One thing to note regarding the "twist" function of the magazine is that you can remove the magazine to reload without losing much CO2. While I am not aware if the competitors can do that too, I like being able to use up to two additional reloads before losing much pressure and having to change out the cartridge.
Mine was also manufactured 11/18. Batch buddies! Really impressed with this launcher, it is really big in my hands - dwarfs my Byrna SD - but it does pack a punch. I know people like their slap punctures but the feedback a twist puncture provides is still really good and helps you confirm positive pressure inside the launcher. I don't think one is inherently better than the other, and like you said in the video, you do need to be practicing with your launchers either way.
I took my Sabre apart to look inside. It's held together with 6 allen head screws. There are only a few springs to watch out for. I was going to dye it but then realized the pan I dyed my HDR50 was too small. I reassemble the launcher and will get a larger disposable pan tomorrow.
Did you end up getting it done. I dyed mine black today. Had a little bit of trouble getting it back together but it appears to function as it should. The back safety makes a click when I press on it now, I can’t remember if it did before.
@Dadulting Yes, I dyed it. Looks and works great. There is no sound with the back safety, only when I pull the trigger when not loaded I hear a click. As long as it works it should be fine.
Another cool video,brother. For the price point,it looks like a solid launcher for those on a budget needing a less than lethal defense option. The sights and grip safety are nicely designed. The twist to pierce is ok, just take’s practice, or leave on night stand until ready. I am not loving the yellow. I can understand in those certain States, I don’t live in one of them. So if I ever purchased one, it would be part of the house security set up, or if I ever had to visit one of those States. Still, I like it.
I cant belive amazon took my order after so many times of not shipping this kind of item!! I have made volume knob like add ons for my twisters. NOW... are you going to take it apart?😃
I've said from Day 1 of having my Byrna that groin and knee shots are always on the table. The head I'm a little hesitant about because head shots are hard to make under stressful situations as well as hard to hit when the person is moving. As a vet you know what I'm talking about from your own combat training. If you can make the shot, go for it, but center mass and legs are much easier to hit. That Saber look great and it'll be interesting to see it dyed a more subtle color if you go that route 😋
We had 3 criminals break into a home in Rochester, NY last week. They were armed with knives and a gun. The homeowner ended up repelling the attack with a knife and put one of the attackers into critical care. I am 100 percent for trying to preserve life and reduce injury as everyone is someone's son/daughter. However, unless you train frequently and for multiple scenarios, you're going to take head, groin, spine; whatever strikes present themselves. As Jon said, Sabre is doing a legal CYA by including that info about what areas on the human body to avoid.
Ipower walk early in the mornings, will this launcher fit any normal holsters? Or is there a custom-built holster for this launcher? I think I would prefer this over my current 9 mm EDC .
For a less lethal home defense launcher looks like a good deal, the large size, bright color all work toward that, easy find, easy grab, and some cop won't shot you thinking it's a real gun. Why anyone would want to carry this edc is beyond me when pepper spray is more convenient, but to each his own. If you sign up for their news letter on the site, you get a discount code, or at least I did.
I do. Its more a matter of internals and build quality. Byrna, Grimburg, Pavashot, Paradigm, PepperBall, and Umarex take a lot of care to build good products. Unfortunately, with quality and innovation comes a cost.
Hi John, Great vid ! What caliber is the SABRE? IF 50 0r 68, will it fire other .50 or .68 caliber plastic bullets? Thank You ! FMR Intelligence Officer
Greetings! Thanks man! The Sabre is a .68 cal and so far I’ve tested the plastic, polymer, aluminum, and pepper rounds through it and they’ve all fired perfectly. :-)
I've been thinking about getting a pepperball launcher as a replacement for my taser (I just can't afford $40 per shot) on my security duty gear. Aside from the size, this looks like a reasonable option. I actually like the yellow, since for professional purposes, having my less lethal look very different from my firearm is a good thing. That said I'm currently most interested in the Pepperball TRP for size and ease of integration into an already heavy loadout. However I'll definitely be interested to see if Sabre comes out with a more compact version of this system at its much more affordable price.
I'm glad you pointed out the benefits of not being gun colored. Less chance of police or suspects confusing it for a gun. Also, having a million people ask you what model of gun your taser is gets old.
is there any other magazine that's compatible in it? i like how its very similar to the XD/XDM pistols but with that puncture set up i consider it only a secondary home defence option
New to this. So does this mean the c02 cartridge is single use? Or does it somehow seal when removing the magazine? I only ask because having separate areas for the cartridge and pepper balls means can be loaded and used again like the Byrna and umarex p2p hdp? Just trying to make sure I understand before picking something up.
Greetings, No, on one C02 you will see 14-20 shots on this launcher. The C02 isnt punctured until you are ready to use it so it will stay ready indefinitely
Hello! I’m not experienced with launchers/firearms in general and am researching self defense options because of some local law changes. Would the SABRE be able to be worn for like concealed everyday carry?
@@AlternateArmsSD yes I figured it out all you have to do is tap the site or push it with your thumb even and slide it down if you want to bring your impact down at the Target I thought there was a tool for that screw on the rear sight you just have to push it and slide it down the ramp
Jon, new to your channel. Great review of this Sabre product. I had been looking at Byrna but love seeing you demonstrate the Sabre product. Can you use the Byrna pepper projectiles and 12gm CO2 cartridges if I wanted to buy them from them and use in the Sabre pepper launcher? Seems like you could since the size is the same and uses 12gm CO2.
@@AlternateArmsSD Thank you! Really enjoy your channel. I noticed on the Byrna website it mentioned that their 12mg CO2 were custom fit to accommodate the Byrna adaptor for their launchers and wasn’t sure if it would work with new Sabre launcher.
kids I really recommend the Sabre , I got my sabre on sale plus a coupon code making it around 80 bucks. I had the grimburg gun and it is cool and powerful but the sabre to me is better and easier to use .
@@AlternateArmsSD Btw if i am not mistaking i see some fluorecent light above your chrono have you ever tried turning it off ? if not try it . Might be causing the high failrate of the chrono gadget time :) lol ruclips.net/video/UQGA8TpCYsg/видео.html
You need to look at Tippmann TiPX Magfed Paintball Pistols No air up need 7 balls 2 mags. its on my night stand 25 meter shot to spot them steeling my cars
Yeah, that’s a dealbreaker for a lot of people. It’s not too bad if you use it situationally. It might be a fantastic launcher to keep in your house in a nightstand, perhaps even in your car or when you’re camping. But if you need quick access, it would require a lot of muscle memory training to deploy it quickly.
the twist puncture is disapointing, but the size and color could be for quick identifying if law enforcement is involved that color is pretty standard to identify as less lethal., if your buying it to bluff a bad guy, that's a bad idea, if its out you should be using it, or don't have it out.
The yellow is the color of less lethal just like the cops who gives a fk your there to use it. I understand about color but with a less lethal that people think it’s a real one. Remember that person can pull the real one be carful
True, however fortunately we don’t live in the gunfight at the OK corral. If you pull the launcher, assume you are in a position where you need it. If you’re firing a high quality pepperball, the target can’t breathe or see. These aren’t a replacement for a firearm, but an option. That being said, some states actually require that you have it in a different color.
@AlternateArmsSD no I haven't I'll look it up. I wanted something with the real feel and look of the real deal. That yellow just looks like a toy and I'm afraid of pulling it out and I get no reaction from the offender. Hopefully I can find something powerful that looks and feels like the real deal. Something with a magazine of sorts. That's why I liked this one.
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I have been waiting for this video. Thank you so much! Enjoy your vacation.
Thanks Brother!
Best video ive seen on them! thank you!
@@FullThrottle-0-100 My pleasure Brother!
The size, color, and twist puncture are deal breakers for me.
It is definitely large, the color, give me time :) As for the twist appears I suspect that was a cost-cutting measure but may change in the future.
I agree
One thing to note regarding the "twist" function of the magazine is that you can remove the magazine to reload without losing much CO2. While I am not aware if the competitors can do that too, I like being able to use up to two additional reloads before losing much pressure and having to change out the cartridge.
Mine was also manufactured 11/18. Batch buddies! Really impressed with this launcher, it is really big in my hands - dwarfs my Byrna SD - but it does pack a punch. I know people like their slap punctures but the feedback a twist puncture provides is still really good and helps you confirm positive pressure inside the launcher. I don't think one is inherently better than the other, and like you said in the video, you do need to be practicing with your launchers either way.
Agreed! And for the price it doesn’t get much better out of the box.
This is a great set of launchers to run head to head. Awesome show brother- every time
Thanks Brother!!
Fair review ! Jon
Thanks man!
I took my Sabre apart to look inside. It's held together with 6 allen head screws. There are only a few springs to watch out for. I was going to dye it but then realized the pan I dyed my HDR50 was too small. I reassemble the launcher and will get a larger disposable pan tomorrow.
Did you end up getting it done. I dyed mine black today. Had a little bit of trouble getting it back together but it appears to function as it should. The back safety makes a click when I press on it now, I can’t remember if it did before.
@Dadulting Yes, I dyed it. Looks and works great. There is no sound with the back safety, only when I pull the trigger when not loaded I hear a click. As long as it works it should be fine.
Its so cool to see these different launchers. Thanks for the data on tbis one brother
My pleasure Brother!
Hey John always keeping us updated Salute bro
Thanks Brother!
Yup definitely needs the quick puncture
Adjustable rear sites hell ya
Yeah man!!
Just brought mine on sale for 130 with tax and everything my total was 158. Definitely worth the money 💯
They are AMAZING for the price!
Have to admit, I’m curious as to how it would handle kinetic rounds
Oh, the tests have only just begun for this one :)
Sabre does sell the Hard rubber and the glass Breaker balls they shoot fine.
What’s a good holster ?
The best Ive found (Aside from their own kydex version) are any holsters designed for the desert eagle.
@@AlternateArmsSD thank you !
@@AlternateArmsSDis it lightweight or very heavy? I purchased one
@@Tom-wl7sm Its very light! Youre going to love it ;)
@@Tom-wl7sm My pleasure
I do armed security and I choosing the saber over the Byra
You simply cant beat it for the price and functionality
Hi what is 7.68 Caliber?
.68 cal on this one.
7 shot capacity magazine and it fires .68 cal approx 17.3mm projectiles !!! ...
Great review as always brother.👍 Super cool and powerful pistol😎💥. Keep up the good work. Cheers from your friend in Norway 😃👍
Thanks Brother!! Stay warm over there!
Another cool video,brother. For the price point,it looks like a solid launcher for those on a budget needing a less than lethal defense option. The sights and grip safety are nicely designed. The twist to pierce is ok, just take’s practice, or leave on night stand until ready. I am not loving the yellow. I can understand in those certain States, I don’t live in one of them. So if I ever purchased one, it would be part of the house security set up, or if I ever had to visit one of those States. Still, I like it.
Agreed! I suspect that the twist to pierce is probably a cost-cutting measure. The price point is crazy though!
You nailed it! I wanted to compare the Le, Salt2 and sabre. Perfect video. The not quick air on the Sabre is a no go for CCW
That’s the only downfall I could find as well…. But it’s a big one.
Another great video, Jon. Thank you-again!
@@user-eb4iq2jw3y thank you so much for watching my channel
Does this marker have a power adjustment? Thanks in advance for any reply
Not that is externally accessible. I haven’t torn it down yet, but I know that some people people already have.
As always, good video. The grip safety sort of reminds me of a 1911 grip safety. Like it. Safe travels, my friend.
Thanks Brother!! Yeah, I got the same vibes :)
Hey thank you it is great
My pleasure man!
Thanks this video helped with my decision
My pleasure man!
Does this shoot round rubber bullets
It can indeed. It can fire rubber, rubber/steel, aluminum, or pepper rounds.
This looks like the one Im gonna purchase after checking out the other ones.
@ before you make your final decision, I would definitely watch my video on the salt supply S2 and possibly the byrna SD.
@@AlternateArmsSD I will look at the SS 2. can you describe to me updates to a gun. What kind of upgrades can be done to an air gun.
I cant belive amazon took my order after so many times of not shipping this kind of item!! I have made volume knob like add ons for my twisters. NOW... are you going to take it apart?😃
Mabey….. :)
Where can I get 17.3mm kinetics? Not 17.1mm or 17.2mm like what you get on Amazon.
Thanks
Hey Brother, those rhodamine round were 17.3. I’ll verify when I get back to town but that number stuck in my head.
I like mine. Some things I don’t like. But I like it.
That’s the feel I got for it as well.
Not sure if it's new or not but I like how you added the joule calculations
Hey brother, do you mean how I added the text to the bottom of the video?
It actually looks like a taser. I hope someone comes out with a quick pierce mag.
I suspect that, due to the popularity of this release, that we will see updates and upgrades soon!
Were you able to fire more than 7 rounds on one co2 cartridge? Interesting launcher for the price
Yes indeed! I was able to fire 14 and was at 240FPS
Do you think you'll take it apart and dye it? I'd like to watch that video.
Oooooohhhh I just might :)
Have you tried the home defense repeating crossbows?
I have been approached in the past for them but I have never tried one.. Do you think folks would dig it?
Is Sabre going to sell extra magazines for this new .68 launcher?
Yes they are. I'm not sure when they will be on Amazon though.
I've said from Day 1 of having my Byrna that groin and knee shots are always on the table. The head I'm a little hesitant about because head shots are hard to make under stressful situations as well as hard to hit when the person is moving. As a vet you know what I'm talking about from your own combat training. If you can make the shot, go for it, but center mass and legs are much easier to hit.
That Saber look great and it'll be interesting to see it dyed a more subtle color if you go that route 😋
Agreed! Yeah, the color needs to be… altered :)
We had 3 criminals break into a home in Rochester, NY last week. They were armed with knives and a gun. The homeowner ended up repelling the attack with a knife and put one of the attackers into critical care. I am 100 percent for trying to preserve life and reduce injury as everyone is someone's son/daughter. However, unless you train frequently and for multiple scenarios, you're going to take head, groin, spine; whatever strikes present themselves. As Jon said, Sabre is doing a legal CYA by including that info about what areas on the human body to avoid.
Ipower walk early in the mornings, will this launcher fit any normal holsters? Or is there a custom-built holster for this launcher? I think I would prefer this over my current 9 mm EDC .
Greets, Its a tad large for most holsters. You might take a look at the Salt Supply S2, Gavle, Or Byrna. They are a tad easier to manage.
Do you know where I can get spare magazines for this new Sabre launcher?
Sabre direct for the moment.. but Im working on that now. Stay tuned.
Any idea when they're putting spare magazines out for sale?
I see they have them on the Sabre website
For a less lethal home defense launcher looks like a good deal, the large size, bright color all work toward that, easy find, easy grab, and some cop won't shot you thinking it's a real gun. Why anyone would want to carry this edc is beyond me when pepper spray is more convenient, but to each his own. If you sign up for their news letter on the site, you get a discount code, or at least I did.
Greetings! Yeah, this ones a tad large for an EDC launcher ;)
Is there any way to make the Sabre faster... what kind of projectiles would you recommend?
@@deanmuhammad Greets! The Grimburg JUL rounds are awesome along with a high quality pepper round.
VERY VERY VERY NICE !!! awesome video my Brother , i want one to tinker with lol !!! OMG !!
Thanks Brother!! Yeah, and CHEAP!
@@AlternateArmsSD ikr !!!
Are there any power mods to be done to the Sabre?
I haven’t actually torn mine apart yet, but it’s on the list of projects for the future :-) so many projects, so little time.
Do you think the Byrna is worth the price? Thank you
I do. Its more a matter of internals and build quality. Byrna, Grimburg, Pavashot, Paradigm, PepperBall, and Umarex take a lot of care to build good products. Unfortunately, with quality and innovation comes a cost.
You also sell these air guns? Like the Sabre you used or do I just go to the internet and google Sabre Air Gun?
@@ronaldmccaferty9700 I have quite a few of them on my website (in the description) but the ones I don’t have, I have a link for you there as well.
can it shoot shape rounds or only balls ? it maybe can fire shaped rounds because it has a rifled barrel ?
That’s a great question.. stay tuned man!
@@AlternateArmsSD story of my life lmao !!!
I got on Amazon and they won't ship the Sabre to Rochester, NY... I lose out again.
Maybe not brother, give me a little time :-)
@AlternateArmsSD Ok.. let me know, maybe I'll be able to get the new $150 Sabre launcher after all.
Hi John, Great vid ! What caliber is the SABRE? IF 50 0r 68, will it fire other .50 or .68 caliber plastic bullets? Thank You ! FMR Intelligence Officer
Greetings! Thanks man! The Sabre is a .68 cal and so far I’ve tested the plastic, polymer, aluminum, and pepper rounds through it and they’ve all fired perfectly. :-)
I've been thinking about getting a pepperball launcher as a replacement for my taser (I just can't afford $40 per shot) on my security duty gear. Aside from the size, this looks like a reasonable option. I actually like the yellow, since for professional purposes, having my less lethal look very different from my firearm is a good thing. That said I'm currently most interested in the Pepperball TRP for size and ease of integration into an already heavy loadout. However I'll definitely be interested to see if Sabre comes out with a more compact version of this system at its much more affordable price.
Greets! Take a look at the Byrna LE or, if they EVER release it, the Grimburg Solstice. They might just fit the bill!
I'm glad you pointed out the benefits of not being gun colored. Less chance of police or suspects confusing it for a gun. Also, having a million people ask you what model of gun your taser is gets old.
Just got mine in today an amazing weapon! Willing to answer all questions 💯
Awesome aren’t they :-)
Can I use pepper balls other than Sabre brand?
Can it be modified to increase power?
@@TomE.G. Yes you can
@@J0HN_3_16 it can indeed
I just ordered one!
Youre going to love it!
is there any other magazine that's compatible in it? i like how its very similar to the XD/XDM pistols but with that puncture set up i consider it only a secondary home defence option
You know, it looks a LOT like the tcp magazine but I don’t have one to try.
@@AlternateArmsSD that's what i thought, it looks about the same size and shape
New to this. So does this mean the c02 cartridge is single use? Or does it somehow seal when removing the magazine? I only ask because having separate areas for the cartridge and pepper balls means can be loaded and used again like the Byrna and umarex p2p hdp? Just trying to make sure I understand before picking something up.
Greetings, No, on one C02 you will see 14-20 shots on this launcher. The C02 isnt punctured until you are ready to use it so it will stay ready indefinitely
Hello! I’m not experienced with launchers/firearms in general and am researching self defense options because of some local law changes. Would the SABRE be able to be worn for like concealed everyday carry?
Greetings and welcome to the family. It’s a tad large. Take a look at the salt supply S2. It’s a bit easier to CC.
@@AlternateArmsSD Thank you!
how do you lower the rear site? It appears the allen does not fit ...IF it is an allen.
It didnt seem to be adjustable.. It did tend to fire a bit high but it was consistent.
@@AlternateArmsSD yes I figured it out all you have to do is tap the site or push it with your thumb even and slide it down if you want to bring your impact down at the Target I thought there was a tool for that screw on the rear sight you just have to push it and slide it down the ramp
So its basically the hipoint of pepperball launchers? Big blocky and ugly but functions about how it should
Hehe Well, thats one way to put it. Id call it an early evolution of a quickly evolving market. We have a ton of COOL launchers coming soon!
They need to make a compact version
I suspect there are a couple on the horizon :)
Please do the Tippman menace or the LTL Alfa 1.50
@@lhandlott I have one on the alpha..I’ll look into the menace
Jon, new to your channel. Great review of this Sabre product. I had been looking at Byrna but love seeing you demonstrate the Sabre product. Can you use the Byrna pepper projectiles and 12gm CO2 cartridges if I wanted to buy them from them and use in the Sabre pepper launcher? Seems like you could since the size is the same and uses 12gm CO2.
Welcome home!! You sure can.
@@AlternateArmsSD Thank you! Really enjoy your channel. I noticed on the Byrna website it mentioned that their 12mg CO2 were custom fit to accommodate the Byrna adaptor for their launchers and wasn’t sure if it would work with new Sabre launcher.
@@SelfDefense4Life Ive used their C02 in a ton of launchers to date :) I haven't had any issues.
@@AlternateArmsSD thanks Jon for your feedback. You’ve been very helpful.
kids I really recommend the Sabre , I got my sabre on sale plus a coupon code making it around 80 bucks. I had the grimburg gun and it is cool and powerful but the sabre to me is better and easier to use .
Thats a great deal man!
Has anyone opened up their Sabre yet? Maybe dyed it?
Give me time :) I'm on vacation til the 27th :)
Hi you sell them Sabre how much ?
Hey brother, not yet but I will soon :-) I’m actually working on them now. This is going to be a very interesting year for me. :-)
Aim for the center mass other option if you got a clear shot aim for the eye throat groin its as simple as that
That would certainly end the conflict.
@@AlternateArmsSD Btw if i am not mistaking i see some fluorecent light above your chrono have you ever tried turning it off ? if not try it . Might be causing the high failrate of the chrono gadget time :) lol ruclips.net/video/UQGA8TpCYsg/видео.html
Does it fit 50 caliber ammo or only 68, great video as always Jon!
Thanks man! This one fires 68 only.
Jon you have speed loader for my umarex t4e hdp50, tnx! @@AlternateArmsSD
Don't be afraid to grab the cam and show us the shots 🤣🤣
ROFL! No movie magic. I trying to get a high speed camera for some up close and personal shots :)
nice
Thanks man!
I also subscribed!
THanks Brother!
Can you own one of these if you're a felon?
You certainly can. That is one of the major advantages. They are not firearms.
Amazon dropped the price of the Sabre to $130. WTF
My guess is they’re trying to make a run on the market. Pick them up while you can :-)
WOW !!! as of 03/25/2024 , they are still not available !!!
@rick31869 They might be available from other dealers if you search on-line. I have 2 of them and dyed them black.
👍🏾
Good Price and Good Power....but the Color is a Deal Breaker. Hopefully they will give us Basic Black in Future.
Oh, give me time :)
You need to look at Tippmann TiPX Magfed Paintball Pistols No air up need 7 balls 2 mags. its on my night stand 25 meter shot to spot them steeling my cars
I have a video up on it :) As well as a head to head with all 3 :)
Great video and review
That’s Brother!
No quick pierce is a dealbreaker for me.
Yeah, that’s a dealbreaker for a lot of people. It’s not too bad if you use it situationally. It might be a fantastic launcher to keep in your house in a nightstand, perhaps even in your car or when you’re camping. But if you need quick access, it would require a lot of muscle memory training to deploy it quickly.
the twist puncture is disapointing, but the size and color could be for quick identifying if law enforcement is involved that color is pretty standard to identify as less lethal., if your buying it to bluff a bad guy, that's a bad idea, if its out you should be using it, or don't have it out.
Agreed, you never pull a self-defense item to bluff anybody. If you’re not willing to use it at that moment, you shouldn’t be pulling it.
$124 on Amazon today
@@randomcuriosities8441 nice!!
$120 too much
The launcher will shoot rubber and Glass breaker balls I contacted SABRE and and they sell them
Yep, I have a lot of ammo tests coming
The yellow is the color of less lethal just like the cops who gives a fk your there to use it. I understand about color but with a less lethal that people think it’s a real one. Remember that person can pull the real one be carful
True, however fortunately we don’t live in the gunfight at the OK corral. If you pull the launcher, assume you are in a position where you need it. If you’re firing a high quality pepperball, the target can’t breathe or see. These aren’t a replacement for a firearm, but an option.
That being said, some states actually require that you have it in a different color.
Man it would be perfect. The color sucks. Black and or blue or grey color would be ok
@@Ernestosgarage That wouldn’t be too hard either :)
@AlternateArmsSD i would have bought one right now if it wasn't yellow
@ Have you seen my video on rit dying these?
@AlternateArmsSD no I haven't I'll look it up. I wanted something with the real feel and look of the real deal. That yellow just looks like a toy and I'm afraid of pulling it out and I get no reaction from the offender. Hopefully I can find something powerful that looks and feels like the real deal. Something with a magazine of sorts. That's why I liked this one.
@ Heh, they will react when you fire it :)
Too many, as you can see.
Made of all plastic?
On this one, yes. But it does have a solid feel.
The twist knob to charge is a not interested for me , they need to change to the bump type like the salt
Thats a turn off for a lot of folks.