It’s actually pretty genius how they handled Eminem in these tracks. Diss Royce for the Em connection and say he needs Marshal. Compliment Em. Now if Royce calls on Em, they can be like “See?” They strategically removed Em from coming to Royce’s aid.
This has nothing to do with Em tho. I doubt these two are scared of battling Em they're top freestylers, they just don't want to force Em into this. It would seem like they're reaching for clout. Everyone would want to battle someone as big as Em, if he responds it's a win-win situation even if you end up losing the diss battle...
@@moioim3781 I do not know due to CAssidy been running his mouth about Eminem rap style in last few weeks in interviews. And All of them are connected to Cassidy that why he was in the Mickey facts video.
I don’t think Eminem will jump in this. This ain’t the way he works. They gotta come at Eminem directly for him to get on a diss track. Maybe Crook will jump in tho.
Right now I don't think he will but it depends where this goes. Say it becames more so a battle of everyone vs everyone just for heavy weights to figure out who is the goat. At that point when enough of big named would have dropped some mean disses Em could very well step in aswell just to establish that he thinks he's the one.
"Y3 all the time, never a check in boxes," is a reference to an Adidas line of clothes and shoes, so he's saying he's got Adidas in the box--never Nikes.
“Playing BIG will put you in a box/That was Gravy’s plight” Jamal “Gravy” Woolard played the Notorious BIG in both “Notorious” and “All Eyez On Me”. He was a rapper but ended up being typecast or “put in a box” as a Biggie clone.
Also “playing Big will put you in a box” …. In basketball, playing the big position (center) will put you in the box (the key). And the obvious one, playing big, as in a big tough guy, will get you killed, and put into a box (coffin). Easy Triple there man, Mickey on some grown man shit 🔥🔥
I was thinking this too, like I could see Em being like "....I got nothing for you here bro, sorry." lol. I do hope he gets involved though. Crooked too. Just because I want more dope music to come from this. The way Em writes though, the whole beef will be over before he releases his track lol.
Dude said, you ain't "Christopher- Nolan -Ryan" look at what you're pitching me. Nolan Ryan the pitcher, also Christopher Nolan the director.. You pitch directors ideas for movies 🤣💀💪🏾
I'm probably just reaching here - That could also reference Ryan George from Screen Rant who does movie Pitch Meetings. So, a possible triple entendré in that line. But like I said, I could be reaching.
Y’all learning why Em shows humility to other artists. You never know what they are capable of if you give them enough ammo. Arrogance will get you slaughtered in this game
Yeah Mickey had some good bars and good disses, but Royce's technical writing skills are on a different level bro. Royce would rap circles around Mickey
They keep tap dancing around eminems name but no one wants to throw the first shot lol. If Royce and Eminem do a track it’s also gonna prove lupes point that he can only win with help. Being a “sidekick”
Not sure Em would really jump in this tbh. No one really dissed him directly. If they did maybe, but if he did right now, it'd just be for the challenge or competition. But Em doesn't generally do things like that.
The convo from the very start was about who can rap better though? Many guys joined that convo and it was a good convo to have. Then Royce releases a track with a couple shots but mostly it's all about his pen game. And then both Lupe and Mickey Factz do not outrap Royce but diss him. Which is cool but that's not what the topic was about. It was about rapping ability.
Out of all of them Lupe played the best chess strategy. The way he build the whole concept of Royce being a perpetual sidekick, getting a bunch of assists and needing bigger artists to boost him was very forward thinking cause if Royce comes back with another bigger artist to help him then it is a slam dunk for Lupe.
This was incredible. So many levels to this track. Definitely checked all those boxes. IMO in the Top 10 of Disses! Love how he flipped RJ Payne, Ransom, Royce and even Cassidy's flow. Amazing!
Mickey snapped on this. Royce needs to come back with some targeted shit. We know he can rap, but we need him to get in the battle. He hasn't earned the privilege of passing the beef to anyone in his camp yet.
Royce is being disingenuous. He could put out a track just as good, he has that ability, yet he's playing mind games. He pretty much made Mick apologize. He claims he doesn't understand Lupe's anger. He just seems to be trolling until he's had his fun manipulating things and then probably release something. It's the oddest thing I've ever seen from an emcee...
I don't think Royce should come back after this. This was treacherous. I felt bad for him by the time the impersonations started smh. Micky kept the attention on public events too. Nothing personal...yet
From all the fake reactors saying they're going to "Break it down" and then never actually do. You bro, is a real one. You break it down for real. Keep it.
Royce was under contract with a different label and he was only allowed to release/feature 1 song a year outside of his label. Since he had already done one he couldn't do Renegade with Eminem. Eminem asked his permission to let someone else rap his verse. So it was Royce's label that lead to that.
@@slumedia205 He isn't speculating Royce confirmed this in a interview with Crook i believe. He had two songs to choose from and preferred the other. Marshall had Jay asking him all the time to hop on a track and he asked Royce what is he doing about the two songs and was told he wasn't using Renegade so it got past to Hov.
@@slumedia205 Royce confirmed what Kenny is talking about. He could do a song with an artist not featured on the label. They recorded renegade and i can't recall the other tracks name but Renegade went to Hov because Royce at that time wasn't allowed release another track. Could Royce of maybe got them to budge sure, But he didn't and Marshall had it in the vault and Royce wasn't feeling it. I am 80% sure its the crooks corner interview he speaks on it in full as to why he didn't release it with Em.
@Anand Sounds about right, I like both versions but Em and Jayz lined up perfectly. Jay verses are better than what Royce laid but i also think Royce could of written something that could of been more in sync with what Em was spitting. Em and Jayz version builds more of a story with what hov laid while royce attacked it like he was flexing on people. He did a good verse and you could say Em writes something else and attaches it to the renegade beat but then i guess we never get the Detroit + NYC classic. So i am glad royce allowed marshall pass it over to Hov.
Royce had the track with fab on book of Ryan. But a long time ago, royce was brought to the shelter (Saint Andrews hall) he wasn't told he was gonna battle, so he wasn't prepared. Somebody didn't show up so royce ended up battling Mr. Fab, and lost.
"..and lost" ..lol shits sad yet hilarious @ the same time how somebody the caliber of Royce could be haunted by sth as simple & menial as 1 rap battle that accidently took over a decade ago... must've lost alotta sleep over it & would probably give up half his discography to take that 1 night back lol..
I waited for this and as soon as Mickey dropped it and reacted while at work haha don't tell anybody! 😂 anywho Stevie you did your thing on this! Great reaction, great breakdown and love the energy! Glad someone told me to come over here.
This was so 🔥🔥 was not expecting all this from Mickey and then he used Royce's "checkin the boxes" from their IG live over and over at the end 😂😂 can't wait to see the response! Royce gotta come with it.
@@ThatBoyBent yesss looking for them slow deep bars that really hit when u think about them. This sounded good but no impact for me.. didnt make me reflect on anything. I see why stevie loves it though as it was purely talk yo shit but at the end of the day its like.. Ok but you don't have the credentials to talk shit here.
Your not talking about em right?I like em, but he never battle an elite rapper (facts), he lost to mgk,mariah,evidence, royce(facts) em resume is, britney spear,will Smith, Christina Aguilera, benizo, ja rule, iggy,nsynce,( facts ). Wheres the weapon?. (You can respond emotionally if you want)
Dude stated Eminem's name in his first verse so if he wants Nuclear Warfare he might just get it. He should be careful or that button might get pushed. On a side note, I miss bars like this. So many whack artists out here nowadays.
@@holymsophy he didn’t lose to any of those people. Mariah was ended with The Warning, MGK got absolutely bodied with Killshot (so bad that he couldn’t even attempt a response), and Evidence even admits Em beat him… you wildin’ out here. I’d argue Eminem has yet to lose a public spat tbh
Stevie just barred without noticing it after the multiverse dimension line he said low key for all the MCU fans Loki and the multiverse lol maybe its just me tho haha
It sounds nice. I understand the connection between Marvel, multiverse, die-mentioning....but I'm really having a hard time understanding what he wanted to say with that ? Like he will die mentioning his verses ( multiverse )after marveling at them for too long...It makes no sense to me...but then again I'm romanian so maybe I'm missing something
@@danielandreisx You missed the MULTI VERSE part, thats a shot at Royce usual way of writing rhyme schemes. Royce writes most if not all of his VERSES in MULTIS (multisyllabic rhyme patterns). He also calls Royce redundant and breaks that down in the 3rd verse (a shot at his content with the same multi flow). So, he's saying Royce will die on that hill and wont switch his style up (Die Mention/Dimension). That bar alone has many layers (multiverse). Its insanely loaded
This shit was 🔥🔥🔥🎯. Royce told Mickey to put everything in his Rap, give his best, take his time. Mickey came thru. But... If somehow Royce tops this.. 😬 🤞🏼 End of Discussion .
What exactly did Royce say? Im late as fuck to this lol i ain't been paying attention the past couple days. Now all of a sudden, there's like 3 different diss tracks on Royce. From Lupe and now Mickey. I figured the Lupe thing was all in good fun tho, cuz they are homies. But idk, im lost as fuck haha.
@@joshuaha7661 There was a live between 3 Letterman Royce and Mickey then Joe budden came on later on and Royce started being condescending towards Mickey for the rest of that 40 minutes or so, questioning Mickey's ability of "checking boxes", he was also downplaying Mickeys praise of Lupe's lyricism on Mural since Royce tried doing his own Mural but was wayy out if his league, he also told Mickey that anything that comes outta his brain will never bother Royce and Joe was dickriding with Royce the whole time along with other disrespectful gestures but Mickey was humble asf and kept his cool
@@awonkemsutu3866 the amount of times Mickey flipped "Checkin boxes" in his diss track was absolutely ridiculous man. Thanks for taking the time to explain that as well, I was way late to this party haha 👍
Royce needs to respond with a Full diss track, not a song with a few jabs at them. I do not think royce lost yet because he never released a full song dissing and focusing only on both of them.
Right. People forgetting who Royce is. Mick did smack him with this one tho. Royce on some other shit. Playing mind games. He IS the evil in Bad meets Evil without a doubt. He manipulated Mick into apologizing already. I do not know what he's up to but it seems he's just doing bs to entertain himself like he's bored and wanted to stir up the pot. Everything that's happening is directly because of him and his taunting and being passive aggressive for like two months on IG live.
I don't think either of them dissed eminem and more kinda just complimented him and used him to undermine Royce make him seem like less of a rapper or something.
@@KonradCurves Lupe literally said anyone "EXCEPT EM".....both on camera and on twitter (on twitter he made a list and captioned it as the complete list of people he can't beat, saying everyone not listed he'd smoke. He listed Em as someone not to fuck with)
I don't think eminem will get involved, neither lupe nor mickey said anything to bring him in. They both mentioned that royce would need help and that his track was not to par with what they know he's capable of. Royce saying they're ganging up on him is silly since he asked for this. The slaughterhouse line was awesome to me in this one. It would be cool to see that group to have done more, but it is what it is. Bottom line, royce needs to get after the individuals and make a proper diss track response. This is going to make for some amazing rap content.
Yeah I think lupe saying cant blame you he’s one of my favorites too was too make sure eminem doesn’t get involved. But if he does its gonna be legendary.
I said the same ish. After they said he needs Em it would setup way to much for a response. Em is low key putting money into the battle rap scene so doesn’t make sense to go at him. Nobody is scared of him though
Royce swung on Lupe and Mickey and Lux and RJ Payne and Ransom, so whatever comes I feel like he should handle because you can't play the victim when you were talking reckless. Even though he'll likely involve Crooked. I think Eminem has way more to lose than gain getting involved. These guys study Eminem/Royce/Everybody and I'm sure they know how to copy what they do break it down and show it's not that impressive. (Regardless if their copy still isn't better than the original) I don't think it's worth messing with the nerds because they likely did their homework and are very well prepared. But idk because Eminem is a nerd too so it really comes down to who's studied harder.
@@Newtoschool bro eminem is the biggest fucking nerd in all this shit. He has shown his love for the game how he studies and knows it religiously. Couple years back em namdroped a new rapper and he was like ow I didn’t know em even knew about me and such and I thought it was a fair thing to say but em’s response was hostile as he took offense that shocked me as he said something like this is my craft, you dont think I know my craft and competitors you think I’ve fallen off and not aware or some shit. I dont think you can say there is a bigger hip hop nerd than eminem. So if you say they studied em, I am sure as fuk that em probably studied them as much or even more. And also The hunger em has as he has expressed because of all the bs hate he gets he constantly feels like he should prove himself as the biggest in the game. And with his ability and the fans he has got I know he has the confidence to go at any bodies neck even though he has some shit to lose. But the thing with em is he knows the status he has and has said lose lose for me win win for you, he knows people go at him just for the clout and his response even if he wins means a win for the opponent and that leads to motherfuckers taking advantage of that. So he has to feel their at similar levels and worthy and have some what of a respect for them to then value their opinions and disses and get offended and challenged and then respond. After all if some no body on the street starts talking shit to you, your not gonna get offended and start fighting them. You need to feel they are qualified to talk that shit for you to get offended and strike back. Otherwise me on the other side of the world can put out a track talking shit about for example em and get famous off of his response. Its a tough situation for somebody that big and their actions need to be thought out and I think em is no exception. Plus It got long sorry but I have to add this all of this rap beef is based on public opinion and what people feel so with the fans em got I dont think he is ever gonna loose at least not for a long time in the future. Cuz his ability is high enough that nobody could get a clear win and if even if somebody could get close that its not so clear, he has the most fiery fans out of anybody else to make sure he gets the win, me personally I dont think he needs that and If he was just a new rapper starting out with the same ability and little fans he could still win the high majority of battles thrown his way but the huge fan base thing is a reality also that plays a part.
They wanna take a shot at Em, but they know the consequences. Never a good idea to start shit with a guy who operates at his highest level in beefs. And he'll be writing bars about you for the next 20 years
This is what I hate about this NEW HIP-HOP FANS yall too FANBOY like I'm a Royce fan but he getting smoked right now and I respect lyricists. Dude this is skill, IRON SHARPENS IRON Royce arrogance started this.
mickey is def my favorite one to speak up so far. the way he did that track was insane af and im def hyped to see how far this beef really goes and hopefully it just stays to the tracks in the end.
They accused Royce of starting the beef over some project he had. It's now clear that These guys baited Royce to push their stuff. They're even trying to draw out Eminem for extra exposure.
@@fictionalcharactermov7471 thats Why he just promotet his new upcoming rap Album, won Awards and got from Rap Devil 4M sub to now with 7M+ sub sure dude he did everything wrong. 👍🏻
Yes, you're damn correct now. While Lu didn't waste time with them lyrical miracle acrobatics and went straight for the Royce's neck, Mickey did both. He outdid them both, but I really want to see what Lu will do when he takes his time to write. Let's see, I'm hoping for a Em, Rocye and Ortiz or sum other against Lu, Mickey and Lux/Day/Soul.
@@burdman1333 check Lupe's latest IG live Q&A. He said that he went from "who raps better" to a diss. He said that his intention wasn't to do that lyrical, miracle, spiritual shit when Royce dropped his track. Check it up, it's Lupe describing this beef, literally.
Eminem will battle against Andre 3000 Ina future before 2020 they talk about it and eminem posted about it .. To be ready.. He said he will outrap Eminem all day
Royce is under fire because they are trying to get an angle in on Slim, Crook and the rest of the industry rappers. Los and Daylyt have already said that this needs to happen for the Hiphop game. I agree. They keep dancing around Em and Crooks name without being too disrespectful. It’s bait and I love it.
Completely agree. But they don't want the smoke with Crook and Em,although i fucks with Mickey hard. Btw,my opinion,the only few who could challenge Em are Lux,Daylyt and maybe Lupe.
@@JT-bb2vj i just hope Em put them on his radar and drop that "before you step in the ring you have to be a diamond" isht and keep it hiphop. And you can't just say they can wash Em like that lol. You have to be a hypocrite to say that. At the back of your head you know they can't. But they can box with him for sure.
I don’t want Em to jump in because he never got disrespected. Royce is just shooting his mouth around because he thinks no one will respond in fear of Em. He either stand up for himself or just fade out into the shadows where he should.
I hope literally everyone gets involved. This is rap beef at it's finest. Doesn't matter if it's directly about you or not, that's not how rap beef works.
So it’s ok for Mickey to jump in to steal the limelight on the back of somebody else’s situation, but Royce has to handle them and anybody else that does the same, by himself? Behave. If this ain’t 1v1 then make it open invitation for both sides
@@appalachian_restorations229 bro, I’m reading these responses asking for Em to come in and I’m confused. Because I’m a HUGE Eminem fan, but Royce got bars. If he is asking for Em, or Crooked or whatever it’s because he’s trying to save hip hop
Dope reaction stevie! Ya'll mark my words, Eminem will not get into this beef in a million years. It'd be so dumb. All the disses mocked royce for being Em's sidekick, and now Royce gonna turn to the actual Goat for help?? How weak and lame that will make him look. Crook be dope tho. He's a killer. But Em WOULD NEVER GET INVOLVED. Mark my words. 💯💯💯💯
After Royce disrespected Mickey on ig, mickey asked Royce if he should release a track and Royce said go on show me what you got. Royce put a gun in a sharp shooter's hand and told him to shoot. What was he supposed to do 😂😂😂😂
For all of you saying "I hope Em jumps in" just know y'all will prove Lupe's point that he needs Em to be hot or even win in a Diss Track Battle. Royce barely hit at Lupe in Round 1 so Lupe has Round 1 EASILY. I love Royce but he needs to go at the neck in these diss tracks like he used to back in the day. Mans dissed all of D12 so where is that energy now? Come on Royce get in the booth and GO AT NECKS! 👌🏼💯
That is exactly it, lupe and especially micky, locked em and slaughterhouse out, they already said he needs them so the minute any of them stepped in royce lost. Em, crook and joell could have jumped in and royce still would have lost. Royce was playing chess, lupe and especially mickey were playing chess. Re watching alot of this with the slaughterhouse crap going on, I'm thinking royce feels a certain way cause crook and joell didn't jump in. But royce made the statement he could take anyone,others jumping in wouldnt have proved royce words, but it would have proved mickey facts words.
Anyone else re- listening to this on 3-7-22 because they are trying to remember how much of a scared ass Royce was being then , considering he is doing it again with Instagram live shit instead of getting in the booth. Referring to all this Slaughterhouse beef with Crook, Ortiz. Budden, Royce.
Not sure if Mickey is into Naruto but that "Really under the weather, PAIN!!" Part jumped at me, lol. I know he's multilayered so just MAYBE that reference was included, lol
@@roynewton2709 if stay say hailey's name in a disrespectful way ... he will eat them at lunch and he will drop another 3 albums till the end of the year
@@roynewton2709 Name one legit lyricist that put out a diss track on Em and Em didn’t respond. Unless you think Nick Cannon got bars. Em respects lyricism and gives props to the ones that came before hiim, but if any of them would come at him, he would turn them into meatloaf.
@@roynewton2709 I'ma say it again. He beefs who ever is left after MCs run away from the smoke. Also... what the fuck does having a vagina have to do with rap? These people aren't boxing in a ring. Rapping is about brain power, not actual bodies.
Em has nothing to do with this, calling someone "Eminem's sidekick" isn't a diss towards Em... Lupe didn't even mention his name to avoid fans reaching lol
As for a battle rap- rap beef track, Mickey put a checkmate on Royce. He called out Royce on everything he could possibly respond with. That is the core of a successful battle rapper. Think about what your opponent is gonna say and call him out on it before he says it. Royce has to respond solo cause they said he would be a punk to bring anyone from slaughterhouse, which you know Royce said he got rap friends too!!! So fire!!!
He keeps bringing Eminem into this, I hope Eminem response oh, I noticed that not pulling down Eminem but they're putting his best friend down whose side you think Eminem is going to be on, and again I will say this they are taking the focus off of the original tropic that Lupe going so hard for EODUBS, thats how this whole thing came about, u guys are tryin to make u mad, and its working!
I would say Mickey 2 just cuz I've never heard of them and he just literally depicted everything Roy said but like I said I don't know if you want to wake up that sleeping giant because just because you know what happens when Eminem get mad, and you don't want that 10in pad well he's thinking about you LMFAO so, this could be another Benzino Ja Rule and all those guys against Eminem Roy's all of slaughterhouse including button and maybe we'll get Yelawolf trick trick and forget about if we get Crooked I OMG I would love to see this rap battle but it looks like Lupe and Mickey has learned from the best Eminem. Mia but I just wanted to be a beef nothing more but the way Mickey was just talkin IDK it's a fine time. Yes it is LOL I love this OMG(OH MY GOATS). Mia
@@miaclaudio5428 I agree that's why I typed my first comment. If Eminem thinks a Response is necessary only time will tell, I am looking forward to the future.
Em is too much of a Giant for this… Kid Vicious might step in or Crooked might if somebody else jumps in but Royce did challenge all of them solo so it’s time for him to prove a point
@@CrazeeAdam it’s crazy how EVERYBODY came outside for K Dot’s Control verse.. but nobody has really responded to Rap GOD or Kamikaze… it definitely shows the respect his peers have for him
As much as em has been out there wanting smoke, the least he can do is the intro to a Royce response to see if they come back at him.. Mickey definitely deserves a response after that performance 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
So you might have missed the other meaning on the tetris columns double. Columns was a game on Sega Genesis that was a Tetris competitor. A good game, but different. Another meaning that he dropped in there. Old school reference.
*No if Royce gets Eminem to help him on a Diss track I think Lupe wins because he called Royce EM’s sidekick so if that happens it proves Lupe was right.* *So I hope Royce gets some other rappers on his side without Em’s help on this one.*
Lol nah fam I doubt Em Gon jump in but Lupe was proofing an L by saying that line cz he still bitter he didn't get in on Slaughterhouse, but at the end of the day it ain't Royce's fault the he friends with an elite rapper.😹😹😹 Royce and crook will still wash the two and send that the invoice for reviving their career😹😹
this best diss track since killshot.. maybe even better. even used the title and picture kinda like em did. its a rolls royce on fire. and a wraith is a rolls
Bruh 17:05 dude said "all them dumb shots when I'm un bak with this defense" bruh 🔥 🔥 🔥 un bak aka the muy Thai movie with Tony Jaa where dude was unbeatable and the toughest around with his muy Thai
Came back to listen to this after all the slaughterhouse fall out and what can I say.... this Diss track should be studied in schools!! This is Ivy League lyricism 🔥
Mickey’s diss lyrically was miles ahead of Lupe’s. Objectively speaking it’s one of the illest disses ever laid to wax from a skill perspective! Mickey painted a masterpiece! This is coming from a huge Royce fan also. Mickey been an👽on his A game (Peep Mickey Mause project, some top features, top freestyles, etc) Stevie we have the exact same feeling. Mickey took the best of Lupe directness and Royce’s lyricism/pen and made a straight classic diss! I want lyrical warfare from all the 👽MCs!
The "Y-3 all the time, never a check in boxes" line is a reference to Yoji Yamamoto's shoe brand Y-3 I think. Mickey wears that stuff religiously. He's saying he's not out with a Nike shoe box ever. Kinda light but a fire way to start the whole scheme.
The marvel multiverse dimension line references to the MCU movie Spider Man - Into The Spider-Verse. The movie centres around different versions of Spider-Man from different dimensions. ‘Marvel at your multiverse till you die-mentioning that’ Royce is praised for his ability to write multi syllable rhyme schemes in his verses
@@Gearyco you sound crazy you need to listen to Dead Presidents heads, those jab along killed the outsiderz, Malcom X and Who got bodies are diss classic songs. Royce made a song and took a few jabs, if he did a full diss track i think we will se some different reactions from fans. But it is still alot of fans that want him to fail due to his connection to EM.
“Marvel multiverse dimensioning that” marvel at your multi verses your gonna die mentioning that?🤔am i reaching or does that make sense? Royce is marvel at his verses so he’s gonna die mentioning that?
Something like "if u keep saying u the best all the time while around other killers, that's all you'll do when u get bodied". Which is kinda what royce did actually. A large portion of "silence of the lambda" was just royce flexing how nice he was. But that's my interpretation ofc
His referring to the song Summer on Lock featuring Jadakiss and Fabolous which was on Book of Ryan, but then referring to the battle back in 2000s Royce V Mistah Fab
This was 🔥. It brings me back to the 90s when rapper's actually had to be nice on the 🎤. I hope it doesn't turn ugly but makes people hungry to evolve so rap can go back to the way it use to be.
Mickey's fire and he's a modern battle rapper which definitely gives him an advantage when it comes to structuring punchlines and using angles, to me. A lot of these "industry" rappers have no experience in that department and the ones that used to do it did it back when battle rap was totally different than it is now. Check out Mickey Factz vs DNA. Crazy battle.
@@stevebell5970 battle rap now is completely different than going from hood to hood battling on the corner with pre-written material that they would use over and over again just trying to get a name. King Los has had the best return on the battle rap stage as an industry artist the rest failed miserably. Canibus, Joe Budden, Jae Millz just to name a few. Cassidy was trash his first few battles back but now that he has a few under his belt he's starting to adapt to the times.
Lol daylyt was talking about going at ransom but not sure if in a old interview if he was complementing him or disrespecting him. Lol daylyt trying to find a reason to go in. He gave Micky his flowers for this diss.
Royce basically said Mural wasn’t all that impressive then dropped a track over the beat, and it wasn’t nearly as good as the original track. I think that’s the reference
The ONLY way Royce can get some of his shine back at this point is if he comes with that energy that he put into that "Malcolm X" diss track against D12.
3 problems with this beef: I: paying homages in district, mgk mistake. II: repeating Lupe points in very I'll way, but if you pay attention he repeating a couple of points. III: too much Eminem's references. 4th: I really love if this beef turns to a hip-hop massacre.. My loved bars, die-mention and band-aid these were cold and slick
Or…. They’re tiptoeing around his name to get a reaction from him. Beefing with Em, lose or win, is a plus for them. It’s also not his beef so going at him directly would make 0 sense.
"I told him 'Prove you do what I do,' he gave me lampshade And said no, I gave the bitch room, and then the man cave" also to note "lapmshade, room, and man cave" are all a play on rooms words. Aperantly Royce game Mikey lapmshade and Mikey wasn't having it so Mikey gave Royce a room but ended up in a mancave.
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Meanwhile Royce keep trying to clown Mickey. That "big boy" bullshit just ain't gon keep flying. We need bars. Not you being corny.
It’s actually pretty genius how they handled Eminem in these tracks.
Diss Royce for the Em connection and say he needs Marshal. Compliment Em.
Now if Royce calls on Em, they can be like “See?” They strategically removed Em from coming to Royce’s aid.
Genius
Yeah man, totally defused it. They both actually fucks with Ems music, so they're being sure not to bring him in.
Yeah... but they dealing with savages... Em don't give a fuck about your "rules"... He's bored and loyal, this is gonna get big...
This has nothing to do with Em tho. I doubt these two are scared of battling Em they're top freestylers, they just don't want to force Em into this. It would seem like they're reaching for clout. Everyone would want to battle someone as big as Em, if he responds it's a win-win situation even if you end up losing the diss battle...
@@moioim3781 I do not know due to CAssidy been running his mouth about Eminem rap style in last few weeks in interviews. And All of them are connected to Cassidy that why he was in the Mickey facts video.
I don’t think Eminem will jump in this. This ain’t the way he works. They gotta come at Eminem directly for him to get on a diss track. Maybe Crook will jump in tho.
Yeah em won't come unless it's directed at him.
Well Lupe actually credited Eminem in a good way on his Steve jobs track!
Right now I don't think he will but it depends where this goes. Say it becames more so a battle of everyone vs everyone just for heavy weights to figure out who is the goat. At that point when enough of big named would have dropped some mean disses Em could very well step in aswell just to establish that he thinks he's the one.
Probably that's the reason Lupe praised eminem in his diss,to avoid em to get involve
@@josemendoza9896 "to avoid em to get involve"
Just trying to help here.. that makes no sense.
"Y3 all the time, never a check in boxes," is a reference to an Adidas line of clothes and shoes, so he's saying he's got Adidas in the box--never Nikes.
“Playing BIG will put you in a box/That was Gravy’s plight”
Jamal “Gravy” Woolard played the Notorious BIG in both “Notorious” and “All Eyez On Me”. He was a rapper but ended up being typecast or “put in a box” as a Biggie clone.
I've not even heard it yet but damn that's a bar
Also “playing Big will put you in a box” …. In basketball, playing the big position (center) will put you in the box (the key).
And the obvious one, playing big, as in a big tough guy, will get you killed, and put into a box (coffin).
Easy Triple there man, Mickey on some grown man shit 🔥🔥
That's rebuttal to EMINEM line last Remix
Doubles/Triples/Quads...Mickey is different
I was trying to figure that shit out! THANK YOU
You know Eminem is chillin in his mansion listening to this today like damn Royce he’s bodying you bro
Anyone being objective has to admit it’s one of the illest lyrical disses ever!
I was thinking this too, like I could see Em being like "....I got nothing for you here bro, sorry." lol.
I do hope he gets involved though. Crooked too. Just because I want more dope music to come from this. The way Em writes though, the whole beef will be over before he releases his track lol.
Eminem: Damn Dawg you getting bodied bro.
Royce: 😦
Never.
@@TwistedSisler crooked would absolutely body everyone of them
"Y3 all the time, never a check in boxes" Y3 = Adidas clothing line. Never a check ✔ (Nike) in boxes. 🔥
Dude said, you ain't "Christopher- Nolan -Ryan" look at what you're pitching me. Nolan Ryan the pitcher, also Christopher Nolan the director.. You pitch directors ideas for movies 🤣💀💪🏾
I'm probably just reaching here -
That could also reference Ryan George from Screen Rant who does movie Pitch Meetings. So, a possible triple entendré in that line.
But like I said, I could be reaching.
Absolutely fucking fire wtf how did I miss this? Mickey went overkill on this
@@thatofromsoweto at this point, we're just gonna ride with that too my G. This track had so many levels, you can't doubt anything. LMAO!!!🔥
@@ocsmo5650 there was so much to unpack. This one is one for the books bruh. Somebody need to go ahead and crown that dude👑🔥
@@ocsmo5650 its insane
This track summarises why we love the art of lyricism in hip hop. Mickey went off!
Y’all learning why Em shows humility to other artists. You never know what they are capable of if you give them enough ammo. Arrogance will get you slaughtered in this game
Yeah Mickey had some good bars and good disses, but Royce's technical writing skills are on a different level bro. Royce would rap circles around Mickey
@@dennisrowley5685 i guess we'll never know
Yup
Em genuinely loves hip hop and knows what its about
If Royce is teaming up with Crooked vs Micky and Lupe, that could be crazy!!
facts
Daamn, that combo would also make Royce the sidekick..
Nah, Royce gotta handle this by his lonely. He can team up with Kid Vishis, but that's about it.
I agree with that line up!!!!
I’m just mad cause Royce don’t need nobody really though. He killed D12 by himself
They keep tap dancing around eminems name but no one wants to throw the first shot lol. If Royce and Eminem do a track it’s also gonna prove lupes point that he can only win with help. Being a “sidekick”
They wont do tracks together for some time. I can assure u.
I dont think they wanna jab at eminem bcs that wud become very public and risky.
They r trapping royce.
Very tactical.
Not sure Em would really jump in this tbh. No one really dissed him directly. If they did maybe, but if he did right now, it'd just be for the challenge or competition. But Em doesn't generally do things like that.
Shut up Lupe got outrapped by mickey factz 😂🤣😂 that's the biggest story here
@@CrazeeAdam yeah there has to be context and story for him to respond to shit like this. Rn it seems childish
Royce asked for all this smoke and now he feel like they ganging up on him lmao you can't make this shit up
Exactly lmao
The convo from the very start was about who can rap better though? Many guys joined that convo and it was a good convo to have. Then Royce releases a track with a couple shots but mostly it's all about his pen game. And then both Lupe and Mickey Factz do not outrap Royce but diss him. Which is cool but that's not what the topic was about. It was about rapping ability.
@@MalphasMikaelson Royce throwing shots was dumb then. Don’t put out a half-diss if that’s not your goal. Now he’s getting roasted left and right
@@MalphasMikaelson Ah yes, the track about his Pen game where he threatened to murder somebody's children.
Sounds like they were plotting this before they went at him
I hope Em stays out of this shit. Royce got himself in this situation
Hmm..true
Same here. Besides it's been said that Royce better than em. Let's see.
He will this ain't female pop stars to go at
@@christaker8953 this ain’t the place for female pop star lovers.
@@christaker8953 you must be one of those sad haters who say eminem is trash and not relevant.
Lupe was disrespectful
royce was technical
mickey was masterful
Facts
Out of all of them Lupe played the best chess strategy. The way he build the whole concept of Royce being a perpetual sidekick, getting a bunch of assists and needing bigger artists to boost him was very forward thinking cause if Royce comes back with another bigger artist to help him then it is a slam dunk for Lupe.
@@ImInYourBrains Lupe and Mickey are in the lead against Nickel Nine.
Lupe was FILTHY-CLEAN WITH IT
Lupe was disrespectful
royce was technical
mickey was masterful
Crook was tyrannical
Eminem was legendary
Finished.
Triple entendre “when Ryan Seacrest, when Ryan see crest, when Ryan seek rest.”
Just checking boxes
@@relativelybasic factz
That's not a triple entendre. That's a double entendre. The "seek rest" doesn't count
@@thaimperial97 technically speaking it can
Rye and Sikh rez
This was incredible. So many levels to this track. Definitely checked all those boxes. IMO in the Top 10 of Disses! Love how he flipped RJ Payne, Ransom, Royce and even Cassidy's flow. Amazing!
Mickey snapped on this. Royce needs to come back with some targeted shit. We know he can rap, but we need him to get in the battle. He hasn't earned the privilege of passing the beef to anyone in his camp yet.
I disagree. Royce can call for help because he suck right now
@@therealestMSG Just means Royce is taking L's left, right and center.
Royce is being disingenuous. He could put out a track just as good, he has that ability, yet he's playing mind games. He pretty much made Mick apologize. He claims he doesn't understand Lupe's anger. He just seems to be trolling until he's had his fun manipulating things and then probably release something. It's the oddest thing I've ever seen from an emcee...
I don't think Royce should come back after this. This was treacherous. I felt bad for him by the time the impersonations started smh. Micky kept the attention on public events too. Nothing personal...yet
@@LiamJaytheGreat royce just ain't good enough. Only the weak make excuses
From all the fake reactors saying they're going to "Break it down" and then never actually do. You bro, is a real one. You break it down for real. Keep it.
Micky "Eminem'ed" him
Lupe "Pusha T'ed' him
Royce was under contract with a different label and he was only allowed to release/feature 1 song a year outside of his label. Since he had already done one he couldn't do Renegade with Eminem. Eminem asked his permission to let someone else rap his verse. So it was Royce's label that lead to that.
DONT SPECULATE ON SHIT YOU WERENT IN THE ROOM TO HEAR
@@slumedia205 He isn't speculating Royce confirmed this in a interview with Crook i believe. He had two songs to choose from and preferred the other. Marshall had Jay asking him all the time to hop on a track and he asked Royce what is he doing about the two songs and was told he wasn't using Renegade so it got past to Hov.
@@d3toxd670 the fact it may have got passed to hov doesn’t mean he wasn’t allowed to do it. That’s usually a misconception in the contracts.
@@slumedia205 Royce confirmed what Kenny is talking about. He could do a song with an artist not featured on the label. They recorded renegade and i can't recall the other tracks name but Renegade went to Hov because Royce at that time wasn't allowed release another track. Could Royce of maybe got them to budge sure, But he didn't and Marshall had it in the vault and Royce wasn't feeling it. I am 80% sure its the crooks corner interview he speaks on it in full as to why he didn't release it with Em.
@Anand Sounds about right, I like both versions but Em and Jayz lined up perfectly. Jay verses are better than what Royce laid but i also think Royce could of written something that could of been more in sync with what Em was spitting. Em and Jayz version builds more of a story with what hov laid while royce attacked it like he was flexing on people. He did a good verse and you could say Em writes something else and attaches it to the renegade beat but then i guess we never get the Detroit + NYC classic. So i am glad royce allowed marshall pass it over to Hov.
Royce had the track with fab on book of Ryan. But a long time ago, royce was brought to the shelter (Saint Andrews hall) he wasn't told he was gonna battle, so he wasn't prepared. Somebody didn't show up so royce ended up battling Mr. Fab, and lost.
"..and lost" ..lol
shits sad yet hilarious @ the same time how somebody the caliber of Royce could be haunted by sth as simple & menial as 1 rap battle that accidently took over a decade ago... must've lost alotta sleep over it & would probably give up half his discography to take that 1 night back lol..
Way better than lupe diss 👌
Royce and Daylyt rapped on the Mural beat. Daylyt went crazy on that beat too. Lupe's Mural track is one of the best songs of the 2010-2020 decade.
Yeah, but Royce’s version sounded almost like nursery rhymes in comparison to Daylyt and Lupe’s version. Lol.
I waited for this and as soon as Mickey dropped it and reacted while at work haha don't tell anybody! 😂 anywho Stevie you did your thing on this! Great reaction, great breakdown and love the energy! Glad someone told me to come over here.
SALUTE HIP HOP DEFINITELY NEEDED THIS MC'S BARS ARE BACK
The real lyricism has resurfaced. The healthy competition has resurfaced.
This was so 🔥🔥 was not expecting all this from Mickey and then he used Royce's "checkin the boxes" from their IG live over and over at the end 😂😂 can't wait to see the response! Royce gotta come with it.
Joe was on IG Live and Mickey still didn’t check all the boxes 🤣🤣🤣… they need to disclose what these boxes are
sure... will you be here in a year? because thats how much it will take
@@NextMJ2 Daylit did... on the same IG live 59 called out mickey..
@@ThatBoyBent yesss looking for them slow deep bars that really hit when u think about them. This sounded good but no impact for me.. didnt make me reflect on anything. I see why stevie loves it though as it was purely talk yo shit but at the end of the day its like.. Ok but you don't have the credentials to talk shit here.
Yeah hopefully Royce responds with something good. Cause Royces response to lupe was trash.
He cant call Eminem for help, the use of weapons of mass destruction is a violation of the rules
I say he roll up with Kid Vishis
Your not talking about em right?I like em, but he never battle an elite rapper (facts), he lost to mgk,mariah,evidence, royce(facts) em resume is, britney spear,will Smith, Christina Aguilera, benizo, ja rule, iggy,nsynce,( facts ). Wheres the weapon?. (You can respond emotionally if you want)
Dude stated Eminem's name in his first verse so if he wants Nuclear Warfare he might just get it. He should be careful or that button might get pushed.
On a side note, I miss bars like this. So many whack artists out here nowadays.
@@holymsophy he didn’t lose to any of those people. Mariah was ended with The Warning, MGK got absolutely bodied with Killshot (so bad that he couldn’t even attempt a response), and Evidence even admits Em beat him… you wildin’ out here. I’d argue Eminem has yet to lose a public spat tbh
@@SmittySmith-ev8fo ... define facts ?
Stevie just barred without noticing it after the multiverse dimension line he said low key for all the MCU fans Loki and the multiverse lol maybe its just me tho haha
thank you i fucking missed that
i loki caught that 2
Nah that was intentional, nice catch.
@@brianmcleod5474 yea I caught mickeys bars but Stevie didnt catch it but used the words “Low key” following the multiverse bar lol
he said U marvel at.., also in that scheme obv Marvel
Great reaction, Great Break Down, and the energy you bring shows you love what you do. Wish you much success
"Marvel at your multiverse till you die mentioning (dimension) that."?!?!? All in Ransoms style?!?!? That bar is soooo heavy.
Yeah. He missed the marvel connection because of marvel known to have multiverse.
It sounds nice. I understand the connection between Marvel, multiverse, die-mentioning....but I'm really having a hard time understanding what he wanted to say with that ? Like he will die mentioning his verses ( multiverse )after marveling at them for too long...It makes no sense to me...but then again I'm romanian so maybe I'm missing something
@@danielandreisx You missed the MULTI VERSE part, thats a shot at Royce usual way of writing rhyme schemes. Royce writes most if not all of his VERSES in MULTIS (multisyllabic rhyme patterns). He also calls Royce redundant and breaks that down in the 3rd verse (a shot at his content with the same multi flow). So, he's saying Royce will die on that hill and wont switch his style up (Die Mention/Dimension). That bar alone has many layers (multiverse). Its insanely loaded
@@jayseth thanks for the demonstration bro
Mickey been underrated his entire career that man can rap his ass off
Factz!!
@@nismojukerich2994 i see you
This shit was 🔥🔥🔥🎯.
Royce told Mickey to put everything in his Rap, give his best, take his time. Mickey came thru.
But... If somehow Royce tops this.. 😬 🤞🏼
End of Discussion .
Yeah and where his classics while he calling out Royce about having none
@@hrishid291 mickey already said he gonna respond to royces response if he puts one out lmao. mickey determined to win this shits!
“playing Mufasa got you some Battle Scars”
That’s a line towards Lupe’s track “Battle scars”
No….. its not
Battle scar is Guy Sebastian’s track featuring Lupe
@@zqsquad8254 Its on Food and Liquor 2 bro...
possibly making it a triple...Lion King as well.
Also isn't Scar is Mufasa's brother?
You should watch the live from a few days ago, royce was sonning mickey hard telling him he don't check boxes, it makes this diss so much better
Mickey handled that "sonning" from Royce & Budden with respect and maturity
was watching the recording. I was expecting this royce and budden tried to clown Mickey
What exactly did Royce say? Im late as fuck to this lol i ain't been paying attention the past couple days. Now all of a sudden, there's like 3 different diss tracks on Royce. From Lupe and now Mickey. I figured the Lupe thing was all in good fun tho, cuz they are homies. But idk, im lost as fuck haha.
@@joshuaha7661 There was a live between 3 Letterman Royce and Mickey then Joe budden came on later on and Royce started being condescending towards Mickey for the rest of that 40 minutes or so, questioning Mickey's ability of "checking boxes", he was also downplaying Mickeys praise of Lupe's lyricism on Mural since Royce tried doing his own Mural but was wayy out if his league, he also told Mickey that anything that comes outta his brain will never bother Royce and Joe was dickriding with Royce the whole time along with other disrespectful gestures but Mickey was humble asf and kept his cool
@@awonkemsutu3866 the amount of times Mickey flipped "Checkin boxes" in his diss track was absolutely ridiculous man. Thanks for taking the time to explain that as well, I was way late to this party haha 👍
If Royce responds its gonna be mos def a hard joint. If he doesnt, he will take the biggest L of the year 🤦🏽♂️
Bigger than the L Meek took from Drake.
He definitely gonna responds. Royce is not like that to just take shit and keep silent.
Royce needs to respond with a Full diss track, not a song with a few jabs at them. I do not think royce lost yet because he never released a full song dissing and focusing only on both of them.
😆
@@jamesgibson3716 and bigger than the L Drake took from Pusha T
I like Royce Da 5'9, but man, that track is still smoking from the heat level more than an hour I stopped listening to it. Damn, he better respond.
You're girl into ghostin goblin "sega" night(say goodnight). Ghosts and goblins an old sega genesis game. Pretty clever
Way way clever!
Super super clever bro. Damn.
Ghost is also the model of Rolls Royce in the very next bar.
Snuck that one
Song hard af, but its Royce, he better hop on a track
Right. People forgetting who Royce is. Mick did smack him with this one tho. Royce on some other shit. Playing mind games. He IS the evil in Bad meets Evil without a doubt. He manipulated Mick into apologizing already. I do not know what he's up to but it seems he's just doing bs to entertain himself like he's bored and wanted to stir up the pot. Everything that's happening is directly because of him and his taunting and being passive aggressive for like two months on IG live.
I don't think either of them dissed eminem and more kinda just complimented him and used him to undermine Royce make him seem like less of a rapper or something.
They ain’t dumb enough to diss em outright
I think they put the compliments after mentioning em to make sure he doesn’t get involved.
@@FifaCentralrarity Well Lupe been on record saying he would smoke em if it came to it. Infact he said anyone.
@@KonradCurves Lupe literally said anyone "EXCEPT EM".....both on camera and on twitter (on twitter he made a list and captioned it as the complete list of people he can't beat, saying everyone not listed he'd smoke. He listed Em as someone not to fuck with)
@@scamrasc Yea I saw that too.
I don't think eminem will get involved, neither lupe nor mickey said anything to bring him in. They both mentioned that royce would need help and that his track was not to par with what they know he's capable of. Royce saying they're ganging up on him is silly since he asked for this. The slaughterhouse line was awesome to me in this one. It would be cool to see that group to have done more, but it is what it is.
Bottom line, royce needs to get after the individuals and make a proper diss track response. This is going to make for some amazing rap content.
Yeah I think lupe saying cant blame you he’s one of my favorites too was too make sure eminem doesn’t get involved. But if he does its gonna be legendary.
I said the same ish. After they said he needs Em it would setup way to much for a response. Em is low key putting money into the battle rap scene so doesn’t make sense to go at him. Nobody is scared of him though
Royce swung on Lupe and Mickey and Lux and RJ Payne and Ransom, so whatever comes I feel like he should handle because you can't play the victim when you were talking reckless. Even though he'll likely involve Crooked.
I think Eminem has way more to lose than gain getting involved. These guys study Eminem/Royce/Everybody and I'm sure they know how to copy what they do break it down and show it's not that impressive. (Regardless if their copy still isn't better than the original) I don't think it's worth messing with the nerds because they likely did their homework and are very well prepared. But idk because Eminem is a nerd too so it really comes down to who's studied harder.
@@Newtoschool bro eminem is the biggest fucking nerd in all this shit. He has shown his love for the game how he studies and knows it religiously. Couple years back em namdroped a new rapper and he was like ow I didn’t know em even knew about me and such and I thought it was a fair thing to say but em’s response was hostile as he took offense that shocked me as he said something like this is my craft, you dont think I know my craft and competitors you think I’ve fallen off and not aware or some shit. I dont think you can say there is a bigger hip hop nerd than eminem. So if you say they studied em, I am sure as fuk that em probably studied them as much or even more. And also The hunger em has as he has expressed because of all the bs hate he gets he constantly feels like he should prove himself as the biggest in the game. And with his ability and the fans he has got I know he has the confidence to go at any bodies neck even though he has some shit to lose. But the thing with em is he knows the status he has and has said lose lose for me win win for you, he knows people go at him just for the clout and his response even if he wins means a win for the opponent and that leads to motherfuckers taking advantage of that. So he has to feel their at similar levels and worthy and have some what of a respect for them to then value their opinions and disses and get offended and challenged and then respond. After all if some no body on the street starts talking shit to you, your not gonna get offended and start fighting them. You need to feel they are qualified to talk that shit for you to get offended and strike back. Otherwise me on the other side of the world can put out a track talking shit about for example em and get famous off of his response. Its a tough situation for somebody that big and their actions need to be thought out and I think em is no exception.
Plus It got long sorry but I have to add this all of this rap beef is based on public opinion and what people feel so with the fans em got I dont think he is ever gonna loose at least not for a long time in the future. Cuz his ability is high enough that nobody could get a clear win and if even if somebody could get close that its not so clear, he has the most fiery fans out of anybody else to make sure he gets the win, me personally I dont think he needs that and If he was just a new rapper starting out with the same ability and little fans he could still win the high majority of battles thrown his way but the huge fan base thing is a reality also that plays a part.
@@m.g7408 Perfectly said.
They wanna take a shot at Em, but they know the consequences. Never a good idea to start shit with a guy who operates at his highest level in beefs. And he'll be writing bars about you for the next 20 years
Hopefully Em got another 20 years left in the game but I doubt it
@@DzNutz503 he will do it for next 40 years...and still be relevant...mark my words...
@@dhananjaydubey2773 he'll be dead by then
Facts though , Em will write bars about them till he dies 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@dhananjaydubey2773 unless he out here eating baby fetuses idk...
This is gonna be a moment in Hip-Hop, make sure everybody time stamp this. We will be talking about this whole thing for years.
This is what I hate about this NEW HIP-HOP FANS yall too FANBOY like I'm a Royce fan but he getting smoked right now and I respect lyricists. Dude this is skill, IRON SHARPENS IRON Royce arrogance started this.
🔥🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯
mickey is def my favorite one to speak up so far. the way he did that track was insane af and im def hyped to see how far this beef really goes and hopefully it just stays to the tracks in the end.
Checking boxes, Check inboxes, Check in boxes, Czech in boxes, this man Mickey knows the SCIENCE!!!
They accused Royce of starting the beef over some project he had. It's now clear that These guys baited Royce to push their stuff. They're even trying to draw out Eminem for extra exposure.
Yea
One thing I love about Jay-Z is he would entertain those he saw beneath him. I pray Em don’t get involved. I hated when he responded to MGK
@@chriso1523 well mgk became irrelevant he doesnt even rap no more
@@fictionalcharactermov7471 thats Why he just promotet his new upcoming rap Album, won Awards and got from Rap Devil 4M sub to now with 7M+ sub sure dude he did everything wrong. 👍🏻
@@christophermhudson09 nah
Ye this was better than both royce's and lupe's to me. He directed it at royce but he bar'd the fuck outta this. That dimension bar i didnt even catch
Yes, you're damn correct now. While Lu didn't waste time with them lyrical miracle acrobatics and went straight for the Royce's neck, Mickey did both. He outdid them both, but I really want to see what Lu will do when he takes his time to write. Let's see, I'm hoping for a Em, Rocye and Ortiz or sum other against Lu, Mickey and Lux/Day/Soul.
@@burdman1333 I agree with ya, but tbf Mickey did some rap rap shit on this it wasn't just simple bars attacking royce
If you didn’t catch that dimension bar, you probably didn’t understand Lupe.
@@cperkins5050 Ok Lupe stan lmao. Go work on your insecurities then come back with a respectable reply.
@@burdman1333 check Lupe's latest IG live Q&A. He said that he went from "who raps better" to a diss. He said that his intention wasn't to do that lyrical, miracle, spiritual shit when Royce dropped his track. Check it up, it's Lupe describing this beef, literally.
But Lupe did credit Eminem on his Steve jobs track.
Did he? I think I missed that line, what did he say?
@@BryanKalloo "I don't blame you, that n**** is one of my favorites"
@@ImInYourBrains exacty
that was Mickey
Eminem will battle against Andre 3000
Ina future before 2020 they talk about it and eminem posted about it .. To be ready..
He said he will outrap Eminem all day
Royce is under fire because they are trying to get an angle in on Slim, Crook and the rest of the industry rappers. Los and Daylyt have already said that this needs to happen for the Hiphop game. I agree. They keep dancing around Em and Crooks name without being too disrespectful. It’s bait and I love it.
Completely agree. But they don't want the smoke with Crook and Em,although i fucks with Mickey hard. Btw,my opinion,the only few who could challenge Em are Lux,Daylyt and maybe Lupe.
@@biajdzismols1204 Daylyt and Lu would wash Em
@@JT-bb2vj i just hope Em put them on his radar and drop that "before you step in the ring you have to be a diamond" isht and keep it hiphop. And you can't just say they can wash Em like that lol. You have to be a hypocrite to say that. At the back of your head you know they can't. But they can box with him for sure.
@@JT-bb2vj you buggin,go watch Murda Mook on Math Hoffa show,see what he says about Em
@@JT-bb2vj disstracks are pen games my guy if em goes second then its a rap its not freestyle
I don’t want Em to jump in because he never got disrespected.
Royce is just shooting his mouth around because he thinks no one will respond in fear of Em.
He either stand up for himself or just fade out into the shadows where he should.
Wouldn't even make any sense for Em to be in diss
I hope literally everyone gets involved. This is rap beef at it's finest. Doesn't matter if it's directly about you or not, that's not how rap beef works.
Royce never in a million years thinks he needs help. Royce knows what his pen can do
So it’s ok for Mickey to jump in to steal the limelight on the back of somebody else’s situation, but Royce has to handle them and anybody else that does the same, by himself? Behave. If this ain’t 1v1 then make it open invitation for both sides
@@appalachian_restorations229 bro, I’m reading these responses asking for Em to come in and I’m confused. Because I’m a HUGE Eminem fan, but Royce got bars. If he is asking for Em, or Crooked or whatever it’s because he’s trying to save hip hop
Dope reaction stevie! Ya'll mark my words, Eminem will not get into this beef in a million years. It'd be so dumb. All the disses mocked royce for being Em's sidekick, and now Royce gonna turn to the actual Goat for help?? How weak and lame that will make him look. Crook be dope tho. He's a killer. But Em WOULD NEVER GET INVOLVED. Mark my words. 💯💯💯💯
u were right 👏👏💯💯
After Royce disrespected Mickey on ig, mickey asked Royce if he should release a track and Royce said go on show me what you got.
Royce put a gun in a sharp shooter's hand and told him to shoot. What was he supposed to do 😂😂😂😂
For all of you saying "I hope Em jumps in" just know y'all will prove Lupe's point that he needs Em to be hot or even win in a Diss Track Battle. Royce barely hit at Lupe in Round 1 so Lupe has Round 1 EASILY. I love Royce but he needs to go at the neck in these diss tracks like he used to back in the day. Mans dissed all of D12 so where is that energy now? Come on Royce get in the booth and GO AT NECKS! 👌🏼💯
That is exactly it, lupe and especially micky, locked em and slaughterhouse out, they already said he needs them so the minute any of them stepped in royce lost. Em, crook and joell could have jumped in and royce still would have lost. Royce was playing chess, lupe and especially mickey were playing chess.
Re watching alot of this with the slaughterhouse crap going on, I'm thinking royce feels a certain way cause crook and joell didn't jump in.
But royce made the statement he could take anyone,others jumping in wouldnt have proved royce words, but it would have proved mickey facts words.
I don’t even care, this diss is not even close better than any diss Eminem has ever made
@@id1550 FACTS! Specially 90s Em disses 👌🏻🔥💯
Anyone else re- listening to this on 3-7-22 because they are trying to remember how much of a scared ass Royce was being then , considering he is doing it again with Instagram live shit instead of getting in the booth. Referring to all this Slaughterhouse beef with Crook, Ortiz. Budden, Royce.
Not sure if Mickey is into Naruto but that "Really under the weather, PAIN!!" Part jumped at me, lol. I know he's multilayered so just MAYBE that reference was included, lol
He was referencing the fact that RJ Pain was originally known as Reign Man back in the day.
Bruh...this might be a lyrical Cival War.⚔
Mickey went fuckin crazy!! Best diss out of the 3, royce got 24 hours to respond
Ayo stevie, as soon as this shit dropped i had my eyes on the notifications waiting for you to drop the Mickey reaction !
Why 24 hours? Mickey took 4 days to respond.
"Playing Big will put you in a box, that was Gravy's plight" this is elite 👌🏾
You'll get crook millenniums before you get Em. You want Em to come out and play? You know what you gotta say......
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Eminem beefs Women , Pop Artistes , Blackballed rappers & Mumble rappers
He can't beef with real emcees relevant in the rap game currently
@@roynewton2709 if stay say hailey's name in a disrespectful way ... he will eat them at lunch and he will drop another 3 albums till the end of the year
@@roynewton2709
Name one legit lyricist that put out a diss track on Em and Em didn’t respond. Unless you think Nick Cannon got bars. Em respects lyricism and gives props to the ones that came before hiim, but if any of them would come at him, he would turn them into meatloaf.
@@marcindebski6166 Em loves going at women .. He didn't want no smoke with better lyricists
"I told him 'prove you do what I do', he gave me lampshade (Lambda diss track), I said, 'No.' I gave the bitch room and then the man caved" Jesus
Bruuuuuh that Rolls Royce Deadpool scheme was fire🔥🔥🔥
And idk if Stevie knows his name is Ryan, he didn't say anything to add to the entendre.
He did say it. He caught it
He didn’t mention the Montgomery bar cuz Royce’s name is Ryan Montgomery. But Stevie mentioned the Ryan Reynolds bar.
Eminem won't jump in this shit cuz he's diplomatic. Besides, if he does it'd be bad for Royce's dignity
Eminem beef Women
@@roynewton2709 I'ma say it again. He beefs who ever is left after MCs run away from the smoke.
Also... what the fuck does having a vagina have to do with rap? These people aren't boxing in a ring. Rapping is about brain power, not actual bodies.
@@roynewton2709 and he obviously beefed with your mama , that's why you're so mad and commenting this bs everywhere lol.
@@roynewton2709 you say that like women are below men or something
Em has nothing to do with this, calling someone "Eminem's sidekick" isn't a diss towards Em... Lupe didn't even mention his name to avoid fans reaching lol
As for a battle rap- rap beef track, Mickey put a checkmate on Royce. He called out Royce on everything he could possibly respond with. That is the core of a successful battle rapper. Think about what your opponent is gonna say and call him out on it before he says it. Royce has to respond solo cause they said he would be a punk to bring anyone from slaughterhouse, which you know Royce said he got rap friends too!!! So fire!!!
holding your chin like francois rodin, look what i'm sculpting is CRAZY
Broooooo 🔥🔥🔥🔥 rap beef that's worth it again!!! I love this. Shits to dope. Lupes verse was amazing and this put the headstone on the coffin.
A volcano erupted, and the response would be legendary, only time will tell.
He keeps bringing Eminem into this, I hope Eminem response oh, I noticed that not pulling down Eminem but they're putting his best friend down whose side you think Eminem is going to be on, and again I will say this they are taking the focus off of the original tropic that Lupe going so hard for EODUBS, thats how this whole thing came about, u guys are tryin to make u mad, and its working!
I would say Mickey 2 just cuz I've never heard of them and he just literally depicted everything Roy said but like I said I don't know if you want to wake up that sleeping giant because just because you know what happens when Eminem get mad, and you don't want that 10in pad well he's thinking about you LMFAO so, this could be another Benzino Ja Rule and all those guys against Eminem Roy's all of slaughterhouse including button and maybe we'll get Yelawolf trick trick and forget about if we get Crooked I OMG I would love to see this rap battle but it looks like Lupe and Mickey has learned from the best Eminem. Mia but I just wanted to be a beef nothing more but the way Mickey was just talkin IDK it's a fine time. Yes it is LOL I love this OMG(OH MY GOATS). Mia
@@miaclaudio5428 look at ja rule, he was beefing with 50 cent and em bodied that man
@@miaclaudio5428 I agree that's why I typed my first comment. If Eminem thinks a Response is necessary only time will tell, I am looking forward to the future.
Em hasn’t responded to a real rapper in years..he should’ve shot at Sada baby when he was running his mouth about him but nothing but crickets
Em is too much of a Giant for this… Kid Vicious might step in or Crooked might if somebody else jumps in
but Royce did challenge all of them solo so it’s time for him to prove a point
It is time to see if he can do what Em did with Kamikaze. Em really shut up a bunch of people. Royce may need an album to do this
Stop that mickey is dangerous the powers of B black ball him because he's too nice
@@CrazeeAdam it’s crazy how EVERYBODY came outside for K Dot’s Control verse.. but nobody has really responded to Rap GOD or Kamikaze… it definitely shows the respect his peers have for him
@@ayereebegbare1157 he’s nice but he’s definitely not being blackballed … he’s been connected for over a decade
@@NextMJ2 nobody want to fuck with him
As much as em has been out there wanting smoke, the least he can do is the intro to a Royce response to see if they come back at him.. Mickey definitely deserves a response after that performance 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Missed the. MARVEL part
So you might have missed the other meaning on the tetris columns double. Columns was a game on Sega Genesis that was a Tetris competitor. A good game, but different. Another meaning that he dropped in there. Old school reference.
Man I loved that game
@@joeperry3191 me too
That was one of the 1st games I had on Sega. Was looking to see if anyone else caught that.
@@mitchellmcglamry2074 yeah, Some SGs came with a 6 game cartridge, and Columns was on some of them.
*No if Royce gets Eminem to help him on a Diss track I think Lupe wins because he called Royce EM’s sidekick so if that happens it proves Lupe was right.*
*So I hope Royce gets some other rappers on his side without Em’s help on this one.*
Exactly 💯
I'd call Kendrick
Y'all think Elzhi gon jump in?
Lol nah fam I doubt Em Gon jump in but Lupe was proofing an L by saying that line cz he still bitter he didn't get in on Slaughterhouse, but at the end of the day it ain't Royce's fault the he friends with an elite rapper.😹😹😹 Royce and crook will still wash the two and send that the invoice for reviving their career😹😹
this best diss track since killshot.. maybe even better. even used the title and picture kinda like em did. its a rolls royce on fire. and a wraith is a rolls
Mickey was saying Royce had a better verse than fab on a song but lost to mistah fab in a real battle
you can feel the force behind these bars
Bruh 17:05 dude said "all them dumb shots when I'm un bak with this defense" bruh 🔥 🔥 🔥 un bak aka the muy Thai movie with Tony Jaa where dude was unbeatable and the toughest around with his muy Thai
Royce has to respond, maybe not to Lupe, but for mickey its a must !
Nope, mickey don't check all the boxes
Came back to listen to this after all the slaughterhouse fall out and what can I say.... this Diss track should be studied in schools!! This is Ivy League lyricism 🔥
Facts this is incredibly scary if you Royce u just can’t follow this up with anything
I'm sure Lupe will put it in his courses 🤣🤣🤣
Mickey’s diss lyrically was miles ahead of Lupe’s. Objectively speaking it’s one of the illest disses ever laid to wax from a skill perspective! Mickey painted a masterpiece! This is coming from a huge Royce fan also. Mickey been an👽on his A game (Peep Mickey Mause project, some top features, top freestyles, etc)
Stevie we have the exact same feeling. Mickey took the best of Lupe directness and Royce’s lyricism/pen and made a straight classic diss!
I want lyrical warfare from all the 👽MCs!
The "Y-3 all the time, never a check in boxes" line is a reference to Yoji Yamamoto's shoe brand Y-3 I think. Mickey wears that stuff religiously. He's saying he's not out with a Nike shoe box ever. Kinda light but a fire way to start the whole scheme.
The marvel multiverse dimension line references to the MCU movie Spider Man - Into The Spider-Verse. The movie centres around different versions of Spider-Man from different dimensions. ‘Marvel at your multiverse till you die-mentioning that’
Royce is praised for his ability to write multi syllable rhyme schemes in his verses
It's not specific to Into The Spider-Verse. But yeah. 🔥
@@t0talimm0rtalz Indeed.
If Royce really angry and comes with that Malcolm X shit while also bringing in the way more lyrical Royce it's over.
Nah, Lu went at Royce less than half his capabilities.
I don't think Royce is taking this seriously.
@@taianders2256 faaacts🔥
Royce isn’t capable. He’s a gimmick rapper like Lupe said.
@@Gearyco you sound crazy you need to listen to Dead Presidents heads, those jab along killed the outsiderz, Malcom X and Who got bodies are diss classic songs. Royce made a song and took a few jabs, if he did a full diss track i think we will se some different reactions from fans. But it is still alot of fans that want him to fail due to his connection to EM.
“Jay-z take you off renegade” is a parity to the nas diss to Jay Z. “Eminem killed you on your own shit”
Wtf you talking about? Royce was on the original Renegade track before Em gave it to Jay.
@@garry3465 He didnt say any different. Learn to read.
@@oROBBIEo lols
This doesn't really make any sense...like none of it.. neither the OG comment or the replies lmao
@@TwistedSisler Welcome to the Internet
“Marvel multiverse dimensioning that” marvel at your multi verses your gonna die mentioning that?🤔am i reaching or does that make sense? Royce is marvel at his verses so he’s gonna die mentioning that?
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Marvel bars is something you gotta deal with 🔥
Something like "if u keep saying u the best all the time while around other killers, that's all you'll do when u get bodied". Which is kinda what royce did actually. A large portion of "silence of the lambda" was just royce flexing how nice he was. But that's my interpretation ofc
@@okthensean6727 that's also true lmao
His referring to the song Summer on Lock featuring Jadakiss and Fabolous which was on Book of Ryan, but then referring to the battle back in 2000s Royce V Mistah Fab
This was 🔥. It brings me back to the 90s when rapper's actually had to be nice on the 🎤. I hope it doesn't turn ugly but makes people hungry to evolve so rap can go back to the way it use to be.
The cover art a rolls Royce on fire 🔥👌
And Eminem don't get involved in other ppls beef. Even when royce was beefing with D12. He helped with Ja and zino coz they attacked him. Budden too.
Mickey's fire and he's a modern battle rapper which definitely gives him an advantage when it comes to structuring punchlines and using angles, to me. A lot of these "industry" rappers have no experience in that department and the ones that used to do it did it back when battle rap was totally different than it is now. Check out Mickey Factz vs DNA. Crazy battle.
All True MC'S ARE BATTLE RAPPERS
@@stevebell5970 battle rap now is completely different than going from hood to hood battling on the corner with pre-written material that they would use over and over again just trying to get a name. King Los has had the best return on the battle rap stage as an industry artist the rest failed miserably. Canibus, Joe Budden, Jae Millz just to name a few. Cassidy was trash his first few battles back but now that he has a few under his belt he's starting to adapt to the times.
@@nismojukerich2994 Canibus VS Dizaster was amongst the saddest rap shit I have ever seen.
@@DarkThagan How bout it! Canibus really disappointed with having to pull out the notepad smh
You slept on that Sega line he did earlier too 🔥🔥🔥🔥
5:09 "you know how i rolls royce"
Wraith is a type of Rolls-ROYCE
Lol daylyt was talking about going at ransom but not sure if in a old interview if he was complementing him or disrespecting him. Lol daylyt trying to find a reason to go in. He gave Micky his flowers for this diss.
Right
Royce basically said Mural wasn’t all that impressive then dropped a track over the beat, and it wasn’t nearly as good as the original track. I think that’s the reference
Yall putting too much Disrespect on Royce name.🤣🤣🤣
The ONLY way Royce can get some of his shine back at this point is if he comes with that energy that he put into that "Malcolm X" diss track against D12.
@@jamesgibson3716 exactly!!! Royce don't need nobody's help.
I'm here for THIS
Wtf that Deadpool line is crazy
3 problems with this beef:
I: paying homages in district, mgk mistake.
II: repeating Lupe points in very I'll way, but if you pay attention he repeating a couple of points.
III: too much Eminem's references.
4th: I really love if this beef turns to a hip-hop massacre..
My loved bars, die-mention and band-aid these were cold and slick
@@yhhkj529 definitely agree with you, and mickey shit is layered to the foolish
Mickey and Lupe tiptoing around Eminems name because real lyricists know whats up
to say this about Em and then to not respect Royce is insane to me. When Royce is probably one of the people Em respect most as a rapper
Or…. They’re tiptoeing around his name to get a reaction from him. Beefing with Em, lose or win, is a plus for them. It’s also not his beef so going at him directly would make 0 sense.
They are simple responding to Royce who started this whole shit
They know better
Na, it has nothing to do with Em, so they just referencing him without any jabs. They cant help but do that with Royce
Lupe, Daylyt, Mickey vs EM, Crooked, Royce lets go!
I’m on Royce side all day
@@iroc9duece Lu side all day
Lol all three of them would get wrecked by EM alone. If Shady writes it’s over…
Yes Royce All Day
Second team ain't fair,can't nobody beat them.
HERE FOR THE EFFIN BARS!!!!!! LETS GO!!!!!
"I told him 'Prove you do what I do,' he gave me lampshade
And said no, I gave the bitch room, and then the man cave" also to note "lapmshade, room, and man cave" are all a play on rooms words. Aperantly Royce game Mikey lapmshade and Mikey wasn't having it so Mikey gave Royce a room but ended up in a mancave.