@all things tech Would you recommend XGIMI Horizon 1080p or the EPSON EF12? Criteria are the picture quality, contrast and brightness at 100''-120''' 0.8 gain screen, moderate to low ambient light in room, with option for blinds.
Just got one for £850. An absolute bargain for this price, I've had many projectors in the past and this is the easiest, most hassle free projector I've ever seen. No lamps to replace or worry about cooling cycles, no external cables to run for sound, plenty of brightness and a huge lifetime for the light source. Plus the automatic focus and keystone functions. Projectors used to be for enthusiasts but this makes it mainstream.
Did urs come with a mount because mine didn't. I also went back to best buy had to make sure it wasn't a return or something. I made them open another one and didn't have a mount either :(
@@Trixtayt Yes mine had a mount in the box which I haven't needed. The little leg for adjusting the angle of projection is slightly awkward though, two legs on either side would have been more stable and easier to adjust to get it perfectly horizontal.
@jassonsw hmm weird it did come with a little square cardboard like for a mount but no mount :( thanks for the reply ill keep searching till I get the damn mount haha.
@@mrdavester yeah I'm loving it.. use it most nights.. I think it could do with some firmware updates to help with the crushed blacks a bit, I don't feel it's the contrast ratio more the gamma which could be tweaked. But yeah.. for the price, it's a fantastic projector. Sounds great too!
@@mrdavester It's been a few weeks now.. (it might be a few years by time you reply!) what did you think? I went for the ef-12 for the Yamaha sound system.. But other than that, yours should visually be the same as mine. What do you think? My tip is always a pitch black room for any projector. Blacks are only as good as black the wall is without light!
This projector is amazing.not so good for gaming.very bad input lag.ive had many projectors but so far this blew my mind as far as picture quality.it does support 4k input.i can even selected from my xbox settings.
Input lag was surprisingly worst than the ef11 mini I just swapped out for the ef12, but considering I don’t play competitive games and have a 77” CX for more difficult games, it’s not a problem.
Is the auto keystone that bad or did you have the projector positioned in a way that it couldn't quite auto keystone well? Also, would've been nice to see what the picture would look like in a. well lit room. Thanks!
almost forgot about this tech until LTT featured the projector. the tech allows true pixel sharpness and color, at least double the pixel count of a conventional display. however, the price is near a 4k OLED display with 120Hz and VRR. the projector could have at least supported 120Hz and HDMI 2.1 features for not much added cost
My biggest question is, will this suffer from screen burn if your playing the same game for months ? . . . I had a yaber v10 projector and played crossout for a few months . But it made movies unwatchable as the OSD for crossout was permanently burned into the screen
No projector will show a good image on a coloured wall . . Have a look at silver projector screens and youl be surprised to realise a white screen isnt actually the best projector screen
Yes but from my experience with projectors its better to leave it at maximum size and position the projector at the distance for what size screen you want . . The bigger the screen.. the dimmer the image . so theres a sweet spot distance for all projectors
This projector looks really promising but it looks so old. Not speaking about the style, which may or may not like, but how is it possible l they are still using a Mini-usb connector? If there was a usb-c with video support i would have bought immediately.
Input lag on this Projector EF12 is long like hell. It is about 120 ms, I doubt you can enjoy playing game on it. This Projector is good for everything except gaming.
Other than online gaming your brain has a way of autocorrecting the input lag . . Same as piloting an fpv racing drone at 150mph through trees . . You really dont notice the lag after a few minutes of playing . . I played borderlands 3, and crossout to death on my cheap yaber v10 projector and it was fine . . What i did find annoying is movies cus the actors lips were always slightly out of sync with the sound
I know you're trying to promote yourself & at the same time not get copyrighted, but I think it'd make more sense to do your sound quality bits with content that has original sound, and a movie like experience. Recording an old clip that was recorded in an untreated room acoustically, with another mic that's being used in an untreated room again just makes it 2x as bad. Especially if it's the same room. The reflections will just end up being even worse. Maybe using sound demos like the dolby Atmos bits that were meant to be used by consumers, and are already professionally mixed to sound like a movie experience, would be the better route for the sound quality bit in your reviews.
Hmm, that's heavy like he ain't my brother..like 5x more than Wemax M055, though this is partly laser and stronger., but also missing the battery feature that could be handy and the high bandwith interface USB3. but as a freebie in paid advertising from Epson...it of course aInt own money.
This projector is being sold as a business projector in the online shop where I can buy it from. Seeing the comments of some users, it seems that it is and not suitable for gaming at all.
Have anyone here this Projektor? All overe there in the net are realy bad reviews.(bad contrast) i have a normal Livingroom.. 4m x 4m with a window. Normay daylight. is this Projektor an option or maybe the LG HU70LS or a benq TK850? i have no idea..
This projector gets the job done pretty well. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxS9P8zTOcmQg-hH0QeUi3dspOLyYgQ6dH Bear in mind it's a mini projector but all things considered the picture quality is pretty good. The attached photo is of the projector projecting onto my white closet doors. I still have not messed with the settings but I can't wait for our first family movie night on a larger scale. If you have issues with volume not working with your firestick, go into volume settings and you will find your solution there.
@@colmranger U will receive a rainbow effect with Benq since it is just one dlp chip projector. Also throw ratio in Benq is much higher than in Epson EF 12: 1,01 vs 1,5. So u wont be able to use it in a small bedroom.
Hm, I would recommend u Epson EH-TW750. It is based on 3lcd technology so there is no rainbow effect. High brightness ~3500 ansi lumens, no android tv. Yes, Tw 750 is not a laser projector, but it’s lamp is very long-lasting ~ 10 years and its cheap unlike other manufacturers like Benq.
That amount of lag is nothing. If someone sucks at games they just suck. 100ms isn’t gonna make you a better player. Just like using a mouse. Yes it’s better for fps but it won’t magically make you a top player. So this is definitely a good buy. And if you’re in esports why look at a projector for gaming.
1000 lumens... there's no way this projector is going to work well during the day. I currently have a 2400lumen projector and I have to use it with all my lights off to get the contrast I want. Just another garbage paid advertise.
@@2Timothy2.15 any projector regardless of lamp tech is going to be pushing it's rated "ANSI" lumen number. Though I agree that lamp based projectors do dim overtime, mine only has about 1000 hours on it and is still close to it's rated 2700 lumen output. 1000 lumens isn't bright enough to get decent picture quality unless viewing content in a pitch black room. That's why most professional grade projectors (not the crap in this video) are 3000 lumens and above. 1000 lumen projectors are typically the cheap Chinese led products found on Amazon.
@@Qster83 bullshit. 1000 lumens is hardly visible in daylight. Business projectors that are designed mostly for day time use are typically more expensive because they push 3000+ lumens.
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@all things tech Would you recommend XGIMI Horizon 1080p or the EPSON EF12? Criteria are the picture quality, contrast and brightness at 100''-120''' 0.8 gain screen, moderate to low ambient light in room, with option for blinds.
Just got one for £850. An absolute bargain for this price, I've had many projectors in the past and this is the easiest, most hassle free projector I've ever seen. No lamps to replace or worry about cooling cycles, no external cables to run for sound, plenty of brightness and a huge lifetime for the light source. Plus the automatic focus and keystone functions. Projectors used to be for enthusiasts but this makes it mainstream.
Did urs come with a mount because mine didn't. I also went back to best buy had to make sure it wasn't a return or something. I made them open another one and didn't have a mount either :(
@@Trixtayt Yes mine had a mount in the box which I haven't needed. The little leg for adjusting the angle of projection is slightly awkward though, two legs on either side would have been more stable and easier to adjust to get it perfectly horizontal.
@jassonsw hmm weird it did come with a little square cardboard like for a mount but no mount :( thanks for the reply ill keep searching till I get the damn mount haha.
Anybody know how to use the Bluetooth was tryna play my ps5 with a speaker paired but wasn't working
@@Demiii_GoDdid you end ho hooking up your ps5? Thoughts?
I bought one and i was blown away with this projector,for the money its well worth it 10 out of 10 honestly its that good
just bought one myself... you convinced me - Amazon delivery tomorrow. ;)
@@tonyrking ..and?
@@mrdavester yeah I'm loving it.. use it most nights.. I think it could do with some firmware updates to help with the crushed blacks a bit, I don't feel it's the contrast ratio more the gamma which could be tweaked. But yeah.. for the price, it's a fantastic projector. Sounds great too!
@@tonyrking I got the ef-11. Going to use it tonight for the first movie, although I have tested it.
@@mrdavester It's been a few weeks now.. (it might be a few years by time you reply!) what did you think? I went for the ef-12 for the Yamaha sound system.. But other than that, yours should visually be the same as mine. What do you think? My tip is always a pitch black room for any projector. Blacks are only as good as black the wall is without light!
This projector is amazing.not so good for gaming.very bad input lag.ive had many projectors but so far this blew my mind as far as picture quality.it does support 4k input.i can even selected from my xbox settings.
Input lag was surprisingly worst than the ef11 mini I just swapped out for the ef12, but considering I don’t play competitive games and have a 77” CX for more difficult games, it’s not a problem.
Turning off some of the processing features helped with my lag a bit. Still wouldn't do any competitive gaming but games were playable after that.
@@GIJosep which features do you speak of?
How is this with an Apple TV 4k? I know this is a 1080P projector, but I'm curious if there is an improvement to image quality.
@all things tech, is it better than the xgimi halo+ ?
Is the auto keystone that bad or did you have the projector positioned in a way that it couldn't quite auto keystone well? Also, would've been nice to see what the picture would look like in a. well lit room. Thanks!
Thanks.. Is there enough brightness in total darkness for a 3.0x1.5 screen?..
almost forgot about this tech until LTT featured the projector. the tech allows true pixel sharpness and color, at least double the pixel count of a conventional display. however, the price is near a 4k OLED display with 120Hz and VRR. the projector could have at least supported 120Hz and HDMI 2.1 features for not much added cost
Important question! Does it has bluetooth out?? So that I can connect my bluetooth soundbar on it? Some say it doesn't...
The EF12 does. The EF11 does not.
Does it allow to project laptop screen wirelessly ? i'm aware it does not support netflix app. what can we do to run netflix on it?
I plugged amazon fire stick.
My 2021 top wish-list item
Just copped an EF-11 and threw the new Google TV on there👍
Sadly No 4k and No 3d. And I am Not Sure, if it have Zoom. Over 1000 Dollar is too much for that Specs.
My biggest question is, will this suffer from screen burn if your playing the same game for months ?
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I had a yaber v10 projector and played crossout for a few months
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But it made movies unwatchable as the OSD for crossout was permanently burned into the screen
can we achieve 100inch screen from 11feet distance? I want to keep it far
I achieved 100 inch with a cheap yaber v10 projector, and it was awesome....
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so i have no doubt at all this projector will do it
Epson ef12 or nebula Mars 3?
How would you compare to the Optima?
Why does it have mini usb and not usb C?
Will this projector work in any other wall colour ie other than white colour?? Eg yellow, green etc
No projector will show a good image on a coloured wall
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Have a look at silver projector screens and youl be surprised to realise a white screen isnt actually the best projector screen
How do I use the Bluetooth it won't connect to my speakers
What is the input lag and refresh rate? Do you know that. Please help me. Thanks.
Does it have digital zoom to reduce picture size?
Yes but from my experience with projectors its better to leave it at maximum size and position the projector at the distance for what size screen you want
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The bigger the screen.. the dimmer the image
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so theres a sweet spot distance for all projectors
@@goldenegg1063 agreed but somtimes I prefer watching some content smaller. Also depends on the room set up.
You should talk about the distance from the wall, its needs to be large ?
1:1
Is Netflix supported in this ?
Motorized keystone correction?
This projector looks really promising but it looks so old. Not speaking about the style, which may or may not like, but how is it possible l they are still using a Mini-usb connector? If there was a usb-c with video support i would have bought immediately.
It uses hdmi and you can cast or mirror to it as well
people complain about lag but maybe they fixed it in firmware? for HDMI anyway. I have had no problems gaming on it.
Input lag on this Projector EF12 is long like hell. It is about 120 ms, I doubt you can enjoy playing game on it. This Projector is good for everything except gaming.
Other than online gaming your brain has a way of autocorrecting the input lag
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Same as piloting an fpv racing drone at 150mph through trees
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You really dont notice the lag after a few minutes of playing
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I played borderlands 3, and crossout to death on my cheap yaber v10 projector and it was fine
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What i did find annoying is movies cus the actors lips were always slightly out of sync with the sound
This or Xgimi Horizon FHD?🤔
Is this better than xgimi horizon in picture qualiy??
Err, no probably not
@@allthingstech so you would prefer xgimi horizon(not the 4k)vs epson EF1?
@@filiptripolitis5213 I would like to know as well since I'm debating form EF 12 and Xgimi horizon
Can you add the RUclipsTV app?
I know you're trying to promote yourself & at the same time not get copyrighted, but I think it'd make more sense to do your sound quality bits with content that has original sound, and a movie like experience. Recording an old clip that was recorded in an untreated room acoustically, with another mic that's being used in an untreated room again just makes it 2x as bad. Especially if it's the same room. The reflections will just end up being even worse. Maybe using sound demos like the dolby Atmos bits that were meant to be used by consumers, and are already professionally mixed to sound like a movie experience, would be the better route for the sound quality bit in your reviews.
Can it be mounted on ceiling?
Yes, a vast majority of projectors can be mounted on ceiling
HOW MANY THIS EF12?
not bad i buy one of this. thx
Hmm, that's heavy like he ain't my brother..like 5x more than Wemax M055, though this is partly laser and stronger., but also missing the battery feature that could be handy and the high bandwith interface USB3.
but as a freebie in paid advertising from Epson...it of course aInt own money.
Did you mention the operational life span is 12k hours?
Looks great 👍
What's the latency for video games?
Noticeable.
Very very noticeable.
This projector is being sold as a business projector in the online shop where I can buy it from. Seeing the comments of some users, it seems that it is and not suitable for gaming at all.
Get the BenQ X1300 for gaming specifically. This is more of a portable movie watching projector.
anyone know if we can get auto-focus option on the EF-11?
Anyone try playing Google Play games with Epson EF12? Is it capable of linking to joystick/controller? Thanks.
Nice shot of Coinbase Pro in the background, fellow trader meself ; )
You mention HDR, but this projector doesn't support HDR, so you can't even see HDR with it :) It's just SDR projection, no matter what you feed it.
Have anyone here this Projektor? All overe there in the net are realy bad reviews.(bad contrast) i have a normal Livingroom.. 4m x 4m with a window. Normay daylight. is this Projektor an option or maybe the LG HU70LS or a benq TK850? i have no idea..
I have it and I'm returning it. The contract is medicore at best. For the price it is over hyped.
Where did that soundbar suddenly come from? It's not included.
The contrast is also worse than I expected, and the projector doesn't support USB 3.0 ?
How can I connect my ps4 to projector please
HDMI
I have one. Nice imege, big image, absense Netfix :(, Yamaha speaker is good but poor bass.
you can install Netflix. ;) [there are many ways of doing this that are not official]
This projector gets the job done pretty well. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxS9P8zTOcmQg-hH0QeUi3dspOLyYgQ6dH Bear in mind it's a mini projector but all things considered the picture quality is pretty good. The attached photo is of the projector projecting onto my white closet doors. I still have not messed with the settings but I can't wait for our first family movie night on a larger scale. If you have issues with volume not working with your firestick, go into volume settings and you will find your solution there.
Wish Netflix was available for this but it’s not. It’s fine cause I have a Firestick 4k Max and Nvidia Shield.
This would make a nice giveaway 😉
If only they gave this lens shift:(
It doesn't have lense shift but it does has 2 corner correct.so you can literally adjust every corner for a perfect image.
@@osukais1 yeah but keystone is digital, meaning you literally lose pixels and you’ll see that place still has a gray kind of color
@@Zoranurai13 yeah people don't appreciate digital keystoning is basically losing pixels by faking it.
For a couple of hundred more you can get a decent 4k projector
Like which one?
@@RevolutionCybernetic BenQ TK800M
@@colmranger U will receive a rainbow effect with Benq since it is just one dlp chip projector. Also throw ratio in Benq is much higher than in Epson EF 12: 1,01 vs 1,5. So u wont be able to use it in a small bedroom.
@@alexandr8109 cool, can you recommend a similar projector but without a built in speaker, without android tv and non portable but same picture spec?
Hm, I would recommend u Epson EH-TW750. It is based on 3lcd technology so there is no rainbow effect. High brightness ~3500 ansi lumens, no android tv. Yes, Tw 750 is not a laser projector, but it’s lamp is very long-lasting ~ 10 years and its cheap unlike other manufacturers like Benq.
Holy crap 100ms input lag, that's horrible
That amount of lag is nothing. If someone sucks at games they just suck. 100ms isn’t gonna make you a better player. Just like using a mouse. Yes it’s better for fps but it won’t magically make you a top player. So this is definitely a good buy. And if you’re in esports why look at a projector for gaming.
Exactly, you don't even notice the lag at all fr.
@@universalredguard if you stream to it then it lags pretty hard but that’s about it
@@xhappymasksalesmenx4092 I have this projector I really don't notice it.
Thanks for your input guys.
@@whatsupbudbud after an update mine is lagging very hard now...can play single player but not online fps
1000 lumens... there's no way this projector is going to work well during the day. I currently have a 2400lumen projector and I have to use it with all my lights off to get the contrast I want. Just another garbage paid advertise.
What projector do you have? If it's bulb based, you're probably only pushing 700 lumens calibrated, maybe less depending on the age of the bulb.
@@2Timothy2.15 any projector regardless of lamp tech is going to be pushing it's rated "ANSI" lumen number. Though I agree that lamp based projectors do dim overtime, mine only has about 1000 hours on it and is still close to it's rated 2700 lumen output. 1000 lumens isn't bright enough to get decent picture quality unless viewing content in a pitch black room. That's why most professional grade projectors (not the crap in this video) are 3000 lumens and above. 1000 lumen projectors are typically the cheap Chinese led products found on Amazon.
The ef 11/12 do great in the daytime, especially once calibrated. Even more so if you're using a screen.
@@Qster83 bullshit. 1000 lumens is hardly visible in daylight. Business projectors that are designed mostly for day time use are typically more expensive because they push 3000+ lumens.
@@cptairwolf 😄 if you say so bro
#allthingstech
Can i win this projector??
Can it connect with wifi speakers? Like sono?