“Royce da 5 live”. Someone said that on a Mickey Factz live 👽. I love Royce to death, one of my GOAT MCs, but Mickey objectively dropped a lyrical masterpiece on Royce and Royce is talking in circles while trolling. Royce and everyone objective deep down knows Mickey (who is an👽MC also)dropped a lyrical masterpiece on Royce.
Can't tell you the respect I have for Stevie for saying this is what it is... Takes an intelligent mind to maintain skepticism, and to honestly take the hit to hype that honesty is going to give you. Stevie could hype this like it's real and get more views but he's being real.
It seems that Royce underestimated them both and now he's a little fidgety about this not going the way he thought it would. Bottom line Royce is butt hurt and afraid that he can't win
Exactly. He didn't actually realize the level of emcees he was up against. He might be able to beat RJ and Ransom but Lu and Mickey are a whole different stratosphere.
That whole misunderstanding between him and Yela got squashed, they good now; but yeah Royce is definitely looking bad when it comes to saying things that are just a contradiction of his actions.
I love the energy Royce Stans have it’s like that kid still waiting on the porch for their dad to come back from getting smokes for the third week in a row or like people who believe either Trump or Biden has a “heart” or a non dementia ridden mind.
I can't keep up with all this, but seems like Royce thought it was a friendly sparring match, but people came in the ring really trying to knock his head off.
He said that he would shoot Mickey's son, in the disstrack "Silence of the Lambda". It wasn't friendly at all, it's normal that Mickey responded as he did
@@zkiron7932 Royce said that line wasn’t for Mickey but since Mickey seemed anxious to be apart of the beef, Royce said Mickey could take it as if the line was meant for him.
why you say that? you gotta look at the popularity and scope of things... who do you think is more busy in their day to day lives? Royce? or Mickey? the time that it takes you to respond to something is negligible because it might not even hit your radar for a while.
Lu did an IG live talking about why he snapped the way he did. Lu took that “shoot your son while holding sunchips” line SUPER personal cuz of some stuff that’s happened in Chicago. Basically, saying he don’t fuck with bars talking about killing kids. Lu basically said “I want you to feel like shit, I wanted you to feel this typa way”
Did y’all Not hear Royce say Mickey is the one who assumed that line was aimed towards him so there for Royce told him if he feels like that then so be it…god man just listen to the man
I hear you @@JarvisMusic4813 but to me, that would be beside Lupe's point. I'm okay with it if it weren't for Lu's reasoning. It's why he's talking about that EOW. Avoiding any lines that threaten people in any way hyperbole or whatever. They apparently talked about that issue in the past and for Royce to bring it up again, its all a lack of respect. Period. If we were "friends" and we've had heated discussions about shit you find touchy, and I haul off and do/say it anyway, I'm 100% deliberately disrespecting your wishes. I'm in the wrong. Period. Touching on your point tho, who heard that line and didn't think it wasn't directed towards Lupe?
@@sihlesifundo6721 I agree to that, but still the fact remains, they talked about the lines. Lu felt like his lines were crossed after having discussions. So apparently it if line step habitually (knowingly or nah), you get the Lu-kang bicycle kick lu-cross the screen. 😂
Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face. Royce doesn't like it when he knows there are better mcs than him. He's insecure. Even Eminem knows he lost to MC juice at scribble and says it on camera. Royce is dope but I don't think he can fuck with Lupe but I never really knew about Mickey Facts lyricism.
Em and Royce discussing this would be hilarious to hear because there is no way Em wouldn’t know Lupe would do this to Royce if Royce dissed him. I refuse to believe Lupe doesn’t know Em’s work or that Em doesn’t know Lupe’s work, and since they know each other’s work they must know they both say if you go on wax with a diss I take your head. Royce must not listen to Lupe’s music or he’s skimming it.
Royce considers himself an Alpha dog among the pack of rappers....🙄 Mickey has challenged Royce's position,and if Royce is truly the Alpha,then he has to take Mickey's head off!!!🤨 It's just that simple...😒 It's not about feelings,or negative energy, it's can you defend your Elite title against challengers!!!💯
@@kennymccormick2370 Agreed, I think Royce believes he's at Em's level,where he's too high above to have to respond, but truthfully Royce is nowhere near that level.....🤨
Mickey Facts killed that shit.. Royce , em none of them are use to someone with skills to challenge them. If Royce doesnt response it's cause he don't want no smoke..
@@thatdudesme2 I agree with Royce wanting no smoke even though he kind of asked for it, But Em would body anyone, and yes Em hasn’t found someone with skills to challenge him, because he just that good. I’m not trying to dick ride Em, but he has killed all who started beef with him. Royce on the other hand still needs to prove his worth if he ever wants to be a Goat like Em, Jay-Z, Tupac, etc.
I love Royce but he talk like he Em or Pac which he is nowhere near, he asked for the smoke and now moaning about it, Em would have loved someone with Mickey’s ability to go at him, he called out Nas and Jay on the ‘monkey see monkey do’ track, because he wants that smoke from the Best of the best
Royce can feel however he feels but I still don't understand why he still hasn't clearly responded on wax just to end everything. Instead he keep talking and talking and talking.
The Royce Em Stans and Haters believe in is mythological they both want him to be better than he is, but for opposite reasons. The Stans think anyone who can rap with Em is a god and the haters like to argue that since Royce can keep up with Em technically doing violent free form and he says vaguely “woke” (for Royce in reality he stands for nothing other than the Royce himself) shit sometimes he is better than Em. But the basic answer is people who don’t know much about Hip Hop think Royce is better than he is by about double.
@@etotheipi42 No one can deny Royce is a great MC but you're right, I think people might be giving him more credit than he deserves. My main point is, how is your response to that nuclear bomb of a track by Mickie Factz an IG Live? Bro, come on, you done lost right there lmao
@@MattBlackstone Mickey gains the respect on his rap pen and Royce’s rap pen remains intact. The main damage done to Royce is people figuring out he is not a student of the game or he would have known not to go at Lupe at all just out of respect. Lupe has the level of respect Royce originally thought he had if not more. “You won't find me in the mainstream if you look You gotta look up 'pioneer' in them history books Universal doesn't give me hooks Nobody writes for KRS, you can read my books Man, I be's my looks No makeup here I don't hang around at the top It's too fake up there Forget being in the front I'd rather sit in the rear And chill with my real people way down here And oh yeah, I'd rather have a hundred true heads by me Than one million fake fanatics standing behind me Try me, I keep it raw and grimy In front of the local Shop 'n Go Spitting flows is where you'll find me In the club They have to look Cause the crowd be jumpin' up from my classic hooks Man, I'm not the crook type I'm more the book type I exist so you can see what a master looks like” - Krs One (Who is known as Tha Teacha for good reason) on the track “No Requests” with the beat by Datsik who is for sure not old school boom bap. The title of the song “No Requests” is about how the people with the most respect in hip hop are the DJs because they read rooms and keep parties jumping and they are supposed to be experts on music across genres and time periods. MCs are respected for their rhyme skill but that is a knit picky detail compared to how they move in the status game of being an MC and especially by what they stand for and if they are real.
.... and also Stevie I think you are right... Royce out there thinkin' he too big for people to come at him because of his crew. He hates having to lean on Em yet he depends on Em.... imo
I mean he can’t punch back on Lupe who is an Elite MC so he is smart enough to know all rappers have pen cannons so he doesn’t drop ammo so like literally Lupe doesn’t have stuff you can diss him about. (Like Royce saying Lupe likes white people more than black people is retarded Lupe is on some like Malcolm X vibes, he’s not against guns just shooting fellow black people with them) and Mickey wants Royce to respond because it would be free publicity.
To put things in perspective, Ja Rule said one line about Haley (Em daughter), and Eminem continuously through dirt on top of them for about 20 years. That being said, that line Royce said about the SunChips was way out of bounds... if someone came to me talking about they're gonna shoot my son or daughter, we fighting frfr.
Lupe don't have a son. That was just a gun bar. It got took way out of context. Lu didn't like that lu like white people more than doing ish for black people bar
Royce a lil too sensitive. Even when him, Guru, & Murda Mook was on IG live & Lupe jumped on the live, he got sensitive n called him a bitch 🙄😑 Lu was clearly playing n tryna sell this battle by being energetic & aggressive. Now he feel attacked. Huh?? Lol Royce shoulda let his boundaries be known before initiating any type of battle of bars
@UDONTWANT THESMOKE - How so? Kamarty's talkin about the subject matter at hand, per the whole point of this video... While I don't necessarily agree with Kamarty, I think it's kinda weird that you think it's kinda weird that giving an opinion on this whole debacle, is "weird shit."
Royce is being sarcastic and that means he’s already checked out emotionally. He sending a mixed message. You wanna be gauging energy but sarcasms comes from a place of checking out emotionally. Heartless. That’s what the difference in energy is Royce doesn’t care. But he cares about where the energy comes from.
I love the energy Royce Stans have it’s like that kid still waiting on the porch for their dad to come back from getting smokes for the third week in a row or like people who believe either Trump or Biden has a “heart” or a non dementia ridden mind.
@@alecvip7562 Royce’s problem was he was on some rap for rap’s sake shit and Mickey and Lupe were on some Hip Hop is something you live and rap is something you do shit. Royce was living rap which is ass backwards.
So we just gonna act like Royce didn’t attack Lord Jamar multiple times before finally making peace? Royce didn’t jump on Mouse for talking shit about Em? Royce didn’t resolve the beef between Em and Nick Cannon? Royce didn’t check Joe for talking shit about Revival? You guys are fucking buggin. Royce always defended him. He was joking when he brought up Em but you all are just so fucking dense.
Crooked I just explained everything, we probably not getting a response from Royce. Crook was like he wanted him to respond too , and felt he should need help , but he also know Royce focusing on Mental health awareness and beef won't look good right now. He also saying Royce silence of lambda suppose to be 12 min, and was not supposed to be a diss record. Hopefully we finally get a Slaughterhouse album 🙏
The MC to Survive slaughterhouse without looking like a moron about the game is Joell after this, both Budden and Crook showed they aren’t smart enough about the game to know Lupe would kill Royce and that Royce dissing Lupe on wax by itself is enough to deserve being put death on wax in response. I mean Royce is obviously not a reality based rapper or someone telling his fans the truth or he would have known and communicated from the start that from his pen Lupe is untouchable he just doesn’t have the skillz to go at him. It’s not that he got killed that hurt him its that he wasn’t smart enough to know he would get killed doing what he was doing that hurts his reputation. We all knew Lupe’s pen is basically incomparably potent to Royce’s pen.
18:06 "Partly playing, Partly sarcastic, Party serious" Has to be the most confusing point of view ever 😂😂😂 I wasn't gonna give this interview my time.
I wonder how much is really aboutt the “energy” rather than-self- knowledge and clarity. Maybe the idea of energy is sidetracking some from facing facts. Facts go overlooked
@@Ibonic I didn’t even know who Mickey factz was until that diss track Hell I didn’t even start listening to Lupe Fiasco‘s music until HIS diss track against Royce lol
Am I the only one starting to question Royce's character? I can't respect the way he's moving right now. No doubt he's a top tier lyricist, he's been one of the most consistent artists of the last decade. However, the way he speaking on things rather than putting it on wax, it's making me look at him differently. Also, he needs to stop with the tough guy talk. The more he does that, the more it sounds like he's trying to avoid getting into a rap battle.
you clearly dont read comments if you think you are the only one.. why did you even ask that question? and why did i even respond to you knowing that you dont read comments?
watch his stream with Mickey 2 days ago, he said he wanted to know if mickey and lupe were going in with ill intent or not, I think it's fair but it'll damage his reputation if he keeps doing this and not really rap .
I like Lupe and Royce and to be honest i only heard a few songs from Mickey. Royce made a great technical song its a high skill level but not good for a diss. We all expect Royce to diss Lupe and Mickey back but there is alot of pressure now on Royce because if he doesn't fire back 2 times harder he is fucked. Now its kinda too late for Royce after all the talking and acting scared. Its already a lose lose situation.
@@Feyenoord010Rotterdam yeah fr it's too late now. I like Royce but he is acting like a bitch right now. Don't start something if you can't back it up in the studio.
@@xsmockjrx yea, but in Royce's defense, arcording to the live with Mickey after the "Wraith", he said to Mickey that he feel like Mickey and Lupe is comming at him with "bad energy" and more to damage his name instead of trying to see who's better lyricaly and Royce doesn't have that energy towards them. Well, I think I understand Royce but how he handle it with bitterness and anger on the Live with Lupe made him look bad, even if Royce meant it or not he made Mickey felt disrespected and now he need to know if Mickey was comming at Royce with the same energy he thought Royce was giving him. well Mickey said no, he doesn't meant to disrespected Royce but he said he did that cause he felt like Royce disrespected him first, which made them both hypocritical if Royce's being hypocritical about him "checking boxes" moment with Mickey. IMO: Royce felt cheated, Mickey felt disrespected, both claim they don't want to go in on each other personal sht but Royce felt like they already did on those songs and don't know if he should respond to them with "beef energy" or "competitive energy" . all the thing on the LIVE shit just makes everything so uncomfortable it's hurting Royce's image , relationship, pride , they should've discuss about this in private or just rap and it'll be at round 4 by this time already..... the big L is on US.
To be fair, the screen shot that was sent to them, was portrayed as " crooks " next, it was a dick move to send that out from Stevies patreon, but it was presented on the patreon as that exact thing so he didn't really take it out of context bc that was all that was shown so
Nope. He showed it on Patreon bc he trusted us. You are right that is was a dick move. What is the point of being a Patreon if we aren't getting exclusive content?
@@-Manda_SKnight_BeastMoD exactly , its kind of just known if you pay to see his content then maybe he is gonna post stuff just for that. Im just sayin it was posted to the patreon as kind of " crook is next" more or less takin shit and was posted to the youtube site with diff context
@@jadenking4268 I dunno. I super respect you and your opinion. Mayhap I'm not understanding you fully, as well - I have a hard time putting things together a lot - so I apologize if I have taken anything the wrong way. I honestly don't know a lot about what is fair game and whatnot online. What I was raised to know is that there are two things that a person has: their trust and their word. Once either or both of those are broken, they cannot be fixed. Well, it takes a very long time to fix them, at least. He shared that story with us - that screenshot. That was not our story to tell (or show). I am an old school country raised girl, tho. So when I said that I am probably not catching everything you have said, please keep that in mind💜
There's beef between Lupe and Royce. Lupe said he won't be doing the podcast with Royce anymore. He said Royce was out of pocket before the diss tracks and stuff.
Yeah... Apparently according to Royce, Lupe took things he said sarcastically to heart and that's why. Frfr, Royce doesn't get a pass... If he doesn't jump back in the booth after being obliterated by Mickey, he don't have a leg to stand on talkin about he's "top tier", and I'm from Detroit. 🤷🏻
@@devotheambivert9875 after all this "one of the top tier MC" discussion, if Royce don't step in that booth, the only time we'll mention Royce and MC is if home boy goes into a McDonald's. 😂
Royce looking like he trying to gather ghost writers to negate everything Mickey said why is it taking him so long . Did he not respond to Lupe quick ?
Honestly, although I am a fan of Royce (especially his past few albums), I really want him to respond so that hopefully Lupe drops SLR 4. It's been years since the last real SLR.
Another thing to consider is that Lupe responded to Kendrick’s control verse and Kendrick ducked him because it would have obviously been a bad idea for him to respond career wise and Royce acted like he was too big and mature to need to respond 🔥🤣 So Lupe was like hey Youngin you want this elder smoke for real? And Royce was like “I’ve got a lot of clout right now let me act like an OG for a sec” 💀💀💀💀
More like months from now when he would finally come out of the dark with a diss track. I think part of the problem is that Royce can't come up with something good enough that quickly and they are pulling Royce into all these live meetings and shit and not giving him that kind of time so he's in an impossible position now and he knows it. If he disappeared now to write, he would be seen as weak and they would consider it already a loss. However, if he doesn't and continues just talking on these lives, he's still going to be considered weak because he's just talking and not rapping, and if he does quickly put something out and not take the time he needs, then he will fall short of what Mickey did and how fast he did it and would lose that way too. I think Royce is in his feelings because he knows he already lost. They played him from all angles.
@@TwistedSisler @TwistedSisler yeah I agree with the angles with Royce, totally!!! Between rock and hard place whichever approach he takes... With Em, he may take that time,.. But guess he knows he's definitely not going to get BODIED!!.. No suprise number of people's rap career he's buried... No loss really.. There's rap then theres EM rap as we know!!!!
Sun chips line..... "Put a hole in ya (as in you) son". I just don't think the language barrier between the way people talk and how it's perceived is true.
I Really hope royce is just trolling, but we'll see. If he is seriously up in his feeling about this, I won't know how to take Royce seriously ever again
👉Royce : "I can’t live without Doggystyle. I’ll take that over any Em music. It’s all subjective” 👉Royce's friends: "Snoop, Jamar, Charlamagne, Budden, Cannon and His Squad & Maybe Suge Knight" 👉Royce 29th July: "You know what I would be doing right now if somebody pulled this on one of my loved ones? I would have been rapped. I'm disappointed in Marshall"
@Lewis Morten Yea I am conflicted lately on Royce too...since he started making moves on social media he seem to bring a lot of arrogance! Not only the Snoop line but he also posted a pic with Nick when Nick was going after Em!👀
@@toni-ann5151 after he squashed their beef. The interview with Nick was after the Elvis Pussley. Royce been a peace maker behind the scenes. It was stans freaking out about the pic that caused them to announce the end of the beef
@@enigma429ad Good points and I hear ya, it just didn't sit right with me. He poked his head in the Snoop and Nick convo when the motives seemed 2fold...imo. I've respected him for years but lately he's rubbing me wrong.
Royce threw in the towel on a live with Ranson. He said something like they should walk away with whatever glory from the battle and stop basking in (feeling themselves) it.
I respect Royce's pen, but his character has always been questionable. He finally got ✔ for it, and it's put him off balance. Maybe he'll learn from it.
@@jenb8299 agreed! I feel like he thought he was too big for people to really come at him hard because of his crew...so here's your chance Royce - show them you up to it and prove once and for all you are more than Eminem's sidekick - stop complaining and get up swinging!!
@@toni-ann5151 Even if he drops a 💣, his character has been exposed. He's in a hard spot, but this mess is completely self-inflicted. At least go down swinging.
The interview wasn't solely for mgk though.. he always does interview everytime he drops an album.. it just happened to be Sway asked him about mgk beef
@stevieknight. I totally feel what royce was saying there, if you really listened to him. He said, like he displayed in his song, he makes it about battle rap and keeping it general showing skills, not personal. If niggaz wanna get personal then we got real beef and it's now on some street shit!
Mr. Knight you should know by now people take words out of context whenever it suits there needs they also lie by omission whenever it benefits them or there cause! Your doing stuff and moving how other people wish they were and taking steps hell if you walked on water people would say so you cant swim!! Do you love catching your videos and watching you level up because of your sincerity that's what its about!!!
I think Royce is trolling. I HOPE Royce is trolling. I have a feeling He will be dropping some unexpected fire here shortly. All you talking shit better hope not. Might be eating crow if he does.
@Nick-Gerrs Suck If by this time next week, he still ain’t dropped a response, I’m throwing in the towel. I have a hard time buying Royces ego will just let this shit go. Until then, I’m sitting back watching.
@Nick-Gerrs Suck I feel like people are a little over exited and blowing stuff out of proportion. Lupe & Mickey both put out decent diss tracks. Neither one is on a “OMG! That just ended the game!” level. They were good and did their respective thing, but not so good that there is no way back from them. That’s why I’m holding back my judgment for now. They were alright, not career ending. Pride hurting? Sure. Not a “finish him” blow though.
@Nick-Gerrs Suck I’m still hoping that’s not the case and Royce don’t go down like that, but there is a limit when trying to give someone the benefit of the doubt. I’m still holding out until this weekend. If he still ain’t responded by then, he will have taken an official L in my book.
That sunchip line, for me is the exact reason why Em doesn't want any part of this and won't be involved. He ain't about bringing people's kids into it.
And ppl wonder why Royce feels the way he do and why he says their energy is weird that nigga from Detroit rappers out there don't fake beef TF! That's why that nigga said they better check all the boxes
Em wont get involved even If he knows about the beef. But the thing is, can or willl royace respond with the diss that hard and it better be em/pac level disses. Otherwise he should just keep quiet and take L. Cause if he just rams like he did here on the interview that's just bad for everything he is in the game
Royce over here questioning Mickey and talking to him like he his father. Mickey over her apologizing and explaining himself like a son. This ain’t no beer or battle, this big bro barking on lil bro for standing up to him.💯
I’m a huge huge Royce fan, but I’m also objective and he’s been acting passive aggressive mixed with trolling/sarcasm/cryptic/hypocritical. Objectively Mickey had one of the illest diss records on wax ever lyrically!
Only way to respond to someone who smoked you 🤣 And legit i have been with Royce from Day1, somehow i had never even heard of this Mickey before this beef 🤦🏼♂️but SMOKED!!!!
@@williamclaridge7489 Peep his Mickey Mause concept album, Achievement deluxe album, numerous RUclips freestyles, his track “A-“ that Royce passive aggressively tried to clown but it’s ill, lots of dope features. He puts out too much content so some of it suffers from filler, but on his A game Mickey Factz been an elite 👽level MC since late 2000s!
Didn’t he say fuck Osiris anthem and the eow when lupe brought it up as a more objective place to really see who is the best? And then after dude dissed him he has a whole surprised pikachu face now. Brought up stuff that he knew would trigger lupe. Stuff that they already got hot over on the pod and they edited that stuff out. Then when lupe goes in on him he comes yet again with the surprised pikachu face. And then him and buddens were belittling Mickey and telling him to bring the smoke. After he does he wanna come with the surprise pikachu face again. Man smh Royce a professional victim.
i personally think royce never wanted them to have a beef, when lupe pressurised royce to prove his ability, he just agreed to showcase his lyrical ability in the song in response, but lupe and mickey coming at him with disses... so i think its completely his decision if he doesn't want to reply ... rest ...god knows lol
i mean battle rap has disses lol, friends or not your are supposed to be throwing the hardest shots, mickey didnt really go under the belt, he was showing him love too. royce got no excuses bc he been running his mouth for yearsss about how he can battle 90% of mc’s and even battle rappers in their own shit. he been starting fires and clear once the smoke comes.
I just think Royce just doesn't have anything personal and bad to say about Lu and mickey.. but they clearly do. The way i understand the situation.. Royce is perplexed at how Mickey can say the things he said about Royce on a song and then be like.. u r one of the dopest and i still love u. . but i don't think Royce can turn that switch on and off just like that.. Fans want him to just Rap..but the man is an recovering alcoholic, in therapy if he brings the "venom" it can affect his personal life on several different levals. idk i don't care if he raps or not.
The sun chip line was a hyperbole and the diss was directed at lupe. Lupe doesn't have kids first off. Mickey was questioning the line and royce told him he wasn't thinking of him when he wrote it but if he wanted it he could have it. He wasn't directing that at Mickeys son. He even did a podcast that had mickey on it and he explained it to him.
Royce acts like he said nothing personal or "disparaging". Like the line referring to Chilly. Like the line implying that Lupe doesnt care for black people. Like calling him a bitch. How're you upset about someone saying they'll bury you in a song, then talk about shooting sons to someone else? Man's literally painted a picture about leaving him dead and cold, like what? Royce understands rap culture enough to know that those lines aren't serious, he makes use of them himself. His energy was off from the get go and then he gets surprised when it comes back at him
Another thing to consider is that Lupe responded to Kendrick’s control verse and Kendrick ducked him because it would have obviously been a bad idea for him to respond career wise and Royce acted like he was too big and mature to need to respond 🔥🤣 So Lupe was like hey Youngin you want this elder smoke for real? And Royce was like “I’ve got a lot of clout right now let me act like an OG for a sec” 💀💀💀💀
Sounds like Royce dont wanna start Beef beef outside of rap. He sounds conflicted. He may have wanted it on rap only and took it personal when Mickey broke down his style.
No he's trying to act like it's more cuz he got destroyed twice and can't seem to except it. U don't tell a black man u care more for white people. Then saying u gonna shoot someone's son, Call lupe a bitch and u will fuck him up then say your the government spokesmen for the vaccine to fuck over black folks. Just one of those is enough to go hard at someone. He can't identify his own doings which happen to be the cause for Lupe and Mickey's responses. Hes in denial basically
He can't be worried about starting beef outside of rap when he's literally the only one talking about beef outside of rap. He's trying to intimidate people he considers nerds so they won't keep torching his salty ass in the booth.
Lupe is saying the exact same thing!!!!! He wants it on that eow. And that's a competition where the main rule is, you cant diss the other person... straight skills... they are trying to avoid another west v east ( Chicago v Detroit)
shit turned from friendly competition, to beef and then to plain drama. if royce disses back, it'll have to be extremely personal and wouldn't make shit any better at this point. damned if you do, damned if you don't
If they already tripping over the one line that Royce said i think they would be hurt by the level of disrespect Royce could dish out. Maybe it would be hard for Royce to match energy without crossing the line. Idk. Maybe that's what he means.
Even if he's not scared he's still acting like a bitch and that was before any diss songs dropped. Him acting like Lupe and Mickey started this is fucking ridiculous.
"this type of energy", "that type of energy" and when he was asked to answer in the booth he said "naaaah" like he is taking it to the streets!! what type of energy is he talking about? Royce's "arrogant energy" just got checked and he doesn't know how to handle it!!
@@kevinbarahona6756 nah, not because of that, he would handle it just fine lol. But for royce and the good of the beef, em would just inherit the beef and that would just make royce look weak and we all would forget why it started. Claim em would get bodied by lupe or factz is the joke of the day
In the early ig lives with Lupe, Royce was super disrespect to Lu pe and gave a big FU to all battle rapper and said they are trash. He wasnt friendly at all. Came off really bad. So this whole thing was brought on by Royce 100% . Regardless of anything , you can see he's afraid.
When Eminem said, "Revival didn't go viral Denaun and Royce tell me that I should take the high road Fuck that, I'm finna hit back 'Til I run out of gun powder and split the scene"
“Royce da 5 live”. Someone said that on a Mickey Factz live 👽. I love Royce to death, one of my GOAT MCs, but Mickey objectively dropped a lyrical masterpiece on Royce and Royce is talking in circles while trolling. Royce and everyone objective deep down knows Mickey (who is an👽MC also)dropped a lyrical masterpiece on Royce.
Can't tell you the respect I have for Stevie for saying this is what it is... Takes an intelligent mind to maintain skepticism, and to honestly take the hit to hype that honesty is going to give you. Stevie could hype this like it's real and get more views but he's being real.
It seems that Royce underestimated them both and now he's a little fidgety about this not going the way he thought it would. Bottom line Royce is butt hurt and afraid that he can't win
Exactly. He didn't actually realize the level of emcees he was up against. He might be able to beat RJ and Ransom but Lu and Mickey are a whole different stratosphere.
Perfectly said!
“I don’t talk about ppl that way”. Dude literally said Yelawolf would be found face down on the side of Kid Rock’s house in Overcomer.
he dont consider yelawolf a friend
@@kthing he did prior to calling him racist for something someone else did
@@kthing shit not anymore!! He did tho!
Faaaaacts
That whole misunderstanding between him and Yela got squashed, they good now; but yeah Royce is definitely looking bad when it comes to saying things that are just a contradiction of his actions.
Royce is so full of himself, it's hilarious.. He should put all that energy into track imo
He either needs to rap, or be the head of the neighborhood club or some shit... he's acting like he's Jesus. 😂
@@Ibonic lmfao I couldn't say it better fr 😂
I love the energy Royce Stans have it’s like that kid still waiting on the porch for their dad to come back from getting smokes for the third week in a row or like people who believe either Trump or Biden has a “heart” or a non dementia ridden mind.
I can't keep up with all this, but seems like Royce thought it was a friendly sparring match, but people came in the ring really trying to knock his head off.
true
He said that he would shoot Mickey's son, in the disstrack "Silence of the Lambda". It wasn't friendly at all, it's normal that Mickey responded as he did
then he should have left the sunchip line OUT! That said: come get me
@@zkiron7932 that was to lupe and lupe doesnt even have a son
@@zkiron7932 Royce said that line wasn’t for Mickey but since Mickey seemed anxious to be apart of the beef, Royce said Mickey could take it as if the line was meant for him.
Royce response is long overdue, don't expect one at this point
why you say that? you gotta look at the popularity and scope of things... who do you think is more busy in their day to day lives? Royce? or Mickey? the time that it takes you to respond to something is negligible because it might not even hit your radar for a while.
@@JohnW704 Definitely not Royce since all he does is get on IG
@@JohnW704 you are tripping dude!!! We live in the day of Internet!!! You think it ain't been hit his radar smh
@@SLIGHTTONE The man literally responding to it on every live, how could it not hit his radar 😂😂
@@JohnW704 being busy has nothing to do with it 😂😂😂 making excuses like him
Lu did an IG live talking about why he snapped the way he did. Lu took that “shoot your son while holding sunchips” line SUPER personal cuz of some stuff that’s happened in Chicago. Basically, saying he don’t fuck with bars talking about killing kids. Lu basically said “I want you to feel like shit, I wanted you to feel this typa way”
yup. After i heard that. I was no longer in this situation. There was a real reason why we all cringed at the sun chip line.
Did y’all
Not hear Royce say Mickey is the one who assumed that line was aimed towards him so there for Royce told him if he feels like that then so be it…god man just listen to the man
I hear you @@JarvisMusic4813 but to me, that would be beside Lupe's point. I'm okay with it if it weren't for Lu's reasoning. It's why he's talking about that EOW. Avoiding any lines that threaten people in any way hyperbole or whatever. They apparently talked about that issue in the past and for Royce to bring it up again, its all a lack of respect. Period. If we were "friends" and we've had heated discussions about shit you find touchy, and I haul off and do/say it anyway, I'm 100% deliberately disrespecting your wishes. I'm in the wrong. Period.
Touching on your point tho, who heard that line and didn't think it wasn't directed towards Lupe?
Lu ain't even got a Son, nigga just bitter and has always had something to say to Royce boiling inside. Get outa here😹😹
@@sihlesifundo6721 I agree to that, but still the fact remains, they talked about the lines. Lu felt like his lines were crossed after having discussions. So apparently it if line step habitually (knowingly or nah), you get the Lu-kang bicycle kick lu-cross the screen. 😂
"I ain't even trip when you called me a bitch, I was like, look at Salem calling me a witch" Royce's in his feelings right now kinda weird to me
Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face. Royce doesn't like it when he knows there are better mcs than him. He's insecure. Even Eminem knows he lost to MC juice at scribble and says it on camera. Royce is dope but I don't think he can fuck with Lupe but I never really knew about Mickey Facts lyricism.
Lupe holds mickey in high regards
He lost to Otherwize in rap Olympics, and Evidence from dialated was em's lupe he didn't want to reply to him either.....
Royce: help me out
Eminem: You need get off the internet..u need to get on the mic 😎😎 @stevieknight #stevieknight
Em and Royce discussing this would be hilarious to hear because there is no way Em wouldn’t know Lupe would do this to Royce if Royce dissed him. I refuse to believe Lupe doesn’t know Em’s work or that Em doesn’t know Lupe’s work, and since they know each other’s work they must know they both say if you go on wax with a diss I take your head. Royce must not listen to Lupe’s music or he’s skimming it.
😂😂😂
That was ill
@@flowstatelabs 🤣🤣🤣
Good one
I cant believe Royce...he was really talking that Goat talk and now dont wanna rap?! 🤣 He either gonna rap or take that L.
Royce considers himself an Alpha dog among the pack of rappers....🙄
Mickey has challenged Royce's position,and if Royce is truly the Alpha,then he has to take Mickey's head off!!!🤨
It's just that simple...😒
It's not about feelings,or negative energy, it's can you defend your Elite title against challengers!!!💯
If another rapper challenge you because you asked for the smoke, then you gotta respond, especially if they got bars
@@kennymccormick2370
Agreed, I think Royce believes he's at Em's level,where he's too high above to have to respond, but truthfully Royce is nowhere near that level.....🤨
Mickey Facts killed that shit.. Royce , em none of them are use to someone with skills to challenge them. If Royce doesnt response it's cause he don't want no smoke..
@@thatdudesme2 I agree with Royce wanting no smoke even though he kind of asked for it, But Em would body anyone, and yes Em hasn’t found someone with skills to challenge him, because he just that good. I’m not trying to dick ride Em, but he has killed all who started beef with him. Royce on the other hand still needs to prove his worth if he ever wants to be a Goat like Em, Jay-Z, Tupac, etc.
I love Royce but he talk like he Em or Pac which he is nowhere near, he asked for the smoke and now moaning about it, Em would have loved someone with Mickey’s ability to go at him, he called out Nas and Jay on the ‘monkey see monkey do’ track, because he wants that smoke from the Best of the best
Royce can feel however he feels but I still don't understand why he still hasn't clearly responded on wax just to end everything. Instead he keep talking and talking and talking.
Scared
The Royce Em Stans and Haters believe in is mythological they both want him to be better than he is, but for opposite reasons. The Stans think anyone who can rap with Em is a god and the haters like to argue that since Royce can keep up with Em technically doing violent free form and he says vaguely “woke” (for Royce in reality he stands for nothing other than the Royce himself) shit sometimes he is better than Em. But the basic answer is people who don’t know much about Hip Hop think Royce is better than he is by about double.
@@etotheipi42 No one can deny Royce is a great MC but you're right, I think people might be giving him more credit than he deserves. My main point is, how is your response to that nuclear bomb of a track by Mickie Factz an IG Live? Bro, come on, you done lost right there lmao
@@MattBlackstone Mickey gains the respect on his rap pen and Royce’s rap pen remains intact. The main damage done to Royce is people figuring out he is not a student of the game or he would have known not to go at Lupe at all just out of respect. Lupe has the level of respect Royce originally thought he had if not more.
“You won't find me in the mainstream if you look
You gotta look up 'pioneer' in them history books
Universal doesn't give me hooks
Nobody writes for KRS, you can read my books
Man, I be's my looks
No makeup here
I don't hang around at the top
It's too fake up there
Forget being in the front
I'd rather sit in the rear
And chill with my real people way down here
And oh yeah, I'd rather have a hundred true heads by me
Than one million fake fanatics standing behind me
Try me, I keep it raw and grimy
In front of the local Shop 'n Go
Spitting flows is where you'll find me
In the club
They have to look
Cause the crowd be jumpin' up from my classic hooks
Man, I'm not the crook type
I'm more the book type
I exist so you can see what a master looks like” - Krs One (Who is known as Tha Teacha for good reason) on the track “No Requests” with the beat by Datsik who is for sure not old school boom bap. The title of the song “No Requests” is about how the people with the most respect in hip hop are the DJs because they read rooms and keep parties jumping and they are supposed to be experts on music across genres and time periods. MCs are respected for their rhyme skill but that is a knit picky detail compared to how they move in the status game of being an MC and especially by what they stand for and if they are real.
.... and also Stevie I think you are right... Royce out there thinkin' he too big for people to come at him because of his crew. He hates having to lean on Em yet he depends on Em.... imo
Exactly. Royce looking like a coward. BS excuses with his energy BS
@@mvc2177 Yup, he is losing my respect so he best get up and start throwing his own punches...enough talk!
I mean he can’t punch back on Lupe who is an Elite MC so he is smart enough to know all rappers have pen cannons so he doesn’t drop ammo so like literally Lupe doesn’t have stuff you can diss him about. (Like Royce saying Lupe likes white people more than black people is retarded Lupe is on some like Malcolm X vibes, he’s not against guns just shooting fellow black people with them) and Mickey wants Royce to respond because it would be free publicity.
To put things in perspective, Ja Rule said one line about Haley (Em daughter), and Eminem continuously through dirt on top of them for about 20 years.
That being said, that line Royce said about the SunChips was way out of bounds... if someone came to me talking about they're gonna shoot my son or daughter, we fighting frfr.
You got a point there
@@psychomediabypsychoverb5701 Lupe said that The Sun chips bar was out of pocket. Lupe isn't gonna be doing the podcast with Royce anymore.
To be fair ja was going at 50 and the label
Lupe don't have a son. That was just a gun bar. It got took way out of context. Lu didn't like that lu like white people more than doing ish for black people bar
Does Lupe even have kids?
Royce just being hella weird with all this shit. I just hope he stops talking and starts rapping soon.
Royce a lil too sensitive. Even when him, Guru, & Murda Mook was on IG live & Lupe jumped on the live, he got sensitive n called him a bitch 🙄😑 Lu was clearly playing n tryna sell this battle by being energetic & aggressive. Now he feel attacked. Huh?? Lol Royce shoulda let his boundaries be known before initiating any type of battle of bars
I’m waiting for his diss track
It’s too late honestly
@UDONTWANT THESMOKE - How so? Kamarty's talkin about the subject matter at hand, per the whole point of this video... While I don't necessarily agree with Kamarty, I think it's kinda weird that you think it's kinda weird that giving an opinion on this whole debacle, is "weird shit."
@Mambutu O’Malley. Your profile pic gave me a blast to the past i wasn’t ready for 😆
Royce is being sarcastic and that means he’s already checked out emotionally. He sending a mixed message. You wanna be gauging energy but sarcasms comes from a place of checking out emotionally. Heartless. That’s what the difference in energy is Royce doesn’t care. But he cares about where the energy comes from.
where did you get that definition of sarcasm lul
Em and Crook definitely won’t get involved. Royce should just need to get out there and handle this himself.
Image is everything in this game, and Royce is damaging his right now. Its entertaining, but as a fan, i hate to see it.
I love the energy Royce Stans have it’s like that kid still waiting on the porch for their dad to come back from getting smokes for the third week in a row or like people who believe either Trump or Biden has a “heart” or a non dementia ridden mind.
It really is a shame. I thought royce would be able to handle some real rappers coming at him, but his actions thus far have proven otherwise.
@@alecvip7562 Royce’s problem was he was on some rap for rap’s sake shit and Mickey and Lupe were on some Hip Hop is something you live and rap is something you do shit. Royce was living rap which is ass backwards.
Royce has always been the one to say he’s on smoke but when he gets it he acts like a victim
Why would em get involve,i don't remember royce getting involved in any of ems beef, royce literally took snoop's side in that last em shit
Facts!! Thank you, Eminem doesn't have shit to do with this mess
Plus, if em does come in and kill everybody, that would kinda prove Lupes point that royce needs bigger names to stay on top.
So we just gonna act like Royce didn’t attack Lord Jamar multiple times before finally making peace? Royce didn’t jump on Mouse for talking shit about Em? Royce didn’t resolve the beef between Em and Nick Cannon? Royce didn’t check Joe for talking shit about Revival? You guys are fucking buggin. Royce always defended him. He was joking when he brought up Em but you all are just so fucking dense.
@@dah500 😂 good thing you just reminded me of that. I was about to agree with this dumbass comment. Thank you sir!!!
Exactly bro 💯
Crooked I just explained everything, we probably not getting a response from Royce. Crook was like he wanted him to respond too , and felt he should need help , but he also know Royce focusing on Mental health awareness and beef won't look good right now. He also saying Royce silence of lambda suppose to be 12 min, and was not supposed to be a diss record. Hopefully we finally get a Slaughterhouse album 🙏
The MC to Survive slaughterhouse without looking like a moron about the game is Joell after this, both Budden and Crook showed they aren’t smart enough about the game to know Lupe would kill Royce and that Royce dissing Lupe on wax by itself is enough to deserve being put death on wax in response. I mean Royce is obviously not a reality based rapper or someone telling his fans the truth or he would have known and communicated from the start that from his pen Lupe is untouchable he just doesn’t have the skillz to go at him. It’s not that he got killed that hurt him its that he wasn’t smart enough to know he would get killed doing what he was doing that hurts his reputation. We all knew Lupe’s pen is basically incomparably potent to Royce’s pen.
Royce needs to hit up his local shaman for some other kinds of “energy. ” Dudes sounding so soft rn jesus. Bad look for em.
What does it have to do with Em lol? These boys aren’t stepping to the god
@@jeffrhodes8103 you can say that again.
Its still guilty by association tho. Thats EMs main dude. Not a good look
It’s a bad look for Royce and we can only hope Em does feel some guilt by association then this will be some real diss tracks from both sides
@@jeffrhodes8103 only way I could see EM responding is on a Bad Meets Evil 2 project with Royce
I do believe that if Eminem is salty he is really salty... cause he respects the game and lives it... shit he is the game
18:06 "Partly playing,
Partly sarcastic,
Party serious"
Has to be the most confusing point of view ever
😂😂😂
I wasn't gonna give this interview my time.
You should react to the 4 Loosies Lupe released in like 3 days, there are subtle shots at Royce and he is spazzin on classic beats...
I wonder how much is really aboutt the “energy” rather than-self- knowledge and clarity. Maybe the idea of energy is sidetracking some from facing facts. Facts go overlooked
I love the excuses Royce is making right now smh..This so depressing to watch!
Right?? I'm from Detroit and I'm embarrassed af FOR HIM. 😂
@@Ibonic I didn’t even know who Mickey factz was until that diss track
Hell I didn’t even start listening to Lupe Fiasco‘s music until HIS diss track against Royce lol
@@Ibonic I remember a time when Royce was one of the hardest rappers in the game. Now he’s really making The D look weak as hell
@Nick-Gerrs Suck I never said THE hardest, I said ONE of…IMO anyway
Royce is soft man, Lupe and Mickey gave him the biggest reality check. They were both dope.
Facts...Royce just just got his teeth kicked in. He is copping pleas now
True
AMEN
Nah you need to see what king crook said about it recently. Im with this 100%
He’s basically mad he got knocked down a few pegs
If Mickey or Lupe had used that sun chip line themselves, Royce would’ve been mad as fuck.
some people underestimate royce when he responds u will see what hes capable of
Hope he responds this decade
Stop. Stop 🤣 Battle rappers are monsters in their lane. Royce knows this clearly. He's pulling an MGK.
Royce got washed
Am I the only one starting to question Royce's character? I can't respect the way he's moving right now.
No doubt he's a top tier lyricist, he's been one of the most consistent artists of the last decade.
However, the way he speaking on things rather than putting it on wax, it's making me look at him differently.
Also, he needs to stop with the tough guy talk. The more he does that, the more it sounds like he's trying to avoid getting into a rap battle.
you clearly dont read comments if you think you are the only one.. why did you even ask that question? and why did i even respond to you knowing that you dont read comments?
Look at king crooks recent video about it. Im with him on it 100%
@@alexanderjackson8389 Mind = 💥
@@lucascoxe8718 Just give me the excerpts from the video please? Thanks.
No, u are not the only one, I never liked him personaly, always felt he charather was wack, dope techical Rap but thats it for me
watch his stream with Mickey 2 days ago, he said he wanted to know if mickey and lupe were going in with ill intent or not, I think it's fair but it'll damage his reputation if he keeps doing this and not really rap .
I like Lupe and Royce and to be honest i only heard a few songs from Mickey. Royce made a great technical song its a high skill level but not good for a diss. We all expect Royce to diss Lupe and Mickey back but there is alot of pressure now on Royce because if he doesn't fire back 2 times harder he is fucked. Now its kinda too late for Royce after all the talking and acting scared. Its already a lose lose situation.
@@Feyenoord010Rotterdam yeah fr it's too late now. I like Royce but he is acting like a bitch right now. Don't start something if you can't back it up in the studio.
Honestly I think it already is damaging is image especially since he still didn't rap..... STILL. Almost a week.
@@Feyenoord010Rotterdam it took a week later when pusha dropped sum when he destoryed drake
@@xsmockjrx yea, but in Royce's defense, arcording to the live with Mickey after the "Wraith", he said to Mickey that he feel like Mickey and Lupe is comming at him with "bad energy" and more to damage his name instead of trying to see who's better lyricaly and Royce doesn't have that energy towards them.
Well, I think I understand Royce but how he handle it with bitterness and anger on the Live with Lupe made him look bad, even if Royce meant it or not he made Mickey felt disrespected and now he need to know if Mickey was comming at Royce with the same energy he thought Royce was giving him. well Mickey said no, he doesn't meant to disrespected Royce but he said he did that cause he felt like Royce disrespected him first, which made them both hypocritical if Royce's being hypocritical about him "checking boxes" moment with Mickey.
IMO: Royce felt cheated, Mickey felt disrespected, both claim they don't want to go in on each other personal sht but Royce felt like they already did on those songs and don't know if he should respond to them with "beef energy" or "competitive energy" . all the thing on the LIVE shit just makes everything so uncomfortable it's hurting Royce's image , relationship, pride , they should've discuss about this in private or just rap and it'll be at round 4 by this time already..... the big L is on US.
This baby beef probably not even on Ems radar.
Royce even admitted that
Em dont want no smoke all dat radar talk ... Juice and Rhimefest showed that
To be fair, the screen shot that was sent to them, was portrayed as " crooks " next, it was a dick move to send that out from Stevies patreon, but it was presented on the patreon as that exact thing so he didn't really take it out of context bc that was all that was shown so
What are u talking about ??
Nope.
He showed it on Patreon bc he trusted us. You are right that is was a dick move. What is the point of being a Patreon if we aren't getting exclusive content?
@@-Manda_SKnight_BeastMoD exactly , its kind of just known if you pay to see his content then maybe he is gonna post stuff just for that. Im just sayin it was posted to the patreon as kind of " crook is next" more or less takin shit and was posted to the youtube site with diff context
@@jadenking4268 I dunno. I super respect you and your opinion. Mayhap I'm not understanding you fully, as well - I have a hard time putting things together a lot - so I apologize if I have taken anything the wrong way.
I honestly don't know a lot about what is fair game and whatnot online. What I was raised to know is that there are two things that a person has: their trust and their word. Once either or both of those are broken, they cannot be fixed. Well, it takes a very long time to fix them, at least. He shared that story with us - that screenshot. That was not our story to tell (or show).
I am an old school country raised girl, tho. So when I said that I am probably not catching everything you have said, please keep that in mind💜
@@-Manda_SKnight_BeastMoD nope I agrew with ya 100, I personally wouldn't share anything that was shared with me in private either!
Royce the type of dude to pick a fight then run and tell his parents he got beat up.🙄
There's beef between Lupe and Royce. Lupe said he won't be doing the podcast with Royce anymore. He said Royce was out of pocket before the diss tracks and stuff.
Yeah... Apparently according to Royce, Lupe took things he said sarcastically to heart and that's why.
Frfr, Royce doesn't get a pass... If he doesn't jump back in the booth after being obliterated by Mickey, he don't have a leg to stand on talkin about he's "top tier", and I'm from Detroit. 🤷🏻
@@Ibonic Royce is a sucker
@@devotheambivert9875 after all this "one of the top tier MC" discussion, if Royce don't step in that booth, the only time we'll mention Royce and MC is if home boy goes into a McDonald's. 😂
@@Ibonic YOOOOOOO 💀💀
@@devotheambivert9875 😂😂😂 me too... Just came to my head frfr.
Have a good one bro, be safe out there ✌🏼
Royce looking like he trying to gather ghost writers to negate everything Mickey said why is it taking him so long . Did he not respond to Lupe quick ?
all this talk about "energy" and Royce not "likin'" it
That's mad sus bruh, you hurt, that's what it sounds like
You should react to all the 5 or 6 songs Lupe Fiasco has dropped since the diss track.
If you watch the podcast, you know Lupe didn't start it. Royce be talking too much shit thinking it's just words. "Words mean things!" REMEMBER
Bruh.. Snakes in the patreon causing beef, that shit is wack
Royce has been quiet for two days so...I think he's working on something.
Didn't he just have another live and even a whole interview like yesterday? I hope he raps ffs, I know he can handle it
It's to late. He did way to much crying
@@hoodcounselor not to late to destroy micky mouse hes making a whole album. Dissing them trust me
Honestly, although I am a fan of Royce (especially his past few albums), I really want him to respond so that hopefully Lupe drops SLR 4. It's been years since the last real SLR.
@MV740 time will tell
Another thing to consider is that Lupe responded to Kendrick’s control verse and Kendrick ducked him because it would have obviously been a bad idea for him to respond career wise and Royce acted like he was too big and mature to need to respond 🔥🤣 So Lupe was like hey Youngin you want this elder smoke for real? And Royce was like “I’ve got a lot of clout right now let me act like an OG for a sec” 💀💀💀💀
Kendrick wouldn’t of lost to Lupe.
@@bigken96 We’ll never know and Kendrick decided he wanted it that way
@@bigken96 I love Kendrick that’s why I pointed out Royce ducked control
23:33 That's when you know EM is a BEAST!!! He'd be going for the jugular by now!.....
More like months from now when he would finally come out of the dark with a diss track. I think part of the problem is that Royce can't come up with something good enough that quickly and they are pulling Royce into all these live meetings and shit and not giving him that kind of time so he's in an impossible position now and he knows it. If he disappeared now to write, he would be seen as weak and they would consider it already a loss. However, if he doesn't and continues just talking on these lives, he's still going to be considered weak because he's just talking and not rapping, and if he does quickly put something out and not take the time he needs, then he will fall short of what Mickey did and how fast he did it and would lose that way too. I think Royce is in his feelings because he knows he already lost. They played him from all angles.
@@TwistedSisler @TwistedSisler yeah I agree with the angles with Royce, totally!!! Between rock and hard place whichever approach he takes...
With Em, he may take that time,.. But guess he knows he's definitely not going to get BODIED!!.. No suprise number of people's rap career he's buried... No loss really.. There's rap then theres EM rap as we know!!!!
Stevie if that was a snippet I sent you on IG I didn't notice it was part 2 sorry about that brother! Your breakdowns are top-notch!
Yall forget who Royce is and what he capable of...until he remind yall
Mannn...
I've been watching you Royce fans saying this for weeks...but your hero is silent. Coulda woulda shoulda didn't.
Sun chips line..... "Put a hole in ya (as in you) son". I just don't think the language barrier between the way people talk and how it's perceived is true.
100
I Really hope royce is just trolling, but we'll see. If he is seriously up in his feeling about this, I won't know how to take Royce seriously ever again
seems like he's trolling but it's hard to tell sometimes
I said this before, in 2021 rappers do a diss track and then discuss their feelings after 🙄
👉Royce : "I can’t live without Doggystyle. I’ll take that over any Em music. It’s all subjective”
👉Royce's friends: "Snoop, Jamar, Charlamagne, Budden, Cannon and His Squad & Maybe Suge Knight"
👉Royce 29th July: "You know what I would be doing right now if somebody pulled this on one of my loved ones? I would have been rapped. I'm disappointed in Marshall"
royce didn't list any of those guys in his list of friends that he thought shouldve backed him up tho
@Lewis Morten Yea I am conflicted lately on Royce too...since he started making moves on social media he seem to bring a lot of arrogance! Not only the Snoop line but he also posted a pic with Nick when Nick was going after Em!👀
@@toni-ann5151 after he squashed their beef. The interview with Nick was after the Elvis Pussley. Royce been a peace maker behind the scenes. It was stans freaking out about the pic that caused them to announce the end of the beef
@@enigma429ad Good points and I hear ya, it just didn't sit right with me. He poked his head in the Snoop and Nick convo when the motives seemed 2fold...imo. I've respected him for years but lately he's rubbing me wrong.
@@toni-ann5151 yeah I feel on rubbing wrong way. I'm just hoping this causes him to get back to bar exam Royce
Royce threw in the towel on a live with Ranson. He said something like they should walk away with whatever glory from the battle and stop basking in (feeling themselves) it.
WTF is Royce doing?? Where is his track!! He's gonna take a BIG L if he doesn't handle this right, he can't afford a L really!
Royce is a BOZO
@@devotheambivert9875 well in this interview he certainly acted like one... And I've respected this guy for a long time but what is he doing...
I respect Royce's pen, but his character has always been questionable. He finally got ✔ for it, and it's put him off balance. Maybe he'll learn from it.
@@jenb8299 agreed! I feel like he thought he was too big for people to really come at him hard because of his crew...so here's your chance Royce - show them you up to it and prove once and for all you are more than Eminem's sidekick - stop complaining and get up swinging!!
@@toni-ann5151 Even if he drops a 💣, his character has been exposed. He's in a hard spot, but this mess is completely self-inflicted. At least go down swinging.
i feel like it’s smoke and mirrors too! bag! great for hiphop either way
Stevie -
“ you think eminem would do that “
Em did an individually split interview before dropping kill shot two weeks later on MGK … ?
The interview wasn't solely for mgk though.. he always does interview everytime he drops an album.. it just happened to be Sway asked him about mgk beef
@@mrsbard9813 exactly bro but I see why he was confused, he probably didn't watch the interview
EXACTLY I THOUGHT THE SAME WHEN HE SAID THAT.
@stevieknight. I totally feel what royce was saying there, if you really listened to him. He said, like he displayed in his song, he makes it about battle rap and keeping it general showing skills, not personal. If niggaz wanna get personal then we got real beef and it's now on some street shit!
Royce started it by basically saying mural was trash then Lupe joined and said quit the talking and said get in the booth
started when ransom said himself and rj payne are the best and royce said why?
Mr. Knight you should know by now people take words out of context whenever it suits there needs they also lie by omission whenever it benefits them or there cause! Your doing stuff and moving how other people wish they were and taking steps hell if you walked on water people would say so you cant swim!! Do you love catching your videos and watching you level up because of your sincerity that's what its about!!!
I think Royce is trolling. I HOPE Royce is trolling. I have a feeling He will be dropping some unexpected fire here shortly.
All you talking shit better hope not. Might be eating crow if he does.
Clocks ticking brother. It's been almost a week. Lupe so bored he battlin himself now
@@infiniteloop71 True… but Em released Killshot 11 days after Rap Devil and ended MGK.🤷♂️
Guess we will see.
@Nick-Gerrs Suck If by this time next week, he still ain’t dropped a response, I’m throwing in the towel. I have a hard time buying Royces ego will just let this shit go. Until then, I’m sitting back watching.
@Nick-Gerrs Suck I feel like people are a little over exited and blowing stuff out of proportion. Lupe & Mickey both put out decent diss tracks. Neither one is on a “OMG! That just ended the game!” level. They were good and did their respective thing, but not so good that there is no way back from them.
That’s why I’m holding back my judgment for now. They were alright, not career ending. Pride hurting? Sure. Not a “finish him” blow though.
@Nick-Gerrs Suck I’m still hoping that’s not the case and Royce don’t go down like that, but there is a limit when trying to give someone the benefit of the doubt. I’m still holding out until this weekend. If he still ain’t responded by then, he will have taken an official L in my book.
Royce is going through his humiliation ritual (3rd Eye Guy) 🕵
That sunchip line, for me is the exact reason why Em doesn't want any part of this and won't be involved.
He ain't about bringing people's kids into it.
No matter how big your head is, L's are notoriously hard to swallow.
I love this beef. It’s refreshing lol
And ppl wonder why Royce feels the way he do and why he says their energy is weird that nigga from Detroit rappers out there don't fake beef TF! That's why that nigga said they better check all the boxes
Talk about a emotional rollercoaster!! GEZUZ! He's all over the place!
Damn, dude in red hat is corny af, every time I see him
You definitely gotta check out the rest of the conversation, mickey gets on the call and Royce explains his position.
And Mickey apologizes over and over for twisting things 🤣 he admits he basically did it all on purpose
Em wont get involved even If he knows about the beef. But the thing is, can or willl royace respond with the diss that hard and it better be em/pac level disses. Otherwise he should just keep quiet and take L. Cause if he just rams like he did here on the interview that's just bad for everything he is in the game
Lupe took this serious too.. he’s the one that had a problem with the sun hip line and I sent u a video of him talking about that🤜🏻🤛🏿🖤🐐🔥
Moist da 59
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Royce over here questioning Mickey and talking to him like he his father. Mickey over her apologizing and explaining himself like a son. This ain’t no beer or battle, this big bro barking on lil bro for standing up to him.💯
I’m a huge huge Royce fan, but I’m also objective and he’s been acting passive aggressive mixed with trolling/sarcasm/cryptic/hypocritical.
Objectively Mickey had one of the illest diss records on wax ever lyrically!
Only way to respond to someone who smoked you 🤣 And legit i have been with Royce from Day1, somehow i had never even heard of this Mickey before this beef 🤦🏼♂️but SMOKED!!!!
@@williamclaridge7489 Peep his Mickey Mause concept album, Achievement deluxe album, numerous RUclips freestyles, his track “A-“ that Royce passive aggressively tried to clown but it’s ill, lots of dope features. He puts out too much content so some of it suffers from filler, but on his A game Mickey Factz been an elite 👽level MC since late 2000s!
Didn’t he say fuck Osiris anthem and the eow when lupe brought it up as a more objective place to really see who is the best?
And then after dude dissed him he has a whole surprised pikachu face now.
Brought up stuff that he knew would trigger lupe. Stuff that they already got hot over on the pod and they edited that stuff out.
Then when lupe goes in on him he comes yet again with the surprised pikachu face.
And then him and buddens were belittling Mickey and telling him to bring the smoke. After he does he wanna come with the surprise pikachu face again.
Man smh Royce a professional victim.
Karen da 5'9 or Salem da 5'9 🤔
@@thetruest7497 Royce Da Cry’9
i personally think royce never wanted them to have a beef, when lupe pressurised royce to prove his ability, he just agreed to showcase his lyrical ability in the song in response, but lupe and mickey coming at him with disses... so i think its completely his decision if he doesn't want to reply ... rest ...god knows lol
i think royce is the one who is misunderstood here.. thats it.
personally i beleive royce is a smart man, so obviously if he is deciding something, there's gotta be a sense of rationality in it (unbiased opinion)
i mean battle rap has disses lol, friends or not your are supposed to be throwing the hardest shots, mickey didnt really go under the belt, he was showing him love too. royce got no excuses bc he been running his mouth for yearsss about how he can battle 90% of mc’s and even battle rappers in their own shit. he been starting fires and clear once the smoke comes.
I just think Royce just doesn't have anything personal and bad to say about Lu and mickey.. but they clearly do.
The way i understand the situation.. Royce is perplexed at how Mickey can say the things he said about Royce on a song and then be like.. u r one of the dopest and i still love u.
. but i don't think Royce can turn that switch on and off just like that..
Fans want him to just Rap..but the man is an recovering alcoholic, in therapy if he brings the "venom" it can affect his personal life on several different levals. idk
i don't care if he raps or not.
Aloha my friend love your break downs of those bars you the best.😁🤙
Royce is showing his weakness.
I will say that Royce is not a dude that would pump gas into anything. He’s a real dude. I’d it was gas he would be open about it.
Maaaan my respect for Royce is slowly going away
Same. Royce acting weak as hell.
YUP! ...and I'm commenting everywhere because I am surprised and disappointed right now with Royce😕
Hes has a plan
@@toni-ann5151 Ive been disappointed since he sided with snoop. He’s wack period
@@mvc2177 yeah I had let that issue slide knowing Em swallowed that BS but now this.....
The sun chip line was a hyperbole and the diss was directed at lupe. Lupe doesn't have kids first off. Mickey was questioning the line and royce told him he wasn't thinking of him when he wrote it but if he wanted it he could have it. He wasn't directing that at Mickeys son. He even did a podcast that had mickey on it and he explained it to him.
All these yt rappers people don’t kno you can type a few words into a generator and it literally gives you lines to say 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Royce acts like he said nothing personal or "disparaging".
Like the line referring to Chilly.
Like the line implying that Lupe doesnt care for black people.
Like calling him a bitch.
How're you upset about someone saying they'll bury you in a song, then talk about shooting sons to someone else?
Man's literally painted a picture about leaving him dead and cold, like what? Royce understands rap culture enough to know that those lines aren't serious, he makes use of them himself.
His energy was off from the get go and then he gets surprised when it comes back at him
Royce and Em are a perfect rapping couple and when combined together they create an UNSTOPPABLE FORCE. and That Will KILL Careers.....
Another thing to consider is that Lupe responded to Kendrick’s control verse and Kendrick ducked him because it would have obviously been a bad idea for him to respond career wise and Royce acted like he was too big and mature to need to respond 🔥🤣 So Lupe was like hey Youngin you want this elder smoke for real? And Royce was like “I’ve got a lot of clout right now let me act like an OG for a sec” 💀💀💀💀
Yeah and Em should stop rapping with this coward
Look, I love Eminem and Royce as much as the next guy, but that’s a HUGE stretch. Lmao
Stevie, check out ' A Kiss" wit Em & Royce, nice dual 👌😎
You are the reason I wanna start doing reactions. It’s all about passion right?
Go for it mate! Il sub 👌
@@MPJordan89 🐐. Bron’s Space Jam sucks btw 😂
@@ToxicBottledOstrichNostrils haha 😄 The original was a classic
All about this tournament!
want in the next one!
Sounds like Royce dont wanna start Beef beef outside of rap. He sounds conflicted. He may have wanted it on rap only and took it personal when Mickey broke down his style.
No he's trying to act like it's more cuz he got destroyed twice and can't seem to except it. U don't tell a black man u care more for white people. Then saying u gonna shoot someone's son, Call lupe a bitch and u will fuck him up then say your the government spokesmen for the vaccine to fuck over black folks. Just one of those is enough to go hard at someone. He can't identify his own doings which happen to be the cause for Lupe and Mickey's responses. Hes in denial basically
He can't be worried about starting beef outside of rap when he's literally the only one talking about beef outside of rap. He's trying to intimidate people he considers nerds so they won't keep torching his salty ass in the booth.
Lupe is saying the exact same thing!!!!! He wants it on that eow. And that's a competition where the main rule is, you cant diss the other person... straight skills... they are trying to avoid another west v east ( Chicago v Detroit)
Royce is corny as hell, he needa stop talkin on ig and get in the booth
shit turned from friendly competition, to beef and then to plain drama. if royce disses back, it'll have to be extremely personal and wouldn't make shit any better at this point. damned if you do, damned if you don't
I like Royce but these lives make him look weak
If they already tripping over the one line that Royce said i think they would be hurt by the level of disrespect Royce could dish out. Maybe it would be hard for Royce to match energy without crossing the line. Idk. Maybe that's what he means.
Trust me SK Royce ain’t scared.
No he's not
Then he needs to hop on the mic
@@ghostlyripper4403 that’s a fact. I’m giving it time. I’m a bit disappointed he went on an ig live “ rant”
@@ghostlyripper4403 sure does and soon
Even if he's not scared he's still acting like a bitch and that was before any diss songs dropped. Him acting like Lupe and Mickey started this is fucking ridiculous.
Royce is an Old MC that been around for a long time that's being reminded about an old lesson we were all taught as a child
Stevie knight clowning royce 🤣
Loved Stevie until I see him with a clown dax . Wtf
Yep and he better watch his mouth coming for Royce
@@divastyle45ful dax or stevie?
Can we ask Stevie to do a poll, weather Royce should respond or not.
If Em’s new album has tracks with Royce, am going to skip Royce’s verse due to having no respect for him anymore.
Makes no sense lmaoo it could be the hardest track of the album
Then you never were a fan of Royce.
@@jamminmonkey100 Em’s verse I agree. Royce? Don’t care, skip
@@sk8rjason I never was. I only respected him. Never did i claim to be a fan. Never will I care too. Heck Mikey got my attention tho.
@@sk8rjason Royce dont have fans, he has Eminem fans as long as he remains Em's butler.
"this type of energy", "that type of energy" and when he was asked to answer in the booth he said "naaaah" like he is taking it to the streets!! what type of energy is he talking about?
Royce's "arrogant energy" just got checked and he doesn't know how to handle it!!
Let's pray eminem stays a long way from this beef
For his own good
@@kevinbarahona6756 nah, not because of that, he would handle it just fine lol. But for royce and the good of the beef, em would just inherit the beef and that would just make royce look weak and we all would forget why it started. Claim em would get bodied by lupe or factz is the joke of the day
Em would get washed. 😂😂
@@bobbyfreeman2025 gtfo 😂 delusional lupe stans 🤦
Btw, i love lupe, bjt eminems pen game is untouchable, facts 💯
Daylyt is lurking for Em don’t do that to him
Great breakdown
In the early ig lives with Lupe, Royce was super disrespect to Lu pe and gave a big FU to all battle rapper and said they are trash. He wasnt friendly at all. Came off really bad. So this whole thing was brought on by Royce 100% . Regardless of anything , you can see he's afraid.
When Eminem said,
"Revival didn't go viral
Denaun and Royce tell me that I should take the high road
Fuck that, I'm finna hit back
'Til I run out of gun powder and split the scene"