I have a tlx with essentially the same engine and transmission and weighs probably 1000lbs less. It has no grip at all from a start and can rip off a 5.3 sec run to 60. On the freeway, can easily stay with 350z/ 370z Not bad for an unassuming sedan that I got for 10k off msrp brand new
Absolute winner for Honda. Naturally aspirated superb V6, and good dimensions. Great competitor to Jeep Grand Cherokee which is the only other solid two row SUV in the market (Murano has a CUV, Edge is front wheel drive, Chevy's Blazer is a Mexican built abomination, and Toyota has no competitor unless you consider dinosaur era 4-Runner one, but it rides like a Ox-cart)
This Passport isn't remotely akin to a Jeep Grand Cherokee. It doesn't have proper 4WD. It doesn't even have real AWD. It has low profile tires at every trim level - exactly what you don't want in an SUV that you use for anything other than "minivan" duties. In fact, the Pilot and Pssport are really just modified minivans. FWD monocoque platform, flimsy indy suspensions all around. It's a mommy wagon plain and simple. The addition of black cladding means it also appeals to cross-dressing daddys. The Jeep Grand Cherokee is a RWD platfform with true 4WD and a two speed transfer case. You can equip the Grand Cherokee for utility duty. You can't equip a Passport for anything but the mall parking lot. If you go offroading anywhere that actually constitutes offroading, you will never see a Passport, Pilot, Highlander or any other minivan adaptation. Why? Because they are flimsy and delicate and can't handle true rough terrain. It's a total poseur vehicle for guys who haven't yet gotten in touch with their inner minivan fan.
@@j.r.b.5464 Wow you sound like you live an exciting lifestyle. Equipping for utility duty and everything, impressive. I don't really need all that. I do like my car to handle construction sites, and snow storms. My passport is pretty capable with zero "equipping for duty". I just drive toward trouble and inevitably start cracking up because this car is so fun to drive off of the pavement. No locking of differentials. Much less of a true off-road utility vehicle for sure. I am not crossing the Sierras on the regular, but if I had a chance to overland with my Elite I'd be more than confident (with a wheel replacement as you pointed out, of course ; ). Also, I don't see many passports anywhere, do you?
@JR Ummm what’s solid about the Jeep GC?? It’s an unreliable POS. You act like I live at Glacier National Park or something. All I need my future Elite for is to handle a snowstorm if I’m on the east coast or a nice fun day at the beach. This truck is a beast. Have fun laying in bed before going to sleep and pondering “I wonder if my Jeep will start tomorrow.”
@@j.r.b.5464 somebody swallowed the 80s macho marketing wholesale and has sadly staked his entire existence on it... get a real identity, "poseur" lmao
Formerly the original pilot, which is more impressive than the current pilot, same size as the CR-V, which makes it the perfect compromise to pilot/mdx.
Good review Love your show since i was a teenager. John Davis you might ant to tell us..how to stay at a job for so long without getting bored or getting pissed off at co-workers or vice versa....
@@RallyLancer95 : Are you really buying SUVs for their performance potential? This Passport is decently quick. Most people place the utility SUVs offer above performance. I don't know about you but I buy sports cars for performance.
@@1MarkKeller Have taken it off road, just a little bit Some people wonder about the increased height but we think it is great Much better clearance for curbs, gravel , etc
Only two things they did wrong with this. 1: should’ve used the new 10 speed. 2: the back exterior looks to much like an Explorer. Needs better tail lights.
It's such a shame, Toyota can make very capable vehicles but they cut so many corners on their cheap interiors that almost all of their vehicles are too uncomfortable to be in :/
Already curious to see how the 2022 refreshed Passport is gonna look when the Pilot gets redesigned for 2022 (I'm assuming) lol... This should've been just called the "Pilot Sport".
What I don't understand though, is why so many reviews mentioned fact of pilot, Ridgeline, and passport, and Odyssey share... but no mention for other manufacturers that share, like keep has two doors, 4, and now truck which shares in same way and many others. It's a way to keep costs low and still offer some variations.
I guess the marketing people at honda know more than I do, because i dont understand the necessity of a shorter pilot. it doesnt have any significant off road capability. seems like you get all the disadvantages of the pilot (fuel economy) without any of the advantages of being a smaller, supposedly more "adventurous" vehicle.
Solid review, thx! I love the sportier Passport look & front/grill that looks like a Lexus RX350!! 🤙😎 I prefer a stick, but LOVE the buttons for wives who can no longer shift into D while the vehicle is still rolling backward! 😉😊
When you reviewed the new chevy blazer you said that 15.7 barrels of oil and 7.1 tons of co2 was worse than average...but for this review, you said that 15.7 barrels of oil and 7.1 tons of co2 was slightly below average...what the hell is going on!
I've owned a CR-V before but I like this better than the newer ones. I would definitely chose this over a CR-V. But I'll still chose my Reatta over any modern crossover
I heard these weren’t selling well. I’m not surprised. Many people are going toward the Pilot and Highlander first. The Toyota 4 Runner is in a class of its own. It looks like the Passport was designed to compete with the 4 Runner but can’t keep up. I would definately buy a Toyota first over a Honda. I’m also surprised that Honda even put a German ZF transmission in their vehicles. They are junk.
"...The Blazer is the family vehicle that actually appeals to the whole family, and for that reason it upsets the Honda(Passport)on its home court." I think the Motor Trend staff was weeping when they wrote that!
Honda has made some pretty weak automatic transmissions in recent decades and especially their 9-speed automatic. This same transmission has been very very problematic and unreliable in the recent Honda Odyssey Minivan. Unfortunately Honda is no longer a slam dunk choice.
You mean the transmission designed & built by ZF Friedrichshafen that Honda uses, as do various car manufacturers. Honda didn't design or build this ZF 9-speed transmission.
Oil dilution? Like water got into your oil? How did that happen? I'm considering a Honda because everyone always says their the best but I've never been let down by my Nissans so I'm nervous to jump ship.
@@tonychau1983 lol, oh no, they're very different...5 passenger suv with a v6 drivetrain...yep worlds apart. Much like the rav4 and highlander. Soooo different.
@@jamesbensch6 No kidding..Reattas were ahead of their time..cool cars..Not a carbon copy SUV like this Whole Foods Mobile that nobody will ever take offroad.
@@jamesbensch6 Reatta and 'cool' should never be used in the same sentence. The Reatta was one the ugliest cars of all time. Fortunately for Reatta owners, the Pontiac Aztek, and the AMC Gremlin were (just barely) uglier. PS, you paid five grand for a Buick Regatta?! That's something I would never publicly admit to. LOL!
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John Davis is still at MotorWeek after almost 40 years?! That's what you call staying power!
He still sounds and (almost) looks the same too!
@@georgecostanza2695 ...well...he sounds the same anyways...
He needs to lay off that tan spray though
I still love this guy from the days when he was on TV doing this and we didn’t have the internet!
3:54 "0-60 6.5" just fine?? thats hella good!!!! 60-0 is 112ft..., that's phenomenal
I thought he down played that a bit as well...amazing..
Allan Desmond That breaking is sports car territory, and I mean real sports car territory
Fr lol go honda wtf!
hurricane watcher yeah. With grippier tires, easily into the 5 seconds range
I have a tlx with essentially the same engine and transmission and weighs probably 1000lbs less. It has no grip at all from a start and can rip off a 5.3 sec run to 60. On the freeway, can easily stay with 350z/ 370z Not bad for an unassuming sedan that I got for 10k off msrp brand new
Absolute winner for Honda. Naturally aspirated superb V6, and good dimensions. Great competitor to Jeep Grand Cherokee which is the only other solid two row SUV in the market (Murano has a CUV, Edge is front wheel drive, Chevy's Blazer is a Mexican built abomination, and Toyota has no competitor unless you consider dinosaur era 4-Runner one, but it rides like a Ox-cart)
This Passport isn't remotely akin to a Jeep Grand Cherokee. It doesn't have proper 4WD. It doesn't even have real AWD. It has low profile tires at every trim level - exactly what you don't want in an SUV that you use for anything other than "minivan" duties. In fact, the Pilot and Pssport are really just modified minivans. FWD monocoque platform, flimsy indy suspensions all around. It's a mommy wagon plain and simple. The addition of black cladding means it also appeals to cross-dressing daddys.
The Jeep Grand Cherokee is a RWD platfform with true 4WD and a two speed transfer case. You can equip the Grand Cherokee for utility duty. You can't equip a Passport for anything but the mall parking lot. If you go offroading anywhere that actually constitutes offroading, you will never see a Passport, Pilot, Highlander or any other minivan adaptation. Why? Because they are flimsy and delicate and can't handle true rough terrain.
It's a total poseur vehicle for guys who haven't yet gotten in touch with their inner minivan fan.
@@j.r.b.5464 Wow you sound like you live an exciting lifestyle. Equipping for utility duty and everything, impressive. I don't really need all that. I do like my car to handle construction sites, and snow storms. My passport is pretty capable with zero "equipping for duty". I just drive toward trouble and inevitably start cracking up because this car is so fun to drive off of the pavement. No locking of differentials. Much less of a true off-road utility vehicle for sure. I am not crossing the Sierras on the regular, but if I had a chance to overland with my Elite I'd be more than confident (with a wheel replacement as you pointed out, of course ; ). Also, I don't see many passports anywhere, do you?
@JR
Ummm what’s solid about the Jeep GC?? It’s an unreliable POS.
You act like I live at Glacier National Park or something. All I need my future Elite for is to handle a snowstorm if I’m on the east coast or a nice fun day at the beach. This truck is a beast.
Have fun laying in bed before going to sleep and pondering “I wonder if my Jeep will start tomorrow.”
J.R. Barnett my Honda passport would rip a hole in your slow ass Jeep on the road though 😂
@@j.r.b.5464 somebody swallowed the 80s macho marketing wholesale and has sadly staked his entire existence on it... get a real identity, "poseur" lmao
Formerly the original pilot, which is more impressive than the current pilot, same size as the CR-V, which makes it the perfect compromise to pilot/mdx.
Love the slider videography, those guys are pros.
Good review Love your show since i was a teenager. John Davis you might ant to tell us..how to stay at a job for so long without getting bored or getting pissed off at co-workers or vice versa....
Thank goodness they didn't go with the turbo crap.
Yeah fuck fun
@@RallyLancer95 Especially Honda's turbo crap!
Yay gas in my oil!
@GiovanniRomano the Honda 1.5t is more efficient that 2.4l?
@@RallyLancer95 : Are you really buying SUVs for their performance potential? This Passport is decently quick. Most people place the utility SUVs offer above performance. I don't know about you but I buy sports cars for performance.
Just bought the touring model and am just LOVING it 😉
I got the EXL ... but I wanted the Touring. Maybe in a year or two I will trade up.
@@1MarkKeller Have taken it off road, just a little bit Some people wonder about the increased height but we think it is great Much better clearance for curbs, gravel ,
etc
Don't care much for Honda these days but this thing seems quite impressive.
Who actually pays attention to the barrels of oil and tons of CO2? It is so abstract.
Only two things they did wrong with this.
1: should’ve used the new 10 speed.
2: the back exterior looks to much like an Explorer. Needs better tail lights.
Just got a Black Elite trim. Throw on some Nitto Ridge grappler tires, this thing is a beast.
Trieu Nguyen my goals, congrats man
yay no CVT
I love it. I want save up my money to get the Honda passport elite in gray
It’s crazy this has the same wheelbase as my Stelvio but so much bigger 🤯🤯
The Honda passport hit 88 mph and went back in time to 1990 to film this.
So it’s more than a pilot but smaller?????
Lol yea.. You're paying more for the extra off-road capability & more rugged look lol
Fantastic 2 row with very desirable torque vectoring AWD.
I wish it were more off road looking like a 4Runner or FJ. Or, I wish a 4Runner was as nice inside as this.
Haha that's a life. Can't get what we want.
It's such a shame, Toyota can make very capable vehicles but they cut so many corners on their cheap interiors that almost all of their vehicles are too uncomfortable to be in :/
@@spletest8977 well Toyota are known to do Reliable cars not fancy or fast cars. I hate Toyotas cus that reason
Get some big ole off road tires bam wish come true
Timpala44
There are plenty of people taking their Passport off-road trail but if are looking for a rock crawler then definitely need something else
Already curious to see how the 2022 refreshed Passport is gonna look when the Pilot gets redesigned for 2022 (I'm assuming) lol... This should've been just called the "Pilot Sport".
Baasil F. Blazer is made in Mexico too! Passport in the U.S.A.!
That 9 speed would be that ZF mess that Chrysler, Honda, and Landrover have been having issues with.
I would have pulled the trigger if they added a full panoramic roof in the elite trim.
For when mom is feeling sporty after the kids go off to college.
What I don't understand though, is why so many reviews mentioned fact of pilot, Ridgeline, and passport, and Odyssey share... but no mention for other manufacturers that share, like keep has two doors, 4, and now truck which shares in same way and many others. It's a way to keep costs low and still offer some variations.
They could’ve just made a pilot “adventure” edition, because it’s the same thing. LOL
They owned the Passport name and probably needed to use it to keep it exclusive. lol
It needs to be 5 grand cheaper. Otherwise it looks great !
Thats why I buy one 2 years old LOL
All vehicles today need to be 5 grand cheaper.
You can get a murano for that price
Tony Chau Muranos suck though
I love the Honda Passport
I guess the marketing people at honda know more than I do, because i dont understand the necessity of a shorter pilot. it doesnt have any significant off road capability. seems like you get all the disadvantages of the pilot (fuel economy) without any of the advantages of being a smaller, supposedly more "adventurous" vehicle.
SUVs are what sells now. More models for a company, the less chance of a lost sale to a competing company.
JonDZ Adventuring has a few videos up on off road driving in the Passport. Seems pretty capable.
Solid review, thx! I love the sportier Passport look & front/grill that looks like a Lexus RX350!! 🤙😎
I prefer a stick, but LOVE the buttons for wives who can no longer shift into D while the vehicle is still rolling backward! 😉😊
When you reviewed the new chevy blazer you said that 15.7 barrels of oil and 7.1 tons of co2 was worse than average...but for this review, you said that 15.7 barrels of oil and 7.1 tons of co2 was slightly below average...what the hell is going on!
MPG of 19 city and 24 hwy with an average of 24? The average is usually around 21 for those figures.
I remember wanting an Isuzu Impulse in High School.
Maybe you had a crush on Joe Isuzu!! LOL
Great vehicle indeed holy crap I’ve seen bad reviews on this baby and it makes no sense
BTW - What IS the difference between 'mud' and 'sand'?...😅
I've owned a CR-V before but I like this better than the newer ones. I would definitely chose this over a CR-V. But I'll still chose my Reatta over any modern crossover
I heard these weren’t selling well. I’m not surprised. Many people are going toward the Pilot and Highlander first. The Toyota 4 Runner is in a class of its own. It looks like the Passport was designed to compete with the 4 Runner but can’t keep up. I would definately buy a Toyota first over a Honda. I’m also surprised that Honda even put a German ZF transmission in their vehicles. They are junk.
I am getting the lunar silver or copper stone black.
I like it, but its way overpriced if it was 39k msrp for top of line would be better cause you can always get a few grand off at the dealer
17 is pilot your right
stovetop electric important
random : long dough trunk lid chugging stock though the wind blew of the tail another day not bib being tornado warning date
This is supposed to be more offroad capable so they should have stuck with 18 inch wheels and just give it bigger tires.
"...The Blazer is the family vehicle that actually appeals to the whole family, and for that reason it upsets the Honda(Passport)on its home court."
I think the Motor Trend staff was weeping when they wrote that!
It will outlast the blazer
@@garyburnett8225 Honda with ZF 9-speed that reviews are already complaining, get real!
Norm T
Complaining about the older 9spd but this is an improved 9spd and it does feel better than before plus upgraded internal parts
AWD is more syllables than "all wheel drive". I'm just sayin'.
Chopped off Pilot that costs more? Honda knows how to build a great car but they also know how to make money.
50k for american built honda. And this thing already has a recall. No thanks
Nice vehicle!!
Honda has made some pretty weak automatic transmissions in recent decades and especially their 9-speed automatic. This same transmission has been very very problematic and unreliable in the recent Honda Odyssey Minivan. Unfortunately Honda is no longer a slam dunk choice.
You mean the transmission designed & built by ZF Friedrichshafen that Honda uses, as do various car manufacturers. Honda didn't design or build this ZF 9-speed transmission.
No issues so far with this 2nd Gen 9spd Transmission.
I like the pilot better
I hate this car but I highly respect it for having real exhaust pipes!
I test drove this and I drove video games with better steering. Lightest steering feel ever. No feel at all
All wheel drive
John are you wearing tanner?
Cars capable of 5.8 to 60.
These guys leave it in normal mode.
Or they can't drive.
Turn on sport mode.
Idk, it just looks dated to me
Well it's based on a Pilot that's already been out for 4 years lol
@@b.f.378 aware lol
More than a SUV looks like a mini-bus!
Awesome
Wanna bet it'll be discontinued at some point 👉...😉
33k base price and you think it can compete with the santa fe that has a 25 k base price ! It is kinda ugly
The pricing is really over the top for sure.
Any vehicle in any price range can compete and win against a dang Hyundai
@@eightosaurusspelunk1598 Maybe 20 years ago
I’ll bet you lose more on a Santa Fe over let’s say 5 yrs then on the passport
See
Rims are just too big and ugly. How about 17” wheels instead.
OIL DILUTION. U GOT ME LAST TIME. U lost my trust. U lost a life time customer.
Oil dilution? Like water got into your oil? How did that happen? I'm considering a Honda because everyone always says their the best but I've never been let down by my Nissans so I'm nervous to jump ship.
Honda far from the best now days. I have a 2018 Accord. It’s meh.
@@spletest8977 Google OIL Dilution Honda. There's your answer.
Spletest I don’t think you are taking a very big risk to go from a Nissan to a Honda.
@@lil----lil Wrong engine. You're thinking of the 1.5T.
The rear styling is simply bland and boring.
Buy a CRV or Pilot...😉
Passport is better than both lol and no it won't be discontinued
The car just came out and already looks outdated
Hideous and lazy effort on Honda’s part
Oh look, a CR-V, but 2 inches longer.
Not even the same
@@tonychau1983 lol, oh no, they're very different...5 passenger suv with a v6 drivetrain...yep worlds apart. Much like the rav4 and highlander. Soooo different.
@@billgateskilledmyuncle23 drive one. It's not the same.
$50K for that frappuccino retriever? LOL. I'll take a '95 Passport. Idiots need to quit paying for this crap.
Lol I would never pay that much for a new car. If I were to even buy a new car. I'll stick with my Reatta. Cooler car and only cost me $5k
@@jamesbensch6 No kidding..Reattas were ahead of their time..cool cars..Not a carbon copy SUV like this Whole Foods Mobile that nobody will ever take offroad.
@@jamesbensch6 Reatta and 'cool' should never be used in the same sentence. The Reatta was one the ugliest cars of all time. Fortunately for Reatta owners, the Pontiac Aztek, and the AMC Gremlin were (just barely) uglier.
PS, you paid five grand for a Buick Regatta?! That's something I would never publicly admit to. LOL!
@@antiglobalist3739 fuck off troll