Phrozen announces a small 8k resin 3d printer with 22um resolution! :O
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2021
- I am not affiliated with or getting paid for this or compensated in any way, just excited about a printer with nearly 20micron resolution. Phrozen leapfrogs everyone again :)
Let's hope it prints as good as it looks, the build quality looks far superior to the Mini 4k! 
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Love your videos, a better microphone would make it even more enjoyable. Just saying 😉
I thought the same thing. I’ll offer to edit your videos audio for free. Hit me up, pal.
I remember my first computer, 0.5 mb ram, now it could land the space shuttle, technology moving quickly, 3D printers no exception. Love the reviews Greg, looking forward to the release video.
Should have mine in January... looking forward.
Bought the Sonic mini 4k after watching your reviews and it's still going strong. Was tempted to get one of the new Elegoo models but now I'd definitely waiting to see how this turns out. Great content, keep it up :)
Same here. I bought the Sonic Mini 4K after watching his review. The Mighty 4K also!
I did not buy the Mini 4K because of the small build height and the problematic z-axis. Only now Phrozen is offering a completely new z-axis as upgrade kit. Stepper motor and lead screw, linear rail guide and slider block (now 4 screws instead of 2) and a new t-plate (aka cantilever). With this kit it is the printer that it should have been from the start.
The new Mini 8K is half a step forward because it not only has a better resolution but also dual linear rails. But it still doesn't have the ball screw from the Phrozen Shuffle 2018, which also had a full-metal case. Phrozen took several steps back with the Mini 4K just to make a half step forward. A ball screw would have been a great improvement. Being locked to ChiTuBox is also a problem for people who want to use Lychee as slicer.
@@Holztransistor You're in the minority in liking the ball screw.
@@Holztransistor Hi ! Have you found out if it's good or bad that is has only 1 led module with lens ? I reminds me firs anycubic photon which had really bad at printing small parts, because of light bleed. Now I have Phrozen with first paraled and it works perfect for me and I think it will be wrose than paraled. I really want to buy this 8k, but afraid these leds will suck.
@@DOGbackwardz A ball screw requires that all other components are also top quality and build to spec. Otherwise it can of course lead to higher load on rails and sliders because it's not as flexible as a thin lead screw. I know someone who has converted his Shuffle 2018 to 4K and he also replaced the mechanical components with even better ones, including a high torque stepper. The ball screw alone was 320 Euros. But he now can print at speeds that others will never achieve.
That's pretty awesome! However keep in mind it is not twice the resolution. It is only 0.0005" of an inch higher in resolution. 35ųm-22ųm=13ųm=0.0005". That is only half a thou! As a machinist, believe me, that is small! It is still great to see strides like this! Great channel! Keep up the great work! 👍
How about using percentage? The new printer has 37 percent smaller pixels. That's a lot.
Remember that this is a 2D measurement, so in terms of area per pixel (um^2) it's actually 2.5x smaller. (35*35)/(22*22)
@@ElectricBobcat You're right. And the volume (3rd dimension) varies because you can chose your layer strength. For 0.022 mm you can't print the perfect cube because I doubt the stepper can handle that (not the cheap Chinese stuff). I mostly print at 0.03 mm layer strength. Sometimes 0.02 mm. Even on a printer like the Saturn. The quality of the resin is what has most impact for me. Ameralabs AMD-3, TGM-7 and Nova3D Red Wax are great. Also Resione M70 and Longer 3D Deep Peach. All those are more brittle but I only want display pieces, so that's fine for me. I avoid ABS-like resins.
One voxel on the 8k has a 4th the volume of one on the 4k, or only 8.5% the volume of one voxel on the normal mini
been looking to get my first 3d printer the last few days and saw this and think im gonna wait for it and hopefully get it as my first one if i can get in on the preorders 😀
Had a feeling youd be hyped for this one, resolution increase, twin rails, high angled build plate, 4 point leveling, front facing usb and the sleeper i think is the new light source/mirror for better light passthrough reducing lightbleed on this checks every single box plus a bonus one for me, thought it might for you too!
I got the notification the other day just after getting the shipping notice on my Mega 8k. In the box in my livingroom now. Taiwan to Alaska to my living room in 4 days. And man is it good lookin.
It is good to see a grown man so excited about a printer.
Grown man? Are you insinuating 3d printers are for kids?
I'm happy they upgraded the entire z structure, looks just like the 4K Mighty, and they finally made it taller than 130mm.
love my sonic mini 4k, just pre-ordered the sonic mini 8k
IM HOOKED! LOVE YOUR CHANNEL
thanks, this is such a great hobby! :)
At that sort of resolution diffusion and diffraction will start to play a much larger role in the overall sharpness
Light source becomes more and more important, that will be one area you know I will test and pay close attention to! :)
This is an interesting generational divide. Cranking up of pixels on mono screens vs DLP at consumer prices. Itll be interesting which wins, especially on the larger print beds
Hey Greg, love your Videos. Can you share your settings on the Sonic Mini 4k using the Epax Hard resin? I keep having issues with mine but my Mono X works great.
Wonder how this one will compare to the Anycubic Ultra on Kickstarter now?
Hey, any idea when you'll receive the review unit? Thanks! 😁
I decided to forgo the 4k in favor of skipping a generation as I have seen how quickly these printers evolve, and I am glad that I did! Was looking at the Mighty but I don't need one that big and expensive. This sounds perfect as an upgrade to the original Sonic Mini! Looking forward to seeing some reviews on it! Very exciting time!
Can I use lychee with this or does it have that boar that you can only use a certain software?
Can you compare this machine to the longer 4k mono !? I heard you have it but you don't showcase it
Hey! Was wondering if you could tell me which would be the better printer? Phrozen Mighty 4K or Elegoo Saturn 4K? I can not decide between the two as they are almost identical in specs. Any advice would be greatly appreciated as I’m new to 3d printing, have been watching all your RUclips videos! Cheers
How is it 400% faster? Or what does traditional printing devices stand for as advertised? Am i missing something?
WHOOP WHOOP !!!!!!!!!
hey so what do you think of the 8K resin? i know you dont have one yet, but do you think buying 8K resin specifically will be necessary? i already put in my pre-order, so im locked in, but i just wana know what you think.
Honestly until I test it, I don't know if it's just marketing hype or it will actually print out better. I will do a review as soon as I can get my hands on some! :)
Do slicing softwares support multi milion meshes? I ve read in couple of places that model should be decimated to 500k-1M triangles..im not sure if thats enough to support 8K worth of detail (if printed on bigger scale).
Im educating myself on the subject, id appreciate any info on this. Thanks
Nice view. Looks good but im already getting the Jupiter
The Jupiter has a different target audience in terms of printing details and size of the prints. 51 microns XY resolution is not bad. I'd use it for statues. The Mini 8K is for highly detailed miniatures and busts. Maybe even good enough to print master models for resin casting.
What clearly is better on the Jupiter is the case and the fact that is has a ball screw. I'd like to have that on every printer.
But real improvements are missing. Like a tilting vat that the Prusa has. Or 3D anti aliasing which is a feature of the Prusa slicer. 3d printing companies need to be more innovative to find ways to reduce peeling forces. That would ensure to have less layer shifts and more successful prints. Because failed prints are a huge waste of time and material.
Weird they advertise 8k but it's not actually 8k resolution. It's only about 3/4 of the pixel count as 8k. Bit misleading. Closer to 6k than 8k
Maybe when it comes out it's time to upgrade the ol' Elegoo Mars
grr, can we get a mid-sized 8k printer already?!, it's either mini or Mega, give me a 8k Mighty!
Is that a puddle of pee where that GW executive was standing?
Any idea if this has a Chitu board? It has some interesting innovations but I'll pass if it does.
Most likely. And if so it will be locked to ChiTuBox.
yes it is locked to chitu...
@@evilsdexter5261 Not for me then sadly.
locked to chitubox...
yep, Chitu makes the only 8k board right now as far as I know...I don't think there are any other options yet...
Is this another Kickstarter? 😒
It is...
No, Phrozen don't do that.
It just looks like a regular preorder via their website that is modeled after popular crowdfunding platforms...
Regular pre-order.
3d Uv LED HD 10 micro to 100 micro ple sir
22 microns is not that much better than the Mini's 25 microns. I would have thought it would be even better!
The Mini 4K has 35 microns XY resolution.
@@Holztransistor Ooops! You are right! I'm failing at math today! So that's really good - 35 down to 22 microns!
Dude, do you live in a mansion?