I honestly disagree with this video not on basis for the tips of the skills but the fact that the video is titled which skills to level FIRST. The skills that most people should go for are the exploration skills from the very beginning which grant more AP by doing certain actions like driving or camping, it will grant you so much AP from the start that it will allow you to get the skills at a quicker rate than having to battle to get the AP. Once you have the AP skills, then this video is great for knowing which skills to go for AFTER the FIRST skills.
I disagree with this comment because the AP cost used to purchase the abilities that grant you AP for adventuring will take a significant portion of the game (if not the whole game) to earn back what you spent on them. OR you could do as the video says and upgrade the best battle skills that are cheap to start getting the most enjoyment and variety out of gameplay as soon as possible.
unfortunately, it takes a long time just to earn back the AP spent on those upgrades. in the long run it's probably worth it, but it's just really slow
I think the biggest early on is to get AP for driving, then get AP for warp killing an enemy and AP for fishing. I racked up 100ish AP rather quickly this way.
For the start of the game you really don't need too worry about getting combat boosting skills in any rush. You should look into the ap gaining skills for car rides, and then chocobo riding once you can use them (amount of gil i spend on chocobo use is quite daft I imagine). While it's only 1 AP each time, the amount of car travel you do in game means quite a lot of extra ap for the duration of the game (especially if like me you sometimes just drive around for fun with the classic tunes playing away). Take these ones asap, and then start working on all the cool link/combat ones. Also once you get a certain shield, and ability to summon enemies there's a simple way of 'farming' ap as well.
pick up EVERY SINGLE ITEM you see on the road and do All sidequests before go on with the main story.... with Debased coin n rare coin it is so easy to lvl up and yield a bunch of AP... it doesn't matter which skill you lvl up first
NicoleKiriginTV If you use coins on magic it turns that magic into experimagic, which gives you a lot of experience when you cast it. This means you level up faster, especially if you use EXP boosting food, and you gain a lot of AP with each level up.
you gain AP with each lvl up... well if you want more AP early on I'll say start your Ascension skill from Exploration... get all of them (first lvl only since the next tier of this ascension is kind useless and cost too much AP) and this mean you'll have to manually travelling, fishing, camping alot instead of skipping them... but early game I think it'd be the most optimize way to earn as much AP as possible without sitting 1 spot and grind
it scales with your level so as you level up it gets stronger and around levels 25-35 having something like 3200hp on noctis vs 1200 makes a huge difference
I've found the ability to be a little underwhelming. If you're level 25 then you are only getting an extra 125 HP from it. Even at level 99 you would get only 495 HP.
not correctly calculated. the ability text states: 10 times the amount of level turned into HP. therefore, its 990 HP, isn't it? thats alot in the scale of FFXV.
And the maximum HP one can gain off an item is 1000 iirc and having an extra 200ish hp on prompto around level 30 is nothing to sneeze at. Quite regularly I've been noticing my friends who are either less experienced in ff or it's their first one struggle on the most trivial of content because they just don't have enough base hp. Much like nearly every other ff game in existance HP =king, ribbon = queen. I personally love it and it frees me up to use another accessory in that slot instead of a bangle.
I find that the "increase stats by level" skills are important to pick up early, since to my knowledge they aren't retroactive. I'm at level 30 or so and my characters (even Prompto) have 1000+ HP since I picked them up early, while my buddy had Prompto at 600 or so HP at this point-he may have even been past level 30 by then.
SwerveStarEx when you get them doesn't matter. you could get to level 99 and THEN buy the strength boost one, and you would get all 99 points of strength.
Anyone know if stats ascension works only when you gain levels or you can buy it anytime? For this, I meant that buying health when you are level 10 will not increase your HP immediately, but only when you go to level 11. But you will get lower HP if you buy health from level 1. Am I understanding this correctly? Thanks !
I found a much easier way to maintain AP without the need of farming or having to spend Gil on upgrades to earn them. But I’m concern if I make it appeal then they might patch it. But it is so easy you’ll be earning-100-200 AP within 25-30 minutes in battle.
Nice video, but the guide is kinda off. I mean, it's a FF game, the first half is pretty streamlined and you only need to invest in things that get you AP fast. I saw some assumptions in the guide (like you won't be getting in danger) that are probably linked with certain builds. I work with warp strikes and full on king arms, so I am always in danger zone and don't get link-strikes. So, my advice, see where you sit on your build before listening to guides on ascension.
thank you for this guide! I guess I've been doing pretty good myself since most of the upgrades you mentioned I have chosen myself. I did have a question though: Do you have to upgrade the ascension tree for each character? or once you upgrade the tree it works for the entire party?
its called airstep, you hold the left stick in a certain direction while in the air. You can get stuff from the Ascension grid to improve the airstep ability, its a really awesome ability! :)
if you want you can get every skill in the game. it will jsut take a REEEAAAALLLLYYYY long time as several skills require 999AP to obtain. most of my AP came from levels (you get free AP per level per character), camping (there is a skill in the exploration tree for this), fishing (exploration tree again) and warp killing weak enemies (probably the fastest but most boring way. but grinding is grinding). as well as AP gains for using magic, taking long trips via car or chocobo, winning chocobo races and having prompto take photo's. there is ALOT of ways to gain AP, but agian, ALOT is needed. i have 80-ish hours in the game and i still havent unlocked about half the skills. definitely not a single 999AP one too.
godsplayingfield I got one 999 skills. For magic. Come to think of it. I should've spend then else where. Stats, teamworks, and explorations are all important. HP up, strength, links are all great in battle! So that's why I'm giving up three accessory slots for all characters. 333 APs for all four = too much. Maybe for Noc if I get other things done.
+StryderK i now have one 999AP skill and it was DEFINITELY a good investment. it was Gladio's break damage limit for his skills. that with impulse is AMAZING. it nigh trippled the damage of the skill against everything that doesnt have stupid high defence like puddings and iron giants. makes fighting in the post game dungeons far easier.... especially when you have to fight like 4 Yoda Tonberries.... (seriously WTF is with those lil guys!? ... i kinda want one....)
So I've been reading and hearing about this, but I can't find a definitive answer. Some people say it's all attacks and others say it's only like holding square but still being able to run. If it's the latter one it seems obsolete to me. So please tell me, if I were to swing an attack on a giant that is about to hit me, would the blackhood save me even though I am mid attack? And also does it does aoe attacks that you normal have to roll through?
They aren't that much of an upgrade either, just a bit. I think they did that for relatively inconsequential skills so that marathon gamers have things to do with AP in the end game. Most critical skills are around 60 at most and useful ones under 100.
This game is making me feel real guilty about the killing of wildlife and hunt missions. The act of collecting horns and tusks are acts of poaching. Am i observing an underlying trend of cruelty in this game? When is a monster an animal, and a human a monster. The hunt side quests do not seem to adequately justify the slaughter of seemingly passive creatures.
first i have to get those AP! why r u saying its for the beginners when all i got 72 AP for the first time n u r telling me to buy some skills that i have to buy after i upgrade some other skill on that tree to get those ur saying to buy. am pissed
turn it on in the options menu under Combat, it scans the enemy for weakness and strengths and slows time down so you can analyze the battle field more strategically
randomly at the beginning of a fight, there is a message on the right and Ignis glows if he rarely uses it and you don't feel like wait mode, I suggest memorizing basic weapon weaknesses, like scorpions weakness to swords (both 1 and 2 handed) or those demondog things weakness to daggers
I honestly disagree with this video not on basis for the tips of the skills but the fact that the video is titled which skills to level FIRST. The skills that most people should go for are the exploration skills from the very beginning which grant more AP by doing certain actions like driving or camping, it will grant you so much AP from the start that it will allow you to get the skills at a quicker rate than having to battle to get the AP. Once you have the AP skills, then this video is great for knowing which skills to go for AFTER the FIRST skills.
Glad I read this!
And people shouldn’t disagree with you?
I disagree with this comment because the AP cost used to purchase the abilities that grant you AP for adventuring will take a significant portion of the game (if not the whole game) to earn back what you spent on them. OR you could do as the video says and upgrade the best battle skills that are cheap to start getting the most enjoyment and variety out of gameplay as soon as possible.
@@xapa8962 kinda sounds like youre bad at the game. Im barely into chapter 2 and already made it back lmfao
I did this and I still barely got any AP. You have to farm AP in this game.
I think you should really start with the exploration skills. With that, everytime you will do something, you will earn AP.
They missed the passive AP generators. Like the ones that gain you AP for camping and driving. Those are important to get first IMO.
urmanascrewed in which category is that?
Exploration. The one for camping, the camping ap booster, driving, and chocobo riding are my favorite.
urmanascrewed Tnx man
unfortunately, it takes a long time just to earn back the AP spent on those upgrades.
in the long run it's probably worth it, but it's just really slow
urmanascrewed Definitely agree I just found out about them recently after obtaining other skills and realized how much of a mistake I made lol
I think the biggest early on is to get AP for driving, then get AP for warp killing an enemy and AP for fishing. I racked up 100ish AP rather quickly this way.
Definitely this. Each of those ones pay for themselves very quickly and then it's just profit.
For the start of the game you really don't need too worry about getting combat boosting skills in any rush. You should look into the ap gaining skills for car rides, and then chocobo riding once you can use them (amount of gil i spend on chocobo use is quite daft I imagine).
While it's only 1 AP each time, the amount of car travel you do in game means quite a lot of extra ap for the duration of the game (especially if like me you sometimes just drive around for fun with the classic tunes playing away). Take these ones asap, and then start working on all the cool link/combat ones.
Also once you get a certain shield, and ability to summon enemies there's a simple way of 'farming' ap as well.
I just gathered 130 AP points and blew the points all on the stats you mentioned. Thanks
you forgot the one where you don't take off much MP from dodging
pick up EVERY SINGLE ITEM you see on the road and do All sidequests before go on with the main story.... with Debased coin n rare coin it is so easy to lvl up and yield a bunch of AP... it doesn't matter which skill you lvl up first
Halo Kosovo coins help to gain AP?
Chris Alvarez yeah debased coin helps lvl up fast n gain AP as well
NicoleKiriginTV If you use coins on magic it turns that magic into experimagic, which gives you a lot of experience when you cast it. This means you level up faster, especially if you use EXP boosting food, and you gain a lot of AP with each level up.
you gain AP with each lvl up... well if you want more AP early on I'll say start your Ascension skill from Exploration... get all of them (first lvl only since the next tier of this ascension is kind useless and cost too much AP) and this mean you'll have to manually travelling, fishing, camping alot instead of skipping them... but early game I think it'd be the most optimize way to earn as much AP as possible without sitting 1 spot and grind
Gotta unlock first the ability to take pictures during a fight xD So silly it's good
Gotta say there is 1 node missing here and that is the Hp stat node. X5Your level in Hp for only 99 is amazing and 100% worth
Kubae420 is it in effect each time you level up or just on the level you're currently on?
it scales with your level so as you level up it gets stronger and around levels 25-35 having something like 3200hp on noctis vs 1200 makes a huge difference
I've found the ability to be a little underwhelming. If you're level 25 then you are only getting an extra 125 HP from it. Even at level 99 you would get only 495 HP.
not correctly calculated. the ability text states: 10 times the amount of level turned into HP. therefore, its 990 HP, isn't it? thats alot in the scale of FFXV.
And the maximum HP one can gain off an item is 1000 iirc and having an extra 200ish hp on prompto around level 30 is nothing to sneeze at. Quite regularly I've been noticing my friends who are either less experienced in ff or it's their first one struggle on the most trivial of content because they just don't have enough base hp. Much like nearly every other ff game in existance HP =king, ribbon = queen. I personally love it and it frees me up to use another accessory in that slot instead of a bangle.
Excellent video make more. Just info no messing about. Good info well delivered. Subbed.
I finally know what regroup does! Everyone says to use it but nobody explains what it actually does and now I know. Thank you!
I would say blink is a must have skill early on as it enables phase even when in atk animation.
Also light phase is Rly good
I find that the "increase stats by level" skills are important to pick up early, since to my knowledge they aren't retroactive. I'm at level 30 or so and my characters (even Prompto) have 1000+ HP since I picked them up early, while my buddy had Prompto at 600 or so HP at this point-he may have even been past level 30 by then.
SwerveStarEx
when you get them doesn't matter.
you could get to level 99 and THEN buy the strength boost one, and you would get all 99 points of strength.
Anyone know if stats ascension works only when you gain levels or you can buy it anytime?
For this, I meant that buying health when you are level 10 will not increase your HP immediately, but only when you go to level 11. But you will get lower HP if you buy health from level 1. Am I understanding this correctly?
Thanks !
If you are level 10, and you upgrade the health nodes, it will add no matter what level you start. Don't worry :)
arm nakornthab good question i was wondering the same thing
Regroup doesn't restore hp to normal. It only restores back to the top of the Grey bar.
The Combat tree is the best.
I faught a level 72 by myself and won but used so many potions im level 38
so was i the only one who went though like 3/4 of the game not knowing /remember about the ap things
I found a much easier way to maintain AP without the need of farming or having to spend Gil on upgrades to earn them. But I’m concern if I make it appeal then they might patch it. But it is so easy you’ll be earning-100-200 AP within 25-30 minutes in battle.
Thank you. Luckily, I had chosen all but the last one already. As a final fantasy noob, this stuff helps
Nice video, but the guide is kinda off. I mean, it's a FF game, the first half is pretty streamlined and you only need to invest in things that get you AP fast. I saw some assumptions in the guide (like you won't be getting in danger) that are probably linked with certain builds. I work with warp strikes and full on king arms, so I am always in danger zone and don't get link-strikes. So, my advice, see where you sit on your build before listening to guides on ascension.
thank you for this guide! I guess I've been doing pretty good myself since most of the upgrades you mentioned I have chosen myself. I did have a question though: Do you have to upgrade the ascension tree for each character? or once you upgrade the tree it works for the entire party?
Sorry this is 2 yrs later but do u see the characters below? It shows you what character it works on
@@mxrky8383 thanks! It was a great game!
how do you combo into air attacks like the one you did at 0:25 I just bought the game and i wanna know how to do cool looking combos like that
its called airstep, you hold the left stick in a certain direction while in the air. You can get stuff from the Ascension grid to improve the airstep ability, its a really awesome ability! :)
Why not any of the Exploration ones? Roadrunning is great.
You should unlock the do airstep for many time ability. It is so fun too use it.
I know, Noct will sometimes preform dragoon jumps (the straight spear dive) while he's above an enemy
its extremely useful for big and slow enemies
where is air dance
so regroup, do you have to use it yourself or is it done by ignis?
Jarrett DeVore It's done by ignis
and he does it on his own or do u have to tell him to?
Jarrett DeVore You must order him to do it. I think it's L1 on ps4 and then up on the d pad. On Xbox one its LB and up on the d pad I think.
Can you unlock all the skills at the same time? Is there a cap on how many AP you can get? Can I redistribute the AP in the skill tree?
MrAcura28 u constantly gain ap
Just to be clear, there's no cap on how much AP I can get?
if you want you can get every skill in the game. it will jsut take a REEEAAAALLLLYYYY long time as several skills require 999AP to obtain.
most of my AP came from levels (you get free AP per level per character), camping (there is a skill in the exploration tree for this), fishing (exploration tree again) and warp killing weak enemies (probably the fastest but most boring way. but grinding is grinding).
as well as AP gains for using magic, taking long trips via car or chocobo, winning chocobo races and having prompto take photo's. there is ALOT of ways to gain AP, but agian, ALOT is needed. i have 80-ish hours in the game and i still havent unlocked about half the skills. definitely not a single 999AP one too.
godsplayingfield I got one 999 skills. For magic. Come to think of it. I should've spend then else where. Stats, teamworks, and explorations are all important. HP up, strength, links are all great in battle! So that's why I'm giving up three accessory slots for all characters. 333 APs for all four = too much. Maybe for Noc if I get other things done.
+StryderK i now have one 999AP skill and it was DEFINITELY a good investment. it was Gladio's break damage limit for his skills. that with impulse is AMAZING. it nigh trippled the damage of the skill against everything that doesnt have stupid high defence like puddings and iron giants.
makes fighting in the post game dungeons far easier.... especially when you have to fight like 4 Yoda Tonberries.... (seriously WTF is with those lil guys!? ... i kinda want one....)
I go ham in the exploration tree. So i get ap and exp faster. It's boring as shit but still the best for me.
Eisai ellhnas?
what about the 333 node that negates damage when you press (X) because im on xbox, but how does that work? pretty much makes you immortal or what?
yea, but you wont be needing that once u got black hood
Black hood?
its in pitioss dungeon (only accessible with regalia type-f) basically automatically evade ALL atk. dope af
Harry Wellington holy shit
So I've been reading and hearing about this, but I can't find a definitive answer. Some people say it's all attacks and others say it's only like holding square but still being able to run. If it's the latter one it seems obsolete to me. So please tell me, if I were to swing an attack on a giant that is about to hit me, would the blackhood save me even though I am mid attack? And also does it does aoe attacks that you normal have to roll through?
The AP jump to three is ridiculous.
They aren't that much of an upgrade either, just a bit. I think they did that for relatively inconsequential skills so that marathon gamers have things to do with AP in the end game. Most critical skills are around 60 at most and useful ones under 100.
the only one i really want is the 3 accessories, but 333 AP a piece is damn hard to save up for when there are so many good cheaper things to get.
This game is making me feel real guilty about the killing of wildlife and hunt missions. The act of collecting horns and tusks are acts of poaching. Am i observing an underlying trend of cruelty in this game? When is a monster an animal, and a human a monster. The hunt side quests do not seem to adequately justify the slaughter of seemingly passive creatures.
Erik Ling Fuck off zoomer
Damn nice vid!
first i have to get those AP! why r u saying its for the beginners when all i got 72 AP for the first time n u r telling me to buy some skills that i have to buy after i upgrade some other skill on that tree to get those ur saying to buy.
am pissed
How does the Analyze skill proc? Cause I have it, but I rarely see it being used by Ignis.
Its rare to see him use it tbh. I suggest wait mode. Locking on in wait mode scans targets so u can do it manually
Yea.. I saw that in a vid.
Carl A. N. how do you use wait mode on ps4??? and what does it do
turn it on in the options menu under Combat, it scans the enemy for weakness and strengths and slows time down so you can analyze the battle field more strategically
randomly at the beginning of a fight, there is a message on the right and Ignis glows
if he rarely uses it and you don't feel like wait mode, I suggest memorizing basic weapon weaknesses, like scorpions weakness to swords (both 1 and 2 handed) or those demondog things weakness to daggers
Im just gonna watch this vid whenever i spend my ap for now.
I honestly forgot about the ascension grid after like 3 uses because I really don't need it, the game is waaaay toooo easy
Good for you
u can't block lol
ff 15 needed a magic system, and not a magic craft system.. bleh...
Completed the game without even knowing the abilities were a thing 😭
DarkDiamondGamer lmao oh my god.
bullshit.
script read