The Rode sounds professional; you can hear more characteristics and nuances from the bow which gives it a more live quality. The iPhone 12 has a nice quality to the sound though and it doesn't have the shrill tinny quality that cheaper microphones can have.
I agree with you. I was quite surprised how pretty the sound was from the iPhone. Not as detailed. Also what did you think about the difference in the low register?
@@mateuszwolski1704 The low register was very similar between the two; I could hear the difference, but only because I was listening for it. The Rode picks up more nuances, for instance at 3:13 it picks up more of the grit in the sound.
Great comparison- for most people for RUclips clips of violin recordings you have convinced me that if you have a good quality violin then the quality is fine for using the iPhone 12 Pro. In fact maybe string selections could make as much or more difference.
I would say that the set up of how far and how high the device is placed makes the biggest difference so far. I think that set up/string selection on the instrument can play a significant role. if you don't have to worry about projection but mostly response from the instrument then a set up that is easier to play will give a online performer an advantage. If someone does have the resources for the better microphone well then...
Firstly you are an incredible violinist I mean staggeringly good.. Second is a question. I sing and play violin and piano but am thinking of getting an I phone and using it naturally to stream on Facebook. I'm torn between an I phone 11 or a 12 or a 12 pro max but there's significant cost differences. Which mic do you liie most. Maybe I'm best off getting the I phone 11 and an external mic instead of the 12. Are the 11 and 12 pro very different in terms of audio quality or just the same? Thanks
Thank you for your compliment :) to be quite honest there is not that much difference in terms of sound recording quality between 11 and 12. Which external microphone were you thinking about? Also I really like the Zoom h5 recorder that I did a comparison video of here ruclips.net/video/tzu6qypsqog/видео.html
The iphone has less mid-high frequency(should be somewhere around let's say, from 2000/2500hz to around 6000/7000hz I guess), if you do the EQ you will understand exactly how it is. The mid-high range gives this kind of bright sound yet not with the hiss sound coming from the real high frequency(once you go above 10000hz). So the Rode NT4 has a more solid, brighter sound than the iPhone.
After listening with a reasonable headphone set up and bearing in mind the limitations of RUclips's audio compression, in my opinion the Rode NT4 is the better microphone, But it's a question of why you want to record. If its to make a commercial record, then with no doubt, the Rode wins hands down, but if it's for social media, practice or rehearsal, then the Iphone is more than good enough.
All, high tones as same as mids sounds much better on Rhode (listening on my iPhone and Monolith Monoprice M350 earphones). Rhode is more refind sounding and also clearer
That was my imression too that Iphone 12 max pro internal mic is pretty good. The rode is a bit better for sure. Would hou have any suggestion what mic is actually significantly better than the internal ones ?
Interesting... The iPhone sounds "tighter..." like the image is more constrained. The Rode lets me hear the internal air of the instrument a little better.
This is more or less the same discussion as the one around cellphone cameras vs. compact cameras vs. DSLR + good old glass + metall lenses: Microelectronics (and for the mic: silicon micro machines) did great catching up, for many not too complex recording/imaging situations, say: photos of sceneries in good light and audio in a room with studio-like conditions. When it comes to real-world situations, a specialised microphone pushes the limits, just as a bigger sensor and fat lens does (not even speaking of the changing image impression due to bokeh or large focal length). On the other hand: Cellphones widely depend on automatic functions (AGC, fixed compressor), which may fail in critical conditions or make postprocessing more time-intensive, just like bad autofocus or other unwanted effects like pumping of exposure. The solutions given by modern top-notch mobile devices might geht more recognition by pros, if their handling would not rely on limited touchdisplay interfaces. A good recording device needs certain controllers, reachable at any time using your fingers. This will always be the difference between amateur and professional working equipment.
Fantastic comparison! And just like with the iPhone camera is going to let an amateur take a decent picture while higher end stuff could lead to worse results. Same with playing - professional should just go to a studio with amazing microphones and a sound engineer that knows how to utilize them. Unless stuck home because of Covid...
@@theviolintech7632 "A fool with a tool is still a fool" - it's not proper equipment that makes one a pro, but it multiplies (to some extent) what a capable person can get out of the situation. The adversary argument is: the best is the one, you have with you. The last aspect: Proper recording is fine and ensures the joy of watching/hearing it, but the content/artist gives the project soul.
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The Rode sounds professional; you can hear more characteristics and nuances from the bow which gives it a more live quality. The iPhone 12 has a nice quality to the sound though and it doesn't have the shrill tinny quality that cheaper microphones can have.
I agree with you. I was quite surprised how pretty the sound was from the iPhone. Not as detailed. Also what did you think about the difference in the low register?
@@mateuszwolski1704 The low register was very similar between the two; I could hear the difference, but only because I was listening for it. The Rode picks up more nuances, for instance at 3:13 it picks up more of the grit in the sound.
@@akschauer you have a great ear 😄
Rode sounds a bit harsh honestly.
It might be my playing ;)
Great comparison- for most people for RUclips clips of violin recordings you have convinced me that if you have a good quality violin then the quality is fine for using the iPhone 12 Pro. In fact maybe string selections could make as much or more difference.
I would say that the set up of how far and how high the device is placed makes the biggest difference so far. I think that set up/string selection on the instrument can play a significant role. if you don't have to worry about projection but mostly response from the instrument then a set up that is easier to play will give a online performer an advantage. If someone does have the resources for the better microphone well then...
Great video! Thanks so much for sharing!
Thanks for watching!
Maybe an spectrogram could be of help to show the amount of frequencies recorded at the different sections of the audible spectrum.
Bravo, Maestro! Great video, very useful. Thank you very much!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you so much for posting this video! I’m hoping to get my first iPhone soon!
Yay, happy for you!
Thank you Thank you so much for the video!!!!!!! it HELPED A LOT, I got iPhone 12 pro and about to sell my camera and mic lol
If you get the set up right the iPhone delivers an amazing value.
Firstly you are an incredible violinist I mean staggeringly good.. Second is a question. I sing and play violin and piano but am thinking of getting an I phone and using it naturally to stream on Facebook. I'm torn between an I phone 11 or a 12 or a 12 pro max but there's significant cost differences. Which mic do you liie most. Maybe I'm best off getting the I phone 11 and an external mic instead of the 12. Are the 11 and 12 pro very different in terms of audio quality or just the same? Thanks
Thank you for your compliment :) to be quite honest there is not that much difference in terms of sound recording quality between 11 and 12. Which external microphone were you thinking about? Also I really like the Zoom h5 recorder that I did a comparison video of here ruclips.net/video/tzu6qypsqog/видео.html
Thank you!
The iphone has less mid-high frequency(should be somewhere around let's say, from 2000/2500hz to around 6000/7000hz I guess), if you do the EQ you will understand exactly how it is. The mid-high range gives this kind of bright sound yet not with the hiss sound coming from the real high frequency(once you go above 10000hz). So the Rode NT4 has a more solid, brighter sound than the iPhone.
Thank you so much for this analysis! This is awesome info!!!
beautiful midrange on iPhone.
solid high & low range on iPhone.
rode more punchy for high range
more clarity for lowrange.
Good ears!
After listening with a reasonable headphone set up and bearing in mind the limitations of RUclips's audio compression, in my opinion the Rode NT4 is the better microphone, But it's a question of why you want to record. If its to make a commercial record, then with no doubt, the Rode wins hands down, but if it's for social media, practice or rehearsal, then the Iphone is more than good enough.
All, high tones as same as mids sounds much better on Rhode (listening on my iPhone and Monolith Monoprice M350 earphones). Rhode is more refind sounding and also clearer
That was my imression too that Iphone 12 max pro internal mic is pretty good. The rode is a bit better for sure. Would hou have any suggestion what mic is actually significantly better than the internal ones ?
Interesting... The iPhone sounds "tighter..." like the image is more constrained. The Rode lets me hear the internal air of the instrument a little better.
Great video. Is there a microphone noise test
Hi, I didn't perform one. On my equipment I don't detect much noise but my equipment is in around $5K range not $50K ;)
An accurate comparison? The Zoom H6 can record up to 96kHz. Can the IPhone do that? Thanks for the video!
96kHz won't make it "sound" better though
I record at the highest bit rate. Then compress afterwards. And yes, it sounds better!
i think u should use the voice memo app not the camera with changing the setting of voice memo app to lossles not compressed
This is more or less the same discussion as the one around cellphone cameras vs. compact cameras vs. DSLR + good old glass + metall lenses: Microelectronics (and for the mic: silicon micro machines) did great catching up, for many not too complex recording/imaging situations, say: photos of sceneries in good light and audio in a room with studio-like conditions.
When it comes to real-world situations, a specialised microphone pushes the limits, just as a bigger sensor and fat lens does (not even speaking of the changing image impression due to bokeh or large focal length).
On the other hand: Cellphones widely depend on automatic functions (AGC, fixed compressor), which may fail in critical conditions or make postprocessing more time-intensive, just like bad autofocus or other unwanted effects like pumping of exposure.
The solutions given by modern top-notch mobile devices might geht more recognition by pros, if their handling would not rely on limited touchdisplay interfaces.
A good recording device needs certain controllers, reachable at any time using your fingers. This will always be the difference between amateur and professional working equipment.
Fantastic comparison! And just like with the iPhone camera is going to let an amateur take a decent picture while higher end stuff could lead to worse results. Same with playing - professional should just go to a studio with amazing microphones and a sound engineer that knows how to utilize them. Unless stuck home because of Covid...
@@theviolintech7632 "A fool with a tool is still a fool" - it's not proper equipment that makes one a pro, but it multiplies (to some extent) what a capable person can get out of the situation.
The adversary argument is: the best is the one, you have with you.
The last aspect: Proper recording is fine and ensures the joy of watching/hearing it, but the content/artist gives the project soul.
Completely agree!
ME ENCANTAN tus videos, es de muchísima ayuda para nosotros los músicos. P.D: tmb soy violinista. Saludos desde Paraguay.
Muchas gracias!
The iPhone has trouble controlling the high end... the rode has a much tighter, more controlled high end
NT4 is more than 2x cheaper than iphone 12 pro. Just saying :)
You definitely have a point;)