Good for him. I say fuck 'em. Stand up for what you believe. I may not agree with what he has to say but everyone should tell the Twitter mobs to piss off. Save me from your heroics of activism in 400 characters (or whatever the limit is.)
As a fellow American, we’re allowed to say whatever we want. Even if it offends people. Without that right, no other rights can exist. And the real assholes are the people who want to MOLD other people into believing the bullshit propaganda so everyone is compliant in not offending anyone. Trapt 2020, TRUMP2020. When did America become so weak minded that people are outraged over FACTS.
@@JR-iu2mf I love how calling out victim mentality is synonymous with racism. I highly doubt the dude said anything even remotely derogatory of black people, yet all the wokesters are gonna come out of the woodwork.
TH3 F4LC0N right! They literally examine EVERYTHING someone says so they can bitch cry and complain their way to what? Ruining someone because they have opposing beliefs? How lame the world would be if EVERYONE was a liberal. Sad part about it is that corporate America is ALL ON BOARD with it. The real discrimination is happening to conservative trump supporters who have been awake decades before these IDIOTIC virtue signaling woke people came about. How much more asleep could you be to claim a victim mentality and demand the government and corporations silence people and take away their income. Pansys.
Honestly. I haven't payed any attention to Trapt for the last 15 years but I might just start doing that again now. That frontman has some balls to take on half the metal community like that without backing down or giving a single fuck what anyone thinks about him for it. He's pretty much the nu metal Kanye.
Actual Twitter exchange between Trapt & Ice-T: Trapt (Chris): "Damn, Ice-T is threatening me for saying Trapt has much higher streaming numbers... you can't make this shit up! I said he was a great actor... Body Count is a great group as well. Been around for a long time. Just don't have the numbers Trapt does. Kick my ass though for it." Ice-T: "Dude... I have no Fn idea who you are."
@@azathoth0820 the blame game mentality they all have. Before sjw stood for people speaking up about things that where wrong and needed change. Now its blame others for everything and be very hateful while doing it. ANTIFA would be the biggest offenders of this example.
@Danny Dircio *Some of the emo bands are jumping in, so they don't get called out for their bull shit. Forgot your punctuation, thought I would help you out, seeing how much you care for grammar. :D
While I agree with what he was saying, and don’t find any of it to be bigoted, racist, or xenophobic, he is being really douchey about getting his views across. That’s not how you respond to people who disagree with you.
I agree with that. Although I do think the rock and metal world are acting very childish. I agree he's pushing his views a bit much (pretty much Corey Taylor), but the community from the get go acted like they can't handle a different opinion.
I do understand his points, and actually agree with denying white privilege and stuff, but his way of expressing it is absurd and makes his already crappy band look even worse.
@EJT0002 I honestly think that Someone in Control is one of the best alt metal records of the early 2000's.(maybe it's just the nostalgia talking). And I still like Trapt's stuff to this day, it's a shame to see their popularity fall due to such dumb reasons
I agree with this, the things he said are true but he is acting like a 13 year old xbox live kid in response to the backlash. However that said the shitcore artists (not the rock and metal community as the title suggests) who are trying to dunk on him for this are just throwing ad hominems at him so they are just as bad if not worse.
Fr, i personally find the whole "saying chinese virus is racist" thing very stupid.... but good lord, is he stupid as well for whole dofferent reasons 😂
@@SeanStrife So this is your only response you have? These guys all come together against him and say he's racist and a bigot and the Covid-19 doesn't come from China(which it does) and has white privilege(which doesn't exist) . And then proves them wrong and they come back with trying to diss him and his band? Pathetic!
There's nothing happening in metal and rock because of corona virus so Loudwire posted some crap. Even Toni wasn't here - she is at home surrounded by toilet paper.
@@MiketheNerdRanger We would be far better if the left stop claiming every right wing person is a Trump supporter or a nazi and if the right stop claiming everyone on the left is a libtard or a commie
You are right, and people have a right to call him an idiot because of those beliefs. They also have the right to drag him after he attacks other bands.
@@quentinking5173 having a right to call somebody an idiot isn't the same as being right about calling somebody an idiot. Not that they were calling him an idiot anyway, more like childish buzzwords like "xenophobe" "racist" and "homophobe"
Where is the violation of free speech? Freedom of Speech doesn’t mean what you think it does. It doesn’t mean people have to listen to crap, or can’t respond. It doesn’t mean you get an equal platform to yelp your garbage from. Your speech freedom begins and ends at mine. You want to say racist bs, then we get to call you out on your bs.
HEADLINE: Everyone Thinks Ad Hominems are Arguments. I don't know Trapt from a hole in the ground, but attacking someone's popularity is not an argument. Neither is responding in kind.
colfrankslade He’s right though. Trapt is irrelevant, pseudo-tough guy metal made for gym freaks and dumbasses who judge metal on how much it flaunts its attitude
@@mastershake7968 Personally, I'd rather have a "woke crowd" over a bunch of dudes who are nearly 40 and tweeting stupid bullshit like they're 18 year olds.
@@mattgrundy27 I personally believe he didn't kill himself. Like with Chris Cornell. Cornell allegedly hung himself, but was found on the ground and the autopsy was released less than a day when most autopsies take at least a few days to a week if not longer to come out. Plus he died in Detroit. They're not exactly known for how not corrupt their officials are, and Cornell's wife still says she can't believe he killed himself because they were happily married with their children
Grundy my man I don’t think he’s a coward he lived with his issues for like 25 years most people would’ve gave up way before we have no clue what was going on in his life so we can’t really judge if his life was that bad the only option he had was to take it or not
That's what I was just thinking...they sound like a bunch of fuckin SJWs getting butthurt over all these buzzwords and facts that they don't like to hear. Don't make 'em not true, eh?
@Sam Actually, Simon Ormandy was the lead guitarist on Trapt's albums from 2002-2008. He then left, and was replaced by Robb Torres, who was on Trapt's albums from 2009-2013.
Celebrities are so out of touch with the common folk because they're pretty vocal about their asinine politics. They should keep singing, acting, and keeping their trap shut if these people know what's good for them.
@@bonker_whats_up7203 I've heard that one. It's complete horseshit that conservatives say to feel better about themselves, lmao. Music and politics have mixed for ages. How many metal or rock bands went broke for writing anti-war songs, or songs with left-leaning views? Hint: none.
"he has a different option, better call him every ist and ism in the book to make ourselves feel good, it's current year goi!" Get over it. Don't even know this band and I can tell this is all blown way out.
They aren't just doing it because he has a different opinion. And they have a right to say whatever they want about him too, just like nobody silenced him tweeting all that crap.
iheartlol90 if someone came on with the opposite views of him, people would still be complaining and saying they’re wrong, and the same people bitching now would be silent. That’s worse and more over sensitive than those they call snowflake sjw
I mean, he was right. But did he have to go overboard with slamming every last band in the scene? They aren't your competition, they are you're allies. Who's going to want to tour with trapt after this? He has a different opinion to most of the scene, so what? I thought our genre was to be all inclusive and that different ways of thinking were encouraged.
I've actually seen video of them from as far back as 4-5 years ago of them picking a fight with a local band; it goes beyond political opinion, dude's an egotistical asshole, regardless of political affiliation.
I'd love to be a band that's regarded to Linkin Park's success lmao 2 videos over 1 billion. Over 20 million records sold from their debut album, several awards. Not an insult.
@@NexusKin exactly so I don't know what they're talking about, how is being like linkin park an insult? It's silly to think a 10 million+ debut is a bad thing. Mike said it's now over 20 million.
Of all the bands he could have thrown out, he picked Linkin Park. I know this guy is an idiot, but holy shit, that's ridiculous. Hybrid Theory alone is one of the most universal albums of all time.
That dude said us vs you was at a festival. If the band that went before has alot of fans and the band after you has alot of fans it will look like you do to if you take a picture at the right time
Didn't show in the vid but a fan showed Power Trip playing to a PACKED house on there Headlining tour at a NW area stop. Plus Trapt's photo in that tweet is also at a festival, and if they were even slightly relevant. People would have came out early enough for there set. Thus your point is Moot.
I mean he’s got a point. This did come out of China, and isn’t the first time. And China did try to cover it up and did jail whistleblowers who could have raised awareness before it got to where it is now. Why don’t more people see this?
Matt - If you believe that we’re not already at war with China then open your eyes. China is probably our number one enemy when it comes to cyber terrorism. Our weapon of choice against them is trade sanctions, although that’s about to change once the global economy falls into a major depression, which is inevitable at this point.
@@Matt-nk2tp I think it's not abou "let's go to war against China". It's about people claiming it's "racist" to point out where did this shitstorm come from.
I think it's not exactly about the China thing, it's more about what came afterwards. I mean how he blamed all people who just had different opinions about it.
this guy has good opinions and he's right but the way he shows it to others like attacking them makes us conservatives look bad but im on the dude's side man
He got attacked by a hate mob for his unpopular opinions. This is why nobody should use twitter. The entire platform is invested with these easily offended parasites.
Straight out of the alt-right playbook. Try to trivialize and ignore what’s been actually said and represent it as something inconsequential and harmless.
r. decline: Many could say he being lambasted for his opinions is right out of the Lib-Left playbook. So a stand-off is all we’ll hope for in this case. Peace!✌🏻
Not to mention that if he's a bigot for calling it the Chinese corona virus then you have to say the same thing to CNN as they have aired them calling it the Wuhan corona virus. And if you think otherwise you are a hypocrite. Also you must severely lack the ability to critically think. The fact is if Obama was president during this pandemic there would be thousands more dead Americans at this point seeing as Obama waited until 1000 Americans died to even lift a finger over the swine flu outbreak.
It doesn't make sense why a rock and Heavy Metal news network thinks that they're leftist opinions are important to anyone I almost guarantee they end up losing more subscribers from this just because they think that leftism is popular. How about this Loudwire how about you stick to Rock and Heavy metal stay out of politics or you're network will be obsolete within the week.
Even though it’s a little stupid he’s being labeled as a racist for saying that it came from China, he is delusional for arguing about how he makes more money and it’s been really funny watching all this unfold
That's what extremism on every political expectrum does, even if you said nothing wrong you are gong to get blasted by the other extreme side, ues the Trapy vocalist was really immature for making a tantrum, but the other bands where as immature to mock him at the same time. He should just have ended when he said that it Janet racism calling it a Chinese virus because it started in China. P.D. And for me it's ironic that one guy seaid that he had a "reallly narrow world view" and he probably live on a left wing idology ecochamber.
@@Ms666slayer " live on a left wing idology ecochamber." You know there's something extra ironic about assuming that anybody who dares to point out an obviously narrow-minded viewpoint lives in an echo chamber.
Why is it when someone says something certain people don't like they are labeled racist or xenophobic or whatever?! Don't have a valid argument, scream racist or sexist!
I know this video is 3 years old. It was recommended to me though. My question is why in the world would he make these comments from the actual trapt band page rather than his own page?? A pretty selfish move tbh 😭
Jimmy I’m 22 and when I was around 5 or 6, Headstrong was all the rage during the peak of nu metal. It’s similar to Papa Roach if you’re familiar with them. Count your blessings you don’t remember it
*So I've met Chris Taylor Brown a few times & all I can say about him is that he's definitely not the way he appears to be while on social networks. When you meet him he's actually incredibly chill & easy to talk to about things. Social media in general is like a whole nother kind of Temptation for some people I guess when it comes to debates & arguments; so maybe he could word things better at the end of the day on his own personal profiles & not the band's profile. They portray him here at the extreme with all this, which is also too bad while in the face of Trapt's situation.*
So he's in hot water for spitting some unpopular truth? Here I thought rock and metal was about freedom and rebellion, not being two bit political shills.
I’m not a huge Trapt fan, but I kind of just instinctively side with whoever is being ganged up against. Guess it’s part of the contrarian nature. Gotta give it to Chris Taylor Brown for getting me to root for him & also getting Trapt’s name out there again.
Well also he didn't really say anything wrong. He acted like an angsty teen, that's the disgraceful part but pointing out that white privilege is a crock of shit and that covid DID come from China is just facts. It's not supporting Donald Trump by saying that despite what the idiot in this video says. It's literally a fact that it came from Wuhan china
The I Prevail guy’s post was the best: “Tillian’s voice is awesome. In other news, @TRAPTOFFICIAL will still be going on tour through the COVID-19 pandemic as no more than ten people will be attending their shows on a given night.” Savage.
They've defended the Unite The Right rally... which was a literal Neo-Nazi gathering, despite what he and some others will tell you. Bad look on the right, if you ask me.
@@DarthVader-sp8fe The shit in Charlottesville. You know, where the neo-Nazis were marching with tiki torches, chanting shit like Jews Will Not Replace Us and Blood and Soil... one of them murdered a counter-protestor by running her over with his goddamn car. That thing.
The Trapt singer didn’t do anything wrong? He’s being an immature dick to anyone who disagrees with him. A total douchebag. If i got this comment the wrong way i apologize.
@@te9591 due to the fact your cold and hungry from the liberal mindset. It's ok,I'm not being combative, just here to open to open your heart and mind. Be patient, be humble, love when you can't, it isn't impossible.
@@te9591 I could agree (since I understand your point and perspective), but when will we finally make a stand for what think/feel is right? Being pushed into a corner can only go on for so long. And the threshold for tolerance is over...time to be open and honest (just like the lgbtq is "allowed" to be). There's 2 sides to a coin, why can't ours be expressed as well? Give me your reason, give me your thoughts, give me your lack of sympathy which you choose/want to express. Can't have one without the other. Why can't both sides stand rightfully, with acknowledgement of the other? Answer that. And sincerely, thank you for not being combative without the lack of thought. I appreciate this discussion. 😔
Good for them! Don’t be bullied into silence by the worst kind of people our society has to offer If they had an anti-trump opinion, they’d be praised I’m sure
Which ones at this point? The only good members were Simon Ormandy, Robb Torres and Aaron Montgomery, and they all left the band after 2010's "No Apologies," the last decent album Trapt ever made.
At least Trapt has the balls to actually speak their minds and are willing to own their opinions. Unlike other losers who jump on Twitter and claims everything and everyone who disagrees with them are racist, homophobic, etc.
I was a big-time nu metal fan as a teen, still like a lot of classic nu metal like KoRn and SlipKnoT (enough that my inner adolescent self still insists upon typing their names that way), and I always thought Trapt was weak as shit. I can see somebody's favorite band being KoRn or SlipKnoT (probably somebody in their teens/early twenties) but I cannot picture a hardcore Trapt fanatic. At best, they were always "Oh, they're cool. I like Headstrong." One-hit-wonder, much?
@@BaranoffIsaac I don't have a backwards R on my keyboard. Don't worry though, I was true to the backwards R on all my middle school binders and folders 😈
it appears that he truly is headstrong and will take on anyone
Good for him. I say fuck 'em. Stand up for what you believe. I may not agree with what he has to say but everyone should tell the Twitter mobs to piss off.
Save me from your heroics of activism in 400 characters (or whatever the limit is.)
As it should be
@@illuminahde aren't the Twitter mobs just standing up for what they believe?
This is not where he belongs
My first thought
Since when is calling someone Linkin Park, an insult?
Right..as far as I'm concerned linkin park is way better than any other band in this video
Bruh since whrn is it not.
@@kushkiller7108 also all of the bands in this vid besides trapt are far fucking superior. Especially power trip.
EMO edgy 90's teen cringe with a bit of rap, LP only gets a break because that dude died
@@ProTobigen Really? Name one without rewatching the video.
this is by far, th best midlife crisis i've ever seen
Or simply speaking facts imo
Metalcore Michael fax 💯💯
Metalcore Michael nah he just don’t care about 12 year olds like you who try to act edgy
trapt is awesome stfu
lol
i just think its funny how trapt os under fire when it was probably only the lead singer who said shit.
He is right so
This is very true.
The guy is the asshole, not the entire band.
As a fellow American, we’re allowed to say whatever we want. Even if it offends people. Without that right, no other rights can exist. And the real assholes are the people who want to MOLD other people into believing the bullshit propaganda so everyone is compliant in not offending anyone. Trapt 2020, TRUMP2020. When did America become so weak minded that people are outraged over FACTS.
@@JR-iu2mf I love how calling out victim mentality is synonymous with racism. I highly doubt the dude said anything even remotely derogatory of black people, yet all the wokesters are gonna come out of the woodwork.
TH3 F4LC0N right! They literally examine EVERYTHING someone says so they can bitch cry and complain their way to what? Ruining someone because they have opposing beliefs? How lame the world would be if EVERYONE was a liberal. Sad part about it is that corporate America is ALL ON BOARD with it. The real discrimination is happening to conservative trump supporters who have been awake decades before these IDIOTIC virtue signaling woke people came about. How much more asleep could you be to claim a victim mentality and demand the government and corporations silence people and take away their income. Pansys.
Nobody has ever said, "Yo play that new Trapt,"
titanfighter12 😂😂
People barely say “Yo play that old Trapt.”
In all fairness, people who talk like that only listen to frickin rap, hip hop, and pop. Follower shit 😂
600 people have!
Honestly. I haven't payed any attention to Trapt for the last 15 years but I might just start doing that again now. That frontman has some balls to take on half the metal community like that without backing down or giving a single fuck what anyone thinks about him for it. He's pretty much the nu metal Kanye.
Politics just brings the worst out of everyone.
Zane Curtis-Thomas Mmm hmm true
No it doesn’t. Politics is changing the world for better.
664 TheNeighborOfTheBeast also true
@@664theneighbor5 according to your politics?
It's usually Leftist politics that brings out the worst in people.
Headstrong he'll take you on, headstrong he'll take on anyone
They're that band? Thanks man. I was beating my head against the wall trying to remember where do I know the name Trapt from.
Well... Gotta respect a man of his word! 😆
Except he still has no comment about taking on the band that challenged him.
@@samkinison2375 well you just contradicted yourself, because if you didn't care you wouldn't have commented, numb nut's.
@@roblewis3147 literally nobody cares, trapt doing good and Trump is a good guy.
They must be headstrong to take them on
*he. It was just one person, not fair for the other band members
Actual Twitter exchange between Trapt & Ice-T:
Trapt (Chris): "Damn, Ice-T is threatening me for saying Trapt has much higher streaming numbers... you can't make this shit up! I said he was a great actor... Body Count is a great group as well. Been around for a long time. Just don't have the numbers Trapt does. Kick my ass though for it."
Ice-T: "Dude... I have no Fn idea who you are."
i forgot that Trapt even existed. lol
Shame on you 🤣🤣
I think that's why he's trying to stir up shit. His crap music isn't doing it for him.
I didn't even know they existed
Im sure nobody knows you exist lol
That was a horrible roast.
I mean.... He did say to back off or hell take em on....
But it turned out that this is not where he belongs.
All this drama aside. I'm still trying to figure out how being compared to Linkin Park is an insult
It's not. If anything its one of the biggest compliments you can get.
Nobody:
Loudwire: Ozzy Osbourne pooped this morning.
That's leagues more interesting than this
Now *thats* important news.
“We bought and reviewed Maynard James Keenan’s toenail clippings”
Lol
@@kkaiser.8521 I would watch that.
I tend to love a band regardless of what the world thinks of them.
Even if they're rapists, racists, etc? Sus.
It's cool to listen to whatever you want... but if you listen to Trapt, you gotta accept the price that it comes with.
Who tf are all these people?
loudwire and there sjw fans, that think billy ray is metal lmao
@@HooperFam what's wrong with being sjw?
@@azathoth0820 the blame game mentality they all have. Before sjw stood for people speaking up about things that where wrong and needed change. Now its blame others for everything and be very hateful while doing it. ANTIFA would be the biggest offenders of this example.
THX 1138 more like what isn’t wrong with SJW 🤣
@Danny Dircio *Some of the emo bands are jumping in, so they don't get called out for their bull shit.
Forgot your punctuation, thought I would help you out, seeing how much you care for grammar. :D
While I agree with what he was saying, and don’t find any of it to be bigoted, racist, or xenophobic, he is being really douchey about getting his views across. That’s not how you respond to people who disagree with you.
I agree with that. Although I do think the rock and metal world are acting very childish. I agree he's pushing his views a bit much (pretty much Corey Taylor), but the community from the get go acted like they can't handle a different opinion.
I do understand his points, and actually agree with denying white privilege and stuff, but his way of expressing it is absurd and makes his already crappy band look even worse.
@EJT0002 I honestly think that Someone in Control is one of the best alt metal records of the early 2000's.(maybe it's just the nostalgia talking). And I still like Trapt's stuff to this day, it's a shame to see their popularity fall due to such dumb reasons
I agree with this, the things he said are true but he is acting like a 13 year old xbox live kid in response to the backlash. However that said the shitcore artists (not the rock and metal community as the title suggests) who are trying to dunk on him for this are just throwing ad hominems at him so they are just as bad if not worse.
Fr, i personally find the whole "saying chinese virus is racist" thing very stupid.... but good lord, is he stupid as well for whole dofferent reasons 😂
"Justifying the relevance of his band"
What relevance?
@EJT0002 They literally have one notable song.
@EJT0002 I'm sorry about your mediocre taste in music.
@@SeanStrife So this is your only response you have? These guys all come together against him and say he's racist and a bigot and the Covid-19 doesn't come from China(which it does) and has white privilege(which doesn't exist) . And then proves them wrong and they come back with trying to diss him and his band? Pathetic!
@@howlingtitan8397 are you really expecting to be taken seriously after saying that white privilege doesn't exist? I hope not
Shout out to Loudwire deleting comments that don't fall in line with their rhetoric.
Have you considered that youtube couls have filtered comments instead? They do it all the god damn time after all.
@@Mephistotheles yeah but that doesn't change the fact that LibWire is deleting comments
Pointing how much of a douchebag trapt's singer is?
@@elgatofelix8917 How do you know that?
@@Mephistotheles their bias is what makes it obvious.
Never heard of any of these people.
Me too😂
most of them are some of the biggest bands in the -core scene, they're probably just no on your radar
There's nothing happening in metal and rock because of corona virus so Loudwire posted some crap. Even Toni wasn't here - she is at home surrounded by toilet paper.
BOO is the only good band they mentioned
WHAT, YOU'VE NEVER HEARD THE WORLD ALIVE
This just shows that people can't handle political discourse anymore, "left" or "right".
Truth
What's the proper way to do this?
Seriously I'm not being sarcastic.
@@MiketheNerdRanger We would be far better if the left stop claiming every right wing person is a Trump supporter or a nazi and if the right stop claiming everyone on the left is a libtard or a commie
@@godji9396 Right? Nothing says "tolerance" more than people trying to end a fellow artist's career for having a different opinion than them.
@@phoenixaries3147 I'm not sure how that connects to my statement but alright
This makes me respect Chad Krueger even more
"Kroger". Luckily he has no relation to Freddy Krueger.
The man has a right to believe what he wants. Whether you like it or not.
You are right, and people have a right to call him an idiot because of those beliefs. They also have the right to drag him after he attacks other bands.
@@quentinking5173 having a right to call somebody an idiot isn't the same as being right about calling somebody an idiot. Not that they were calling him an idiot anyway, more like childish buzzwords like "xenophobe" "racist" and "homophobe"
Free of speech... people keep forgetting about it... 🤔🤔🤔
Amparo Rodiguez has nothing to do with free speech, actually.
Where is the violation of free speech? Freedom of Speech doesn’t mean what you think it does. It doesn’t mean people have to listen to crap, or can’t respond. It doesn’t mean you get an equal platform to yelp your garbage from. Your speech freedom begins and ends at mine. You want to say racist bs, then we get to call you out on your bs.
HEADLINE: Everyone Thinks Ad Hominems are Arguments. I don't know Trapt from a hole in the ground, but attacking someone's popularity is not an argument. Neither is responding in kind.
Falaces... Falaces everywhere
@@bw0ns4mdi35 *fallacies
Oh no...he denied something that doesn’t exist. How terrible.
No matter what happened I'm still a solid trapt fan
I still love "Someone In Control" and "No Apologies" to this day. 2002-2010 was their best overall period.
Im waiting for the "Headstrong" jokes.
Apparently he thought he could take them on and take on anyone, but unfortunately this is not where he belongs.
Its always funny watching all of these superficial, anti-bully, "positive vibes" people single someone out and pick on them.
Funny isn't this
This is more like responding to a maniac.
Just like the avengers bullied thanos
@@sakidickerson this just proves that we desperately need the snap to happen. Thanos did nothing wrong.
@Joshua De Nunzio 👍👍👍
That's why even tho I have political opinions I don't want to talk about them with other people.
@Walter B Elvis was The King. He was above everything else except the things that really mattered the most.
“The Linkin park of warped tour” damn I wish I was the linkin park of anything. How is saying they’re like a more successful band bad? Lol
Trapt hasn't been relevant for years. Headstrong is like their one hit. Oh and maybe sound off or Love hate relationship lol.
@Draw 3to be fair, Bring it was one of my favorite songs back in 2012
Maybe you could possibly understand that music can be a reflection of one's life and current moments within it. Got to open the mind.
"trapt hasn't been relevant for years".
colfrankslade what an ironic and hopelessly unaware comment.
colfrankslade He’s right though. Trapt is irrelevant, pseudo-tough guy metal made for gym freaks and dumbasses who judge metal on how much it flaunts its attitude
Just because all those bands agree. Doesn’t make them right.
METAL & MUSCLE except it kind of does.
@@twizoa7126 um no
@@twizoa7126 not in the slightest.
@@twizoa7126 OK boomer. #AdPopulumFallacy
No it don’t, but factually being right, makes them right.
I agree with him, but he's also a nobody. This is not newsworthy. Why are you even talking about this bs?
loudwire has gotten more & more pc lately ... is it journalism, or is it just crap? YOU DECIDE
He also called THEM out.
@Cyberdemon Mike haha. "One shall stand, one shall fall!" -optimus prime
The lgbtq agenda. WAKE UP
Because we're all stuck at home with nothing to do or report on.
THANKS LIBERALWIRE FOR SUCH GREAT INFO TO HELP US COPE FROM THESE TOUGH TIMES
Stupidity - the tweets I saw were a bunch of bands comparing streaming numbers and throwing the popular racism word around.
Sadly the metal genre is infected with the "woke" crowd
I never realized how badly out of touch I am compared to the younger scene...no wonder so much of the music suffers these days.
Shawn Shotaholic I don’t get it. There is 0 nuance in music. It’s like artists think they have to ride the woke twitter train to be successful
@@mastershake7968 Makes me sick. And I'm young, too...22.
@@mastershake7968 Personally, I'd rather have a "woke crowd" over a bunch of dudes who are nearly 40 and tweeting stupid bullshit like they're 18 year olds.
If he said I was Linkin Park on a warped tour I would have been so happy
BTW Happy Birthday Chester
(20 March 2020)
Chester is death... Nobody cares about NU Metal
Apparently you don't care for spelling. Nu metal is a good genre
Chester was a COWARD. He left behind 6 kids and a wife because being rich and famous was too much... f him and his tarnished legacy
@@mattgrundy27 I personally believe he didn't kill himself. Like with Chris Cornell. Cornell allegedly hung himself, but was found on the ground and the autopsy was released less than a day when most autopsies take at least a few days to a week if not longer to come out. Plus he died in Detroit. They're not exactly known for how not corrupt their officials are, and Cornell's wife still says she can't believe he killed himself because they were happily married with their children
Grundy my man I don’t think he’s a coward he lived with his issues for like 25 years most people would’ve gave up way before we have no clue what was going on in his life so we can’t really judge if his life was that bad the only option he had was to take it or not
Since when did rock turn into such a soft and easily offended genre? Yall need to turn off CNN and get some fresh air
Well fucking said my dude. T
That's what I was just thinking...they sound like a bunch of fuckin SJWs getting butthurt over all these buzzwords and facts that they don't like to hear. Don't make 'em not true, eh?
Thank you for your honesty in these dumb times my dude.
Danny Savage Yes, my thoughts exactly.
You're getting offended over people getting offended. Can't you see the irony on this cringeception?
When a band that has only one song famous disses Linkin Park on Chester's bday.. in other words : how to dig your own grave, Trapt.
He’s just mad that no one can name two Trapt songs
"Still Frame" from the same album was also technically a hit according to the Rock Charts.
@Sam Simon Ormandy's been out of the band since 2008. I don't know what he's been doing since then.
@Sam Actually, Simon Ormandy was the lead guitarist on Trapt's albums from 2002-2008. He then left, and was replaced by Robb Torres, who was on Trapt's albums from 2009-2013.
Alot of fart huffing, at least the dude isn't in lockstep these the rest of the millionaire 'rock bands' trying to get cheap woke points
Celebrities are so out of touch with the common folk because they're pretty vocal about their asinine politics. They should keep singing, acting, and keeping their trap shut if these people know what's good for them.
@@bonker_whats_up7203 or what?
@@SomeKindOfScum ever heard the saying "get woke go broke"?
@@bonker_whats_up7203 I've heard that one. It's complete horseshit that conservatives say to feel better about themselves, lmao. Music and politics have mixed for ages. How many metal or rock bands went broke for writing anti-war songs, or songs with left-leaning views? Hint: none.
@@SomeKindOfScum Or we won't buy their music headass.
"he has a different option, better call him every ist and ism in the book to make ourselves feel good, it's current year goi!" Get over it. Don't even know this band and I can tell this is all blown way out.
They aren't just doing it because he has a different opinion. And they have a right to say whatever they want about him too, just like nobody silenced him tweeting all that crap.
iheartlol90 if someone came on with the opposite views of him, people would still be complaining and saying they’re wrong, and the same people bitching now would be silent. That’s worse and more over sensitive than those they call snowflake sjw
Ozzy Says
"Don't eat Bats!" 🤘😜
That's what started the "Chy-na" Virus.
I mean, he was right. But did he have to go overboard with slamming every last band in the scene? They aren't your competition, they are you're allies. Who's going to want to tour with trapt after this? He has a different opinion to most of the scene, so what? I thought our genre was to be all inclusive and that different ways of thinking were encouraged.
Ugh I wish he never went there. He was on the right track when he said Hoobastank and Trapt were both doing well
I've actually seen video of them from as far back as 4-5 years ago of them picking a fight with a local band; it goes beyond political opinion, dude's an egotistical asshole, regardless of political affiliation.
Somberlain Trapt can always open for Bill Maher, I guess.
two things that do not mix well: metal and politics.....eeesh
Trent Michael true
@Trent Michael half of grindcore
Punk and politics mixes better.
Wrong. Almost all of the best Metal is political. Only Leftism tho
@@664theneighbor5 yeah are there right wing?
Quarantine must be getting to Chris!
OK boomer
@@user-ei9ns9hq6b I'm a Millennial but thanks anyway 😂
@@MichaelD8393 yeah I guess anyone older than 23 is considered a boomer 😂😂
@@GraceAlone614 And I'm 27, so I must be a Boomer by someone’s standards 😂😂😂😂
@@MichaelD8393 we're all boomers I guess lol
I'd love to be a band that's regarded to Linkin Park's success lmao 2 videos over 1 billion. Over 20 million records sold from their debut album, several awards. Not an insult.
"Hybrid Theory" was one of the only debut albums in history to actually be certified Diamond, with 10 million or more units sold.
@@NexusKin exactly so I don't know what they're talking about, how is being like linkin park an insult? It's silly to think a 10 million+ debut is a bad thing. Mike said it's now over 20 million.
Of all the bands he could have thrown out, he picked Linkin Park. I know this guy is an idiot, but holy shit, that's ridiculous.
Hybrid Theory alone is one of the most universal albums of all time.
That dude said us vs you was at a festival. If the band that went before has alot of fans and the band after you has alot of fans it will look like you do to if you take a picture at the right time
Didn't show in the vid but a fan showed Power Trip playing to a PACKED house on there Headlining tour at a NW area stop. Plus Trapt's photo in that tweet is also at a festival, and if they were even slightly relevant. People would have came out early enough for there set. Thus your point is Moot.
You both articulate unintentionally.
Didn't _anyone_ in this thread pass English?
@@robashton8606 Nope, gonna need to steal the Rosetta stone for this one...
This thread is like reading in Sim.
I mean he’s got a point. This did come out of China, and isn’t the first time. And China did try to cover it up and did jail whistleblowers who could have raised awareness before it got to where it is now. Why don’t more people see this?
BeCaUsE iT's RaCiSt!
Or something.
The world sees this..... Do you suggest we go to war with China while battling this virus!?
Matt - If you believe that we’re not already at war with China then open your eyes. China is probably our number one enemy when it comes to cyber terrorism. Our weapon of choice against them is trade sanctions, although that’s about to change once the global economy falls into a major depression, which is inevitable at this point.
@@Matt-nk2tp I think it's not abou "let's go to war against China". It's about people claiming it's "racist" to point out where did this shitstorm come from.
I think it's not exactly about the China thing, it's more about what came afterwards. I mean how he blamed all people who just had different opinions about it.
this guy has good opinions and he's right but the way he shows it to others like attacking them makes us conservatives look bad but im on the dude's side man
Bernie Sanders represents the White Male Patriarchy nah dude like bash them on social media conservatives dont usually do that
😂Sam Kinison😂 bruuuuhhh
I'm not even conservative and I agree with him. He's 100% right but he still made an ass out of himself
How is this guy or the band even relevant anymore? They had like one hit song way back in the early 2000's lmao
They're not. Their last decent album in my eyes was way back in 2010 with "No Apologies."
Who cares
Lmao
So supporting something or someone gets you labeled in the court of public opinion?
Seems we’ve gone nowhere since the ‘60’s.
He got attacked by a hate mob for his unpopular opinions. This is why nobody should use twitter. The entire platform is invested with these easily offended parasites.
Straight out of the alt-right playbook. Try to trivialize and ignore what’s been actually said and represent it as something inconsequential and harmless.
@@frequencydecline5250 like how you libtards trivialize and ignore how FDR put Japanese in concentration camps? Derp
r. decline: Many could say he being lambasted for his opinions is right out of the Lib-Left playbook. So a stand-off is all we’ll hope for in this case. Peace!✌🏻
@@frequencydecline5250 or how about how your precious demoKKKrat party founded the KKK? Derp
Now it's clear where Loudwire stands politically. If they were smart they'd stay the hell out of politics.
Not to mention that if he's a bigot for calling it the Chinese corona virus then you have to say the same thing to CNN as they have aired them calling it the Wuhan corona virus. And if you think otherwise you are a hypocrite. Also you must severely lack the ability to critically think. The fact is if Obama was president during this pandemic there would be thousands more dead Americans at this point seeing as Obama waited until 1000 Americans died to even lift a finger over the swine flu outbreak.
@@kevincannon795 BINGO! Liberalwire has always been a liberal shill.
It doesn't make sense why a rock and Heavy Metal news network thinks that they're leftist opinions are important to anyone I almost guarantee they end up losing more subscribers from this just because they think that leftism is popular. How about this Loudwire how about you stick to Rock and Heavy metal stay out of politics or you're network will be obsolete within the week.
Tornado Freaks how dare they! 🙄
@@kevincannon795 it's no more racist than saying Baby Metal is a Japanese group.
I love how Trapt of all bands want to start a twitter war. A one man black metal soundcloud artist has more relevance than them
Highly doubt that
Are you that one man death metal sound cloud artist? Lol
You know if this is the kind of relevance Trapt thinks they hold, I'd rather stay unknown forever lmao
Even though it’s a little stupid he’s being labeled as a racist for saying that it came from China, he is delusional for arguing about how he makes more money and it’s been really funny watching all this unfold
That's what extremism on every political expectrum does, even if you said nothing wrong you are gong to get blasted by the other extreme side, ues the Trapy vocalist was really immature for making a tantrum, but the other bands where as immature to mock him at the same time.
He should just have ended when he said that it Janet racism calling it a Chinese virus because it started in China.
P.D. And for me it's ironic that one guy seaid that he had a "reallly narrow world view" and he probably live on a left wing idology ecochamber.
@@Ms666slayer " live on a left wing idology ecochamber."
You know there's something extra ironic about assuming that anybody who dares to point out an obviously narrow-minded viewpoint lives in an echo chamber.
One of the biggest and most amazing things done by the metal community since we lost Lemmy And Peter S.
And Chris Cornell, and Eddie Van Halen, and Chester Bennington, and Alexi Laiho.
Peter Steele? Good shout if so. 💚
"Never heard of any of these people." Me too!
Why is it when someone says something certain people don't like they are labeled racist or xenophobic or whatever?!
Don't have a valid argument, scream racist or sexist!
Forget trapt lets unite to destroy rap and trap
I know this video is 3 years old. It was recommended to me though. My question is why in the world would he make these comments from the actual trapt band page rather than his own page?? A pretty selfish move tbh 😭
All I gotta say is that as a 20 year old who has listened to only rock and metal his entire life is.......... who tf is trapt
Jimmy They made that Headstrong song all the pseudo-tough guy metalheads love to flaunt. That’s it. They’ve been irrelevant for almost two decades
Cosmic Sea I’ve never even heard of headstrong and if this guy wrote headstrong then sheesh 🙄
Jimmy I’m 22 and when I was around 5 or 6, Headstrong was all the rage during the peak of nu metal. It’s similar to Papa Roach if you’re familiar with them. Count your blessings you don’t remember it
okay so... I've never heard of a single person mentioned in this video.
I've heard of hoobastank...
Lincoln Park is a neighborhood in California
You can't blame the bands if you're out of touch with the scene
I've heard of I Prevail, Every Time I Die, Attila, Born Of Osiris and Hoobastank.
He’s based and the world can’t handle it
Loudwire are becoming propagandists
And probably on China's payroll
They always were.
*So I've met Chris Taylor Brown a few times & all I can say about him is that he's definitely not the way he appears to be while on social networks. When you meet him he's actually incredibly chill & easy to talk to about things. Social media in general is like a whole nother kind of Temptation for some people I guess when it comes to debates & arguments; so maybe he could word things better at the end of the day on his own personal profiles & not the band's profile. They portray him here at the extreme with all this, which is also too bad while in the face of Trapt's situation.*
So he's in hot water for spitting some unpopular truth?
Here I thought rock and metal was about freedom and rebellion, not being two bit political shills.
Exactly!
THIS
A month later he’s still going after everyone on Twitter. Dude is having some sort of mental breakdown. Or he’s just stupid.
Its both.
I gotta say.....I've never heard of any of the bands that were mentioned in this video.
I knew a few of them from before, mainly I Prevail, Every Time I Die, Attila, and Born Of Osiris.
How is it Racist to call virus that comes from China the “Chinese virus” but its not racist to say “German measles” or “Spanish flu”?
Love this band even more
I fucking love Trapt now 👍🏻
Someone broke into my car the other day. Nothing was stolen, they just left a trapt CD.
I support Trapt. I do not support loudwire and this hit piece. Unsubbed.
I support your position. Saying subbed just to troll them
They played a show the other day and theres MAYBE 12 people there
He's right, though.
Yeah I know
Eddie you’re a racist, though
DisasterMIDI can you please grow up? Nothing the trapt vocalist said was racist, or any of that other sjw bullishit.
No he's not
He's right
No. He is not
I never heard of Trapt and it sounds like I don't want to.
Well they have one good song "headstrong"
@@amanbhakta4524 that song sucks, why would I listen to that pile of fake wanna be metal crap when Angel of death exists(real metal)
I’m not a huge Trapt fan, but I kind of just instinctively side with whoever is being ganged up against. Guess it’s part of the contrarian nature. Gotta give it to Chris Taylor Brown for getting me to root for him & also getting Trapt’s name out there again.
Well also he didn't really say anything wrong. He acted like an angsty teen, that's the disgraceful part but pointing out that white privilege is a crock of shit and that covid DID come from China is just facts. It's not supporting Donald Trump by saying that despite what the idiot in this video says.
It's literally a fact that it came from Wuhan china
Proudly blocked by Trapt.
The song itself is more famous than the band. People know the song, but can’t always remember who played it.
Yeah, they thought it was a Papa Roach or Linkin Park song.
The I Prevail guy’s post was the best: “Tillian’s voice is awesome. In other news, @TRAPTOFFICIAL will still be going on tour through the COVID-19 pandemic as no more than ten people will be attending their shows on a given night.” Savage.
I Prevail already has more hits than Trapt even though they only first made it big in 2016. They're a lot better musically as well.
I’m trying to figure out exactly where Trapt was racist, homophobic, or bigoted in anything they said....
They've defended the Unite The Right rally... which was a literal Neo-Nazi gathering, despite what he and some others will tell you. Bad look on the right, if you ask me.
@@SeanStrife what are you on about?
@@DarthVader-sp8fe The shit in Charlottesville. You know, where the neo-Nazis were marching with tiki torches, chanting shit like Jews Will Not Replace Us and Blood and Soil... one of them murdered a counter-protestor by running her over with his goddamn car. That thing.
Sean Strife You sound real SJW. You voting for Biden?
@@JesusChrist-uu2te Literally nobody who cares about Social Justice is voting for Biden.
No idea who this guy is but he did nothing wrong
The Trapt singer didn’t do anything wrong? He’s being an immature dick to anyone who disagrees with him. A total douchebag. If i got this comment the wrong way i apologize.
Looks like I’m buying some Trapt merch now.
Let me know who you buy from 🤣
Yeah, to burn it afterwards.
@@te9591 due to the fact your cold and hungry from the liberal mindset. It's ok,I'm not being combative, just here to open to open your heart and mind. Be patient, be humble, love when you can't, it isn't impossible.
@@T1up4me12385 understood, but let's face it the guy needs to back off and not take on everyone, now it seens.
@@te9591 I could agree (since I understand your point and perspective), but when will we finally make a stand for what think/feel is right? Being pushed into a corner can only go on for so long. And the threshold for tolerance is over...time to be open and honest (just like the lgbtq is "allowed" to be). There's 2 sides to a coin, why can't ours be expressed as well? Give me your reason, give me your thoughts, give me your lack of sympathy which you choose/want to express. Can't have one without the other. Why can't both sides stand rightfully, with acknowledgement of the other? Answer that. And sincerely, thank you for not being combative without the lack of thought. I appreciate this discussion. 😔
Power Trip absolutely destroyed these guys. Another reason to love PT. I’m not even new to the metal community and I’ve never heard of Trapt lmao
Trapt's insults are so brain dead and moronic that nobody takes them seriously. They might as well be elementary school playground bullying.
@@NexusKin lol triggered snowflakes
Lol a buddy of mine played a show with Trapt down in NOLA where we live and the only people who showed up were for his opening slot.
Thanks for explaining this whole drama in just two minutes :)
Why do people feel the need to destroy someone's career/life just because they dont agree with his political view?
He also defended ped0ph1l14
@Gabriel Alejandre 2016 called, it wants its ad hominem fallacies back.
Makes me like trapt more
Good for them! Don’t be bullied into silence by the worst kind of people our society has to offer
If they had an anti-trump opinion, they’d be praised I’m sure
I feel sooooo bad fot the rest of the bandmates
Which ones at this point? The only good members were Simon Ormandy, Robb Torres and Aaron Montgomery, and they all left the band after 2010's "No Apologies," the last decent album Trapt ever made.
Its just twitter mafia... All trans non blah blah blah ... Who caresss... Hes right
many cases he isn't right and frankly he sounds more like an immature twit than anyone else
@@RockyTop85 No he's right when he says things like white privilege isn't a real thing
You seem preoccupied with trans people
@@djcogdill9263 perhaps, but not for the reasons you think.
At least Trapt has the balls to actually speak their minds and are willing to own their opinions. Unlike other losers who jump on Twitter and claims everything and everyone who disagrees with them are racist, homophobic, etc.
If Trapt gets cancelled nothing of value will be lost. In fact the world might gain value
Wtf I love Trapt now
Now I love trapt even more 🤘🤘
this is the only reason I sometimes like twitter. It's so entertaining
Ik right juicy stories lol
Oh so he was telling unpopular truths and irreverent people didn't like it. That's Twitter.
Trapt: A band where all 4 members are Meg Griffin.
Doesn't this guy know that posting a comment on Twitter with an even remotely conservative leaning is like dumping chum in shark waters?
That might have been the point
I was a big-time nu metal fan as a teen, still like a lot of classic nu metal like KoRn and SlipKnoT (enough that my inner adolescent self still insists upon typing their names that way), and I always thought Trapt was weak as shit. I can see somebody's favorite band being KoRn or SlipKnoT (probably somebody in their teens/early twenties) but I cannot picture a hardcore Trapt fanatic. At best, they were always "Oh, they're cool. I like Headstrong."
One-hit-wonder, much?
@@BaranoffIsaac I don't have a backwards R on my keyboard. Don't worry though, I was true to the backwards R on all my middle school binders and folders 😈
Even Five Finger Death Punch is heavier and more aggressive and talented than Trapt.