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  • @olivethrush7450
    @olivethrush7450 5 месяцев назад +61

    50 years ago I used a human trained mechanic for servicing my cars. He could fix most things by just listening close to the exhaust. Then adjusting the carburetor, (remember those?) or Distributor/plugs manually until it sounded right to his trained ear. Job done and we were good to go for another 25,000 miles. Oil change extra. Cup of tea gratis from his wife unit whilst we waited.
    Good feature Ray.

    • @donaldmickunas8552
      @donaldmickunas8552 5 месяцев назад +6

      Those were the days, my friend. 😉

    • @chrishengeveld6117
      @chrishengeveld6117 5 месяцев назад +3

      When we used a broomstick or used an empty funnel at the block to our ear to find out which valve was tapping .. or when we would take out the #1 plug and put our finger over the hole and have our buddy crank until we felt pressure.. how we found top dead center back in the day. (Yeah, im thay old to remember that) lol

    • @jimdavis6833
      @jimdavis6833 5 месяцев назад +2

      Back in those leaded gas days I couldn't get 25,000 miles on a set of plugs, maybe 20,000 at best.

    • @donaldmickunas8552
      @donaldmickunas8552 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@jimdavis6833 In those days, cars were affordable to the average person. That same person could repair that car out in the backyard on a beautiful summer day. Cars were far less complicated than they are today.

    • @jimdavis6833
      @jimdavis6833 5 месяцев назад

      Cost is relative. I was making about $250 a week back then. Also we didn't have Google to search every little problem. We had to use our heads.@@donaldmickunas8552

  • @jdub264
    @jdub264 5 месяцев назад +70

    He teaches to how drive a car, how to fix one, and construction. He’s the Ray of all trades.

    • @jameslastname9171
      @jameslastname9171 5 месяцев назад

      He taught us about turn signals and high beams. This time he FAILS MISERABLY as he stopped traffic completely at a corner without a stop sign that was designed with a special lane only for people turning right to go into WITHOUT STOPPING

    • @WildFire2028
      @WildFire2028 5 месяцев назад +5

      @@jameslastname9171 and with that mentality, you will become a FORD. I would inconvenience the person behind me instead of being a road killed.
      That's the problem with today's mentality, don't think about safety, just go and wing it. If it comes 2 inches in front of your face but don't get metal slapped, you laugh it off, but when you do get metal slapped, and in near death, you sit back and curse at yourself for being dumb. Then you are quick to sue the other driver for your own stupidity.
      Think about your safety first and those around you before you leap. You will get to live another day to tell your story.

    • @GARDENER42
      @GARDENER42 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@jameslastname9171 Just because you HAVE the right of way doesn't make it right to take it.

    • @ponycar351w
      @ponycar351w 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@jameslastname9171 Watch it again and look closer at 2:24. There is no merging lane at that intersection, just a triangular merging area that you have to wait for traffic before using unless you want to cause an accident or run someone off the road like Ray is describing.

  • @rbrowntn1
    @rbrowntn1 5 месяцев назад +16

    As an experienced VR/AR developer, at *best*, mixed reality could be used during the assembly process to train new line workers or maybe quality control but under ideal factory conditions. Dirty, crusty, and/or leaking engine compartments aren't going to have the fidelity to help accurately diagnose within VR/AR. Despite best efforts, digital will never be the end-all answer - there will always be a need for analog diagnostics by a dirty, crusty leaking technician.:)

    • @AJwoodway
      @AJwoodway 5 месяцев назад +1

      Dirty crusty leaking tech! 🤣🤣🤣

  • @alabamared2568
    @alabamared2568 5 месяцев назад +73

    No kind of AI could ever replace Raymond and Lauren...does not compute!!!!✨️✨️✨️

    • @WildFire2028
      @WildFire2028 5 месяцев назад +2

      There's no such thing as AI Unit. Who can replace a Wife Unit with an AI Unit?

    • @MonkeyJedi99
      @MonkeyJedi99 5 месяцев назад

      Anyone remember Google Glasses?
      -
      Also, a headset can't turn a wrench.
      Sure, in a perfect setting, with NOTHING out of place, a computer could control a robot to turn a wrench.
      But add some dirt, the variability of rust, aged plastic connectors that break when touched, missing fastener, broken studs, and customer modifications.
      Is that engine leaking or did the car just drive through a puddle? Can the computer adjust for every possible level and color of dirt? As Ray's example, will it find a chewed wire or will it keep replacing the same sensor?

  • @howardrubin4916
    @howardrubin4916 5 месяцев назад +23

    I was a ASE parts specialist. We used books and experience before the computer screen arrived at the parts counter. The computer displaced or ended the careers of many talented people. I saw it coming and I learned how to fix, build and repair computers back in the last century, taking advantage of the new technology. VR is a dead end in my opinion.

    • @Thatonefuckinguy
      @Thatonefuckinguy 5 месяцев назад +4

      The problem with VR is it's too god damn expensive. And sure when it first came out, early adopter fees are a thing. But now that they've been around for nearly a decade, the prices just ain't dropping unless you want a third party set that'll give you motion sickness. Like how are shops going to afford to put a headset on every mechanic in every shop? They already have to buy expensive tools as is.

    • @vthegoose
      @vthegoose 5 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah, I can either buy a set of snap on flank drive plus 4 angle wrenches or one headset that is extremely sensitive to harsh environments, it’s kind of a no brainer which is more important

    • @1369Stiles
      @1369Stiles 5 месяцев назад

      @@Thatonefuckinguy so, just like the dipshit that was making the claim about vr replacing mechanics, you dont know what the hell you're talking about. VR rigs prices are pretty much equivalent to the prices of smart phones.
      and no, the apple vision pro is not over priced.....not anymore overpriced than your average apple iphone.
      the quest 3 128 gig is only 500 dollar; maybe with any accessories that you would need to buy (like a decent head strap), the cost would go up to about 650.....that is not expensive, considering the tech thats inside it. im pretty sure that some of Ray's hand tools cost more than that

    • @surewhynot6259
      @surewhynot6259 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@Thatonefuckinguythe price is definitely not the problem with VR. A decent "first-party" headset can be had for $350. Unless you're talking AR, which is more expensive and technically challenging to do.

    • @Thatonefuckinguy
      @Thatonefuckinguy 5 месяцев назад

      Yeah but we're still talking about 350 times 5-10 depending on how big the shop is. Adds up fast.
      And then we gotta talk trackers that you need in the correct zones. That's a mess to set up. @@surewhynot6259

  • @user-ko7nk2hv7u
    @user-ko7nk2hv7u 5 месяцев назад +7

    I am 76 years old. You and I think identically the same when it comes to driving. Safety first
    I am a former aircraft mechanic who also tinkered with cars. I have learned a lot watching your videos, thanks.

  • @instantsiv
    @instantsiv 5 месяцев назад +21

    When they showed the airplane engine and how you can take it apart in virtual space as it’s running… I was thinking someone is gonna stick their hand in an actual running engine by accident.

    • @chrishengeveld6117
      @chrishengeveld6117 5 месяцев назад +2

      Lol.. a running jet engine ..i remember when one guy got sucked up and spit out as burger meat because he made the mistake of walking in front of one
      ..im sure the VR helmet wont last inside after hitting every blade...lol

  • @Lensman864
    @Lensman864 5 месяцев назад +99

    I was a member of the UK RX-8 owners club and owned one of the first cars in the country from 2003 to 2008. No, there should be zero vibration. My dealer put a full glass of champagne on the engine and revved it to 9500 rpm with not a ripple. The engine actually displaces 3.5 litres because of the way it works and is good for 250hp in the manual (stick) version and 0-60 in under 6 seconds. Putting an automatic transmission on an RX-8 was both idiotic and a sin because it fundamentally undermines the benefits of the engine. The engine revs to 9500 rpm and should be used, always, in that rev range because it's good for the rotor seals and delivers full power.

    • @theroyalaustralian
      @theroyalaustralian 5 месяцев назад

      Unless its a Renesis like this one.

    • @DainSmart-vm7pc
      @DainSmart-vm7pc 5 месяцев назад

      Is the rx-8 A 1.3 engine and heavy on petrol,I've always fancied one of these suicide back doors Well cool Very High reving engine , has any body else made a Wankel engine or is it only Mazda motor cars

    • @Lensman864
      @Lensman864 5 месяцев назад +7

      ​@@theroyalaustralian
      The rotary engine in all variants of the Mazda RX-8 was named Renesis so I don't understand your point.

    • @Lensman864
      @Lensman864 5 месяцев назад +2

      ​​@@DainSmart-vm7pc
      Yes, very heavy on fuel for the UK because our petrol is crazy expensive. I got about 23mpg although in the USA that's considered OK. It also, necessarily, consumes some oil in use (similar to a 2 stroke piston engine) but it's not too bad.
      Several other companies tried rotary engines including NSU, Porsche, Daimler Benz, Nissan, General Motors, Suzuki, Toyota and Norton motorcycles to name but a few. Go read the wikipedia Wankel Engine page.
      It's pronounced 'Vankel' by the way because it's a German name.

    • @LilYeshua
      @LilYeshua 5 месяцев назад +5

      Rotary engines weren't fuel efficient plus the RX7 had a large gas tank for it's size. On top of that the engine had engine oil sprayers/misters that sprayed a little oil into the combustion chambers for rotor lubrication. The owners manual stated that the engine was designed to consume one quart of engine oil every three thousand miles but they were fun.

  • @1320Jason
    @1320Jason 5 месяцев назад +5

    I agree with you 100%. Robots and VR won’t replace skilled labor. Doodly doo do!! Have a good day Ray Ray 👍🏼

    • @MonkeyJedi99
      @MonkeyJedi99 5 месяцев назад +1

      One thing they WILL do is either cut into mechanics' profit margins, or more realistically, add to the customers' bills.

  • @clifdavis9013
    @clifdavis9013 5 месяцев назад +6

    I had a similar “Doomsday for Mechanics” conversation with an EV guy not long ago. He seemed firm that the auto mechanic industry would completely die off, as everyone moved toward EV’s (not to mention he was very smug about it, as if he was happy that potentially thousands would no longer have their livelihood.) but he didn’t have much to say on the subject after I explained that there would still be mechanics, as there are still many moving wear parts on an EV, brakes, electrical systems, bearings, ball joints, etc.
    it’s amazing to me that there’s folks out there who are thrilled at the thought of people losing jobs, if it includes doing away with an item/industry that they don’t agree with.

    • @vthegoose
      @vthegoose 5 месяцев назад +2

      I assume he didn’t understand that the grid won’t be ready for that amount of draw for a couple decades?

    • @clifdavis9013
      @clifdavis9013 5 месяцев назад

      @@vthegoose Of course not. There’s only a handful of EV supporters that understand the need for infrastructure improvements. Most think that all it needs is the stroke of a lawmakers pen, and bam, everyone should have an EV charging in the driveway, A/C blowing wide open without rolling blackouts.

    • @Dan_Neely
      @Dan_Neely 5 месяцев назад

      There will be some impact from fewer wear parts needing replaced. No exhaust, no oil changes or any of the seals and gaskets needed to keep it from leaking, none of the dodads going on or through the valve cover into the head(s), with most braking being regenerative the friction brakes will last a lot longer, LED lights should last the life of the vehicle (also on newer ICE cars. Other stuff like suspension, steering, and HVAC will still be there, and everything will be even more computerized.

  • @greasee.monkey7224
    @greasee.monkey7224 5 месяцев назад

    VR will never replace us. These days it takes a technician with college level skills to diagnose and repair these vehicles. Some actually have college training, some (myself included) have learned through experience, and other have both. But a pair of goggles will never turn an untrained individual into someone with your experience or mine (28 years). It would make access to service data quicker, but we are still much needed. Great video brother! 👍👍

  • @bobnoblesjr.465
    @bobnoblesjr.465 5 месяцев назад +16

    No VR unit will ever replace the eyes and brain of a skilled mechanic.

  • @markdinardo
    @markdinardo 5 месяцев назад +8

    Ray, it is just like 'webmed' it is a great reference material, but you ultimately need someone that can analyze the data and put forth a real repair. They said it was going to replace your family doctor - see where that went...

    • @MonkeyJedi99
      @MonkeyJedi99 5 месяцев назад

      Akin to your point:
      Erasing the error codes just before bringing your car to the mechanic is like refusing to explain your symptoms to the ER doctor.

  • @pillar406
    @pillar406 5 месяцев назад +17

    Technicians gain skills and knowledge over time. A headset cannot do that. When I first started out I was slow doing electrical work but after years of learning and real world experience I know where I need to look and how to do it quickly. I have learned shortcuts over the years that's what makes a technician good. The ability to learn and grow. When the headset wearer breaks off an exhaust stud, will the headset teach them how to weld on a nut and how not to get frustrated when it happens?

    • @handyman1957
      @handyman1957 5 месяцев назад +3

      Nope, but he will probably use that $3,500 head set to weld with : 0 Scratches at a level two, deeper scratches level 3. Welding splatter - Priceless

  • @Mireck12A
    @Mireck12A 5 месяцев назад +3

    Ray, like you said in the video, check the connector, but in this case the throttlebody connector and check the pinclamps and / or wires. And or the other side at the throttle pedal. No PCM replacement required. Been there, done that ;-)

  • @shannonfamily
    @shannonfamily 3 месяца назад

    I only recently found you Ray but the reason I continue and in fact have gone back a year is because you don't just fire the parts cannon. I have been a home mechanic since I was a 63B in the US Army and fell in love with fixing things...now people just buy another and I refuse. I went off, its your diagnosing that I watch and no VR can know something is "slightly" unplugged. Anyone can replace parts, won't be fast if you aren't experienced but anyone can do it. It's firing that cannon and it being one shot one kill... that is what I strive to learn more of every day. Ironically maybe but getting a real OBD 2 computer has helped me a lot and it's also opened up a world to me that I didn't have with a code reader.

  • @DarkMessiahChronos
    @DarkMessiahChronos 5 месяцев назад +1

    As someone in an industry where we make, and use videos like this: our viewpoint is that it is a supplement to lower the barrier of entry for a new hire. It will never replace experience, there are too many "gotcha" technicalities that happen in machines, but they do reduce the burdens that the old guard have when training the new hires. I tend to give it about 2 years in the industry before a technician has enough competency under their belt to do diag work solo without getting lost in the weeds. Videos provide a refresher for old technicians, and standardized starting points for new hires.

  • @stephenross9282
    @stephenross9282 5 месяцев назад +4

    To this day as a HD mechanic for years now. I have gone to you tube to help look up things and yet to ever find a video or anything that has had the same issue I’m dealing with. They have only helped with looking at the problem a different way.

  • @jimsweeney
    @jimsweeney 5 месяцев назад +5

    Those headsets remind me of those do-it-all tools that get advertised every so often - the ones that will "replace a whole box of tools", but really turn out have a small number of very specialised uses. They'll be handy to have and use once every six months or so, but otherwise just be an expensive toy that gathers dust.

  • @Jordy-927
    @Jordy-927 5 месяцев назад +6

    I found the problem with that car as soon as you opened the door.
    The shifter only moves in one direction and it's missing a 3rd pedal.

    • @frizzlefry1921
      @frizzlefry1921 5 месяцев назад +1

      Serious problems if I do say so myself! Esp on a rotary I drove a friend's 93-94 rx7 5spd and what a car. (around 2000)

    • @Jordy-927
      @Jordy-927 5 месяцев назад

      @@frizzlefry1921 those engines love to rev. Keep them around 4500 and they are really peppy. I had a friend with a drift prepped JDM one...98ish I think. It was very fun.

    • @MattExzy
      @MattExzy 5 месяцев назад +1

      They should've just made all auto RX-8's with a 2l 4 cylinder or something. Complete mystery as to why the auto rotary exists at all.

    • @Jordy-927
      @Jordy-927 5 месяцев назад

      @@MattExzy cause people can't drive stick but want cars that should only come with one. Miata, RX8, BRZ/GT86 for example.

  • @gsettlemyre
    @gsettlemyre 5 месяцев назад

    I liked your rant and eventually a PSA! Along with your voice I’d like to add my motto, I Never get in too much of a hurry to cause or get into an accident. And believe me I had plenty of opportunities to do so with working over 30 years in the Fire & EMS service.

  • @jna466
    @jna466 5 месяцев назад

    I enjoy your videos they let me know what I can tackle my self an d what I need an actual mechanic for as a home gamer who likes to do my own work

  • @fritzwang6300
    @fritzwang6300 5 месяцев назад +5

    I agree, using AR to diagnose and repair problems is just making a Bee-line to the parts cannon. Great mechanics like yourself, and even good mechanics, always look at the big picture.
    BTW, using a damp rag to wipe the dust off that PCM instead of a quick rub with your fingers might make the lettering more visible. 😆

  • @jdub264
    @jdub264 5 месяцев назад +7

    Wouldn’t a possible repair would be to clean the PCM connectors? Humid Florida is great and corroding electrical connectors.

    • @steveo6631
      @steveo6631 5 месяцев назад +1

      @jdub264 I would at least check powers and grounds... And like you said, terminal fretting at the connectors... Check and test everything you can before calling a PCM...

  • @raymondpettersen1941
    @raymondpettersen1941 5 месяцев назад

    So fun to watch. I;ve learned so much from your videos. Hello from Norway.

  • @edgarmojica6145
    @edgarmojica6145 5 месяцев назад

    You right about that ray , great video 😁👍

  • @roxanneabbott8424
    @roxanneabbott8424 5 месяцев назад

    Cool beans, that was informative Ray!!

  • @kell8603
    @kell8603 5 месяцев назад

    I completely concur with the rant! People with no experience or the proper tools but with a fancy, digital repair manual strapped to their Noggin will in no way replace the experienced, seasoned repair technician! GO RAY GO!!

  • @tsimpson007
    @tsimpson007 5 месяцев назад

    Ray I totally agree. There will always be a need for a skilled tech to interpret and repair. I am a 71 year old retired engine builder. Someone will always have to turn a wrench. And I also agree Skynet is real.

  • @josephvantreeck2989
    @josephvantreeck2989 5 месяцев назад

    thank you

  • @kimchristensen5951
    @kimchristensen5951 5 месяцев назад

    1st time commenting, your reasoning behind technology is very sound, and accurate. Common sense is a rarity and more and more hard to find. You have an abundance of it over your 20 years of EXPERIENCE. Being 71 years old and know the value of experience for trouble shooting and problem solving. Keep up the fight. 😁

  • @bryandixon2493
    @bryandixon2493 5 месяцев назад

    I can say ray is making a great point that for sure thank you ray

  • @allenellzey5735
    @allenellzey5735 5 месяцев назад

    We used to own a 2006 of the 14:22 same car and color. Blast to drive, and handles very very well right off the showroom floor. However we had so many computer issues. So bad they pulled the computers and sent them off to Mazada in CA to be flashed and reprogrammed. Still had issues, and then an engine recall came out. Mazda ended up buying the car back. Only had it for about 6 months. The rotary engine is very smooth and loves high RPMs.

  • @hoseman1
    @hoseman1 5 месяцев назад +28

    A VR headset is never going to replace a skilled diagnostic technician like Ray, there is more than data to fixing a car

    • @wolfgangpreier9160
      @wolfgangpreier9160 5 месяцев назад

      Old cars, yes. Those with that stinking fossil fuel burning thingies in front.

    • @jabjab12
      @jabjab12 5 месяцев назад

      Not headsets AI

    • @ORRadtech
      @ORRadtech 5 месяцев назад

      Never say Never. I can actually foresee a time when AI could be combined with VR to allow the unskilled to make complicated repairs. Not next month or next year but 20 or 30 years down the road, I think there's a good possibility. Let's look at the old sitcom "Get Smart". Among other gadgets, Maxwell Smart had a shoe phone. Fantastic and unbelievable technology - no way it could ever exist, right? And yet today the technology we carry daily is orders of magnitude beyond anything that was imagined at that time. Is it really so far fetched to think 50 years from now you couldn't put on something similar to a VR headset and have the internal AI walk you through a repair?

    • @wolfgangpreier9160
      @wolfgangpreier9160 5 месяцев назад

      @@ORRadtech Look at Blade Runner. Then take a look at the Cybertruck. The future is futuristic, indeed.

  • @davecarlson4896
    @davecarlson4896 5 месяцев назад

    Yes you are right they can’t think and problem solve .👍

  • @robertnowlin2566
    @robertnowlin2566 5 месяцев назад

    I am with you a 1000%

  • @Davsoto120
    @Davsoto120 5 месяцев назад

    Im currently going to UTI and I asked chat GPT for instructions to diagnose a DTC and it gave me very thorough instructions 😂 it was a lot to read but it had step by step procedures

  • @bearing_aficionado
    @bearing_aficionado 5 месяцев назад +7

    Good day to you, Ray! Does it have a rotary car phone to go with it?🤣

  • @rwhunt99
    @rwhunt99 5 месяцев назад

    I agree, with you, it will only make things faster, and more expensive. I can't do what you do because I don't have the fancy subscriptions and equipment for just an occasional repair.

  • @waynejennison5290
    @waynejennison5290 5 месяцев назад +2

    Hi Ray, I totally agree with you about the VR rubbish, if my car needs work then I will take it to some one like yourself to diagnose and repair for peace of mind. I do watch a lot of channels like yours such as Flying Sparks Garage, Junkyard Digs and Diesel Creek and have learnt a heck of alot on how to fix vehicles both Diesel and Gasoline/Petrol, but I only use the knowledge when restoring a vehicle once restored I will then take said vehicle to a trusted mechanic to make sure everything is working properly. VR is garbage and should only be used for gaming, the real world is a better place to be. Have a great day mate and love Lauren's wife unit channel also.

  • @danielhylton4675
    @danielhylton4675 5 месяцев назад

    I watched you DIAGNOSE that Vdub beeetle pretty slick. Electrical drives me nutz to figure out but you nailed it...quick too~!

  • @ctbhaley
    @ctbhaley 5 месяцев назад +1

    Really loved your rant. I was working in the automotive field when OBD was being replaced by OBDII and from my experience since then all OBDII has done is piss off Back Yard Bob. Amateur mechanics have forgotten how to properly troubleshoot. When I was a service writer, we had guys who I called "shopping cart diagnosticians" which was basically a tech that would check the codes and rather than troubleshoot and diagnose what was broken, he would simply fill a shopping cart with parts until one fixed the issue. I had one guy who was so notorious for this we finally had to put a stop to it because if a customer requests an old part that we recommended they replace, and the part wasn't bad, we would likely lose a lawsuit. Part of why I like your videos Ray, is how thorough you troubleshoot. I'm well aware that your experience would likely get you through some of these issues quicker, but I like that, for the sake of the video and entertainment, you go through the entire process of proving a theory. I'll take it a step further to make my point. I'm a member of a few FB groups and forums and daily, someone will post "CEL came on and I got xxxx code, what do you think it is?" It never fails there will be 10 responses of people saying change this or that. Typically, I'll give them a few possibilities of the root of the issue along with the process to narrow it down. The biggest reason for that is, new doesn't mean good, it just means unused and clean. There is almost nothing worse than assuming a part is bad and going through the labor to change it only to find out either the old one is good, and you still have the issue, or worse the new part is bad and now you have 2 issues both causing the same symptom. Not everyone loves their job enough to do it twice. (I quote that from you all the time BTW).
    Long story short, I agree with you 100%. AI or VR isn't replacing anything or anyone, it's just another tool that in the right hands will improve efficiency, but in the wrong hands will just cost more, which is exactly what OBDII scanners did and in some cases still do.

    • @KHALABEEB
      @KHALABEEB 5 месяцев назад

      Long story short🤣👍

  • @bulldogshouse9970
    @bulldogshouse9970 5 месяцев назад

    Much enjoyed the video keep up the great work

  • @nlu17
    @nlu17 5 месяцев назад

    Been waiting for this video for a minute,

  • @jeggleston1651
    @jeggleston1651 5 месяцев назад

    Funny that you mentioned the smoke machine again today. I just recently viewed the video where you showed the failure of a vacuum brake booster, and it went undetected based on where the smoke machine is often connected. Last week, i was trying to diagnose a lambda issue, because my car failed an emissions inspection (lambda value too high, meaning that the car is running lean.) I hooked the smoke machine up to the hose that comes from the brake booster to the intake. I didn't see smoke. Tonight, I reconnected the machine to the intake air hose and find that it was leaking between the air filter box and the throttle body, right at the throttle body end of the hose. I relaxed the hose clamps, reset the learned values and checked the lambda. It should pass now.

  • @johnchaffin5494
    @johnchaffin5494 5 месяцев назад

    Before I retired from being a mechanic the best and only new tool that was worth it's weight in gold was ratcheting wrenches. When they first started putting computers in vehicles my boss expected me to buy a computer diagnosis tool for each brand of car...lol...wasn't going to happen. Glad they made one diagnosis tool for all.

  • @chrischallacombe3477
    @chrischallacombe3477 5 месяцев назад

    RAY!! I think your job is safe brother!! Cheers!

  • @templeofdooom
    @templeofdooom 5 месяцев назад

    I used RUclips to change a timing belt and water pump on my 2008 Hyundai Elantra. Took 3 hours and worked great afterwards. If I didn't have the RUclips video I would not have attempted to change a timing belt. There are however bigger jobs like transmission work or engine rebuild that I would never even try to do no matter how many RUclips videos there are.

  • @peterbenson3776
    @peterbenson3776 5 месяцев назад +1

    A VR couldnt be half as insightful and entertaining as Rainman Ray!!!

  • @dmulkearns
    @dmulkearns 5 месяцев назад

    Ray, I have watched a few other mechanics on RUclips talk about VR and I agree with your. IT will not replace a real mechanic.
    I also agree that watching a RUclips video does not accurately Diagnose a problem.
    I have used your videos to see how to do something that I have to do like replace and alternator or battery etc... but VR can't diagnose a real problem. Technology like your scanner points you to POSSIBLE issues, many times the most likely issue, but you The Trained Technician have to go through the steps and find the problem, sometimes the technology helps but you are right it cant see the broken connector, the frayed wires, the wrong part used, etc.... I personally would not go to a Garage where I saw the tech wearing VR googles, unless I know the Tech is also a top notch mechanic.

  • @justinferguson5451
    @justinferguson5451 5 месяцев назад

    I loved the VR section. I had to correct someone’s bad information on Facebook. Some dude said “you NEED a super special socket to change plugs on a ram 5.7 gas engine” I was like what special socket I done the same job with a regular 5/8 plug socket. So I looked it up it’s real a set of swivel socket’s constructed of a plug socket, universal, and extension. I said I’m sure it’s nice and cuts down on dropped sockets but I don’t NEED IT and I’m not spending $40 on a set of sockets when I have the same stuff already paid for in a box

  • @jamesblackwell8121
    @jamesblackwell8121 5 месяцев назад +3

    Agree with all of Ray's points in the video. AI will likely only be an assistant at least in the near future. The AR/VR headsets are at most a convenience right now.

  • @Whipkick2
    @Whipkick2 5 месяцев назад

    I use augumented reality in civil engineering. This usefully overlays the design in the real world. So when talking to designers, contractors, about progress, I can pull in people anywhere in the world to be on site with me. I can show progress against design, and discuss where design changes are needed. In small spaces where one person can go, you take all audience with you.

  • @JW-xn9fj
    @JW-xn9fj 5 месяцев назад

    Just had a classic example of this Ray. ABS light on, scan tool showed faulty rear right sensor.
    Nope. Something with four legs and sharp teeth had chewed through part of the wiring loom.

  • @struckoffdoc88
    @struckoffdoc88 5 месяцев назад

    Had a company try to sell a “decision support diagnosis”package to GB National Health Service. It could diagnose appendicitis better than junior doctors and similar to the senior staff.
    Took twice as long and 40 years later there still isn’t a machine to take your appendix out unless there is a human pulling the levers.

  • @eifionsanders3254
    @eifionsanders3254 5 месяцев назад

    I remember an old NSU (50 years ago I was 18yo) witch had a rotary engine that an older couple had and was always having some issues, I was working as a chef in their hotel at the time, they took me for a drive because I had spent many school years helping my uncle in his garage and knew a little about engines. They didn’t get to 50 mph and said that they never go much over 40 mph, and always drive very gently and their car didn’t like it at all, I told them that a rotary engine loves and should be used like a racing car and needs to be driven at higher revs in each gear, I drove it part of the way back to the hotel to show them what the car likes to be driven, she just sat there very quietly while I was showing them, he then drove it harder than they used too and was surprised how different the car was driving, he then dropped me back at work and they drove to Birmingham for a couple of days and when they came home they said that they now loved the car’s performance and was also cheaper on fuel than it used to be, I said that it’s not dragging it weight around anymore.
    Before I gave them that information the car was in the mechanics workshop at least once every two weeks, but after that it only went in for its regular servicing and oil change.

  • @koolaide02360
    @koolaide02360 5 месяцев назад +7

    VR will be like every other tool. It will enhance the ability of the person using it, but it won't make someone better without the base knowledge to apply it.

    • @rickvandusen9271
      @rickvandusen9271 5 месяцев назад

      Same principle as, “College doesn’t make you smart.” (Foregoing rant here about “woke”.) College, VR, Snap-On, computers, are all merely tools which can leverage the smarts of the smart person (and can be disastrous in the hands of an idiot).

    • @Dan_Neely
      @Dan_Neely 5 месяцев назад

      The real place will be for the DIYer, with service guides showing arrows to all the hidden fasteners, and then animating how to contort parts in and out of tight spaces, while watching to make sure all the checklist steps get done.

  • @joepanico6480
    @joepanico6480 5 месяцев назад +3

    Actually, I heard a funny report about the consequences of VR helmets: more insurance claims for damage to homes. Seems people gesticulate a little too much while absorbed into the VR world thus breaking lamps, tv's, furniture especially when using golf clubs, bats, etc.
    I like your commentary. VR has a place but it isn't to replace.

  • @alexandermckay8594
    @alexandermckay8594 5 месяцев назад +1

    Boeing has had those VR sets on the line for years. Extremely handy for building wiring harnesses but it won't catch things like bolts missing in a door.

  • @joemalone9380
    @joemalone9380 5 месяцев назад

    thank you for everything in 2023. best wishes for 2024.

  • @robertthegrape2192
    @robertthegrape2192 5 месяцев назад +1

    You are correct!

  • @bruceheadley7191
    @bruceheadley7191 5 месяцев назад

    I bought a Chevy Trailblazer and had some recall notices after a year or so.
    I was floored that all of the recalls were firmware upgrades & patches and were performed simply by plugging a cable in. I think I received 3 notices by mail (critical) and there were 6 minor recalls.

  • @chrisbutler5834
    @chrisbutler5834 5 месяцев назад

    Hey Raymond That may be ar headsets The reason I say that cause if you can see through the lens and still see the cartheir, augmented reality and people do use them doctors and other professions. And they help a lot.
    And sorry I've got a lot of help from RUclips. Love your show in your mechanic shop. Have a nice day.

  • @nkgagne
    @nkgagne 5 месяцев назад +1

    I normally agree with your diagnosis but this time, I question going right to the PCM. The “throttle control module” to me speaks to the electronic throttle body. It could easily be gummed up, stripped out, or have a bad connection, so I would first try to thoroughly inspect the throttle body/actuator and its wiring before firing the proverbial parts cannon.

  • @Vax505
    @Vax505 5 месяцев назад +8

    Who is going to want to strap a warm screen to their face in Florida to do diagnostics.

  • @phillipw2493
    @phillipw2493 5 месяцев назад

    Ppl do not understand that like you said you still have to get your hands literary dirty to fix or diagnose a problem.....way to go Ray.... be positive about it and look at e cars....nice input

  • @craigquann
    @craigquann 5 месяцев назад

    I want one of these. I don't care if the engine is worn out, so long as it's rebuildable. Definitely would do the oil injection pump bypass so it has a stand alone sump separate from the injection oil. And probably a few other goodies (minor mods) but a nice clean car otherwise. Nor even picky over color. But absolutely has to be a manual.

  • @Ramcharger85
    @Ramcharger85 5 месяцев назад

    Nice RX8. ❤

  • @vawlkus
    @vawlkus 5 месяцев назад

    you missed something about the AR goggles Ray.
    The goggles have a camera, so they can use image recognition to highlight what that camera sees. Instead of you needing to search for that leak, the goggles will detect it, and point it out, so you can see it immediately and start tracking it back to it's source.
    You are still right: technicians are NOT going away because of this tech, and it will be something to help identify problems, and even help harder to spot things. Eventually, they'll be compact enough to wear light regular glasses, but for now, they are bulky first steps only. Useful, but not must have items.

  • @bstory3196
    @bstory3196 5 месяцев назад

    OLD SCHOOL hands on are always going to be the best

  • @robertabramson5592
    @robertabramson5592 5 месяцев назад

    Lol, no matter what they come up with as long as there are vehicles, mechanics will always be needed.

  • @billhusted1753
    @billhusted1753 5 месяцев назад

    Ray, you did an amazing job explaining what it is to be a mechanic. Robots may be able to build a car, but they will never repair them. I forget, did you mention bolts that can't be reomoved because a 3inch bolt was used where a 2 inch should have been?

  • @martind12
    @martind12 5 месяцев назад

    Used to have an RX8 (UK Manual version) - scarily good fun but suffered from apex seal failure on the engine

  • @stevenakn1
    @stevenakn1 5 месяцев назад

    I'd get hurt wearing VR goggles. Great video Ray

  • @sufoj
    @sufoj 4 месяца назад

    Automatic RX-8's hurt my soul. Shifting 6 gears at 9500RPM is where it's at with these. I had both a Series 1 and Series 2, so much fun to drive and get 9 MPG in. These really need a specialized mechanic. The ignition systems are so touchy, and using aftermarket coil packs or wires causes a lot of issues, but people do because the OEM's are very pricey. But it is always more costly to replace a second time.

  • @gasselectric
    @gasselectric 5 месяцев назад +4

    Preach it ray

  • @fyfo1432
    @fyfo1432 5 месяцев назад

    i agree with you ,i remember when you could fix with farmer wire which would not work today. a tool is a tool to help but does not make the mechanic.

  • @Mech7.3
    @Mech7.3 5 месяцев назад +1

    Good point Ray on VR headset. What about techs working on heavy equipment and other vehicles and equipment. As long as there are vehicles on the road there will always be the need for technicians.

  • @stevenmiller2837
    @stevenmiller2837 5 месяцев назад

    Ray, VR is extremely useful for repairing virtual cars.

  • @yunus_aros
    @yunus_aros 5 месяцев назад

    You’re correct in your assessment, as far as I am thinking. In order for it to work, at least Artificial Intelligence and robotics needs to be combined with such technology and we would still need a technician in place.

  • @robford41984
    @robford41984 5 месяцев назад

    I will agree with you about the VR I think the Apple thing is a nice TOOL it will help if you’re working with wiring or trying to trouble shoot and keep needing to look things up, but it’s not going to replace anyone because people today are scared to touch things to fix them.

  • @carlevans7966
    @carlevans7966 5 месяцев назад

    Agreed

  • @MiataChannel
    @MiataChannel 5 месяцев назад

    Actually the NC Miata is an updated, smaller, piston engine RX-8. The 2006-2015 Miata is based off the RX-8 chassis and shares a lot of parts with it.

  • @oldshep2695
    @oldshep2695 5 месяцев назад

    Agreed.

  • @Brettsharplpn
    @Brettsharplpn 5 месяцев назад

    The vr glasses are a monitor with sensors to see movements. Not ai... You are correct. Hands on stuff will be hard to automate. Imagine replacing nurses, electricians, etc. The information side is one thing the physical side quite another.

  • @Flies2FLL
    @Flies2FLL 5 месяцев назад

    Similar thing in aviation. New pilots learn on flat panel displays (EFIS) in Cessna's and Pipers these days, and few learn the old "steam gauges". Their attitude is that "Our students will go straight into a jet with EFIS, and will likely never see the old system, so why should they learn it?
    Famous last words. The old stuff was difficult to interpret, so you learned to determine your position in your mind rather than simply look on the screen. That built situational awareness; The new training planes do not build this sufficiently in my opinion. EFIS should only be used in professional cockpits, not in training planes!
    Great video!

  • @kevincurry4735
    @kevincurry4735 5 месяцев назад +1

    Happy Thursday Ray. Hopefully there is no EMP event while linking up to the Satellite 😎.

  • @geraldh.6686
    @geraldh.6686 5 месяцев назад

    Don’t worry, your job is about as simple as it comes, you won’t be replaced by technology

  • @dustinshadle732
    @dustinshadle732 5 месяцев назад

    I can see VR in the classrooms for training and introduction to training and new concepts, putting you inside an engine or module to show you how is suppaes to work. When cell phone came out, everyone started losing their memories of even the most common numbers for us to call. So it has its place in learning, but not yet in the shop, especially with all of the nasty that can happen in the shop environment.

  • @TAKIZAWAYAMASHITA
    @TAKIZAWAYAMASHITA 5 месяцев назад

    for the vr stuff i can see it increase productiveity for veteran mechanics as they would have whatever relevant info in their face instead of leaving to find a laptop etc

  • @bbrnkyle74
    @bbrnkyle74 5 месяцев назад

    Sounds like VR is gonna be the WOPR of the automotive industry!! "Would you like to play a game?"🤣😂😂🤣

  • @imrf
    @imrf 5 месяцев назад

    When you said you might have to get your head in this little hole here, I couldn't help to think that, that dude has already accomplished that.

  • @bobby9195
    @bobby9195 5 месяцев назад

    Good morning Mr Ray hope y'all have a wonderful day

  • @jstowe56
    @jstowe56 5 месяцев назад

    in terms of the headsets, yes everything you say i agree with, as somebody who owns a oculus/meta quest 3 (also has a color pass through mode) it is entertainment first (mostly) and a tool second. Yes there are ways to use it as a tool, there are 3d modeling programs that let you model basically a hologram or trace out real world objects. It is a different way of accessing the same info or interacting with said info. Love the video, Keep it up!

  • @daviddettmar3314
    @daviddettmar3314 5 месяцев назад +1

    i agree with you 100% Ray

  • @stevenclaeys6252
    @stevenclaeys6252 5 месяцев назад

    I wonder what Eric O 's opinion will be about the VR Headsets ? Or Maybe what Pine Hollow has to add to that concept. Thank you for another great video. Stay safe out there. Cheers

  • @thewausaudude
    @thewausaudude 5 месяцев назад

    VR might be handy in providing a display at a glance so you don’t have to walk back to take another look, but it won’t replace the skill and experience needed to solve problems. Other than having access to information on the spot it’s no different than what we’ve had for several years now.

  • @martinwilliams1784
    @martinwilliams1784 5 месяцев назад

    As a computer person I love the first step as clear the code and see if it came back😊

  • @jameslang6141
    @jameslang6141 5 месяцев назад

    Ray, no AI could replace what you do. It takes a trained mechanic to interpret the data you get from your scan tool. You always explain that that something is 'A' problem but not necessarily 'THE' problem and AI can't do that. An experienced person such as yourself knows what to ignore because it may just be a symptom of the core problem and that's beyond the ability of AI. At best, It's just a tool that might give you some info or leads to follow up on but you know what's relevant or not. Keep doing what you do and you are absolutely correct that AI is not going to replace you.

  • @petes7796
    @petes7796 5 месяцев назад

    I’m a truck driver I’m not afraid of losing my job because there is no way I could drive a tractor-trailer around into a city or a lot of rural tight roads😊