Quick Tip: Increased My Yields Overnight With Just One Cut
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2021
- Hey MossBacks! We’ve got another informational video for you today.
This is why open source is the way to go in mushroom farming. People networking and learning what each person does well makes all of us better growers. This builds a community that can help turn us all into great growers and at a much faster pace as well. Desert Moon Mushrooms gets a big shout-out from me on helping me get even larger yields by changing nothing but our cuts on our fruiting blocks.
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Your videos are very informative and much appreciated. I am from Greeneville and am starting my own mushrooms. Have settled down to your videos because they have been great help to me.
Good to hear since I have been increasing my bag cuts lately. Actually for my chestnuts I am removing the whole bag like we do for shitakes, and the chestnuts show all over with much bigger yields!!
Thanks, Andrew, i learn something every time i watch your stuff.
Great tips! I will be trying this cut on my next blocks!
Andrew, I love to see everything your doing and thank you for sharing so much knowledge. One thing I'd love to see is some shows on preparing and cooking different mushrooms for different dishes. Maybe even invite one of your chefs as a guest, or even film at their restaurant preparing and explaining their dishes. That could almost be a whole sub-series. That could also highlight them as a customer but get them attention that viewers might want to go there to patron their business too. Win-win for everyone. Could call it Cooking Mushrooms for Mossbacks 🤣
Thanks again for what you do.
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Ooooooo yeahhhh give me those sweet sweet tips.....
Just the tips?
@@mycominer Just for a second
Thanks for this video! Please do more. I know you are busy, but you are making us all better growers. Thank you b
You are very welcome, and I will do my best.
Love seeing the facility built out. Sweet man
Nice to see you again - thanks for the tip
nice to see you too! You are very welcome.
Always a quality presentation...thanks so MUCH:)
You are very welcome, thank you for watching!
Awesome video and love seeing the Mjolnair that’s what made me start watching your videos
Thank you.
Great Info, thanks Andrew.
You are very welcome!
hey Andrew i'm planning to start my own farm here in Indonesia, thank you for sharing so much information regarding mushroom cultivation, and sometimes business tips too! u are one of my role model in mushroom cultivation business and i hope my business would be as great and sustainable as yours. Good luck man, again, thank you so much!
That is awesome to hear, good luck to you and you are very welcome!
Akhdan, Salamat alaikum. Yes, I'm bule but my wife and kids are Indonesian. We're in the USA right now but our hearts are always in Indonesia. We lived in Bintaro and I dream of returning and growing mushrooms and edible plants. I hope we meet some day.
@@DrGaryGreen walaikum salam, thats awesome! when u really start the business here someday, perhaps you'd be the first bule to have a mushroom cultivation business in Indonesia 🤣 that'd be cool. Hope everything goes easy for u and ur family! And sure i'd love to meet fellow mushroom grower as well, moreover other people that watch and learn from this channel! Goodluck!
@@DrGaryGreen also greetings from Semarang, the capital city of Central Java Province. Its east of Jakarta, and probably u have already known it as u lived here yourself
@@marchosias2071
My Wife was telling me of thousands of people in your area, laid off from work because of Covid. She says they started raising mushrooms. That must be you. You're world famous. 🌎 😄
James Maske, WOW Hey Mossy Creek Mushrooms, I started the 1" x 3" Flap Door in Nov. 2020, Good to see you have learn from my success. I get a 1.5 Lb.'s off a 7.8 Lb. Bag.
Keep sharing. You're keeping the corporations out! Thank you.
Appreciate the info bud, cheers.
You're very welcome.
Sir Andrew I admire your content bro specially about mushrooms 🍄 new friend and happy to watch you 🍄🍄😍
Nice to see IT pays off to experiment!
It really does.
You guys are awesome.
thnak you
Southwest mushrooms mainly cuts the tops off, leaving about 3 inches of bag. That’s what I’ve been doing and had great flushes.
Keep them coming champion, no rest for the wicked :)
No kidding!
Nice share Andrew, miss you guys,...
Nice to see you too! I'm through most of the summer slump, you'll be seeing a lot more of me, until next August that is ;)
Shout out desert moon, 2hr consults, and endless info on the discord!
Indeed!
Thanks Justin!
Thanks for sharing this Tips 👍😍🍄🍄🍄🍄
Hey Buddy, good job and coodoes to the harvest. The more area you cut.. the more mushrooms you get.. just you might not get the third flush. But way better mass.
Nice... thanks for sharing
Very welcome!
i think the flap causes a micro climate which the pins love, its the same idea as covering tubs of cubensis with foil or wax paper to cause a micro climate and a massive pinset
Love your videos!
Is there a reason why most shiitake blocks I see in fruiting Chambers are completely taken out of the bag? Do they have a different process than other mushrooms? I thought that removing the bag entirely tends to dry out the substrate.
Awesome!! I'm currently doing bucket tek, and I'm wondering if I do a long cut on the bucket and try to simulate this achievement.
Sweet !
thank you
So you have realised that cutting a SMILE 😃 into the side of the bags makes them happier and grow more........
Hope you all feel very grounded haha 😄 !!!
Haha genius 😆
Will you/do you address the volume vs weight sales strategy somewhere else? I'm going through a ton of your videos rn, and have watched a few in the past, but I'm really curious about this!
I tape my first flush cut closed using packing tape & cut open the back side for flush #2.
Wow! I've actually visited the Desert Moon farm in Vegas and the owners are geniuses! They're also some of the nicest people ever. They are more than happy to help and just basically awesome people all around. Great job on implementing their techniques!
They are very good people, and very open about how they do things. Exactly the kind of attitude we need in the community.
Curious about the 2nd flush technique if you can share some
How do you breed lions mane for larger flushes? Do you put spores to agar and select healthiest sectors and put to spawn or do you clone to agar from a large fruit and select healthiest sectors and put to spawn. Still waiting on that sterilizer trough video :)
Nice work 👍 one question though do you have any issues with mold growth on the wood supports for your shelves
That looks like treated wood. Which would help combat that
But I'm not sure if that's the only answer. 🤷♂️
Andrew, which particular unicorn bags do you use? We're having issues with pinning in the bag before full colonization. Thanks!
So with such a big cut and how do you keep it from drying out the substrate? I guess the answer is you’ve got a really great system set up in your grow room. I am a hobby grower this stuff is growing in my house in a small corner in the room. I’m wondering if the results would be the same for me or if I would lose a block because of dehydration.
With the U cut we leave a flap that helps maintain a micro climate around the bag as well as a good humidity system in your grow will help as well!
Do you think lions mane will benefit from this as well? Thanks for sharing!
I’m n middle Tennessee, but I’ll move if I’ll make enough for a 1 bedroom apartment. I wanted to grow mushrooms and what’s the best way to learn then hands on.
Can you make a video on your process of how to pasteurized substrate in bulk? Maybe a cheaper barrel steamer or horse trough steamer diy option
I'll see what I can do.
@@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial I love your videos!
Hi Andrew, thanks for the video. I've been trying to increase my yield playing around with different surface areas to expose. You're getting great results there. What temps are you running to get those flushes, please? Do you keep the same temp morning and night? Cheers.
The temps fluctuate in the grow rooms throughout the day but we have our hvac set at 64F.
@@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial thanks so much.
I would like to see side by side comparisons, the way you used to do it, next to the new way. Without something like that, it's hard to know, what to think.
Hi Andrew! Thanks for the video! Have you spoken to dessert moon mushrooms about sharing their method on upping their second flush? I was thinking of injecting sterile water into the block after harvesting the first flush with the vaccine gun. Don’t know if it will work. Thanks again for the video.
quick tip for homegrowers without a fruiting chamber.
you need to have a very high relative humidity in your air or your block will dry out with this cut.
without a real fruitingchamber with a fogger this will not work well.
Do they need water spray also? Or if it's humidity level is ok than it don't need water spray?
Do you care to share how you increase the second flush now? Since it’s been a few months
Does higher yield mean the substrate is being drained of nutrients more quickly? Less flushes?
there is a ratio of surface area exposed to fresh air (the hole/cut) to size of block you should run. These guys are using large 11-15lb blocks which means they need a much large surface area to get high 1st yields compared to what they were doing previously. So yes, less flushes and generally less overall total yield combine with less efficient use of substrate, but the increase in yield for first flush is worth the lower efficient for the vast majority of most farms and there are not many bothering with more than the 1st & 2nd flush anyways.
It would be interesting to see if their average cap size got a bit smaller for these guys in the coming weeks as this is normally the case when you go from small to large holes.
@@quadlawnmowerman Yes, looks like we're getting slightly smaller caps, but way bigger clusters overall.
@@quadlawnmowerman I was wondering "why not cut both ends of the bags and get twice as much?". But you answered my question. Block size determines the cut
@@quadlawnmowerman Took me a few weeks to fully understand your response... I really appreciate the info bud!
cheers!
I am very grateful that this Dude is not performing brain surgery on me.
Please i need grey oyster or blue oyster mushroom tissue culture for warmer temp or hot weather
What size bags are you using?
Hey Andrew, great video! have you actually weighed a good amount of bags and compared to the previous cuts to see if this really increased yield? no offence but it seems to simple, plenty of people even myself have at one point or another cut this way and i think the consensus was bigger pinset but smaller mushrooms or worse just more pins that end up aborting wasting energy. I'll try it again though, maybe the key is the little flap of plastic to shield them but think i already tried this at some point or another.
Btw why are some of your bags not fully colonised, i know that they are on a schedule but what is generally the case? bad mixing, low spawn rate, bags too hot, contam, etc?
The bags aren't fully grown in because we stick to the schedule and we had a new guy being trained in shaking bags. Many of those basically were top spawned until he learned better.
I'll say I thought all the same things until I tried again. It's proving to be a yield increaser over the smaller squares big time.
@@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial good to know, i'll try it out again then!
Well Andrew, I'm in Scottsboro Alabama now; I moved down from Washington. Would it be possible to come by and say hello sometime? I'd consider the drive to be worth it. Maybe I could pay you for your time like a consultation but come in person instead? Let me know, I'd love to come visit.
I've had my first encounter with cockroaches. Captured one little bugger last night crawling on me...lol. He's in a jar now. I captured a second one but it managed to mysteriously escape by the morning....Couldn't help but think back to your videos on raising feeder insects for birds/fish.
🍄🍄🍄👍 thanks idol
lol that ending wtf🤣
Do we need to do a consultation in order to have access to the discord?
That, or a less expensive option is to join our Patreon!
The bags are cutted in the side or the bottom
the sides.
An x cut on our Chestnuts serves us pretty well
GOAT mix for oysters?
Yes
Remove one whole side of the bag depending where you want it to go
I'm looking for a mossy creek promo code. I have to purchase the same genetics I just bought and didn't get to use because my son lost them(most likely threw them away)
Ouch! We do have promo codes with our Patreon.
@@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial the $3 one will do it?
So I’m looking to do a mentor ship
Happy to have you come for one. You can schedule it right from our website!
why are you fruiting some bags that are only half colinized?
I noticed this as well and I wonder if it is a pink oyster thing. I get pinning before the entire bag is colonized. Albeit his bags were poorly mixed with his grain spawn.
Did you say you guys are hiring in the eastern Sierras?
Lol, Eastern Tennessee. Didn't mean to get your hopes up.
@@mycominer I was picturing a life of being a full time mushroom grower and fly fishing on the weekends 😂 …
@@Behind_enemy_lines_25 If you can envision it, you can make it reality ;)
@@Behind_enemy_lines_25 Tons of fly fishing out here too!
Wouldn't the mycelium run out faster?
Yes, but if you get your return on investment faster it doesn't matter if the mycelium depletes faster.
how to find your Discord?
Through supporting our Patreon or doing a consult/mentorship with us!
My mushroom blocks(mycelium) turned yellow and hot infested.... Ugggg
Ooof, sad day.
Im in colorado 🥺🥺😔
It's the 02
For sure it's the o2 that causes the initial pinning, but I don't think it's necessarily the o2 that supports the overall yield. Unless I'm missing your point?
Hang on... wait... you sell by volume? How does that even work?
I mean, liquid is sold by volume. And even liquid is determined by weight. 1L = 1kg. (Even if you are going by ounces, ounces are determined by it's conversion from kg)
Mushrooms are the weirdly shaped.
I can understand the convenience of measuring something like flour by volume in baking. But I never would. There is no consistency.
Sorry to go off on a tangent here.
When I purchase mushrooms, of any kind, yes, I buy them by collecting the volume I want for the dishes I know I want to make that week. But to know how much I am going to pay, there has to be some way of measuring it.
How do???
Think of a box as a measuring cup.
Fun fact! The discord was originally free to join, now he's charging! Always a salesman and never a mycologist.
We quickly got over ran with people that weren't interested in really working with mushrooms. The discord became a mess for a while. We as a community asked for a way to reduce the influx of not so serious people (to put it politely). Since Andrew tied discord to his Patrion, which cost basically nothing, we no longer have to deal with random internet riff Raff.
We hope you join the community Terry, we'd love to have you.
All too correct!, and thanks @Jesse Campbell for responding before I had a chance to. Terry, your insult might have worked better if I didn't consider it a compliment to basically be called a business man first and never a mycologist!
@@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial hey at least you admit your not a mycologist. Facts are not meant as insults.
I know you have more secrets
Brotger I told you on Instagram to cut your bags more like 3 months ago.
First
Doesn’t matter about sharing, if you grow and you have not experimented w different cuts, shuld you be given a tip????!!! ComeOn Now
Eric, I'm not sure who told you we haven't experimented with different cuts. That said, I give people lots of tips whether they've experimented or not. Open source doesn't mean holding back from those you consider beneath you. Though that said, I don't look at other growers as beneath me, so maybe that's the difference?
I am from India and i am very interested in the job, i am fascinated by mushrooms and have a deep interest in mycology. As a company, can you sponsor my visa ?
You've been growing mushrooms commercially for this long and you're just not figuring this out? Dang I wouldn't have told that