance and very simple setup. One thing you missed Linus is that unlike other APs and Wi-Fi extenders or boosters, these mesh networks play nicely with other Wi-Fi systems like Sonos.
Sonos and other similar Wi-Fi networked systems don’t work at all, or intermittently on boosters or normal APs, but the Deco mesh network has been flawless. Small but important difference and the main reason I went for the Deco range
“90mbps is not great but enough for a video call” Linus my dude, most of us are trying to deal with sub 30mbps as a maximum in the house, 90 is living the dream.
The description says the code will give 20% off but it gives $20 off (which puts it at $199 before tax, which is what the video says)
because the keys are right next to each other, i'm sure it was a simple typo, it happens
@@alexhallert4582 Keys are next to each other, but you put $ before the number and % after it, so it wasn't a typo.
@@inspirer4763 aight
8:35 - listen to what Linus says - the discount says it should reduce the price from $249 to $199 which is 20%, it just seems by the time the video has been released there has been a natural reduction in price to about $209, so the discount only saves you $10
I can attest for this product. Recently got a 2-pack and the speeds are exactly the same as the primary node. Just make sure to put the second node in a place where it gets good signal from the main unit!
TP-Link broke my non-ax wifi for over half a year before they finally released a patch to fix it and this is on one of their flagship 802.11ax routers. I wouldn't trust them anymore.
110% agree, had a TP link router, biggest piece of rubbish ever.
Some more details since this comment blew up a bit. It is the TP-Link AX6000, nothing could connect to it out of dozens of devices; laptops, windows and android tables, other phones, my roku *except* my work iphone until they released this newest(as of this post) 1.24 firmware, they even RMA'd it after a month of back and forth emails with support factory resetting and changing a setting or two every email just to have the RMA unit have the same exact issue! So I gave up which I am sure is what they wanted me to do but ya only got room for so much in life.
@@combat.wombat My AX6000 constantly reboots, multiple times per day, I'm about at my wits end with it.
I used deco M5 for 3 year and I just added 2 x60 for 8 month. No problem and headache at all.
Current TP-Link user, I hate their app, how you need it because you can't access a few things on the router itself, and how basic features get pay-walled for some.
Unless you don't care about manually and properly setting up and controlling your router never buy from them. They own your router and your data while at it.
We use decos in our home not because we have large area to cover but because we have insanely thick walls so we pretty much only had wifi in the same room as the router works like a charm
I’ve been using two of these Decos for about a year, connected by Ethernet. Small apartment, but extremely thick concrete walls always screwed up Wi-Fi. (Bought a wifi6 Asus router first but they didn’t deliver the mesh functionality they had promised on launch 🙄). Very good experience. Rock-solid performance and high speeds. The only problem has been UPNP which Xbox seems to struggle with on this router. The app for monitoring the network, even remotely, has come in handy too.
I love the deco units for my home wifi with one exception they are missing so many advanced features and ones you would expect on a standard router which is very disappointing.
Yeah I really wish that the would let you choose which channel you broadcast to.
well tp link target to more user friendly setup. i use multiple of mesh. the setting is simple and quick. target buyers more into normal home rather than industry with it guy. little frustrated but the product itself is already good
@@kdoyle316 The newer models do I believe. And customize settings for each major device attached.
"90 mbit/s is better than nothing"
* crying in German 20mbit DSL *
You shouldn't cry, you still have better internet than most americans
*laughs in cheap 400mbit suburban American internet*
Laughs in 10$ a month 500mbit internet in Russia
lol, 20 mbit is FAR below the norm in Germany. I have had 100mbit for about 10 years now myself and if I had the money, I could easily get a 1000mbit connection in a relatively small town. where do you live? in a barn in the middle of nowhere? X_x
@@zaubermaus8190 there's still a ton of places in germany where you have to use something like 20mbit DSL. Yes, most have at least 60-100mbit now but you can live on a street where your neighbour has gigabit and you don't because they didn't manage to complete the infrastructure yet
I've had a TP Deco mesh setup at my inlaws for 2 years. I set it, and forgot about it. It's been working pretty flawlessly.
The best thing about the relative recent mesh systems (Deco X20 included) is that they have dual antennae. One for transmitting and one for receiving. This way, if you were to daisy chain them wirelessly, you don't actually get too much of a performance degradation towards the end of the chain. I found with a modest house size, 3 Deco X20s has been great, and my room which is upstairs and a few rooms away from my primary router, can hit my ISP's rated bandwidth of 500Mbps. This is a huge improvement over the 80-100Mbps I used to get with my old router.
Hope this was recorded a long time ago and you're enjoying Canadian Thanksgiving today!
What?
@@GFG2gifted exactly what the guy said.
@@GFG2gifted today is Thanksgiving in Canada. Only knew about it thanks to a canadian friend
I'm curious why you only got 350Mbps when the mesh AP was connected by ethernet... instead of the ~800Mbps you got on the main node.
Is it just because you used your laptop which is further from the AP than when you first tested with your phone?
Not entirely sure on this but afaik the Ethernet is only for the back talk to the parent hub from each node rather than the primary internet connection sharing - which As I understand is still don’t over wifi. I would think moving the units closer would give faster speeds
I was wondering the same
I have the same system and also tested wireless backhaul performance before hard wiring to switch in attic.
I did not get full gigabit speeds once switched to wired Ethernet backhaul until I went into the deco app and rebooted all the units at the same time using “reboot all”. Then it worked great!
Long story short, every hop you do halves your throughput. That means the more "MESH" you do, the less performance you get. It's the cost of "simplicity" in that case.
Multiple wired APs will outperform this setup in every possible way. A dedicated bridge will outperform any mesh system as well. Although such a bridge would essentially do what they marketed as Mesh, you would probably buy better gear dedicated for each task and configure it properly.
Again, for pretty much everyone in every market, the formula is:
simplicity + cost > performance
@@Fostravel The mesh hops you are talking about have no effect when they are wired via an ethernet backhaul. I have a mesh setup from ASUS with the main router, with two nodes, one mesh node is not wired and the other is. When I am close to the hard wired node I get the same speeds I get when close to the main router.
Fun fact. TP-link just teleports you to the fastest WAP within the area. I mean it might screw you up but fun fact
…. WAP, WAP, WAP…
I always wish my router points me to the nearest and best WAP that is available
@@stevenswanson4715 WAP radar
does it give me a bucket and a mop too?
@@marcogenovesi8570 sold seperately
I've had 3 of the x20s in my house for about a year now. They're great! Solved my issues with wifi smart bulbs constantly disconnecting.
Your old modem maxxed out on connections. The deco has 154
In my experience they're pretty unusable when connected wirelessly as I was experiencing a lot of packet loss from pretty short distances, but I planned to run an ethernet cable to each deco anyway so wasn't a big deal and with ethernet they work pretty well and cover our entire house without needing to switch access points which is nice.
dude what's the point of a wifi mesh if you run cable to all of them? That's a normal wifi setup with multiple access points
@@marcogenovesi8570 these are suppose to roam better. Like a system with a server/hub which manages devices
So, they are exactly the same as literally any other access point but like twice the price?
@@sopwerdna no. In my experience, the devices you plug to them switch more reliably and much faster from one AP to the other. Even after using same SSID and password. Also, what is good is to have the option to do wireless or ethernet backhaul, some deco models even let you do powerline backhaul.
@@sopwerdna no he just fails at using them, which says something
I’ve been using TP-Link’s deco lineup for a while, no problem, awesome user experience, like this kind of product review ggwp
it’s not a review, it’s an ad
It's not a review, it's an ad
@@karanssh I believe the specific term Linus Media Group uses for this type of video is "Product Showcase". Which is essentially an ad, but I do think it is worth the distinction because unlike the ad reads at the beginning and end of the videos, Linus and crew will generally point out any glaring flaws/issues they have with the product even if they are being paid to promote it.
Just installed the TP-link Deco M9+ mesh in my 3 story house, and it works like a charm.
Really impressed, and the added functionality is great - would recommend for anyone with WiFi range issues.
These are actually really great cheap mesh devices. I put a set of x20's in my parents house (knowing it'd have wired backhaul) and they handle 250mbps on wifi5, TV's on 4k, etc effortlessly! I went out and bought a set of X68's for my own place (because they have dedicated 5Ghz wireless backhaul) and they handle wireless PCVR (with the quest 2) flawlessly across the satellite and have even faster throughput (though being australia my net caps out at 100mbps but it easily holds that, i actually use it to transfer it from the wall connection in the kitchen to the Study where all the PC's are since EoP maxed at about 40-50mbps and wired is not an option)
Been using TP-link Deco Mesh for a long time now. I highly recommend skipping the wifi 6 system and going for the older wifi5. Its half the price now and mesh wifi5 systems are way more than most need. Plus you can always expand Deco Mesh systems to include the newer wifi6 stations, down the road. With Deco's wifi5 mesh I am able to wirelessly stream VR games through my whole house without issue.
The 3rd deco doesn't need to be in range of the main unit (unlike what Linus thinks). But it does need to be in range with 2nd or some other unit
*LIENUS
I have three old ADSL routers from the previous ISPs and have them wired to the fiber router as my house is already wired for internet. The fiber router is handling all DHCP. All of them have same SSID, channel and password. They work seamlessly in my two floor brick, stone and concrete house.
I recently recommended one of these kits for my mom. I specifically picked it because I I didn't want to have to be tech support for her router. It was really easy to set up and so far she has told me it is great.
I've the decco M5 I love how tiny they are and gives great coverage around the house
I love TP-LINK products because they are really cheap and not that bad quality.
Just pretty good value!
@Funny hi bot
@Funny then get reported
Agreed. I'm running 3 Omada APs at my house and various unmanaged switches. Also have an Omada router. The router has been a little meh but has gotten better with updates. Coverage around my house is pretty solid.
really depends on the model, had the ac1200. It kept randomly restarting itself and tp-link offered no working solutions.
Using a Deco S4. Works great
Other house has an Omada AP though, and its a bit weird using two separate phone apps for different TP-LINK products
Set these up at my parents house. Allows my mom to go out on the patio with her laptop and tablet with no issues. The app is easy to use and has some nice features. Always funny when I get the notification that a new device connects to the network.
I've had these since release, and i love them. They work great, never gave me a problem. I highly recommend!!
These are expensive. like 350 CAD and they only cover supposedly 5800 sq ft. So get the 199 discount if you are even thinking about it.
I have the M4s (same TP-Link Deco) and they supposedly cover 5500 sq ft at less than half the cost; so I would recommend the M4s or some comparable product in your price range once the discount is over.
Either way, this product, though this is something of a showcase, ARE amazing for what they do. The set up is easy and you can add extra access points without any hassle. Prior to getting the deco i had just installed a bunch of tp-link wifi repeaters and they just don't cut it. These are two/three band so my security cameras connect right up and now I can set up cameras really far away from my home (like the back lot / garage area)
One suggestion for future LMG videos is to revisit security cameras. I know linux already has one but maybe a better one has entered the market in that time?
I've set up many Deco systems for customers and they all work flawlessly. You can get ones with powerline backhaul too. Great products.
I’ve had one of these for 6ish months and they’re awesome.
No router was able to give me coverage upstairs like this can
I have them, love them for simplicity and coverage at my home. I use them wirelessly no hardwired only main unit.
I had to replace the wifi at my parents house, an older single story 2000 sq ft ranch style. I got the same model in this video. Configured it at my house and shipped it to my parents and it was seem less for them and covered the house back yard and garage very well.
I actually use these in my house because I have lead paint in the walls, and it's phenomenal for dealing with the interference caused by that.
That would be attenuation, not interference. Your lead wall isn’t producing any RF.
@@Steve-ph7qn A fair point, but not one that most understand so I used the wrong term on purpose 🤣👍
I use these with Three wireless 5g in the UK. I was really disappointed with it at first with the speed vanishing as soon as you put a wall between you and the router. Since putting this in (1 sat & 2 base units ) I get super fast 350 to 450Mbps all around the house, I even get 150Mbps in my man cave 25 metres down the garden, the Ring doorbell never drops off. Seriously impressed.
I mean you could configure all your wifi access points/routers with the same SSID and password and your device would automatically connect to the strongest wifi without manually switching between WIFIs. It's called wifi roaming. Still more complicated though.
Yeah not sure why TP link and Linus act like this isn’t the obvious option
Not working while you playing game or video call. It will buffering when you change connection
My dad watched this video when he was deciding on a mesh system and it helped him understand mesh Wi-Fi a lot
TP-Link has always made pretty solid stuff.
Jep!
Not for me
(X) Doubt
I mean, if you had two routers and one configured as an AP. You could just give them both the same SSID and allow the client device to intelligently connect to the strongest and most reliable signal. I used 2 cheap Asus routers with powerlines to backhaul a physical connection and was actually super effective
well you can. if you have spare router. but the receiving kinda bad . i use that way and use mesh later. really different in concrete home. mesh still do a good job receiving weak wifi and have good speed.
100% true, Linus and TP Link act like you can’t just set the same SSID on multiple access points.
The Telco company I work for gives these exact units out for free to broadband connections over 24 months!
7:01 Nope the extending deco units do not have to be near the main deco unit. Should've put the 3rd unit in the Short Circuit set for best coverage/speed.
I admire the deco series for it's ease of use and setting up. Although I don't have the wifi 6 version, the M9 seems so far so good!
I just moved to a larger place with this problem, it's a split level ranch with 2900sqft and my old Asus wasn't cutting it. Planning to build out a unifi system with a dream machine and stuff, but I need to work today, so I picked up these because they were one of the cheapest mesh systems. $156.47 USD on Amazon. Working pretty well. Should hold me over till I figure out where I am sticking my dream machine pro and do all my cable drops and stuff.
Looks like the coupon takes off 20$ instead of 20% at least for Amazon US. EDIT: This is an error in the description, as Linus says it brings it down to 199, which would be $20.
Exactly. Was gonna buy from Denmark. But the code is $20 of which is less and also the price is listed as 269 normally and 219 now. That kinda sucks compared
He didn't say 20% off... he said that you can drop to $200 for 5 days... so there is probably already a sale and his code gives a further discount...
@@TheDeathmail hmm yeah rewatching the video he doesn't say 20%. The description definitely says 20% though.
For anyone interested in the deco systems for parental/device control reasons, they do not offer basic Mac filtering, meaning that if your kids/guests change their MAC address they can avoid any internet rules set by the admin.
That is literally what MAC filtering is though, so they DO offer MAC filtering, it’s just MAC filtering is a bad method of authorisation due to spoofing.
My router just died yesterday so this couldn't be more perfect timing.
How the fuck did I read router as mother
I don't have a big house by any stretch, but moving to a 2 station mesh setup has improved quality of life for internet use around the house and into the yard and garage. Plus it handles a lot more connections simultaneously.
It has made the last 1.5 years a lot better.
I really hate that every mesh wifi solution has really strong vendor lock in.
Standardisation and subsequent commoditisation could make this a lot cheaper.
6:50 when your just having a conversation but alexa gets bored and assumes your talking to her
Ah yes Thumbnail linus with giant hand. My favorite
I bought this solution last month for my 2100 sq ft home. My results were typical of linus results. I have gigabit internet through XFINITY, and my new home that was just built August 2021 with no ethernet ports in the home. I was forced to use a solution like this! I really like the fact that you can connect devices via ethernet to the non base unit. I have my Voskcoin mini doge miner connected via ethernet in my garage thanks to TP link deco device. Initially tried moca adapters, but those are clunky devices and provide no wifi coverage.
I have the upgraded version of these, the X60 and they've worked essentially flawlessly the past several months that I've had them. I also appreciate their built in antivirus and safety aspects that others even charge extra for. Also, one of the cheaper costs to get Wifi 6 mesh.
Been using deco e4 for a couple of years and haven’t looked back. Solved all of our internet issues overnight.
And here I am with a fully fledged Unify set-up in a two-bedroom appartment that a single access point can cover from any of the farthest points >.>
Never been convinced by mesh networks. But my problem has never been range. I live in a small house that has a 3ft sandstone wall in the middle of it. So powerline has always been the way to go.
Good news, there is fiber optic in my neighborhood…
Bad news is AT&T is a bitch about it…
Avoiding the hops and connecting through an Ethernet cable and a gigabit switch works like a charm. I got the x60 and I love them
Linus, can't you just name (said) two routers the same with same password so the devices will connect to strongest? It won't solve wireless forwarding but this router problem you said was weird. Or in this situation also devices hold first access point.
The thing is that when you move, most devices don't switch from one router to another until you either lose connection or the connection is really really low
@@ggandalff that was the case 15 years ago but most Wi-Fi drivers/firmware is designed around roaming at this point.
@@Steve-ph7qn In my case, moving from having a modemrouter plus a repeater to a mesh system (three decos) improved my network connection stability greatly (and was not running old devices)
About 15 years ago, I had a problem accessing a second floor WifI router on the first floor. I ran a 50 foot cat 5 cable along the walls and down flight of stairs where I plugged it into a second router. It wasn't an elegant solution, but it worked. I live in a 1 bedroom apartment these days and have my router in the hall between my living room and bedroom. I hadn't had any problems with the setup until a little over a month ago. For the last 33 days I've had Backblaze doing an initial backup of the nearly 10 TB's of files on my main PC. I'm finding I need to reboot my modem and router every day or so because my internet starts "stuttering" (going in and out). The really annoying thing about that is that after I reboot my router I have to unplug all my google home devices and turn off all my smart lights by hand. Then I can plug the home devices in and after they finish starting up go around and turn all the lights on again. That's practically the definition of a first world problem, but it's annoying nonetheless. The backup has only 243 GBs left and I will be very happy when it's done. Backblaze is estimating 2 more days to finish. I am hoping it finishes in one.
I just set the SSID and password the same on my 3 separate access points and it works great, my devices always use the strongest signal as I move around.
The point of mesh wifi is for people who don't know that they can do that, or don't know how. If enterprise wifi shows anything it's that there's nothing special needed to make a 'mesh wifi' other than having extra AP's, it's just that for the money, buying a stand alone AP isn't really saving any money over buying a router/AP combo and turning off the routing functions.
@@KyleDavis328 mesh Wi-Fi is to extend Wi-Fi to an area without a wired uplink. Roaming and mesh are completely different things.
my internet provider actually provided this product for my house.
it works well to provide coverage to sections of my home that are dead zones but the app itself actually needs improvement.
setting up is pretty easy as well.
Linus needs to hit his kids up for some math lessons, 128 isn’t double 90 and 348 isn’t double 128 🤦🏼♂️
He's using a proprietary form of Binary
Probably edited out some other test
I use 5 decos around my concrete two floor house and the performance is amazing. I love them so much and managing is so easy with their app! I even installed Pi-hole and works all around the house! We have 7 TVs, many laptops and phones connected at the same time and it works so good :) great job tp link!
I can't believe he called 90Mb/s "enough"
I get 2MB/s on a good day
That's worse than not having any at all
@@lilkittygirl
Trust me, it’s not
It’s bad but it’s not that bad
@@PashaGamingYT Oh you poor soul.
Trust me, it IS that bad... One day you'll see that
there is a difference between megabytes and megabits
Really liking the side camera angle. Feel it makes it more professional
If you are using 2nd router, you can name it and it's password same as the original one. That way you will see one 1 wifi name but depending upon which has better strength, you device may switch automatically
It won't switch automatically like Linus says your device will likley cling on to the first ap it saw and cling on until it can't see it anymore. Meshing is good because it proactively hands your device over to the nearest or strongest signal ap or sometimes to a less congested one so they all talk to each other to manage the load on the network .... put simply. Just two "dumb" wireless routers with the same ssd and wep keys are not that smart
As someone that's been using the M4 Deco setup, its pretty good, We've got 3 in the main house with a 4th in the back garage, and while the one in the back garage does not get the same speed as the rest of the house, 50 mbit is solid for out there.
Unless your device is really old, they do automatically switch between access points based on signal strength. My university has a million APs and I can walk from one end of campus to the other without dropping connection.
Yep! Roaming isn't really an issue anymore. I have 4 APs at my house and can walk around having a phone call without problems (I use voice over wifi). I guess that's just one less benefit of these mesh systems
yes, wifi roaming has been a thing for at least a decade now. LIENUS hits again
I agree but one thing to note is that your campus doesn’t use independent or “fat” APs. All of the APs on your campus go back to a controller most likely. This controller further improves roaming as it provides protocols that facilitate faster roaming and even steer clients onto more suitable APs.
I'm using the X68s for the dedicated backbone. I went from only being able to get 100Mbps of my gigabit downstream in my office, which is the farthest point from my main router, to 800Mbps, after switching to just two X68s.
This. The 68s are where it's at.
With that shape, I'm fairly sure TP stands for Toilet Paper.
given the average quality and lifespan of TP-link devices, that's accurate on many levels
Well their business grade routers' security is a damn joke. That is for certain.LOL. So...it's about as useful as TP
@Vanessa Meghan Haha. It actually wasn't meant as a comment on the performance/utility but the shape. I found it funny that it's the same general shape as TP and the company is called TP-Link 😅
Fairly sure you don't turn up gain, you turn up power (and typically they run at the maximum legal limit for your country anyway). Antenna gain is a static thing based on the antenna design.
One of my new considerations for where I move is cost of internet and available speeds and company options
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My parents we recently switched to this, and it works amazing. Before this we had to setup 3 routers because there are 5 of us and decent space
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There is another advantage to Mesh WiFi: Expert management.
I had a problem with hackers for several years; knocking my router offline and/or crapping up performance (which required me to reboot it). I tried several different routers, including flashing one with dd-wrt. I even tried an ISP-managed router (which was both better and worse at the same time).
A Mesh router entirely FIXED THE PROBLEM.
The advantage is that Mesh routers are managed by some AI/human combination in the cloud -- experts who spend more time keeping up with router firmware than I do.
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I have one X20 hooked up via Ethernet to my T Mobile internet gateway. I put it in wireless router mode, so it can handle all the traffic on my network. It works great. It nearly doubled both my upload and download speeds and handles all my devices connected perfectly.
I bought DECO X60 units for both my parents and sister's houses and they work perfect. One 3 floor concrete house and one is an apartment with the elevator shaft in the middle
I have this X20 Deco mesh, it’s a fantastic bit of kit for like £220.
Put your isp router in modem mode, connect the deco via Ethernet cable, download the app and it’s an easy set up.
I have my oc upstairs, and I have a deco in my office, and I use a Ethernet cable straight into that deco, getting around 300 mbs. It’s an amazing bit of tech for the price, and you can add more decos if you need them.
I don’t think they need to be in range the main deco, just another deco. I’ve installed this in 3 floor homes where the main unit is in a basement and I had over 100mbps on the top floor. You can even see to which deco they connect to, the reason yours configured themselves to the main unit is because you actually set them up next to it, so the strongest signal is the main one.
I’m 99% positive I have this exact system at home. Replaced my Google WiFi with this. Paired with 400mbps Spectrum, I really can’t complain. The pod in my upstairs apartment actually reaches out into the street and I still have connection when I get in my car. Not great, but it’s there! Awesome system! I have 3 pods covering 2 levels. Cannot complain. It makes my Spectrum internet seem better…
Been using tp-link deco s4 units for the last year, in a highly congested area, and am legitimately super impressed by the kit. They've been flawless thus far. I expanded my original 3 piece kit with another few units too and absolutely no discernable performance impact for normal use unlike my old wifi extender set up.
They don't all need to be in range of the Main deco, the 3rd deco can connect to the second.
I have a 1000sqft house, but my wife's crafting business uses tens of thousands of 1 foot long steel wires with a random orientations(basically chaff). It really confuses wifi hardware. These were the devices I had in my amazon cart to solve the issue. The one thing I was wary of that was not visible in any official documentation was the number and placement of the ethernet ports. Now that I see that there are two per unit, I am going to buy them.
Option also with the network sockets on each, you can plug items INTO it (on both sockets for each unit) to fool them into thinking they are connected to a wired network, have a work network phone that doesn't have wifi, plugged its network cable into the deco unit, it thinks it's wired and worked first time, but the data is going through the wifi.
Been running this setup for a while now,. I would say that the main unit tends to run HOT so I suggest placing it in an area with good airflow or adding a fan for the deco.
I have the previous generation of these, I have set the guest WiFi to IoT. All the smart bulbs and doohickies are on a separate WiFi network to my personal stuff.
I daisy-chain 4 Deco M5s across my 2800 sq ft home with units in the attic, 2nd floor, and 1st floor. Works like a charm.
I love my X20's. I don't have a big house but I do have Ring cameras out in the yard and on my doorbell and having a super extendo wifi bubble really helps keeping those things online and streaming good quality video.
For a house you can just use a good CPL with Wifi build-in and duplicate the main wifi network, to create a sort of mesh while keeping the main router (and all it's "advanced" features). A CPL will not be as fast as a direct ethernet, but with a good electrical installation in the house you can easily get 200-300Mbps through the duplicated Wifi, and way more stable compared to a Wifi repeater
CPL (Courant Porteur en Ligne or Power Line Communication) is a technology that allows data to be transmitted over a building's existing electrical wiring.
I had a tplink router in like 2010-2013. It worked really nice. I still have it aswell, but no longer use it. Good to see they are still alive
I got the Netgear orbi for my parents place and it does very well(I don't have gigabit to fully test unfortunately), but I do wish that the satellites also had an Ethernet connection to the main unit.
It is limiting where you can put the satellites.