Shini Ryuga Yugi Muto is still better than Atem, though. and the same can be said about Ryou Bakura, without his Yami he would not enter the Final rounds of Battle City
"Intentionally misinterpreting rulings". - SS after Duality - Summoning a Nomi from the Graveyard that had its summon negated. - Entering Battle Phase when a card prevents it. - Activating an ineligible card in Damage Step. The list goes on...
Dude, you completely missed a bunch of really obvious ones! What about, kidnapping people and forcing them to duel in an unfair setting? Throwing someone's best cards off the side of the boat? Using brainwashing to threaten a duelists loved ones unless they throw the duel? No one appreciates the classics anymore
When I used to play in YGO tournaments, I remember some opponents "taking back" their moves. Like, I would activate a trap and they would say I am not going to do that. Totally lame stuff. The way I see it, if you declare your move and set your card down completely (and it's a legal move), then you have to stick with it as final.
heh, i used to dick around with a friend by hovering my hand over certain face down cards so he would be like "i will attack with..." /hovers hand over face down spell card that doesn't effect attacking monsters in any way/ "hmm, never mind, im going to play this and end my turn"
CYЯEO Well, that is still fine in my book. Part of the game is psychological. If your friend starts to make it too obvious, then it is all part of the game. No cheating there.
The only time people can "Take Back" moves is if they make a move they thought was legal but isn't, or sometimes when testing with friends. My friends and I do, but only if the other person says "It's okay," or "I'll let you try that again."
I had someone who tried to read my hand from the reflection on my glasses. i noticed they were looking at me weird so i took my glasses off and shuffled my hand around. Another tried to have me DQed when I had them locked out with a combo of Dark paladin and jinzo. on top of Jinzo stopping traps and D.Paladin stopping spellss he was running dragons and had a grave full of them putting Paladin up to over 30k atk. He called over a judge, they looked at my set up and told the guy to just fold cus he wasnt gonna win. ANd this was just a local thing.
in my local shop we had one kid who would constantly purchase new sleeves so they are slippery, allowing him to draw cards from the bottom of his deck. he was so fat that you couldnt even see anything under his hand :/
thecalmsnow00 That was actually a common misconception that was established in chain rules back in the early 2000s. Chains activate effects in the order of most recent activated to oldest and as such, it was thought that MST destroying a card before its activation meant the effect did not take place. Genuine confusion in the rules.
Way back before GX era I was at a local tournament with some friends and we saw some kid get DQed. it was easy to see why. His deck was unsleeved except for one card. One of those giant hard clear sleeves that contained a blue eyes. Fucking hilarious
97masterskater It sure would have but if Sfat didn't beat Mango in winners then I feel like Mango would have beat m2k in winners finals, and we all know what happens with m2k when he's in losers. The only chance m2k had was to face Mango from winners side in Grand Finals.
im guilty of this, however i only use it for game flow eg: "Red gadget, search for Yellow, shuffle" i do get pissed off when someone reads the full effect with extra. actually had a friend who did that so he would say "i summon my red gadget, and its effect allows me to search for my yellow gadget and add it to my hand, then i must shuffle my deck"
how about this one opponent constantly insulting you because they believe that this card can do this because his reference was...ygopro... yet i had 2 rulebooks and internet access, and with him screaming at my GF's face...only to get an offical notification by the locals FB page saying sorry but this duelist (me) was right on all accounts on card rulings on all 3 cards and that (asshole) is disqualified for insulting another players intelligence threatening him making fun of him and his gf calling him an asperger kid (me and my gf have that but in an extremely low spectrum) and various other things (i would have banned him after the things he did and said but ehh thats my worst one and the asshole still comes.
You can only "normal" summon one monster in one turn (playing a monster from your hand onto the field), unless an effect allows you to normal summon more than once. Tribute summons are also normal summons. Any summon other than those are considered special summons. Effects that allow you to summon monsters from your hand are also special summons, unless the effect says otherwise.
I had a friend that grouped his most powerful cards together and shuffled his deck sloppily so when he drew one card he'd know the rest of his best combo was on the way.
+cram master She also had one of the better Romatic routes, in my opinion. Yukiko just got annoying at the end, and Rise's was just..meh...I did like Naoto's though.
My favorite way to cheat is to beat the living f**k outta my opponent until they surrender or until the ambulanceroid shows up I call it the Gachidoki method
Fun fact about setting monsters in the spell and trap zone; it also used to be an issue when Morphing Jar and Giant Trunade when both were legal. Set EVERYTHING, including Morph Jar, draw a free new hand, then flip Giant Trunade, and your opponent would have been none the wiser.
Cheating is bad, no doubt about that. But sometimes they are entertaining. I spent hours on DN in the good old days watching the very mastermind of Yugioh, Squiddy, play (or at least try to play). I can't count how many times he "double drawed", "noral sumond" twice, "ativated an efet" incorrectly, or told someone to "mind their own bujinis" after they schooled him on the rulings. I hope you're out there, Squiddy, still tormenting scrub duelists who could never hope to match your godliness.
I cheat by using mentalist tricks and passing it off as being psychic in order to make my opponents choke by going "your hand is bad, I know that you will lose, it's been foretold by faith" lol it's basically cold reading and then messing with your opponent like you do in poker
+Hameed Paul got a friend that cheated often. Funny enough, he would lose most of the duels anyways. It's like they know they'd lose without it, whether their cards suck or they're getting out played, so it's all they have. A shame, but especially worse when there's money involved like in these big tournaments
How to prevent cheating: Punch/kick/headbutt the cheater and then tell everyone the punk called you a racial slur. Problem solved! (Please know that I am joking.)
Ok, I'll cop to one of my old methods that I used during casual play, although this is for MTG. One of the central themes of one of my decks involved elves that let me search my library for land (until such time as I could snowball with high-mana cards). Cutting your opponent's deck at the beginning is fairly common to keep it honest, but if you shuffle enough during play, your opponent gets complacent, allowing you to shuffle something towards the top, if only to speed things up (try not to shuffle a good card RIGHT on top, a card or three down to avoid suspicion). A girlfriend once caught me at it while she was watching, told me never to do it again... against her, and to not call her out on it in the future when she does it to others.
This video and the comments section has taught me many ways the cheating is done. I am both ashamed and scared to ever play in a tournament after knowing how far people will go just to win a game that has no positive effect on their lives. I honestly pity all those who have intentionally cheated just to win a match. That's just plain sad.
I remember facing a little punk who was using ordeal of the traveller, he kept saying I was wrong but ordeal says you have to reveal the card to prove it, luckily a judge was passing by and he saw him cheat. I was also the victim of the opponents team mates being behind me, and texting my hand to the opponent, one duel I quit cause every card I drew a guy behind me said out loud nice draw man giving my opponent a heads up, I have faced all types of cheaters
the way i cheat if im about to lose because of an attack, i keep asking if they're sure they want to attack. This goes on for about 5 mins or so until either i convince them to stop or they just quit
What we really need is an official game (preferably cross-platform) where you pay once, get access to all the currently available cards (even region exclusive) through single-player gameplay alone (no paid DLC or pay2win). For multiplayer, it could let players define the format they want to use (amount of each card allowed/total deck size/number of players/starting life points/teams). For change in number of players, they'd have to finally release some official rules on it, instead of players having to guess based on the anime/manga. And maybe then, they'd actually release PSCT for ALL the cards, not just whichever ones they've chosen to reprint.
My favorite thing is to go full on Bandit Keith and hide cards from people. There's a couple ways you can go about it, too. Either you start out with a deck around 39-37 cards (because no one's going to be able to spot that difference at a glance and anyone who's not making bread is asking for a deck count turn 1) and hide Odd-Eyes and friends in a wristband or something. Brim of a hat works best, since you can reach up with where you're holding your hand like you're going to scratch and pop it in there, and no one's the wiser. Also improves your draw rate by a little opening game, so that's helpful. Or you just use a standard deck and keep a few copies of something on hand to pull out whenever you need to. Works especially well if it's just a really good card that you can have a few copies of without arousing suspicion (even better if it's unlimited), so you can hide a second or third copy somewhere on you for fun and it's not all like, "Boy, you sure do draw that Raigeki whenever you're in trouble, don't you?" Both are a lot harder to check than people assume they'd be, since just about everyone does the rapid hand shuffle to look through their cards, so no one's likely to catch an extra one as they're all whizzing by. You can even take it a step further and hide it in your open hand when you go to draw and act like you just topdecked that card on your turn. Can even have a friend go by and draw their attention away for half a second when you're pulling it off. And I only feel confident telling people how to do this because you actually have to have some skill in dealing cards and sleight of hand to pull it off convincingly and not fuck up and get banned for life. Choose wisely.
Cap you forgot one chet: using two tuners and no non-tuners for a synchro summon. Yes cap I remember when you did it with Karakuri on stream when DN was still a thing.
The best cheating strategy of all. Play Yu-Jo Friendship while having Unity in your hand to force them to accept the handshake but before offering the handshake cover your hand in shit. If your opponent refuses he will be disqualified. It might not even be cheating but its definitely dirty.
I only played the game with a friend of mine. He lend me a deck of his (weaker), then we played with extra rules that I did not know were fake. No need to sacrifice (except special summons) and before you start your turn you draw to have 6 cards. Did I mention that he had the gods, envoy of the beggining, envoy of the end. At one time even with all those cards he lost, he played envoy of the end he thought he had the killing damage, but he miscalculated and when. I told him he had lost and he made some bullshit rule that made him win. Even with all that he lost. Let me remind you that that was my first and only game. I thought man I am never going to play this game ever again and I didn't. THE END
I think one that's very overlooked is trying to activate cards that you can't for the sake of baiting out back row. A good example is that you can very easily activate poly with no material monsters in hand for the sake of luring out a warning and your opponent would have no idea.
The technology problem of feeding info to players is actually taken care of in other games. In both magic and force players are only allowed to use pen and paper to keep track of life totals
I hate cheaters there's was this kid in high school because he didn't had mean friends so me and my friend every day at lunch we play yugiyo but he cheated all the time like he doubled flip coin like he flips it we're it falls off the table but he counts it when it landed on the side he needed he hides cards up he's jacked but we didn't caught on but one time he was late to class he forgot the quarter we were useing i pick it up it was double sided then show my friend he went to fuck him up but we just never hang or talk to him again like he never existed
One method of cheating that's actually pretty hard to catch someone on: drawing 1 fewer card (skipping your own draw phase), then calling a judge to accuse your opponent of drawing an extra card.
Isn't that extremely *easy* to catch though? I mean, if you end your turn and your opponent doesn't draw right away, they've skipped their draw phase. And I haven't actually been to an IRL tournament before, but shouldn't there be a judge watching the duel at all times, to prevent exactly this sort of shit? If they just show up to address issues when called by a player, they're just a mediator, not a judge.
What are you going to get by cheating, it's a game made by rules where you proof your skills and keep trying yo get better, Cheating in this game makes no sense.
that is not cheating, every card Sleeves will make your Deck bigger than a deck without sleves, and in a Tournement you even count the cards in the deck
A good "cheaters never prosper" story is of one of my friends using a monster that boosted the attack "Number 39: Utopia" when it was XYZ Summoned. He always stacked his deck to get that card in his first few draws. Everyone in my group still beat the combo and him almost every time.
Intentionally stalling without the use of card effects technically is. It's an honor thing. It's kinda douchy to run the clock down so you can grab a draw when you know you would lose. Trust me, I've had it done to me before. Was not happy.
owlflame Actually, that guy kinda simplified it. In tournaments, if time runs out, you go into a special stage. There are six turns, from 0 to 5, and the player who was on their turn as the timer went off takes turn 0, then the opponent takes turn 1, then you take 2, etc, until 5. After the End Phase of turn 5, the person who has the most life points wins. That said, there is NO clock in overtime, so you can stall all you want, which I hate, considering the pricks at my locals hold up the whole shop during the overtime proceedings of round 5 and I have to drive an hour home. It's really rude.
Lohengrin "stalling" is a viable strategy yes *cough cough* Gravity Bind. However I believe that stalling in this case refers to intentional slow play, not stalling through card mechanics.
Hikaru Blaze I respectfully disagree. I think what he was getting at is Intentionally using stalling cards and as he mentioned "a turtle like defense" in hopes your opponent was not able to deal with it to be able to get a win or a draw. Though I agree its a cheap and honor-less way to get a win and sometimes knock out a player. However, (IMO) as a pro you should be ready for it. The video was about Cheating, as in breaking the rules. Which all of the other examples are. This one example only seems as an exploit of game mechanics, which technically is not against rules (as far as i know it).
Lohengrin I'm a little late to the party here but he mightve meant turtle-like as in the Shell but things like intentionally asking ruling for the sake of wasting time or purposely sitting there pretending to think about your move qualifies as stalling
d00blz Right, but as i mentioned. The video references cards that use a stalling feature. Rather than the annoyance of wasting people's time. However, im not so sure either would be considered cheating, per se. Cheap, yes. Honor-less, yes. Boring, maybe. Cheating, id say no. Although i am willing to see otherwise if there is an official ruling out there.
You can still stack your deck by having cards in the same order before power shuffling and it'll give off the illusion of fairness, this works flawlessly as long as you don't cut the deck before the 2nd power shuffle
felix ruffle nah he didn't, he just said it ain't available on mac, but nobody even uses macs for gaming cuz that's not what they for, if you game on mac you gotta use shit like bootcamp or whatever they got nowadays, they ain't for gaming, they're for editing.
+xbon1 I wouldn't really consider playing a card game "gaming" in the first place. The graphics are minimal and the game does not even need to be ran at high framerates. It's kind of like saying that if you play minesweeper you need a fully decked out i7 with water cooling and 3 gtx 1080s with a 4k monitor and a high quality soundcard. it just isn't necessary. some people just want to have a bit of fun with a card game, ya know? :)
Double normal summons is something I'm guilty of, but it is never intentional. It's usually when playing a combo deck where you normal summon to get to your combo, but the combo requires a normal later on.
I had an opponent adding 3 extra cards to the top of his deck after cutting at an LLDS. Called it out and called judge, we counted the deck; 43 cards. They had no way of making sure he had added them besides my word for it, so we cut out 3 random cards and played on. My friend told me he was a cheater before the match, and said he cheated with remaking moves after making a mistake. The cheater went on and won the event, got an invitation, a playmat, and a box of TDIL.
Iv always liked the idea of using 2 different size card sleeves, if you or your opponent cuts a deck with two different size card sleeves its more likely that their fingers will catch on to the larger ones, meaning that cards in slightly smaller card sleeves have a better chance of being in your opening hand, Ive tested this method myself at home with different color card sleeves with my eyes closed and it works but have never actually used it in a game, i got the idea from playing with a deck of regular playing cards that where cut so that you could manipulate the outcome, but im sure im not the first to think of it.
you can select five cards and put them on your lap then after youve shuffled and the opponents split your deck you can add the five cards that you want up top by keeping it underneath your hand and lay your hand up top of deck then add the cards up top of the deck by pretending to straighten the deck
In tournaments I would always insist on my opponent, cutting the deck face down on the table, and I would do the same for their deck. Thus preventing them possibly seeing the bottom (or any) card/s.
Honestly, the way I see people cheat a lot is when using Effect Veiler. People will use it during the battle phase or during their own turn, when the card clearly says in the first sentence "During your opponent's main phase" I've seen a lot of people try to do that. Use it outside when it is supposed to be used
That card shuffle card can used by and against a Spyral deck. If a Spyral opponent uses drone to set up your top 3 cards use that to change it. If you are a Spyral deck you can see the top card of your opponent's deck and if you don't like it you can shuffle it at the end of your turn after you know what it is and do your Spyral thing.
I remember one time I had a three-way duel, and one of my opponents (let's call her Alice) was significantly more competent than the other (we'll call him Bob). At one point, Bob attacked one of my monsters, which - say it with me - ACTIVATED MY TRAP CARD. I don't remember exactly what the card was, but its effect was something like "Play this card when one of your monsters is attacked. The opponent loses Life Points equal to the attacking monster's ATK points." Since there weren't any real rules in place for a three-way duel, the card only said "the opponent" without specifying "the opponent whose monster attacked you", so I decided to have the damage go to Alice instead of Bob. After I explained the decision, Alice conceded that, no, there technically weren't any rules against it.
having long hair and earplog in your ear, while a friend is watching from distance and talking in his phone or the microphone in the earplogs and u hear everything.
This is why I like the video games..... you are still playing the same game, but many of these tricks cheaters use can't work when the cards are made of 1s and 0s.
Also, the final cut should go to a neutral party to prevent your opponent from fuking with your deck. (Also any shuffle during the should go to the neutral party too)
Performing an illegal move subtly so that it goes unnoticed until several turns later when the duel has advanced so far that there's no way to really take it back even if it is noticed and you could easily create confusion over whether or not the move was done legally or not.
I went to a tournament once where a guy brought his little brother and the little brother would sit behind who his brother was playing and flat out say "Oh I love *Card's name here*" We thought "Oh just a dumb kid" then we found out later they planned it after that we started playing with our hands down to the table .. Suddenly that guy started losing a lot more
I remember force shuffling my enemy's deck before giving it back just to mess him like oh I know the cards in your hand and which card you draw it's hard to shuffle cards like that but when you pull it off you just show off like that
Some of the things you mentioned are rules that have been commonly broken without knowing. Is there a way you can make sure to at least not forget about things like those? Also, how is intentional slow play cheating?
Lying about cards happened to me on nationals. I wasnt even kid my oponent was. He was german and was using german card without translation note(we were not in german nor austria). i could not reserve judge just for myself for translation so i had no other option. He used fire hand to summon another fire hand twice in row. What was even worse was that his friend was standing behind him and turned to him with every card if he should play it. Judge kicked his friend to the corner of room(about 15meter form us) and this kid was still turning to him until judge gave him second warning. To top it of. My country have very small yugioh community. Its so small that we basically know each other so cheater arent thing here. On the other hand germany have big community. So these guys use our country to get easy win for qualification. So basically not only went here to get easy win they also cheated just to get it. I found it after game and i was pissed for rest of the day(i would have won that round)
I'd say the sneak draw would be the method I'v used. Not to be confused with drawing an extra card when drawing. This method requires a subtle position of your hand where you slide one finger under the top card and draw the card below it. With sleeves it makes it very difficult to detect. That being said, I'v only ever done this with regular playing cards.
my favorite stall is to get a good defense monster out and then use wonder balloons with sword of deep seated. then i just wait for them to deck out and hope they dont have any despells or cards like that. I know it may piss people off but I have won so many "unwinable" duels that way.
Hiding cards in your hand, swapping the top card of your deck with one from your hand to get a free redraw, attempting to take back a legal move or big play when you realize it won't do what you think it will (i.e. Targeting a card for destruction with an effect, but then assigning a new target when they realize it wouldn't kill the card)
I used to run a gadget deck years ago when those cards are relatively new and I would she try bringing other cards besides my gadgets to my hand. I also then try to reshuffle the deck or to stack the cards in a way that when they were shuffled cards that I wanted were at the top
"Now I personally don't have a problem with bribery, it's a victimless crime" Translation; "I've taken part in bribery before and wish I could more often" lol
Life points or accidentally not adding buffs debuffs is something that happens on accident for me often. Same with saying what a card does in the wrong way
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You forgot #1:
Using an ancient spirit from inside a gold puzzle thing to win all your duels for you
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Yugi Muto is still better than Atem, though.
and the same can be said about Ryou Bakura, without his Yami he would not enter the Final rounds of Battle City
To be fair... he wasn't aware of that and Yami-Bakura was faking being normal Bakura..
Seems kind of hard to tell..
Shini Ryuga
and you forgot how Raphael pwned The Pharaoh because The Pharaoh refused to listen to Yugi and let himself be provoked by his opponent.
rob140892 at the end of the series he's better. but not for 90% of the show
rob140892 and I didn't forget anything, because that information is irrelevant
Special summoning after pot of duality.
"Intentionally misinterpreting rulings".
- SS after Duality
- Summoning a Nomi from the Graveyard that had its summon negated.
- Entering Battle Phase when a card prevents it.
- Activating an ineligible card in Damage Step.
The list goes on...
- Attacking after SOUL CHARGE
- try to dealing burn damage after ONE DAY OF PEACE
Honestly, I don't run that card a lot, and I ALWAYS forget this. Idk, ;[
haha that was brutal
Dude, you completely missed a bunch of really obvious ones! What about, kidnapping people and forcing them to duel in an unfair setting? Throwing someone's best cards off the side of the boat? Using brainwashing to threaten a duelists loved ones unless they throw the duel? No one appreciates the classics anymore
I know right, I always hate it when people take my Cyber Dragon Infinity and throw it off the boat. This my 9th Infinity right now.
Yeah, I hate it too when people force me to duel in a place that OSHA would throw a fit, and if I lose, I get sent to the Shadow Realm.
I also hate it when they stand on a cliff, and me winning would result in killing my opponent because the force of the final blow would push him off.
Rest in spaghetti never forgetti, number iC1000. Weevil Underwood got his grubby hands on an incinerator.
Seriously, i hate it when a mythical dragon literally hands them the card(s) they need to win the game.
There's no rule in yugioh that says you can't eat your opponent's cards
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I told him but he wouldn't believe me.
God some people
Actually there is, it's called stealing your opponent's cards
@@larrychilders6599 but they’ll get them back after 6 hours
Murder: killing your opponent then claiming you won by default
When I used to play in YGO tournaments, I remember some opponents "taking back" their moves. Like, I would activate a trap and they would say I am not going to do that. Totally lame stuff. The way I see it, if you declare your move and set your card down completely (and it's a legal move), then you have to stick with it as final.
heh, i used to dick around with a friend by hovering my hand over certain face down cards
so he would be like "i will attack with..." /hovers hand over face down spell card that doesn't effect attacking monsters in any way/ "hmm, never mind, im going to play this and end my turn"
CYЯEO Well, that is still fine in my book. Part of the game is psychological. If your friend starts to make it too obvious, then it is all part of the game. No cheating there.
The only time people can "Take Back" moves is if they make a move they thought was legal but isn't, or sometimes when testing with friends. My friends and I do, but only if the other person says "It's okay," or "I'll let you try that again."
Misplays happen
Misplays are fine but when things get revealed it’s too late.
I dont need to cheat.
I have the heart of the cards.
McGeester 25 Same thing, really.
hahaha true dat
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I had someone who tried to read my hand from the reflection on my glasses. i noticed they were looking at me weird so i took my glasses off and shuffled my hand around. Another tried to have me DQed when I had them locked out with a combo of Dark paladin and jinzo. on top of Jinzo stopping traps and D.Paladin stopping spellss he was running dragons and had a grave full of them putting Paladin up to over 30k atk. He called over a judge, they looked at my set up and told the guy to just fold cus he wasnt gonna win. ANd this was just a local thing.
damn dude... you're brutal
LOL! The last one was funny. Those judges were straight up savages telling him to give it up.
i hate people who play a draw 4 and change the color to blue
i hate when they change to green. But the most annoying one is the card that is completely blank. That card is op
I hate it when on they turn the color to orange
in my local shop we had one kid who would constantly purchase new sleeves so they are slippery, allowing him to draw cards from the bottom of his deck. he was so fat that you couldnt even see anything under his hand :/
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Trying to summon a Pokemon. I hate that!
Everyone telling me to summon dat pikachu, my pikachu card only does 20 base damage
Alternatively, trying to summon a MetalGreymon.
Pot of Greed makes me draw five cards, right?
I play a blue eyes white dragon *Plays thundermaw hellkite* He's my favourite pokemon.
No it let's u draw 2 cards and its band
Wait wtf?! Are you implying that bandit Keith is a cheater?!
implying no: Stating Yes
I agree with you. He was a thief, not a cheater.
swapping out cards in the middle of the dual is cheating. Agree that he is also a thief.
Wisdom HIS NAME IS LITERALLY SYNONYMOUS WITH CROOK! OF COURSE HE'S A CHEATER!
Sure hes a cheater, but in America.....
When people think MST negates.
thecalmsnow00 That was actually a common misconception that was established in chain rules back in the early 2000s. Chains activate effects in the order of most recent activated to oldest and as such, it was thought that MST destroying a card before its activation meant the effect did not take place. Genuine confusion in the rules.
You forgot using a crazy eye thingy to read your opponents minds
Cried so hard.
Or another crazy eye thingy that can see the future
Way back before GX era I was at a local tournament with some friends and we saw some kid get DQed. it was easy to see why. His deck was unsleeved except for one card. One of those giant hard clear sleeves that contained a blue eyes. Fucking hilarious
How about trying to resolve chains incorrectly or trying to activate cards/effects while a chain is being resolved.
you happy he won CCC?
97masterskater Yeah luckily he didn't have to go against Mango because he probably would have lost.
idk you think so? A mango vs m2k grand finals would have been so hype tho :D
97masterskater It sure would have but if Sfat didn't beat Mango in winners then I feel like Mango would have beat m2k in winners finals, and we all know what happens with m2k when he's in losers. The only chance m2k had was to face Mango from winners side in Grand Finals.
good point. also when did sfat git gud? xD
my favorite is not reading the cards.
How about when your opponent doesn't let you read their cards, just tell you what it does so they can lie about it's actual effect?
+Harvey1997 I find it annoying when they try to explain to you a card as you're reading it as if to discourage you.
+crater252 my favorite is also knowing that cards they play and you know about it better than they do when they misused it.
"I activate Pot of Greed, which allows me to-"
"We all know what Pot of Greed does!"
"Oh, yeah? What does it do?"
"... Go on."
im guilty of this, however i only use it for game flow
eg: "Red gadget, search for Yellow, shuffle"
i do get pissed off when someone reads the full effect with extra. actually had a friend who did that
so he would say "i summon my red gadget, and its effect allows me to search for my yellow gadget and add it to my hand, then i must shuffle my deck"
how about this one opponent constantly insulting you because they believe that this card can do this because his reference was...ygopro... yet i had 2 rulebooks and internet access, and with him screaming at my GF's face...only to get an offical notification by the locals FB page saying sorry but this duelist (me) was right on all accounts on card rulings on all 3 cards and that (asshole) is disqualified for insulting another players intelligence threatening him making fun of him and his gf calling him an asperger kid (me and my gf have that but in an extremely low spectrum) and various other things (i would have banned him after the things he did and said but ehh thats my worst one and the asshole still comes.
Man that must have been rough.
Eli Reid otk him every time you play him from now
sure will the basterd still goes and i still hate his guts
wait...YOU CAN ONLY SUMMON ONE MONSTER PER TURN?!! have I been playing yugioh wrong my entire life?
You can only "normal" summon one monster in one turn (playing a monster from your hand onto the field), unless an effect allows you to normal summon more than once. Tribute summons are also normal summons. Any summon other than those are considered special summons. Effects that allow you to summon monsters from your hand are also special summons, unless the effect says otherwise.
I had a friend that grouped his most powerful cards together and shuffled his deck sloppily so when he drew one card he'd know the rest of his best combo was on the way.
I'm commenting for no reason. I just love your Profile Picture, it is actually my phone's lock screen.
Same here. This picture is just awesome. I have it on my lock screen as well.
+cram master Chie is my favorite Persona 4 girl. It is nice to meet you, fellow person who has a Chie lock screen.
I know what you mean. Chie is my favorite persona 4 girl of all time.
+cram master She also had one of the better Romatic routes, in my opinion. Yukiko just got annoying at the end, and Rise's was just..meh...I did like Naoto's though.
My favorite way to cheat is to beat the living f**k outta my opponent until they surrender or until the ambulanceroid shows up
I call it the Gachidoki method
I know a couple of people who, when shuffling their opponent's deck, would actually steal a card from the deck.
Fun fact about setting monsters in the spell and trap zone; it also used to be an issue when Morphing Jar and Giant Trunade when both were legal. Set EVERYTHING, including Morph Jar, draw a free new hand, then flip Giant Trunade, and your opponent would have been none the wiser.
"The one deck that can place monsters in the S/T zone is dead" My Crystal Beast deck would like to have a word with you
How can it talk if it's dead?
+Big_DaddySho0t Crystal beats don't die, they turn into crystals :3
Fawful Goat Oh shit, a deck with immortal monsters? OP OP
what about artifacts???
We need a new not cringy intro.
Excellent, I assume you're willing to animate one for me.
MegaCapitalG Just saying.
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The opening is great.
+MegaCapitalG It's the dankest intro around breh I love it
Cheating is bad, no doubt about that. But sometimes they are entertaining.
I spent hours on DN in the good old days watching the very mastermind of Yugioh, Squiddy, play (or at least try to play). I can't count how many times he "double drawed", "noral sumond" twice, "ativated an efet" incorrectly, or told someone to "mind their own bujinis" after they schooled him on the rulings.
I hope you're out there, Squiddy, still tormenting scrub duelists who could never hope to match your godliness.
You met Squiddy? Dang he was such a noob lol
Now DN is down for "Legal Reasons", which sucks. Thankfully, I bought "Legacy of the Duelist" for PS4 soon after.
***** Yeah but he sure as hell was god damned entertaining to watch. Love him, hate him, Squiddy was fucking hilarious. Every duel was a gem.
Locoman4000 I wouldn't know admittedly. Only ever played TCG, OCG, and with friends. Never met Squiddy. XD
Locoman4000 Squiddy? Who the heck is he? Where could I see his games? And how was someone like him allowed to continue playing?
I cheat by using mentalist tricks and passing it off as being psychic in order to make my opponents choke by going "your hand is bad, I know that you will lose, it's been foretold by faith" lol it's basically cold reading and then messing with your opponent like you do in poker
I wouldn't really call that as cheating. More like psyching them out.
I use perfume to do this, works everytime
The psychic act? Please, it's so much easier to use magic these days. Or aliens.
Just don't cheat -,- come on people it's just a game
exactly
+Hameed Paul got a friend that cheated often. Funny enough, he would lose most of the duels anyways. It's like they know they'd lose without it, whether their cards suck or they're getting out played, so it's all they have. A shame, but especially worse when there's money involved like in these big tournaments
Yeah, it's hard to ignore doing the wrong things when they are open to you often.
Tom Ostrowski that can make you lose your soul
Tom Ostrowski sometimes its for money i always betted money
You forget that Esper Roba also wanted people to take his babies from him. ;)
How to prevent cheating: Punch/kick/headbutt the cheater and then tell everyone the punk called you a racial slur. Problem solved! (Please know that I am joking.)
Because sadly these days the implication of racism is considered worse than actual violence.
Magikarpador It is...
I'd do that all the time but as a cis hetero white male it wouldn't work very well.
Are you talking about the legendary card crazy Rico?
Ok, I'll cop to one of my old methods that I used during casual play, although this is for MTG. One of the central themes of one of my decks involved elves that let me search my library for land (until such time as I could snowball with high-mana cards). Cutting your opponent's deck at the beginning is fairly common to keep it honest, but if you shuffle enough during play, your opponent gets complacent, allowing you to shuffle something towards the top, if only to speed things up (try not to shuffle a good card RIGHT on top, a card or three down to avoid suspicion).
A girlfriend once caught me at it while she was watching, told me never to do it again... against her, and to not call her out on it in the future when she does it to others.
One of them should have been cap gs stream
He has on dn only. Pros doesn't allow cheating. And it was all the time on every stream on D.N.
+sarthak arora lol I know it was a joke dude cause ygo pro does it for him ahhahaha
+Team Critical exactly ahhahahaha
Adding subtitles would make watching this way more enjoyable, this is (to be harsh) a slideshow with mp3 in the background.
This video and the comments section has taught me many ways the cheating is done.
I am both ashamed and scared to ever play in a tournament after knowing how far people will go just to win a game that has no positive effect on their lives.
I honestly pity all those who have intentionally cheated just to win a match. That's just plain sad.
Winning does have a positive effect tho i mean its the goal of the game
I remember facing a little punk who was using ordeal of the traveller, he kept saying I was wrong but ordeal says you have to reveal the card to prove it, luckily a judge was passing by and he saw him cheat.
I was also the victim of the opponents team mates being behind me, and texting my hand to the opponent, one duel I quit cause every card I drew a guy behind me said out loud nice draw man giving my opponent a heads up, I have faced all types of cheaters
the way i cheat if im about to lose because of an attack, i keep asking if they're sure they want to attack. This goes on for about 5 mins or so until either i convince them to stop or they just quit
I used to do that in school🤣🤣🤣
just make ONE official digital pvp game already with all cards in existance and different formats
nick bio Yu go oh duel links the mobile app is quite close with some small differences
What we really need is an official game (preferably cross-platform) where you pay once, get access to all the currently available cards (even region exclusive) through single-player gameplay alone (no paid DLC or pay2win). For multiplayer, it could let players define the format they want to use (amount of each card allowed/total deck size/number of players/starting life points/teams). For change in number of players, they'd have to finally release some official rules on it, instead of players having to guess based on the anime/manga. And maybe then, they'd actually release PSCT for ALL the cards, not just whichever ones they've chosen to reprint.
zombiedude347 hahahaha they would never do that, thats losing free money
My favorite thing is to go full on Bandit Keith and hide cards from people. There's a couple ways you can go about it, too.
Either you start out with a deck around 39-37 cards (because no one's going to be able to spot that difference at a glance and anyone who's not making bread is asking for a deck count turn 1) and hide Odd-Eyes and friends in a wristband or something. Brim of a hat works best, since you can reach up with where you're holding your hand like you're going to scratch and pop it in there, and no one's the wiser. Also improves your draw rate by a little opening game, so that's helpful.
Or you just use a standard deck and keep a few copies of something on hand to pull out whenever you need to. Works especially well if it's just a really good card that you can have a few copies of without arousing suspicion (even better if it's unlimited), so you can hide a second or third copy somewhere on you for fun and it's not all like, "Boy, you sure do draw that Raigeki whenever you're in trouble, don't you?"
Both are a lot harder to check than people assume they'd be, since just about everyone does the rapid hand shuffle to look through their cards, so no one's likely to catch an extra one as they're all whizzing by. You can even take it a step further and hide it in your open hand when you go to draw and act like you just topdecked that card on your turn. Can even have a friend go by and draw their attention away for half a second when you're pulling it off.
And I only feel confident telling people how to do this because you actually have to have some skill in dealing cards and sleight of hand to pull it off convincingly and not fuck up and get banned for life. Choose wisely.
Cap you forgot one chet: using two tuners and no non-tuners for a synchro summon. Yes cap I remember when you did it with Karakuri on stream when DN was still a thing.
Thanks for bringing that intro back.
The best cheating strategy of all. Play Yu-Jo Friendship while having Unity in your hand to force them to accept the handshake but before offering the handshake cover your hand in shit. If your opponent refuses he will be disqualified. It might not even be cheating but its definitely dirty.
Yo, Cap! Great video, as always. Perhaps a future video could touch up on how to prevent people from chetting? That'd be useful.
I only played the game with a friend of mine. He lend me a deck of his (weaker), then we played with extra rules that I did not know were fake. No need to sacrifice (except special summons) and before you start your turn you draw to have 6 cards.
Did I mention that he had the gods, envoy of the beggining, envoy of the end.
At one time even with all those cards he lost, he played envoy of the end he thought he had the killing damage, but he miscalculated and when. I told him he had lost and he made some bullshit rule that made him win. Even with all that he lost.
Let me remind you that that was my first and only game. I thought man I am never going to play this game ever again and I didn't. THE END
It's a shame that your friend ruined it for you. It's a fun game to play when you no the proper rules an ways to play.
You can play it again, just don’t play with it with him again
I think one that's very overlooked is trying to activate cards that you can't for the sake of baiting out back row. A good example is that you can very easily activate poly with no material monsters in hand for the sake of luring out a warning and your opponent would have no idea.
back in the days over here in Thailand the game practically had no rules. Everyone tried to be anime or outright made up rules
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Hey verlis
you play YuGiOh!!!!! lol
the hell? Verlis you play yugioh?!?
What are you doing here Verlis?
Verlis why are you on keemstar, runescape, and yugioh videos lol
loved the pictures that you used for each cheating method.
JAAAAAAADGE!
The technology problem of feeding info to players is actually taken care of in other games. In both magic and force players are only allowed to use pen and paper to keep track of life totals
I hate cheaters there's was this kid in high school because he didn't had mean friends so me and my friend every day at lunch we play yugiyo but he cheated all the time like he doubled flip coin like he flips it we're it falls off the table but he counts it when it landed on the side he needed he hides cards up he's jacked but we didn't caught on but one time he was late to class he forgot the quarter we were useing i pick it up it was double sided then show my friend he went to fuck him up but we just never hang or talk to him again like he never existed
Well I might be guilty of a few things on the list but I'm trying to learn this game all over again.
One method of cheating that's actually pretty hard to catch someone on: drawing 1 fewer card (skipping your own draw phase), then calling a judge to accuse your opponent of drawing an extra card.
Isn't that extremely *easy* to catch though? I mean, if you end your turn and your opponent doesn't draw right away, they've skipped their draw phase.
And I haven't actually been to an IRL tournament before, but shouldn't there be a judge watching the duel at all times, to prevent exactly this sort of shit? If they just show up to address issues when called by a player, they're just a mediator, not a judge.
One cheat I've seen is when a player skips draws off Maxx "C" when their opponent is trying to deck them out with a string of special summons
I'm sorry but cheating in the game is no fun a game is to have fun win lose its the same
What are you going to get by cheating, it's a game made by rules where you proof your skills and keep trying yo get better, Cheating in this game makes no sense.
+sarthak arora If youre at a large tournament it does considering the people who top usually get prizes
still doesn't justify shit...
sarthak arora You can sell that shiny piece of paper for hundreds
+Perv2dMax
exactly
trimming cards was a big one too, it's why Konami forced the sleeve rule.
Also, there was this one time a guy in a YCS did more than one battle step?
using extra thick card sleeves so you can have a smaller deck without your opponent realising so you always get good draws
that is not cheating, every card Sleeves will make your Deck bigger than a deck without sleves, and in a Tournement you even count the cards in the deck
yes....because every duel is a tournament match that starts with you counting every card in your opponents deck
A good "cheaters never prosper" story is of one of my friends using a monster that boosted the attack "Number 39: Utopia" when it was XYZ Summoned. He always stacked his deck to get that card in his first few draws. Everyone in my group still beat the combo and him almost every time.
Y u didn't stream yesterday everyone was expecting a stream u own us one
At least we got Chetner to stream
he doesnt owe you anything
I once new a guy who would attempt 2 look @ the top card of his deck or search his deck during ur turn when he thought u weren't paying attention
Stalling is cheating? I'm confused.
In tournaments the duel is timed if you run out of time the player with the most lifepoints wins
Intentionally stalling without the use of card effects technically is. It's an honor thing. It's kinda douchy to run the clock down so you can grab a draw when you know you would lose. Trust me, I've had it done to me before. Was not happy.
People who look through their extra and grave like 7 times a turn
Perv2dMax Oh. That's horrible. I think that if the time runs out and it's your turn, you should lose.
owlflame Actually, that guy kinda simplified it. In tournaments, if time runs out, you go into a special stage. There are six turns, from 0 to 5, and the player who was on their turn as the timer went off takes turn 0, then the opponent takes turn 1, then you take 2, etc, until 5. After the End Phase of turn 5, the person who has the most life points wins. That said, there is NO clock in overtime, so you can stall all you want, which I hate, considering the pricks at my locals hold up the whole shop during the overtime proceedings of round 5 and I have to drive an hour home. It's really rude.
My favorite one is the fitting information about your opponent's hand to his opponent
Yet another reason why I switched to hearthstone :(
Pay to win ResidentSleeper
It isnt, North American Nationals was won by like a $50 deck
Pendulum won European Nationals and the deck costs like $100, dont bad mouth my channel when yours is fucking irrelevant..
The blue eyes deck that won world's this year is pretty expensive though iirc.
if u don't like what he post it simple just don't watch straight up u idiot
“Life points are invaluable” never thought I’d hear that about yugioh
How is stalling cheating? its a strat, war of attrition. It may be annoying and very stale but its a viable way to play.
Lohengrin "stalling" is a viable strategy yes *cough cough* Gravity Bind. However I believe that stalling in this case refers to intentional slow play, not stalling through card mechanics.
Hikaru Blaze I respectfully disagree. I think what he was getting at is Intentionally using stalling cards and as he mentioned "a turtle like defense" in hopes your opponent was not able to deal with it to be able to get a win or a draw.
Though I agree its a cheap and honor-less way to get a win and sometimes knock out a player. However, (IMO) as a pro you should be ready for it.
The video was about Cheating, as in breaking the rules. Which all of the other examples are. This one example only seems as an exploit of game mechanics, which technically is not against rules (as far as i know it).
Lohengrin I'm a little late to the party here but he mightve meant turtle-like as in the Shell
but things like intentionally asking ruling for the sake of wasting time or purposely sitting there pretending to think about your move qualifies as stalling
d00blz Right, but as i mentioned. The video references cards that use a stalling feature. Rather than the annoyance of wasting people's time.
However, im not so sure either would be considered cheating, per se. Cheap, yes. Honor-less, yes. Boring, maybe. Cheating, id say no.
Although i am willing to see otherwise if there is an official ruling out there.
Lohengrin I think there is an official rule and penalty for intentional stalling, not related to game mechanics that is. I believe it's Slow Play.
You can still stack your deck by having cards in the same order before power shuffling and it'll give off the illusion of fairness, this works flawlessly as long as you don't cut the deck before the 2nd power shuffle
why u support ygopro and not devpro? devpro>ygopro yo
devpro is buggy as hell and it isnt available on mac
MegaCapitalG lmao, who uses a mac tho? #pcmasterrace and buggy? ygopro is buggy too, devpro bugs are fixed insanely quick.
+xbon1 He just told you who uses a mac, he does
felix ruffle nah he didn't, he just said it ain't available on mac, but nobody even uses macs for gaming cuz that's not what they for, if you game on mac you gotta use shit like bootcamp or whatever they got nowadays, they ain't for gaming, they're for editing.
+xbon1 I wouldn't really consider playing a card game "gaming" in the first place. The graphics are minimal and the game does not even need to be ran at high framerates. It's kind of like saying that if you play minesweeper you need a fully decked out i7 with water cooling and 3 gtx 1080s with a 4k monitor and a high quality soundcard. it just isn't necessary. some people just want to have a bit of fun with a card game, ya know? :)
Double normal summons is something I'm guilty of, but it is never intentional.
It's usually when playing a combo deck where you normal summon to get to your combo, but the combo requires a normal later on.
I had an opponent adding 3 extra cards to the top of his deck after cutting at an LLDS. Called it out and called judge, we counted the deck; 43 cards.
They had no way of making sure he had added them besides my word for it, so we cut out 3 random cards and played on.
My friend told me he was a cheater before the match, and said he cheated with remaking moves after making a mistake. The cheater went on and won the event, got an invitation, a playmat, and a box of TDIL.
My favourite is looking at the top of your deck and then drawing the next card if it's bad.
Iv always liked the idea of using 2 different size card sleeves, if you or your opponent cuts a deck with two different size card sleeves its more likely that their fingers will catch on to the larger ones, meaning that cards in slightly smaller card sleeves have a better chance of being in your opening hand, Ive tested this method myself at home with different color card sleeves with my eyes closed and it works but have never actually used it in a game, i got the idea from playing with a deck of regular playing cards that where cut so that you could manipulate the outcome, but im sure im not the first to think of it.
you can select five cards and put them on your lap then after youve shuffled and the opponents split your deck you can add the five cards that you want up top by keeping it underneath your hand and lay your hand up top of deck then add the cards up top of the deck by pretending to straighten the deck
In tournaments I would always insist on my opponent, cutting the deck face down on the table, and I would do the same for their deck. Thus preventing them possibly seeing the bottom (or any) card/s.
Honestly, the way I see people cheat a lot is when using Effect Veiler. People will use it during the battle phase or during their own turn, when the card clearly says in the first sentence "During your opponent's main phase"
I've seen a lot of people try to do that. Use it outside when it is supposed to be used
How about sneaking an extra card into your hand while searching for a specific card via card effect?
2:35 Yep first erratum Fake Trap. I bet nobody got that card effect right back then.
That card shuffle card can used by and against a Spyral deck. If a Spyral opponent uses drone to set up your top 3 cards use that to change it. If you are a Spyral deck you can see the top card of your opponent's deck and if you don't like it you can shuffle it at the end of your turn after you know what it is and do your Spyral thing.
I remember one time I had a three-way duel, and one of my opponents (let's call her Alice) was significantly more competent than the other (we'll call him Bob). At one point, Bob attacked one of my monsters, which - say it with me - ACTIVATED MY TRAP CARD. I don't remember exactly what the card was, but its effect was something like "Play this card when one of your monsters is attacked. The opponent loses Life Points equal to the attacking monster's ATK points." Since there weren't any real rules in place for a three-way duel, the card only said "the opponent" without specifying "the opponent whose monster attacked you", so I decided to have the damage go to Alice instead of Bob. After I explained the decision, Alice conceded that, no, there technically weren't any rules against it.
sounds like magic cylinder's effect.... in this case, the damage should've gone to bob since it was his monster declaring the assault
having long hair and earplog in your ear, while a friend is watching from distance and talking in his phone or the microphone in the earplogs and u hear everything.
This is why I like the video games..... you are still playing the same game, but many of these tricks cheaters use can't work when the cards are made of 1s and 0s.
Ye, Im thinking of sticking to games after watching this XD
Have your friends stand right up behind you when you're dueling so nobody else can see your hand
Also, the final cut should go to a neutral party to prevent your opponent from fuking with your deck. (Also any shuffle during the should go to the neutral party too)
Performing an illegal move subtly so that it goes unnoticed until several turns later when the duel has advanced so far that there's no way to really take it back even if it is noticed and you could easily create confusion over whether or not the move was done legally or not.
I went to a tournament once where a guy brought his little brother and the little brother would sit behind who his brother was playing and flat out say "Oh I love *Card's name here*"
We thought "Oh just a dumb kid" then we found out later they planned it after that we started playing with our hands down to the table .. Suddenly that guy started losing a lot more
I remember force shuffling my enemy's deck before giving it back just to mess him like oh I know the cards in your hand and which card you draw it's hard to shuffle cards like that but when you pull it off you just show off like that
Some of the things you mentioned are rules that have been commonly broken without knowing. Is there a way you can make sure to at least not forget about things like those? Also, how is intentional slow play cheating?
And that's how Randall Supposedly top his Regionals Kappa
Lying about cards happened to me on nationals. I wasnt even kid my oponent was. He was german and was using german card without translation note(we were not in german nor austria). i could not reserve judge just for myself for translation so i had no other option. He used fire hand to summon another fire hand twice in row. What was even worse was that his friend was standing behind him and turned to him with every card if he should play it. Judge kicked his friend to the corner of room(about 15meter form us) and this kid was still turning to him until judge gave him second warning. To top it of. My country have very small yugioh community. Its so small that we basically know each other so cheater arent thing here. On the other hand germany have big community. So these guys use our country to get easy win for qualification. So basically not only went here to get easy win they also cheated just to get it. I found it after game and i was pissed for rest of the day(i would have won that round)
2 cards in the same sleeve...used to do it in High School against a partially blind friend...
I'd say the sneak draw would be the method I'v used. Not to be confused with drawing an extra card when drawing. This method requires a subtle position of your hand where you slide one finger under the top card and draw the card below it. With sleeves it makes it very difficult to detect. That being said, I'v only ever done this with regular playing cards.
my favorite stall is to get a good defense monster out and then use wonder balloons with sword of deep seated. then i just wait for them to deck out and hope they dont have any despells or cards like that. I know it may piss people off but I have won so many "unwinable" duels that way.
Hiding cards in your hand, swapping the top card of your deck with one from your hand to get a free redraw, attempting to take back a legal move or big play when you realize it won't do what you think it will (i.e. Targeting a card for destruction with an effect, but then assigning a new target when they realize it wouldn't kill the card)
I used to run a gadget deck years ago when those cards are relatively new and I would she try bringing other cards besides my gadgets to my hand. I also then try to reshuffle the deck or to stack the cards in a way that when they were shuffled cards that I wanted were at the top
hey cap why did you not stream last night ?!
Telling my opponent that im using a fun deck, then playing with full-power dragon rulers and saying: "I havent played this deck since 2012" :)
i think seting trap cards and activating them minuts later the same turn
"Now I personally don't have a problem with bribery, it's a victimless crime" Translation; "I've taken part in bribery before and wish I could more often" lol
that hoban Reference in the start XD i think he knew people were going to point that out
oh you caught that XD
+MegaCapitalG uh yeah we did lolz it's very slick though Kappa
+Jeffery Smith true
Life points or accidentally not adding buffs debuffs is something that happens on accident for me often. Same with saying what a card does in the wrong way
You forgot one thing: winning a duel but as a bet on your soul
you missed the card in the sleeve cheat.