Thunderbolt is way too complicated!
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- Опубликовано: 13 дек 2018
- Thunderbolt 3 is an extremely fast and awesome standard however Intel has made it way too hard for the average consumer to get on board. Today I show the steps needed to add a Gigabyte CG-Alpine Ridge Thunderbolt 3 PCI-E add-in card to a 9th Gen Intel CPU and Motherboard. How I fixed it: forum.gigabyte.us/thread/3065/...
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Aw man! I can't thank you enough, All day I freakin spent trying to get this THING to work. I found the same forum as you did but couldn't find the SECRET doorway in the aorus bios. I was just about to sweep up all the hair that I had ripped out of my head and take some pills when I found you Timmy. Thank you - all the best bud : )
You’re a lifesaver. I just got the Titan Ridge version of the card and was just about to send it back!
I'm so glad you mentioned Firewire - this totally reminds me of my childhood playing multiplayer with my brother connected over firewire by our soundblaster cards!
REALLY?! HA!
I'm currently using firewire to connect my Onyx-i 802 and using it everyday.
I'm sorry but thunderbolt is basically what FireWire was going to be just more harder to get and way overpriced
Thunderbolt reminds me of having to have a card for everything back in the day and hoping your motherboard even supports the card.
Oh god! I remember those days.
It's getting a lot better over these years.
what, you didnt like having 2 GPUs and a Physx Card along with your sound blaster, modem and wifi add in cards, some more usb 2.0 and firewire combo cards along with a sata pci add in card for more drives? Fill out them slots baby! An empty slot is a missed opportunity xD
@@razorsz195 this is why when I part out a build I leave no slot unattended. Now I can’t wait for usb4 cards to drop.
@@MisterRorschach90 When i eventually upgrade i cant wait to add pci-e nvme expansion cards, a capture card and a soundblaster card n perhaps some other things like thunderbolt 3, ain't all about the cpu n gpu, id prefer ditching these HDDs for all nvme gen 3/4 storage, a big ol punch into new hardware where pretty much everything on my system will change to new standards, which for me i think is the best time to upgrade rather than swapping a gpu in and calling it set, wait until stuff changes and becomes affordable, like AGP to PCi-e was, now from usb 3.0 to thunderbolt 4 later this year, huge step ups in every catagory. IMO storage has been left behind on the whole tech boom, at least from an affordability standpoint, same with interfaces, soon type A shall diminish into type C being standard, peripherals will be wireless and affordable, will be cool to see how PCs change where IO shields are full of mini ports and expansion slots are gone completely, perhaps GPU die will be socketed, who knows!
Dude thank you so much! I've been searching everywhere to get this to work and it finally works!!!
hi sir i have a x570 aorus ultra rev motherboard. 1.2 which has a 5-pin THB_C header.
I got a GC-TITAN RIDGE 2.0 but I can't get it to show up on my windows 11
in my bios I do not find any option related to thunderbolt
What could I do? connect the 5-pin cable, the PCI Power cable and the 7-pin USB cable
I have everything connected I do not understand how I could make it work any idea? where could i look in the bios to configure it?
wow thank you. bless your soul sir. ive been battling the my thunderbolt interface troubleshooting for a few months now
I love, I really love, your video! I am sitting on this for 3 days now and I can't find a card fitting my MSI z490 Mobo! Your whole video fits so much how I feel. I swear, I never related more to something
Does any of them titan alpine 1.0 or 2.0 work on x399 designare ex 1.0 with th3 header? I see they delete thunderbolt3 ad features add on option when I bought mb. Now its 4/16/2020. I have tr 1920x cpu.
my clevo laptop has a thunderbolt port which was an optional add on. I added it but might be a waste of money. Considering now if I should get one of these thunderbolt add in cards on my new z270 gigabyte motherboard. I don't understand the video out ports on this. Are they connected to the same bus as your motherboards video outputs? So you can use them with the iGPU of your CPU and have multiple monitors connected, is that it?
I’m confused so if I buy a thunderbolt 3 pcie card will it work on my msi x570 Meg ace?
Thanks for your tips... I was able to install this thunderbolt after a few attempts but now I hear a crackling sound when playing apps through my external sound card... my usb 2 doesnt give that crackling sound... do you have any idea why I would be hearing this sound?
Hey i have asus rog strix gl502vmk, so its tunderbolt v2 or v3 ? 20gbs or 40gbs ?
Hello there! I have a Gigabyte MS-7971 Pro motherboard. It supports thunderbolt in bios settings. if i buy any thunderbolt pcie card it will be compatible with my motherboard and can i run it with my thunderbolt 2 sound card?
would this work on my AsusTek P8Z77-V ? i just got a really cheap nas on ebay but it has 4 thunderbolt 3 ports!
Do you if I can add a thunderbolt 3 to a hp slim desk s01 pf1xxx?
Can i install a Thunderbolt 4 expansion card on a Z170-A mobo? I have a z170-a from Asus.
Ok, I'm a bit late to the game but I don't have the Thunderbolt(TM) Configuration option in my bios. I did update to the latest but still nothing. I am using the GS Titan Ridge (not the Alpine as you have). Do you think that might be the cause? Thanks!!
Dude i have a hackintosh thinking about getting this my only question is do you have to download the drives from windows to make it work because I don't have a dual boot i just have Mac os installed on my ssd
Timmy can I buy a pcie thunderbolt card and plug it into my MSI Z77A-G43 motherbard and then I will able to connect my dell WD15 dock into it to access my monitors and keyboard plus mouse? Why I want to do this? To have one dock for all of my thunderbolt laptops and my desktop.
Thanks for answer!
Thanks for the video. So only certain mother boards will work with this card?
will this pcie work with amd ryzen 3900x?
Keep up the good work on showing these kinds of fixes for things. Everyone that ever bought one of those cursed cards probably wishes they had seen this! Also there should be a big red instruction card in the box with the card telling you about that setting and where it may be on different boards. Things like this probably keep the tech support phones ringing off the hook!
you are really an amazing person if no one has told you that yet. THank you.
Great video. Thanks. I bought one of these hoping to use my StarTech MSTCDP123HD THB-C x 3 HDMI adapter and get three extra display outputs. First pass unsuccessful. Have you taken a look at how to do this? I would be most interested in your thoughts and or video?
If you left that drive in the port will it still work after a reboot? For me it doesn't. At least with a UBB-C drive.. I have to unplug it for a bit an plug it back in.
Thank you for this video! my problem was a little bit different. at first I didn't even have a Thunderbolt option in my BIOS, so I had to update the BIOS. after the update the menu was there and GPIO was already enabled and everything just worked!
Hello guys .Who used Asrock Z490 phantom TB3 board with Apple Thunderbold display ?I bought this board but I can’t get video on my Apple TB display.I try change Bios setting but it didn’t work .Please help .
So I found the ASUS ThunderBoltEX card from the X99 series passed through display but what about USB audio to a Thunderbolt Display? This in on an older X58 mobo that never had TN mobo support.
Does the USB c port on the card support fast charge?
I’m currently in the process of setting up my Apollo twin and need a thunderbolt slot. Is this PCI compatible from a gigabyte b460 m ds3h? Someone please help me.
I have a Z87 Expert MB.. What TB3 card can I use for it? I haven't found anything yet. Can someone anyone HELP?
Your fix helped get my MSI Thunderbolt M3 card working! Thank you!
Do you need an Intel motherboard to use a PCI Express Thunderbolt card? Could I use this with AMD
So will this let me use a external hdd with speeds of internal sata hdd so I could use a external hdd and play games through it, I think that's right
I could feel your pain... I'm going through the same thing right now. It's so dumb how difficult this is.
Nice review. I have an x570 aorus master rev 1.0. According to gigabyte page the GC-TITAN RIDGE works with x570 aorus master rev 1.1. I would like to know if it will work with my motherboard. Please Help!
So are there any add on features for laptops like desktops or am I kinda s*** out of luck?
out of curiosity.. Did your sleep and shutdown functionality stop working when you had that card installed?
s there a video that shows the best was to set-up / configure a Thunderbolt 3 network?
ok so vhen u have that thunderbolt header on MoBo, what else u need to make it work,..
Does this work with AMD x570 unify ? I can’t really find an answer anywhere
It's so great feeling, when you've finally made something to work! :)
Anyone know of a thunderbolt pcie card for a small form factor desktop? These are still frustrating to find....
I'm having the same problem you had. I bought the same thunderbolt pcie card but now my cpu doesnt have a slot for it so ordered a riser expansion connector to to plug into my pciex1 slot to pray that it works. If this doesn't work I'm giving up lol. How can I get a hold of you to talk to you? I'd really like to talk about this issue and your the only one who seems to know how to make it work lol.
What motherboard is this? Most of the new z390 motherboards don’t have thunderbolt support
Can you please mention motherboard model you are using in the video ?
Can this work on x570 motherboard formula with amd ryzen 9 3950x?
Thank you so much for this video! I had the pb with the asrock version on the taichi x570, problem solve by positionin the card on last pcie slot.
What is this programm on your monitor? I mean, Windows starts smaller and getting bigger
Thanks, Timmy Joe I still haven't found any way to use my Motherboards built in Thunderbolt connection, and YES, it's frustrating, that I have 3 Motherboards with these onboard, and yet I don't know the right words to ask online to get the right parts to use them. Incidentally, I have an ASUS ROG Maximus Z270 Formula IX was made in, 2014, at that time it was new so no one even then had a clue how to set them up, so everyone I spoke to just said, "What the hell's that for"? Well now it's almost March 2022 and I still can't use It, but I'm looking. I "Subscribed", "Clicked the Bell" and chose "All" to get your content P.S. I don't know when you made this Video, RUclips stopped posting the dates when they were made.
does it work with asus x99 and z170 mobo?
Hi Timmy, i have a question. I have Gigabyte z390 Aorus Pro Motherboard. I want to buy Alpine Ridge but it is not compatible for my motherboard i think. Is that True? Should i buy a Titan Ridge which it is compatible to my motherboard. Thanks.
I intend to buy a Titan Ridge 2.0, I notice, that the Alpine Ridge Card - as the Titan Ridge 2.0 card - has 2 PCI-E power connectors to which you did not connect a cable. What are they for? The Thunderboltports as you showed work without the PCI-E cables connected.
I have PCI 3 Gigabyte motherboard but no THB_C port or kind. Can I still install this ? thanks.
Noone can answer this question because you didn't even list the exact model of motherboard you have... Your motherboard needs a Thunderbolt header on it for one of these cards to work... If you dont know that much, don't even try. BTW... It's called Google, don't be a lazy piece of shit and stop trying to get other people to do your research for you
Thank you for this video, I know its older but you cleared that alpine ridge ghost out of my head. I have a new boxed ga z270x ud5 board with a still boxed 7700k lying around which proclaims thunderdolt compatibility. I think I will sell that since I jumped wagon to an x570s board with an 5800x since I never came to setup the z270 board. I recently obtained a usbc to m.2 housing and built in a 980evo, I think it makes any kind of thunderdolt dabbling obsolete.
Really Nice video. I have Windows 10 installed on 2016 IMac. I'm ytring to connect an audio device with a thunderbolt cable but nothing is showing up. Please HELP
New fangled thunderbolts 🤔 much love Timmy joe
Cant believe you did it, you absolute mad man! Go Timmy Jo!!
I’m with you. It should come standard on all gaming and workstation motherboards as a back panel port. Someday...
My Gigabyte Aorus Pro Wifi has a Thunderbolt header. Call me stupid but what good is it? What do I use it for/with?
I have a question! Can you or anyone help me with this dilemma
I’m trying to get an Apollo twin DUO but it says I need thunderbolt for my pc. I have amd Ryzen and I know the only motherboard that is compatible with it is the ASROCK x570 phantom gaming. I also know that intel NUC has thunderbolt in it. So really, what should I do here?
Or does this asrock card work better. Idk I’m confused.
to test the read and write performance of the drive you could use a ram drive to copy to/from
anyone out there using a titan ridge? i'm wondering about the USB C fast charge capabilities. my phone charges in about 20 or so mins (maybe more, haven't really gauged it) on the wall outlet that came with the phone. i want the same experience while the phone is plugged into the PC. tried the USB C on the back of my mobo, it has issues, sometimes it just doesn't even connect (not sure if it's cord length that's the issue, I can't find shorter cords at the store)... but anyway, will the titan ridge guarantee me fast charge and file transfer?
How i can use thunderbolt port as a type c for my case
God bless you, dude, I was losing my mind trying to figure this shit out and you saved me a lot of effort!
Will this work with a AORUS ULTRA Motherboard?
1:56 Intel Thunderbolt 3 licenses are free. They got rid of the fees entirely half way through 2017. That can be found with 20 seconds on Google. The problem is that the hardware costs money. Even Thunderbolt 3 compatible cables are more expensive, especially longer ones, as the signal quality goes down with length.
"as the signal quality goes down with length" Zeke Levin, I think you need to check that information. I have three different lengths of TB3 chords that are all certified. This guarantees the transfer rate on the medium. I searched for a longer chord and found most to be just as expensive as a genuine TB3 chord, however a certified chord allowed me to sustain the transfer rate with a longer chord. www.cablematters.com/pc-835-132-thunderbolt-3-40gbps-cable-thunderbolt-3-device-compatible-only.aspx
Tiger Lake finally makes Thunderbolt standard on Intel CPUs.
Does the Gigabyte Z490 Vision D Motherboard have a THB_C header?
Doesn't that have on board thunderbolt?
I’m using an older Gigabyte motherboard and the only way to get the Thunderbolt menu to show up at all in peripherals in the bios is to load the optimized defaults or whatever that option is. Otherwise there are zero Thunderbolt options in the Bios. And if you save the config and reboot, if you go back into the bios, it’s gone again. And even when it’s there, the submenu you used to get it to work isn’t there anyway. The motherboard claims to be Thunderbolt ready and has the 5 pin connector for it. So what the hell? And why are the controls for it hidden in the advanced bios view? This is even stuff from the same company and it’s a mess to deal with.
NICE VID!! Which beat is that from Chuk?
Hey, yesterday I was trying to install the same thunderbolt card you have there, onto my z390 mother board. Plugged it in, nothing would work same as you. Went into the bios and found some thunderbolt settings, enabled some stuff (can't really remember) but when I hit save changes and exit, it was like my computer powered off and won't turn back on again. Even though the fans are still on, which would suggest it's on, but nothing is coming up at all. Then I stumbled across this video and thought you may know how I can get this thing working again 😅 thanks
Thank you for this video first off... I was able to plug in my thunderbolt 3 device and it would power on, but one I downloaded some new drivers from Intel's site my device wont power on anymore when I plug it into my pc... I didn't have that bios feature you showed enabled and that's why It wouldn't recognize. NOW I HAVE THIS PROBLEM INSTEADS. Can anyone help me?
I'm having an issue getting thunderbolt 3 to work on Z8 G4, but can only get 2100MB/s disk reads and should be getting 2800MB/s
Wait til PCIe 4 comes out for AMD. double the bandwidth... Does this improve connection speeds or just reduce the numbers of PCIe lanes required for devices?
I'm setting up a Hackintosh but I do not find a PCI-E Thunderbolt board of the same brand of motherboard, I wonder if anyone here uses PCI-E TB board other than MB and if there are problems with compatibility
also what was the overlay that was on your monitor when you were rebooting? was that your recording program? just curious. def wanna talk with you more. I run a venue and I work extensively with projectors and would def be interested in working with you. msg me.
I'm glad you went through all this and made a video about it so I don't have to. When I see thunderbolt I will run away.
Mate, I am about to buy motherboard between Asus and Gigabit. Problem is - One has Thunderbolt header and other has Thunderbolt Connector. Are these same thing? What is a differences between TB Header and TB Connector ?
You should plug in the MB's 6 pin PCI-e connector, and enable that in BIOS, versus running off of the 24 pin.
Hey man I see this video is about 3-4 years old. Lol. Still in 2022 I cant find how Thunderbolt works with a add on gpu. Do u have to plug a display port pass thru from the gpu to tb card? Im trying to get Display keyboard mouse and sound all via a single usb c cable like in a Thunderbolt laptop. So damn hard. Lol
Yeah, they should time police videos. He won't take it down, he got my click....
I'm glad I saw this. I'm having issues with my 5 year old ASUS ROG G751JT and a JetDrive (external PCIe NVME SSD) and I'm trying everything to get Thunderbolt to work right.
Thank you so much Sir! Saved me hours of yanking my hairs out tryna figure this ...The GPIO power configuration works perfect for me.
my freinds 1000 dollar laptop with a 1050 has thunderbolt but i guess its only in the highends of highends
thanks for the video ,like you said there 're not really many good videos about TB on PC. I make music and would like to know if Thunderbolt devices like the Satellite sound processor from UAD run on pc devices with additional TB Card.
I don't know much about any of this to be honest. I have a question, however. Would it be problematic to run your monitors to a dock and then run your dock into that thunderbolt header? I've thought about that before and whether it was possible, or whether it was positive/negative. Just curious. Thanks for the info either way!
I am seeing many cards for Thunderbolt 3 or 4 that have mini displayport in. Do they function just the same as a USB C Thunderbolt 3 or 4 port? Also do I need an APU to use them for video capture or would it somehow work with my graphics card if needed? If anyone knows a FAQ that tells about all of this that would be great. I don't mind if I buy a card that has the mini displayport simply because most of them seem to come with it. I just want wonder if I will be able to use them for anything. Also I would be willing to buy a Thunderbolt 3 or 4 card that has 4 or more Type C ports if such a thing exists. Many of the ones I have seen come with just 2. Cost is not the issue for me so don't be afraid to show what you know. If I don't like it I will simply look at the other ones. I am a PC user and not a Mac user so that should give me more choices. I currently use Windows 10 because I don't really like Windows 11 and I may be willing to give Linux a try too. I would just prefer to try it out on an old PC I don't use until I am confident enough to use it on a machine with all of my stuff on it.
I had the same issue, same card, same board! Fixed it using this bios power method a year ago, i also installed the Intel TB controller which you can launch once in windows to see what devices you have connected to the TB card. My next issue is to figure out how many lanes the card is taking up in relation to how many NVMe drives i have mounted on my motherboard, and if either the NVMe's or the TB card will be slower as a result. I only use the TB card to run a single Antelope Audio interface. TB is a pain!
Do you know if GIGABYTE GC-Titan Ridge (Thunderbolt 3 card) will work on an Asus MOBO or do I need to have Gigabyte MOBO?
If the mobo has a thunderbolt header it should
Ditto what Ben Grogan said! The Gigabyte Titan Ridge appears to be easier to work with and configure. In a supported System, those Bios settings matter. The 5 Pin GPIO Header is suppose to communicate status through the SMBus which seems redundant. Anyway, same Pin Out. In the Bios, what seems to matter most is 1.) Identify PCIe Slot and 2.) the Power Setting - GPIO3 Force Pwr to True / On. Since the GPIO Thunderbolt Header is keyed, no worries about getting it wrong!
Thunderbolt Platform Sequence Control
1. Gnd (Black)
2. Platform Sequence Control (Brown)
3. Platform Sequence Control (Red)
4. Plug_Event (Orange)
5. Power (yellow)
Thanks for review, and I want to add to your review, that not all MB supports thunderbolt. I have no idea about this.
You also need a Thunderbolt socket on your MB, those are also very expensive, I have a USB-C expansion card and all it need additionally is power
If you want to show how fast the transfer speed is use a control like a ramdisk, which bounds it from above in speed.
I don't know why, but for my Gigabyte MB UD4 X99 I couldn't get my computer work with TB... it got stucked in a reboot loop when the Alpine Ridge was connected... I went for Asrock brand (MB and the TB3 AIC) and it worked like a charm. I needed the TB connection for audio interfaces.
Could have use disk mark to show us the disk performance? I am interested to see how much speed that is if its actually worth the hassle. I know TB has other uses but I was interested from the storage side of things. Which maybe its not worth the hassle in that regard, since I can just buy a cheap NVME drive and probably beat this thing.
can you run a EGPU?
Troubleshooting is half to fun! Great vid TJ
Amen to that!
Hey there,
Thank you for sharing this video with us!
i would like to hear your opinion,
Recently i build my new pc, here is a little details:
Updated win 10
Mobo: Gigabyte z3990 aorus ultra
Cpu: i7-8700k
Ram: 32gb
GC-Titan ridge add card
StarTech.com Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt 2 Adapter
Audio interface: uad apollow twin mk2 (thunderbolt)
Now here is the issue:
most of the time the pc doesn't recognise the apollo twin, the only way which get it to work is to un-plug the StarTech Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt 2 Adapter cable from the gc titan card and plug it back! (always work like this)
i tried with different cable,
i also enabled GPIO but doesn't effect!
any idea?
Blessings.
Compatible with B360M BAZOOKA PLUS?
Great idea of using this to daisy-chain a bunch of storage drives….. have you done a video on how?