Byrna HD or Mission TPR or PepperBall TCP which one you should buy? (Subscribe👍)
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- My thoughts facts and opinion on Byrna HD Mission TPR PepperBall TCP. Tried my best to give as much information and hope this video helps you.
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DISCLAIMER :
FEDERAL LAW STATES THAT THESE CO2 / HPA POWERED DEVICE’S ARE NOT CONSIDERED A FIREARM.
PLEASE CHECK WITH YOUR LOCAL AND STATE LAW’S
My video’s are intended for instructional and educational purposes. If used in any manner may lead to arrest even prison. Any one who wishes to own a Less lethal or None Lethal must check with your local Law’s and Dude Less Lethal is solely not responsible for any psychical injury, harm or damage to any use of theses Device’s.
Made error in the video the T8.1 magazine 8+1
Here’s Part2
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TPR AND TCP ARE BOTH NITROGEN COMPATIBLE FOR COLD WEATHER
My thoughts facts and opinion on Byrna HD Mission TPR PepperBall TCP. Tried my best to give as much information and hope this video helps you.
PLEASE BUY WHAT YOU REALLY WANT.
To purchase Byrna HD and get discount click on link byrna.com/?rfsn=3954026.3ab050&.3ab050
To purchase Mission TPR click on the link shop.missionlesslethal.com?sca_ref=433046.kray5QSlOp
To purchase PepperBall TCP g22tech.com/collections/frontpage/products/pepperball-tcp-consumer-kit-plus-extra-projectile-refill
Grimburg Less Lethal grimburg.me/shop/
If you receive info on the mission #compact please let us know bruh..
@@Elevated_Faded sure thing
You are obviously unaware of your status or you wouldn't be talking about concealment but hey,
Great video I was hoping to see some empirical action but
I end up satisfied with
The exception of the slight
Unconstitutional approach
@@Trustee-of-The-Most-High i make these video for viewers that wanna know about the device’s. Its very specific market. I answered some questions that i been getting asked frequently.
@@dudelesslethal6910 there's no need for concealment in the united States of America.
Neglect upon it would be given aid to the enemy and we don't want any American paying for treason
As an security officer that deal with aggressive crack heads and bums I will will have to purchase one of these asap. This is the best video on these three guns on youtube right now.
Which one you getting. I’m thinking byrna
I’m getting the byrna
Absolutely buy
Bryna XL.!!!
I worked for Tippmann when the Tipx was designed and launched. Tippmann is the most reliable paintball gun on tge market. So your TPR is pretty much the same exact gun just a few modifications to shoot less than lethal. Best quality, best customer service, easy to use gun.
This is it man. This is the most useful video on RUclips of the three main (and best) options, for compact devices. Thanks a lot, and great job!
Excellent videos, everytime DUDE LESS LETHAL. Keep up the good work and stay safe out there.
Great video as always, tons of information. The byrna Works wonderful for concealed carry. I think the mission with the byrna pepper rounds is the way to go for home defense. I like the pepperball TCP but I cannot get over having to engage that CO2 During a stressful situation.
Yes Still iffy on the TCP magazine inserting properly and the puncturing of the CO2. However, much respect to the service department. They are quick responsive.
A 9mm 45 AR-15 357 will do a away better job then these pepper balls. If someone is trying to harm me I'm not gonna give them a easy way out I'm gonna make them fight for there life just like how they make me fight for mine so my 45 bullets will do that job for me not pepper balls
Go use a pepper ball on someone that is trying to kill u see what happens then use a 45 in the same case and empty the full clip in there chest and see what happens I bet u walk away better knowing they are dead then to walk away with them only being hit with pepper balls I for one like them not coming back for more so me shooting them with real bullets and them dying is better then them coming back to possibly kill me. Non lethal weapons is never an alternative to a real gun only fools or scared people carry non lethal weapons.
@@rcnative4988 How about Hey Fool! Maybe some people can't own a firearm. Ya ever think about that......
@@rcnative4988 There's a huge gray area where you don't want to kill someone who is harassing or threatening or attacking you. But since you can only think in black & white, I guess you'll just keep sounding like a know it all for the rest of your life.
TCP requires twisting the bottom wing nut to activate the CO2 cannister. Not ideal in situations where sudden firing is required. Sure you can puncture ahead of time but it will slowly leak and might be empty by the time you need it.
Only thing holding it back
You gotta do it at the right time that's the only thing about that problem
The exact video I've been looking for. Thank you sir.
upgrades are available for byrna
Excellent review Sir...I did a lot of research myself before ordering a launcher.. there is one key element that you left out about Byrna.. you can reuse the CO2 cartridge until it's empty firing multiple magazines.. which in turn will save money.. I went with Byrna and I'll tell you why.. it's the best looking.. it's cheaper.. it's the more compact.. has a wide range of compatible accessories.. reusable CO2 cartridges.. and the chemical agent is almost three times more powerful.. comes in a wide variety of colors and even vinyl wraps
What do you mean "reusable" CO2 cartridges?
@@kendallevans4079 I think he means you don't need to swap CO2 cartridges between magazines. Also it doesn't pierce the CO2 until you use it so you can keep it loaded until you need it. I have a Byrna SD and I've found it to be very effective when shooting it using both the Kinetic rounds and the Eco rounds since I'm not shooting Pepperballs at targets. I do have a magazine that is loaded with three pepperballs and two Kinetic rounds on the top so that if they don't get the message from the kinetic rounds I can hit them with three pepperballs Max rounds.
Also he's wrong about the fps on the Byrna as I've gotten 300fps when shooting the Kinetic round. He likes to shoot rubber rounds which are heavier and are not designed for the Byrna. Byrna even says not to use rubber rounds as they are not smooth like the Kinetic rounds that Byrna manufactures for their launchers so that slows down the fps.
@@Joreel Thx for that. I think that is a good idea what you've done with the 2 kinetic/3 pepper....that's a good combo.
Great info .i got the tpr for my home defense.im just waiting on the compact version .ill buy it as soon as it’s available...I really appreciate your videos.thanks
I use my Byrna HD for carry in woods due to range and can use pepper balls and hard balls so can work on people and critters. JPX 4 is my edc for self defense against people and dogs.
Sounds like the summary is : Byrna for concealed carry, TPR for home defense, and TCP for mods, decent size, and adjustability...and also first strike round capable
What does "mods" mean?
@@JD-kf2ki modifications
Bro your blowing up✓ Congrats you deserve it and more. Keep up the great job.
The TCP give me the most accurate and reliable for me. The First strike style projectiles can go out as far as 150 feet with a rifled barrel. And has the option of C02 or N20 for power in my opinion and works great for me.
The TPR can be modded to take a remote line since the guts are a TiPX. It can also be modded to take First Strike rounds.
Ended up getting both an FSC and TCP. The FSC can be modded to take HPA while the TCP can't.
one of the best videos I have seen on these devices.
I bought the Byrna HD, still waiting on delivery, good video
I received my Byrna yesterday. Still haven't tried it yet. But, it feels good on my hip, concealed of course. More information to follow for those that make be thinking about the purchase.
@@RighteousIndignation2Q24
I just ordered mine today, I hope they ironed out the issues I've been reading on this comments section, that have been submitted 5,6 months ago.
Other youtubers should take lessons from you on how to do a review. Excellent communicator.
Perfectly said💯
except 999.99$ and 799.99 instead of 1000 and 800.
Also so many numbers, can you wrote it instead of talking ffs?
each product is good for its own merits, I just wish the quality didn't have such a heavy price. I for one have a walther ppq in .43 with riot balls, just for conceal carry mind you. The only reason I choose that is because of the price point, its concealable and built in good quality. I also use it as a training tool for in home target practice. If i had the money I probably would have gone with the byrna for its compact size.
Really loving the Tipx so far, can’t wait till my FSC arrives. Pre tuned, all the goodies…
Much love y’all and the whole less lethal community…
Modern Combat Sports is working on an adapter that lets you attach a HPA buttstock on the TiPX/TPR. If it works, you'll be able to shoot over 20 Grimburg JUL rounds or more with a large capacity HPA tank. Stick a box mag with 200 rounds in there and image the damage!
FYI: If you have a 12 gauge shotgun, you can shoot bean bag, rubber ball and pepper ball rounds out of it. And then you can also shoot the real thing out of it.
42k views
Good for you man
I remember when it was 5 views
Good job
You can definitely do a plus one in the chamber on the Mission TiPX, I do it all the time.
I bought the Byrna LE and it’s a beast puncture co2 on safety and that first round is well over 400fps right out of the box.
Thanks for this video, I've been waiting on a FOID card for 6 freakin months. So I want to get something in the mean time. Just bought the TCP, great review of these three!
Make sure you see part2
@@dudelesslethal6910 Awesome! Looking for practice projectiles, any recommendation other than the Pepperball brand Inert Practice Projectiles,, anything cheaper+more quantity? I did check the Byrna practice projectiles, but sold out everywhere and shipping is pretty pricey direct from them. Thanks for the help!
You DID answer my question which one is better for me! I think these are great bc there's no hesitation to use it. And you can always follow up.
Good thinking. I love it
Pepperball all the way. Hands down.
Man you are the maaan love the description thank you
I'm glad I can just buy the Byrna at a store instead of having to deal with their customer service definitely worth the price tho
I was browsing the burnout website and saw issues with customer service, what particularly was yours and what sort of store sells these? I'm in Minnesota and appreciate the ability to return it easily also
@@GreenCanvasInteriorscape What is burnout website?
Not sure, twas a while back & my voice transcription might have been wonky
But i think i meant Byrna
BYRNA HAS AN ADAPTER TO USE 12 AIR.
Also there is a pluse 2 adaptor for 7 rounds!
Not sure why anyone would spend more on the Mission when you could get the TipX cheaper, its the exact same gun and it has a external Allen nut to adjust the power. I had no idea the Mission was missing this feature and now I'm really glad I got the TipX. If anyone is thinking about getting the Mission, get the TipX instead. It can easily be cranked up to make more power than the Mission which has the power setting fixed at the factory. Believe me, adjustable power is a nice thing to have. Tune it the way you like it.
What ever happened to DLL? You have the best channel and delivery style over anyone else on RUclips. Come back Dude! Hopefully everything is OK in your world.
P.S. less-than-lethal market is HOT. You need to stay in it.
I’ve used the TPR and the Byrna and when it comes to reliability and jammed free, TPR ALL THE WAY FOR ME.👍
A comparison video like this one with the "long guns" you have such as the Milsig-17, Pepperball VKS, Pepperball TAC-SF, and the Mission Less Lethal TCR would be very helpful.
I got the
Pepperball TCP -.68 cal
(made by First strike)
As the main Handgun
8 gram Rubber Bullet And Ball
And a Back up pistol -
- .43 cal Walter PPQ
4gram rubber/ pvc bullet
AND FOR RIFLE -
The. - - Valken M17-a2. .68 cal
8 great Rubber Bullet
Best Full Auto Rifle out
Excellent summary! I own a First Strike Compact (same as the PepperBall TCP) and I´m happy with it. Just don´t screw up the velocity too high or the gun gets a bit finicky. Take your time and adjust accordingly.
Byrna 12% pepper is all good. The others have more capacity but less % pepper
You do realize that they all have the same czliber right?
You can simply get the byrna pepperballs and use them in every other launcher.
LiveX
Any thoughts on the Sabre SL-7? New sub also! Very thorough video and comparisons 👍
Byrna can shoot more shots with one co2 cartridge. You conveniently leave that out. With the others you have more shots per clip but less shots per Co2.
Very thorough video. I have the TCP, but I need something that I can conceal easily. I have ordered a Byrna which is on a 10 week back order.
it took me close to 5 mos, 6/10 - 10/30/20, to get mine
@@dubyuellem7534 wow...that's way too long.
@@dubyuellem7534 Does the gun function properly?
@@Caricature1 YES, well made, looks intimidating (black model) easy to load, shoot. U can keep a magazine & cannister loaded & it can sit indefinitely til u need to use it.
@@Caricature1 any malfunctions you've seen on RUclips have been attributed to the user mistakenly adding a Plus one round. You can only have five rounds loaded in the Byrna at any time. If you mistakenly add a 6th round or load a full 5 round mag while one is "chambered" , it will malfunction. Byrna warns this in the owners manual.
Pretty good video. You did share some interesting information. However, I don’t understand why you didn’t at least include a short chronograph shooting video to see the comparison that backs up your claims of each product’s consistency. I too have a TIPX that I modified with an 8” Killhouse barrel, swapped the TIPX valve for the TCR valve, installed the Exalt ambidextrous magazine release, and installed a CMP-18 body kit from MCS that comes with a fold out stock and also allows me to mount an RMR site on the top rails and a nice size fold out front grip on the bottom of the TIPX rails. I still haven’t installed the first strike breach I bought because I’m searching for TIPX mags converted to first strike mags. However, that may get delayed a bit longer until I can successfully find a first strike breach that can chamber the slightly bigger first strike pepper rounds. I haven’t had the luxury to purchase the other markers so I can make any comparison the way you have. Which is why I search for such information hoping someone produces a video on the subject. Nevertheless, thanks for sharing. Hope to see you put out more such video. 👍
I will start by saying I own an umarex HDP with upgraded valve kit. That said this video doesn't capture a few things regarding the Byrna. 12g cartridges can be used with the extension kit and the ready to go aspect for shooting is superior to the TCP where you have to twist the cartridge screw IMO. Also amping up TCP to shoot the 12g cartridges should consider upgrading the o rings to sustain the presure if you are increasing velocity. The TPR looks so big to weild..... I'll stick to my Umarex HDP with 400+ FPS upgrade kit that has the best cartridge activation mechanism, just tap the bottom of the grip.
I like less lethal because I don't wish to kill anyone so I might sub to you. I do however want an option that is lethal if need be that is not considered a Firearm ( defined by the ATF as a projectile weapon that is powered by an explosive) that is powered by other means say electricity as in a coil/gauss gun or rail gun so it doesn't have to be licensed registered of even known by anyone you have it.
U answered all my questions I was gonna get the sabre but am hoping as you say they release the smaller version is kinda
Big but tested as powerful great 👍 video
Excellent info, thank you.
I HOPE EVERY ONE READ THE POST ABOUT BYRNA THEY CONTINUE TO TAKE ORDERS THEY ARE UNABLE TO FILL I HAVE TWO LAUNCHERS NO AMMO BEEN WAITING PLACED ORDER IN JUNE AND THEY HAVE THE NERVE TO SEND A EMAIL HOW MUCH THEY MADE IN LAST QUARTER..
that's nuts
What the fuck. I wanted to get one but so much bad news surrounding it.
The launcher itself came pretty fast but all the rest accessory products come so slow
@@dudelesslethal6910 how long did it take for your burner to come in the mail did it take six months like everyone says that should be the first thing you say about it
Great review dude. Thanks!
Great video as always & Thanks for this video!
I ordered the byrna HD but I'm having second thoughts because of the amount of people who said they received a defective one. Plus it's about 2 months back ordered
i saw a video,, i'll try to find it in my history,, someone said in the comments that byrna has corrected the issues,, we'll see
@@woofman4796 I got mine already. Took about 3 weeks. Not defective and way stronger than I was expecting. I recommend it 👌
@@Pittsburgh-412 we found ours on a site called grabagun, ordered this morning, it's just after 6pm here in florida, wife just got a confirmation email from fedex,, be here this saturday the 8th,
@@woofman4796 nice
@@Pittsburgh-412 how much have you shot it?? Do you really think it's worth the price?? I'm not able to buy a gun due to poor decisions as a young adult but I'm looking for an effective way to legally protect myself. I'm not rolling in dough so this is a big purchase for me. I would love to hear what you have to say.
I wish the byrna HD had the co2 in the magazine, it it did I think it would be the best overall.
Not with a fixed velocity lower than 200 no it's not
@@Elevated_Faded I agree. The Byrna is way overpriced, fragile, under powered and overly complex. It is also unreliable and not user serviceable . It is a poor choice.
@@Elevated_Faded i thought he said only the first shoots below 200 if you're shooting and breaking the seal? He says it was shooting 280-285 fps.
285FPS most i got. The only time you get 200 to 180 FPS is when you fire first round at same time puncturing the co2. If you puncture co2 first and take safety off your shot will be 280is to 285 but dips to 250ish and goes up and down.
@@dudelesslethal6910 okay that makes sense, what I'm more worried about is whether or not that will consistently break the ball hitting someone. I saw a video where a guy tested it on a pumpkin and the balls weren't breaking.
Awesome presentation. Most informative. Thank you.
TCP FOR SURE !
Boy....alots changed in 2 years. Lots of innovative aftermarket items for the SD/HD forcing Byrna to Step up too or loose out
I have Byner accurate 60 ft love it pepper and tear gas balls great
Great video! Since the Byrna is the best for carrying, but it is unreliable, what is the second best option for carrying? I consider a colorful toy-like weapon to not be optimal, so which option is more reliable and is also available in all black?
Tippman Tipx has all the options build in
@@leonardclark9128 a bit harder to conceal though
I’m a big guy I carry my fsc appendix with a wire retainer so it’ll rest deep instead of sticking in my gut, I get zero print but if I wear a longer coat I’ll carry under my shirt at my 9 o clock (lefty) still itw
And you can use shape projectiles with tcp
Byrna hands down
Thanks for the video bud!
Very helpful
🍻
Thank you for the video! My husband and I are trying to decide between the Mission and TCP. What modifications, if any, would be needed on both launchers to use the Grimburg HP68 projectiles? Appreciate your help!
ruclips.net/video/uYocTaeDARw/видео.html
This is the video for how to modify the TCP/FSC launchers to shoot h
HP68.
@@superstallion97 That’s a big help. Thank you! Can the Mission be used with the HP68 or does it need modified too?
ruclips.net/video/UQTJfAcZQPM/видео.html
This is the video on how to modify the TPR/TipX for HP68 or first strike rounds.
I bought the Byrna
Nicely done. Everything I wanted to know. Thanks.
You're super helpful. Thank you man.
Mission TPR is a No-Brainer regardless of the size. This will be my choice for non-lethal weapon. Hopefully, Mission TPR will come in a compact or Concealed Carry in the near future with the same 12 gram CO2 cartridge. That would be the ultimate CCW. 💯💯😁😁👍👍
Thanks, this was helpful!
Thanks for the thorough unbiased review. Do you know the specs of the compact TPX? Same velocity? Round apacity? 12g CO2? Different features? Release date? Thanks.
Just saw on another video the unreliability of the Byrna and not responding to questions. They would send a new one in a short time, but after 2 months no response.
Love the mission, would it come in yellow too?
Great review, brother! Quick question: with the TPR and the TCP, do they have a carry holster for outdoor carry like the Byrna?? I know they are a bit larger, but, unfortunately, I am incredibly disappointed on the lack of power on the Byrna
@roadbully384 I don't know about the TPR but the TCP definitely does have a carry holster I purchase one myself not to long ago and you will love the results
Out of all the videos i have seen...yours was what i was looking for with a comparison...you just need some human subjects to show us the pain factor...
we just ordered a byrna this morning,, may 5, 2021
Just saw this kind of device today. Great concept & worth having! Glad I ran into this video before I went for the first one I saw. Thorough evaluation👍
Better to say a solid number than all the ninety nines.
i like the Mission Tpr but I am concerned about its size. its sooo big and not concealable .
loved to have one of them first strike guns
Very imformative, thanks!
Can't wait to get one
I have a Umarex T4E HDR-50, similar to those pistols.
Nice
I am most concerned about reliability. You should do a long term round count and count failures. I need it to work every time
I can't attest to the Byrna, but the other two guns are tried and tested paintball guns that have had a long standing reputation for reliability.
We have a few local cops carrying the Byrna instead of a Taser.
Damn good video. I like your videos. Could you use the different Byrna ammunition in the Mission TPR?
Yes
@@dudelesslethal6910 Thank you for your response. I was looking for an article or video online that compared all 3 of the pepperball guns and whala, you did one on it. Big thanks to you man and keep up the good work.
Yeah like the the more lethal pepper balls in the byrna.
That’s nice bro 🤙
GREAT VIDEO! Thank you!!!
Great video dude….
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Which had the nicest trigger pull?
Byrna HD has upgrades available now.
yup a 12 gram co2 extender
What’s your favorite of these 3?
I have all of those guns so funny addicted.
Yo dude, at timestamp 3:24, the BYRNA does take 12 oz co2. You purchase the adapter that you attached to the launcher.
At the time of the video, this adapter wasn't available. I preordered mine in May 2021 and received it late July 2021.
How come you didn't tell us which one is the best? Clearly the title on your video says which one should you buy.
The best depends on your specific needs. I've found the Byrna to be the best all around one of the three he talked about, but that's just me.
Hey Dude been a while hope all is well. Hoping you will do some videos with all the new Byrna products coming out man.
Please please advice me. If attacked by a mob, which one of the three would perform the best??
Nobody mentions the fact that in a defense situation you probably won’t have time to screw in the first strike you would have to Pierce it and keep it ready and then waste it later
PepperBall TCP looks like the Kingman Training (Chaser\Eraser) paintball pistol.
Seems to be very unreliable! Was getting ready to purchase until I saw all the Bad reviews and Horrible customer service.
Any comparisons with the Umarex pistol and revolver. Am really interested to know 😎
Thanks a bunch! Wondering if you know some details. Are the Tippmann Tipx, mission less lethal, salt supply, and Sabre launcher all the exact same? If I were to find any one of them a bit cheaper would it perform the same as all the others? The only difference I have found online is the Tipx has adjustable velocity but the other launchers look like they would have it too but they don’t mention it. Also, I am in California so velocity would matter a lot to me since I believe I cannot use pepper balls here... is that correct? Thanks so much again! Very useful video!
Tipx salt sabre have adjustable velocity but you will need a chronograph which is another $100 then you have to adjust it or save $100 go to local paintball shop and have them adjust for you. Which is cheaper. You can buy the Mission TPR its already done for you at 330FPS and comes with impact projectiles. You would have to modify it to make it adjustable. Cali not allowed PepperBall if you decide to purchase TPR please use my link thank you.
@@dudelesslethal6910 thanks! Does that mean that all the Tipx-based guns are default set to 330? Thanks so much!!
@@mihouser salt 320 tpr 330 the tipx roughly 260 to 280ish sabre i dont know.
@@dudelesslethal6910 oh interesting so they set them at different levels depending on who is selling them? Interesting. So the Tipx you would need to just crank it all the way up to achieve the 330 of the TPR? Have you tested all these and that’s how you know? Thank you again. Really helpful!!
@@dudelesslethal6910 kind of bummed here that California doesn't allow pepper ball. That's one of the main reasons why I would want to get one of these. That's one of the bummers of living in the country of California. We apparently don't care about anybody else's rules just ours.😎
I bought a Byrna and it was defective after 1st magazine cycled, barrel jammed had to send it in for repair.
Nice Video
It is adjustable on the byrna
If I run up on you and you pull out any of these..I'm not going to Stand there and try to figure out if this is going to end well for me 🤔💯
Not true the Byrna can be upgraded to a 12g co2 cart.