If you're looking for a new camera, which one are you going to get? GH5 or G9? Are anyof you GH5 owners going to ditch it for the G9? PhotoJoseph's Kit.com: kit.com/PhotoJoseph
I’m a GH5 owner and am very happy with it. As my main focus is filming the GH5 is the best choice for me. Thank you for your videos on the GH5 both on RUclips and Lynda online training.
I just wanted to comment to say that I 100% agree on the 10 minute record limit. That is a LONG time, even for an interview. For events, sure. But that is when you grab a camera that can shoot longer. But even then, people have shot weddings with the Canon DSLRs and those had limits too, so there is always a workaround.
Love the dual nature of the GH5; versatile video features while still being able to deliver descent stills to my clients. Thanks for getting in depth with the nitty and the gritty technical details. Your video has certainly helped clarify the purchasing options. Keep up the great work!
I''ve been a Canon shooter for 39 years, but I do like the Lumix line for certain events. It's nice at a reception to carry around a lighter camera than the canon r6 or 6D. The MFT sensor if fine for reception pics. I also have a G100 I use for video in the studio..
Personally considering switching to the g9 for VIDEO because of the larger viewfinder and the upgraded IBStabilizer. We hand hold at every wedding and love the freedom. Some of our Hawaiian wedding ceremonies can get over 30 minutes, We have wonderful reverends that sometimes incorporate the leis for the guest in the middle of the ceremony and or hula dancer + music. There is always a spot to hit start and stop. be blessed Frederick
I got the G9 because I just don't need the extra features in GH5. The video capabilities are good enough for me on the G9. But I would say you can't go wrong choosing either of these.
I love my G9. I also use it for portraits and product shots. I shoot sports for fun. I will probably get the blackmagic pocket cam for doing more video jobs. Love blackmagic raw.
Yeah when deciding between the two - take it from me, a guy who produces 90 minute feature length nature/hiking/backpacking/camping style documentaries - I can't think of one single time I pulled a 4K clip that was longer than about 4 minutes off my camera. And that was after me doing about 6 narration takes in one shot. I can think of very few use cases where a 10 minute video recording limit becomes significant.
Interviews. I'm a pretty experienced interviewer and I like to let folks talk and get relaxed, and have the conversation flow naturally. You might talk 20 minutes just to get one perfect eight-second clip-I've done it, certainly. Also there are presentations and performances where you want to let it roll. For me, at least, it's a consideration.
Totally right about the recording limitations on g9. 4k 60p I use maybe for a few minutes at a time at most. If I'm recording something longer, then I'm usually recording with audio, so I'd need to be in 24p anyway
one exception: when recording a concert or any event where the camera will remain steady and/or unattended on a tripod, but for instances like this you won't need the 60 fps and 25 will do
Thanks, very good discussion. I now have possession of my new G9, a great camera. I know its billed as a stills camera but I consider it an excellent hybrid camera, since it does great video as well. Because it has a great deal of capabilities, I'd be very interested in having a tutorial to go through. Sounds like you aren't interested but I'll put my vote in if it can help tip the scales.
As a journalist. I do interviews and no. We don't stop the camera. It keeps rolling. Continuous shoot is even more important for solo when you are the interviewer and the cameraman.
I agree. But before GH5 happened we had to make compromises. Unlike videographers, we can't log around big boxes and set a booth. We have to move around, attend keynotes and meet people so lighter is better and GH5 touched the sweet spot. The flip side, unlike my Nikon D810 that I sold, it's not a great camera for low light photography. So I am looking at something that can be accompanied with GH5 and that's what brought me to your video :)
That’s why I made this video my friend! After watching this, which specs sound more like what you need? Do you need the higher end video specs or the higher end stills specs?
I love the G85 a lot of camera for the $$$ - great way to get an affordable camera and invest your savings in great glass - Good glass is an investment - cameras come and go
10 minutes is a huge limitation for just about any RUclipsr in the niche I am in for example. The majority of my videos I have to let the videos run for 10-20 minutes most of the time. Thanks for the detailed information. :-)
A year ago, I couldn't decide between the GH5 and GH5S, so I took the shortcomings (low light and stabilization) of both in the GH4 instead and used the money on a Zhiyun gimbal as well as an Epiphan streaming box, not realizing that I wouldn't be able to use the gimbal with any cables tugging on the camera. Now, I'm at the point where I'm tempted to get a second camera body and find myself missing the stabilization more than the low light. The photo features of the G9 are quite tempting for product photography, but the video features of the GH5 are also quite tempting for recording events or if I ever want to get back into making a short film or colour grading. I don't have an Atomos recorder, but the GH4 can output 10-bit if I did, which would presumably be handy to match with the GH5. With 2 Oly (12-40 2.8 and 60 2.8) and 1 Panasonic (14-140 3.5-5.6) native lenses as well as a pair of 1st party DMW-BLF19 batteries, I'm pretty settled on sticking with the M43 system for now. I still just can't quite decide between these 2.
You can’t go wrong with the GH5. Still a flagship, still great for both stills and video. I shot all my stills in India this year on it. You won’t be disappointed if you buy one. And you can probably get a used one if finances are a concern.
@@photojoseph Thanks for the reply. After a shower, I found myself leaning that way. Right now, both cameras are on sale for 30% off SRP, the lowest ever, likely due to the G95 as much as anything. At first I saw the G9 at 30% while the GH5 was only 25% off, which tilted me towards it more, but finding the GH5 elsewhere for 30% off made me rethink that reasoning. For some time I was thinking that the high res mode would be a big part of what I'd want IBIS for, but the situations where it would be necessary or even viable (outside of product shots, but even then the final result would be for much lower res platforms) would be quite limited. 6k video, All Intra high bitrate codecs, and unlimited recording are pretty nice features to have.
Thanks! This was super informative. For commercial video, you definitely don't need more than 10 minutes. For weddings (although I usually shoot at 24p for ceremonies) the 10 minute record limit would be a dealbreaker. Thankfully for me, I'm so happy with my GH5 I don't see a big need to grab a G9. I'd rather grab a couple more GH5 or GH5s bodies and use the GH5 for stills as well as video. That's just me though.
I think the G9 is more of a hyrid, thr GH5 is geared towards videographers. Having said that, I have shot phots with the GH5 and I was more than happy with the results. There is so little diffrrence is quality you could almost flip a coin lol
Great video. I am selling my 5d mk iii due to it’s video limitations which I need. I don’t shoot sports/wildlife. However I shoot weddings & portrait sessions (stills + videos ). Short films for hobby. Would you suggest GH5 or G9?
Went from a Canon environment to Panasonic. I researched everything I needed and ended up with a GX8, now discontinued. I love this camera and its lenses (12-35, 35-100, 100-400) and have had more of my work published in six months than I had in many years with my Canon. The weight is terrific as is the menu system. So..if I had to now choose a Panasonic camera, I'd go with the photo/video emphasis as opposed to a video/photo emphasis. Reticulating screen is a must for me. So many other ways to accomplish 4K video, though my GX8 produces video that works for me. Amazing how many Leica looks I get.
Of you put non panasonic lenses in a Panasonic camera dfd will not work and tracking is going to be much worse. However usually it still pull decent focus on my g85 in video and still works great for static subjects.
*JOSEPH.. When You Were Talking EVF You Didn't Clarify What Camera Had the Cool Zoom Out //Smaller View to See So Eye Glass Wearers Could See the Whole View =Including Its Outter Edge? Thanks in Advance Joe :-)
At @16:33 I made my decision that the GH5 is what I need --- Unlimited Recording in 4k at 60fps as opposed to a 10 minute limit with the G9 --- Thank you so much for this clear comparison! 🤍
Thanks for explaining all differences, between the two in depth. It seems to me that the videographer has more advantages than the photographer. The limitations on video shooting of G9 are disappointing for the stills photographer, can't set aperture for slow mo as well as time limitations? Even though I am more of a stills person, love the possibility of taking slo mo but don't want point and shoot on this feature.
Panasonic Lumix G9 Question? "is There a video record Time Limit of 29.99 min on Usa version G9? like there is on all the eu // uk Pal versions always have??? Thank you in advance" John h Answers to your question Yes, there is a 30Min Video Recording Limit on HD Video, & 10min Limit On 4K Video Do to due to sensor heating in poor design of reducing heatsink mass? thus If Video is your focus then the GH5 is a much better choice for just additional $285.00 more ED
Hi Joseph As per your comparison, the screen size of GH5 and G9 is 3.2 inches. As per my understanding, G9 sports a 3 inch monitor. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Im save same money tô buy the gh5, i already have the 6D for photos, um thinking maybe on a7iii too,but the gh5 have nice reviews on yt saying the gh5 is better... I dont know what to do 🙈
The GH5 wins in almost every category except autofocus. Depends on what matters most to you! I use all GH5 and GH5S in my productions, from youtube to commercial work, and love them all
Thanks for this in-depth comparison. I’ve ordered the G9 as an upgrade to my GX8. Selling all my Canon 5D MII gear, as I’ve learned I like my back more than full frame. My question is I bought the Panasonic LUMIX G X 12-35 MI and the Panasonic LUMIX G X 35-100 MI when I bought the GX8. Why would I want the new MII versions? I am watching conflicting reports how these old lenses (ha 3 years) are now out dated or will not work with the newer IBIS. You mention in this comparison that lenses are the longer term investment. I feel my GX8 and my paired lenses are all obsolete.... What are the differences? I’ve updated all firmware. Thanks!
Not obsolete. You gain an extra ½ or so stop I.S. with the Mark II versions, when paired with the GH5 or G9. And improved weather sealing. But unless those are critical to your work, then don’t bother upgrading. Spend the money on another lens! You still get superb I.S. and weather sealing with the Mark I lenses. The newer ones are just slightly better. I did not upgrade mine.
PhotoJoseph Thank you! that’s great news. I was under the impression that the dual IS was null with the original pany OIS lenses when paired with the new IBIS. So I think I’ll add a new lens. What is your favorite and fastest 25mm lens for the GH5/G9? Sub $1000.
You answered this for me in the Jan 15th show. I’m on the PANASONIC LUMIX G LEICA DG NOCTICRON LENS, 42.5MM, F1.2. Thanks for the in-depth discussion. Also subscribed monthly.
Thanks for the video, very helpful. I’ve had a G7 for a very long time and wanted to upgrade, so after watching many videos and this very helpful video I decided to upgrade to the GH5. Managed to catch a good deal on Black Friday and I’m currently digging into the camera and tested out all the features.
PhotoJoseph One question though. I was wondering what you use to transcode the 10 bit and hire formats. I see that you are a Mac user as am I and did Final Cut have this feature built in or do I have to be searching for a plug-in to do the conversion? I am currently still on the iMovie but plan on upgrading to Final Cut within the month.
hi , if the g9 can shoot 60fps raw surely panasonic can give us gh5 users the option of shooting 25 fps 4k cinema dng raw video. Im very envious of black magic pocket cinema camera users. Common panasonic
Ok So it's 2020 and is the G9 worth buying for a videographer which is what I am. The answer is YES! I love your video awesome points, but since the G9 has had software updates Wow. With the filming you can now film with Mov, and you can film in 10 bit as well. The auto focus has been improved as well. As we all know there is no perfect camera. I've been using Panasonic for 5 Years now list as followed G7, G85, and now G9. Why the G9 well to be honest it comes down to price the G9 now is under 1,000 and you can film 4K at 60frams so that's huge. I totally agree that the G9 was geared more towards the photographers but I do believe especially now more videographers would drift to this camera and this is just my opinion I believe for video it's the best camera for under $1,000. I've also used Sony A7III which is amazing for video, amazing auto focus which helps a ton if you're filming wedding, great at low lighting, but can't film 4K @60 and the screen also just flip up and not to the side, and lastly the stabilization on the G9 is better than Sony I believe because Panasonic is micro 4/3 more room Sony full Fram less room because the sensor is bigger. sorry for rambling on
While I am very much interested in a G9 I still wonder if it is the best option for me. I do shoot some sports and dancing so the extra burst speed might be nice to have some times but what I have seems to get enough keepers as it is. My G7 is great in general but do often find the AF could be faster and its low light performance could use a boost too. I am guessing the G9 should be a lot faster at focusing but have not seen much low light shooting or experiences shooting in lower light conditions to know if there is an improvement there. Then there is the price with is still significant especially compared to previous models and is about the same price as a Nikon D750 which is a great full fram body (I have one already). I do also hear that Nikon is going to release a pro mirrorless camera too this year and possibly a D750 replacement which makes me wonder if it is worth waiting until then to make my mind up especially as what I have is mostly doing the job.
Great video! But one question, if the video shooting limit is only due to the smaller camera body and overheating, why is it that the G85 has no limit in the US, but a 30 minute limit in Europe? Same camera, same body...
As far as I am aware there is no cooling off period after the 10 minutes is up, so you can start recording another 4K 50 clip instantly. If heat is an issue, how come this is possible? I’ve been searching for people who complain about overheating from doing this but haven’t found anything. I like the g9 but not if it would overheat, so I may just have to take the risk and find out myself unless you’ve got any ideas?
PhotoJoseph yeah, since the 10bit and higher bitrate of the GH5 is all on lower FPS (4K 30/25 etc) it isn’t much better for someone who has interest in filming in 4K 50/60 since both g9 and GH5 record the same. Only difference is that pesky time limit, but like I say I’m not so sure if overheating is that bad of a concern since there would be more complaints and warnings from Panasonic about it destroying hardware. I have opted to order the g9 (better video AF and stabilisation won me over), I’m certainly going to test the heating and I’ll let you know the results! Regards
And what about zooming either of these cameras while recording video when compared with the FZ2500 which has a motorized zoom with 2 speeds? In my experience it is not at all easy to zoom using the zoom ring manually and not get some jittery movement as you try to zoom in or out. However, when I owned the FZ2500 it was very easy.
I need a new camera that will provide great video quality for capturing a fast-paced Christmas light show and also for vlogging. I'm concerned about the autofocus issues with the GH5 not being able to capture Christmas lights clearly. Any thoughts by chance?
Nowhere near enough information to advise. I would suggest watching all my videos on the GH5 and G9 and deciding from there. The G9 is enough for most people but be sure to visit this page; this will show you all the differences with the latest updates: photojoseph.com/November2019LUMIXfirmwareUpdates
@PhotoJoseph Unfortunately the Closed Caption is set to "French - (Auto-generated)". Would it be possible to set it to English like normal? I am hard of hearing and the subtitles are invaluable for me.
Hi Ryan, Thank you for your prompt reply! Hopefully you are able to figure out what happened. The last few weeks it occurred several times to me that CC's were in Russian or other foreign languages. Keep up the good work! I'm enjoying your shows very much!
Mr PhotoJoseph! Thank you - is nice! One question - can I make an ultra-def megagigapixel time lapse using that wondrous sounding feature? If so, then can I do it using a built-in intervalometer (there is one, right?) or, if not, can I attach an external one using that old headphone type of jack?
Hm, I’m pretty sure you would have to do it externally but I have to ask - why? Time lapse = video. What would you do with an 80MP video? Standard resolution for stills is 5184 x 3888. Ultra HD (4K video) is 3840 x 2160, so well under that. Unless you need to do 8K video (7680 × 4320) there isn’t much point to doing huge time lapse video. Am I missing something?
im doing alot of concert work and event stuff also a lot of portraits sometimes also i film during those events . I think i am right . Just want the sigma 16mm f.1.4 because i own the sigma 30mm f.1.4 and i love it but i dont know if should buy the g9 first. I lov ethe grip of the g9 it feels very good in the hands. Also the stabilizer is awesome for me and the feature that you can charge it via usb. Will i also notice a improvement in the photo quality with the g9 over the gh4?
very good comparison! I'm primarily a still shooter but I'm looking at getting into video and looking for a second camera to use beside my 6D. I'm after something that shoots 4k - I'll mainly be using it for B roll and stock footage. I'm torn between the GH5, 5d4 (would replace 6d but expensive and seems video isn't as good), and the new sony A7III (expensive lenses). I have a few L series lenses do these work for VIDEO for the GH5 with a metabones adaptor? I'm leaning towards the GH5 at the moment. any advice is appreciated - Thanks
I’ve actually done several videos on my live stream setup, and I’m sorry to say that it’s much more complex than it appears! Watch this video first ruclips.net/video/aL1gV3yJvCM/видео.html and from there, here’s a three-part very detailed look at my setup ruclips.net/p/PLRe8DcOhgslp8kbjeTNG0S6KwR6_u_dyt (although it’s over a year old now and some details have changed).
Hello all! I probably won't be upgrading anytime soon, but I'm currently using a lumix G7 for video mostly with photography on the side. If I was to upgrade, which route should I go? I'm more focused on video, but don't think I'm professional enough to get the GH5. Just wanted some opinions. Thanks!
The G9 now has most of the features the GH5 has, so as a "non video" guy, you definitely want the G9. The things its missing aren't things you'll miss! ruclips.net/video/-BPXOIBu5uM/видео.html
Less so but there are still differences. Here’s two videos to watch: ruclips.net/video/-BPXOIBu5uM/видео.htmlsi=GnMh4M-UdhEa6XYw and ruclips.net/video/hIO-QNBckyk/видео.htmlsi=I-6pnkSHb-XXEl4N
My g85 will shoot unlimited time in 4K and it is much smaller than the g9 and it does not over heat so the heat is not the reason for the g9 only shooting for 10 min in 4K.
So, I'm split between the two. The showstopper for me on the G9 is the 30 min limit for 30fps 4K. The 60fps limit of 10 min is not something I'll ever want to exceed. So ... since you have access to the G9, have you tried going into service mode to disable the 30 min limit? There are lots of youtube videos on this for other Lumix cameras, but the G9 is too new. If I can bypass that limitation, it would definitely affect my decision. Any chance you could try this for us?
Definitely not, sorry. It’d go against my mandate as a LUMIX Ambassador to recommend anything that would be considered a “hack” and could be damaging to the camera.
The G9 with all the firmware upgrades is nearly a GH5 at this point. If you need the features, upgrade. If you don't, then invest in new lenses instead!
Definitely brings them closer together, and for most people that’s enough. But (this is off the top of my head so may not be 100% accurate) if you want shutter angle, 24.00fps (not just 23.98), and some other cinema-specific features then the GH5 is still better. But it’s close!
Definitely brings them closer together, and for most people that’s enough. But (this is off the top of my head so may not be 100% accurate) if you want shutter angle, 24.00fps (not just 23.98), and some other cinema-specific features then the GH5 is still better. But it’s close!
Just bought a G9. I would not worry about the time record limit. Most of us aren’t taking that long of shots right? Most my clips are 1-3 or 4 minutes anyways. 😊
I'm a filmmaker, and since the g9 can shoot up to 60fps in raw for photos. I minus well shoot in photo mode and get a raw formatted video. So basically I'm filming in raw right?
Excellent question. “Yes”, with a big “but”. There’s a max number of frames that can be shot before the camera needs to pause to clear the buffer, even with the fastest memory cards. That limit is about 50 frames.
PhotoJoseph thanks! So 60p devided by 24p is about 2 seconds. That’s all I need to tell a story lol you should do a video on how to shoot raw with a g9. That’ll be awesome!! And revolutionary for the camera! Like a magic lantern hack but instead for the gh5
Interesting. OK so realistically, why do you need RAW video? V-Log gives you many of the benefits (a flat file to start with that has considerably more dynamic range). What would you do with RAW that you couldn’t do in V-Log?
Hi, owned the Lumix G 9 for 2 weeks now.Happy so far exept its not possible to use flash in any burst mode. Only tried with Rotolight Aeos, but Panasonic Norway confirmes it is not possible with any flash! Tried with both sync cable and Godox x1 trigger. Very dissapointing for me. Is there any way around this?
The G9 geni.us/bgpl4 would be plenty but if you really want the best, do the GH5S geni.us/ZhfnctF with a gimbal. Best low light performance for those low light homes.
Thanks and yes, it’s an ATEM. Here’s a video about it: How I LIVE Stream: Hardware in a Professional RUclips LIVE Streaming Studio ruclips.net/video/aL1gV3yJvCM/видео.html
hi Joseph do the image of GH5 identical with the G9?? I have a GH5 and planning to buy G9 for stills but I just want to know if the image of both has a difference or they are the same.Thanks
I'm thinking the GH5 is better for me because of the video capabilities and the stills are still great and not shooting sports I don't see the need to jump to the G9
Rent local everyone buying and renting online putting local stores out of business. The camera store is the only place you can physically play with the camera
I want to mainly make video. But sometimes photo aswell I have no camera right now (Sold my CANON EOS 700D) G85, G9 or GH5? And I want to someday make some money with it ;-)
Intro music is much louder than your voice. This is a continued problem with your show. It could be partially due to different frequency (ear is more sensitive to something like 100-300kHz than a low voice).
Thanks for the feedback. Are you watching live or the later uploads (or is it a problem on both)? The levels are the same but it could be a frequency thing as you suggest.
If you're looking for a new camera, which one are you going to get? GH5 or G9? Are anyof you GH5 owners going to ditch it for the G9?
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I’m a GH5 owner and am very happy with it. As my main focus is filming the GH5 is the best choice for me. Thank you for your videos on the GH5 both on RUclips and Lynda online training.
I'm lost now I do more videography than photography as in music videos
Then the GH5 is the one for you. Or perhaps the GH5S if you’re shooting on gimbals and in low light.
since I need two camera bodies always for peofessional reasons, I kept the GH5 AND bought a G9
PhotoJoseph ...just get both...I have the GH5s and will probably get the G9...for $1800 it’s cheap...p,us I have the lenses...
I just wanted to comment to say that I 100% agree on the 10 minute record limit. That is a LONG time, even for an interview. For events, sure. But that is when you grab a camera that can shoot longer. But even then, people have shot weddings with the Canon DSLRs and those had limits too, so there is always a workaround.
i love my g9. just handling it is a joy because of the fantastic ergonomics and menusystem.
Love the dual nature of the GH5; versatile video features while still being able to deliver descent stills to my clients. Thanks for getting in depth with the nitty and the gritty technical details. Your video has certainly helped clarify the purchasing options. Keep up the great work!
I''ve been a Canon shooter for 39 years, but I do like the Lumix line for certain events. It's nice at a reception to carry around a lighter camera than the canon r6 or 6D. The MFT sensor if fine for reception pics. I also have a G100 I use for video in the studio..
Another use of 1/32000 shutter speed; Gives you the ability to shoot in bright sun and use a faster f-stop for your lens to keep a more shallow DoF.
Personally considering switching to the g9 for VIDEO because of the larger viewfinder and the upgraded IBStabilizer. We hand hold at every wedding and love the freedom. Some of our Hawaiian wedding ceremonies can get over 30 minutes, We have wonderful reverends that sometimes incorporate the leis for the guest in the middle of the ceremony and or hula dancer + music. There is always a spot to hit start and stop. be blessed Frederick
I got the G9 because I just don't need the extra features in GH5. The video capabilities are good enough for me on the G9. But I would say you can't go wrong choosing either of these.
How is it in low light?
Got the GH5, no regrets. Need all the video features for my Professional Video Production works.
G9...... not bothered about video, but been waiting for Panasonic to make a camera for a photographer
I love my G9. I also use it for portraits and product shots. I shoot sports for fun. I will probably get the blackmagic pocket cam for doing more video jobs. Love blackmagic raw.
just ordered the GH5 for videos for my YT Channel. Thanks for the great video!
Awesome! I hope you used my link? 😬😬😬
Yeah when deciding between the two - take it from me, a guy who produces 90 minute feature length nature/hiking/backpacking/camping style documentaries - I can't think of one single time I pulled a 4K clip that was longer than about 4 minutes off my camera. And that was after me doing about 6 narration takes in one shot. I can think of very few use cases where a 10 minute video recording limit becomes significant.
Interviews. I'm a pretty experienced interviewer and I like to let folks talk and get relaxed, and have the conversation flow naturally. You might talk 20 minutes just to get one perfect eight-second clip-I've done it, certainly. Also there are presentations and performances where you want to let it roll. For me, at least, it's a consideration.
G9 can also shoot 10bit internally now with the update
Totally right about the recording limitations on g9. 4k 60p I use maybe for a few minutes at a time at most. If I'm recording something longer, then I'm usually recording with audio, so I'd need to be in 24p anyway
one exception: when recording a concert or any event where the camera will remain steady and/or unattended on a tripod, but for instances like this you won't need the 60 fps and 25 will do
I just got the GH5s and god damn proud of it!
Thanks, very good discussion. I now have possession of my new G9, a great camera. I know its billed as a stills camera but I consider it an excellent hybrid camera, since it does great video as well. Because it has a great deal of capabilities, I'd be very interested in having a tutorial to go through. Sounds like you aren't interested but I'll put my vote in if it can help tip the scales.
Does the G9 have programmable follow focus like the GH5? Excellent review of the differences!
I bet yore happy with all the updates it has now. I'm only not liking the gh5 because of its terrible autofocus
As a journalist. I do interviews and no. We don't stop the camera. It keeps rolling. Continuous shoot is even more important for solo when you are the interviewer and the cameraman.
Then the G9 is not the camera for you. A video journalist needs a video camera. Not a stills camera that also does video. Wouldn’t you agree?
I agree. But before GH5 happened we had to make compromises. Unlike videographers, we can't log around big boxes and set a booth. We have to move around, attend keynotes and meet people so lighter is better and GH5 touched the sweet spot. The flip side, unlike my Nikon D810 that I sold, it's not a great camera for low light photography. So I am looking at something that can be accompanied with GH5 and that's what brought me to your video :)
Awesome! Yeah these cameras rock. Glad to hear the GH5 is killing it where the others could not :-)
G9 I am a still shooter and the G9 reminds me of my favorite camera my Nikon D7000
I gought G85, and want to upgrade, to either GH5 or G9, mostly for videoshooting and stills 50/50
What you think?
That’s why I made this video my friend! After watching this, which specs sound more like what you need? Do you need the higher end video specs or the higher end stills specs?
I love the G85 a lot of camera for the $$$ - great way to get an affordable camera and invest your savings in great glass - Good glass is an investment - cameras come and go
10 minutes is a huge limitation for just about any RUclipsr in the niche I am in for example. The majority of my videos I have to let the videos run for 10-20 minutes most of the time. Thanks for the detailed information. :-)
A year ago, I couldn't decide between the GH5 and GH5S, so I took the shortcomings (low light and stabilization) of both in the GH4 instead and used the money on a Zhiyun gimbal as well as an Epiphan streaming box, not realizing that I wouldn't be able to use the gimbal with any cables tugging on the camera.
Now, I'm at the point where I'm tempted to get a second camera body and find myself missing the stabilization more than the low light. The photo features of the G9 are quite tempting for product photography, but the video features of the GH5 are also quite tempting for recording events or if I ever want to get back into making a short film or colour grading. I don't have an Atomos recorder, but the GH4 can output 10-bit if I did, which would presumably be handy to match with the GH5.
With 2 Oly (12-40 2.8 and 60 2.8) and 1 Panasonic (14-140 3.5-5.6) native lenses as well as a pair of 1st party DMW-BLF19 batteries, I'm pretty settled on sticking with the M43 system for now. I still just can't quite decide between these 2.
You can’t go wrong with the GH5. Still a flagship, still great for both stills and video. I shot all my stills in India this year on it. You won’t be disappointed if you buy one. And you can probably get a used one if finances are a concern.
@@photojoseph Thanks for the reply. After a shower, I found myself leaning that way. Right now, both cameras are on sale for 30% off SRP, the lowest ever, likely due to the G95 as much as anything. At first I saw the G9 at 30% while the GH5 was only 25% off, which tilted me towards it more, but finding the GH5 elsewhere for 30% off made me rethink that reasoning.
For some time I was thinking that the high res mode would be a big part of what I'd want IBIS for, but the situations where it would be necessary or even viable (outside of product shots, but even then the final result would be for much lower res platforms) would be quite limited. 6k video, All Intra high bitrate codecs, and unlimited recording are pretty nice features to have.
do the sound from music louder and your voice more silent..this would help
G9 but the new GH5s looks awesome though.
Thanks! This was super informative. For commercial video, you definitely don't need more than 10 minutes. For weddings (although I usually shoot at 24p for ceremonies) the 10 minute record limit would be a dealbreaker. Thankfully for me, I'm so happy with my GH5 I don't see a big need to grab a G9. I'd rather grab a couple more GH5 or GH5s bodies and use the GH5 for stills as well as video. That's just me though.
I shoot dance videos on stage. The longest I ever shot was 5min.
I think the G9 is more of a hyrid, thr GH5 is geared towards videographers. Having said that, I have shot phots with the GH5 and I was more than happy with the results. There is so little diffrrence is quality you could almost flip a coin lol
My G9 has all the frame rates. Not restricted to PAL or NTSC
Yeah… apparently some regions shipped an all-region camera. This is news to everyone in North America, I must admit.
Great video. I am selling my 5d mk iii due to it’s video limitations which I need. I don’t shoot sports/wildlife. However I shoot weddings & portrait sessions (stills + videos ). Short films for hobby. Would you suggest GH5 or G9?
go G9
Went from a Canon environment to Panasonic. I researched everything I needed and ended up with a GX8, now discontinued. I love this camera and its lenses (12-35, 35-100, 100-400) and have had more of my work published in six months than I had in many years with my Canon. The weight is terrific as is the menu system. So..if I had to now choose a Panasonic camera, I'd go with the photo/video emphasis as opposed to a video/photo emphasis. Reticulating screen is a must for me. So many other ways to accomplish 4K video, though my GX8 produces video that works for me. Amazing how many Leica looks I get.
Can't beat the value of GH5. The G9 is not as versatile. Also think about resale, the GH5 will bring more resale value.
Of you put non panasonic lenses in a Panasonic camera dfd will not work and tracking is going to be much worse. However usually it still pull decent focus on my g85 in video and still works great for static subjects.
I would pay for some G9 specific training (still capabilities) if you are so inclined :)
"If you don't know what it is... You DON'T need it!" I needed to hear that! I know which camera to invest in! G9! Thanks!
haha right on! And you're welcome ;-)
@@photojoseph That one comment is so perfectly pithy and commonsensical that I'm going to check you out! Chalk up a new fan!
A7riii vs G9 please~!
*JOSEPH.. When You Were Talking EVF You Didn't Clarify What Camera Had the Cool Zoom Out //Smaller View to See So Eye Glass Wearers Could See the Whole View =Including Its Outter Edge?
Thanks in Advance Joe :-)
You’re a great presenter Joseph, 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
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which is better in low light conditions? Does G9 record FullHD in more than 60fps?
G9 does 1080p180 but only in automatic mode -- that is fully explained in this video. Low light they are probably equal.
wow that kills it for me not having full manual exposure for high framerate mode in the G9 completely!
This camera does have the iA mode, Panasonic's intelligent auto.
Sorry my mistake in comment. i meant full manual exposure mode. I don't want the camera deciding the exposure for me.
ofc it has, like every other cameras :)
He did say it shoots in auto only, but only when using the VFR mode in video.
DonBee yes that’s why it’s deal breaker for me.
At @16:33 I made my decision that the GH5 is what I need --- Unlimited Recording in 4k at 60fps as opposed to a 10 minute limit with the G9 --- Thank you so much for this clear comparison! 🤍
Awesome! Be sure to check out the GH6 too now that that’s out!
Joseph..GH5 V-LOG L PAID APP?? Or Default Comes Standard AS Built into The Camera Already??
THANK YOU,
My g7, with a hack, can record with no time limit in 4k...and doesn't overheat
Jorge Martinez G7 Is such a beautiful budget with great potential
where can u get it ?
What hack? Can you also unlock the 4K bitrate with that?
I can confirm that this is true. The only limit is battery life and memory
Thanks for explaining all differences, between the two in depth. It seems to me that the videographer has more advantages than the photographer. The limitations on video shooting of G9 are disappointing for the stills photographer, can't set aperture for slow mo as well as time limitations? Even though I am more of a stills person, love the possibility of taking slo mo but don't want point and shoot on this feature.
Panasonic Lumix G9
Question?
"is There a video record Time Limit of 29.99 min on Usa version G9? like there is on all the eu // uk Pal versions always have???
Thank you in advance"
John h
Answers to your question
Yes, there is a 30Min Video Recording Limit on HD Video, & 10min Limit On 4K Video
Do to due to sensor heating in poor design of reducing heatsink mass?
thus If Video is your focus then the GH5 is a much better choice for just additional $285.00 more
ED
yes limited not GH5
Hi Joseph
As per your comparison, the screen size of GH5 and G9 is 3.2 inches. As per my understanding, G9 sports a 3 inch monitor. Please correct me if I am wrong.
I don’t know the measurements but I’m sure you can look those up. The G9’s LCD monitor is slightly smaller than the GH5 and GH5S though
Im save same money tô buy the gh5, i already have the 6D for photos, um thinking maybe on a7iii too,but the gh5 have nice reviews on yt saying the gh5 is better... I dont know what to do 🙈
The GH5 wins in almost every category except autofocus. Depends on what matters most to you! I use all GH5 and GH5S in my productions, from youtube to commercial work, and love them all
Good compared. Thx a lot.
Can you do a G9 vs G95 comparism
I don’t actually have a G95 I’m afraid. Looks like there are a few already on RUclips… just search “lumix g9 vs g95”. Sorry!
Thanks for this in-depth comparison. I’ve ordered the G9 as an upgrade to my GX8. Selling all my Canon 5D MII gear, as I’ve learned I like my back more than full frame. My question is I bought the Panasonic LUMIX G X 12-35 MI and the Panasonic LUMIX G X 35-100 MI when I bought the GX8. Why would I want the new MII versions? I am watching conflicting reports how these old lenses (ha 3 years) are now out dated or will not work with the newer IBIS. You mention in this comparison that lenses are the longer term investment. I feel my GX8 and my paired lenses are all obsolete.... What are the differences? I’ve updated all firmware. Thanks!
Not obsolete. You gain an extra ½ or so stop I.S. with the Mark II versions, when paired with the GH5 or G9. And improved weather sealing. But unless those are critical to your work, then don’t bother upgrading. Spend the money on another lens! You still get superb I.S. and weather sealing with the Mark I lenses. The newer ones are just slightly better. I did not upgrade mine.
PhotoJoseph Thank you! that’s great news. I was under the impression that the dual IS was null with the original pany OIS lenses when paired with the new IBIS. So I think I’ll add a new lens. What is your favorite and fastest 25mm lens for the GH5/G9? Sub $1000.
You answered this for me in the Jan 15th show. I’m on the PANASONIC LUMIX G LEICA DG NOCTICRON LENS, 42.5MM, F1.2. Thanks for the in-depth discussion. Also subscribed monthly.
That’s easy… Mitakon Zhongyi Speedmaster 25mm f/0.95 Lens
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Thanks for the video, very helpful. I’ve had a G7 for a very long time and wanted to upgrade, so after watching many videos and this very helpful video I decided to upgrade to the GH5. Managed to catch a good deal on Black Friday and I’m currently digging into the camera and tested out all the features.
Awesome, glad to hear it helped!
PhotoJoseph One question though. I was wondering what you use to transcode the 10 bit and hire formats. I see that you are a Mac user as am I and did Final Cut have this feature built in or do I have to be searching for a plug-in to do the conversion? I am currently still on the iMovie but plan on upgrading to Final Cut within the month.
No transcoding needed. FCPX handles it all natively.
PhotoJoseph are you able to preview the 10 bit footage in finder?
How much did you get the GH5 for?
Great comparison video. I would opt for the GH5s for video & G9 for stills
hi , if the g9 can shoot 60fps raw surely panasonic can give us gh5 users the option of shooting 25 fps 4k cinema dng raw video. Im very envious of black magic pocket cinema camera users. Common panasonic
Ok So it's 2020 and is the G9 worth buying for a videographer which is what I am. The answer is YES! I love your video awesome points, but since the G9 has had software updates Wow. With the filming you can now film with Mov, and you can film in 10 bit as well. The auto focus has been improved as well. As we all know there is no perfect camera. I've been using Panasonic for 5 Years now list as followed G7, G85, and now G9. Why the G9 well to be honest it comes down to price the G9 now is under 1,000 and you can film 4K at 60frams so that's huge. I totally agree that the G9 was geared more towards the photographers but I do believe especially now more videographers would drift to this camera and this is just my opinion I believe for video it's the best camera for under $1,000. I've also used Sony A7III which is amazing for video, amazing auto focus which helps a ton if you're filming wedding, great at low lighting, but can't film 4K @60 and the screen also just flip up and not to the side, and lastly the stabilization on the G9 is better than Sony I believe because Panasonic is micro 4/3 more room Sony full Fram less room because the sensor is bigger. sorry for rambling on
Glad you enjoyed and I assume by now you’ve seen my newer videos on the G9 and its November 2019 updates.
Gh5 seems like the camera for me. (Video)
Should I feel worry about other cameras with 20 mp? Like the cannon?
While I am very much interested in a G9 I still wonder if it is the best option for me. I do shoot some sports and dancing so the extra burst speed might be nice to have some times but what I have seems to get enough keepers as it is. My G7 is great in general but do often find the AF could be faster and its low light performance could use a boost too. I am guessing the G9 should be a lot faster at focusing but have not seen much low light shooting or experiences shooting in lower light conditions to know if there is an improvement there. Then there is the price with is still significant especially compared to previous models and is about the same price as a Nikon D750 which is a great full fram body (I have one already). I do also hear that Nikon is going to release a pro mirrorless camera too this year and possibly a D750 replacement which makes me wonder if it is worth waiting until then to make my mind up especially as what I have is mostly doing the job.
Great video! But one question, if the video shooting limit is only due to the smaller camera body and overheating, why is it that the G85 has no limit in the US, but a 30 minute limit in Europe? Same camera, same body...
The G85 doesn’t shoot 4K60p. The 10 minute limit on the G9 only applies to 60p. Otherwise it’s the 29:29 tax limit.
As far as I am aware there is no cooling off period after the 10 minutes is up, so you can start recording another 4K 50 clip instantly. If heat is an issue, how come this is possible? I’ve been searching for people who complain about overheating from doing this but haven’t found anything. I like the g9 but not if it would overheat, so I may just have to take the risk and find out myself unless you’ve got any ideas?
That’s an interesting observation. I honestly don’t know the answer. If you test it please let us know!
PhotoJoseph yeah, since the 10bit and higher bitrate of the GH5 is all on lower FPS (4K 30/25 etc) it isn’t much better for someone who has interest in filming in 4K 50/60 since both g9 and GH5 record the same. Only difference is that pesky time limit, but like I say I’m not so sure if overheating is that bad of a concern since there would be more complaints and warnings from Panasonic about it destroying hardware. I have opted to order the g9 (better video AF and stabilisation won me over), I’m certainly going to test the heating and I’ll let you know the results! Regards
And what about zooming either of these cameras while recording video when compared with the FZ2500 which has a motorized zoom with 2 speeds?
In my experience it is not at all easy to zoom using the zoom ring manually and not get some jittery movement as you try to zoom in or out.
However, when I owned the FZ2500 it was very easy.
I need a new camera that will provide great video quality for capturing a fast-paced Christmas light show and also for vlogging. I'm concerned about the autofocus issues with the GH5 not being able to capture Christmas lights clearly. Any thoughts by chance?
I'm into all the tech, I love it but, can only afford maybe the FZ2500. Are there any MFT cams comparable it?
planning to buy, which one? I'm a short film maker what camera suit
to my needs?
Nowhere near enough information to advise. I would suggest watching all my videos on the GH5 and G9 and deciding from there. The G9 is enough for most people but be sure to visit this page; this will show you all the differences with the latest updates: photojoseph.com/November2019LUMIXfirmwareUpdates
@PhotoJoseph Unfortunately the Closed Caption is set to "French - (Auto-generated)". Would it be possible to set it to English like normal? I am hard of hearing and the subtitles are invaluable for me.
Hi Ryan, Thank you for your prompt reply! Hopefully you are able to figure out what happened. The last few weeks it occurred several times to me that CC's were in Russian or other foreign languages. Keep up the good work! I'm enjoying your shows very much!
Mr PhotoJoseph! Thank you - is nice! One question - can I make an ultra-def megagigapixel time lapse using that wondrous sounding feature?
If so, then can I do it using a built-in intervalometer (there is one, right?) or, if not, can I attach an external one using that old headphone type of jack?
Hm, I’m pretty sure you would have to do it externally but I have to ask - why? Time lapse = video. What would you do with an 80MP video? Standard resolution for stills is 5184 x 3888. Ultra HD (4K video) is 3840 x 2160, so well under that. Unless you need to do 8K video (7680 × 4320) there isn’t much point to doing huge time lapse video. Am I missing something?
im doing alot of concert work and event stuff also a lot of portraits sometimes also i film during those events . I think i am right . Just want the sigma 16mm f.1.4 because i own the sigma 30mm f.1.4 and i love it but i dont know if should buy the g9 first. I lov ethe grip of the g9 it feels very good in the hands. Also the stabilizer is awesome for me and the feature that you can charge it via usb. Will i also notice a improvement in the photo quality with the g9 over the gh4?
very good comparison! I'm primarily a still shooter but I'm looking at getting into video and looking for a second camera to use beside my 6D. I'm after something that shoots 4k - I'll mainly be using it for B roll and stock footage. I'm torn between the GH5, 5d4 (would replace 6d but expensive and seems video isn't as good), and the new sony A7III (expensive lenses). I have a few L series lenses do these work for VIDEO for the GH5 with a metabones adaptor? I'm leaning towards the GH5 at the moment. any advice is appreciated - Thanks
Yes, absolutely. In my experience, metabones adapters are *primarily* used by video shooters. Good luck and enjoy!
Thank you for video, I would like to buy G9? Is still good buy for videos today in this price point?
Better than ever considering the price!
What video mixer software you use to do your Channel -- nice show - GH newbie going with the 9 thanks
I’ve actually done several videos on my live stream setup, and I’m sorry to say that it’s much more complex than it appears! Watch this video first ruclips.net/video/aL1gV3yJvCM/видео.html and from there, here’s a three-part very detailed look at my setup ruclips.net/p/PLRe8DcOhgslp8kbjeTNG0S6KwR6_u_dyt (although it’s over a year old now and some details have changed).
Hello all! I probably won't be upgrading anytime soon, but I'm currently using a lumix G7 for video mostly with photography on the side. If I was to upgrade, which route should I go? I'm more focused on video, but don't think I'm professional enough to get the GH5. Just wanted some opinions. Thanks!
The G9 now has most of the features the GH5 has, so as a "non video" guy, you definitely want the G9. The things its missing aren't things you'll miss! ruclips.net/video/-BPXOIBu5uM/видео.html
Now with the firmware update, do those cinema specs still have the same gap between the two?
Less so but there are still differences. Here’s two videos to watch: ruclips.net/video/-BPXOIBu5uM/видео.htmlsi=GnMh4M-UdhEa6XYw and ruclips.net/video/hIO-QNBckyk/видео.htmlsi=I-6pnkSHb-XXEl4N
@@photojoseph will do thank you!
My g85 will shoot unlimited time in 4K and it is much smaller than the g9 and it does not over heat so the heat is not the reason for the g9 only shooting for 10 min in 4K.
For now, G95 came out. Then which one will you pick?
G95 is not in the same league as GH5 or G9.
Will both give 1080i 50frames hdmi out? I use an atem television studio hd and 2 other cameras which have 1080 50i..regards
So, I'm split between the two. The showstopper for me on the G9 is the 30 min limit for 30fps 4K. The 60fps limit of 10 min is not something I'll ever want to exceed. So ... since you have access to the G9, have you tried going into service mode to disable the 30 min limit? There are lots of youtube videos on this for other Lumix cameras, but the G9 is too new. If I can bypass that limitation, it would definitely affect my decision. Any chance you could try this for us?
Definitely not, sorry. It’d go against my mandate as a LUMIX Ambassador to recommend anything that would be considered a “hack” and could be damaging to the camera.
Currently using GX8 which is great. It’s no longer made so which camera would be close to its equivalence?
Hm, probably the G9 although that’s a more expensive body. Maybe the G85? Although it doesn’t have the higher MP sensor. Yeah, G9 is your best bet
hi I got Omd em ii and Lumix G 80 great cameras should I trade the G 80 to Gh5,Gh5s or G9 most movie but also stills for instagram
The G9 with all the firmware upgrades is nearly a GH5 at this point. If you need the features, upgrade. If you don't, then invest in new lenses instead!
Nice video!!! How would you compare the 2 now that the G9 has the 10 bit internal firmware update?
Definitely brings them closer together, and for most people that’s enough. But (this is off the top of my head so may not be 100% accurate) if you want shutter angle, 24.00fps (not just 23.98), and some other cinema-specific features then the GH5 is still better. But it’s close!
Definitely brings them closer together, and for most people that’s enough. But (this is off the top of my head so may not be 100% accurate) if you want shutter angle, 24.00fps (not just 23.98), and some other cinema-specific features then the GH5 is still better. But it’s close!
@@photojoseph Thank you so much.
Wished there was no recording limit on my G9.
Just bought a G9. I would not worry about the time record limit. Most of us aren’t taking that long of shots right? Most my clips are 1-3 or 4 minutes anyways. 😊
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I'm a filmmaker, and since the g9 can shoot up to 60fps in raw for photos. I minus well shoot in photo mode and get a raw formatted video. So basically I'm filming in raw right?
Excellent question. “Yes”, with a big “but”. There’s a max number of frames that can be shot before the camera needs to pause to clear the buffer, even with the fastest memory cards. That limit is about 50 frames.
PhotoJoseph thanks! So 60p devided by 24p is about 2 seconds. That’s all I need to tell a story lol you should do a video on how to shoot raw with a g9. That’ll be awesome!! And revolutionary for the camera! Like a magic lantern hack but instead for the gh5
Interesting. OK so realistically, why do you need RAW video? V-Log gives you many of the benefits (a flat file to start with that has considerably more dynamic range). What would you do with RAW that you couldn’t do in V-Log?
I want 2 new cameras the 6D mkii and the G9
Both great cameras for sure. It’s hard to go wrong these days. So much good gear on the market.
Hi, owned the Lumix G 9 for 2 weeks now.Happy so far exept its not possible to use flash in any burst mode. Only tried with Rotolight Aeos, but Panasonic Norway confirmes it is not possible with any flash! Tried with both sync cable and Godox x1 trigger. Very dissapointing for me. Is there any way around this?
Very good comparison dear PhotoJoseph ;) Keep doing perfect job
Thank you for a most informative video.
I'm gonna get a camera for real state video, would you recommend the gh5, gh5s or the g9 would be enough?
The G9 geni.us/bgpl4 would be plenty but if you really want the best, do the GH5S geni.us/ZhfnctF with a gimbal. Best low light performance for those low light homes.
@@photojoseph thank you sir , really helpful I guess I'll go for the gh5s with the panasonic 12-60 or maybe the olympus 12-40
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@@photojoseph count on it sir!! 12-40 would be ... any link on that one?
Thanks man! Just use any link above to get to the camera; if you then search for the lens I’ll get credit for that too. Really appreciate it!!
I have the g7 and gh4. looking at the gh5 or the g9. I shoot mostly photo but starting with video. What advice would you give
G9 geni.us/bgpl4
Great job Joseph. Great comparison. May I ask, what you use for "live-working" these kind of videos? Blackmagic ATEM?
Thanks and yes, it’s an ATEM. Here’s a video about it: How I LIVE Stream: Hardware in a Professional RUclips LIVE Streaming Studio ruclips.net/video/aL1gV3yJvCM/видео.html
hi Joseph do the image of GH5 identical with the G9?? I have a GH5 and planning to buy G9 for stills but I just want to know if the image of both has a difference or they are the same.Thanks
I haven’t done a critical comparison but they are at least very close.
I'm thinking the GH5 is better for me because of the video capabilities and the stills are still great and not shooting sports I don't see the need to jump to the G9
Enjoy! If you pick one up, be sure to check out my training GH5training.com
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Great this video showed me the total breakdown of the G9 . I may be in the G 9 shortly. Thanks.
hi there which one do you recommend for the video
Did you watch the video?
Do both models allow users to float the ISO while in Program or Manual Priority?
If by float you mean auto-ISO, then yes.
Is there a way to come close to matching the gh5’s vlog profile with the G9?
No. Log is more than a look. You could make it as flat as possible by choosing Natural and reducing contrast and sharpening but that's about it.
I want to mainly make video. But sometimes photo aswell
I have no camera right now (Sold my CANON EOS 700D)
G85, G9 or GH5?
And I want to someday make some money with it ;-)
You gotta watch this video and make your own decision… I can’t answer that for you my friend! It comes down to what YOU need more.
Intro music is much louder than your voice. This is a continued problem with your show. It could be partially due to different frequency (ear is more sensitive to something like 100-300kHz than a low voice).
Thanks for the feedback. Are you watching live or the later uploads (or is it a problem on both)? The levels are the same but it could be a frequency thing as you suggest.
I think it is similar in both live and later uploads.
What lens would be the all around best for the g9?
The 12-60 Leica is a great all-purpose choice.
Is there a hack to remove the 30 minutes recording limit?
castiel vargas yes there is. I’m using it now on my G9 you put it on service mode.
Is it true that the G9 has better dynamic range compare to the GH5?
Sergio Canales Doesn't seem like it.
Can’t please everybody can you
yes it has. officially 25 Prozent higher DR. I found an improvement (feel) of up to one EV
you look like that man Yondu's pal from guardians of galaxy! 100%