I think the ring work as intended in term of haste buff when full health. It activates when we "receive healing effect" not when we heal. Summoner trait gives us on-going healing effect so the ring should also give us continuous haste buff. (even without summoner trait, we can still get on-going regen from the ring and it will trigger continuous haste in the same way) The question is, why it affects the attack power of minion.
Not sure why it slowly brings the damage up, but it is because they’re technically a skill. Unless there damage is coded differently because they’re a skill. Because it effects turrets as well, I assume it’s a coding thing.
@@h13n12 I see your point, however it’s miles above what we had in the first game…which was nothing. I’ll take it, even if it’s functionality is somewhat limited.
Worth knowing, I’ve found if you pre-summon before you go into a boss room they can often get stuck outside and take a while to join you. Very annoying.
Passive healing is always active whether you are at full health or not. You get the constant haste bc your summoner achetype is constantly trying to heal you
@@Born2Gameeven if you do afk, if the boss summons minions they’ll attack the minions and if the boss has a massive AOE attack it’s pretty much worthless. If not then sure it’ll probably work but you also gotta take into mind that the AI are very dumb sometimes.
@Born2Game afk what exactly? Don't they need to be attacking something for the damage to stack? Wanna tell me what's going to let you do that afk and not die/clear ads Maybe not afk but yes you could technically do that Or use archon and one shot most bossesb
Any movement at all starts to reset the damage Edit: I was wrong actually it still works but you can't use relics so using the generating band ring and rerouting cable ring will help keep you alive
Damage Definitely isn’t intended because when u do some movement such as roll it resets. However it is cool but realistically you’ll never rlly be able to hit the numbers consistently in game so
uh, I thought I was crazy but it seems I wasn't. I was telling my friends: "I AM SURE these summons do better if I do nuthin'!" I couldn't figure out why tho lol
Love how everyone is saying this RING IS BROKEN OMG but like if you have to AFK for an hour or more to make it work its def not game breaking. Is it broken and working as intended? Nah but its not game breaking its not like you can just run around and hit stuff for 10000000000000s of dmg whenever you feel like
I mean something not working as intended is in fact broken. If there's a way to easily cheese bosses, people will do it. Lots of people will often take the path of least resistance. Now personally I don't really care (long as someone doesn't join my game and ruin the experience for me by deleting bosses), but the developers did design this game with challenge in mind and waiting outside a boss room for awhile then deleting the boss in one hit isn't exactly how I imagine they wanted people to beat apocalypse for example. So they're within their rights to fix this if they want to.
@@BalianBlue_ Have you played remnant? what boss you going to cheese by afking in the arena for 2 hours then kill it? BTW you cant move jumpr crouch run or walk without it reseting the dmg ive tested it myself soo please tell me how they are going to cheese a boss with it? Like i said you cant stand in the arena and if you stand outside the second you move boom dps bonus gone
not sure what is more confusing here... the fact that haste is amping summon damage with unlimited scale, or the fact half the comments are trying to justify it as being somehow normal
Interesting. Can't wait to try. I don't know if the first one had any of these issues. But, I know you could do an insane 1 shot build with a little rng. I think they let it roll for those who think bosses need to be tuned down.
It's useless you literally have to stand still just for it to go up if you shot, pop a skill, or anything it reset but it's fun to watch in shooting ring that's all it's useful for dude making it's sound like it's a game breaking bug
I actually wouldnt say this is broken, the summoner has a trait that heals your summons and tbh I don't see the point in healing them vs just letting them go down and resummon them because it doesn't take a relic. Maybe it scales higher than necessary but I don't think it's a bug imho
You don’t need to shoot to reset it resets when you point your weapon you can only run around and go in menu and do that but you can’t point your weapon i was hitting over 100k one shotting bosses 😂
It’s resets when you roll I was trying it but it only went up in damage after they hit something I stayed afk for about ten mins and the did next to no damage
It's not a game glitch Man the game the ring itself is set to give you constant haste if your constant healing so if you use let's say for instance tranquil heart. Because the heart is giving you constant healing little the ring give you constant Haste when you combine them then adding regrowth rate increases & also triage is a plus.
It works as intended, overhealing is a mechanic in the game so there's that, in terms of it being broken I don't think so cuz its annoying to use, you ain't gonna fight, you'll have to wait an absurd amount of time to have em dealing considerable DMG. Imagine waiting 15min minimum on every dungeon and a boss fight xD not counting that you might get one shot or fall a ledge and repeat the process 😂😂
The ring does not work as intended, haste should not infinitely scale summon damage and going afk for damage making it annoying doesn’t stop something being broken
I don't think there's any problem with this you yourself just demonstrated in this video did it kind of useless in actual gameplay so what looks like you basically can't do anything other than walk around otherwise it resets making it basically useless I have a feeling even going through a boss door would reset it
@@Born2Game maybe not but seems like just about everything else does I mean if you can get there with it active cool have fun with it but I just don't think you can very reliably anyway
Iv done everything in remnant, got the plat absolutely loved it. I don’t need any damage cheeses 😂 just use the bonesaw, with maxed out extra ammo capacity with fire rounds all crit rings mate I’m getting up to 70k a clip 😂
@@ProfesorFrodoJSchitz The damage numbers you see at the test range are going to be different to actual enemies because enemies have armour and resistances and the dummies don't.
@@iamme625people forget this though. Like the videos saying “33k dps” & in reality, no. It’s more accurately 1-3k, but like you said, certain enemies it will be even less, especially on harder difficulties 😂
@@odin-i-4592 you have it right, get 15 blood essence from the purple wisps during bloodmoon and the you can buy the book to unlock summoner. It's total rng on bloodmoon spawning. Once you get it there will be a reddish purple tint to the sky also DO NOT go through mist walls or use crystal until you get how many blood essence you need/want. It's ok after you kill all the orbs in the level to use liquid death or let enemies kill you and you respawn at crystal that will not lose the bloodmoon but if you use the crystal to teleport or invite someone to the level it will lose the bloodmoon.. Levels may have roughly around 4 to 9 wisps (it's random) but they will just respawn when you die so you can farm them pretty quickly. It may be a pain waiting on the bloodmoon to appear though. I got lucky and had one the other day and unlocked the class. It was totally random because I had been trying to get it to spawn by teleporting in/out several times with no luck then when I was just playing the game it unexpectedly happened when I loaded in a section while playing.
@@markadams5009Everyone makes it sound more complicated than it actually is. Also you can exit and not lose the bloodmoon. It should last for roughly 20mins
@Born2Game seen another brotato type game called "Pickle Pete " think it may be mobile only but it has a much more in depth way which is quite interesting. Maybe worth a look
Disagree with you first things first you'll need to keep the minions alive for them to work up those insane damage which can be a lil difficult at times which definitely be a lot harder to do that in apocalypse sure it's possible to keep them alive but still it's bad enough they want to nerf all the other shit that doesn't need fucking nerfed in the first place and on top of it they should already know what the fuck their product does before they fucking sell shit to the public it's called Indian giving which actually should be illegal.
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I think the ring work as intended in term of haste buff when full health. It activates when we "receive healing effect" not when we heal. Summoner trait gives us on-going healing effect so the ring should also give us continuous haste buff. (even without summoner trait, we can still get on-going regen from the ring and it will trigger continuous haste in the same way)
The question is, why it affects the attack power of minion.
That's exactly what I was thinking.
Not sure why it slowly brings the damage up, but it is because they’re technically a skill. Unless there damage is coded differently because they’re a skill. Because it effects turrets as well, I assume it’s a coding thing.
I don't even know what haste does exactly
I have no idea but that’s what is breaking it
Haste gives 7% Speed on anything your character can do. Run, fire, reload, use a skill all goes 7% faster with haste.
You should update your title to show that this has now been fixed in a patch and will no longer keep increasing the damage of minions.
On a side note,…I’m so glad they put this shooting range in the game so we can test out damage on builds…
I’m glad too, it helps out so much with builds 👍
Just a bit annoying for bleed builds since you can’t test it there.
@@h13n12 I see your point, however it’s miles above what we had in the first game…which was nothing. I’ll take it, even if it’s functionality is somewhat limited.
@@h13n12 Yet we can make robots bleed🤣🤣
@@screaminseaman6121 they bleed oil instead of blood if i had to guess.
Worth knowing, I’ve found if you pre-summon before you go into a boss room they can often get stuck outside and take a while to join you. Very annoying.
Passive healing is always active whether you are at full health or not. You get the constant haste bc your summoner achetype is constantly trying to heal you
I think they should be left alone. In most fights especially boss fights, they won't live long enough to reach those numbers.
You can afk outside a boss room, let them build their damage and then go in and one tap bosses
@@Born2Gameeven if you do afk, if the boss summons minions they’ll attack the minions and if the boss has a massive AOE attack it’s pretty much worthless. If not then sure it’ll probably work but you also gotta take into mind that the AI are very dumb sometimes.
@Born2Game afk what exactly? Don't they need to be attacking something for the damage to stack? Wanna tell me what's going to let you do that afk and not die/clear ads
Maybe not afk but yes you could technically do that
Or use archon and one shot most bossesb
@Xris856 that’s where you’re very wrong
Any movement at all starts to reset the damage
Edit: I was wrong actually it still works but you can't use relics so using the generating band ring and rerouting cable ring will help keep you alive
From what I can tell dodge rolls reset the damage back to normal. Crouching also resets it
Really?? Damn that kinda ruins it for me.
It doesn’t reset from either of those it only resets from shooting enemies.
@@D_a-r-k idk. Mine stopped working instantly for everything minor
it only resets from crouching i tested it
That sounds like a bunch of conflicting results
Meaning it's obviously not working as intended
this makes no sense, why would haste stack their damage? Regen activating the ring constantly is fine, i just dont get why its amping their damage
Damage Definitely isn’t intended because when u do some movement such as roll it resets. However it is cool but realistically you’ll never rlly be able to hit the numbers consistently in game so
When you go out of the last bosses arena they'd be pretty useful
uh, I thought I was crazy but it seems I wasn't.
I was telling my friends: "I AM SURE these summons do better if I do nuthin'!"
I couldn't figure out why tho lol
Doesnt seem broken to me. You can't do anything while they attack. I'd do is explore and let them take care of enemies.
This is really only broken for Summoner class. It works as intended for every other class.
Love how everyone is saying this RING IS BROKEN OMG but like if you have to AFK for an hour or more to make it work its def not game breaking. Is it broken and working as intended? Nah but its not game breaking its not like you can just run around and hit stuff for 10000000000000s of dmg whenever you feel like
I mean something not working as intended is in fact broken. If there's a way to easily cheese bosses, people will do it. Lots of people will often take the path of least resistance. Now personally I don't really care (long as someone doesn't join my game and ruin the experience for me by deleting bosses), but the developers did design this game with challenge in mind and waiting outside a boss room for awhile then deleting the boss in one hit isn't exactly how I imagine they wanted people to beat apocalypse for example. So they're within their rights to fix this if they want to.
It’s broken even if it requires going afk for an hour, it stops you being able to use the ring and the summoner combined in a legit way
@@BalianBlue_ Have you played remnant? what boss you going to cheese by afking in the arena for 2 hours then kill it? BTW you cant move jumpr crouch run or walk without it reseting the dmg ive tested it myself soo please tell me how they are going to cheese a boss with it? Like i said you cant stand in the arena and if you stand outside the second you move boom dps bonus gone
What other rings do you have equipped? What is generating the big damage output of the summons?
Nothing generates it anymore because it’s patched
I say leave it alone and just have fun with it, the beauty of remnant. That is why i enjoyed the first game so much. Good video!
Thank you 👍
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Nothing beats a video of someone running around pointlessly in town for 8 min. Like we dont get that enough from random groups already....
The deaths embrace amulet has given me the bonus while at full hp too
Wonder what happens to the damage numbers if you shoot your summons to put them in rage mode
Nothing because it’s patched
Use it with the handler so the doggo can heal the summons if needed ;-)
only thing im missing it that damn armor. beat the game & whispers still didnt have it >.>
not sure what is more confusing here...
the fact that haste is amping summon damage with unlimited scale,
or the fact half the comments are trying to justify it as being somehow normal
Interesting. Can't wait to try. I don't know if the first one had any of these issues. But, I know you could do an insane 1 shot build with a little rng. I think they let it roll for those who think bosses need to be tuned down.
For me the ring was available ever since the very start of the game, was just too expensive for a while and couldn't buy it
Damn thats crazy... Annihilation boss here i come!
Weird that this doesn't seem to work for me at all. I've had the ring since starting my summoner playthrough. Getting normal damage numbers.
those summon will die before it can get up in dps in apocalypse
It's useless you literally have to stand still just for it to go up if you shot, pop a skill, or anything it reset but it's fun to watch in shooting ring that's all it's useful for dude making it's sound like it's a game breaking bug
It’s a game breaking bug because it stops you using the ring and summoner normally
did you test this with turrent since it counts as a summon
It works with the turret
It works with turrets 👍
Nothing on terms of dps needs fixing dont make it like remnant 1
I actually wouldnt say this is broken, the summoner has a trait that heals your summons and tbh I don't see the point in healing them vs just letting them go down and resummon them because it doesn't take a relic. Maybe it scales higher than necessary but I don't think it's a bug imho
Loading screens touching the crystal or healing resets it it seems liek using a relic
You don’t need to shoot to reset it resets when you point your weapon you can only run around and go in menu and do that but you can’t point your weapon i was hitting over 100k one shotting bosses 😂
It’s resets when you roll I was trying it but it only went up in damage after they hit something I stayed afk for about ten mins and the did next to no damage
Definitly gonna try this thanks
You’re welcome 👍
Well time to start using the Summoner and never shoot again xD
Devs please leave the game alone. If ppl cheese it, it's their own business. This is not a pvp game.
This isn’t a cheese, this breaks the ability to use the ring and the summoner normally
It's not a game glitch Man the game the ring itself is set to give you constant haste if your constant healing so if you use let's say for instance tranquil heart. Because the heart is giving you constant healing little the ring give you constant Haste when you combine them then adding regrowth rate increases & also triage is a plus.
If it wasn’t a glitch they wouldn’t have patched it. Haste isn’t supposed to make your summons infinitely scale damage, it was a glitch
This would be broken, if the flyers didnt just die immediatly at high difficulty.
tried this today and couldn't get it to work. Did they patch it out?
On PC it’s patched and console it will be soon
It works as intended, overhealing is a mechanic in the game so there's that, in terms of it being broken I don't think so cuz its annoying to use, you ain't gonna fight, you'll have to wait an absurd amount of time to have em dealing considerable DMG. Imagine waiting 15min minimum on every dungeon and a boss fight xD not counting that you might get one shot or fall a ledge and repeat the process 😂😂
The ring does not work as intended, haste should not infinitely scale summon damage and going afk for damage making it annoying doesn’t stop something being broken
I'm gonna go grocery shopping and come back see how OP it is lmao
Let me know the damage numbers 👍
How many times you just stand around :)) everything works as it should
This isn’t working as it should
mine stops after I move a inch or crouch
Someone said you can’t dodge roll. Is that true? I want to try this build on the final boss. But I 100% need to dodge roll for that lmao
I’m not sure if you can
I don't think there's any problem with this you yourself just demonstrated in this video did it kind of useless in actual gameplay so what looks like you basically can't do anything other than walk around otherwise it resets making it basically useless I have a feeling even going through a boss door would reset it
I don’t think going through a boss door resets it
@@Born2Game maybe not but seems like just about everything else does I mean if you can get there with it active cool have fun with it but I just don't think you can very reliably anyway
I have the ring on and it’s not working
Iv done everything in remnant, got the plat absolutely loved it. I don’t need any damage cheeses 😂 just use the bonesaw, with maxed out extra ammo capacity with fire rounds all crit rings mate I’m getting up to 70k a clip 😂
Already jeezus
@@vicorruption3345 yea man, literally I work game see my kid repeat 😂 the traits took the longest
Patched.
Why do you have -1 bleed resistance? Maybe thats what your healing?
I have no idea
I believe it’s the devs fixed it
works only with summoner ? I got the ring on my HUNTER and does SHIT ! :(
Yeah because of the health regen on the archetype
Was this fixed?
Yeah
i though this no longer works after the latest patch
It doesn’t
they must have patched it overnight
It still works for me
Not broken at all, cant use on bosses it resets when you go through doors.
It’s broken, it stops you being able to use the ring and summoner together normally and haste shouldn’t be infinitely scaling summon damage
I think your roll resets it.
but it ain't work on venom nor annihilation
It’s been patched
Looks normal. 👌🏻
Ps5 everything bug
doesn't work
It got patched
Wild 😅
I assume damage is limited to the enemy health ive hit things for 5 damage
I don’t think it’s limited
I was farming the chimney and I noticed one trash always dies with 427 health and if I somehow didn't hit exactly that it would add up to 427
It is. I hit for over 3k with my bow and trash mobs only show 429
@@ProfesorFrodoJSchitz The damage numbers you see at the test range are going to be different to actual enemies because enemies have armour and resistances and the dummies don't.
@@iamme625people forget this though. Like the videos saying “33k dps” & in reality, no. It’s more accurately 1-3k, but like you said, certain enemies it will be even less, especially on harder difficulties 😂
Struggling to get the summoner class
Make sure there’s an item in front of the grates, the monster will grab you in and as long as you’re not in the sewers you’ll get the archetype
@@Born2Game I thought you got the summoner archetype by collecting the purple things in the sky with bloodmoon? Then buying the book
@@odin-i-4592 you have it right, get 15 blood essence from the purple wisps during bloodmoon and the you can buy the book to unlock summoner. It's total rng on bloodmoon spawning. Once you get it there will be a reddish purple tint to the sky also DO NOT go through mist walls or use crystal until you get how many blood essence you need/want. It's ok after you kill all the orbs in the level to use liquid death or let enemies kill you and you respawn at crystal that will not lose the bloodmoon but if you use the crystal to teleport or invite someone to the level it will lose the bloodmoon..
Levels may have roughly around 4 to 9 wisps (it's random) but they will just respawn when you die so you can farm them pretty quickly. It may be a pain waiting on the bloodmoon to appear though. I got lucky and had one the other day and unlocked the class. It was totally random because I had been trying to get it to spawn by teleporting in/out several times with no luck then when I was just playing the game it unexpectedly happened when I loaded in a section while playing.
@@markadams5009Everyone makes it sound more complicated than it actually is. Also you can exit and not lose the bloodmoon. It should last for roughly 20mins
Its not broken though... because you cant do anything. Take no actions... reality they are dead before even get close...
Infinite scaling damage is broken even if you can’t do anything
I tried this summons in final boss but it s useless
it got patched
It’s been patched
No longer happens, pretty sure they patched it
They did
Why u saying it's broken thats going to make the devs fix it when it's fun
It was patched on PC 10 days ago now
It doesn’t really help much lol but it’s cool
I hate whispers
Don't fix this Gunfire
Games!!😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣
@Born2Game seen another brotato type game called "Pickle Pete " think it may be mobile only but it has a much more in depth way which is quite interesting. Maybe worth a look
Patched
Looks incredibly boring.
But that type of technology os toooooo advanced for Diablo 4 Devs…
didnt work
I wonder why
Noooo,….working as intended,…don’t fix this…😅😅😅
That shit is not broke
It stops you using the ring and summoner together without infinitely scaling summon damage, that’s broken
Disagree with you first things first you'll need to keep the minions alive for them to work up those insane damage which can be a lil difficult at times which definitely be a lot harder to do that in apocalypse sure it's possible to keep them alive but still it's bad enough they want to nerf all the other shit that doesn't need fucking nerfed in the first place and on top of it they should already know what the fuck their product does before they fucking sell shit to the public it's called Indian giving which actually should be illegal.
Do you have a discord??
Yeah, it’s linked in the description 👍