It is great to see journalists actually buy the cars they critique. I can respect that. It sends a message to manufacturers and enthusiasts. The #SaveTheManuals crowd should do the same.
@@DonutDoctor excellent... I really hope you enjoy it. It really looks fun. The GR86 looks to be the best balanced car on the market. I picked up an IS500 and loving it each drive
All manual sports cars new sell really well and are hard to get so people do buy them, if you try to get a new camero ss 1le Manual you can’t find one sitting on a lot so you have to buy used, same with most good manual sports cars, they sell very well
You mad lads actually did it!! Fantastic! As someone who has owned several of the 1st gen, and who discovered your channel for your coverage of the first generation, I'm really excited for your coverage with the 2nd gen!
@@EverydayDriver Hi, you guys convinced me to make this big purchase!! if you don't mind me asking but what did u buy for the "accessory" section. I don't want to buy unnecessary things, so I found the comment about the paint protection helpful. Any tips is helpful. Thank you!
Took delivery of a 2022 BRZ three weeks ago. Traded in my 2018 BRZ. Loved the old one, really love the new one. I find it far easier to drive in town; the extra power down low just makes life so much simpler. I love how you don't have to hammer it to get power and you really don't have to downshift to pass on the highway (although it's still more fun.) The engine noise through the speaker lasted a day and then I unplugged it. I was looking for a car like the ones I saw growing up: TR7s, MG Midgets, small agile cars that were fun but don't put you in prison. I drove the 1st Gen BRZ and fell in love; I was waiting on the 2nd Gen for a year and ended up ordering one. I will be interested to hear your thoughts on it over time.
I've never driven but heard the platform is really good. They have always looked great and the fact that they fixed torque dip makes it a serious canyon carver. Congrats to you and I will definitely keep an eye out for one of these.
I like the speaker noise in the brz while im keeping the revs below 4000 until the car is broken in. Otherwise i think it would be hard to shift by ear as the car is much quieter than the ones im used to at low rpm. You can also set up a beep to tell you when to shift tho
If you can’t handle a high powered car without fearing of “going to prison”, then you just aren’t mature enough car wise to be able to control yourself. I’ve never been to prison. Own a 450hp+ and a 600hp+ car.
@@JacesOwnWorld it's not about self control, it's about the fact that any sort of "enthusiastic" driving in a 450 HP car or 600 HP car will very quickly get you into speeds that are waaay above the speed limit. With a lower-powered sportscar like an 86/BRZ, Miata, or S2000, is that you can drive it enthusiastically on a curvy road while still remaining at a legal limit-adjacent speed. Driving my near-stock S2000 on the Tail of the Dragon (and surrounding area roads) at the same level of enthusiasm as my 400+HP STI resulted in a far lower speed throughout; driving the STI at the slower speeds that I experienced in the S2000 was still enjoyable but to a noticeably lesser degree, since the car had so much more left in the performance envelope that it felt like a stroll instead of a jog.
I love it since it reminds me of Porsche Miami Blue, and this is essentially a modern 924 or 944. Otherwise as Zacery Hammond (what a weird way to spell that name) said, WR blue is the way : )
@@zaceryhammond1144 not mad at all. But sure, I'm upset and jealous that your name has ace in the middle lmao. It's a weird way to spell it, there's no way around that man. If your parents decided to name you that then oh well, you didn't ask for that. But lots of people now like to spell their name in dumb ways to try and be unique, which is goofy. Doesn't matter to me which it is, but it's strange regardless
Congrats Guys! It’s good to see famous car journalists buying the GR86. Thanks for the advice and hoping to see more content for us future buyers😊 We already placed a pre-order here in Australia with our dealership even though there is no definite date when the car will be launch😅 we’ll wait for your future updates on what to add when to option our purchase with the dealer. Good luck and more power👍👌
I love that you commented that enthusiasts need to go buy these cars, brand new. If you want small simple manual transmission equipped sports cars to survive, you HAVE to do it. There is no other choice. Anyone reading this who doesn't buy a new one and instead wants to wait for a used one to come on the market, you are a part of the reason the manual transmission and cars like this in general are going away. Stop talking and go do something! Buy!
I would if I could trust me my first gen would be my dayly and this would be my garage princess 😍😍 But as it sits I have a pathfinder for a winter beater and a first gen brz sport tech for my summer daily
@@dazuko8839 yeah I figured some people would take it that way, but that's not the way I intended. It's more like if you can afford to buy new, but you are the type that just refuses to buy new cars, then you are part of the problem.
@@dazuko8839 nope gas in canada is at $8.25 a us gallon.... you try justifying that purchase when you've already got the older model in pristine condition
Still blown away that this channel doesn’t have over a million followers. Definitely one of the best channels to watch for the scenery and commentary. Thanks guys
I just had an opportunity to sit in one yesterday at Cleveland auto show. I must say it is pretty accommodating for a 6’ 185lbs personality. The space on offer is tremendous, and everything feels driver focused. Also the car is really good looking once you see it in person. Congratulations on the new acquisition, hope to see it included in more adventurous road trips on the channel. Cheers!
Congrats on the purchase. Turning off the engine noise is 3-4min and 1 plug. The road noise is a bit excessive and exhaust note underwhelming so I upgraded to a Borla cat-back and it sounds like it should have from the factory. Highly recommended
I chuckle every time I hear someone mention road noise on this car. Drive first gen mr2 or ae86 for comparison! Feels like you’re skateboarding! lol. Gr86 is soft by comparison!!
This is a car that I've been looking into buying for awhile now. It will be the most I've ever spent on a car, and as someone who works from home, I could certainly justify purchasing less. The thorough explanation you give is fantastic. What's even more fantastic is the incredible amount of clearly genuine enthusiasm that you show throughout this entire video. Thank you for sharing this. Now to wait until a Premium model is available anywhere near me..
Oh man I loved this video so much. You guys are my favorite reviewers and to see this as your car purchase says a lot. To top it off getting to see you guys interacting in a different environment just being yourselves interacting as friends was a nice surprise. Looking forward to this journey!
Well done, fellas! After months and months of salivating over this thing it’s awesome to see it as a full time stable-mate. Look forward to the content.
I recently realized that chasing power has been moving me away from what made me a car enthusiast in the first place. After buying a previous gen M240i and spending a few months in it, I realized I was having _less_ fun than I did in the 228i I traded, which was itself _less_ fun than a number of light weight and slower rwd cars I've had over the years - the '87 924S with unassisted steering, an NA Miata, a 986 Boxster S, and the MGB I used to "borrow" from my sister at 15. So today I test drove a '23 BRZ, was instantly smitten, and put my name on the list. Just waiting for the right color!
I can't imagine how giddy you fellas must feel! We recently took in a 2020 Hakone 86 on trade a few months ago that I almost impulse bought. May this 86 bring you guys many years of fond memories and smiles!
Congratulations gentlemen! I was so excited when this video popped up, and that the two of you did something SOOO many car people say you should do, but is done by relatively few. Or others who say "I can't wait to pick up one of these for $x in x years." We need to buy these cars NEW! If we don't, they won't be produced anymore. And we've lost so many great sports cars as a result of that. I'm hoping to be able to order a BRZ in the next year or so. Very much looking forward to seeing how much fun you two have with the 86!
Congratulations guys! you made me think when you said "Buy these cars new so they can continue making them" something I've considered once or twice but I think in October when the GR Corolla hits I'm getting one for sure!
@Ripperooney I’ve got a few Toyota’s back in my country and one of them ( Toyota Blade ) comes with the same 3.5 litre V6 in a car the size of a Corolla hatch. Look up “Toyota Blade master G” the thing is just fast!! But I only buy the 2.4 litre inline 4 because they’re rental cars in my fleet and I don’t want people racing my cars.
Just picked up a GR86 premium in Track bRed a couple weeks back and it has surpassed my expectations! Congrats fellas on your purchase! I am excited for more content and your experience with this awesome machine!
So psyched to see you guys keeping one around! I picked up my BRZ in WRB in late November and have about 3500 miles on it. I think you guys hit the nail on the head in your initial impressions. Fake exhaust noise is annoying, but I’ll tell you in advance if you disable it, the car is VERY quiet. I’m looking at getting an HKS catback just so I can hear what it’s doing without the annoying “turn on” of the fake noise system at like 3700 rpm.
Another simple option for better sound is installing an axle back aftermarket muffler. I have a '17 BRZ, and swapped the OEM muffler for a Borla axle back. That gives plenty of growl, but does not drone at highway speeds. It was about $ 600, and the Borla bolted directly onto the existing system. Took less than an hour to do. Having an extra set of hands was helpful, but the Borla is smaller and lighter than the OEM. The Borla is high quality stainless, and comes with integrated tips that are slightly larger than OEM.
@@scottanthony3426 I'm thinking about doing something similar. Right now I have a full header back exhaust on my 2013 BRZ (still catted), and it sounds awesome when you want to hear it, but on the highway it can get a tiny bit tiring. With a GR86 I bet just an axle back or cutback and disabling the speaker would sound great
@@sketchpv3080 As an owner, it isn't THAT bad. The most artificial aspect of it isn't the quality of the sound but the way it comes in right at 3500 rpm abruptly. But my catback just got in so I'm excited to disable it lmao.
Great car. I have the 22 BRZ. I have had it about a month. It is a fun daily driver for sure. I still would not call it fast by any means. My car had less than 200 miles on it when I pulled that overly quiet exhaust off. I put on a Borla catback and disconnected that fake sound generator. Soooo much better. I plan on getting an E85 tune as soon as the come out. Possibly some forced induction down the road. I needs just a bit more power still.
So I’m an owner of a 2018 brz. I’ve now bought the 2022 86. One reason I switched. The tech gauge has a yellow warning light before the red light. I love this when I’m on the track. My 2018 brz with stage 1 tune is getting 29mpg on highway. That’s insane. But it’s 230lbs lighter too. Love to share notes as I own 2018 and 2022.
Hi from Australia. I waited 6 months for my 2012 gen 1 GT 86 in tornado grey. Now nearly 10 years later and with nearly 140,000 kms on the clock I still love driving this car and have not entertained changing it .... until now. That blue colour is gorgeous and I must admit I'm looking forward to your experiences with the gen 2.
I felt the 1st gen started feeling cheap overtime. I'm IN LOVE with this new one. However, I was one of those people getting 28mpg no matter how I drove it on the 1st gen. I think that will be the only thing I will miss.
I drive almost exclusively in sports mode on an automatic first gen and i get about 26 miles per gallon. It feels great in sports mode, so for me im not sure if I would benefit a whole lot from upgrading
Congratulations on the purchase!! What a great car. One thing I will say about the base vs Premium is in the Premium you get those excellent steering responsive headlights (SRH) 😎
Thank you for getting me deeper into consideration to buy this car additional to my ND1 Miata. Still undecided about the colour. Either white, red or your blue. Really looking forward to seeing more great content about the GR86. Keep on entertaining, I really appreciate your work which I have been following for quite some time. Cheers from one of your German 🇩🇪 viewers.
This is my new favorite channel. I really enjoy listening to you two, you are a very good tandem, you complement each other with informations and talk openly about things that interest people. Also, since I do photography in my spare time, the production is really on a fantastic level. Much better than the videos from past 3 years, let's say...And it's getting better with every new video. I started following your work last year when I asked myself should I really want to buy a Mazda Miata as a second car. You must be credited for my decision, making a road trip to the sea and back a week after I bought it, with my girlfriend as fellow traveller.:) Thank you, you are really phenomenal, just keep it up, you are doing great!
Love that you guys bought one of these!! You inspired me to buy the first gen. Can you discuss how you’re approaching the break in period and oil change intervals?
I own a Boss 302, and just sold my 987 Cayman S to make room for this! Even swap money wise. I take delivery in about 2 weeks. Manual of course. Can't wait! I also took your advice and own a Mazda 3 Turbo as my daily. You haven't steered me wrong yet.
@Rain Just ready for a change, this is my 3rd Mustang GT, 2nd in the last 8 years. I switch back to import when something piques my interest. The GR looks like it’s gonna be fun.
Awesome to see. I picked up my premium manual in halo white in January. I did have the ppf removed and had my local detailer do a full front ppf install. Other than than, like you guys. Zero buyers remorse and loving every drive in it.
I love this and congrats! I can feel the energy and excitement through the video. My very first new car was a 2021 WRX Premium I bought in December. I really really wanted the BRZ, but living in the midwest, it wasn't very practical. One day!
i like that you bought a benchmark car(perfect benchmark car for the price imo) for the future reviews and testing. congratulations. that is a beautiful color. 👌🏽✌🏽
My heart is so divided now, I used to have a 2018 BRZ and loved it, now I am thinking of buying a ‘22 MX-5, but watching these videos brings back the toyobaru feels… I truly love the philosophy of both cars!
I've been thinking about learning to really drive on a track, and was going to start with a corvette or a gt350. The more I look into it, the more I am coming to grips that while those cars can be amazing, they aren't cars to learn on. Everything I am reading is pointing to this or a Miata. After watching this, and you other videos, I think I'm going to take the journey with you guys on the GR86. Even called Mark Millar Toyota, since you gave them such a great shout out. Subscribed!
You hit the nail on the head! I learned a fair bit in a fox body (never tracked it) then got my BRZ and what a fantastic learner car! I tracked it a couple of times and got to know it so well! And while I LOVE the GT350, that would be a pretty intimidating car to have on track for your first time and you can get yourself into trouble real quick! This is a big reason why Mustangs became the RUclips joke that they are with hitting crowds. Cheap power when used and no driver experience are a bad combination.
I think you can disable the ESE ( engine sound enhancement) using carista OBD2. It's an Android app you pair with a Bluetooth OBD2. This works for GR Yaris to disable ESE. I also use carista OBD2 to change my seatbelt chime to just show a blink on my guage. Hope this helps. But the dealer can also disable that using Toyota's propriety diagnostic tool called Techstream.
Congrats on being men of your word! That's awesome! I had a job in high school and college doing the unwrapping of new cars in the detail team...there is so much plastic!
That's awesome guys! Congrats. I agree with all the points you're making in this video and I'm looking forward to many GR86 videos from you. I was between this car and the Hyundai i20 N but after a lot of research and even though the i20 N is a lot more practical, there's no question, the GR86/BRZ is the car to own. I've never driven one in real life, only in Forza 7, but I know I will love it. There's just the question of availability now, since I'm in Greece and these cars, the GR86/BRZ, are nowhere to be found. I cant even find the older models in the used market, which is weird. But nothing's going to stop me from getting one eventually. My question is: Are you going to get it tuned? The guys at FTspeed seem to suggest that Subaru is underselling the hp on this engine and that it's more powerful than advertised. So I'm wondering how much improvement there is with a tune. Cheers.
I’m super happy for your guys. Wish I was in a position to buy a brand new 86 coupé. The new car buying experience is always cool. In 2018 my wife and I purchased her C-HR brand new and then last year she got her Model Y brand new. I think they both had about 5 miles on them. All our other cars have been used. I really want this car, but it’s gonna be hard to justify to my wife with our kiddos. The only other option would be to have it as a third car. Possible, but also not possible considering our long term goals for the next few years. I really want one though.
I'm a grad student and I'd LOVE to get one. I may have to get the base model just to get it at that slightly lower price (manual of course) so I'd love to see a comparison of base and premium models in an every day scenario!
Congratulations on buying the GR86! I signed the papers for a beautiful late 2017 GT86 (yes, the 86's "1.0" version) yesterday. Taking the GT for a test drive was the best sales pitch I've ever heard, the car sold itself in less than a minute. Only when you drive the car yourself you know what all the talk is about and what the 86 feels like. This car wants to be driven and you can feel your blood pumping while driving it. 🙂
You guys are awesome and I love to see this car being featured on your channel! Your long term review series for the original FR-S sold me on that car several years ago... after seeing this come out I am having a hard time on choosing to get the new GR86 or hold onto the FR-S. Need to test drive one for my final answer!
Grats on the buy. You're going to love this one. I do, however, have some gripes, and I've learned a few things since I bought mine on black friday. I really don't like how my car came with a vortex generator. I've learned that, for my life, I need a track day set of wheels and tires, and maybe even pads. I need to change the brake fluid because I can feel the change in the brake pedal after track use. I got the noise generator turned off before my track day, and now I actually want it on, not because it sounds good, but it's the free option compared to buying a new exhaust, it's too quiet in here. There's a lot of UEL options out there, but I'm hesitant because it does move the peak torque around depending on who makes it, the tunes aren't available yet. Some catbacks are mostly direct bolt on from the previous gen, and give 2-4 horsepower, mostly negligible. What I want one for is sound, because if I had the money, I'd keep the sound generator off, and have a Perrin 3" Caback. The Borla sounds good too, but I don't know if it will turn the rear bumper into a parachute. there's no muffler in the Borla where the stock can used to be, and that acted as part of the aero to smooth air flow away from that muffler cavity. I hope they do something about that, like a diffuser or something. Lastly, I don't know if you're enforced to run a front license plate, but since I'm in California, I had to buy a front plate adapter from Subaru separately. My BRZ came with mount holes that were Japanese spec, so the holes were closer together, and larger than the hardware provided by the kit. A stop at the local Lowes to find M6-24 fasteners did the trick. You could drill through the bumper, like other dealerships shamefully have, but that will destroy such a beautiful nose. I don't feel like I'm lacking in power, but I've come to accept that I'm not a very good driver. I'll need to work on that. Oh and people need to stop trying to race me at the light. It's really annoying.
Anyone that does more than one track day a year should consider dedicated brakes and flush the brake fluid with higher temp stuff in any car. That isn’t limited to just these. Even exotics that get tracked regularly need higher temp fluid more often than not.
I currently have a Mercedes A35 AMG as my daily driver and an S2000 for my weekend/track car. I’m seriously considering changing the A35 for a GR86 when they’re available in the UK but can’t decide whether I’d miss the power too much, even though the A35 is boring to drive the effortless performance is nice to have…
We live in the Golden age of sports cars . Just look around and most car makers have something sporty and fun to drive. And, Yes! get out and buy one before electrification shocks us all into submission. Can't wait to see the mods on your new baby! Congrats.
That's the exact spec I was looking for! Markups by me were insane so I ended up just getting an ND2 Miata after selling my '13 FRS, but I look forward to the content with it!
Same here. I was on two lists for a gr86 but they hit me with the ADM news later on and i passed. I ended up getting a Fiesta ST for the time being. I would love an RF but I don't fit.
@@wesleyrice2138 I absolutely love it, it's definitely a little cramped compared to the FR-S, me being 6'3 and 270 lbs lol I daily drive the Miata and it makes every single drive feel special. The tech helps a lot too vs the FRS (blind spot monitoring, backup cam, etc), but the GR86 has pretty much the same stuff as far as I know. I never got to drive the 86 because said dealerships wouldn't let me drive unless I intended to buy afterwards (how am I supposed to know if I want it without driving it??) but in comparison to the FRS the Miata feels much more tossable and maneuverable, and the sense of speed because of the more compliant suspension is much better. The ride is softer than the FR-S, but it's definitely better suited for street driving. The FR-S definitely felt more stable in high speed corners, but the torque dip was a massive hinderance in daily driving. Regardless I loved it, and owned it for a little over a year before making the switch. For the same price without markups it's a tough decision, but it depends what you're planning on doing with it. The 86 is 100% more track focused in its suspension tuning and overall feel, and the Miata is much better suited for street driving especially on a nice day. Best of luck! You'll love whichever one you choose, it's really just a matter of what you'll be doing with it and the weather by you. I have no idea if the situation would've changed had I actually been able to test drive, but the 10k markup at the local dealers still would've left me to choose the Miata regardless. I'm considering waiting a few years or so and then seriously considering a GR86 as I'm curious how it compares not to the FRS but to the Miata now. Plus there'll be neat editions down the line I'm sure, maybe I'll snag one of those. Also a bit of a side tangent, someone my height would fit fine with the top up, but my hair gets real messed up because it touches the top. If you're bald then it'd work great even if you're tall, lol
I have a Sport trim soft top by the way, base everything with all seasons on for the chilly months. And even with the base sound system it's leagues better than the FR-S if it makes any difference for ya, it was a very pleasant surprise after picking it up.
@@EpicLakitu good info, thanks. I'm 6'1" but I must be a long torso because I hit my head in cars that some 6'3" people say are okay. I also have a thing about sitting low so I may be too harsh on headroom limited cars, but either way my plan is to autocross my Fiesta this summer and then see if it's workable to get an 86 after that.
Congrats to the purchase ;) since we know the official GR86 power figures are underrated could you please put it up against the 2.0t supra there is no such a video on YT. Wish you loads of happy miles in the blue car
been really thinking about selling my M2 and grabbing a GR86 instead. Know it sounds crazy but the M2 will fetch a nice price and a HKS supercharger slapped onto the GR86 when available would be a riot I'm sure.
New cars never made sense from a strictly financial point of view. However, the prices on used cars being ridiculous at this time really closes the gap. I hope Toyota sells a ton of these. ED is right- buy a new one. Don't pay a markup, but get a freshie that hasn't been subjected to abuse and/or neglect. Enjoy the car, guys!
Please tell me you're going to do a Z car comparison. I know the new Z has more horsepower but I'd like to know how it compares on handling, roominess and storage. As a person who's first car was a 240Z, I have to admit that I like the styling of the GR86 better than the new Z car. I know I'm probably the only one who will say that.
Omg awesome! I've been waiting for mine since early Dec. This makes me so happy, just knowing I'll get to see content of this car with you guys behind it!
Congrats! This car is AMAZING! For my wife and I this car would have been a no brainer if the new Nissan Z did not exist. For just a "little" more money the power and performance you get with the Z and the fact it also comes in a manual is hard to deny. Again, congrats on the purchase and I can't wait to see more on this car. BTW it looks stunning in that blue with those gold rims and this was an EPIC unboxing!
@@EverydayDriver I also have to say, what you guys said about supporting the manufactures who put out great performance cars really resonated with us as well along with saving the manuals which is why my wife and I scraped our money together bought a 2019 Honda Civic Type R new. Back when we were car shopping for our second car, we saw the last gen 86 and really loved the Toyota 86 Hakone Edition but with a young family we really could not justify getting something with such small back seats. Even after owning the Type R for a couple of years we are still amazed at the amount of performance and practicality you get for the money. We were able to get our car at MSRP. Now we are ready for some RWD, 6 speed manual fun now that we are almost done paying off our daily driver Toyota. The short list includes this Toyota 86, the Mazda Miata, the Mustang Eco Boost High Performance with the Handling Package and the new Z all in manuals. BTW we also got the PPF for our Toyota but we had to by a couple of PPF packages which ended up coving the whole front end of our car as well as the front portion of the hood and I believe it was warrantied for up to 3 years. Keep up the great work! On the eve of the all electric future we are seeing some amazing enthusiast's focused cars coming out right now and we are trying to get what we can before it is too late.
Epic show guys, 1 of your best episodes yet. As a guy that owns a 718 GT4 and a Cayman 981S, the GR86 (and BRZ) is on my shortlist if I ever sold the 981S. I did own a 2016 BRZ and I’m wondering if there really are any noticeable differences between how the GR86 and BRZ feel to drive and sit in?
Glad to see the passion you guys have for this car. This is not my favorite car but anyone that falls in love with driving can relate to your energy. Congrats 👍.
Just so you know, I sold my 718 to get one of these. The value for the money on the GR86 is incredible. Although the 718 is a amazing car, I was tired of paying the high maintenance and consumables costs. I have a deposit on a identical premium model GR86 in Neptune Blue, can’t wait.
Love the car congrats on the buy, quick question, how’s the car handle in the winter with snow is it usable as a every day car or is it being RWD a little much?
Todd drove his original FRS through many Utah winters and snow storms. RWD isn't a problem if you have winter tires. That first gen was incredibly fun in the snow and this is no different. There are a couple videos on that car in the snow. Nothing showing it yet on this one. Thanks for watching!
I've always wanted a 986 or 987, but at this price point for a new car. Burning question! A side by side comparison with 1st or 2nd gen boxter.1) Is it going to give me the same boxter fits like a glove interior. 2) is it gonna handle as good or better then boxter? Thanks! Love how the channel is evolving!
@@evalonious I sold my 2009 Boxster S about a month ago and just took ownership of my new GR 86 about two weeks ago. The Boxster was a PDK transmission and I had all season continentals on it it also had 19 inch wheels. The GR 86 is the premium manual transmission and I bought a second set of wheels with Michelin winter tires so I can drive here year-round in Michigan. One of my main reasons for making the switch was for a greater comfort inside the car. I am 6 foot one and 170 pounds and I appreciate a little more legroom and being able to recline the seats also having space behind the seats for gear that one can easily reach and a good sized cupholder in the door. Terms of handling the cars are quite different the boxer is glued to the pavement and I never did break it loose on a curve. The GR 86 is easy to get sliding if that’s what you want to do especially in the winter. Comparing their steering the GR 86 is sharper especially on center very quick steering the Porsche was a bit more relaxed actually. I’m only at about 700 miles on the GR and have just today driven it over 4000 RPM for the first time. Obviously the big torque is 4000 up which was great to experience finally. The car is plenty fast for me not quite the same as the Porsche but just fine.
I'm really mixed with a 981 Cayman Base 2.7 or a loaded GR86. Both the same price, same options, both drivers focused cars. Maybe your first review should be them head to head, because I'm for sure going to have to do it in person to make the choice.
I am literally in the exact same boat as you. But they aren't the same price anymore. The Cayman is more in the low-high 40's for anything under 60k miles.
@@ptsrs yeah the GR86 would be probably a $5,000 savings, but I'd imagine after dealer markups and fees it might get very close to 40k. Especially where I live and them being so popular.
Great color choice! I still havent seen a 2nd gen brz/gr86 in person. Heck, I've still never seen a 1st gen 86 in person. See plenty of 1st gen frs/brz's near me though. I'm low key jealous, but I just got a 17 FiST a year ago so I'm going to enjoy it for a bit. Maybe a 2nd gen GR86 in the future.
I just ordered a loaded premium red 86 today. It will probably be a 2023 by time it gets built. You guys got me all jazzed now, and thanks for the paint protection tip.
AWESOME, guys!!! Jeff C. from Olympia here. You two did a car debate for me (Episode 647), and recommended, among other things, the Alpha Guilia 2.0T (w/Performance Package, of course!), and the JCW Mini. After watching this video, I just added the '22 GR86. DAMMIT! This is going to be a VERY difficult decision to make!! The fact that you loved the GR86 so much that you went and bought the dam'd thing speaks volumes. Wifey, aka. the MOF, is going to do some serious eye-rolling! I can hear it now: "You're 56, and want to buy a sports car?! Well, at least it's relatively affordable..." Oh, and I also just added the Elantra N to the list. I'm hopeless!
Nice car, congratulations! In your process of selecting this car and trim, did you consider and compare the Subaru BRZ? I would be interested to hear you guys on this and see the differences if any between (beside the obvious ducktail). Is one a better «deal» or different enough to pick depending on your preference in the tuning of it from factory?
Congratulations! 😁 We are so happy for you guys! Hope we can also get that car for us! 😁😁😁 with love from the Philippines! By the way we are also an automotive youtube channel 😁
Really makes you wonder why anyone would go for the Supra honestly. Love the color. Front end styling reminds me of the gen 5 Viper or late model 370Z Nismo.
Okay, this was great, taking us with you on the unwrapping tour, seeing two grown up guys being as happy as two little boys in a toy shop. I'm very jealous right now, it's great, that colour pops...
Congrats on the 86. I had been thinking about buying one in that color. It looks fantastic. It's actually slightly darker and more rich in person. It looks slightly washed out on the video. And, yes, the dealer knows how to customize settings. We do it all the time, whether it's the Prius reverse buzzer or setting your door locks to all unlock with one press of the key fob. There are quite a few things you can change.
Thanks for putting gold wheels on it so I could see what it would look like! I was thinking of ordering the exact same car and put Enkei RPF1 in gold on it.
Yes... The dealer can turn it off. I requested to have my piped in audio shut off prior to delivery, and they did. My gr86 was the first available in my area, and it was no problem. You will adjust to the blinkers. I love my car after two months. I do agree with the clear wrap. I had the full hood done rather than the factory wrap.
It is great to see journalists actually buy the cars they critique. I can respect that. It sends a message to manufacturers and enthusiasts.
The #SaveTheManuals crowd should do the same.
@@DonutDoctor excellent... I really hope you enjoy it. It really looks fun. The GR86 looks to be the best balanced car on the market.
I picked up an IS500 and loving it each drive
@@DonutDoctor got mine yesterday!! yay!
All manual sports cars new sell really well and are hard to get so people do buy them, if you try to get a new camero ss 1le Manual you can’t find one sitting on a lot so you have to buy used, same with most good manual sports cars, they sell very well
Literally the best piece of machine ever created for a daily crusher. Definitely worth the price for a brand new. Always support the brand. Top notch.
You mad lads actually did it!! Fantastic!
As someone who has owned several of the 1st gen, and who discovered your channel for your coverage of the first generation, I'm really excited for your coverage with the 2nd gen!
Very glad to have you with us. SOOOOoooo much to come.
@@EverydayDriver Can you cover why you chose the Toyota over the Subaru BRZ?
@@Truehoon bump
Lab rats?
@@EverydayDriver Hi, you guys convinced me to make this big purchase!! if you don't mind me asking but what did u buy for the "accessory" section. I don't want to buy unnecessary things, so I found the comment about the paint protection helpful. Any tips is helpful. Thank you!
Took delivery of a 2022 BRZ three weeks ago. Traded in my 2018 BRZ. Loved the old one, really love the new one. I find it far easier to drive in town; the extra power down low just makes life so much simpler. I love how you don't have to hammer it to get power and you really don't have to downshift to pass on the highway (although it's still more fun.) The engine noise through the speaker lasted a day and then I unplugged it. I was looking for a car like the ones I saw growing up: TR7s, MG Midgets, small agile cars that were fun but don't put you in prison. I drove the 1st Gen BRZ and fell in love; I was waiting on the 2nd Gen for a year and ended up ordering one. I will be interested to hear your thoughts on it over time.
I've never driven but heard the platform is really good. They have always looked great and the fact that they fixed torque dip makes it a serious canyon carver. Congrats to you and I will definitely keep an eye out for one of these.
Haha. Couldn’t trade my 2018. Have both. Drive either one before the 911.
I like the speaker noise in the brz while im keeping the revs below 4000 until the car is broken in. Otherwise i think it would be hard to shift by ear as the car is much quieter than the ones im used to at low rpm. You can also set up a beep to tell you when to shift tho
If you can’t handle a high powered car without fearing of “going to prison”, then you just aren’t mature enough car wise to be able to control yourself. I’ve never been to prison. Own a 450hp+ and a 600hp+ car.
@@JacesOwnWorld it's not about self control, it's about the fact that any sort of "enthusiastic" driving in a 450 HP car or 600 HP car will very quickly get you into speeds that are waaay above the speed limit. With a lower-powered sportscar like an 86/BRZ, Miata, or S2000, is that you can drive it enthusiastically on a curvy road while still remaining at a legal limit-adjacent speed. Driving my near-stock S2000 on the Tail of the Dragon (and surrounding area roads) at the same level of enthusiasm as my 400+HP STI resulted in a far lower speed throughout; driving the STI at the slower speeds that I experienced in the S2000 was still enjoyable but to a noticeably lesser degree, since the car had so much more left in the performance envelope that it felt like a stroll instead of a jog.
I'm happy for you guys and excited to see what you do with an owned GR86! The Neptune Blue is my favorite color either twin is offered in for 2022.
Na na na Subaru world rally blue just hits different when it’s perfectly polished and under street lights
I love it since it reminds me of Porsche Miami Blue, and this is essentially a modern 924 or 944. Otherwise as Zacery Hammond (what a weird way to spell that name) said, WR blue is the way : )
@@jacobl6714 you mad my name is spelled so it has ace in the middle ? 🤷♂️😂
@@zaceryhammond1144 not mad at all. But sure, I'm upset and jealous that your name has ace in the middle lmao. It's a weird way to spell it, there's no way around that man.
If your parents decided to name you that then oh well, you didn't ask for that. But lots of people now like to spell their name in dumb ways to try and be unique, which is goofy. Doesn't matter to me which it is, but it's strange regardless
Congrats Guys! It’s good to see famous car journalists buying the GR86. Thanks for the advice and hoping to see more content for us future buyers😊 We already placed a pre-order here in Australia with our dealership even though there is no definite date when the car will be launch😅 we’ll wait for your future updates on what to add when to option our purchase with the dealer. Good luck and more power👍👌
I love that you commented that enthusiasts need to go buy these cars, brand new. If you want small simple manual transmission equipped sports cars to survive, you HAVE to do it. There is no other choice. Anyone reading this who doesn't buy a new one and instead wants to wait for a used one to come on the market, you are a part of the reason the manual transmission and cars like this in general are going away. Stop talking and go do something! Buy!
I would if I could trust me my first gen would be my dayly and this would be my garage princess 😍😍 But as it sits I have a pathfinder for a winter beater and a first gen brz sport tech for my summer daily
or you just can't afford a new one lol
@@dazuko8839 yeah I figured some people would take it that way, but that's not the way I intended. It's more like if you can afford to buy new, but you are the type that just refuses to buy new cars, then you are part of the problem.
@@dazuko8839 nope gas in canada is at $8.25 a us gallon.... you try justifying that purchase when you've already got the older model in pristine condition
@@zaceryhammond1144 you guys should be less nice, as start protesting your gas tax.
Still blown away that this channel doesn’t have over a million followers. Definitely one of the best channels to watch for the scenery and commentary. Thanks guys
Very glad to have you with us. Thank you!
Wow that color makes it look like a baby Porsche! Must look even better in person, great work boys.
I just had an opportunity to sit in one yesterday at Cleveland auto show. I must say it is pretty accommodating for a 6’ 185lbs personality. The space on offer is tremendous, and everything feels driver focused. Also the car is really good looking once you see it in person. Congratulations on the new acquisition, hope to see it included in more adventurous road trips on the channel. Cheers!
Congrats on the purchase. Turning off the engine noise is 3-4min and 1 plug.
The road noise is a bit excessive and exhaust note underwhelming so I upgraded to a Borla cat-back and it sounds like it should have from the factory. Highly recommended
Borla hasn't released the 2022 version yet. Unless you are driving the previous generation.
@@Mk5mango same model for 2022, shop said it fit perfectly. Search RUclips for 2022 BRZ Borla
@@Mk5mango 1st gen catbacks fit the 2nd gen.
I chuckle every time I hear someone mention road noise on this car. Drive first gen mr2 or ae86 for comparison! Feels like you’re skateboarding! lol. Gr86 is soft by comparison!!
@@jonasbaine3538 It's not like we don't remember the 90s. It's still loud by modern standards.
I *don't* drive an e30 for a reason.
This is a car that I've been looking into buying for awhile now. It will be the most I've ever spent on a car, and as someone who works from home, I could certainly justify purchasing less. The thorough explanation you give is fantastic. What's even more fantastic is the incredible amount of clearly genuine enthusiasm that you show throughout this entire video. Thank you for sharing this. Now to wait until a Premium model is available anywhere near me..
Congratulations gentleman! It's been a long road but you've just built a car show successful enough to buy a brand new car for the show. Well done.
Oh man I loved this video so much. You guys are my favorite reviewers and to see this as your car purchase says a lot.
To top it off getting to see you guys interacting in a different environment just being yourselves interacting as friends was a nice surprise. Looking forward to this journey!
Glad to have you with us and enjoying what we do.
Well done, fellas! After months and months of salivating over this thing it’s awesome to see it as a full time stable-mate. Look forward to the content.
As an NDRF owner, This is SUCH an upgrade from the 1st gen. There's no way I wouldn't be trying to get one.
Holy crap, that color combination with the gold wheels is amazing. It's a very good looking car.
I recently realized that chasing power has been moving me away from what made me a car enthusiast in the first place. After buying a previous gen M240i and spending a few months in it, I realized I was having _less_ fun than I did in the 228i I traded, which was itself _less_ fun than a number of light weight and slower rwd cars I've had over the years - the '87 924S with unassisted steering, an NA Miata, a 986 Boxster S, and the MGB I used to "borrow" from my sister at 15. So today I test drove a '23 BRZ, was instantly smitten, and put my name on the list. Just waiting for the right color!
dude im going to chase power in my 86, just gotta pay it off
I can't imagine how giddy you fellas must feel! We recently took in a 2020 Hakone 86 on trade a few months ago that I almost impulse bought. May this 86 bring you guys many years of fond memories and smiles!
The markup has been insane on those, like 37k with 15k miles
@@smithsfan425 We gave around 28k for it with 17k miles and ended up flipping it for close to 38k OTD
@@MagnumOpos fuckin crazy
@@MagnumOpos Good lord! That’s absurd.😂
Congratulations gentlemen! I was so excited when this video popped up, and that the two of you did something SOOO many car people say you should do, but is done by relatively few. Or others who say "I can't wait to pick up one of these for $x in x years." We need to buy these cars NEW! If we don't, they won't be produced anymore. And we've lost so many great sports cars as a result of that. I'm hoping to be able to order a BRZ in the next year or so. Very much looking forward to seeing how much fun you two have with the 86!
Congratulations guys! you made me think when you said "Buy these cars new so they can continue making them" something I've considered once or twice but I think in October when the GR Corolla hits I'm getting one for sure!
@Ripperooney Left to be seen but I don’t think it’ll be 3 cylinder.
@Ripperooney I’ve got a few Toyota’s back in my country and one of them ( Toyota Blade ) comes with the same 3.5 litre V6 in a car the size of a Corolla hatch. Look up “Toyota Blade master G” the thing is just fast!! But I only buy the 2.4 litre inline 4 because they’re rental cars in my fleet and I don’t want people racing my cars.
@Ripperooney well, the GR Yaris isn’t in the USA, so there won’t be much of a comparison to compare against.
Just picked up a GR86 premium in Track bRed a couple weeks back and it has surpassed my expectations! Congrats fellas on your purchase! I am excited for more content and your experience with this awesome machine!
just picked up mine
So psyched to see you guys keeping one around! I picked up my BRZ in WRB in late November and have about 3500 miles on it. I think you guys hit the nail on the head in your initial impressions.
Fake exhaust noise is annoying, but I’ll tell you in advance if you disable it, the car is VERY quiet. I’m looking at getting an HKS catback just so I can hear what it’s doing without the annoying “turn on” of the fake noise system at like 3700 rpm.
Another simple option for better sound is installing an axle back aftermarket muffler. I have a '17 BRZ, and swapped the OEM muffler for a Borla axle back. That gives plenty of growl, but does not drone at highway speeds. It was about $ 600, and the Borla bolted directly onto the existing system. Took less than an hour to do. Having an extra set of hands was helpful, but the Borla is smaller and lighter than the OEM. The Borla is high quality stainless, and comes with integrated tips that are slightly larger than OEM.
@@scottanthony3426 I'm thinking about doing something similar. Right now I have a full header back exhaust on my 2013 BRZ (still catted), and it sounds awesome when you want to hear it, but on the highway it can get a tiny bit tiring. With a GR86 I bet just an axle back or cutback and disabling the speaker would sound great
Toyota should have just used a sound tube like the previous gen. It sounded good and wasn’t excessively loud. Best of all, it wasn’t fake.
@@sketchpv3080 As an owner, it isn't THAT bad. The most artificial aspect of it isn't the quality of the sound but the way it comes in right at 3500 rpm abruptly. But my catback just got in so I'm excited to disable it lmao.
Great car. I have the 22 BRZ. I have had it about a month. It is a fun daily driver for sure. I still would not call it fast by any means. My car had less than 200 miles on it when I pulled that overly quiet exhaust off. I put on a Borla catback and disconnected that fake sound generator. Soooo much better. I plan on getting an E85 tune as soon as the come out. Possibly some forced induction down the road. I needs just a bit more power still.
Congrats guys! This is awesome!! I couldn't help but smile through this entire video.
So I’m an owner of a 2018 brz. I’ve now bought the 2022 86. One reason I switched. The tech gauge has a yellow warning light before the red light. I love this when I’m on the track. My 2018 brz with stage 1 tune is getting 29mpg on highway. That’s insane. But it’s 230lbs lighter too. Love to share notes as I own 2018 and 2022.
Super excited for what’s to come and congrats on the new car! My absolute favorite color for this gen, and the wheel color combo is quite nice 😇
Hi from Australia. I waited 6 months for my 2012 gen 1 GT 86 in tornado grey. Now nearly 10 years later and with nearly 140,000 kms on the clock I still love driving this car and have not entertained changing it .... until now. That blue colour is gorgeous and I must admit I'm looking forward to your experiences with the gen 2.
Look forward to seeing these on Australian roads. Later this year, apparently
I felt the 1st gen started feeling cheap overtime. I'm IN LOVE with this new one. However, I was one of those people getting 28mpg no matter how I drove it on the 1st gen. I think that will be the only thing I will miss.
The new gen has reported over 30mpg highway unlike what the epa rated it
I drive almost exclusively in sports mode on an automatic first gen and i get about 26 miles per gallon. It feels great in sports mode, so for me im not sure if I would benefit a whole lot from upgrading
My new favorite car channel AND car. I’ve been creeping on 996s, Miata’s, and boosters for months but a new GR86 seems to be the answer!
Bought our 2021 RAV4 from Mark Miller Toyota and it was the best dealer experience I’ve ever had!!
Congratulations on the purchase!! What a great car. One thing I will say about the base vs Premium is in the Premium you get those excellent steering responsive headlights (SRH) 😎
Thank you for getting me deeper into consideration to buy this car additional to my ND1 Miata. Still undecided about the colour. Either white, red or your blue. Really looking forward to seeing more great content about the GR86. Keep on entertaining, I really appreciate your work which I have been following for quite some time. Cheers from one of your German 🇩🇪 viewers.
Twinsies!! I’m coming from the exact same place . No interest in getting rid of the ND1, but this seems like a fun counterpoint to add to the stable .
@@pushslice Good to know that I am not alone with the not completely reasonable idea 🤪
This is my new favorite channel.
I really enjoy listening to you two, you are a very good tandem, you complement each other with informations and talk openly about things that interest people.
Also, since I do photography in my spare time, the production is really on a fantastic level.
Much better than the videos from past 3 years, let's say...And it's getting better with every new video.
I started following your work last year when I asked myself should I really want to buy a Mazda Miata as a second car. You must be credited for my decision, making a road trip to the sea and back a week after I bought it, with my girlfriend as fellow traveller.:)
Thank you, you are really phenomenal, just keep it up, you are doing great!
Glad to have you with us, subscribed, and enjoying what we do. Thanks for watching!
Love that you guys bought one of these!! You inspired me to buy the first gen. Can you discuss how you’re approaching the break in period and oil change intervals?
I'd like to know too
Same
I own a Boss 302, and just sold my 987 Cayman S to make room for this! Even swap money wise. I take delivery in about 2 weeks. Manual of course. Can't wait! I also took your advice and own a Mazda 3 Turbo as my daily. You haven't steered me wrong yet.
We're thrilled to have been helpful to you in your car selections. We hope you love your GR86 - and expect you will! Thanks for watching!
Hell yea! Congrats guys looking forward to long term reviews
I’m trading in for the premium model. It’s a must have. Looking forward to seeing what you guys do to the car in future videos. Love the gold wheels.
@Rain Mustang GT
@Rain Just ready for a change, this is my 3rd Mustang GT, 2nd in the last 8 years. I switch back to import when something piques my interest. The GR looks like it’s gonna be fun.
@Rain Cheers to cool ass cars!! 👍👊
I own a 2013 FR-S and it is still fantastic and fun nine years later!
Awesome to see. I picked up my premium manual in halo white in January. I did have the ppf removed and had my local detailer do a full front ppf install. Other than than, like you guys. Zero buyers remorse and loving every drive in it.
6 speed? All I've seen are automatic
I love this and congrats! I can feel the energy and excitement through the video. My very first new car was a 2021 WRX Premium I bought in December. I really really wanted the BRZ, but living in the midwest, it wasn't very practical. One day!
i like that you bought a benchmark car(perfect benchmark car for the price imo) for the future reviews and testing. congratulations. that is a beautiful color. 👌🏽✌🏽
That color looks AWESOME! That’s exactly what I’d order if I got one!
My heart is so divided now, I used to have a 2018 BRZ and loved it, now I am thinking of buying a ‘22 MX-5, but watching these videos brings back the toyobaru feels… I truly love the philosophy of both cars!
I've been thinking about learning to really drive on a track, and was going to start with a corvette or a gt350. The more I look into it, the more I am coming to grips that while those cars can be amazing, they aren't cars to learn on. Everything I am reading is pointing to this or a Miata. After watching this, and you other videos, I think I'm going to take the journey with you guys on the GR86. Even called Mark Millar Toyota, since you gave them such a great shout out. Subscribed!
You hit the nail on the head! I learned a fair bit in a fox body (never tracked it) then got my BRZ and what a fantastic learner car! I tracked it a couple of times and got to know it so well! And while I LOVE the GT350, that would be a pretty intimidating car to have on track for your first time and you can get yourself into trouble real quick! This is a big reason why Mustangs became the RUclips joke that they are with hitting crowds. Cheap power when used and no driver experience are a bad combination.
...good thinking...those cars aren't "starting points" for limit driving...
Congratulations guys! btw i am so like Paul with the binder putting all the paperwork together! lol
I think you can disable the ESE ( engine sound enhancement) using carista OBD2. It's an Android app you pair with a Bluetooth OBD2. This works for GR Yaris to disable ESE. I also use carista OBD2 to change my seatbelt chime to just show a blink on my guage. Hope this helps. But the dealer can also disable that using Toyota's propriety diagnostic tool called Techstream.
I agree! Get the Carista obd2 and a month subscription and change a bunch of features, good call op
Congrats on being men of your word! That's awesome!
I had a job in high school and college doing the unwrapping of new cars in the detail team...there is so much plastic!
That's awesome guys! Congrats. I agree with all the points you're making in this video and I'm looking forward to many GR86 videos from you.
I was between this car and the Hyundai i20 N but after a lot of research and even though the i20 N is a lot more practical, there's no question, the GR86/BRZ is the car to own. I've never driven one in real life, only in Forza 7, but I know I will love it. There's just the question of availability now, since I'm in Greece and these cars, the GR86/BRZ, are nowhere to be found. I cant even find the older models in the used market, which is weird. But nothing's going to stop me from getting one eventually.
My question is: Are you going to get it tuned? The guys at FTspeed seem to suggest that Subaru is underselling the hp on this engine and that it's more powerful than advertised. So I'm wondering how much improvement there is with a tune.
Cheers.
I’m super happy for your guys. Wish I was in a position to buy a brand new 86 coupé. The new car buying experience is always cool. In 2018 my wife and I purchased her C-HR brand new and then last year she got her Model Y brand new. I think they both had about 5 miles on them. All our other cars have been used. I really want this car, but it’s gonna be hard to justify to my wife with our kiddos. The only other option would be to have it as a third car. Possible, but also not possible considering our long term goals for the next few years. I really want one though.
I'm a grad student and I'd LOVE to get one. I may have to get the base model just to get it at that slightly lower price (manual of course) so I'd love to see a comparison of base and premium models in an every day scenario!
Congratulations on buying the GR86! I signed the papers for a beautiful late 2017 GT86 (yes, the 86's "1.0" version) yesterday. Taking the GT for a test drive was the best sales pitch I've ever heard, the car sold itself in less than a minute. Only when you drive the car yourself you know what all the talk is about and what the 86 feels like. This car wants to be driven and you can feel your blood pumping while driving it. 🙂
You guys are awesome and I love to see this car being featured on your channel!
Your long term review series for the original FR-S sold me on that car several years ago... after seeing this come out I am having a hard time on choosing to get the new GR86 or hold onto the FR-S. Need to test drive one for my final answer!
Grats on the buy. You're going to love this one. I do, however, have some gripes, and I've learned a few things since I bought mine on black friday. I really don't like how my car came with a vortex generator. I've learned that, for my life, I need a track day set of wheels and tires, and maybe even pads. I need to change the brake fluid because I can feel the change in the brake pedal after track use. I got the noise generator turned off before my track day, and now I actually want it on, not because it sounds good, but it's the free option compared to buying a new exhaust, it's too quiet in here. There's a lot of UEL options out there, but I'm hesitant because it does move the peak torque around depending on who makes it, the tunes aren't available yet. Some catbacks are mostly direct bolt on from the previous gen, and give 2-4 horsepower, mostly negligible. What I want one for is sound, because if I had the money, I'd keep the sound generator off, and have a Perrin 3" Caback. The Borla sounds good too, but I don't know if it will turn the rear bumper into a parachute. there's no muffler in the Borla where the stock can used to be, and that acted as part of the aero to smooth air flow away from that muffler cavity. I hope they do something about that, like a diffuser or something. Lastly, I don't know if you're enforced to run a front license plate, but since I'm in California, I had to buy a front plate adapter from Subaru separately. My BRZ came with mount holes that were Japanese spec, so the holes were closer together, and larger than the hardware provided by the kit. A stop at the local Lowes to find M6-24 fasteners did the trick. You could drill through the bumper, like other dealerships shamefully have, but that will destroy such a beautiful nose. I don't feel like I'm lacking in power, but I've come to accept that I'm not a very good driver. I'll need to work on that. Oh and people need to stop trying to race me at the light. It's really annoying.
Anyone that does more than one track day a year should consider dedicated brakes and flush the brake fluid with higher temp stuff in any car. That isn’t limited to just these. Even exotics that get tracked regularly need higher temp fluid more often than not.
Well at least you know that you aren’t going to be beating anyone in that slow a.s car when someone pulls up to race 🤣
@@JacesOwnWorld I don't do that stupid shit.
I currently have a Mercedes A35 AMG as my daily driver and an S2000 for my weekend/track car. I’m seriously considering changing the A35 for a GR86 when they’re available in the UK but can’t decide whether I’d miss the power too much, even though the A35 is boring to drive the effortless performance is nice to have…
Bought this car (same colour) last week. I had the 2017 Toyota 86 previously. This is SO MUCH MORE car. You guys do great reviews, btw.
Amazing content. Love the purchase you guys made which signals to Toyota that we’re willing to keep enthusiast cars alive!
We live in the Golden age of sports cars . Just look around and most car makers have something sporty and fun to drive. And, Yes! get out and buy one before electrification shocks us all into submission. Can't wait to see the mods on your new baby! Congrats.
That's the exact spec I was looking for! Markups by me were insane so I ended up just getting an ND2 Miata after selling my '13 FRS, but I look forward to the content with it!
how's your ND2 treating you?? I'm between the two. Coming from '17 manual civic
Same here. I was on two lists for a gr86 but they hit me with the ADM news later on and i passed. I ended up getting a Fiesta ST for the time being. I would love an RF but I don't fit.
@@wesleyrice2138 I absolutely love it, it's definitely a little cramped compared to the FR-S, me being 6'3 and 270 lbs lol
I daily drive the Miata and it makes every single drive feel special. The tech helps a lot too vs the FRS (blind spot monitoring, backup cam, etc), but the GR86 has pretty much the same stuff as far as I know.
I never got to drive the 86 because said dealerships wouldn't let me drive unless I intended to buy afterwards (how am I supposed to know if I want it without driving it??) but in comparison to the FRS the Miata feels much more tossable and maneuverable, and the sense of speed because of the more compliant suspension is much better. The ride is softer than the FR-S, but it's definitely better suited for street driving. The FR-S definitely felt more stable in high speed corners, but the torque dip was a massive hinderance in daily driving. Regardless I loved it, and owned it for a little over a year before making the switch.
For the same price without markups it's a tough decision, but it depends what you're planning on doing with it. The 86 is 100% more track focused in its suspension tuning and overall feel, and the Miata is much better suited for street driving especially on a nice day.
Best of luck! You'll love whichever one you choose, it's really just a matter of what you'll be doing with it and the weather by you.
I have no idea if the situation would've changed had I actually been able to test drive, but the 10k markup at the local dealers still would've left me to choose the Miata regardless. I'm considering waiting a few years or so and then seriously considering a GR86 as I'm curious how it compares not to the FRS but to the Miata now. Plus there'll be neat editions down the line I'm sure, maybe I'll snag one of those.
Also a bit of a side tangent, someone my height would fit fine with the top up, but my hair gets real messed up because it touches the top. If you're bald then it'd work great even if you're tall, lol
I have a Sport trim soft top by the way, base everything with all seasons on for the chilly months. And even with the base sound system it's leagues better than the FR-S if it makes any difference for ya, it was a very pleasant surprise after picking it up.
@@EpicLakitu good info, thanks. I'm 6'1" but I must be a long torso because I hit my head in cars that some 6'3" people say are okay. I also have a thing about sitting low so I may be too harsh on headroom limited cars, but either way my plan is to autocross my Fiesta this summer and then see if it's workable to get an 86 after that.
Congrats to the purchase ;) since we know the official GR86 power figures are underrated could you please put it up against the 2.0t supra there is no such a video on YT. Wish you loads of happy miles in the blue car
Congrats! I'm getting tired of fussy BMW's and their lack of steering feel - this new 86 & it's 'back-to-basics' approach is very intriguing.
So glad you swapped out the black wheels for gold. Looks awesome 👌🏼 😍😍😍
been really thinking about selling my M2 and grabbing a GR86 instead. Know it sounds crazy but the M2 will fetch a nice price and a HKS supercharger slapped onto the GR86 when available would be a riot I'm sure.
M2 prices will probably never be higher than they are right now too.
Do iiiit.
Supercharged 86 would be an absolute blast!
I would sell that m2 just for the fact its a german car, $$$$$ the older they get
my suggestion is .. stick to the m2. 2 different kind of sport cars
O man, like I am watching a kid to get a new toy. So much genuine kid enthusiasm. I am really happy for you. Enjoy it.
New cars never made sense from a strictly financial point of view. However, the prices on used cars being ridiculous at this time really closes the gap. I hope Toyota sells a ton of these. ED is right- buy a new one. Don't pay a markup, but get a freshie that hasn't been subjected to abuse and/or neglect. Enjoy the car, guys!
I'm a car enthusiast from Utah and I'm just soooo happy to have found this channel!
Glad to have you with us!
Please tell me you're going to do a Z car comparison. I know the new Z has more horsepower but I'd like to know how it compares on handling, roominess and storage. As a person who's first car was a 240Z, I have to admit that I like the styling of the GR86 better than the new Z car. I know I'm probably the only one who will say that.
Omg awesome!
I've been waiting for mine since early Dec.
This makes me so happy, just knowing I'll get to see content of this car with you guys behind it!
Too add more info, I'm in my 40s, have 2 young kids and this will be my first car I've ever purchased brand new!
Bravo! Congrats in advance. We hope it arrives soon and you love it. Thanks for watching!
Would love to see a comparison pitting the GR86 against different Cayman generations.
Congrats! This car is AMAZING! For my wife and I this car would have been a no brainer if the new Nissan Z did not exist. For just a "little" more money the power and performance you get with the Z and the fact it also comes in a manual is hard to deny. Again, congrats on the purchase and I can't wait to see more on this car. BTW it looks stunning in that blue with those gold rims and this was an EPIC unboxing!
Glad you enjoy this! We're very curious about the upcoming Z and look forward to putting it with this 86. Thanks for watching!
@@EverydayDriver I also have to say, what you guys said about supporting the manufactures who put out great performance cars really resonated with us as well along with saving the manuals which is why my wife and I scraped our money together bought a 2019 Honda Civic Type R new. Back when we were car shopping for our second car, we saw the last gen 86 and really loved the Toyota 86 Hakone Edition but with a young family we really could not justify getting something with such small back seats. Even after owning the Type R for a couple of years we are still amazed at the amount of performance and practicality you get for the money. We were able to get our car at MSRP. Now we are ready for some RWD, 6 speed manual fun now that we are almost done paying off our daily driver Toyota. The short list includes this Toyota 86, the Mazda Miata, the Mustang Eco Boost High Performance with the Handling Package and the new Z all in manuals. BTW we also got the PPF for our Toyota but we had to by a couple of PPF packages which ended up coving the whole front end of our car as well as the front portion of the hood and I believe it was warrantied for up to 3 years. Keep up the great work! On the eve of the all electric future we are seeing some amazing enthusiast's focused cars coming out right now and we are trying to get what we can before it is too late.
Epic show guys, 1 of your best episodes yet. As a guy that owns a 718 GT4 and a Cayman 981S, the GR86 (and BRZ) is on my shortlist if I ever sold the 981S. I did own a 2016 BRZ and I’m wondering if there really are any noticeable differences between how the GR86 and BRZ feel to drive and sit in?
You guys were genuinely happy with this, it shows how much you love cars!
Glad to see the passion you guys have for this car. This is not my favorite car but anyone that falls in love with driving can relate to your energy. Congrats 👍.
Those OZ Leggera's look amazing.
I like how you guys did proper fitment. None of that stretchy pokey fitment nonsense.
Just so you know, I sold my 718 to get one of these. The value for the money on the GR86 is incredible. Although the 718 is a amazing car, I was tired of paying the high maintenance and consumables costs. I have a deposit on a identical premium model GR86 in Neptune Blue, can’t wait.
nice!! I want the wheels with it as well. lol They used OZ Leggera HLT Gold. But don't know what inch wheel or tire size.
Love it! I bought a '21 MX-5 ND2 brand new so I'm happy I'm supporting the movement. Enjoy that GR86!
Love the car congrats on the buy, quick question, how’s the car handle in the winter with snow is it usable as a every day car or is it being RWD a little much?
Todd drove his original FRS through many Utah winters and snow storms. RWD isn't a problem if you have winter tires. That first gen was incredibly fun in the snow and this is no different. There are a couple videos on that car in the snow. Nothing showing it yet on this one. Thanks for watching!
I daily the ND miata in Colorado for a few years. With proper snow tires, anything under 1ft is very doable.
I've always wanted a 986 or 987, but at this price point for a new car. Burning question! A side by side comparison with 1st or 2nd gen boxter.1) Is it going to give me the same boxter fits like a glove interior. 2) is it gonna handle as good or better then boxter?
Thanks! Love how the channel is evolving!
@@hnc521 drove my mustang for the first time in the winter it was just fine. We had an ice storm and that was real bad, but to be expected.
@@evalonious I sold my 2009 Boxster S about a month ago and just took ownership of my new GR 86 about two weeks ago. The Boxster was a PDK transmission and I had all season continentals on it it also had 19 inch wheels. The GR 86 is the premium manual transmission and I bought a second set of wheels with Michelin winter tires so I can drive here year-round in Michigan. One of my main reasons for making the switch was for a greater comfort inside the car. I am 6 foot one and 170 pounds and I appreciate a little more legroom and being able to recline the seats also having space behind the seats for gear that one can easily reach and a good sized cupholder in the door. Terms of handling the cars are quite different the boxer is glued to the pavement and I never did break it loose on a curve. The GR 86 is easy to get sliding if that’s what you want to do especially in the winter. Comparing their steering the GR 86 is sharper especially on center very quick steering the Porsche was a bit more relaxed actually. I’m only at about 700 miles on the GR and have just today driven it over 4000 RPM for the first time. Obviously the big torque is 4000 up which was great to experience finally. The car is plenty fast for me not quite the same as the Porsche but just fine.
Congrats! I would like to upvote a series of videos of Paul drag racing the 86 against press fleet cars.
Great. RUclips gold... We'll get right on it..
I'm really mixed with a 981 Cayman Base 2.7 or a loaded GR86. Both the same price, same options, both drivers focused cars. Maybe your first review should be them head to head, because I'm for sure going to have to do it in person to make the choice.
Get the Cayman. Its a much more balanced car. Find a NA one. It will sing beautifully.
I am literally in the exact same boat as you. But they aren't the same price anymore. The Cayman is more in the low-high 40's for anything under 60k miles.
@@ptsrs yeah the GR86 would be probably a $5,000 savings, but I'd imagine after dealer markups and fees it might get very close to 40k. Especially where I live and them being so popular.
Love that you guys are following your own advice and leading by example. Looking forward to the series.
Great color choice! I still havent seen a 2nd gen brz/gr86 in person. Heck, I've still never seen a 1st gen 86 in person. See plenty of 1st gen frs/brz's near me though. I'm low key jealous, but I just got a 17 FiST a year ago so I'm going to enjoy it for a bit. Maybe a 2nd gen GR86 in the future.
I just ordered a loaded premium red 86 today. It will probably be a 2023 by time it gets built. You guys got me all jazzed now, and thanks for the paint protection tip.
How long to get it?
Stellar work guys. Can we hope to see this compared with Paul’s Cayman in a future video? Power aside, the two would have to be dynamically close.
AWESOME, guys!!! Jeff C. from Olympia here. You two did a car debate for me (Episode 647), and recommended, among other things, the Alpha Guilia 2.0T (w/Performance Package, of course!), and the JCW Mini. After watching this video, I just added the '22 GR86. DAMMIT! This is going to be a VERY difficult decision to make!! The fact that you loved the GR86 so much that you went and bought the dam'd thing speaks volumes. Wifey, aka. the MOF, is going to do some serious eye-rolling! I can hear it now: "You're 56, and want to buy a sports car?! Well, at least it's relatively affordable..." Oh, and I also just added the Elantra N to the list. I'm hopeless!
Nice car, congratulations! In your process of selecting this car and trim, did you consider and compare the Subaru BRZ? I would be interested to hear you guys on this and see the differences if any between (beside the obvious ducktail). Is one a better «deal» or different enough to pick depending on your preference in the tuning of it from factory?
I saw a Neptune Blue GR86 in traffic the other day and it gave me that Gotta Have It feeling I don't get with a lot of new cars anymore, great color!
Congratulations! 😁 We are so happy for you guys! Hope we can also get that car for us! 😁😁😁 with love from the Philippines! By the way we are also an automotive youtube channel 😁
New car unwrapping is my favorite new video. Someone put these up weekly. I will watch.
Really makes you wonder why anyone would go for the Supra honestly. Love the color. Front end styling reminds me of the gen 5 Viper or late model 370Z Nismo.
Love the statement about buying enthusiast car brand new to support them.
To the people who are now getting the second gen BRZ/86: you're welcome. :) - someone who bought a new BRZ back in 2015.
You guys are the reason i went with my first gen BRZ Sport Tech RS. Never regretted it. Looking forward to the content involving the new unit
That was so much fun to watch for those of us still waiting to pick one up. Thank you!
Okay, this was great, taking us with you on the unwrapping tour, seeing two grown up guys being as happy as two little boys in a toy shop.
I'm very jealous right now, it's great, that colour pops...
That's great you actually bought one! Congrats and looking forward to future updates and comparisons!
Gorgeous! I love it and love that you guys bought it. Looking forward to seeing it okay out with future comparisons.
Congrats on the 86. I had been thinking about buying one in that color. It looks fantastic. It's actually slightly darker and more rich in person. It looks slightly washed out on the video. And, yes, the dealer knows how to customize settings. We do it all the time, whether it's the Prius reverse buzzer or setting your door locks to all unlock with one press of the key fob. There are quite a few things you can change.
You guys are the best. This car is the best. The quote"This car is the best". Thank you for doing what you guys do.
Thanks for putting gold wheels on it so I could see what it would look like! I was thinking of ordering the exact same car and put Enkei RPF1 in gold on it.
Yes... The dealer can turn it off. I requested to have my piped in audio shut off prior to delivery, and they did. My gr86 was the first available in my area, and it was no problem. You will adjust to the blinkers. I love my car after two months. I do agree with the clear wrap. I had the full hood done rather than the factory wrap.