Rivals: The Mario Kart 64 Speedrun King - Matthias vs. Dan

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  • Опубликовано: 19 авг 2020
  • Rivals: Gamings Greatest Competitors is a video series that covers the greatest rivalries in the history of competitive gaming. The premiere episode features two of the greatest players to ever play Mario Kart 64 and their amazing decade long rivalry that still rages today.
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    NOTE & Spoiler: About the end of the video, Dan never played while Matthias went for the the title of champ, he never defended any of the record he set while Matthias reclaimed them.
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Комментарии • 564

  • @leafgreensniper13
    @leafgreensniper13 Год назад +87

    I think the fact that Dan had to go to the lengths he did was because of Matthias’ ability to constantly retake records proves Matt is the best 64 runner, plus the absolute dominance in live events.

  • @wellybelle
    @wellybelle 2 года назад +545

    honestly Matthias' 8 times at 31/32 is way more impressive than Dan's 32/32 because he was actually giving his competition a transparent, fair shot at going after or defending times. I'd struggle to call his accomplishment illegitimate since it still took a lot of work, but it's certainly cowardly. how anyone could take any pride in doing it this way is beyond me

    • @chekklist6501
      @chekklist6501 2 года назад +15

      Cope

    • @pg-erk3938
      @pg-erk3938 2 года назад +9

      I dont think dan had 32/32. Just that he a better formula after the unhoarding making him #1

    • @doublejazz
      @doublejazz 2 года назад +37

      @@pg-erk3938 Dan got 32/32 more recently so its not covered in this video

    • @MrIcenice44
      @MrIcenice44 2 года назад +3

      In a larger community, anyone sharing this opinion would have been drowned out. Just an observation

    • @bervin3232
      @bervin3232 2 года назад +12

      lmao shut up. The world records are insanely optimised, Dan's 32/32 is more impressive.

  • @mechanicallycreative9788
    @mechanicallycreative9788 3 года назад +116

    What I find funny about 31/32 is it's a better story, and in some ways more impressive, with the 2nd 3rd 4th 5th etc guys all coming together, MR taking months off every year, and still killing these dudes. He's as impressive regardless. Dudes always on must be an initials thing. MJ MR.

  • @HexenDarkside
    @HexenDarkside 3 года назад +416

    Found this after re-watching SummoningSalt's video, and what a find it was. Hearing personal interviews from everyone involved, as well as learning about Dan's hoarding just added much more to the story. Great work, super underrated.

    • @elriaastryder2430
      @elriaastryder2430 3 года назад +20

      Ikr? Summoning Salt's Video was just about the world records but this was more focused on the live events and interactions between the players plus interviews and personal toughts. Great video!

    • @HoldenMagroin2
      @HoldenMagroin2 2 года назад +34

      Summoning salt says he won't cover the 32/32.. says the really story is what Mattias did not the scumbag moves Dan did

    • @lytrelltanks9982
      @lytrelltanks9982 2 года назад

      @hexendarkside I feel the same the interview at 25:10 when he gave the trophy made me smile

    • @dr.aisaitl7439
      @dr.aisaitl7439 Год назад +17

      SummoningSalt gives no attention to cheaters or poor sports

    • @DarthBane-zf8wv
      @DarthBane-zf8wv Год назад +1

      @@dr.aisaitl7439 Those at the top will always have haters

  • @luanssk
    @luanssk 3 года назад +195

    Great video! Well, it is easy to put out that Matthias could have reached 32/32 had he not published the records that put him to 30/32 or 31/32, which would let the community thinking he wasn't so close to having the greatest achievement in mk64 ever. What Dan did was exactly that, but only to dethrone the REAL GOAT.

  • @tog4419
    @tog4419 2 года назад +87

    what Dan said at 1:03:16 onwards is so funny to look back on, the hypocrisy

    • @Maple_Jokes
      @Maple_Jokes 2 года назад +5

      LOL

    • @DarthBane-zf8wv
      @DarthBane-zf8wv Год назад +6

      People shoulda tried to stop Dan. 🤷‍♂️

    • @Trevorischillin
      @Trevorischillin Год назад +18

      @@DarthBane-zf8wv kinda hard to stop him when he didn't even post his times, are you trolling?

    • @DarthBane-zf8wv
      @DarthBane-zf8wv Год назад +6

      @@Trevorischillin He had two thirds of his times posted. If a World Record is so easily beaten, it should be improved.

    • @Trevorischillin
      @Trevorischillin Год назад +22

      @@DarthBane-zf8wv that means he hoarded 10 wr times and dropped them all at once. If you don't see the issue you are being purposefully ignorant.

  • @jonatha_nbarron
    @jonatha_nbarron 3 года назад +194

    Hey man, this is great, but I had a really hard time following who was talking most of the time- maybe have the names pop up every time someone is talking next time?

  • @PushyPushyPhoenix
    @PushyPushyPhoenix 3 года назад +139

    If there's an anti-Dan slant towards the end, I feel that comes solely from reporting the response of the community - not from the framing or narration or even the interviews. This is what a documentary should be. Well done. 🎮🍍

    • @sECUREij
      @sECUREij 2 года назад +9

      The dudes as asshole man

    • @Caleb-gf2oq
      @Caleb-gf2oq Год назад +1

      I see there is a lack of acknowledgment of Dan's achievements. There is a point where it is stated that he "almost" pulled it off. That's false from what I understand of the sport. (I realize this comment is on a year old video but it's a sick documentary)

    • @sECUREij
      @sECUREij Год назад +19

      @@Caleb-gf2oqDude hoarded a bunch of WRs not giving any of his competition a fair chance at beating him before he ever got 32/32 simple as that.
      Imagine if you were an MMA fighter and you’re told your competions name but not his size weight or record.

  • @EvilApple567
    @EvilApple567 3 года назад +97

    Disgustingly underrated, I hope people don't write this video or especially your channel off as a Summoning Salt/Bismuth knock off, this is incredibly well done and detailed beyond what could be reasonably expected. Getting the players' side of the story is definitely a welcome change of pace from the former-mentioneds' style as well.
    I've seen those live event videos every so often but (as with most niche hobby corners of the internet) never imagined it went this deep with so much history between the top competitors.

    • @TheBluePhoenix008
      @TheBluePhoenix008 2 года назад

      If probably isn't a knockoff. At best it's inspired.

    • @abbyelectric
      @abbyelectric 10 дней назад

      I definitely wouldn't say "SummoningSalt knockoff", perhaps just more inspired, at least in the music and storytelling style.

  • @jerrycool5638
    @jerrycool5638 3 года назад +196

    This is legitimately the best Speedrunning documentary I’ve ever seen.

    • @Kenny-lx5ws
      @Kenny-lx5ws 3 года назад +13

      You should try summoning salt too!

    • @Kenny-lx5ws
      @Kenny-lx5ws 3 года назад +1

      @@TupieSan ???

    • @TupieSan
      @TupieSan 3 года назад

      @@Kenny-lx5ws lol sorry fell asleep while watching this.

    • @2yoyoyo1Unplugged
      @2yoyoyo1Unplugged 3 года назад +9

      Summoning Salt just got disrespected.

    • @strat5520
      @strat5520 3 года назад +4

      Tou watch your mouth! Blasphemer! Summoning Salt is the greatest

  • @myblackaura
    @myblackaura 2 года назад +138

    1:30:39 to get to "The Unhoarding". Shoutout to Matthias for his retirement from MK64, and for being one of the greatest speedrunners in history. Other dude isn't even worth mentioning.

    • @lowercaseletters_
      @lowercaseletters_ 2 года назад +2

      Thanks for timestamping!

    • @turbo8628
      @turbo8628 2 года назад +27

      Thank you. Was an absolute scumbag move. Took away MR's shot at MJ in the process as well which is an extra kick in the nuts.

    • @skipfred
      @skipfred 2 года назад

      What other dude?

    • @TurboPikachu
      @TurboPikachu 2 года назад +7

      @@skipfred nobody

    • @lowercaseletters_
      @lowercaseletters_ 2 года назад +2

      @@skipfred Dan

  • @D-DUBZTHE-BOSS-
    @D-DUBZTHE-BOSS- 3 года назад +148

    "DAN IS A CHUMP!" HELL YEAH! YOU TELL EM MATTIAS!

  • @TheDevbear
    @TheDevbear Год назад +55

    The betrayal in Matt's voice around 1:36:00 breaks my heart. What a genuinely nice guy. I hope Dan has reflected and realised what he did was wrong and dishonest, and learnt to change. There's no victory in deceit.

    • @brandonizaguirre2963
      @brandonizaguirre2963 Месяц назад +1

      Wtf are you on about when talking about deceit? 😂 What Dan did wasn't illegal in any sense. All is fair in love and war.

    • @Skonkgasm
      @Skonkgasm Месяц назад +1

      There is victory in deceit no matter how salty the loser is.

  • @keiharris332
    @keiharris332 3 года назад +110

    Highly under rated creator. Glad the algorithm finally revealed you to me! keep pushing my friend! You'll break through!

    • @Abyssoft
      @Abyssoft  3 года назад +16

      Thanks for taking the plunge and clicking the video! I hope you enjoy the content!

    • @il9375
      @il9375 3 года назад +1

      yes , so high quality for so a small channel

  • @thatguyfromak5190
    @thatguyfromak5190 3 года назад +38

    I’m not a speed runner but something about hearing about the records and the people involved always gets me hooked, and this is one of the best documents period I’ve seen on RUclips. Engrossing and informative while still being understandable for more casual eyes. I was rooting for Dan way up until the end when it turned out he resorted to such an underhanded method to finally beat the man who one upped him in every encounter they had, and Matitas might just be one of the best MK players I’ve ever heard of, and definitely the kind of person worthy of the respect he gets. Great stuff, this shit could be a movie and yet I’m sure this would still be the better telling of it all.

    • @enting1991
      @enting1991 3 года назад +21

      What the video doesn't tell is that Dan even one-upped his scumbaggery by breaking his promise to not go for the champ title again until he'd beat all of his own hoarded WRs. It was one of the things MR and Dan agreed on when they discussed on how to continue after the unhoard, and Dan wanted to do that so he would "erase" the hoarded WRs by beating them live on his stream. However, he never did. He broke his promise and never beat a number of his own hoarded WRs, and instead played other courses strategically to attack Matthias and to gain him champ status again. It was ultimately Matthias, just a couple weeks ago, who finally improved the last of Dan's hoarded WRs. So it took almost a full year to beat the last hoarded WRs - when usually Matthias could take back WRs in hours or days.
      However, the hoard will basically never be "undone". Dan improved for 15 months and now has a huge lead in experience on some courses where Matthias needs weeks (!) of grinding to get into WR territory. Weeks that Dan uses to improve other WRs again. It basically reversed the roles where now Matthias has to attack and Dan can defend. That obviously is a huge advantage and it could've taken Dan years to get into this position if he hadn't hoarded, but Matthias got into that position years ago without ever hoarding - so it CAN be done if you're the better player. The hoarding set back the MK64 community by at least a year.
      I'm always confused how people can still cheer for Dan. His hoarding was bad enough, but breaking his own promise made it so much worse (in my opinion). It showed that he wasn't ever really sorry for his hoarding, he doubled down on his underhanded behaviour. He only cares about champ status. He doesn't care about the health of the community or competition. Dan could get 32/32 (which he never will even get close to because he's not as good as Matthias) and he'd still not be anywhere near as great as Matthias, because being "the best" requires qualities he simply doesn't have. Matthias = GOAT.

    • @SlimShadid
      @SlimShadid 3 года назад +5

      @@enting1991 here here Ente! Absolutely agree with you.
      MR lost the ability to defend his title from the top of the hill (which he earned when he took the championship from MJ) and now has to battle Dan going uphill. While I think MR is still the more talented player, its very close, but the advantage belongs to the champion, in any competition. Thats why Dans status as champion is not regarded with the same esteem, even after all the hoarded times got beaten, because he never had to do the harder job of climbing up the hill.
      Also, people tend to think that MR should have just kept grinding times that he already had the record on (or perceived to have the record on) but this does not make sense, when the battle at the top is for number of WRs, not how much can you optimize a single course.

    • @thatguyfromak5190
      @thatguyfromak5190 Год назад +2

      @@enting1991 Another year and now Matthias holds more records in the category than Dan. It just further cements Matthias's place in the community and regulates Dan to more of a unpleasant footnote.

    • @KazeJay777
      @KazeJay777 Месяц назад

      ⁠​⁠@@enting1991very well said.

  • @NekaSulia
    @NekaSulia 3 года назад +75

    my first reaction was summoningsalt did this first, but then I continued watching and realized that what summoningsalt did was only a small portion of this. I enjoyed hearing about the live events. I enjoyed the interviews. Good video

  • @thetimssportstalk3160
    @thetimssportstalk3160 2 года назад +178

    Imagine playing football, and being able to hide all your scores until the end of the season to then take wins away from you opponent without them knowing they need to score more to win. Yea, that just ruins the competitive aspect of the game

    • @sECUREij
      @sECUREij 2 года назад +61

      Not only that. BUT telling your competitors you’re behind them the entire time.

    • @abruhigoham7472
      @abruhigoham7472 Год назад +1

      Great analogy.

    • @franchstar1
      @franchstar1 Год назад +16

      @@Rinstor why would matthias try to break his own records when going for 32/32, would just be waste of time and not pushing towards his goal.. this was just scummy..

  • @ssmupi
    @ssmupi 3 года назад +48

    This video is on another level, had me glued to the screen the entire time! Incredible!
    We demand more! :D

    • @Abyssoft
      @Abyssoft  3 года назад +12

      More is on the way!

  • @inheritedwheel2900
    @inheritedwheel2900 3 года назад +94

    waiting for the algorithm to pick u up...

    • @jeff2758
      @jeff2758 3 года назад +1

      Like comment and share, every bit helps.

    • @TheEternalLightning
      @TheEternalLightning 3 года назад +2

      Its Getting There... Randomly Got A Suggestion For Him Recently. Subbed Today

    • @StegoReviews
      @StegoReviews 3 года назад +2

      It has happened, got recommended his stuff lately

    • @haruhisuzumiya6650
      @haruhisuzumiya6650 3 года назад +1

      It happened

    • @evans9951
      @evans9951 3 года назад

      Helped thx

  • @Appiration
    @Appiration 2 месяца назад +2

    To quote Scrubs' Dr. Cox...
    "There’s nothing wrong with a one hitter there Barbie. In fact, it’s miraculous... and I won’t have you of all people cheapen what should be an endless pursuit of perfection just because you want the world to laugh with you tonight..."
    ...really puts Barbie's 32/32 in perspective.

  • @dannycarey5244
    @dannycarey5244 2 года назад +164

    Dan is a chump. Tainted record. Happy retirement to MR. The true GOAT.

    • @ZioStalin
      @ZioStalin 2 года назад +6

      Agree! He's definitely the best player of MK64 who has ever walked on Earth.

  • @WhiteBladeZero
    @WhiteBladeZero 2 года назад +118

    Dan now holds 32/32 and is crowned champion, and Matthias has retired from MK64 because of Dan's unsportsman-like choice to hoard times. Regardless of his skills, I do not believe that Dan deserves that spot. I hope someone better and with true speed running honor can dethrone him once and for all.

    • @yudistiraliem135
      @yudistiraliem135 2 года назад +9

      Matthias tried and failed to reclaim after quite some time is the main reason of him quitting. By the end, it was clear that it's no longer two persons rivalry anymore, Dan was better in all aspect. If someone broke the record he could easily best them because the hoarding record was actually slower than what he was capable of mostly because Dan invested a lot of time by the end of the rivalry. All 32 records are now not because of the hoarding, most players has tried and failed to broke it including Matthias.

    • @Round_Slinger
      @Round_Slinger 2 года назад +47

      Dan broke Mattias' spirit to play

    • @robbys5236
      @robbys5236 2 года назад +2

      Well, at least Abney's going for all the shortcut records, so we have that going for us.

    • @sECUREij
      @sECUREij 2 года назад +43

      @@yudistiraliem135 dude he had an entire group of the best all gunning to take him down. What do you think would’ve happened to Dan had he openly claimed his aims for 32/32. The exact same thing.
      Hyper specialized racers beating his records as he gets them.
      What Dan did was a dick move because it didn’t give any of the other guys running MK64 a chance to beat his records. On top of matthias.

    • @benderboyboy
      @benderboyboy 2 года назад +49

      @@sECUREij I've followed this whole show from the outside, and from everything I see, the A1A and MR were incredibly tight knit. MR welcomed the competition, and have said he loved it. But when Dan played dirty, it literally broke him. He stated as much in his retirement post. Part of the challenge of getting 32/32 was fighting A1A and the runner-up. It's just part of the competition. But if you assassinate the spirit of your runner-up, everything gets easier. Dan couldn't get number 1 and didn't want to face the fight, so he just killed (the spirit of) the next best player. It's disgusting, and people defending him just seems to like the spectacle of sports rather than the spirit of it.

  • @MFMegaZeroX7
    @MFMegaZeroX7 3 года назад +39

    Wow, this is my favorite video you've made yet I think. It even has personal drama!

  • @cowboys2626
    @cowboys2626 2 года назад +3

    Awesome video Abyss, as someone who has followed MK64 records since 2008 this was definitely a trip down memory lane. Thanks for putting in the hard work putting this video together.

  • @zeal865
    @zeal865 2 года назад +205

    Dan is the kind of person you think about when you say we can't have nice things. That's the legacy he's gonna leave.

    • @deviantlord142
      @deviantlord142 9 месяцев назад

      Nah that’s me bruh, y’all gonna see next year 👀

    • @tygrenvoltaris4782
      @tygrenvoltaris4782 7 месяцев назад +3

      He used his brain, unsportsmanlike but a strategy to win and get 32/32

    • @casualhavoc
      @casualhavoc 6 месяцев назад

      @@tygrenvoltaris4782 Absolutely, but using grey areas in the rules to win gets you the title a victory under the rules affords you and nothing more. What *isn't* owed to you, under strictly the rules and nothing else upon winning, is people's respect or their congratulations which ironically is probably the main thing most people are *actually* chasing in gunning for titles like these. That comes by respecting the spirit of the competition, which MR honoured to the highest degree for years on end while Dan completely spat on it for his own convenience.
      Hence the vast vast majority of support under this video and any others about 32/32 being for MR and acknowledging *his* efforts and saying he's truly the best no matter what and that Dan's "official" victory will always have a massive asterisk next to it. With a reception like that, what was the point of getting that victory in the first place when all people will remember about it is the sort of person they see you as for the means you took to achieve your ends? I think what best sums up the legacy Dan created for himself is that when searching "Daniel Burbank" in the YT search bar, the auto-fill suggestions *literally* puts hoarding above 32/32 lmao.
      So tldr, I don't think Dan really did use his brain lol, I think he was blinded by greed and made an incredibly short sighted decision that won him the battle but lost him the war.

    • @tygrenvoltaris4782
      @tygrenvoltaris4782 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@casualhavoc "won him the battle and lost the war"
      I think the opposite. Why should i care about wat others believe in the achievements I did? for example.

    • @casualhavoc
      @casualhavoc 6 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@tygrenvoltaris4782 That's 100% a fair perspective to have. I guess a trade like that really is all about which matters more to you.
      I just personally think that even if you really didn't care at all about the community's opinion on you and how that might be expressed and how that might impact you, it would eventually come to a point where, years later after all the glow of getting 32/32 has faded, having people still criticizing you, judging you way beyond the actual scope of your actions, etc whenever you're even tangentially mentioned would get exhausting or annoying beyond what that short term glow of getting what you wanted was worth. And since Dan clearly has a love of Mk64 speedrunning, the epicenter of all of that criticism will always be precisely where he wants to spend his free time. Idk, just kinda feels like he poisoned the water of a bath he planned to keep sitting in.
      I guess my view on this idea is just down to the fact that a short term reward in exchange for a much longer term negative always seems like an awful tradeoff to me, but I totally get that if you completely dgaf then its a no-brainer that it was worth it.

  • @jeff2758
    @jeff2758 3 года назад +5

    I'm glad I found this, you have a great future here. I love speedrunning videos like this. You will go far. Thank you for giving me something to listen to.

  • @liahansen8291
    @liahansen8291 3 года назад +6

    This is really well put together and super interesting!! Really nice job!

  • @Abducky
    @Abducky 3 года назад +6

    I always struggled to get 1st vs the coms so these players always impress me. Awesome video detailing it!

  • @datguyfoss3915
    @datguyfoss3915 3 года назад +6

    I've really enjoyed your speedrun history videos. Keep up the good work!

  • @connorpearson7513
    @connorpearson7513 3 года назад +6

    Great video, I can't even imagine how much work went into this!

  • @schnitzelThis
    @schnitzelThis 3 года назад +13

    Great work! That was a real nice treat.

  • @Chimpmanboom
    @Chimpmanboom 3 года назад +45

    wtf idk how this got recommended to me with so little views but this was one of the best vids ive ever seen

  • @RaRa-eu9mw
    @RaRa-eu9mw 3 года назад +180

    It really comes down to this: Dan is a good MK64 player, but a bad human being. Matthias is a good MK64 player, and a good person too.

    • @Abyssoft
      @Abyssoft  3 года назад +83

      I understand that lots of viewers don't like what Dan did, but I'd never go so far as to call him a bad human, he's helped out on a ton of my MK64 videos as well as productions made by others. He cares about kart and the community, he just made a mistake when it came to the competitive aspect of the hobby.

    • @RaRa-eu9mw
      @RaRa-eu9mw 3 года назад +148

      @@Abyssoft I understand that he's helped with your videos, but I don't agree that it's one mistake. It's something he did repeatedly, for a year, deceiving everyone online and lying to their faces in person. That's not one mistake - it's who he was, for an entire year. I think it's more likely than not that's who he still is today, and he doesn't show any remorse when talking about it. I just don't think it's forgivable.

    • @zioncoleman3646
      @zioncoleman3646 2 года назад +24

      @@RaRa-eu9mw So you're just going to hold this over his neck for the rest of life? By all means i believe what Dan did was selfish, when It comes to competition there is no room for cheating, but giving him a type of label as "bad human being" is harsh. :/

    • @RaRa-eu9mw
      @RaRa-eu9mw 2 года назад +91

      @@zioncoleman3646 He has done nothing since to earn forgiveness. He's made promises he later went back on. He's made apologies and then said he doesn't really care. In his last stream he even began playing Summoning Salt's playlist to slap MR in the face.
      I absolutely give people the benefit of the doubt, but that has a limit - if you're going to keep forgiving over and over, year after year, then you're just being a sucker.

    • @zioncoleman3646
      @zioncoleman3646 2 года назад +7

      @@RaRa-eu9mw I understand.

  • @whatifgaming1661
    @whatifgaming1661 Год назад +6

    Matthius already had the 31/32. He was basically one mistake away from claiming 32/32, and he did it with complete transparency, allowing his opponents to challenge his records everytime he made one.

    • @jasonulriksen8897
      @jasonulriksen8897 5 месяцев назад

      He was 0.03 seconds away from 32/32. Crazy

  • @paularized1
    @paularized1 2 года назад +2

    So much work put into this vid. Well done. Your channel is gonna boom.

  • @FriskXI
    @FriskXI 3 года назад +11

    Just came back to watch the video now that Matthias is champ again

  • @zioncoleman3646
    @zioncoleman3646 2 года назад +1

    Very underrated video! I wish more people talk about Mario Kart 64, and it's community.
    Great video, Btw!

  • @ARzz-bj5wd
    @ARzz-bj5wd 3 года назад

    Best video I have seen all year, absolutely amazing work, keep it up!!

  • @tobertpohlmann
    @tobertpohlmann 3 года назад +9

    Thanks for the beautiful video. I loved the unusual detail you used for the live meets. Looking forward to your future works.

  • @NickyG_vz
    @NickyG_vz 2 года назад +2

    Great work. Very entertaining and excellent interviews.

  • @ZioStalin
    @ZioStalin 2 года назад +15

    I already see the A1A alliance as stretching the concept of fair play. It would be more fair to let MR get the records before concentrating so much effort into beating him, since he definitely was the best player. Hoarding times to prevent others from doing this to him, on Dan's part, was even more unfair. It wasn't cheating or against the rules, but it's a dirty move nonetheless IMO.

    • @jad4945
      @jad4945 2 года назад +9

      Honestly if Dan hadn't taken part in A1A I would have no problem with the hoarding, I know I'm in the minority on this but I feel like the A1A doesn't just stretch the concept of fair play but smashes it into tiny little pieces. When your opponents are meta gaming I think it's fair to do the same.

    • @VitaEmerald324
      @VitaEmerald324 9 месяцев назад

      I think my problem arises in that Dan both took part in the A1A and committed to hoarding times. The A1A was the public front put up to prevent Matthias’ perfect record. Dan participating in that but also going behind everyone’s back is literally being two-faced.

  • @scottb_02
    @scottb_02 3 года назад +18

    Brilliant work! I now watch these streamers regularly. Hopefully the hatchet can be buried! 3-7-21 Dan has 20 WRs, 5 of which are ties with MR. The vids changing volume and not knowing who was talking my only gripes.

  • @justinurbanich2828
    @justinurbanich2828 3 года назад +18

    I had to watch this again after summoning salt uploaded his most recent video that covered the same topic as the beginning of this video

  • @matthiasrauert8397
    @matthiasrauert8397 Год назад +1

    Man i watched this vid at least five times now. The amount of passion and work u put in ur vids is rly insane.

  • @DaVeganZombie
    @DaVeganZombie 2 года назад +3

    On par with other great SpeedDocs like Summoning Salt and Bismuth, Karl Jobst and TomatoAnus.
    Your in depth additions and going to the players for direct input is a style all its own. Solid.

  • @leta2742
    @leta2742 2 года назад +3

    Didn’t expected to watch the full video in one shot, but omg it is so captivating !
    Maybe just everytime put a text saying who is talking who be perfect !

  • @neobahumut707
    @neobahumut707 11 месяцев назад +2

    I can't think of a bigger compliment than a whole community teamming up against you due to being potentially better than all of them! This was neat.

  • @jrgenbreivik5018
    @jrgenbreivik5018 3 года назад +4

    Damn another great video, your channel deserves alot more traffic imho

  • @evanprince3875
    @evanprince3875 Год назад +14

    "I wanted to be champion but knew I couldn't be" so he cheated. Absolutely no respect for this guy, scummy behavior, defeats the entire purpose of the competition and achievement. Dan will go down in history as the guy who couldn't get the achievement legitimately so he resorted to underhanded tactics to get ahead. I see no difference between him and athletes who dope, you can't cut it, don't embarrass yourself and everyone else.

  • @HoldenMagroin2
    @HoldenMagroin2 2 года назад +24

    Hypocrisy from Dan.. about getting 32/32 and ppl should try stop matthias.. about the achievement being overshadowed if there's nobody there to challenge it.. from the guy who hoarders world records. Screwed matthias and the a1a over in the process because he knew with those guys chasing him he had no chance

  • @elucidator1277
    @elucidator1277 Год назад +3

    The Dan Hoarding Conversation starts @ 1:30:37
    I still HIGHLY recommend ppl watch all the video first (Abyssoft did a great job), but for those that know all the history up to that point, use the time stamp.

  • @waste4245
    @waste4245 2 года назад +2

    So happy I found this channel, this is criminally underrated

  • @ryanthecelebi4146
    @ryanthecelebi4146 3 года назад +8

    The fact you covered this much information on a speed run rivalry is very impressive cang wait for you to as a creator to get more attention

  • @King_Konglish
    @King_Konglish 2 года назад +66

    Dan now has the records, but I still think he shouldn’t be allowed into the Hall of Fame.
    His hoarding went directly against the spirit of the community, and he wanted other players not allowed into the HoF for petty reasons. Seems fair to me.

    • @yudistiraliem135
      @yudistiraliem135 2 года назад +3

      Meh, the hoarding doesn’t change the skill it takes to do it. The reason Matthias quit is simple, he couldn’t broke Dan’s record he wrote it himself he just couldn’t dedicated more time and who could fault him? If it’s no longer fun then he shouldn’t spend that much time playing IMO. It’s unfortunate for him because he wrote that he wanted to quit for some time already and likely waiting to be the first person to reach 32/32 and then retire.
      If Dan has no skill or if MR’s was better and he kept uploading better results then no amount of hoarding could change the result.

    • @yudistiraliem135
      @yudistiraliem135 2 года назад

      Correct me if I’m wrong but there are more speedrunners now compared to back then when Matthias wanted to reach 32/32.

    • @milliuhn
      @milliuhn 2 года назад +30

      @@yudistiraliem135 I would argue that neither players were more skilled than the other. If the positions were reversed I feel like Dan would have the same reaction that MR did. It just kills the drive because all of your progress is gone in one day with no chance to respond. I think what MR did is commendable because it drove players to try and stop him and he made the whole community better by attempting to go for 32 World Records. MR could've just grinded and grinded and then mass uploaded all the World Records but he gave them a chance.

  • @JosephHk743
    @JosephHk743 3 года назад +42

    My favorite part of this video was the fact you were actually able to interview with well-known Mario kart players across the community that have opinions with MR and Dan.
    Combined with the personal drama and competitions that I didn’t know after watching the Summoning Salt video, this was worth the time sitting down and watching this video.

    • @Abyssoft
      @Abyssoft  3 года назад +10

      This was easily my most ambitious video and the one I'm most proud of, I'm glad you enjoyed it.

  • @12dash
    @12dash 3 года назад +30

    The thing I find the most disgusting is that Dan participated in the alliance to stop Matthias and after they truncated his goal Dan started hoarding WR to not recive the same treatment they gave to Matthias. I don't think Dan is the devil but he did one of the lowest things I've ever seen.

  • @Nordanix
    @Nordanix 3 года назад

    What a ride watching this video was! Amazingly done!

  • @JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701
    @JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701 2 года назад +6

    I LOVE Mario Kart 64 competitive mentality. In my place in Germany we also Had a small competitive MK64 Scene... But that was more than 20 years ago. So we could never try to Challenge Matthias and Others... Damn 😅

  • @turbo8628
    @turbo8628 2 года назад +24

    A small part of me wants MR to vome out of retirement with 32 world records all hoarded away for a few years. Won't get the title cos hoarding is now banned, but that middle finger to everyone defending hoarding would be hilarious.
    He wouldn't do that though... you either have class or you don't.

  • @LunarWingCloud
    @LunarWingCloud 6 месяцев назад +1

    I actually liked this video even more than SS's video on Matthias. Between your inclusion of interview bits, more thorough timeline the rivalry, and to me portraying the forces in this video as more human on all sides, I found it *extremely* entertaining.

    • @Abyssoft
      @Abyssoft  6 месяцев назад +1

      This was my favorite video I've ever edited, and I have another planned for 2024.

  • @jacobhellgren35
    @jacobhellgren35 2 года назад +1

    Amazing video my guy!

  • @Joreon
    @Joreon 3 года назад +2

    Just found ur channel from a different video, awesome content my guy! Love it!

    • @Abyssoft
      @Abyssoft  3 года назад +1

      Out of curiosity, which video did you find me by

    • @Joreon
      @Joreon 3 года назад +2

      @@Abyssoft paper mario, which is kinda weird considering I mostly play MK(wii)

  • @immortallegacy100
    @immortallegacy100 3 года назад +2

    RUclips's algorithm's at it again lol. I got obsessed with Tetris a couple of years ago because of it, and now I know WAY more about MK64 than I ever thought I would. Thanks for this video and your others. I may have to go back and play some old school MK (Super Circuit was my jam back in the day). I think what Dan did was wrong, but at least he did officially become champion back in January, and since then he and MR have been trading the title back and forth with one another. As of this comment they've trade the championship 7 times, and I hope we get to see a part 2 someday.

    • @enting1991
      @enting1991 3 года назад +5

      "Officially" still isn't "fairly". The hoarding of 15 months basically reversed the roles, where Dan can defend and Matthias has to attack. This obviously is a huge advantage for Dan. And while MR got into that position years ago without ever hoarding, which was a lot of honest and hard work, Dan took a cheap shortcut to get there. It could've been years of honest competition for Dan to get into that position, if he ever would have, but the hoarding now put Matthias at a disadvantage ever since.
      Not to mention Dan promised Matthias to not go for champ status again until he would've beaten all his own hoarded WRs, as a way to basically remove any hoarded WRs. But he broke that promise shortly after - and ultimately, just weeks ago, it was Matthias who defeated the last standing hoarded WRs. It took him almost a year to do this, when usually Matthias would take back WRs within hours or days, at most a few weeks. That shows that the hoarding was far more damaging that it may look. The last 11 months saw the times being pushed down by a lot, with WRs every week. Imagine how low the times could be right now if the 15 months before that would've been filled with that kind of competition... the hoarding set back the MK64 community by at least a year.

  • @googoo802
    @googoo802 2 года назад +6

    Absolutely great documentary! My only gripe is that it's hard to follow at times while you're explaining the live events, as someone who doesn't follow mk64 speedrunning, I kept getting lost as to who was who and who was actually winning and if the footage showing was the race you were talking about, but that could be my fault for not paying 100 percent attention.
    Other than that, fanfic

  • @usulordo
    @usulordo 3 года назад +1

    What an outstanding video. This one is for the algorithm.

  • @theonlyfinest8519
    @theonlyfinest8519 3 года назад +9

    I didnt want the video to end...

  • @goobersmasher69
    @goobersmasher69 5 месяцев назад

    Had to watch this over two days and I still don't know much about mario kart but I loved the story. Excellent documentary.

    • @Abyssoft
      @Abyssoft  5 месяцев назад

      There's lots of MK content and gaming docs on my channel for you to check out

  • @DaWazzaBeast
    @DaWazzaBeast 3 года назад +1

    Found your channel a few days ago from your Mario Kart64 cheater video. Watched this specific video 3x already; hope your channel blows up soon

  • @albertcee1770
    @albertcee1770 3 года назад +2

    I really enjoyed this video, thank you

  • @Krizzah47
    @Krizzah47 2 года назад

    Best speedrunning documentary i‘ve ever seen !!

  • @D-DUBZTHE-BOSS-
    @D-DUBZTHE-BOSS- 3 года назад +29

    theres no rivalry, dan cant do shit without hiding it, Mattias will beat anytime he posts.

  • @paradiseracer2437
    @paradiseracer2437 Год назад +4

    Matthias being the villain at the beginning of the story and then turning into the hero at the end is an amazing twist. Far better than any recent movie twists

  • @josh-cq3ju
    @josh-cq3ju 3 года назад

    Amazing work!

  • @thecatboss
    @thecatboss 3 года назад +3

    All of that footage...crazy

  • @moomoomoo102
    @moomoomoo102 3 года назад +5

    Algorithm will make you shine soon bro such good quality vid

  • @uznplaya3562
    @uznplaya3562 2 года назад

    Fantastic work!

  • @braillynn4903
    @braillynn4903 2 года назад +5

    Loved this documentary, wish it was easier to tell who is talking though.

  • @salis-salis
    @salis-salis 3 года назад +1

    Great vid, glad I found your channel.

    • @Abyssoft
      @Abyssoft  3 года назад

      Glad to have you, I'm quite active on Twitter and the Discord as well

  • @wideunicorn722
    @wideunicorn722 3 месяца назад

    One of the best speedrunning-videos I've ever seen

  • @hahaphd6856
    @hahaphd6856 3 года назад +9

    Long video... that I watched from start to finish, absorbed in its content

  • @ph43draaa
    @ph43draaa 3 года назад +4

    Feels like that other doc is a supplemental piece to your doc tbh

  • @thenameless9087
    @thenameless9087 2 года назад

    121k views and it still feels like it's too small for the work you've put, good job!

  • @StepBaum
    @StepBaum 3 года назад

    Really great video man :) the only thing that I have noticed (also with other videos), it is very noticable that you reuse the same background songs over and over. And sometimes the Interviewaudio couldve been a tad quieter

  • @TristalisTRD
    @TristalisTRD 3 года назад +1

    Great Video!

  • @tebla2074
    @tebla2074 2 года назад +2

    Really Great video!! just a small thing though: you should probably be a bit more careful with the volume levels, some of the clips were way louder than your voice over.

  • @Skonkgasm
    @Skonkgasm Месяц назад

    I love it "we CAN'T let this guy get every single record at once it will make us feel entirely too inferior."

  • @jasonvincent6138
    @jasonvincent6138 3 года назад +14

    You made this vid before summoning salt.. Good shii, great quality too

  • @mrtechnodrome8114
    @mrtechnodrome8114 3 года назад +1

    Nice video man :) Thumbs up!

  • @THEFRISKIESTDINGO
    @THEFRISKIESTDINGO 3 года назад +16

    Hoarding times in Mario Kart? Tragic.
    Hoarding times in Super Metroid?
    *YOU GOT BEHEMOTH’D!*

    • @lemonadogirl4082
      @lemonadogirl4082 2 года назад

      That's...not really what getting Behemoth'd _was_ though. Getting Behemoth'd referred to having a record beaten by a relatively new/unknown player that didn't have a lot of eyes on them prior. The original occurrence wasn't an instance of hoarding, the run was put out when it happened as normal.

  • @thegoat2959
    @thegoat2959 Год назад +6

    Dan’s 32/32 should have an asterisk on it

  • @witchsquad3324
    @witchsquad3324 Год назад +2

    MR coming back is awesome. Revenge is sweet!

  • @JurijFedorov
    @JurijFedorov 3 года назад +7

    Good video. Just needed names on screen too to show us who is speaking.

  • @FifaPinion
    @FifaPinion 2 года назад +28

    I just love MR has just renamed Dan in his streams to a hoarder I love that he fucking deserves all the hate he gets!

  • @cyai4989
    @cyai4989 3 года назад +1

    Fantastic story!

  • @user-isntavailable
    @user-isntavailable 3 года назад +3

    I imagine them guys talking shit to eachother in a fun way thru text or phone calls and just being all around good friends? I imagine this right?

  • @TeraunceFoaloke
    @TeraunceFoaloke 3 года назад +1

    I see Dan was visiting the Goldeneye/Perfect Dark forums in 2019.

  • @jad4945
    @jad4945 2 года назад +4

    I sorta thought VAJ would be... bigger.
    I'm not sure I can feel too bad about what Dan did even with the "spirit of the community" aspect given that the other players literally banded together to deny Matthias. When your opponents are employing tactics outside of just driving the game I think it's entirely fair to do the same though Dan shouldn't have participated in that either.

  • @Parker--
    @Parker-- 2 года назад +8

    Matthias is the greatest MK64 speed runner over and it took the entire goon squad to beat him meanwhile Dan is genuinely a terrible human being and so are the officials who decided to keep Dan’s record while preventing others from doing the same. That’s rigging the system no matter how you slice it. North Korean elections have more integrity than MK64 speedrunning at this point.

  • @matheusfariasleao7307
    @matheusfariasleao7307 3 года назад

    Nice video!

  • @ljummingen
    @ljummingen 3 года назад +1

    Very good video! Sound is very low though