How to upgrade GPU memory. Upgrade 2080ti to 22G. 2080ti22g.com
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Today, I'm going to modify a 2080 Ti graphics card. It's a blower-style 2080 Ti. I want to upgrade it to 22GB and also replace the stock cooling solution with a triple-fan cooler. The method for upgrading the VRAM is widely available online. It's not technically challenging and there are plenty of videos that demonstrate the process. So, it's more for entertainment purposes than anything else. We'll start by disassembling the graphics card, replacing the VRAM chips, and modifying the identification resistors. Alright, the graphics card has been disassembled. We'll prepare a heating platform and remove the VRAM chips. Before removing the VRAM chips, we'll apply some soldering oil to make it easier to work on the solder pads in the future. Now, if you want to upgrade the VRAM yourself, you'll need experience in successfully removing BGA chips, such as upgrading the memory on a router or similar experiences. Otherwise, the probability of failure is at least 90%. This kind of modification is not something that can be easily explained through words alone. It's more of a skill that can only be understood through practice. If you have enough resources, you can start by buying a cheap test card, like a GTX 450, and practice removing and re-soldering VRAM on that card first. Once you're confident in your skills, you can proceed to modify your high-end card. Now, let's get back to this graphics card. The VRAM chips have been removed, and we're now working on the solder pads. Be careful when working on the solder pads because there are many capacitors and resistors around them. If any are accidentally dislodged, they'll need to be replaced. The solder pads have been flattened using a suction tape, and now we'll clean them with a suction cup cleaner. After cleaning, we'll apply a thin layer of flux, making sure not to apply too much, as excessive heat during reflow may cause it to overflow. We'll replace the original 1GB VRAM with single 2GB chips. In total, we'll use 11 chips to achieve 22GB. Typically, this kind of modification is done for tasks like training AI models. If your VRAM capacity is insufficient, you won't be able to run such projects. That's why future high-capacity graphics cards will become more expensive. After placing the VRAM chips, we'll use hot air to reflow them. Usually, a temperature of around 400 degrees Celsius and heating each chip for about 20 seconds will be sufficient. However, the exact time may vary depending on different people's experience and equipment. Now that the VRAM has been reflowed, let's connect the card to a computer and see if it powers on. The card has reached stage B2. It should reach stage 9C, where we can see the ASUS logo. Although it powers on now, let's not celebrate too soon. We'll test the VRAM to ensure that all the solder joints are good and there are no faulty chips. Alright, luck is on our side. It's a successful upgrade. Now, since we want to change the cooling solution, we also need to relocate the rear power connectors to the top. The display shows 22GB, so let's run a 3D Mark benchmark to see if everything is working properly. The 3D Mark test is complete, and due to the low temperatures, it passed without any issues. So, this card has been successfully modified and is working fine. That concludes this video.
Man said it's an easy process then a few minutes later said there's a 90% chance of failure if you're not experienced lol
Yeah it's easy, just heat it up until the chips are removed. I can do it, but to do it successfully would be the question. since the solder points are too small, the risk of short circuit is high.
A.I. wording is great isn't it 😂
@@Ecstasio the user has to be good at using the ai in order for it to be good
@@yulpark9299 Oh trust me I know. I was referring to this video specifically. I have no problem with AI content at all but effort should be made to make it at least sound coherent and engaging.
@@Ecstasio you could tell it how to be those things
Nvidia ia going to have a stroke when they find out people are now learning how to increase their vram lmaooooo
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They will switch to on package dram 💀
People have been doing this for a while. Considering the skill and experience required, i don't think nvidia is too concerned
but if you can get someone to do it for much cheaper than what nvidia asks maybe they'll try something as this is something they should be able to detect easily from drivers but in any case it would cause a major shitstorm @@elbeetlebeasto
more vram doesnt really increase the performance. cards with 16gb of vram probably dont even max out 10gb
A benchmark before and after could be cool
Performance won't change unless you were somehow memory capacity limited before. This might be useful for upgrading GPUs to handle larger AI models or other VRAM hungry applications, for gaming this makes little sense.
ive noticed 99.9% of people who have the hardware skills to do ram upgrades on gpus lack the knowledge of actually how to use the gpu and create compelling exampled why its relevant. Most of them also do no voice videos and the best we get is some robotic 2009 ai generated voice lol
@@cppctek This video about a 16G 3070 is pretty interesting. I'm pretty sure that it wouldn't be much different with a 2080Ti. In short, there are games that can allocate 16G of VRAM or more, but the performance difference between 8G and 16G is insignificant.
@@titaniummechanism3214 or u can render 8k natively
@@titaniummechanism3214 What is the point of ur comment? its obvious that it wont change unless there was a limit before. Might as well just point out that the Sky is blue ^^
I like the advice to purchase old routers and ancient GPUs to practice your BGA soldering skills first, very honest advice. ;)
😮😮
And honestly the only GOOD advice too
how tho?
soldering oil, suction device on the pads ... damn, this is so full of bad advice. While the video content is correct, the autogenerated voice over (and maybe the script used) is full of incorrect statements.
It's translated from Chinese i guess that explains all the mistakes
its not incorrect .. you just need to take into account that the script was most likely translated from chinese to english and then ran through a text-to-speech programm ... its obviously not soldering oil .. its flux .. but here in german that is calles "lötfett" or "flussmittel" "lötwasser" witch translates to soldering-fat or "floathelper" or "make it float water" or even "riverstuff" if you really want to start mistranslating stuff :D :D :D
@@Maverrick2140 point taken, ty.
by "suction device" and later "suction tape" he means solder wick.
What temp was your heat gun while removing the vram chips?
Doesn't the bios of the card need to be modified in order for it take advantage of the 22 gigs?
yes it does
@@RaceT3chhow to do pls resource video
@@fw1719 I don't know how to bios mod but reddit might have tutorials or something
Yes, it needs to be modified or flashed with a different Driver or VBIOS that's confirmed to work with the VRAM mod.
Some cards like the RTX 2070 or RTX 3070 already have support for 16GB in their Drivers (Nvidia just never actually released 16GB variants) so you can easily mod and get them running without much issue. Cards like the RTX 2080Ti or consumer RTX 3080s (despite there being legit - but rare 20GB variants) have no native support for the increased memory in their drivers And furthermore, you would need a modified driver to make proper use of it which will either be from some fishy Chinese market selling modded mining cards from leftover stock as they upgrade their farm and/or try to liquidate assets, or are under NDA from legit companies and are very hard to find. There's a reason this video is in Chinese and is using English TTS while directing you to their eBay listing to buy their cards.
They also mentioned (but didn't show) needing to modify the resistor configuration for the straps usually required after changing memory modules.
This board is seriously impressive. It's packed to the brim with components in every nook and cranny. I wouldn't be surprised if it cost more to make than a 4090! The level of detail and complexity here is just on another level. I might not know all the technical stuff about boards, but this one looks absolutely phenomenal.
Do you have a link to another video that could show us the process?
How do you know which vram slot is A1 A0 B1 B0 knowibg that you have and empty one... That one counts as a D0 or D0 is the next one after the empty space?
Nvidia is going to try and lock out upgraded cards, lol
Woud like to leave a PSA down here:
This is not an easy process, it requires good repair equipment and a good amount of experience. Removing VRAM from a graphics card without killing it is a complex process by itself, let alone reballing and soldering new BGA chips on a board.
Guys, dont fuckin do it if you never done bga-level repair and you got the proper equiptment. I killed 4 gpus for lack of experience (from 960, 970, 1060 and 1060, there are a tons of things you want to think about, you need a dehumidifier (100 degree oven/ put the card in for atleast 20 hours) you need a bottom heating plate for bga repair work, you need a decent heat gun, flux, etc, if you got a function 2080ti, dont do it!
Also, you need properiatary tools like Nvidias MODS/MATS testing tools which are NOT available unless you go on the darknet/repair forums, so if you dont have these tools, dont touch ur card...
... dont!
MATS/MODS are available all over the web. Easy to find. You don't need to dehumidify or to cook the card beforehand, not even sure why you think that, and you don't really need a board heater, but it is recommended. All you need is a decent heat gun, a decent iron, good flux, and a little bit of practice. If you've praticed on 4 cards, you should be well on your way by now, and shouldn't still be having failures. You might seek out some professional advice if you are still having issues.
Hey, nice video.
Whats about disabled resizable bar?
Is it caused by upgrating vram or something?
Where did you get the replacement memory chips from? Another fried GPU?
Were can I find vram for my gtx580m? Alienware/dell won't help get OEM replacement so I can keep my stereoscopic 3D😢...I still have my 580m in a box saved😢
Would this work on the mining variant, the CMP 50HX as well?
Whats the theoretical limit? Is it just limited to bios or is there nothing higher than 2gb vram chips?
Can you show us benchmark in Games like how much FPS you are getting in different resolutions
Doesn't need a new vios to read the 22gb aight ?
What temp was the heat gun while removing the chips?
can you do this with most cards? I havent taken a 30 series apart
hay que hacer una modificacion a la bios de la tarjeta de video?
Where can I find more information about this. I really want to get into this because it seems interesting.
What is that SW name for testing GPU VRAM (in dos)?
Is their a video on adding more vram to the 3080?
What's the size of the memory bus on the 2080 Ti, though?
What is that PCIe solution that shows the stages of booting?
Is the rtx 4060 ti using 4gb modules? How is it possible? I mean 4x32 bit = 128bit. Where can i find the chips. All the photo of the rtx 4060ti's 16gb board says there are only 4 chips.
can you share us strap configuration for this mode? ty
Where would you get the 2 gb vram from
whats the cost? can you upgrae an MSI 3080 card? to max ram DDR5X i think
I missed the part where it shows if the 22GB vram is working
Turns over the GPU to reveal..... *a miniature city*
Who does this kind of service?
Wonder if you can upgrade a Tesla P100 frpm 16gb to 32gb 🤔
does anyone know if you can upgrade the vram on the 3090 or 4090 to 36GB or 48GB?
Dude I wonder if there’s a place I can just take my gpu to upgrade the vram
What's that testing program at 2:48? I've never seen it before. Is it custom? I've been looking for a good VRAM tester for years but I haven't found one. Nothing I've found is reliable.
just looks like Nvidia MATS/MODS...
where do u get custom bios for that
Drivers for the "new" card?
Could the same be done to RTX 3080?
In the 90s you bought graphic cards with upgradable VRAM. So for eg Matrox Mystique 2mb 3DFX would have 2 slots for another 2 mb if you so wished. They just pushed in. Today they rip you off because that’s the normal thing to do. Consumerism at its 100% best
It's not to rip you off. Soldered memory chips, especially VRAM provide better signal integrity, speed, and performance. Trust me there's a lot of ways companies try to maximize profit and minimize cost. But, the design decision to solder memory chips is prevalent and I would gladly take a devices with soldered memory over being able to upgrade it.
damn it hurts to know that, just the other day when I saw they added a slot for nvmes of all things.
the average consumer can't even take advantage of such speeds and i'd much rather be able to add more vram, specially when I have 4 nvme slots on my board and can add at least another 2 with a pcie nvme card.
that added memory was not just a doubling something, there was different types of memories for textures commands and so on. you were adding ram to make a function to work.
How can I make V ram test ?
hi! you can upgrade 1660s to 8gb vram ? thanks you
is this thing possible on laptop gpu's too?
Can this be also be done on laptop's GPU?
Awesome vid, 4k max setting cyberpunk 2077 will use around 12gb of gpu memory, haven't found a way to 'bench test' more than that though.
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@@pedrowilliams6433 but there are no standardised benchmarks for that the also show memory usage
@@hiroshiganna9078because in gaming more than that is useless. Unless you play modded games. For example skyrim or beamng. Otherwise it's only for work
@@foreskinracer8753 wrong. New games need 16gb vram in 4k path tracing
try the last of us part 1 and resident evil 4 remake
where you get the bios????
since 22gb is unofficial Im pretty sure you cant get it online
also, even with the right bios, the gpu refuses to boot and need to flash another bios
yeah cause in this video he never set the new resistor positions, he obviously left it out
could you do a asus 1660 super evo from 6gb to 12gb plz?
that would really show a performance boost, specially in games like fortnite.
thank you.
awesome tutorial thank you
Wait? I need to remove the VRM chips?!?
Ufff im tempted to try but im depending too much on my GPU for working and can't afford a more VRAM model so it's a risk but... Maybe i'll try with easier mods first, i'd like to know how much are this 2gb RAM chips, maybe IS not even economically worthy ... This are top speed 320bit ddr6 chips if i'm not mistaken...
can this work for 3080ti 22gb?
Have you attempted to occupy all memory channels? nvidia had at one point planed on releasing a 12gb version with the extra shaders etc. to my knowledge no one has confirmed if the paths were even lazered off.
what’s the software you’re running to test the gpu? the one with all the squares
Nvidia MODS or Modular diagnostic software
Question: If I want to mod a 3080ti from 12GB to 24GB VRAM then what VRAM chip should I find for the upgrade?
check gpuz to see memory code and type, and buy it!
do you think its easy to add more VRAM by swapping the old chip with new model one or maybe increasing the frequency?
and second how to find one chip compatible??
do you thing any chip will work??
another issue you will face is BIOS updating so it can take advantage of the added VRAM of the card and even drivers lol
@@GrumpyOttah I know i should update the bios many people say its easy, but my question is how to know the compatible chip
@@MLS.22 You won't need to update the BIOS, you will need to code/find a custom one to take advantage of the VRAM.
any chip wil NOT work. gpu's have a small list of supported chips (usually 2-3 different brands) and frequencies. you need to have the card's manual for that. changing the chips/frequencies, needs different resistor combinations in order for the card to recognize and use them. changing vram size will also need a different vbios.
VRM are the voltage regulators, NOT the RAM.
Can you upgrade laptop gpu vram?
That's it ? 🤨 Does the bios need some modification to detect all 22GB or it just natively detects new DDR modules ?
I've seen mention of others performing this upgrade. They say that no software/firmware changes are required and the card and drivers will detect the larger chips without issue.
I've found a bunch of salers from China listed these 22GB versions online for as low as 430$ but they're all reference board with blower cooler and I kinda wanted to do it myself.
Samsung K4ZAF325BM-HC16 (16.0 Gbps) and K4ZAF325BM-HC14 (14.0 Gbps) are two types of GDDR6 module that I can buy so I ordered them for ~12$ each with soldering/hot air station, reball kit, ... It got out of hand pretty damn quick for a little experiment, but hey, 4x 2080Ti 22GB Strix sounded cool as hell
I also found out about "strap mod" as mentioned in an article from videocardz. I think imma stick to that for later
@@PhuocBulldid you succeed in replacing the vram chips ? 🤔
Pretty disgusting that gpu companies keep the memory low for marketing purposes
Great video. Make more.
2:47 how you test is can you make tutorial pls?
Look for tutorials on how to make bootable USB containing "NVIDIA MODS/MATS". That's the software he's using, but it is obscure, somewhat hard to find.
where do you buy the 2 GB VRAM chips?
dont do it
I watched a video just a couple of days ago, upgrading/flashing a 3080 to a 1080 lol failed
Good job.
A lot of games don't make use of the CUDA cores on this cards and get bottlenecked by the VRAM and it's frustrating that upgrading VRAM means buying a card 3 times the price while not needing any of the extra processing power that comes with them. Upgrading VRAM should become mainstream.
Does it work to mod a 4060 to 16GB instead of the original 8, not the 4060 Ti that sucks.
yes
I really want to do the same thing for my 8GB rtx 3080 laptop. If somehow i can make it 16GB will helps me a lot
Doesn’t changing the vram affect nothing gaming wise? I mean the driver is programmed to use the 8gb, this process of raising the vram only affect ai things
Hacked driver.
@@filonin2 you mean custom driver
So... What gains could expected after doing this?
Bigger chest and larger arms...
Is it possible to mod a 3080 FE from 10 to 20GB?
yes ai guys already doing it just google it
I wonder if its possible to take a aorus 3080 xtreme with 10gb and max out the memory and what it would cost to do the job?
Not much, chips are not that expensive. You will probably spend more money on soldering tools then on chips themselves.
Do you do personal orders? I would love to upgrade my RTX 2060 6gb.
I bet the shipping costs alone would make it not worthy, let alone the work charge and cost of the chips. Just buy 2080 ti's or something, they are pretty cheap 2ndhand.
Do you know if this is possible on 3080Ti? 12gb to 24gb? Thanks
There’s a thing out there called RTX 3090..
In all seriousness though, 24GB 3080 Ti would be awesome, having all VRAM on the frontside of the PCB.
@@niklasniklasniklas1 yeah I bought 2 x RTX 3080 Ti for $400, 3090 is still 1000+
@@AINMEisONE i can get 3090’s for about 600 Eur here in Sweden. :) ofc depending on which brand and model.
where did you get the custom bios to utilize the 22gb?
Can use regular bios
That's not how it works. A prime example would be when people would unlock the 4gb rx580 to 8gb rx580 with the correct bios if it was flashed w the 4gb version but actually had the chips installed@@Rogerfuk
on rtx u can use regular bios, in Indonesia many people have upgraded the 2080ti like this #sorry for my bad eng.
@@therphyscora3514 It says in the video title it's a popular mod guys, stop policing youtube videos.
It kinda looked like there was 1 empty slot to put another 2 gb vram on it to make it 24G, would it even work at all if you put anything there?
You are right. But it won't work with 24G. 22G is the max.
whats the reason?@@customgpu
@@unreal4175 idk, probably using the same matrix as the rt titan but core can't handle more than 11gb without issues, it is known that 22gb of vram will not be achieved during high intensity tasks that require a lot of vram transfer, the 4060ti 16gb faces the same problem and overclocking it solves it, however overclocking 2080ti's is riskier for some weird reason.
ok thanks
it's won't work because nvidia have locked the firmware with 352bit vram buswidth, it only can be upgraded to 22-44-88-...gb of vram since total bga chips is still 352bit
Pls how mutch
Impressive.
Don't you want t show us an 4K/RTX Hogwarts Legacy benchmark on how much this actually changes the results? :(
Where did u get those Vrams ?
I tried looking online. I looked up vram chips online and they exist. But can’t tell which ones are compatible or what gb because they all have wierd code names
Is it doable on rtx3070 to put 8 samsung chips to make it 16gb in total?
it’s been upgraded before, and people have seen massive performance boosts in some games, but i’m not sure what chips exactly were used
@@emiliomanzo3740 Ussualy goes samsung memory chips 2gigs each.
its not a cheap mod
Where do you purchase VRAM chips
aliexpress
I wish I was special enough to upload a gpu mod video without a gaming benchmark, much like eating toast without anything on it.
I actaully don't play video games. I think my targeted audience do not play video games either.
@@customgpu This reply feels really wrong, it's like saying you only like cars with hexagonal wheels. how about a video where you show us the use cases for such a mod before and after testing results?.
Something like on an GT1030 DDR5 will be amazing
unlikely as it's such low vram to begin with, a gtx 1070 would be the minimum worthy card, although that'll change soon as 5000 series cards are releasing.
Oh yeah the 2080 tee
please do this with me 3080 ti
Must be impressive make a 4070ti with 20 or more vram , amazing
very impressive for sure, nvidia wont do it so users must.
How come he did not use 12 chips for a total of 24GB ,is that channel not active in the already blank spot?
Yeah I noticed that there was a empty pad. But it also came like that before he did the mod. I think it’s better off to be safe and leave that pad alone it’s already hard enough to do this. It’s possible but using that other pad might make it a 0% success rate. This is pretty cool though
@@mkeefe4248 Its cool though ,I'm just curious to whether that empty pad is actually functional or not. :)
@@Nevakonaza. I realized why. It only allows 22gb. So he upgraded 11 1gb chips to 2gb . Because it only is functional at 22.
@@mkeefe4248 ahhhh okay that makes perfect sense,thanks for explaining 😊
Which memory chip did you use to replace the original ones.
samsung
i think they are K4ZAF325BM-HC16. not sure though
or HC14 but the HC16 is 16gb/s
Does it matter if the memory chips are the same exact model? Or even same exact generation?
Could it be GDDR5 GDDR6, GDDR6X?
Can this process be done on a laptop main-board?
Yes it can be. But it depends heavily on the motherboard itself if it'll still work afterwards.
@@swisstraeng I think it will not work and if it does, custom bios update will be mandatory.
yes it can be done anywhere you can replace the vram chips 1:1 ratio
You have a 90% chance of failure. May the odds be forever in your favor 😂
you could make a living off this!, especially if you become experienced enough at doing the same task over and over again
but if you do plan on doing this, keeping mind failure is possible so keeping some money to refund the customer is a good idea :p
can u do mine pls
edit: is it possible on laptops?, im super curious now.
Can you try for a laptop gpu vram upgrade
yes
nice voice you have
qhy is 22gb the max? on newer cards do they have a higher theoretical max
It isn't the max it's just that 2gb chips of the correct type were available so that is what he used
@@SiLva_SuRfa no you have no clue
he used 22gb because its max because the firmware is locked to vram bandwith !!
Wanted to watch it, but robot voice made me puke.
The guy is chinese.. you want to hear it in chinese?
400°C is too high for a reflow.
You should use 300 max with a preheater set at 250°C and let the board have enough heat (180°C) before applying the 300°C on the top.
Never be impatient with temperature or you'll instantly kill the chip for sure.
Just let the temperature increase slowly and let the PCB absorb heat little by little.
In my experience, Ram chips hate high temperature. If you use more than 350°C for more than 10 seconds you'll definitely kill the chip.
So in conclusion:
1- preheat the board with a preheater (heating plate) and let it reach 180°C
2- then apply 300 - 350°C max to melt the solder and remove the chip.
3- patience is your key. Never reach the required melting temperature too quickly but let the board absorb heat and wait patiently.
yep, i been through about $2,000 USD in cards before i learnt this.
incredible ^^]
this is great, did you have to modify the bios?
No need to modify the core or bios. Only switching VRAM chips.
@@customgpu Northwest Repair said you needed to create a custom bios even when switching from hynix micron to samsung same size chips... wtf
@@kingghidorah8106 you have to move the memory straps. every bios ahs multiple memory profiles that can be selected by resistors.
@@customgpu the i must tell you ! you just a noob, there is no way you can use other mount of VRam without modufy the Vbios ! that stupid what you telling ppl here , even tho , there is no sec video ! and you didnt even show th jumper resisror to aktivate the Vram Socket !!
dude Stop Blowing up ppl , some of them gonna bellive you and distroy there Grafik cards !