Graphite vs Glass BFS Rods: BFS Trout Rods (BFS Trout Fishing)
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- Опубликовано: 5 май 2022
- In this video "Graphite vs Glass BFS Rods: BFS Trout Rods (BFS Trout Fishing)" Hobie-Wan Kenobi talks about what situations he uses fiberglass rods and graphite rods for BFS trout fishing.
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*this video speaks in general terms and compare rods in same price point.
Graphite (carbon) BFS rods are common and generally a safe bet in all price points. Rod makers have been able to incorporate complex tapers into graphite blanks to make them very responsive when casting and twitching lures then have more give when a fighting a fish. Sensitivity is another strong point. That plus the faster actions is better for fishing jigs, plastics and other "feel" lures.
Fiberglass rods have a smooth feeling that casts nice and cushions the surges of fighting trout very well. Those same properties can make twitching lures, especially in fast current, a little less responsive. Fiberglass rods generally load up with less force so, short casting is generally easier. Be very careful purchasing a "cheap" BFS fiberglass rod, they can be VERY sloppy when casting and have little lure control.
Line choice does play a factor in rod action. With these rods being shorter and having less power, the stretch of mono or the lack thereof with braid can really alter the way a rod acts. Braid will "give" the rod more power / make the rod taper "faster". Mono will do the opposite. These variables are small but, may matter in your type of fishing.
The Jackson Kawasemi Rhapsody is at Bait Finesse Empire: baitfinesseempire.com/product...
Being collapsed to 19.7", this rod should be great for hiking into headwater trout creeks. The ability to keep the reel and lure rigged up while collapsing the rod is very convenient. It has a nice taper for a 4 piece telescopic rod and should be well suited for hardbaits and also using soft plastics.
This is the first rod I have had with "floating guides". When collapsed, most of the guides slide down the blank to stack together. When the blank is deployed, it is easy to slide the guides into place and be ready to fish.
Rod Length: 4’7″
Pieces: Telescopic - 4 Section (19.7″ Closed Length)
Power: Light
Action: Fast
Line Rating: 6lb MAX - 0.6 PE MAX
Lure Rating: 8g (1/4oz) MAX
Guides: 6+1
Rod Weight: 88g (3.1oz)
Composition: 98% Graphite / 2% Glass
The headwaters of rivers and mountain streams are often found in rugged environments covered with brush, making it difficult to comfortably fish. In such places, anglers can find gorgeous native trout, and often the larger ones are hiding in the most difficult-to-reach pockets. Casting a lure to those tight “unreachable” points, and attracting mountain fish, for many, is the absolute pinnacle of bait finesse fishing pleasure. However, it is also true that clearing obstacles and fighting against the terrain can be the most stressful situations for anglers.
With this in mind, Jackson designed the Kawasemi Rhapsody Rod Series to be free from stress in these difficult situations. Carefully selected lengths that allow you to concentrate on your cast without being distracted by the surroundings of overhead tree branches, boulders, and grasses. Furthermore, by designing the actions of these rods so that each model plays a different role, anglers can fine-tune their techniques and diversify their lineup of useable finesse lures.
By utilizing Fuji SiC-S guide rings, the casting ability of lightweight lures, which are often used in trickle-style waters, has been further improved upon. While heavier sinking minnow lures with a fast initial velocity can be cast further by allowing line to smoothly pass through the guides after release.
Sometimes, the surrounding cover and terrain require that the angler cast with a sidearm or underhand technique to clear a branch, but with the support of this rod, it is possible to deliver the lure accurately every time with ease.
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What BFS rods are you using?
I tend to buy higher end reels and cheaper rods. I have a majorcraft days, tsurinoya kendo. Tsurinoya elf trout. A proflex 2 and a Chinese glass rod that I’m really impressed with. Only 1.4m so ideal for bushwhacking stream work. Pretty much got all bases covered but doesn’t stop me looking 😂😂
I don't care what the price tag is, if it works, it works. The TSU Ares is great for back creek brook trout and is my favorite rod for that fishing. Isn't the most versatile rod though.
@@HobieWanKenobi I’ve found the tsurinoya rods to be awesome for the price. The kendo is great for cranks due to the action being slightly slower. The elf is slow action but still sensitive due to it being carbon and at over 6ft great for longer range work, the proflex is xfast and brilliant for soft plastics. Especially hopped across the deck. Can’t really go wrong with them as far as I can see.
True. That is what is great about the internet, people can learn from each other much faster than learning by themselves.
@@HobieWanKenobi exactly. If I’d of done a little research before purchases I’d of saved a lot of money but it’s all part of the journey I suppose.
Man, every time I see one of your videos I get so jealous of the gorgeous areas you get to visit and fish! You must be getting tired of seeing me in the comment sections of all your videos but I've only recently dipped into the BFS world and you have hands down the most technically educational videos. So much so that it reminds me of how much I have to learn in the BFS (and especially trout fishing) world. Keep up the great content!
I don't have to travel very far for it, which I appreciate. I'm glad to see you learn from my videos!!!
Lots of good info in this video. Your videos always go in depth with each topic.
Glad you think so! Good to be able to help.
Thanks. Really helps to put things in perspective. As always, everything comes with strengths and weaknesses.
That's what makes fishing so fun. How to leverage variables and equipment to be successful and have fun.
I've always stuck with fiberglass rods for my pike setup, as they allow me to swim the baits in a more natural motion, especially for twitching, but you've brought up so many other benefits of fiberglass rods. I have an old (15 years) Browning med-heavy that i just love. I use a medium-light graphite rod for my trout spinners. Thanks for all the info!
Glad it was helpful!
Nice video! I always get exited when You post new videos because You talk about exactly the stuff that im wondering about. I just got myself the majorcraft finetail fsg410 casting ud glass rod, already got some trout also on it.
Sweet!!! I looked into that rod quite a bit. Silver Creek Glass Progressive too
@@HobieWanKenobi yeah silver creek costs twice as much tho. Pretty hard to find these popular rods all sold out, gotta really look deep to find what You want. The 46 version probably easier to get tho and you want that one i bet.
I did want that version until the L powered one came out. It would have more back one than this glass rod and would compliment this one.
Thanks for that nice comparsion. I really like your way in convey content. 👏👏👏
For myself, i misuse an jdm slow-taper rockfish-rod from abu as a nice compromise between sensitivity and flexability for streamfishing…paired with braid-line and fluocarbon-leader. A nice funstick for me.
These rods aren't my favorite fun stick but, they are still a joy to use.
Great insight as always 🙌
Thanks. Selecting a BFS rod can be difficult and what works for one person may not work for the next person.
Great video. Good to know how much line choice affects rod action.
I can say that I have built many BFS rods and when buying a blank from the internet, you do not know truly how it is going to work. Specs are only part of the story. I have used braid to stiffen rods and mono on blanks I thought were going to be softer than they really are.
Nice explanations as always.
Thank you. I appreciate the comments!
Great video, I've ordered a glass rod, could you discuss hook setting power in rods? Some slow rods just seem to lack the power to set the hook.. I'm moving more towards rods with a bit more backbone due to this issue..
Using braided line will help with hooksets. If using jigs, carbon will really help.
Awesome comparison video of a lost material reappearing.
Thank you.
Any input on the Curado Glass BFS Light Cranking rod for bass in open ponds/lakes as far as what techniques you would potentially use with it? Thanks.
What rod is the green rod? Great videos!
Exactly... love those UL glass rods...
It is a rush getting a big fish though. I feel outgunned when a 20in trout is on this glass rod 😂.
Same way I felt with the 42cm Peacock Bass on 2lb line... got my high for the day... so I know what you felt buddy. 😁😇
@@christopherlee4613 Haha...that must have been a rush
@@HobieWanKenobi yep... best feeling ever...
Hi, friend. Please tell me which of the two rods is more convenient for you to fish in streams with 2-3 g lures - a glassfin rod or your homemade glass green rod?
For glass rods , good quality thin wire hooks are essential for a positive hookset
Thin wire hooks do help. The glass blank also protects those light hooks from bending too
Great video. I think the whole terminology for describing a rod’s attributes needs a revisit:
Fast and slow should only be used to describe the recovery of the blank (ie carbon fast, glass slow), but then discerning between carbon blanks could be problematic (measure in milliseconds?). Taper should be described as short (currently fast) or long (slow). These are more accurate. Power ratings? Well that’s a bit tricky, but maybe just stick to line class and/or casting weights.
I’m interested to hear what others think.
That's an interesting point of view. People saying "medium heavy action" really arent saying anything. I know what they mean but, it adds to the already murky system of rod ratings.
Do you have a bass BFS rod review video comparing curado BFS rod vs cashion vs others? I’m wanting to buy my first bfs rod for bass fishing and feeling a little lost currently (here in USA)
I have a video coming VERY soon about that.
Hey brother! Could you do a video about what lures are your favorite and what fishing gear you use with them? I really would like to know what that little purple my neighbor totoro bus lure is! huge Ghibli fan hahaha
I can do a video like that. I will have to break it up between trout, panfish and bass.
what brand blank is the glass rod you built?
I gotta get myself a glass. I just got my first BFS setup a month or so ago, 4'9 carbon on the way, then next evolution is glass
They each have their pros and cons.
Have you noticed any difference in number of lost fish between glass, glass composite (the silver creek glass progressive) and carbon rods?
It's usually moreso matching the power of the rod to the fish. Using a rod with too much power regardless of material tends to lead to more fish getting off. I will say most times, glass keeps fish pinned better. That is especially true in fast current. The Tsurinoya Ares I use a lot for brook trout is solid carbon so, it bends somewhat like glass.
New Aldebaran sitting on the edge of the hand rail had me nervous.
The water was high and fast too 😳.
may I ask a suggestion for a chinese BFS rod, to use with light soft baits ? Thankyou
Tsurinoya makes some good rods for the money. The Ares is a good rod but, depending on what size soft plastics, it might not have enough power to set the hook.
What red line brand are you using in the thumbnail? :O
That orange line is VARIVAS Super Trout Advance Bush Trail.
Nice video😀😀
Thanks for the visit
@@HobieWanKenobi I'm going to buy the first ultra light casting, but I don't know if the multiplier will fit the rod, is there a chance to check it somehow? Reel to Tsurinoya Dark Wolf Ultra I've seen a lot of movies about him and he is recommended by people if you know something about him or would you suggest something at a reasonable price. I'm pretty new to this topic, but your videos have really encouraged me to try this method. Regards😎
@@piotrbarlik4188 If you have a casting rod (usually with a smaller first guide and trigger on the reel seat), it will work with and baitcasting or multiplier reel
@@HobieWanKenobi I have already ordered a major craft troutino 4.10 1-8g rod
What length would you recommend, im planning to buy solid carbon rod for my UL set with braided line, mainly fish for snakehead and bass
And also, ive never fish for trout cause theres no trout from where i lived, i believed that trout had a thick mouth, unlike bass with super thin mouth where you can hook up super easy, why people use slow action super soft rod for trout fishing when its harder to hookup?
Bass get a better strike on lures. Trout tend to swipe at lures so, a softer rod helps the trout take the lure into it's mouth better. Fishing I'm a stream, there is current and other factors that require more cushion to prevent the trout from shaking the lure loose.
@@HobieWanKenobi i see, thank you, other than that, is there any difference between BSF and UL?
@@danishdaniel785 BFS can include UL fishing ranges but, it also goes higher that UL as well. BFS is with a baitcasting reel as well.
I got 2 custom glass casting rods . 1 is a Resilure cutom glass on an S blank rated 1-6 grams with Torzite Guides and the 2nd in a Gray Wolf Trout smith on an E glass blank rated 1-5 grams not sure of the guides but they are high end Fujis no doubt . Only used them with Flourocarbon so far . The Resilure is a faster action than the Trout Smith and both enjoyable to cast . The Resilure has a glass piece inserted into the joins where as the Trout Smith doesnt and just slots over its self . Both great rods but the Trout smith is more sensitive to me . Not sure if its the one being S andthe other E glass blank that makes the difference or if its to do with the glass inserts in the S blank . The Trout smith is a much softer rod and slower action so you would think it would be the least sensitive . But its not the case . Thinking about it though , I used 2 different fluorocarbons so maybe one has more stretch than the other . More testing needs to be done . They are definitely stream rods and i get more distance with less effort with my carbon rods . Considering getting the Major Craft FineTail Glass next or the Tenryu Rays Spectra RZS51LL-BC Casting rod . The addiction is real and not for the faint hearted . Not Just Bfs but casting rods and reels in general . Im not even gonna go into my SUL , XUL , UL spinning rods and reels . I would love to know a rod builder here in the UK that would convert some of my SUL , XUL and UL JDM rods into casting rods but they are not easy to find here . Great content Hobie-Wan .
Thank you for the thurough comment. The Spectra 51L is a nice rod. Very versatile but... expensive.
@@HobieWanKenobi Its a shame your not local in the UK . Id happily drop my rods and reels off to you for you to review on your channel . Ive got the Tenryu Rayz Spectra RZS-61LL spinning version . Taking it out for an hour or 2 in about 30 mins . Curious to see how the shorter casting version is . Heard good things about the finetail glass casting rods also . Eventually i will have a clear out once ive decided which rods and reels i enjoy most . The rest will be going on ebay i hope . Lol .
@@elwooddestiny11blues20 I been wanting to play with some more mid level glass rods.
@@HobieWanKenobi You definitely notice the difference when you step up . I dont get to fish as often as id like . When i do go , i want it to be as fun as possible .
@@elwooddestiny11blues20 Doesn't matter the cost of tackle. Whatever is gonna let you enjoy fishing the best you can
Bună.imi place cea ce faci! poți să-mi spui de unde ai luat bățul din fibră de sticlă,ai putea sa ne lași un link de unde am putea achiziționa așa ceva? îți mulțumesc și ți doresc fir intins
Buna ziua, tija din fibra de sticla este facuta de mine.
so which glass rods (spinning) are you recomending from AlieExpress? is it anything worth of attention there/?
AliExpress has some solid rods. You definitely can find better quality elsewhere but value for the money, some good ones. The Palms Egeria NATIVE Performance is a rod I really like for the money. That's on Digitaka
@@HobieWanKenobi Thanks :)
Nice video! I think the only difference of carbon fibers vs. glass fibers are modulus and maximum stretch / tensile yield. And as you said, there’s different modulus glass fibers, Quarts S-Glass may be strongest one. But carbon has modulus over glass, and therefore it’s a lot of easier to do faster blank from carbon than glass. Rod action (how much parabolic action) is in my opinion more related to rod taper than material. Solid blanks are usually more parabolic action and glass is usually more parabolic action, but I have one solid glass blank, which is not parabolic action at all. I have more parabolic action solid carbon blanks, and I have more than that parabolic action tubular glass blank…So rod action is in my opinion principally taper -related. After all, in my stream fishing solid carbon short rod (Tsurinoya Ares / Tsurinoya Trout Master) works really good. Trout Master is better in case of 2+ gram lures. It’s solid carbon, and action is something between common carbon rod action and common glass rod action. Relatively mild taper + solid blank allows it to bend almost parabolically, because stretch doesn’t grow too much in any point of blank. Btv, are you going to get those glass rods you using to shop of BFS emperium? And that was good point to leave front hook away from minnow, to get lure hooked deeper in to mouth. Actually realizing that, front hook of small minnow is more ore less useless. Maybe to replace it by 2 spilt rings, similar weight than hook, and to create sound.
Good input! The tapers of rods is a complex science and that is what makes expensive rods often times better. Those small details adding up to add to performance.
As of now, BFE will not be stocking the glass rod I am using.
For hook placement, I do the front hook point toward to lip when fishing waters with less snags. I use lures with hook point face rear or no front hook in areas with a lot of logs and such.
Hello, what rod is the glass rod? can you give me a link where can i get one? Thank you!
I built this BFS rod.
What is a good glass rod for 1-5 grams and not so expensive
I am on the quest for the same answer. I have been looking into different options for light powered glass rods that are not wet noodles.
I am a Chinese, and my foreign language is not very good. Can you tell me which fiberglass pole you have?
This is a custom rod I built myself.
I like videos fren.
I like videos fhising fren
Glad you enjoy the videos.
Out West we call noodle rods !
Same here up north
Where can I buy a blue glass rod?
I made this rod myself.
thank you for teaching me
It's a really cool rod
The grip is especially cool.
@@user-wm5nn3ig4s I really like this rod. The grip is much better than cork for my preference
It looks cool too
i want one too！