@@mickleman52 amen, as soon as WiFi 6e came out I got WiFi 6 and now that WiFi 7 is here I’m eyeing an upgrade to the older TP Link XE75’s from the X20’s and handing down my X20’s to my uncle therefore reusing
@@cesarvarela5438 for my use case, aka having the cheapest (90/mo.) internet package (300down/20up)Comcast offers in my area, and only having 3 or 4 devices on the network at a time... wifi 5 is good enough lol.
Now we just need an accompanying Tech Quickie to explain the difference between TP-Link Deco Mesh, TP-Link One Mesh, and TP-Link's implementation of Easy Mesh.
Im unsure about the others but with deco, you can only manage it through *their mobile app*, like initial setup, changing wifi settings and such as the WebUI is non existent (well it does but, really you cant do nothing about it other than to check some statistics), there has been a thread on the forum asking for a proper WebUI opened for 2 years now and they just wont respond to the thread
Yeah I just checked here in Spokane Washington (450 km from Vancouver BC) and my connection to a Seattle Washington Server (375 km away) was 10ms with a 682.8 Mbps download and 901.8 Mbps upload. The Pacific Northwest of North America really has some spotty internet....
Own this at home. The range on the individual nodes is just ok. The set up was kind of painful for some reason requiring a ton of restarts. Now that it’s configured it works great and short range WiFi 7 is awesome (although only a few devices actually support it yet) Switching from node to node also only works when it feels like it… I’m often going into the app and setting a preferred location.
yeah I got x5000s and unless I'm missing something you can't have multiple WiFi SSIDs outside of the "guest" wifi. a bit annoying imo. same thing about switching from node to node is annoying
Did You test it with WiFi 7 client like Pixel 9 or iPhone 16? Does MLO work in a network which contains both non-wifi 7 and wifi 7 compatible devices? I have BE65 which is the same as BE63 in my country, only using 5/6/6e devices for now.
Home construction material, congested/uncongested WiFi neighborhood, did you place it near enough for 'reasonable' use? Doing all that does it still suck badly??
How well does it work with wifi backhaul? I have the S4, which works great with ethernet back haul, but not well enough to game on with wifi backhaul. We're moving into a bigger place (still renting) and if I don't need to run ethernet throughout it would be great. Its 3 a storey brick and drywall and the home office is on the other side of the garage, so the distance is annoyingly large for ethernet.
Same. If I was going to set something up for Wi-Fi only, clearly I don't want it connecting to the Internet to function. Some valid use cases: IoT devices that have no place being connected to the Internet; LAN gaming parties that use wireless for connection; NAS that aren't allowed to be accessible from the Internet.
Had been having issues with WiFi cutting in and out for the longest time and Xfinity was useless. Set the all in one box to bridge mode. Installed Open sense on a spare PC. Dual port gigabit NIC, $20 unmanaged gigabit switch, power line Ethernet, and a ubiquity AP. Best network I've ever had. A bit pricey, but totally worth it. Even created a separate VLAN for my IoT devices. Thanks for all the knowledge you guys provide.
@@celchronicles but 10gb switch would do 10gb, this one can't I mean, probably can wirelessly, but you can't even connect it to a fast upstream network so what's the point?
Something to note about all tplink deco units is that you cannot choose which channel your WiFi uses. This means that if you have and issue similar to what Linus had with WiFi speakers in his house you won't be able to fix it. I wish that tplink would provide this feature as it has caused me issues with in home streaming.
It does let you do that although not manually. If you have it perform Network Optimization, it will change WiFi channels automatically as part of the operation if it sees any interference in its current channel.
I bought the 3-pack when I upgraded to 2.5 fiber service. It's been working great for me. I have two nodes in my house that provide excellent coverage and I ran a cable to my man cave in the back yard with the third node sitting in there. When connected to the MLO wifi I get similar results on my phone as is shown in the video. I love this setup.
While the hardware is really cool, I hate the fact that it: 1. Requires an app to be installed, no browser based setup 2. Requires an active internet connection for initial setup. We got a few of them for our office, and I wanted to set them up on my desk, then, once configuration was done, go and plug one in at the rack, but no! I have to go to the rack, plug it in, have it wrongly auto-detect a dynamic IP, then sh*t itself with the /31 address my ISP gave me with no clear error message Edit: To be clear, it's not wrong to have an app. At home I have a MikroTik and their app is great, but _requiring_ an app is the main issue here.
Also - Don't forget if your switch or switches aren't on the TP-Link compatibility list then these mesh APs will often fail to disable redundant ethernet links properly (RSTP Fail) and create network killing loops! There is no way to manually intervene or change the rules either! Had to get rid of my Deco Mesh due to this, cause I wasn't about to replace thousands of dollars worth of switches over it with no guarantee that would fix the problem. Mikrotik Roaming works great for wireless once you set it up right, and I have proper control over the backhauls (wired and wireless both).
I have some older Deco units and they've been pretty great. The Ethernet ports are great - hooking in via Ethernet has always performed better than the wifi cards on my machines.
Same. I have the Deco XE75 for my house, and it solved the router range problem pretty much overnight. Getting full 500Mbps speeds downstairs and around 400Mbps upstairs.
I got the old Deco M5 back when that was their main one. Easily the best router setup I ever had so far. Super stable and faster than my previous setup with much better range. I used it for a while with wireless backhaul and it was great. Added MoCA for wired backhaul this past spring, and now it's even better. I've been very happy with the Deco line.
You're wifi doesn't have to suck. . . you just gotta have $600 of pocket change just lying around. Nah brah, our wifi NEEDS to suck at that price point.
TBF he did say that was for the 3 pack which is for large, multi-story building/house. The single one for smaller houses/apartments is $210 which is much more comparative to other competing routers.
@@Hadeks_Marow and bussines mesh network would use something as slick as ubiquity unifiy u7 pro with poe and not some big tube brick with each unit needing it's own power cable
I'm in a house in the mountains with no wiring for networking and no high speed internet. My only internet option was starlink, and I didn't want to do a bunch of wiring myself for a temporary place. I got spme Deco XE75's and the whole setup is... fine. When everything is working it's great, with wireless backhaul from across the house i can game at usually around 70-100ms ping, and usually get around 150mbps down and 20mbps up throughout the house. The app is a pain, and i have had issued with wired clients not being assigned IPs properly, and firmware updates breaking the wireless backhaul. For my case it definitely was a good choice, but they would really need to improve their firmware and software a LOT for me to actually recommend in general
Thanks for the video linus were FINALLY getting Fiber internet in our house soon they are installing it through out the neighborhood right now. So I'm looking at wifi 7 routers for our new Fiber connection. :D
I have 3 Deco-X20s, in a 3 story house - works great and covers the yard as well. It doesn't have all the controls that my old R7000 had, but is does everything I need, and has been rock stable. Highly recommend the X20 is you don't need WiFi 7 - great bang-for-buck.
I appreciate you going through the setup. We've never used WiFi before; only wired, because my laptop's alway on my lap next to the jewels, and we're useally in one room close to the splitter.
you may want to double check the additional features. i returned the BE63 because of the guest/IOT networks not being separate (just different SSIDs), reports not working, parent controls are paid, and only 160/320mhz kept switching to 80mhz, and for the big one, it had identical speeds and distance to my current eero 6 pros. Also their support is a 0/10. They only use scripted responses.
I also returned mine. The wifi speed was actually improved in my case compared to my old eero pro 6, but the app experience and overall software was just too difficult to live with. The VPN client was particularly bad, borderline unusable. For anyone more advanced and looking to tweak settings and is accustomed to debugging things, this is utterly useless. On occasions, some devices would fail to reconnect to the Deco wifi after a reboot or settings change. The Reports the app provides are completely useless (it only tracks the total number of connected devices, no stats on data usage)
I have the WIFI 6E versions of these and even with older Decos connected to them for extended Dual Band wifi, the connection speeds are still sick. compared to what I used to have! When I finally do build my house, I will be switching to wired backhaul and know that they'll be SO much faster.
I deployed 3 BE85 (big 10gbit brother to the BE63.. the biggets brother being the BE95) and can confirm they are amazing (granted a kit of 3 was over $1000). I had an issue where the wifi could NOT penetrate the thick concrete walls and I needed to bounce the WiFi down a long corridor. Using 3 DECOs solved the terrible wifi issue for the client with the added benefit of being able to use 6ghz as the backhaul to ensure the devices all had great speed. Oh also forgot. You can plug any device into one of the satellites via ethernet and use the DECO as your connection. Instead of using your crappy onboard wireless you can use a 2.5gbit port to the deco and use the 6ghz backhaul which means much better speeds all while providing wifi to all surrounding devices.
I got a BE63 for streaming games from my PC to my Vision Pro for sim racing. My network telemetry readout shows only 3ms delay time. It’s fantastic- oh and it updates firmware itself in the background so as 7 matures I’ll always be up to date. I recommend
Not one of these, but I've received a Deco XE75 Pro two weeks ago to upgrade to 6E in one of the spots of my place, where I mostly use 6E devices at the moment. I've also been using a 3 pack of Deco M4E for 6 years at my parents house and I'm really really happy with all of them. Nice design, absolutely rock solid performance and stability over these years, nice and easy to use phone app for management... Only con I found is that initial configuration can be a bit tricky some times while detecting devices for the first time, but once they're running, they're amazing!
Instead of three of those giant things, I'd love a set where you get two of them with a repeater unit that doubles as a basic surge protector for two wall outlets. Plug the repeater in somewhere where you still want to use the wall outlets but don't need LAN half-way between the two main units. Bonus points if: - the app helps you optimize which outlet will work best versus not using it at all, - the surge protection is decent, - it gives more than two outlets without taking up much more space, - it had one or two fast charge USB ports, - it has built-in battery back-up, in case you have a UPS or two keeping everything else up, - and/or at least one outlet offered power conditioning.
Why is everything cloud based? Screw an app, give me a basic web gui. And you couldn't even get it setup without the Internet! Am I the only one thinking Data collection? Not everything needs to call home to the manufacturer.
I have the BE85 model (BE19000) That one has 10 gig and 5 gig ports and it really shine when you transfer a local steam games from your pc to for sample your Handheld.
@0:22 does it really do 10 Gbps over wireless? I dont see how it could do more than 2.5 over wireless if each port is limited to 2.5 or am I missing something? Wouldn’t you be limited to the port speed?
Ethernet and WiFi aren't the same, you can be rated for a higher WiFi speed if the LAN port only supports a lower bandwidth, not to mention its 2.5 Gbps x4 assuming they all are full bandwidth meaning it'd be pushing more than 10 at full cap over ethernet anyway
I bought the Deco X55’s after the last LMG video on them. I love my set so much i set my mom up with the exact same ones. I don’t need to upgrade but i wouldn’t be opposed to suggesting these too someone looking to upgrade.
Been rocking these for a few months now. Getting 1124 down and 1000 up on a 940/940 ATT fiber connection. Using MLO on a couple of iPhone 16 series and 6E on a couple MacBook Pros. The speeds are amazing. Surprisingly, my M3 Pro can connect to the MLO network, and it did so automatically instead of the 6ghz network i had set up. That is weird since it does not Wifi 7. Mine are hardwired. Its solid
One thing you didn't mention about the Deco mesh systems, you can add other people to admin your service. Which is great for people who are tech support for older relatives. My mom's apartment has the bell internet stuff on the opposite side of her apt and it's surrounded by things like washerdryer/etc. Luckily all the rooms were wired with ethernet. Bought her a deco m4 3 pack a couple of years ago, great coverage and speeds. Bonus is I can manage it for her.
This is correct, I bough the x20s a few years ago and it was not really advertised that this was the case. So yes, you sit at your desk with a computer and web browser right there and have to pick up your phone and launch an app to fully manage the devices. The X20s have a very limited web interface, basically, update firmware, reboot and look at devices connected. Any real management is App only.
@@varunaX you don't understand, there's a difference between browser managed device and app controled device, main is registering to something to use your device and having proxy server at tp-link's hq or some chinese server, but with browser managed device, you can give power to device and use ethernet cable or wifi from device to connect to device, put device's ip address in browser and connect to device. one is yours and the other is highly dependant on creators will
The Deco series seems to be decent. I have installed several for customers over the past year, year and a half. We normally use the Deco S4 (3-Pack), Nice since you can mesh wirelessly or can wire mesh, OR even connect a wired device to the back on one of the nodes and get internet that way. Like a wireless Network switch
The issue is that for half the price of a single one of these units you can now buy a UniFi Express with routing and AP features (granted only WiFi 6), which you can add WiFi 7 APs onto for ≈£/$150-200 a piece. If you later decide you want more routing power you can get something like a cloud gateway max & the Express can turn into a normal UniFi AP. I don’t see the point of locking into a specific wireless mesh system (with all the flaws of a wireless mesh system) for the same to slightly higher price point over a modular system like UniFi
or get the TP-Link X20 or X55 for much cheaper (~$50 per module). I don't mind being locked into a specific mesh network if it is works flawlessly, and I can just set it and forget it. I have the X20 working with 1Gb fiber and couldn't be happier.
Honestly, I would dig a status LED on the bottom. No need to turn it of (or put a sticker over it) if you have it in the bedroom, but you can still se it if there is a problem.
Decos are notoriously bad for only being configurable via the mobile app. No web interface or anything like that, so if the manufacturer removes the app from the store or removes the support for your device in an update, you're out of luck. And the fact that you need internet to set them up.
just bought a pair of DECO E4 things and they work great. for context out internet sucks in rural Scotland but this along with a grant for better internet works a treat. obviously with better internet the Deco stuff also works better and better.
It's good yeah, it's just really damn expensive. Note that Deco units are all compatible with each other so if you have an existing Deco mesh you could just buy one instead of a 3 pack and add it to your existing mesh, probably the main unit that handles the WAN traffic since it's got four 2.5gbps ports where as even the best Wifi 6E deco has only one 2.5gbps port and rest 1gbps ports. They're also not vlan compatible, even though they clearly have the hardware inside that could implement them since the guest wifi network setup uses a vlan (if you link your deco with a managed switch you'll need to setup a special vlan rule on your switch for the guest network). But TP-Link don't want you to be able to use these in a vlan setup because they want you to buy their enterprise grade Omada AP instead.
funnily enough (had to start with a classic linus-ism) after a previous tp-link deco sponsored video, I won a pair of their first 6E units from the giveaway. I've been super happy with them, so good chance my next upgrade will be a deco set also. thanks again btw!
I have one of the tplink 55 pcie card ones. Instead of my bluetooth cutting out when I walk out the door I can get up the stairs before it cuts out. Unlike my rog b550xe where I can leave the yard and walk down the back lane and it's still connected.
I got 2 and love them, upgraded from the first gen google nest. 😂Now I want a third for a detached garage but have trouble justifying the cost of a single unit. I wish I had gotten the 3 pack from the start.
Every time I hear "TP-Link," all I can think about is toilet paper held together by those little perforated links. Kinda like a Wi-Fi signal - strong at first, but eventually, you’re gonna run out! 😆 Whether it's your connection dropping or the last square disappearing, you're always left scrambling!
I have a set of TP-Link Decos BE85s. And I have a desktop with Intel WiFi 7 that supports MLO (Multi-Link Output, the ability of WiFi 7 to have a single device connect over 2.4 GHz, 5 GHz, and 6 GHz all at the same time.) The BE85s also have a pair of 10Gbit Ethernet ports. So I have one system connected via 10Gbit Ethernet, and my WiFi 7 system via WiFi MLO. Intel's "iperf" gets me about 4 Gbps at best. Connecting to 10Gbit Ethernet on the same desktop gets me 9.8 Gbps on iperf. But it's still WAAAY better than the Asus WiFi 6E station I had before. And the mesh works far more reliably.
Looks like most people could slowly get rid of all the cables for everything but really high end network requirements. But with these price, which will probably be kept this high artificially until Wifi comes around in 5+ years or so, many people won't. Not to mention the lack of Wifi 7 devices out in the wild. That aside, it seems that TP-Link has been providing quite a few nice devices in recent years, especially affordable ones in the home sector.
I live in a rented flat that turned out horrible to use power line connections, I coudln't use the existing TV cable to jury-rig data transfer, the router wifi just couldn't penetrate the thick walls, so a set of earlier TP Deco 6E saved me from having abismal connectivity.
have a pair of deco x20, they have been great so far. the mesh works quite well and hands off devices easily. The only downsides would be: the app which is quite "dumb" but still has all the required features, probably because the main target market for decos is the avg consumer and they didn't wanna make it too complicated to the average user. Also, the web interface has rather limited functionality so gotta use the app. plus i dont appreciate the whole create an account to use this attitude that tp link has, but it does allow for remote access, so that's that. id say most deco products are a solid buy at their price points as they are considerable cheaper than many enthusiast counter part if you're trynna save a buck. infact most tp link products have been solid and reliable over the years.
I upgraded my parents' house w/ this and its night and day from what they had before. Some of their phones & laptops actually use Wi-Fi 7 as well and for large properties like theirs it's great by the pool and way out front outside as well.
I would like to learn more about network management features of these kind of products. Like: can you set it up behind an existing router, only as APs? Does it support multiple networks (guest; IOT)? Etc…
If it's Deco, it does indeed have to suck. You can't isolate different SSIDs to different VLANs. If your uplink goes down, the entire network goes down. The wired backhaul basically needs its own wired network. Forget about using any existing Ethernet infrastructure. You can't lock it down so it doesn't phone home with your data, even using an external firewall.
Currently on sale for Amazon's Prime Day event for $349 for the 2-pack which makes it $299 after using the promo code. Plus, if you pay with a Prime Visa card you get 20% back which effectively brings the price down to about $240. At that price how could I say no.
We have an Eero 7 with 3 units, all wired into our 2.5Gb symmetrical fiber optic to the house service. Still have random lags when we have over 12 devices connected in the same game etc. I can have perfect ping on my iPad, and my brother right next to me lagging out. I can’t wait until it’s possible to get fast and affordable low latency WiFi to 30+ devices at once in your home.
I'm in a 2 bed house in the UK with me and my son online, he has a wired connection as does most of the house and I use wifi on my laptops. I get about 50meg on wifi, my maximum speed from my ISP as I only have fibre to the cabinet, and he gets about the same on his wired connection. If I changed to wifi 6 I'd still only get 50meg and he'd get the same on his wired connection so there's no upgrade path for me. We are supposed to be getting fibre later next year with up to 1GB speeds which is when I might invest in a better fibre router if the ISP supplied one is useless.
3 Decos all connected to a switch for a wired backhaul should be doable... but from my experience with drop outs with 2 seperate Deco deployments... a wired backhaul works best peer to peer style which is less than ideal
What’s the update on the Government discussing a ban on TP Link due to security flaws? Apparently the majority of routers are manufactured in china. So how does one purchase a secure router? I recently bought this and it’s working well but now I’m concerned with the latest new. Your thoughts?
One note to every new Deco user, never update the firmware if it's feature update. As a Deco m5 user 2 months after purchase new firmware update caused lot of disconnection and high ping randomly. According to Tplink, disabling mimo/beamforming and roaming fixes it which defeats the purpose of mesh router. Replaced them with Omada Ax3000 and even though it's far 25dBm EAP650 is a massive upgrade without constant disconnection during teams and zoom meetings. I'm from India so WiFi 6 is the that's widely approved and available but 6e and 7 should be much better with 6G if you're near to router
Can you daisy chain the backhaul? Say you want an outside satellite out of range from the main router. you will have to go through another satellite and Daisy chain the backhaul in order to get the stellite working.
I'd pick the GL-iNet Flint 2 over a mesh network hands down, has always been very reliable and fast, with signal strength being picked up down the road. You can turn down tx power if you don't need such range.
The biggest technical issue is that the Deco's in general is that they are ONLY compatible with other Decos for Wifi Mesh! The mesh system does not work with the rest of the TP Link brands like the Archer devices! My friend brought a $600 TP Link AX11000 Router and a bunch of Decos (X90s) expecting them all to talk! They don't and won't!! Thankfully the X90 can connect to his ISP without a separate router!, Note: The Decos are really good if you are setting it up for people who aren't very internet savey and who are happy to stay in the Deco Ecosystem (I have used for the inlaws because they just work low to no faff). Just make sure you keep them away from the pointless monthly subscriptions!
I use the old Wi-Fi 6E models in our condo that is on the second floor with businesses below us. On the third floor is our master bedroom and office... Which is where I have the main hub set up at... I then have the second one placed in the window of the second floor. Aunt across the parking lot, there is another window that leads to the detached garages shared individual garages, where the router is set up in the window. Overall, I can wirelessly connect to all of my devices set up in the garage including my garage door, Aunt, I'm able to get about 150 megs download versus our 1000 down in the house. It's not perfect but it does 95% of what I need. Whenever the time comes for me to upgrade to a Tesla or something of the sort with software updates in the garage, that may be where I run into a bit of a slowdown... But even then it's not too bad. I would still imagine you could download a software update within a 4-Hour plug-in or so.
The one thing that annoys me with the older set of Decos that I run is that the guest network only applies to WIFI. Anyone plugging into a network socket has access to your entire network. You have the option of isolating any client. But only after they got in. The lack of optional default distrust is almost a dealbraker for me.
@0:21 - Please tell me how it can have "... speeds of over 10 Gbps", when it's ports are limited to 2.5 Gbps Ethernet???? Even if you were aggregating the three Units total capacity it could never exceed 7.5 Gbps throughput. If you can't connect to the unit with a 10 gigabit Ethernet, the throughput can'b be 10 Gbps. Even the box says "The Ultimate 2.5 Gbps Connectivity". Are you suggesting that it can aggregate all 4 ports in order to create a 10 Gbps connection?
Hey Linus, if you like wifi 7 you should look at interviews from the people working on wifi 8. It sound like it could be a legit competitor with an ethernet cable.
linus in the past: "haven't we already said that one central access point is better than many interconnected spread around the house?" linus now: "they are awesome and they can be connected with ethernet or wirelessly to bounce access to the internet."
there's multiple ways to make your wifi better and there should be a video on that too. A lot of which are much cheaper or free. Relative to this. This is what you'd go for when you aren't satisfied with all of those other options
For what it's worth, my XE75 kit for WiFi 6E doesn't perform nearly as well when in router mode. WiFi speeds are noticeably slower, and it is less stable. It's been a while since I tried this, so perhaps firmware updates addressed this. I would like to see your basic testing process include both router and AP mode for products like this.
Does one really need an app on their phone and to connect to it from the outside Internet to set it up, though? I hope it's possible to just set it up by connecting directly to it from one of the Ethernet ports.
As far as I know, the Decos still require the app for setup and administration. That's how my old Deco M5 set has always been. I was a bit disappointed to find that out after I bought them since a web interface would be the most versatile, but it wasn't a big enough problem for me to return them. I get why that would be a problem for some who might consider them. Despite that shortcoming, the M5 has been very good for me and are still in use.
What does suck, is paying a monthly subscription for parental control. That kills it for me, parental control should be standard with the product like googles mesh.
You dont need a wifi 7 client just a cat 5 cable. I use my PC in my office directly connected to a Deco BE63 and use its backhall to connect to the main Deco in the living room. I get 1.2gbs speeds.
Legit has me tempted to finally replace my tempermental OpenWRT bridge hobbled together using an old router to connect my desktop to the my main router.
I'd bought the Deco XE75 system based on your guys' short circuit a couple years ago. One major flaw with TP Link's app though; there is no way to set channels! It will "automatically" find a channel when it boots, but from my prodding and a number of entries in their customer support, there is NO way to manually set what channel the AP's should be on.
You really want wired backhaul to get good wifi range on these type of routers. I'm going to be getting MOCA adapters to connect a two mesh devices together via cable through the wall.
Someone needs to put Wi-Fi extenders inside ceiling can lights. Put the antenna behind the LED panel in the bottom, hook up a network cable to the extender in the ceiling, and you could have PERFECT full speed 6Ghz in every room.
Xlnt. Will move to it eventually. But even my older TP-Link wifi 6 trio do a good job. And this is from a guy who remembers (barely) a 300 baud printing terminal.
Finally, Wi-Fi seven is available. Now I can get Wi-Fi 6E because it’s cheaper.
finally, now when my wifi 5 router dies in a few years I can pick up super cheap 6E routers on the 2nd hand market.
@@mickleman52 amen, as soon as WiFi 6e came out I got WiFi 6 and now that WiFi 7 is here I’m eyeing an upgrade to the older TP Link XE75’s from the X20’s and handing down my X20’s to my uncle therefore reusing
@@cesarvarela5438 for my use case, aka having the cheapest (90/mo.) internet package (300down/20up)Comcast offers in my area, and only having 3 or 4 devices on the network at a time... wifi 5 is good enough lol.
i got my Deco for like 200$ at Costco and it was a 3 pack so amazing deal 6E too
@arc_lab. bro I just bought the costco tp link last week. Moving into a bigger house
That Teams sound gave me a heart attack
Yeah🤣🤣
it always reminds u of work/school. and i always suffer a small heart attack if i hear it when I'm relaxing
0:41
Bruh I dead ass looked at my work laptop then grabbed my tablet lol.
same
Now we just need an accompanying Tech Quickie to explain the difference between TP-Link Deco Mesh, TP-Link One Mesh, and TP-Link's implementation of Easy Mesh.
😂 no one can make sense of it
which is the TP you use in the bathroom while on the toilet?
Im unsure about the others but with deco, you can only manage it through *their mobile app*, like initial setup, changing wifi settings and such as the WebUI is non existent (well it does but, really you cant do nothing about it other than to check some statistics), there has been a thread on the forum asking for a proper WebUI opened for 2 years now and they just wont respond to the thread
@@mickleman52duh, the ones that look like toilet rolls.. oh wait.. 😅
@luqmanfuadmuhasadz8736 the normal routers get the Teather App and a WebUI that kind of sucks compared to the Linksys router I just upgraded from.
''850mb Upload - that really wasn't that fast''
*sobs in rural Germany*
Don't worry. Australia sobs with you.
Cries in Latin America
Yeah I just checked here in Spokane Washington (450 km from Vancouver BC) and my connection to a Seattle Washington Server (375 km away) was 10ms with a 682.8 Mbps download and 901.8 Mbps upload. The Pacific Northwest of North America really has some spotty internet....
Nigeria sobs with you 😭
Neuland
Own this at home. The range on the individual nodes is just ok. The set up was kind of painful for some reason requiring a ton of restarts. Now that it’s configured it works great and short range WiFi 7 is awesome (although only a few devices actually support it yet)
Switching from node to node also only works when it feels like it… I’m often going into the app and setting a preferred location.
yeah I got x5000s and unless I'm missing something you can't have multiple WiFi SSIDs outside of the "guest" wifi. a bit annoying imo. same thing about switching from node to node is annoying
Just had to follow up that I have a WiFi 7 enabled handheld (AYN Odin 2 Mini) and local game streaming is siiick.
Did You test it with WiFi 7 client like Pixel 9 or iPhone 16? Does MLO work in a network which contains both non-wifi 7 and wifi 7 compatible devices? I have BE65 which is the same as BE63 in my country, only using 5/6/6e devices for now.
Home construction material, congested/uncongested WiFi neighborhood, did you place it near enough for 'reasonable' use?
Doing all that does it still suck badly??
How well does it work with wifi backhaul? I have the S4, which works great with ethernet back haul, but not well enough to game on with wifi backhaul. We're moving into a bigger place (still renting) and if I don't need to run ethernet throughout it would be great. Its 3 a storey brick and drywall and the home office is on the other side of the garage, so the distance is annoyingly large for ethernet.
0:41 I thought I got a work Teams message...
there should be a trigger warning on this video
Same. I had to rewind to confirm
I immediately went "who is tf is messaging me" 😂
I was so annoyed someone messaged me....
DUDE, i literally checked my teams app as soon as i heard that 💀
This type of video is like a semi annual thing now
Why on Earth do you need an Internet connection to be able to set up WiFi? WiFi is local LAN.
My thoughts exactly. Setup via an app *and* requiring an internet connection make this a no buy no recommend for me.
Same. If I was going to set something up for Wi-Fi only, clearly I don't want it connecting to the Internet to function.
Some valid use cases: IoT devices that have no place being connected to the Internet; LAN gaming parties that use wireless for connection; NAS that aren't allowed to be accessible from the Internet.
TP-link has become a live service locking behind software for subscription.
You can setup the device without internet but you need it to communicate with your isp settings
You can only set up and manage these via the cloud and an app. Not even a browser interface. This is not cool. This is why I returned mine.
4:37 "I have my flaws, but I will take care of the wifi if its down." Needed a smash cut to Jake fixing Linus's network.
Nothing has to suck if you have the money for it
...and a 3 or 4 story house, apparently.
@@paulc5389 true, it would have an atrocious taste
@@paulc5389😂 wow you improved upon the joke.
@@hisfatness522Hold up 💀
Had been having issues with WiFi cutting in and out for the longest time and Xfinity was useless. Set the all in one box to bridge mode. Installed Open sense on a spare PC. Dual port gigabit NIC, $20 unmanaged gigabit switch, power line Ethernet, and a ubiquity AP. Best network I've ever had. A bit pricey, but totally worth it. Even created a separate VLAN for my IoT devices. Thanks for all the knowledge you guys provide.
i have no idea what you said
alternatively... did you try turning it off and on again? (how ever call with xfinity goes)
"oh thats pretty cool, i wonder how much it costs? Maybe a couple hundred?"
JESUS
Yeah, wifi routers aren’t cheap
Honestly compared to drill holes & 10gb switch & access points & running cable through the entire house..... This is on the cheap side
@@celchronicles but 10gb switch would do 10gb, this one can't
I mean, probably can wirelessly, but you can't even connect it to a fast upstream network so what's the point?
@@Z4KIUS over multiple ingest source I guess? Although yeah it is weird that none of the weird ports are 10gb....
@@CGGS_0 Yeah, nice feature rich routers aren't cheap. 😢
Something to note about all tplink deco units is that you cannot choose which channel your WiFi uses. This means that if you have and issue similar to what Linus had with WiFi speakers in his house you won't be able to fix it. I wish that tplink would provide this feature as it has caused me issues with in home streaming.
It does let you do that although not manually. If you have it perform Network Optimization, it will change WiFi channels automatically as part of the operation if it sees any interference in its current channel.
@@TerryblePersonthe problem is that each unit is sharing the wireless same channel.
He totally missed the dad joke "Yvonne is the wifi love"
I bought the 3-pack when I upgraded to 2.5 fiber service. It's been working great for me. I have two nodes in my house that provide excellent coverage and I ran a cable to my man cave in the back yard with the third node sitting in there. When connected to the MLO wifi I get similar results on my phone as is shown in the video. I love this setup.
While the hardware is really cool, I hate the fact that it:
1. Requires an app to be installed, no browser based setup
2. Requires an active internet connection for initial setup. We got a few of them for our office, and I wanted to set them up on my desk, then, once configuration was done, go and plug one in at the rack, but no! I have to go to the rack, plug it in, have it wrongly auto-detect a dynamic IP, then sh*t itself with the /31 address my ISP gave me with no clear error message
Edit: To be clear, it's not wrong to have an app. At home I have a MikroTik and their app is great, but _requiring_ an app is the main issue here.
Also - Don't forget if your switch or switches aren't on the TP-Link compatibility list then these mesh APs will often fail to disable redundant ethernet links properly (RSTP Fail) and create network killing loops! There is no way to manually intervene or change the rules either! Had to get rid of my Deco Mesh due to this, cause I wasn't about to replace thousands of dollars worth of switches over it with no guarantee that would fix the problem. Mikrotik Roaming works great for wireless once you set it up right, and I have proper control over the backhauls (wired and wireless both).
I have some older Deco units and they've been pretty great. The Ethernet ports are great - hooking in via Ethernet has always performed better than the wifi cards on my machines.
Same. I have the Deco XE75 for my house, and it solved the router range problem pretty much overnight. Getting full 500Mbps speeds downstairs and around 400Mbps upstairs.
I got the old Deco M5 back when that was their main one. Easily the best router setup I ever had so far. Super stable and faster than my previous setup with much better range. I used it for a while with wireless backhaul and it was great. Added MoCA for wired backhaul this past spring, and now it's even better. I've been very happy with the Deco line.
I for sure love short circuit not as a review or as unboxing, but as a reaction channel to products.
Its a nice in between and I think thats great
Thanks for showing switching off option, it's a thing that I miss when reviewing a network type products.
You're wifi doesn't have to suck. . . you just gotta have $600 of pocket change just lying around.
Nah brah, our wifi NEEDS to suck at that price point.
yeah no way i'm sinking that much money in this shit. 1gbps is just barely enough for me still
Im pretty sure this is for corporation business etc and not for average guy
@@frostyjeff It's not. You would want WAY more than 3 for a business. Mesh networks are for home use.
TBF he did say that was for the 3 pack which is for large, multi-story building/house. The single one for smaller houses/apartments is $210 which is much more comparative to other competing routers.
@@Hadeks_Marow and bussines mesh network would use something as slick as ubiquity unifiy u7 pro with poe and not some big tube brick with each unit needing it's own power cable
I'm in a house in the mountains with no wiring for networking and no high speed internet. My only internet option was starlink, and I didn't want to do a bunch of wiring myself for a temporary place. I got spme Deco XE75's and the whole setup is... fine.
When everything is working it's great, with wireless backhaul from across the house i can game at usually around 70-100ms ping, and usually get around 150mbps down and 20mbps up throughout the house. The app is a pain, and i have had issued with wired clients not being assigned IPs properly, and firmware updates breaking the wireless backhaul.
For my case it definitely was a good choice, but they would really need to improve their firmware and software a LOT for me to actually recommend in general
wish every router didn't require an app and collect my data
i don't know about this model exactly but if it is like other tplink products You can set it up via the ip address in your browser
I used TP-Link's Deco products before and it's always a pleasent surprise how nice they are. Super easy to setup and they just work well.
Thanks for the video linus were FINALLY getting Fiber internet in our house soon they are installing it through out the neighborhood right now. So I'm looking at wifi 7 routers for our new Fiber connection. :D
I have 3 Deco-X20s, in a 3 story house - works great and covers the yard as well. It doesn't have all the controls that my old R7000 had, but is does everything I need, and has been rock stable. Highly recommend the X20 is you don't need WiFi 7 - great bang-for-buck.
I appreciate you going through the setup. We've never used WiFi before; only wired, because my laptop's alway on my lap next to the jewels, and we're useally in one room close to the splitter.
you may want to double check the additional features. i returned the BE63 because of the guest/IOT networks not being separate (just different SSIDs), reports not working, parent controls are paid, and only 160/320mhz kept switching to 80mhz, and for the big one, it had identical speeds and distance to my current eero 6 pros.
Also their support is a 0/10. They only use scripted responses.
I also returned mine. The wifi speed was actually improved in my case compared to my old eero pro 6, but the app experience and overall software was just too difficult to live with. The VPN client was particularly bad, borderline unusable.
For anyone more advanced and looking to tweak settings and is accustomed to debugging things, this is utterly useless.
On occasions, some devices would fail to reconnect to the Deco wifi after a reboot or settings change.
The Reports the app provides are completely useless (it only tracks the total number of connected devices, no stats on data usage)
I have the WIFI 6E versions of these and even with older Decos connected to them for extended Dual Band wifi, the connection speeds are still sick. compared to what I used to have!
When I finally do build my house, I will be switching to wired backhaul and know that they'll be SO much faster.
I deployed 3 BE85 (big 10gbit brother to the BE63.. the biggets brother being the BE95) and can confirm they are amazing (granted a kit of 3 was over $1000). I had an issue where the wifi could NOT penetrate the thick concrete walls and I needed to bounce the WiFi down a long corridor. Using 3 DECOs solved the terrible wifi issue for the client with the added benefit of being able to use 6ghz as the backhaul to ensure the devices all had great speed. Oh also forgot. You can plug any device into one of the satellites via ethernet and use the DECO as your connection. Instead of using your crappy onboard wireless you can use a 2.5gbit port to the deco and use the 6ghz backhaul which means much better speeds all while providing wifi to all surrounding devices.
I got a BE63 for streaming games from my PC to my Vision Pro for sim racing. My network telemetry readout shows only 3ms delay time. It’s fantastic- oh and it updates firmware itself in the background so as 7 matures I’ll always be up to date. I recommend
lol vision pro
Not one of these, but I've received a Deco XE75 Pro two weeks ago to upgrade to 6E in one of the spots of my place, where I mostly use 6E devices at the moment. I've also been using a 3 pack of Deco M4E for 6 years at my parents house and I'm really really happy with all of them.
Nice design, absolutely rock solid performance and stability over these years, nice and easy to use phone app for management... Only con I found is that initial configuration can be a bit tricky some times while detecting devices for the first time, but once they're running, they're amazing!
Instead of three of those giant things, I'd love a set where you get two of them with a repeater unit that doubles as a basic surge protector for two wall outlets. Plug the repeater in somewhere where you still want to use the wall outlets but don't need LAN half-way between the two main units.
Bonus points if:
- the app helps you optimize which outlet will work best versus not using it at all,
- the surge protection is decent,
- it gives more than two outlets without taking up much more space,
- it had one or two fast charge USB ports,
- it has built-in battery back-up, in case you have a UPS or two keeping everything else up,
- and/or at least one outlet offered power conditioning.
me with steel reinforced concrete ceilings and sandstone walls with no fudging network drops anywhere: "Wow this does nothing for me"
Why is everything cloud based? Screw an app, give me a basic web gui. And you couldn't even get it setup without the Internet! Am I the only one thinking Data collection? Not everything needs to call home to the manufacturer.
They did it so they could hide features behind a subscription
@@pixels_per_inch The DECOs are stand alone, no subscription... controls are APP based, that is all.
Alright that's me out- screw you tplink, I'll find another solution.
I have the BE85 model (BE19000)
That one has 10 gig and 5 gig ports and it really shine when you transfer a local steam games from your pc to for sample your Handheld.
Got the last gen Decos for my parents and haven't had to troubleshoot their Internet since.
@0:22 does it really do 10 Gbps over wireless? I dont see how it could do more than 2.5 over wireless if each port is limited to 2.5 or am I missing something? Wouldn’t you be limited to the port speed?
Ethernet and WiFi aren't the same, you can be rated for a higher WiFi speed if the LAN port only supports a lower bandwidth, not to mention its 2.5 Gbps x4 assuming they all are full bandwidth meaning it'd be pushing more than 10 at full cap over ethernet anyway
You can’t connect to WAN with 10Gbps, but two devices on WiFi could talk together at more than 2.5Gbps speeds.
I bought the Deco X55’s after the last LMG video on them. I love my set so much i set my mom up with the exact same ones. I don’t need to upgrade but i wouldn’t be opposed to suggesting these too someone looking to upgrade.
Been rocking these for a few months now. Getting 1124 down and 1000 up on a 940/940 ATT fiber connection. Using MLO on a couple of iPhone 16 series and 6E on a couple MacBook Pros. The speeds are amazing. Surprisingly, my M3 Pro can connect to the MLO network, and it did so automatically instead of the 6ghz network i had set up. That is weird since it does not Wifi 7. Mine are hardwired. Its solid
0:45 Rhett and link reference
One thing you didn't mention about the Deco mesh systems, you can add other people to admin your service. Which is great for people who are tech support for older relatives. My mom's apartment has the bell internet stuff on the opposite side of her apt and it's surrounded by things like washerdryer/etc. Luckily all the rooms were wired with ethernet. Bought her a deco m4 3 pack a couple of years ago, great coverage and speeds. Bonus is I can manage it for her.
I see an app, and I'm out. These devices (from what I can tell) CANNOT be properly setup and maintained via a web browser.
This is correct, I bough the x20s a few years ago and it was not really advertised that this was the case. So yes, you sit at your desk with a computer and web browser right there and have to pick up your phone and launch an app to fully manage the devices. The X20s have a very limited web interface, basically, update firmware, reboot and look at devices connected. Any real management is App only.
me too. fuck apps. fuck online logins. i'm not touching this crap ever. either be able to work fully offline or i'm not buying it
how else would you set one up? even 20yrs ago i was using a web browser to set up my router
@@varunaX you don't understand, there's a difference between browser managed device and app controled device, main is registering to something to use your device and having proxy server at tp-link's hq or some chinese server, but with browser managed device, you can give power to device and use ethernet cable or wifi from device to connect to device, put device's ip address in browser and connect to device. one is yours and the other is highly dependant on creators will
Never expected Linus, a man, to say "I have the internet in my tubes". Maybe the lesbian allegations were correct
0:41 Did I hear a Microsoft Teams notification in the background?
I just got the deco x50 set (4 pieces)
And I gotta say, it's amazing! It does 3Gbit/s which is more than fast enough
The Deco series seems to be decent. I have installed several for customers over the past year, year and a half. We normally use the Deco S4 (3-Pack), Nice since you can mesh wirelessly or can wire mesh, OR even connect a wired device to the back on one of the nodes and get internet that way. Like a wireless Network switch
I’ve had this system for almost a year now and it’s been great!
The issue is that for half the price of a single one of these units you can now buy a UniFi Express with routing and AP features (granted only WiFi 6), which you can add WiFi 7 APs onto for ≈£/$150-200 a piece.
If you later decide you want more routing power you can get something like a cloud gateway max & the Express can turn into a normal UniFi AP.
I don’t see the point of locking into a specific wireless mesh system (with all the flaws of a wireless mesh system) for the same to slightly higher price point over a modular system like UniFi
or get the TP-Link X20 or X55 for much cheaper (~$50 per module). I don't mind being locked into a specific mesh network if it is works flawlessly, and I can just set it and forget it. I have the X20 working with 1Gb fiber and couldn't be happier.
Honestly, I would dig a status LED on the bottom. No need to turn it of (or put a sticker over it) if you have it in the bedroom, but you can still se it if there is a problem.
I bought just one and not the whole mesh system a few months ago. Expensive, but been amazing as a wifi 7 access point
I use deco myself and can only say good things about it, I have had no issues with it at all.
Decos are notoriously bad for only being configurable via the mobile app. No web interface or anything like that, so if the manufacturer removes the app from the store or removes the support for your device in an update, you're out of luck. And the fact that you need internet to set them up.
just bought a pair of DECO E4 things and they work great.
for context out internet sucks in rural Scotland but this along with a grant for better internet works a treat. obviously with better internet the Deco stuff also works better and better.
It's good yeah, it's just really damn expensive. Note that Deco units are all compatible with each other so if you have an existing Deco mesh you could just buy one instead of a 3 pack and add it to your existing mesh, probably the main unit that handles the WAN traffic since it's got four 2.5gbps ports where as even the best Wifi 6E deco has only one 2.5gbps port and rest 1gbps ports.
They're also not vlan compatible, even though they clearly have the hardware inside that could implement them since the guest wifi network setup uses a vlan (if you link your deco with a managed switch you'll need to setup a special vlan rule on your switch for the guest network). But TP-Link don't want you to be able to use these in a vlan setup because they want you to buy their enterprise grade Omada AP instead.
funnily enough (had to start with a classic linus-ism) after a previous tp-link deco sponsored video, I won a pair of their first 6E units from the giveaway. I've been super happy with them, so good chance my next upgrade will be a deco set also. thanks again btw!
SO much better than the previous version that had a single 2.5g port, which makes NO sense if you wat to do a wired backhaul.
I have one of the tplink 55 pcie card ones. Instead of my bluetooth cutting out when I walk out the door I can get up the stairs before it cuts out. Unlike my rog b550xe where I can leave the yard and walk down the back lane and it's still connected.
I got 2 and love them, upgraded from the first gen google nest. 😂Now I want a third for a detached garage but have trouble justifying the cost of a single unit. I wish I had gotten the 3 pack from the start.
Every time I hear "TP-Link," all I can think about is toilet paper held together by those little perforated links. Kinda like a Wi-Fi signal - strong at first, but eventually, you’re gonna run out! 😆 Whether it's your connection dropping or the last square disappearing, you're always left scrambling!
Damn
yup TP for the bunghole and not your network
I have a set of TP-Link Decos BE85s. And I have a desktop with Intel WiFi 7 that supports MLO (Multi-Link Output, the ability of WiFi 7 to have a single device connect over 2.4 GHz, 5 GHz, and 6 GHz all at the same time.) The BE85s also have a pair of 10Gbit Ethernet ports.
So I have one system connected via 10Gbit Ethernet, and my WiFi 7 system via WiFi MLO.
Intel's "iperf" gets me about 4 Gbps at best. Connecting to 10Gbit Ethernet on the same desktop gets me 9.8 Gbps on iperf.
But it's still WAAAY better than the Asus WiFi 6E station I had before. And the mesh works far more reliably.
Bought this 3 months ago and I'm loving it over the eero pro 5.
Finally tp-link.
I have used them for years.
Great
Looks like most people could slowly get rid of all the cables for everything but really high end network requirements.
But with these price, which will probably be kept this high artificially until Wifi comes around in 5+ years or so, many people won't.
Not to mention the lack of Wifi 7 devices out in the wild.
That aside, it seems that TP-Link has been providing quite a few nice devices in recent years, especially affordable ones in the home sector.
I live in a rented flat that turned out horrible to use power line connections, I coudln't use the existing TV cable to jury-rig data transfer, the router wifi just couldn't penetrate the thick walls, so a set of earlier TP Deco 6E saved me from having abismal connectivity.
I've been pretty happy with my old decos. If I had any reason to upgrade, I would consider it.
have a pair of deco x20, they have been great so far. the mesh works quite well and hands off devices easily. The only downsides would be: the app which is quite "dumb" but still has all the required features, probably because the main target market for decos is the avg consumer and they didn't wanna make it too complicated to the average user. Also, the web interface has rather limited functionality so gotta use the app. plus i dont appreciate the whole create an account to use this attitude that tp link has, but it does allow for remote access, so that's that. id say most deco products are a solid buy at their price points as they are considerable cheaper than many enthusiast counter part if you're trynna save a buck. infact most tp link products have been solid and reliable over the years.
I just bought a AX router upgrading my AC router, and I will likely get or skip BE until Wifi 7E/8.
My LEDs on my TP-Link WiFi 6 mesh are always off. I love that feature.
I upgraded my parents' house w/ this and its night and day from what they had before. Some of their phones & laptops actually use Wi-Fi 7 as well and for large properties like theirs it's great by the pool and way out front outside as well.
I would like to learn more about network management features of these kind of products.
Like: can you set it up behind an existing router, only as APs? Does it support multiple networks (guest; IOT)? Etc…
If it's Deco, it does indeed have to suck.
You can't isolate different SSIDs to different VLANs. If your uplink goes down, the entire network goes down. The wired backhaul basically needs its own wired network. Forget about using any existing Ethernet infrastructure. You can't lock it down so it doesn't phone home with your data, even using an external firewall.
Currently on sale for Amazon's Prime Day event for $349 for the 2-pack which makes it $299 after using the promo code. Plus, if you pay with a Prime Visa card you get 20% back which effectively brings the price down to about $240. At that price how could I say no.
We have an Eero 7 with 3 units, all wired into our 2.5Gb symmetrical fiber optic to the house service.
Still have random lags when we have over 12 devices connected in the same game etc. I can have perfect ping on my iPad, and my brother right next to me lagging out.
I can’t wait until it’s possible to get fast and affordable low latency WiFi to 30+ devices at once in your home.
"It supports matter, speaking of IoT devices" ... I'm glad it does, my antimatter IoT devices usually don't last very long!
I'm in a 2 bed house in the UK with me and my son online, he has a wired connection as does most of the house and I use wifi on my laptops. I get about 50meg on wifi, my maximum speed from my ISP as I only have fibre to the cabinet, and he gets about the same on his wired connection. If I changed to wifi 6 I'd still only get 50meg and he'd get the same on his wired connection so there's no upgrade path for me. We are supposed to be getting fibre later next year with up to 1GB speeds which is when I might invest in a better fibre router if the ISP supplied one is useless.
3 Decos all connected to a switch for a wired backhaul should be doable... but from my experience with drop outs with 2 seperate Deco deployments... a wired backhaul works best peer to peer style which is less than ideal
What’s the update on the Government discussing a ban on TP Link due to security flaws? Apparently the majority of routers are manufactured in china. So how does one purchase a secure router?
I recently bought this and it’s working well but now I’m concerned with the latest new. Your thoughts?
One note to every new Deco user, never update the firmware if it's feature update. As a Deco m5 user 2 months after purchase new firmware update caused lot of disconnection and high ping randomly. According to Tplink, disabling mimo/beamforming and roaming fixes it which defeats the purpose of mesh router. Replaced them with Omada Ax3000 and even though it's far 25dBm EAP650 is a massive upgrade without constant disconnection during teams and zoom meetings. I'm from India so WiFi 6 is the that's widely approved and available but 6e and 7 should be much better with 6G if you're near to router
Can you daisy chain the backhaul? Say you want an outside satellite out of range from the main router. you will have to go through another satellite and Daisy chain the backhaul in order to get the stellite working.
I'd pick the GL-iNet Flint 2 over a mesh network hands down, has always been very reliable and fast, with signal strength being picked up down the road. You can turn down tx power if you don't need such range.
The biggest technical issue is that the Deco's in general is that they are ONLY compatible with other Decos for Wifi Mesh! The mesh system does not work with the rest of the TP Link brands like the Archer devices! My friend brought a $600 TP Link AX11000 Router and a bunch of Decos (X90s) expecting them all to talk! They don't and won't!! Thankfully the X90 can connect to his ISP without a separate router!, Note: The Decos are really good if you are setting it up for people who aren't very internet savey and who are happy to stay in the Deco Ecosystem (I have used for the inlaws because they just work low to no faff). Just make sure you keep them away from the pointless monthly subscriptions!
at 0:40 that Teams notification while waiting a message from CIO got me
I use the old Wi-Fi 6E models in our condo that is on the second floor with businesses below us. On the third floor is our master bedroom and office... Which is where I have the main hub set up at... I then have the second one placed in the window of the second floor. Aunt across the parking lot, there is another window that leads to the detached garages shared individual garages, where the router is set up in the window. Overall, I can wirelessly connect to all of my devices set up in the garage including my garage door, Aunt, I'm able to get about 150 megs download versus our 1000 down in the house. It's not perfect but it does 95% of what I need. Whenever the time comes for me to upgrade to a Tesla or something of the sort with software updates in the garage, that may be where I run into a bit of a slowdown... But even then it's not too bad. I would still imagine you could download a software update within a 4-Hour plug-in or so.
was watching this at work, and 0:40 got me
1:22 I like the stab at Steam's downloader 😅
The one thing that annoys me with the older set of Decos that I run is that the guest network only applies to WIFI. Anyone plugging into a network socket has access to your entire network. You have the option of isolating any client. But only after they got in. The lack of optional default distrust is almost a dealbraker for me.
@0:21 - Please tell me how it can have "... speeds of over 10 Gbps", when it's ports are limited to 2.5 Gbps Ethernet???? Even if you were aggregating the three Units total capacity it could never exceed 7.5 Gbps throughput. If you can't connect to the unit with a 10 gigabit Ethernet, the throughput can'b be 10 Gbps. Even the box says "The Ultimate 2.5 Gbps Connectivity". Are you suggesting that it can aggregate all 4 ports in order to create a 10 Gbps connection?
Hey Linus, if you like wifi 7 you should look at interviews from the people working on wifi 8. It sound like it could be a legit competitor with an ethernet cable.
linus in the past: "haven't we already said that one central access point is better than many interconnected spread around the house?"
linus now: "they are awesome and they can be connected with ethernet or wirelessly to bounce access to the internet."
there's multiple ways to make your wifi better and there should be a video on that too. A lot of which are much cheaper or free. Relative to this. This is what you'd go for when you aren't satisfied with all of those other options
For what it's worth, my XE75 kit for WiFi 6E doesn't perform nearly as well when in router mode. WiFi speeds are noticeably slower, and it is less stable. It's been a while since I tried this, so perhaps firmware updates addressed this. I would like to see your basic testing process include both router and AP mode for products like this.
Does one really need an app on their phone and to connect to it from the outside Internet to set it up, though?
I hope it's possible to just set it up by connecting directly to it from one of the Ethernet ports.
As far as I know, the Decos still require the app for setup and administration. That's how my old Deco M5 set has always been. I was a bit disappointed to find that out after I bought them since a web interface would be the most versatile, but it wasn't a big enough problem for me to return them. I get why that would be a problem for some who might consider them. Despite that shortcoming, the M5 has been very good for me and are still in use.
What does suck, is paying a monthly subscription for parental control. That kills it for me, parental control should be standard with the product like googles mesh.
You dont need a wifi 7 client just a cat 5 cable. I use my PC in my office directly connected to a Deco BE63 and use its backhall to connect to the main Deco in the living room. I get 1.2gbs speeds.
Legit has me tempted to finally replace my tempermental OpenWRT bridge hobbled together using an old router to connect my desktop to the my main router.
Idk if its just me, but Linus sounds really chill in this video. Good vibes and good energy. (No im not high lol)
I'd bought the Deco XE75 system based on your guys' short circuit a couple years ago. One major flaw with TP Link's app though; there is no way to set channels! It will "automatically" find a channel when it boots, but from my prodding and a number of entries in their customer support, there is NO way to manually set what channel the AP's should be on.
Very good if you have a big enough house, small business outlet this perfect
You really want wired backhaul to get good wifi range on these type of routers. I'm going to be getting MOCA adapters to connect a two mesh devices together via cable through the wall.
Someone needs to put Wi-Fi extenders inside ceiling can lights. Put the antenna behind the LED panel in the bottom, hook up a network cable to the extender in the ceiling, and you could have PERFECT full speed 6Ghz in every room.
Xlnt. Will move to it eventually. But even my older TP-Link wifi 6 trio do a good job. And this is from a guy who remembers (barely) a 300 baud printing terminal.