Keep rewatching this video through the years, it's a good video... maybe i'm not big enough yet but to be honest it's really not THAT hard, at least not most of the time or maybe in the US it's different idk, one of the most important things i have found out with this business is the saying "work smarter not harder" has never been more true, there are so many repetitive tasks in mushroom growing that if you aren't always working towards being more efficient you are going to have a hard time. Cutting a few extra seconds per bags means less hours per week, less labor cost, more competitive prices, more mental health, etc. Also prepare for the worst, have a backup of everything, like a pump, bag sealer, mixer, etc.
I’m a microbiologist and work for a international pharmaceutical company on the vaccine side. We have class A rooms and still get contamination’s on occasion, several hundred thousands of dollars dumped to waste. It happens.
I got a degree in biotechnology and concluded at the end that I just wasn't good enough in a lab. There were several occasions when I totally screwed up a project using the wrong pipette after a few days of insomnia. However, I did design a successful methodology to alter a bacterial chromosome using plasmids, restrictions enzymes, PCR, electrophoresis, and some other stuff (whole class had to approve and adopt it before materials were ordered; iirc we had to splice in a promoter sequence from a different plasmid to get it to work), and I saved my whole class from making a major error on a final project by staring at gene sequences, so that's kinda cool. Never got a chance to do any molecular studies or genetic experiments with any fungi besides yeast, though.
it's not about being positive or scaring off the competition. It's more about telling truths so people can make intelligent choices with their career and life.
@@earthangelmushrooms2118 I didn't see it as scaring anyone off. If you are going to start a business and invest money you would want this real talk from someone in the industry.
Finally, someone who's honest about business. Currently doing my research into mushroom farming. As a former bakery business owner I understand the struggle. I already know that despite my sound business knowledge, the transition ain't going to be easy. It's these hard facts that I need to hear. Thanks for the honesty.
My advice, forget about it. Use porter's 5 forces framework for an analysis and read some basic chapters from microeconomics and industrial organization books. After that, it will be obvious to you, that starting ANY farm business is a really bad idea, unless, you invest huge money from the start, to gain a large market share from the very beginning. Baking business has more options than farming, it is also a hard business, but at least you can differentiate yourself a little bit, and the market power of the distributors is weaker. Finally, I would advice you to seek some help from a business man or at least read more books, because even though you think that you have some knowledge/experience in business, it is clearly not enough for a sucess. Baking is a service industry which has higher added value than any farming business, if you have a problem making money in it, you will have even bigger problem in a primary sector, where the added value is on the lowest level!
@@nikolaizaicev9297 Umm... Its not the business model that I wasn't sure about. Its the specific hurdles relating to productivity, and product loss that I've been looking for. You're right about bakeries tho. If you're willing to think outside the box, match product range to the demographics of your region, and tailor them to wholesale clients needs; you can make quite a bit of money. Sadly due neurological damage sustained in a motor vehicle accident, I've now got partial paralysis to one side of the body. As such I was no longer about to do the more physical side of the business, so I sold up. Now I'm looking into business ventures that I can still be hands on with, without being so physically demanding. Mushrooms Microgreens Aqauponics They all have potential for where I live. They all have risks of their own They'll all cost money to setup. Once I know the risks involved, along with the regulations and zoning requirements for each of them. Then I'll skill up on the one that's most applicable and get started that way.
@@mathewpoole3589 Well, the main risk with most of them is, that you will not earn any serious money. Unlike the bakery, you accept the price from the market /supplier. So, if you start this business, and in a year another 100 people do the same, they will push the prices down, and you can not do anything against it. If you have a large market share, you may negotiate for a higher payment with the buyer, but on a smaller scale, those sharks will eat all your profit. This is one of the reasons, why most people start it as a side business first, untill they reach some degree of scale. I would recommend you, to stick with the service industry instead. If you still want to test all possible waters, I highly recommend to you those books : 1)Bob De Wit, Strategy (gives a nice overview about different views on competetive advantage and business competition, ) 2) Michael Porter - On Strategy and Competetive Advantage. Those books are the minimum, if you want to increase your chances for surviving in any business. You need to know what a Value is and how to use it to differentiate yourself. in business And you need to know at least the 5 Force's Framework and the VRIO Framework.
@@nikolaizaicev9297 What you are saying is no different to what I did with the bakery. I undercut competitors to gain new clients. I made products that no one else in the area could make, or didn't want to make. I made sure to provide a service that was much better than any of the local competitors. I offered the flexibility that the big boys couldn't afford to match. I understand competition, both current and future. I know how to calculate profit to the gram or second. One of the advantages that I have over others, is that I still have contacts from the bakery trade. All of my wholesale clients use fresh produce. They are all limited to one of 2 distributors in the region. Both of which source their goods from the same marketplace in the city. This means that neither of them can or are willing to tailor their product range, client to client. The cost of their produce is market up three times before the clients can get their hands on them. I've assessed the market potential. I've crunched the numbers. Now I'm looking at hurdles, regulations and crop failure. I've done my research on the how tos. Now its planning and assessing time for the cost of failure rates, low yields, repairs, and crop loss. Counter measures and backup plans. What you are saying isn't anything new to me.
Thank you for making these videos! Damn it's good to hear someone say that things go wrong, and that they're hard and that you'll cry. I'm a really small scale grower in Australia, and just starting out with almost no network makes you feel crazy when you fail and feel like you're messing everything up, and that just being more paranoid will make everything better. Turns out when a few of us small scale growers got together for the first time, the main thing we wanted to do was talk about how hard it is and let out some pent up anguish! I'm going to keep watching what you're up to and use that for the inspiration to keep going :)
Everytime I fail with my mushroom stuff I remember it's all a learning experience. Time after time it will finally come together, and when it does its a great feeling!
Truly admire your "Here's the Real Deal" presentation. Reminds me of my days as "Doc" on the green side. May you and yours be well and love life today. Namaste, JaiChai
sure it is hard. you know what's harder though. working your life away for a business besides your own. working your life away to make someone else's business successful while getting paid low income struggling just to get by. if the mushrooms did not work out or if there was not a great market for it I know you wouldnt stay doing it. The mushroom business is massive all around the world. your a great example a person that starts from a basement and now has thousands of sqft area because you put in your time and kept on with your ideas.
Just want to thank you for this video. Im approaching my 3rd year growing lions mane, king oysters, and shiitake for my local farmers market but have goals of evolving into more than just a Farmers market vendor. Your video just recharged my mental battery.
I saw your video randomly on RUclips. Your work was amazing. I saw your wife work with you too. God bless you and your family, and your business. My father is Brazilian, but I get married, and we move to Virginia. I want to explore the mushrooms' business.
Hello My Friend, wow you have accomplished so much in your young life that most people wont accomplish in an entire life time !! Also thank you for your military service to this country !!! Thank you for spelling it out and the truth about starting a business especially with a mushroom business and for that matter any agricultural endeavor inside or out ! If there were no risks involved with starting a business everyone would be doing it . When your dealing with mother nature she will be right there to tell you if your spot on or you have made a mistake. Also are you going to have tee shirts and ball caps with your logo ? Please keep up your great work and your CAN DO attitude !!!!
Thanks for this video! I'm a habitat manager and getting into mushroom cultivation and loving it, but I can't agree more on being a buisness man first. If you're too soft you lose money. Period. You need to put yourself first. Serve your customers by giving them quality product, but it all comes down to the bottom dollar. I've ran my own buisness for 5 yrs and trust me I have done everything wrong, but somehow still keep the lights on, but barely. Learn from your mistakes and keep improving. Thank you for your honesty!!
That was so well said & I completely agree even with just starting my business last year. I’ve been wanting to do a video on my exact costs for starting my smaller scale business since it is so new...definitely going to do that this week now because it’s important for peeps to know what they’re getting into from a startup cost. Thanks TR for doing what you do man!
719Moto Mx Yeah! I’m having s hard time keeping up with the demand which was immediate so I hired someone for just 6 hrs a week to help me make my batches & do little things that takes up my time. Doing between 80-100 lbs a week but I also sell microgreens & herbs so I’m busy:)
This guy speaks the truth. As humans, through our endeavors, there will be struggles, and while failure isnt an option, it is inevitable. But we must carry on.
Awesome video man. Can you possibly make a video to elaborate on why you feel your life's work it mushroom farming? I would be very interested to hear how and why you're so passionate about it.
Wow man, so much to say about this, but too much to type. This was THE absolute best "speech" I've heard on the the reality of being a mushroom farmer and the mindset one needs to have and understand going into it. Plus, the cool ass setup with a solo TR amongst the angled racks, no one around, speaking with passion. Thought you were about to cry there a couple times man. Kudos brother, this is appreciated.
It takes clarity and vision of a pilot to divide a sanitized perspective on the business! Thanks so much for the reality check! He’s saying that where you’re headed is rarely the same as your track - you need to constantly cross-ref your biz waypoints or you will be lost! Basic pilotage! He’s the zen-master of this biz! We should all listen!
A very valid statement, spoken from a long history of grinding. As a hobbyst grower I cna only give kuddos to those who have scaled the grow and made it such bomb job. Losses are unmistakably there for sure.. big up to Earth Angel. Entrepeneurship at its best!
Thank you for producing these. Very well done. I suspect your success has you associating with a higher class of people. 40 hrs. straight isn't as uncommon as you think. Scads of farmers do it every year trying to get crops in during a weather break, etc. I've done it multiple times in my machine shop. Any small business that has deadlines to meet will see it from time to time. Are you concerned about chemicals leaching from your treated grow racks when spraying them? Again, thank you for time and effort with these.
Well ol Tr took the leep onto RUclips. You are telling the truth, too! Mush farming ain't easy. It's a bit like dairy farming. The cows gotta be milked twice a day, and mushrooms gotta be picked the same. No vacations here.
I laughed when you said you were an airline pilot. I also am a career pilot looking for a backup plan. Never know what the industry is going to do. Thanks for tips!
Awesome advice! Thanks you so much. Quick question, when you’re selling your mushrooms, what kinds of trends do you see as far as the type of mushroom, to the type of restaurant? So what restaurants like king oyster mushrooms? What restaurants do you target and with what type of mushrooms?
started investigating growing mushrooms like 2 months ago, so far managed to get a lot of mold I never saw before, only some mycelium on cardboard survived more than 5 days thank you for the speech :)
hey i really appriciate this video. I just started growing mushrooms as a hobby and I've been getting so exited about it, Ive been growing more and more. It's like a drug. At this point, ive filled up my entire guest room. Do you have any comparisons on cost of production vs revenue and how that developed over time as you grew?
To amplify the sage advice provided here -if you have not sat down and formulated a COMPLETE PROPERLY done business plan complete with SWOT & TOWS analysis, you are not conducting a business but simply playing. There are plenty of good sites online to walk you through all of these steps - and PLEASE - make sure you do them, as you are building a roadmap for how things will go - including the anticipation of problems during inception as well as the setbacks that WILL occur along the way - and precisely HOW these will be addressed! In other words, what will happen will be narrowed due to the foresight provided by the process as well as specific steps to be taken in the event the various scenarios play out. Without this, you are wandering in the dark filled with great intentions but without a clue.
if you have contamination issues regularly you need to consult an aseptic processing specialist, this type of failure mode should should not occur that often.. you process id therefore unstable, inconstant, and is eating up resources
Thanks for the input. I was considering the idea of farming for profit but after hearing this I have decided that a hobby and to offset my own food costs would be enough profit for me as I already am doing a freelance career that makes me more money with less input.
Is it hard? LOL Thank you for the warning because I'm gearing up and will not fail. I will definitely be learning lots of lessons and I'm already crying just knowing. Awesome video thank you
I am curious what you do to keep all your lumber from getting funky. It doesn't look pressure treated. Do you apply something to your shelving to combat moisture wicking and molds?
Same for almost any business. Good think about a mushroom farm is that you can start small without too much of an investment. Still this looks like a very detailed oriented grind. I would do it on a very small scale, but not a farm.
This sounds a lot like software development as a contractor for small businesses and start-ups. I've worked months or years at a time on projects that left me with nothing to show for my efforts, meeting with investors and clients and the whole shebang. In one case, one of the co-founders absconded with all the money of a company I worked on for around three years at a substantially discounted rate in exchange for equity (while in college getting my bachelor's degree). And even when I get paid fairly, sometimes I'll spend a few days investigating and solving some major underlying issue to fix a piece of critical infrastructure, and then five minutes after everything is running smoothly again a totally unrelated issue emerges that totally breaks the whole thing again (just happened today). The cycle of working half to death and recovering half back to life is fucking brutal. My longest single work session ever was 27 hours just a few weeks ago. This industry is fundamentally broken, and the solution is always to apply the smallest piece of duct tape possible to buy enough time to shower and get a few hours of sleep.
Agreed with you ! Be a biz man first than a grower ! Anyway, I am looking for collaboration with expert to develop mushrooms biz in Indonesia. Please advise !
Every time I watch one of your videos I'm going to keep asking how do you sanitize a wood and keep the room clean going to keep asking because I don't understand how you keep the wood sanitary ¿?
RUclips shows a LOT of successful mushroom growers that started in their spare bed room or basement. They did not have previous business experience. It wouldn't hurt, of course...
Has anybody ever though of using a mixture of rock dust powders mixtures mixed with activated carbon and moisten with enough water to make it nearly wet and spray it with clean mineral oil or liquid wax or liquid petroleum jelly and plant a mushroom at the edges of that patch to act as a catalyst starter until the entire growing bed is covered with mushrooms. It is worth a try, besides mushrooms needs a clean environment and cool to cold temperatures to multiply. Get a group of mycologists and nutritionists to gather all of the different species of edible mushrooms and all of the different edible varieties of each specie of edible mushrooms and analyze their nutritional composition and of what kind of proteins, vitamins, minerals, micro-nutrients, trace elements, carbohydrates, fats, fibers and their content level and measure their proteins, vitamins, minerals, micro-nutrients, trace elements, carbohydrates, fats, fiber contents. And then try to combine them in such a way so as to provide an all mushroom breakfast, lunch, and dinner. And in between snacks-meals. ruclips.net/video/XI5frPV58tY/видео.html Fungi (mushrooms, myco-proteins, etc) uses radiation as a source of energy 7:15 to 7:25 . 8:03 to 9:35 Fungi, mushrooms know as myco-protein, converted oil into food, OYSTER MUSROOMS! ruclips.net/video/XI5frPV58tY/видео.html ruclips.net/video/XI5frPV58tY/видео.html 6 ways mushrooms can save the world | Paul Stamets Mycologist Paul Stamets studies the mycelium -- and lists 6 ways that this astonishing fungus can help save the world. ruclips.net/video/7agK0nkiZpA/видео.html Mushrooms as Medicine with Paul Stamets at Exponential Medicine Leading mycologist Paul Stamets shares his work exploring the diverse role medicinal mushrooms may have in activating our immune systems and helping treat cancer, to new data supporting the role of fungi in biosecurity and the health of the bees that pollinate our planet. Fungi (mushrooms, myco-proteins, etc) uses radiation as a source of energy 7:15 to 7:25 . 8:03 to 9:35 Fungi, mushrooms know as myco-protein, converted oil into food, OYSTER MUSROOMS! ruclips.net/video/XI5frPV58tY/видео.html If mushrooms can use oil as a medium, then why not use activated carbon which is bio-activated by mixing it with an equal amount or a calculated amount of composite rock dust powders mixtures and blended and mixed together and then continued to be blended and mixed together while being sprayed and misted by a spraying misting water sprayer-mister to make the mixture moist but not wet but almost wet but throughly moisten from the inside out and the water used is mixed with dissolved past saturation point composite rock dust powders mixtures. And then add all of the different species and natural varieties of each specie of safe edible mushrooms, one specie to one batch and one variety of each specie to one batch of a mixture of moisten but almost wet through and through of composite rock dust powders mixtures and activated carbon made from bituminous coal.
There are only really two pieces of information in this video: be a businessperson first, dont assume because you enjoy something that you will be good at doing it for a living. Having owned two and managed a total of three food industry businesses I agree with this wholeheartedly. Just because cousin Larry makes the best macaroons doesnt mean he should start a bakery. The other piece of information in the video is that shit (contamination) happens and its hard. Well, the first part of that is covered by reading the first chapter in any mushroom cultivation book: contamination is a major issue. The second part is more or less implied by the first point that you should have some business skills and be willing and able to work hard. I agree, there are not enough videos that talk about how to start growing commercially, but this video doesnt really touch on any of the nuts and bolts i.e. how to best approach restaurateurs and chefs and establish a clientele or how to appropriately price your mushrooms so as to have a competitive price but not be just giving away all your labor and investment. I do appreciate hearing someone say how hard it is to start your own business, because some folks just focus on the positives and give people the wrong idea, but how about a video talking about the above mentioned issues? Other topics could include appropriate storage and transport (should one be thinking about a commercial fridge or walk in cooler for instance), how to maintain a consistent yield so as not to leave customers hanging, how to get paid in a timely manner (this can be an issue with restaurant clients that are used to dealing with larger distribution companies that offer credit lines). Just my thoughts as a former business owner and aspiring small scale commercial cultivator.
Thanks for the reply. You should watch my entire channel. I share a ton of information but I'm not going to share some information for free. I offer consulting for that.
@@earthangelmushrooms2118 Fair enough! and if I wasnt clear, I really appreciate all you youtubers that are sharing information to the public. If it werent for youtube channels like yours and Paul Stamets' book I wouldnt even be considering this undertaking! I wish I could afford to go do a workshop, but my prior experience with organic farming including working with shiitake logs, owning businesses and frankly brewing beer I think have prepared me for whats to come. Thanks!
I'm sharing this with my daughter who is wanting to grow mushrooms as a secondary business until her organic cattle ranch takes off. BTW, she's used to working 7 days a week and is a single mom.
@@earthangelmushrooms2118 take a look at Fairymount Fine foods (in Australia). they are doing exactly that with great success. they are a case study on one of the grocycle videos
witam cie kolego masz rocje ze choowla grzybow to bardzo ciezka praca sam mialem pieczarkarnie i to spora 6 chal nie bylo jek muwisz na nic tylko charowa od rana do rana na ludzi nie bylo co liczyc pozdrawiam Kris z Polski
I've come to accept contamination is part of the process, I used to get really mad when I got a contamination, now it doesn't bother me at all, I learn from it.
Your video is great! Thank you so much for it! I have to disagree with you about there is no other business that makes you work this hard. My husband and I have a dental laboratory and for the past 10 years, we have never had a full weekend off. We wake up at 3 in the morning and work until 10 at night except one day a week. But, you are absolutely right when you say this is happening because of lack of employees. I am glad you found people you can trust. We were not that lucky. Good luck with everything! You are doing awesome! It is not easy being a business owner, but I wouldn't change it for anything.
Would it make sense to rent out a 2 bedroom apartment and use one of the rooms to fruit my mushrooms in? My parents won't let me grow in their basement and my girlfriend is a hoarder so I ditched my king oyster grow and I'm feeling the sadness right now pretty bad. I need to perfect my technique, but I have nowhere to do it. I can't justify renting commercial space until my technique is perfected. Any advice would help
This is not only true when it comes to start a mushroom farm. This speech is just universal to every start up. Thanks for your intel mate💯
Keep rewatching this video through the years, it's a good video... maybe i'm not big enough yet but to be honest it's really not THAT hard, at least not most of the time or maybe in the US it's different idk, one of the most important things i have found out with this business is the saying "work smarter not harder" has never been more true, there are so many repetitive tasks in mushroom growing that if you aren't always working towards being more efficient you are going to have a hard time. Cutting a few extra seconds per bags means less hours per week, less labor cost, more competitive prices, more mental health, etc. Also prepare for the worst, have a backup of everything, like a pump, bag sealer, mixer, etc.
A farmer's life. 7 days a week, hail, dry weather, you have to be prepared for failure. Same with mushrooms. Good job.
I’m a microbiologist and work for a international pharmaceutical company on the vaccine side. We have class A rooms and still get contamination’s on occasion, several hundred thousands of dollars dumped to waste. It happens.
I got a degree in biotechnology and concluded at the end that I just wasn't good enough in a lab. There were several occasions when I totally screwed up a project using the wrong pipette after a few days of insomnia. However, I did design a successful methodology to alter a bacterial chromosome using plasmids, restrictions enzymes, PCR, electrophoresis, and some other stuff (whole class had to approve and adopt it before materials were ordered; iirc we had to splice in a promoter sequence from a different plasmid to get it to work), and I saved my whole class from making a major error on a final project by staring at gene sequences, so that's kinda cool. Never got a chance to do any molecular studies or genetic experiments with any fungi besides yeast, though.
1ST rule to growing mushrooms for a living is to scare off the future competition. Bravo well played my goodman.
He sure is Mr positivity
it's not about being positive or scaring off the competition. It's more about telling truths so people can make intelligent choices with their career and life.
@@earthangelmushrooms2118 I didn't see it as scaring anyone off. If you are going to start a business and invest money you would want this real talk from someone in the industry.
This is probably the best and honest video about this industry. Straight up.
Cheers TR your advice is worth a lot. Really enjoying your videos!
Finally, someone who's honest about business.
Currently doing my research into mushroom farming. As a former bakery business owner I understand the struggle.
I already know that despite my sound business knowledge, the transition ain't going to be easy. It's these hard facts that I need to hear.
Thanks for the honesty.
My advice, forget about it.
Use porter's 5 forces framework for an analysis and read some basic chapters from microeconomics and industrial organization books.
After that, it will be obvious to you, that starting ANY farm business is a really bad idea, unless, you invest huge money from the start, to gain a large market share from the very beginning.
Baking business has more options than farming, it is also a hard business, but at least you can differentiate yourself a little bit, and the market power of the distributors is weaker.
Finally, I would advice you to seek some help from a business man or at least read more books, because even though you think that you have some knowledge/experience in business, it is clearly not enough for a sucess. Baking is a service industry which has higher added value than any farming business, if you have a problem making money in it, you will have even bigger problem in a primary sector, where the added value is on the lowest level!
@@nikolaizaicev9297
Umm... Its not the business model that I wasn't sure about.
Its the specific hurdles relating to productivity, and product loss that I've been looking for.
You're right about bakeries tho. If you're willing to think outside the box, match product range to the demographics of your region, and tailor them to wholesale clients needs; you can make quite a bit of money.
Sadly due neurological damage sustained in a motor vehicle accident, I've now got partial paralysis to one side of the body.
As such I was no longer about to do the more physical side of the business, so I sold up.
Now I'm looking into business ventures that I can still be hands on with, without being so physically demanding.
Mushrooms
Microgreens
Aqauponics
They all have potential for where I live.
They all have risks of their own
They'll all cost money to setup.
Once I know the risks involved, along with the regulations and zoning requirements for each of them. Then I'll skill up on the one that's most applicable and get started that way.
@@mathewpoole3589
Well, the main risk with most of them is, that you will not earn any serious money.
Unlike the bakery, you accept the price from the market /supplier.
So, if you start this business, and in a year another 100 people do the same, they will push the prices down, and you can not do anything against it.
If you have a large market share, you may negotiate for a higher payment with the buyer, but on a smaller scale, those sharks will eat all your profit.
This is one of the reasons, why most people start it as a side business first, untill they reach some degree of scale.
I would recommend you, to stick with the service industry instead.
If you still want to test all possible waters, I highly recommend to you those books :
1)Bob De Wit, Strategy (gives a nice overview about different views on competetive advantage and business competition, )
2) Michael Porter - On Strategy and Competetive Advantage.
Those books are the minimum, if you want to increase your chances for surviving in any business.
You need to know what a Value is and how to use it to differentiate yourself. in business
And you need to know at least the 5 Force's Framework and the VRIO Framework.
@@nikolaizaicev9297
What you are saying is no different to what I did with the bakery.
I undercut competitors to gain new clients.
I made products that no one else in the area could make, or didn't want to make.
I made sure to provide a service that was much better than any of the local competitors.
I offered the flexibility that the big boys couldn't afford to match.
I understand competition, both current and future.
I know how to calculate profit to the gram or second.
One of the advantages that I have over others, is that I still have contacts from the bakery trade.
All of my wholesale clients use fresh produce.
They are all limited to one of 2 distributors in the region. Both of which source their goods from the same marketplace in the city.
This means that neither of them can or are willing to tailor their product range, client to client.
The cost of their produce is market up three times before the clients can get their hands on them.
I've assessed the market potential.
I've crunched the numbers.
Now I'm looking at hurdles, regulations and crop failure.
I've done my research on the how tos.
Now its planning and assessing time for the cost of failure rates, low yields, repairs, and crop loss.
Counter measures and backup plans.
What you are saying isn't anything new to me.
@@mathewpoole3589 It's been a few years since your last comment, how is your business doing?
Thank you for making these videos! Damn it's good to hear someone say that things go wrong, and that they're hard and that you'll cry. I'm a really small scale grower in Australia, and just starting out with almost no network makes you feel crazy when you fail and feel like you're messing everything up, and that just being more paranoid will make everything better. Turns out when a few of us small scale growers got together for the first time, the main thing we wanted to do was talk about how hard it is and let out some pent up anguish! I'm going to keep watching what you're up to and use that for the inspiration to keep going :)
How's it going?
Everytime I fail with my mushroom stuff I remember it's all a learning experience. Time after time it will finally come together, and when it does its a great feeling!
Thank you for your service and thank you for sharing your perspective and experience. This really just helped me.
Love the honesty m8! Gives me plenty to think about for the future...
Thank you very much from north-central Oklahoma. Great video!
Truly admire your "Here's the Real Deal" presentation. Reminds me of my days as "Doc" on the green side. May you and yours be well and love life today. Namaste, JaiChai
Thank you for sharing your wisdom! Awesome videos !
sure it is hard. you know what's harder though. working your life away for a business besides your own. working your life away to make someone else's business successful while getting paid low income struggling just to get by. if the mushrooms did not work out or if there was not a great market for it I know you wouldnt stay doing it. The mushroom business is massive all around the world. your a great example a person that starts from a basement and now has thousands of sqft area because you put in your time and kept on with your ideas.
719Moto Mx and he started only 7 years ago
Actually the mushroom business is extremely small. 1.3 billion in the U.S. which is extremely tiny compared to most
Earth Angel Mushrooms monterey mushroom company makes millions here in monterey ca...u can make money cmon boss
pretty sure u are making 1 mill in gross sales by now
Earth Angel Mushrooms u said 15 to 16 hrs i work that as chef its all good once u start making it
Just want to thank you for this video. Im approaching my 3rd year growing lions mane, king oysters, and shiitake for my local farmers market but have goals of evolving into more than just a Farmers market vendor. Your video just recharged my mental battery.
Were you profitable as a market vendor?
I saw your video randomly on RUclips. Your work was amazing. I saw your wife work with you too. God bless you and your family, and your business. My father is Brazilian, but I get married, and we move to Virginia. I want to explore the mushrooms' business.
Right on mushroom brother
All so true for any business, we just love mushrooms.
Great advise.
Hello My Friend, wow you have accomplished so much in your young life that most people wont accomplish in an entire life time !! Also thank you for your military service to this country !!! Thank you for spelling it out and the truth about starting a business especially with a mushroom business and for that matter any agricultural endeavor inside or out ! If there were no risks involved with starting a business everyone would be doing it . When your dealing with mother nature she will be right there to tell you if your spot on or you have made a mistake. Also are you going to have tee shirts and ball caps with your logo ? Please keep up your great work and your CAN DO attitude !!!!
no such thing as acoomplix or not, doesnt matter
Thanks for this video! I'm a habitat manager and getting into mushroom cultivation and loving it, but I can't agree more on being a buisness man first. If you're too soft you lose money. Period. You need to put yourself first. Serve your customers by giving them quality product, but it all comes down to the bottom dollar. I've ran my own buisness for 5 yrs and trust me I have done everything wrong, but somehow still keep the lights on, but barely. Learn from your mistakes and keep improving. Thank you for your honesty!!
I love that you give such a realistic perspective, respect my man ✊
Thanks for everything you said from start to finish, you commented on everything I was wondering about.
No problem Oscar. I attempt to convey info to folks in the attempt they won't have to make the same mistakes I have
I`m getting all set to start a small scale in april and this is really inspiring. Also frightening but let`s do this. Thanks for the message.
How's the grow going?
That was so well said & I completely agree even with just starting my business last year. I’ve been wanting to do a video on my exact costs for starting my smaller scale business since it is so new...definitely going to do that this week now because it’s important for peeps to know what they’re getting into from a startup cost. Thanks TR for doing what you do man!
Jewell's Funky Fungi you have any success?
719Moto Mx Yeah! I’m having s hard time keeping up with the demand which was immediate so I hired someone for just 6 hrs a week to help me make my batches & do little things that takes up my time. Doing between 80-100 lbs a week but I also sell microgreens & herbs so I’m busy:)
719Moto Mx Just posted a little bit ago. Long but informative!
Where can I buy blocks? I love both of your channels.
Special thanks for straightforwardness and honesty, you are brilliant
This guy speaks the truth. As humans, through our endeavors, there will be struggles, and while failure isnt an option, it is inevitable. But we must carry on.
Omg i needed to hear this. Thank you
Awesome video man. Can you possibly make a video to elaborate on why you feel your life's work it mushroom farming? I would be very interested to hear how and why you're so passionate about it.
Wow man, so much to say about this, but too much to type. This was THE absolute best "speech" I've heard on the the reality of being a mushroom farmer and the mindset one needs to have and understand going into it. Plus, the cool ass setup with a solo TR amongst the angled racks, no one around, speaking with passion. Thought you were about to cry there a couple times man. Kudos brother, this is appreciated.
wrr, say any nmw s ok
It takes clarity and vision of a pilot to divide a sanitized perspective on the business! Thanks so much for the reality check! He’s saying that where you’re headed is rarely the same as your track - you need to constantly cross-ref your biz waypoints or you will be lost! Basic pilotage! He’s the zen-master of this biz! We should all listen!
A very valid statement, spoken from a long history of grinding. As a hobbyst grower I cna only give kuddos to those who have scaled the grow and made it such bomb job. Losses are unmistakably there for sure.. big up to Earth Angel. Entrepeneurship at its best!
Thank you for producing these. Very well done. I suspect your success has you associating with a higher class of people. 40 hrs. straight isn't as uncommon as you think. Scads of farmers do it every year trying to get crops in during a weather break, etc. I've done it multiple times in my machine shop. Any small business that has deadlines to meet will see it from time to time. Are you concerned about chemicals leaching from your treated grow racks when spraying them? Again, thank you for time and effort with these.
Well ol Tr took the leep onto RUclips. You are telling the truth, too! Mush farming ain't easy. It's a bit like dairy farming. The cows gotta be milked twice a day, and mushrooms gotta be picked the same. No vacations here.
I laughed when you said you were an airline pilot. I also am a career pilot looking for a backup plan. Never know what the industry is going to do. Thanks for tips!
The mindset "that I am put on earth to grow mushrooms" is necessary. I am also going to watch this video every week to keep myself on my toes.
Great video! Very inspirational🤘🤘
Not Marine but Army Infantry...I knew there was a reason I liked this guy.
wrg
Thank you for your service.
Awesome advice! Thanks you so much. Quick question, when you’re selling your mushrooms, what kinds of trends do you see as far as the type of mushroom, to the type of restaurant? So what restaurants like king oyster mushrooms? What restaurants do you target and with what type of mushrooms?
started investigating growing mushrooms like 2 months ago, so far managed to get a lot of mold I never saw before, only some mycelium on cardboard survived more than 5 days
thank you for the speech :)
thank you for your honesty
Thanks for your advice and incorengmen ❤
Thank you soo much for these words!
hey i really appriciate this video. I just started growing mushrooms as a hobby and I've been getting so exited about it, Ive been growing more and more. It's like a drug. At this point, ive filled up my entire guest room. Do you have any comparisons on cost of production vs revenue and how that developed over time as you grew?
I really really believe with what you says,
And I'll remember your advice
To amplify the sage advice provided here -if you have not sat down and formulated a COMPLETE PROPERLY done business plan complete with SWOT & TOWS analysis, you are not conducting a business but simply playing. There are plenty of good sites online to walk you through all of these steps - and PLEASE - make sure you do them, as you are building a roadmap for how things will go - including the anticipation of problems during inception as well as the setbacks that WILL occur along the way - and precisely HOW these will be addressed! In other words, what will happen will be narrowed due to the foresight provided by the process as well as specific steps to be taken in the event the various scenarios play out. Without this, you are wandering in the dark filled with great intentions but without a clue.
You have just good common sense and a great business ethic. Because of that you will be successful.
if you have contamination issues regularly you need to consult an aseptic processing specialist, this type of failure mode should should not occur that often.. you process id therefore unstable, inconstant, and is eating up resources
WOW! Now that's an operation!
I'll be watching.
Thanks for the input.
I was considering the idea of farming for profit but after hearing this I have decided that a hobby and to offset my own food costs would be enough profit for me as I already am doing a freelance career that makes me more money with less input.
Watchinh from south Philippines sir. Keep it up... "feed the world"
Is it hard? LOL Thank you for the warning because I'm gearing up and will not fail. I will definitely be learning lots of lessons and I'm already crying just knowing. Awesome video thank you
Thanks for the info and reality check 👍 How many bags/pounds could you process by yourself when you first started?
thanks for the heads up.
thanks for your sincerity
I am curious what you do to keep all your lumber from getting funky. It doesn't look pressure treated. Do you apply something to your shelving to combat moisture wicking and molds?
Honest at it’s best!
Same for almost any business. Good think about a mushroom farm is that you can start small without too much of an investment. Still this looks like a very detailed oriented grind. I would do it on a very small scale, but not a farm.
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Thank you!
Great advice, bud.
This sounds a lot like software development as a contractor for small businesses and start-ups. I've worked months or years at a time on projects that left me with nothing to show for my efforts, meeting with investors and clients and the whole shebang. In one case, one of the co-founders absconded with all the money of a company I worked on for around three years at a substantially discounted rate in exchange for equity (while in college getting my bachelor's degree). And even when I get paid fairly, sometimes I'll spend a few days investigating and solving some major underlying issue to fix a piece of critical infrastructure, and then five minutes after everything is running smoothly again a totally unrelated issue emerges that totally breaks the whole thing again (just happened today). The cycle of working half to death and recovering half back to life is fucking brutal. My longest single work session ever was 27 hours just a few weeks ago. This industry is fundamentally broken, and the solution is always to apply the smallest piece of duct tape possible to buy enough time to shower and get a few hours of sleep.
I understand now. TR stands for Tony Robbins! Great video man.
Ted Morter not even close
Agreed with you !
Be a biz man first than a grower !
Anyway, I am looking for collaboration with expert to develop mushrooms biz in Indonesia. Please advise !
How do I contaminated the product? By not having sterilized water or not having clean air? Please do tell!
Business is just tough no matter what the business is if you want to be successful!
...so inspiring☺️
Thank you for your service....
How much does it matter whether how saturated the mushroom market is in my country?
Where you at fellow fungi lover? What's your website to purchase mushrooms from you..
dam im just thinking bout supplying chefs and thinking of the profits ...everything that will make you money is hard
Your hall way looks like a mirror half way down. You should paint some happy colors on your shelf
Mind set, a plan and some passion can take you such a long way.
Every time I watch one of your videos I'm going to keep asking how do you sanitize a wood and keep the room clean going to keep asking because I don't understand how you keep the wood sanitary ¿?
RUclips shows a LOT of successful mushroom growers that started in their spare bed room or basement.
They did not have previous business experience.
It wouldn't hurt, of course...
Has anybody ever though of using a mixture of rock dust powders mixtures mixed with activated carbon and moisten with enough water to make it nearly wet and spray it with clean mineral oil or liquid wax or liquid petroleum jelly and plant a mushroom at the edges of that patch to act as a catalyst starter until the entire growing bed is covered with mushrooms. It is worth a try, besides mushrooms needs a clean environment and cool to cold temperatures to multiply. Get a group of mycologists and nutritionists to gather all of the different species of edible mushrooms and all of the different edible varieties of each specie of edible mushrooms and analyze their nutritional composition and of what kind of proteins, vitamins, minerals, micro-nutrients, trace elements, carbohydrates, fats, fibers and their content level and measure their proteins, vitamins, minerals, micro-nutrients, trace elements, carbohydrates, fats, fiber contents. And then try to combine them in such a way so as to provide an all mushroom breakfast, lunch, and dinner. And in between snacks-meals.
ruclips.net/video/XI5frPV58tY/видео.html Fungi (mushrooms, myco-proteins, etc) uses radiation as a source of energy 7:15 to 7:25 . 8:03 to 9:35 Fungi, mushrooms know as myco-protein, converted oil into food, OYSTER MUSROOMS! ruclips.net/video/XI5frPV58tY/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/XI5frPV58tY/видео.html 6 ways mushrooms can save the world | Paul Stamets Mycologist Paul
Stamets studies the mycelium -- and lists 6 ways that this astonishing fungus can help save the world. ruclips.net/video/7agK0nkiZpA/видео.html Mushrooms as Medicine with Paul Stamets at Exponential Medicine Leading mycologist Paul Stamets shares his work exploring the diverse role medicinal mushrooms may have in activating our immune systems and helping treat cancer, to new data supporting the role of fungi in biosecurity and the health of the bees that pollinate our planet.
Fungi (mushrooms, myco-proteins, etc) uses radiation as a source of energy 7:15 to 7:25 . 8:03 to 9:35 Fungi, mushrooms know as myco-protein, converted oil into food, OYSTER MUSROOMS! ruclips.net/video/XI5frPV58tY/видео.html If mushrooms can use oil as a medium, then why not use activated carbon which is bio-activated by mixing it with an equal amount or a calculated amount of composite rock dust powders mixtures and blended and mixed together and then continued to be blended and mixed together while being sprayed and misted by a spraying misting water sprayer-mister to make the mixture moist but not wet but almost wet but throughly moisten from the inside out and the water used is mixed with dissolved past saturation point composite rock dust powders mixtures.
And then add all of the different species and natural varieties of each specie of safe edible mushrooms, one specie to one batch and one variety of each specie to one batch of a mixture of moisten but almost wet through and through of composite rock dust powders mixtures and activated carbon made from bituminous coal.
great job man! now FULFILL YOUR DESTINY and become a Shroom Jedi and grow morels!!
Very interesting video, thumb up
Thanks for telling the truth
Wow now that was motivating 😑
Thanks for the honesty tho!👌✌️❤️
thank you for your honesy.You are very smart person.
How did you solve the green mold disease?
I like that hoodie to where con I get one?
i have been looking to do something different i bored with my 9 to 5 i want passion for something
There are only really two pieces of information in this video: be a businessperson first, dont assume because you enjoy something that you will be good at doing it for a living. Having owned two and managed a total of three food industry businesses I agree with this wholeheartedly. Just because cousin Larry makes the best macaroons doesnt mean he should start a bakery. The other piece of information in the video is that shit (contamination) happens and its hard. Well, the first part of that is covered by reading the first chapter in any mushroom cultivation book: contamination is a major issue. The second part is more or less implied by the first point that you should have some business skills and be willing and able to work hard. I agree, there are not enough videos that talk about how to start growing commercially, but this video doesnt really touch on any of the nuts and bolts i.e. how to best approach restaurateurs and chefs and establish a clientele or how to appropriately price your mushrooms so as to have a competitive price but not be just giving away all your labor and investment. I do appreciate hearing someone say how hard it is to start your own business, because some folks just focus on the positives and give people the wrong idea, but how about a video talking about the above mentioned issues? Other topics could include appropriate storage and transport (should one be thinking about a commercial fridge or walk in cooler for instance), how to maintain a consistent yield so as not to leave customers hanging, how to get paid in a timely manner (this can be an issue with restaurant clients that are used to dealing with larger distribution companies that offer credit lines). Just my thoughts as a former business owner and aspiring small scale commercial cultivator.
Thanks for the reply. You should watch my entire channel. I share a ton of information but I'm not going to share some information for free. I offer consulting for that.
@@earthangelmushrooms2118 Fair enough! and if I wasnt clear, I really appreciate all you youtubers that are sharing information to the public. If it werent for youtube channels like yours and Paul Stamets' book I wouldnt even be considering this undertaking! I wish I could afford to go do a workshop, but my prior experience with organic farming including working with shiitake logs, owning businesses and frankly brewing beer I think have prepared me for whats to come. Thanks!
Hi greetings from India, can you help with the racking system ? I wish to start the same.
The way we communicates this info makes me believe he served in the marines or army.
I appreciate this video
Literally at the 7:35 mark, got my answer 🤣👌
Thank you for your service
I'm sharing this with my daughter who is wanting to grow mushrooms as a secondary business until her organic cattle ranch takes off. BTW, she's used to working 7 days a week and is a single mom.
Tell your daughter that she will never have enough time to do both and one or the other will fail.
@@earthangelmushrooms2118 take a look at Fairymount Fine foods (in Australia). they are doing exactly that with great success. they are a case study on one of the grocycle videos
What do I need to do to set up the project.??
witam cie kolego masz rocje ze choowla grzybow to bardzo ciezka praca sam mialem pieczarkarnie i to spora 6 chal nie bylo jek muwisz na nic tylko charowa od rana do rana na ludzi nie bylo co liczyc pozdrawiam Kris z Polski
I've come to accept contamination is part of the process, I used to get really mad when I got a contamination, now it doesn't bother me at all, I learn from it.
Thanks bro ❤🍄
Your video is great! Thank you so much for it! I have to disagree with you about there is no other business that makes you work this hard. My husband and I have a dental laboratory and for the past 10 years, we have never had a full weekend off. We wake up at 3 in the morning and work until 10 at night except one day a week. But, you are absolutely right when you say this is happening because of lack of employees. I am glad you found people you can trust. We were not that lucky.
Good luck with everything! You are doing awesome! It is not easy being a business owner, but I wouldn't change it for anything.
meticulously inspirational words.
Great talk
Would it make sense to rent out a 2 bedroom apartment and use one of the rooms to fruit my mushrooms in? My parents won't let me grow in their basement and my girlfriend is a hoarder so I ditched my king oyster grow and I'm feeling the sadness right now pretty bad. I need to perfect my technique, but I have nowhere to do it. I can't justify renting commercial space until my technique is perfected. Any advice would help
Hey man, I know it's a full two years later, but how did everything work out?
Hey man, I know it's a full four years later, but how did everything work out?
Is it so
Hard because of your scale?
Hardcore motivation...🤘👍🤘
I’m going to start watching this video once a week to remind myself why I shouldn’t start a farm
Thank you for your videos
MD H. Don’t live in this guys shadow
From ur level of experience do u feel now that it's difficult to achieve faliure. I can achieve that coz I'm thinking about starting..