Thank you for this! found the video at the crucial moment of hesitating between two kinds of corner cabinets and not knowing how to make a judgement. You provided all the answers!
Appreciate the very valuable advice you are sharing with us here, as it's too late when you have the cabinets in the room and realise the situation you got yourself into. Thanks for the metric sizes too!
Nice option to have a pro look after the plans and order form. Our IKEA designer knew we were using our existing over the range, yet included the kit to install the IKEA over the range microwave. We went with 40" cabinets yet she also ordered a 15" tall over the range cabinet (instead of a 20") so you would need a step stool to use the microwave.
In my experience the planning services, in person or at the store, make lots of mistakes. I always modify their design. They don’t charge enough to give proper service ($200 for 3h in person at home, $39 for 2h at the store, that’s too cheap to afford them to hire qualified people. They have never installed a ikea kitchen and are unfamiliar with the products in real life. I tried to offer design services (I’m an installer) but people don’t want to pay a dime for that. They want a “free quote”, that’s all they want. Cheers
Thank you for your input. Luckily I create almost every single plan I install, and since that's a paid service, it's not my experience that people are reluctant to pay for it.
I had already swapped out the lower corner cabinet to the one you prefer, but I did it because the preferred cabinet seems more sturdy and has a better weight capacity. Glad to know there are other reasons that is a good choice. Now I need to go back and look at the upper corner cabinet to see if I can change that one out. Thanks for sharing your valuable knowledge.
The carousel is sooo hard to use. 100% agree with the new style being so much superior because you can actually take it out of the cabinet and you don't need to go spelunking in a super deep cabinet.
I agree with you but in my case I had to choose the carousel or go with basic cabinets. Our kitchen is an "L" shape. The pull out cabinet is 47" long so if I put it on one side of the only corner in the kitchen it would be 5" into the window messing up the sink cabinet and if it is along the other side of that corner I would have to move the electric for the stove. It would have to go over to another stub bay, meaning I would have to pull the wire and rerun it through the attic and down the other bay. Also I would have to relocate the electric outlet and exhaust vent for the microwave since the stove would now be over 10" further along with the cabinet above. Losing this 10" because of the corner cabinet would also mean we could only have a 5" base cabinet on the other side of the stove instead of a 15" because the refrigerator would be sticking out into the hallway.
Thanks for your videos. I recently installed the corner cabinet you like. I had no idea it swung out and THEN pulled out further! We are still installing so nothing in any of the cabinets. I did buy the other corner cabinet and decided not to use it. I went with 2 x 15": drawer banks in the space and think that is much better even though the corner is empty. What prompted me to do that is when I look in the corner cabinet I do have from the top (no counter tops yet) it looks like you are losing 40-50% of the cabinet space. You could put stuff outside the pull out, but it would be very hard to access.
You're welcome. Yes, both corner cabinet does not offer high efficiency but I find it's better than a blind corner. However, in a smaller kitchen you sometimes need to sacrifice the corner, make it blind, in order to have real drawers.
My walls are almost perfect 90° but they are wavy and are falling in at the top quite a bit, compared to the bottom. And I opted for the 100 cm tall upper cabinets as well, and had to consider where the wires are run in the wall. Plus I decided to leave the "old" but still perfectly nice tiles on the wall, as a backsplash. So already a pretty complicated base to start with. But I also opted for the 45° upper corner cabinet, matched it up with the more preferred lower corner cabinet. And to top it all off, the largest fridge cabinet to close off one end and tie together the lower and upper cabinets. I knew right off the bat that it would be quite a challenge to install it. But it looked so great on the plan, that I wanted to do it, because I wanted to have a stunning looking and also very functional kitchen for my needs. Well.... it took a lot of careful measuring and planning and quite some time. But in the end the result is a perfect looking kitchen, without any extra fillers! Just a tiny bit at one end at the lower cabinet, to the wall. It wasn't easy, but it was worth pushing the boundaries. Because now every day is a joy to spend in the kitchcn, to use it and even just looking at it.
Thank you for sharing. It's good to hear that you managed to make it work. I agree with you that's worth to do it right as you now can enjoy the fruit of the effort for many years. Feel free to share your work with us: kitchensbyrannes.com/share/
Great video! Great information. I got super lucky. I have two upper corner cabinets on one wall. I have an 1/8th of an inch gap that a filler piece doesnt make sense for. One of the cabinets has a little gap now from screwing them together. But it isnt really noticeable with the doors on.
with the older model , you can't avoid scratches on the door (in a long term use) that's one reason . the other is that the rotating plates are not strong enough .
You're at a dead end, I see. No pun intended 😜 Nope, there is no video showing that, unfortunately. But, it's not that difficult. First. Two strips of wood must be placed horizontally on the wall for countertop support. Next. Cut a strip of panel, 30" long and about 1½-2" wider than the perpendicular distance from one cabinet to the other. Clamp this strip to the outside of one of the cabinets and measure from that strip to the other cabinet to find the width of the second strip. Cut the second strip. Clamp the two strips together so they sit in their final position and mark with a pencil strip #1 where strip #2 is. Unclamp the first strip and "build" the corner strip part by clamping the two strips together, predrill from the back of #1 strip and screw them together. When done, clamp the set in place and predrill and screw from inside both cabinets. Done.
I lm finding your videos most helpful so thanks. I have a question you may be able to help me with though? I want to install an integrated fridge freezer into a method 220 cupboard. Which hinge mechanism do I require on the fridge freezer , fixed or slider? . Many thanks in advance.
You're very welcome. I won't be of much help regarding the hinge recommendation for the fridge. They are rarely used here in Canada and I've not installed one in 30 years 😱 I recommend consulting the installation instructions that came with the fridge as the information you need will be in there. If you didn't buy the fridge yet, I'm certain that you can find the instruction online.
I have done that once. For the cabinet I used a 47" long corner cabinet with a 21" cabinet next to it for the symmetry. A part of the cabinet sides where the sink will sit must be cut away of course.
Is there a way to do the blind corner cabinet with only a 15 inch deep cabinet? I am putting some cabinets in my laundry room / pantry and would prefer not to lose the corner space
@kitchensbyrannes I have a corner where two 15 inch deep base cabinets meet. Trying to figure out how best to do it since the planner only seems to have corner options for 24 inches deep cabinets.
Ah, I see. You can use the wall cabinet corner solution. Just add legs. It's basically a 36 inch wide wall cabinet where you add a panel and these brackets. www.ikea.com/ca/en/p/utrusta-corner-hardware-galvanized-10343644/ Check the assembly instructions for the brackets and you'll see what I mean.
@@kitchensbyrannes ahh ok I was wondering if that would work. Would I do anything different with the top of the cabinet since base cabinets don't have a top? I haven't done any sektion builds yet so apologies if this is obvious. I actually have my first set of wall cabinets coming for above the washer and dryer Monday. My wife wanted to get rid of all our open shelving and gets doors on everything
I went with the Lazy Susan corner cabinet, and really regretted it. The space is very limited, and if anything is knocked off the shelf, have to get on your hands and knees to retrieve it.
I purchased my cabinets last month and did buy the recommended base cabinet but I bought the 45 degree upper cabinet. I don’t have constraints with space since on each side of the upper corner cabinet I have only 1 additional cabinet before the sink or stove. However would you still recommend that I exchange it for a square upper either because it looks incongruent or other reasons? Thanks!
Hi Barbara. No, as long as you have no physical constraints as walls etc as explained in the video, you're good. But you'll need a minimum of one cabinet next to the corner, preferably two, one on each side.
Please, please tell me how to use that hardware to make a corner WALL cabinet. My installer doesn't know how, and we had half the order missing from delivery via XPO, which has been interesting. I guess I can try a 15" cabinet, but I'd rather 1. have a blind cabinet and 2, not have to take it down and return to Ikea yet again, 40 minures away. 😅
Your installer must add a bit of determination 😉 I think. All he/she needs to do is follow the bracket's instructions. www.ikea.com/ca/en/p/utrusta-corner-hardware-galvanized-10343644/
tbh i feel the carousel takes too much space with the hardware, i prefer to just have the utrusta shelf dividing the cabinet in 2 and that gives me a TON of storage space.
The carrousel is quite a terrible design with this door. I'm currently trying to make a real lazy suzan based on the corner cabinet, but with the doors going inside when opening and turning the carousel.
@@kitchensbyrannes So it turns out they do offer it, but the IKEA lady said they couldn't... well that stinks! Maybe they didn't when we installed the kitchen.
Another sad example of individuals at Ikea thinking they know it all, when clearly they don't. Unfortunately I deal with that every week. Well, now you know for next time.
@@kitchensbyrannes Indeed! I wish I found your channel before I installed. But you helped me a lot with these videos, thanks very much! I felt the same way with those corner cabinets. They also don't soft close!! Because the soft close is on the attached arm/fold door portion and not the one that finally hits the end clasp. Unfortunate indeed.
Thanks. Yeah, you're right about the lack of soft-close on "the flap" Maybe you can install one of those dampers which are installed on the frame? Blum Retro-Fit Blumotion Soft Close Piston & Adapter Plate System (2) a.co/d/5xv0wr9
the ideal solution is a corner walk in pantry imho, not corner cabinets. Need enough room for it though. It eliminates regular countertop space - but adds countertop space inside. Absolutely love my new walk in pantry.
i'm sorry but i do not agree with you. the "rail problem" can easily be solved by using seperate pieces of rail. so you can easily ajust if the walls are not 90 degrees. the cabint you prefer takes up too much valuable space in the kitchen. All problems you mention can also easily be solved with a few fillers, witch also need to be used with the cabinet you prefer. also you do not need to use the rails. you can easily just bolt the cabinets to the wall. i strongly prefer the square cabinet as the longer one takes up valuable door space without being usefull.
Thank you for this! found the video at the crucial moment of hesitating between two kinds of corner cabinets and not knowing how to make a judgement. You provided all the answers!
You're very welcome.
Appreciate the very valuable advice you are sharing with us here, as it's too late when you have the cabinets in the room and realise the situation you got yourself into. Thanks for the metric sizes too!
Thank you. Glad it was helpful!
Now you know for next time 😄🙏
I wish we had known this earlier. Your videos have been very beneficial to us.
Thanks 🙏
Nice option to have a pro look after the plans and order form. Our IKEA designer knew we were using our existing over the range, yet included the kit to install the IKEA over the range microwave. We went with 40" cabinets yet she also ordered a 15" tall over the range cabinet (instead of a 20") so you would need a step stool to use the microwave.
Thank you for your input. Yeah, sounds familiar to me 😄
In my experience the planning services, in person or at the store, make lots of mistakes. I always modify their design. They don’t charge enough to give proper service ($200 for 3h in person at home, $39 for 2h at the store, that’s too cheap to afford them to hire qualified people. They have never installed a ikea kitchen and are unfamiliar with the products in real life.
I tried to offer design services (I’m an installer) but people don’t want to pay a dime for that. They want a “free quote”, that’s all they want. Cheers
Thank you for your input.
Luckily I create almost every single plan I install, and since that's a paid service, it's not my experience that people are reluctant to pay for it.
I had already swapped out the lower corner cabinet to the one you prefer, but I did it because the preferred cabinet seems more sturdy and has a better weight capacity. Glad to know there are other reasons that is a good choice. Now I need to go back and look at the upper corner cabinet to see if I can change that one out. Thanks for sharing your valuable knowledge.
You're very welcome.
Good luck with your project 👍
Just discovered this channel, planning to make DIY kitchen so will watch all videos.
Hope you enjoy!
The carousel is sooo hard to use. 100% agree with the new style being so much superior because you can actually take it out of the cabinet and you don't need to go spelunking in a super deep cabinet.
I agree 👍💯
I agree with you but in my case I had to choose the carousel or go with basic cabinets. Our kitchen is an "L" shape. The pull out cabinet is 47" long so if I put it on one side of the only corner in the kitchen it would be 5" into the window messing up the sink cabinet and if it is along the other side of that corner I would have to move the electric for the stove. It would have to go over to another stub bay, meaning I would have to pull the wire and rerun it through the attic and down the other bay. Also I would have to relocate the electric outlet and exhaust vent for the microwave since the stove would now be over 10" further along with the cabinet above. Losing this 10" because of the corner cabinet would also mean we could only have a 5" base cabinet on the other side of the stove instead of a 15" because the refrigerator would be sticking out into the hallway.
Sometimes the square corner cabinet is the only solution and sometimes it works really well 🙂
Thanks for your videos. I recently installed the corner cabinet you like. I had no idea it swung out and THEN pulled out further! We are still installing so nothing in any of the cabinets. I did buy the other corner cabinet and decided not to use it. I went with 2 x 15": drawer banks in the space and think that is much better even though the corner is empty. What prompted me to do that is when I look in the corner cabinet I do have from the top (no counter tops yet) it looks like you are losing 40-50% of the cabinet space. You could put stuff outside the pull out, but it would be very hard to access.
You're welcome.
Yes, both corner cabinet does not offer high efficiency but I find it's better than a blind corner. However, in a smaller kitchen you sometimes need to sacrifice the corner, make it blind, in order to have real drawers.
My walls are almost perfect 90° but they are wavy and are falling in at the top quite a bit, compared to the bottom. And I opted for the 100 cm tall upper cabinets as well, and had to consider where the wires are run in the wall. Plus I decided to leave the "old" but still perfectly nice tiles on the wall, as a backsplash. So already a pretty complicated base to start with.
But I also opted for the 45° upper corner cabinet, matched it up with the more preferred lower corner cabinet. And to top it all off, the largest fridge cabinet to close off one end and tie together the lower and upper cabinets. I knew right off the bat that it would be quite a challenge to install it. But it looked so great on the plan, that I wanted to do it, because I wanted to have a stunning looking and also very functional kitchen for my needs.
Well.... it took a lot of careful measuring and planning and quite some time. But in the end the result is a perfect looking kitchen, without any extra fillers! Just a tiny bit at one end at the lower cabinet, to the wall.
It wasn't easy, but it was worth pushing the boundaries. Because now every day is a joy to spend in the kitchcn, to use it and even just looking at it.
Thank you for sharing.
It's good to hear that you managed to make it work.
I agree with you that's worth to do it right as you now can enjoy the fruit of the effort for many years.
Feel free to share your work with us:
kitchensbyrannes.com/share/
@@kitchensbyrannes Done. Look for the name :Nagy György. It's a grey Bodbyn kitchen in short. 🙂
Thanks 🙏
Great video! Great information. I got super lucky. I have two upper corner cabinets on one wall. I have an 1/8th of an inch gap that a filler piece doesnt make sense for. One of the cabinets has a little gap now from screwing them together. But it isnt really noticeable with the doors on.
Small gap, small clamp.
Big gap, big clamp 🤣
with the older model , you can't avoid scratches on the door (in a long term use) that's one reason . the other is that the rotating plates are not strong enough .
Thanks for sharing.
True, signs of use will eventually be visible.
Great information. thank you.
Thanks for watching! 👍☺️
Do you have any videos on how to build the freestanding filler piece for a dead corner? We’re at a standstill in completing our kitchen
You're at a dead end, I see. No pun intended 😜
Nope, there is no video showing that, unfortunately.
But, it's not that difficult.
First. Two strips of wood must be placed horizontally on the wall for countertop support.
Next. Cut a strip of panel, 30" long and about 1½-2" wider than the perpendicular distance from one cabinet to the other. Clamp this strip to the outside of one of the cabinets and measure from that strip to the other cabinet to find the width of the second strip. Cut the second strip.
Clamp the two strips together so they sit in their final position and mark with a pencil strip #1 where strip #2 is.
Unclamp the first strip and "build" the corner strip part by clamping the two strips together, predrill from the back of #1 strip and screw them together.
When done, clamp the set in place and predrill and screw from inside both cabinets.
Done.
I lm finding your videos most helpful so thanks. I have a question you may be able to help me with though? I want to install an integrated fridge freezer into a method 220 cupboard. Which hinge mechanism do I require on the fridge freezer , fixed or slider? . Many thanks in advance.
You're very welcome.
I won't be of much help regarding the hinge recommendation for the fridge. They are rarely used here in Canada and I've not installed one in 30 years 😱
I recommend consulting the installation instructions that came with the fridge as the information you need will be in there.
If you didn't buy the fridge yet, I'm certain that you can find the instruction online.
Do you have any suggestions for installing a corner sink with Ikea cabinets? Not my favourite, but the kitchen has two corner windows.
I have done that once. For the cabinet I used a 47" long corner cabinet with a 21" cabinet next to it for the symmetry.
A part of the cabinet sides where the sink will sit must be cut away of course.
Is there a way to do the blind corner cabinet with only a 15 inch deep cabinet? I am putting some cabinets in my laundry room / pantry and would prefer not to lose the corner space
Thank you for your question but I'm not sure what you mean.
Base or wall cabinet?
15" deep next to....?
@kitchensbyrannes I have a corner where two 15 inch deep base cabinets meet. Trying to figure out how best to do it since the planner only seems to have corner options for 24 inches deep cabinets.
Ah, I see.
You can use the wall cabinet corner solution. Just add legs.
It's basically a 36 inch wide wall cabinet where you add a panel and these brackets.
www.ikea.com/ca/en/p/utrusta-corner-hardware-galvanized-10343644/
Check the assembly instructions for the brackets and you'll see what I mean.
@@kitchensbyrannes ahh ok I was wondering if that would work. Would I do anything different with the top of the cabinet since base cabinets don't have a top? I haven't done any sektion builds yet so apologies if this is obvious. I actually have my first set of wall cabinets coming for above the washer and dryer Monday. My wife wanted to get rid of all our open shelving and gets doors on everything
Nope, just add legs 👍
I went with the Lazy Susan corner cabinet, and really regretted it. The space is very limited, and if anything is knocked off the shelf, have to get on your hands and knees to retrieve it.
Yes, the Lazy Susan corner cabinet is not the best if you want to fully utilize the cabinet.
I purchased my cabinets last month and did buy the recommended base cabinet but I bought the 45 degree upper cabinet. I don’t have constraints with space since on each side of the upper corner cabinet I have only 1 additional cabinet before the sink or stove. However would you still recommend that I exchange it for a square upper either because it looks incongruent or other reasons? Thanks!
Hi Barbara.
No, as long as you have no physical constraints as walls etc as explained in the video, you're good. But you'll need a minimum of one cabinet next to the corner, preferably two, one on each side.
Thanks. Love all your videos! I have watched almost all of them. Thank you.
Thanks Barbara 😁
Please, please tell me how to use that hardware to make a corner WALL cabinet. My installer doesn't know how, and we had half the order missing from delivery via XPO, which has been interesting. I guess I can try a 15" cabinet, but I'd rather 1. have a blind cabinet and 2, not have to take it down and return to Ikea yet again, 40 minures away. 😅
Your installer must add a bit of determination 😉 I think.
All he/she needs to do is follow the bracket's instructions.
www.ikea.com/ca/en/p/utrusta-corner-hardware-galvanized-10343644/
tbh i feel the carousel takes too much space with the hardware, i prefer to just have the utrusta shelf dividing the cabinet in 2 and that gives me a TON of storage space.
Yup. That's an option, too.
The carrousel is quite a terrible design with this door. I'm currently trying to make a real lazy suzan based on the corner cabinet, but with the doors going inside when opening and turning the carousel.
Good idea. Good luck with the project ☺️
IKEA Australia doesn't have the right one... :( Had to go with the left one, and they definitely suck.
I find it strange that Ikea doesn't offer the same kitchen products on all markets. Wonder why it is like that? 🤔
@@kitchensbyrannes So it turns out they do offer it, but the IKEA lady said they couldn't... well that stinks! Maybe they didn't when we installed the kitchen.
Another sad example of individuals at Ikea thinking they know it all, when clearly they don't. Unfortunately I deal with that every week.
Well, now you know for next time.
@@kitchensbyrannes Indeed! I wish I found your channel before I installed. But you helped me a lot with these videos, thanks very much! I felt the same way with those corner cabinets. They also don't soft close!! Because the soft close is on the attached arm/fold door portion and not the one that finally hits the end clasp. Unfortunate indeed.
Thanks. Yeah, you're right about the lack of soft-close on "the flap"
Maybe you can install one of those dampers which are installed on the frame?
Blum Retro-Fit Blumotion Soft Close Piston & Adapter Plate System (2) a.co/d/5xv0wr9
the ideal solution is a corner walk in pantry imho, not corner cabinets. Need enough room for it though. It eliminates regular countertop space - but adds countertop space inside. Absolutely love my new walk in pantry.
Lucky you. 👍
i'm sorry but i do not agree with you. the "rail problem" can easily be solved by using seperate pieces of rail. so you can easily ajust if the walls are not 90 degrees. the cabint you prefer takes up too much valuable space in the kitchen. All problems you mention can also easily be solved with a few fillers, witch also need to be used with the cabinet you prefer. also you do not need to use the rails. you can easily just bolt the cabinets to the wall. i strongly prefer the square cabinet as the longer one takes up valuable door space without being usefull.
No need to apologize. I'm okay with you liking the square corner. All the best.