Is Patrick Mahomes or Joe Burrow the better quarterback? | NFL | UNDISPUTED
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2023
- Kansas City Chiefs QB Patrick Mahomes was ranked No. 1 overall on the Top 100 NFL players list, while Cincinnati Bengals QB Joe Burrow landed in the No. 4 spot. Skip Bayless, Richard Sherman and Keyshawn Johnson debate whether they would have Mahomes or Burrow as their QB.
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🤔💬Skip is on the money If they swapped teams a Burrow the better quarterback Mahomes is a product of andy reid's go go gadget system😳😳😳 Plug any quarterback in Andy Reid's system and they will do good. Mahomes cannot sit in the pocket and throw the football If you study his film you will see that Ninety percent of his passes are our gadget plays He cannot sit in the pocket and stare down the barrel and let one go
Skip is right about boyd and higgins. they are very good at best they wouldnt get numbers anywhere else
Show sucks not the same Skip being too fake and nice you can tell
@@courtneymiller2680yea ok 🤡
@@PoeticMenace_ It's true you know that deep down inside he is all hype
I think the guy with multiple SB’s, MVPs and a ACTUAL proven winner is the best
I mean Mahomes is the best quarterback in the NFL.
Especially with less recievers
You can't say burrow isn't a proven winner. He's won it all at every level but the sb, and that'll happen before his career is over.
@@thedude-nf1ufso he isn’t a proven winner 😂
I know right!!
As a Raiders fan this question is very disrespectful to Mahomes. Mahomes is in his own tier of Elite
He's not in his own tier. He's got a great coach, great TE, great O line, and the green light to play off script. Many coaches don't allow off script throws. Mahomes is great, no doubt....but the hype train is a bit much. If Mahomes were on the Giants or Texans, he'd be a good QB with no rings.
If Tom Brady was on the Texans in his prime he wouldn’t win with them
@@B3GINNERstop the goofy hate
@@B3GINNERI hate how fans like you try to use hypothetical situations to dismiss an athletes greatness, fans like you know you can’t argue against the numbers, performances or accolades so you use hypotheticals to try to justify if a players overrated smh
@@Juntao1989how is that goofy hate when it's true?
Mahomes had the best statistical start of all time, and then _lost Tyreek_ , and then went on to have literally the best quarterback season of all time.
Mahomes had a better year when he threw 50 tds in 2018 lol this wasn’t the best qb year ever
@@jakemarez1 MVP, Superbowl MVP, #1 seed, most offensive yards record in a season.
That's the best season any QB has ever had.
@@jaycehu gotta be no older than 12😂
@@landondahmen8644 so name them, since you're so close to your deathbed
are yall arguing just to argue? the problem is he is not better than himself so clear Burrow is the better QB?
Everyone is forgetting about the 13 second drive against the bills in that amazing afc game
Um if Tyreek isn't there it probably doesn't happen. Be real
@@513hook513 be real about what. And this isn't about Tyreek hill. It's about mahomes and his legacy. Of course Tyreek hill isn't there now . He is setting other records present day . But that game is something to look BACK on in his career. That's the point
Successfully using the available weapons is EXACTLY what the best quarterbacks do. Travis Kelce was part of it too. Let’s also remember there was a time out available, which is a combination of coaching and execution. Mahomes was down 24-0 in a playoff game and personally scrambled/ran 28 yards through five defenders to score the go-ahead touchdown just before HALFTIME against the Texans. That’s greatness. Burrow hasn’t shown the ability to do this.
Skip lost me with this 1
It’s funny af that Shannon left and skip just brought in a new cast of dudes that end up being like “man this old mfka just be saying whatever” 😂
Yeah Shannon later became good at just hearing the bs and let it marinate .. they can’t keep just making his arguments look stupid or the show gonna be cringy
@@Lifeofalexp1 I actually think it's pretty funny that they instantly call out skip on his blasphemy without hesitation
Money talks.
That’s why its so entertaining. Skip says the dummest things ever and anyone who debates and makes him look like a fool becomes the hero!
You can't have a show where they agree on everything
LMAO sherm and key roasting the current modern pro bowl format 💀💀😂😂 so true
Go jets SUPERBOWL champs 2024
It's all facts ,the pro bowl has been a joke for the past 7 years if more
@@reggiemccathern4925it definitely has but the selection process got worse only the last couple years. Getting picked was still an honor even if the game itself was a joke. Now they're letting backups in there who barely played.
@@Businessman2231everybody got a plan before they get hit.. Chiefs Suuwhoop
No QB in recent memory has won a superbowl without a top 10 defense EXCEPT for Patrick Mahomes. His team's defense has ranked consistently among the bottom of the league. This guy is well on his way to becoming the best to ever do it.
@uddipansarma9547 bradys whole super bowl winning career he has top 10 defenses though. So he didnt have it a couple of times, and?
@@uddipansarma9547 His defense came to play in that Super Bowl though.
I mean he does have Andy Reid and some killer weapons on offense though.
@@STEALTTH7yeah but he is the killer weapon 😂😂😂
"His team's defense has ranked consistently among the bottom of the league."
Not true. In 2018 it was near the best, and in 2020 was average, and similar to the Bucs that year.
Sherm and Key are great additions to the show. Hard to beat the goat Shannon, but this is a power team. Love the airtime these men are getting.
shannon was terrible.
@@Chrism7178you are brainedead
this is like watching the JV team..the numbers will show them getting about half the viewership
@@mississippibilly_half the viewership sure due to fanboys not watching just because shannon left. But the show is better now than it had been over the last 5 yrs
Huh? Burrow has won the division BOTH of his full seasons and this idiot just said he’s never won it…while neither of the other two corrected him. It’s a clown show.
I like how when skip went to talk about how bad Sherm's qb played, he interjected and said "our qb doesn't play defense". Respect to him for taking accountability.
Skip wasn’t wrong tho
He coulda thrown Jimmy G under the bus
@@OakTownBizz-zm8rxJ G was winning that game until the refs let the chiefs bash him on the head
I like that too. Richard didn't throw his QB under the bus. He was quick with his comment. I'm sure he practiced what he would say if asked that question
@@ShaunHensley Im a 9er fan, Jimmy G missed a wide open TD pass that would've put the game out of reach. we were up 10 with 6 minutes to play
I’m still wondering how Patrick Mahomes threw 45 TDs with no WR making the pro bowl
Everyone is wide open especially Kelce nobody tries to cover him since he been in the league.
@@5th.dimensionalthat must be it
@@5th.dimensionalkelce really didn't do a lot after the bye week. Mahomes just throw it around. Kelce isn't always open.
Because half his O Line were pro bowlers.
@@5th.dimensionallies
Keyshawn and Skip chemistry unmatched!
Facts. You can tell this is the biggest versus on the show. That's good
Unmatched.. um Shannon might have something to say abt that
Bro Keyshawn said Burrow hasn’t even won his division when Burrow has won his division every single year he’s played 😂 😂 💀
Burrow ,Allen and Herbert are all very good. But Maholms is once in a lifetime generational talent. Every game is a potential masterpiece performance. Just enjoy the moments and say "how did he do that".
No mention of Trevor Lawrence? Wildin
I say that all the time with the other qbs. It’s not a one person team
Bro Burrow has beat Mahomes 3/4 times
@@JoeyVoland he still has 0 superbowls,0 mvps😭😭 yet mahomeboy has 2 superbowls 2 reg season mvps 2 superbowl mvps🐐 tell burrow too get something lmaooo
Key is a true receiver. He’s probably the only person I’ve seen mention how Mahomes was protecting Tyreek from getting popped. It was about ball placement. Finally someone goes deeper than just a int.
Keyshawn Johnson used magnetic gloves his whole nfl career
Patrick through it up because he had to. I cant say if that was intentional to protect Tyreek or not,it definitely fluttered. But to stand in the pocket and not flinch,just to get that pass off deserves credit😅
Trite? How so? Keys point on ball placement is quite original.
@@STREETJEevery receiver does actually
That's a lie
Keyshawn is awesome. ESPN did not let this man fully expose his talent. Love hearing him!
Facts. Key is one of the few guys that talks like he actually played.
Just made the same comment then saw yours. Had no idea he was gonna be this good!
ESPN is losing money and Keyshawn had a massive extension that was too expensive for them to have
@chuy22288 having hired people like jemele hill & malika andrews has/is still hurting espn.
Dude being him on this show!
Why is this a question it’s undoubtedly Pat Mahomes
Good to see Richard and Skip coexist on Skips platform also good to see Keyshawn aint let espn stop him from working. I love his commentary
Hating on LeBron is actually possible… Skip jumping thru hopes trying to find ways to hate on Mahomes.
Nah the LeBron hates is crazy. It’s August
But yeah Skip has to work overtime to find ways to hate Mahomes😂
Hating on lebron is even dumber
The fact you have to make your point while speaking Lebron name shows how pathetic you actually are
@@aidanmurphy8286facts
Underrated talking point by Sherman no one mentions which is that Pat has played the best Defense in the league in his superbowls
Jalen Hurts played out of his mind minus one fumble and it cost him the Super Bowl, that's how good Mahomes is. You can't mess up while making plays.
@@ianburns3358Jalen hurt’s fumble didn’t lose the game, the defense in the second half lost the game
Sometimes trying to debate a "STUPID" topic just leaves YOU looking foolish.. Come on Skip ! There no debate here
Yeah, two teams out there!
That's why I kept saying that the Eagles' top defense didn't matter in the Super Bowl last season. I remembered what people said about the Niners (all of the same exact talking points). Mahomes was still able to beat them
Skip just dying on that hill 😂
Shermman is so articulate he's not just loud he knows what he' s talking about
It’s good to see Skip making the exact same arguments he did with Shannon for 7 years
He’s an idiot.
Shoot... as a Chiefs fan. Skip is the single reason I like the ex bronco Sharpe. His hate on Mahomes forces his co host(s) to defend Mahomes. He has the same hate for LeBron. It's beyond silly.
He has four points in every sport and shoe horns which ever one he needs into any debate. He'd rather lose his wife than an argument. But I don't think K.J. is going to let him get away with it.
@@derekreed4910it’s tv dumbo. No conflict kills debate. Skip will take a position just for argument sake
Yup, skip still sucks.
How is this even a comparison? Patrick’s resume speaks for itself
Skip a hater 🤦🏾♂️😂
So did Brady's but all we heard since Mahomes started playing that he is better than Brady
Ke & Sherm wont go for the bs skip blurts out they call it out & shut it down immediately 😂 i love it
You realize Skip partly coaches them to do this ? Debate show, not agreement show
I'm a Chiefs fan of more than 30 years, Mahomes is just different. He's going to be the goat one day
Mahomes 1
Burrow 3
@@JoeyVol hilarious. Clearly you're not talking about super bowl wins or MVP awards
Everyday Sherman is smiling, smiling all the way to the bank
Lol smoking Skip pac on the way 😂😂
He’s filthy rich before this job
@@maxjackson4066 absolutely true
Lmao I like that he’s like that though. Happy guy good personality
Truly the most consistent part of the show returns. You can present all of the facts and stats and eye tests you want and Skip will never admit the truth on this topic lmao
😂😂😂. Exactly!
Classic skip! 😂😂
Part of the show bud. If everyone just agrees and there is no debate, you wouldn't watch. Skip understands ratings and plays the bad guy on purpose.
@@12ollin47sthe thing with debate is there has to be a kernel of truth to both sides or it’s going to just get rubber stamped and boring. Skips takes like this are so dumb I just don’t listen to them and skip that part
@@danielcavanagh6411 except, here you are watching. Getting skip paid just as planned.
I really like keyshawn and Richard. They are great at keeping your attention and interest. They're both so animated and emotional that it's fun to watch
They did this same thing with Brady his whole career. “Is Brady or manning better” “is Brady or Bree’s better” “is Brady or rodgers better”. What’s the common denominator? Now it was “Allen or Mahomes” and “burrow vs Mahomes” Mahomes is levels and levels above the entire league
PAT JUST HAD THE GREATEST SEASON EVER!!! PASSING LEADER,MVP, SUPER BOWL MVP, WON EVERY GAME IN THE PLAYOFFS ON ONE LEG!!
It wasn't the best year for qb in nfl history by far. Pat hasn't touched Tom best year or peytons
@@russellpenoyer8180by far? 😂😂
@@russellpenoyer8180there is no argument or case for any other qb season. Pat just had the greatest (by far). Hope you enjoyed witnessing history!
@@jordanwalters5875You’re wrong, hope you educate yourself before you speak next time…
Best season for a qb by FAR its not even close
This why I love Skip he doesn’t care what you say he stand on what he says 😂‼️
Going all the way back to College ball is embarrassing for Skip 😂😂😂
How could ESPN let Keyshawn go. He is so good.
Did he actually say that Burrow hasn’t won his division??? Good grief
@@rnt77and that why they let him GO!😂 He doesn’t know his facts!
This was like a WWE handicap match. KJ & Sherm were the Dudley Boyz and Skip was Mae Young. Put him right through the table 😂
LMFAO...not Mae😂😂😂
😂😂😂 the Mae Young reference 🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂
Bubba Ray staring into the distance after destruction 😂😂😂
KJ!!!!!!! GET THE TABLE!!!!
There is a significant distance between Mahomes and any other quaterback in the NFL
The distance of two Lombardis, two MVPs and two Super Bowl MVPs
Nope!
he is the best but its a few guys hot on his trail such as Hurts Burrow and Allen. Purdy Trevor Tua and Lamar are my favorites tho
@@trackspeed1Mahomes has more rings, more Super bowl appearances, and more MVPs than all of those guys COMBINED. Doesn't sound like they're "hot on his trail" to me.
@@BryonLetterman Reddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd Kingdommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm! Thx u!
@@KingDerek58he has Andy Reid, Tyreek Hill, Kelce, Creed Humphrey, and Joe Thuney. … Burrow has a winning record against him, and Jimmy G played much worst than Stafford in Joe Burrow’s SB. Mahomes’s O Line also played LEVELS better than Burrows O Line in SB 2022 vs 2021.
They are learning to make more concise points and give air space for each other to have truly good debates. Show continues to get better. 🎉
That's only cause playmaker wasn't there lol. It'll take a little for all 4 to find their groove
I lowkey hate how good this show is already. Skip has been relevant for a reason Damn
@@thekillabum Facts! 😂
@@2rich4u41 😂😂Skip ain’t going nowhere!
There is that new overused word again "concise"🙄
The way they said that Mahomes has played against the #1 defense all three times he's been to the superbowl and diced up the defense 2/3 times is wild.
The Bucs did not have the number 1 defense when the Chiefs met them in the SB.
@@SeanFicationthey certainly had the best front 7. Mahomes was still the best player on the field that nights.
Burrow is QB2 but Mahomes is just far ahead of any other QB in the NFL. Hes probably the most talented QB to ever play.
yeah dude has elite passing skills but also is elite in escapability, its hard to sack this dude he is underrated as a scrambler also, he can pretty much do it all
Herbert > Burrow.
maybe he is actually but we won't know until the chargers get good coaching@@Chrism7178
Any debate arguing a QB is better is obviously for views. Say Mahomes is 100, burrow and Allen are like 75, Herbert is maybe 70 and it goes down from there. That’s how far ahead Mahomes is
Drugs. If you actually watch film. Herbert is 110. Has better arm IQ than every QB you listed.@@trevor3575
It's not an argument, I think even Burrow would agree that Mahomes is the undisputed best QB in the league. Burrow gotta do a lot of work to get there. He's two+ behind on about every achievement available to a QB and team.
He even said it early this summer lpl
There isn’t anything burrow can do. Mahomes is a talent that is 1 of 1
Burrow is my cousin, he hates mahomes. 😂😅😂...jk
You are partially right but Mahomes did get into the league 3 years before Joey and Joey went to a team that had finished dead last and had a 2-14 record the season before. When Mahomes got to KC they had just won their division and had gone 12-4. KC was picking at 10 cause they traded with Buffalo. So Mahomes has been in the league 3 years longer then Burrow and also went to a much better all around team. I don't think people understand what Burrow has done for the bengals because it all happened so quickly.
He did say it earlier this summer.
do you know how hard it is to just make it to the superbowl, much less wnning it. some players never even make it to the superbowl in their entire 10-15 year nfl career. mahomes just came into the league 5 years and already has WON 2 superbowl! That’s such an amazing feat
6 years bro. Almost 7. And Burrow has beat him 3/4 times
@@JoeyVol only thing matters is super bowl rings not how many times you lost to a team in a regular season game
Was a long time I enjoyed an "Undisputed" video as much as this one... this mix of people so far so good
Richard Sherman is funny asf😂😂😂😂I like his face expressions 😂😂😂
Great job Sherm! You killed it. Showing a side that brings a certain freshness back to the show. Even made Skip look good!
He (Skip) has STILL "Never seen anything like it!!!!"......before....
Another great segment!
If the Chiefs didn't have Mahomes, none of this success the last several years would have even been possible. We had a great team around the QB then, meaning Smith, but we didn't have a truly great QB. And that's basically the most important big piece you can have.
Look at all the QBs that Reid had, before Mahomes only one Qb took him the the super bowl and that was Donovan mcnabb and they didn’t even win the game. Bro was ringless until Mahomes took over smith job, he made the chiefs better
@@chuyozuna2398 Mahomes was the final and most important missing piece to this team
@@chuyozuna2398Mahomes is a great player but stop disrespecting Andy Reid. He was already a very good coach before Mahomes. Most coaches don’t even have the success you tried to down play.
Ouch so is this what the vikings been missing?
He came in with the best TE and wr in the league
6:43. Let's acknowledge and give big respect to Richard Sherman for not throwing Jimmy G under the bus even when Skip was leading him onto it. It would have been a real easy thing for him to say in that moment but, he refused to put the blame of Super Bowl 54 on Jimmy G. A real man.
^ Underrated comment 👏👏
Doesn't have to throw him under the bus reality is reality. Not a niners fan but kaepernick came a lot closer to winning it all for them then Jimmy did
@@noahrodriguez8893a fact few wanna discuss like ray Lewis definitely committed a penalty and things look real different if kap wins that ring 😂
I’m a 49er fan and i will always appreciate Sherm man
Skip is a heel. He knows he is wrong but says stuff to be controversial. That's the premise of his shows.
Key "How the he'll did Shannon do this 7 years"
Sherm "Lots of Black & Milds and Hennessy"
Well Skip is back to being Skip
That’s why people watch him and go to work with him. He’s a KING maker.
@@aaronarguelles8322 Thats also why ppl like Jenny and Shannon left Skip
@@Soldier979wether you like it or not they are both much more popular for having worked with skip even if he drove them away in the end
@@bryceaugust3329that’s what these guys don’t understand. They’re gonna understand it when Shannon gets on first take. Someone has to be the villain or the disliked because it makes the other or others more likeable. Skip has perfectly accepted that role on every show. Which built Stephen A and built Shannon. Shannon or Stephen are gonna have to become the villian or the disliked.
@@aaronarguelles8322no
This show is going to be AMAZING Skip did a great job picking his team🔥
yes it will be awesome - however Skip n shannon were just - mean to be
No
@@arieslove6144obviously not lol .....people said that about skip and Stephen A.....it's a new era man
And to be fair, skip is the weakest link. First Take and SAS surpassed him and he couldn’t do a show for 2 months on his own without bigger personalities carrying him. Skip is a total fraud.
Skip has to be there just to get dunked on for bad takes
Yo where was Irvin today! I love this show man. Keep on keeping on my brothers.
Man imma miss that "don't do dat skip" 😂
Skip’s pumping Burrow because he misses Tom 💔
He fears Mahomes since he’s a threat to his boyfriend Brady’s legacy💯
Truly love Sherman being with Key and Skip I think these 3 will be great soon
Shannon was cool but skip got 3 NFL hall of famers on one show 😮 huge upgrade
great show
Thank You! Keyshawn is the first person I’ve heard in forever mention Dee Ford costing them a SB appearance. People forget that Brady threw a pick on that play. Meaning KC would’ve gotten the ball back & killed the clock
I mention it all the time! Literally 4 out of 5 years was, or should have been, at the SB!
Not only that but if the D-line could have tackled Joe Burrow just once on a third and long in the AFC Championship game loss, Mahomes and KC would have been in 5 straight Super Bowls. Think about, the KC defense kept Mahomes out of 2 Super Bowl appearances. Mahomes has never had even a top 10 defense. He's never had a 1000 yd rusher. He's never had 2 top WRs. Only after the loss to the Bucs did he get a solid O-line. He's had Andy Reid and Travis Kelce.
@@ozarked2363 He's had Tyreek and Kaderius Tony can play but he has health issues. Also Andy Reid had mr cautious Alex Smith leading the lead in explosive plays and air yards. IN SAYING ALL OF THAT, Mahomes is probably the best QB we've *ever* seen. He is the best player in the league by some distance, never mind just QB. He will be the first guy to break $70m a year and even without pieces around him, if he is on the field you have a big chance to win, he's that good.
And I think they would’ve beat the Rams in that Super Bowl and we probably would’ve got a high scoring rematch from that earlier season matchup
Skip is hating on Mahomes because he’s the biggest threat to becoming the greatest quarterback of all time. He will treat Mahomes like he treats Lebron….
No skip hates on Mahomes cause it gets clicks and he can play the heel, even skip knows this isn’t actually an argument
@@Angrymuffin9988 I agree.
1:33 “Tyler Huntley went last year with four touchdowns” 🤣🤣 Love sherm
This is a great show with these additions. Was Irvin just a guest one time?
Happy they picked up this cast great way to bounce back after a huge loss
Agreed the show is doing better then I thought it would after losing Shannon Skip picked some good personalities around him and has taken more of the mediator role so they all get their points across before he even speaks aside from little tidbits here and there.
@@TheNerdJMI do think that these guys have to learn the debate style format. Maybe it’s cuz it was 2 on 1 but skip couldn’t get a word in and even though his argument is wrong it is important to be able to hear it without interruptions. Skip let key talk for 5 min str8 and key was interrupting skip 45 seconds into his point.
What huge loss ? Shannon was a L .
@@dr.apostasy3347you live in delusion lol
@@ComradeTrav I’ve watched undisputed since it started and Shannon was annoying bringing up his time at the farm all the time. People forget his first 2 years their where cringe AF. Skip showed him how to debate.
The fact that Hill left the Chiefs is still crazy to me.
Money talks
Good riddance to that criminal
His priority was money. Nothing wrong with that TBH
Miami and money
Can’t really blame him
Winning doesn’t have the same effect that it does except QB’s
Tyreek can get to the HOF without winning another superbowl
The craziest part is what the chiefs did after that
MORE RICHARD SHERMAN PLEASE!! THIS SHOW IS EVEN BETTER WITH HIS ADDITION.
Sherman at 1:13 like "boom bam bop, badabop boom... pow" while Keyshawn spits supa hot fire
Joe Burrow is very good, but Patrick Mahomes can do sooo much more. Play making ability, clutch factor, mobile. He has set the standard ridiculously high and I just don’t see anyone else on the level rn
Mahomes revitalized Juju and MVS careers!
@@Ky2Quickjuju thought he was that guy
I mean, come on even me as a long time 49ers fan. Even I know Patrick Mahomes is far better than Joe Burrow. Mahomes actually has Super Bowl rings
Burrow hasn’t had a O-line since coming to the Bengals
@@SoSelfMadeMedia no one wants to bring up the fact that if Joe Burrow actually had an offensive line, even halfway as decent as Mahomes during a championship game or a Super Bowl, he would bring back a Lombardi.
This is literally skips worst nightmare. He literally just wrong and he still delusional with more than just Shannon telling him he’s wrong
You literally don’t get Skip’s technique to stir debate, for tv entertainment. You are gullible bruh. If he doesn’t take a contrary opinion, it’s just 3 guys agreeing boring asf
@@randomupdates4013exactly. It’s designed.
It's a DEBATE show. They gotta debate. It's for television
Mate stop being silly....if everyone agreed on the show nobody would watch it..😂😂😂😂
Two damn good Quarterbacks! 💪
Internet can somebody please make a video of Keyshawn saying stop ✋🏼 🛑 and skip stop it 🤣 🤣 🤣
Respect to Sherm for crediting Pat. He knows Pat took advantage of his matchup with Sammy Watkins in that superbowl
I'm a chiefs fan and I like sherman. I understand the 49ers is his team so he going to ride for them. But just knowing that he accepted that lost to mahomes and praise mahomes.I got nothing but respect for him.
@@hinata365247 you dont have to state your fan ship… it adds 0 value
Why is this still a conversation 😂
I love having Richard Sherman on the panel
Love the new show
I’m a bengals fan I love Joe ain’t no way he’s better than Mahomes right now mahomes resume is amazing and also mahomes never has even had to go on the road in the playoffs that’s amazing to me so Joe has alot of work to do
We are in the same situation. Burrow is #2 and there’s not a thing wrong with that. He has plenty of time to catch up stats wise and has the skills to do it, but no one can argue with Mahomes. He’s had the best start to a career ever.
Chiefs fan and Burrow is scary good. I'm happy we have Mahomes, but there are a lot of great QB's in the NFL!
@taylorethridge8214 If we go by last year, Jalen hurts is number 2 period.
@@cade377 absolutely!!!
@@sunman1509 ehhhh you’re not wrong but I think I wanna see another consistent year from Jalen I like him he’s my favorite young QB but I can’t put him over Joe just off of one year that’s all he’s a beast doe
That's the biggest thing with Skip. He just has to be right. You can lay out a 100-page thesis of facts regarding why a player or team is better, but he will dismiss it all to push his narrative.
I Dont know if he does it just because or for Tv or too much ego ?! 😏
Its called a debate
@@yanicyoda4762 it's for tv bro, it's the netertainment business, they need hot takes and senseless controversy
@trackspeed1 That is 100% true. Personally, I love Joe Burrow, but I think Skip's unwillingness to acknowledge Mahome's greatness is the problem. If you want to say Burrow may be just as good or may win more superbowls, that's fair.
It’s a debate show, you want them to agree with each other the whole show?
What a great combo
This debate is a lot closer than it seems. Mahomes does have the hardware, but was put into a pretty good situation. Burrow doesn’t have the hardware (yet), but his situation wasn’t great. Burrow got drafted to the worst team in the league, got injured, then turned the team into Super Bowl contenders a year later. Mahomes has the hardware so he still edges out, but if Burrow ever catches up, then it’s going to be pretty hard to name Mahomes as the best QB.
Not even close.
@@Bolverine you’re not great at this whole debate thing.
Burrow is already behind the 8 ball bruh he needed a mvp and sb by now mahomes had sb, sb mvp, and mvp by year 4
Skip been covering sports for far too long to be saying "I've never seen anything like it* every other day 😂
I swear Keyshawn is a gem! This is exactly what skip needed
He’s trash.
I like Keyshawn calling skiuuup “coach”😂
Really entertaining 👏
Patrick Lavon Mahomes II is the best QB in the game
Agreed
yes yes yes 💯
Im from kansas City Missouri My chiefs Never was able to get out that 1st Round Until PAT got there With our Core that Young Man Is The Truth 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
2013-2017 before Mahomes
1 playoff win
2018 - present With Mahomes
11 playoff wins 💪🏽
@chuy22288 yeah yeah....dude is pretty good 😄
@@jamesr5719 he is the best chiefs quarterback ever, and he has only played 5 full seasons 😂😂
Chiefs are just the perfect storm. Organization just ran to as close to perfection from top to bottom as any team in the league. Enjoy it while it lasts chiefs fans, New England fans are still shook at what has transpired post Brady/Belichick.
I respect Skip, hes so smart. People think these takes come from delusion but Skip knows exactly what hes doing. So good at playing the villain so his co hosts can play hero and become stars to bring in bigger ratings.
He does this because he’s worried Mahomes is close to catching Brady goat status
Sherman knows first hand what it is to be ‘Mahomesed’. Sherm spot on, they ain’t no comparison.
Mohonesed Boy UGTR he’s not that good he’s win Thanks to the CROOKED Refs as long Mohonesed boy keep packing the Refs pockets he’s going to win every game and SB 🏆for the next 25 years he’s a COPYCAT Catfishing Clown Fetish 👹👺👿
I do like Keyshawn and Sherman on the show so far. Sherman has a bright future as an analyst.
Affirmative Action hire
@@paleo704I mean I don’t agree with afirmintive action hires. However skip hand picked these guys and they are actually really good. They both played in the league and had good careers so I don’t think it’s because of there race my guy
I actually forgot how smart Sherman is. He’s gonna do great I think.
@@paleo704 thought affirmative action just was ended. You're going to have to find a different excuse now
Sherm was made for this and Key is better than people are giving him credit to be so I expect this to get very interesting with time
This question is frankly disrespectful. It's like comparing Brees to Brady. While Drew Brees is an amazing qb, top 10 all time, Brady is just on another level of greatness.
Skip tried to tell Richard that the man he played in the Super Bowl wasn’t as good 😂
Why is this such a conversation that everyone seems to be forcing Joe hadn’t done anything yet.
They got me hooked just like the original undisputed. Everybody got to talk which I liked the most! And Richard with the “I live in delusion 😂”.
Ok! This I loveddd fair debate, and not over talking over each other . This show has a lot of potential if they keep it somewhat like this. Also Skip got Destroyed here lol
Bro they said Burrow hasn’t even won his division when he’s won it every single year he’s played, after being drafted onto a garbage fire of a team that went 2-14 with a head coach whose NFL experience had been… QB coach for the rams, for two seasons, and one season on the Dolphins.
Mahomes was drafted by a 12-4 team with the top offensive mind in all of football and future first round hall of fame coach Andy Reed.
Despite that, he’s beat Mahomes 3 out of 4 times head to head, including defeating Mahomes in Arrowhead in the AFC conference game, which no other QB besides Tom Brady had ever even beaten Mahomes in a home playoff game - let alone the AFC conference game. All the while Burrow had the 31st and 28th rated OL (when healthy), which they weren’t for the AFC conference game that the Bengals won, in fact they had two out of five starters on that OL - and only one of those is still on an NFL team and he is on the Jets practice squad.
Good picking the lineup skip! Keep the the work fellas!!!
The one with 2 rings💀
Great take by Sherman - I’m liking how the show is shaping up for this coming NFL season
I heard rachel nichols is rumored to join soon for the nba season
@@88laserbeamall the scrubs joining the show
Talking sports is the greatest equalizer. Knows no race, wealth etc. as long as you have an insightful perspective. Skid base is fully loaded and it is looking good so far.
I really like there being multiple people to call out skip when he has takes like this
What kinda question is then when Patrick has 2 Super Bowl dubs
How tf y’all comparing 2x Super Bowl Championship Winner to Sumbody who dnt even have a MVP or Championship Title🤔
Mahomes cheated
Mahomes was 14-15 in the second half of the super bowl. Wasn't a lot of yards but he didn't have enough offensive possessions in the first half and a few short fields in the second half, but he was dissecting the secondary that second half and scoring on every drive. We all know what skip is doing though, mahomes is his new LeBron.