@@clubfillerspinkknickers9791 not sure i should take pink knickers seriously, but yes. i believe i do. but not sure the two points are mutally exclusive
Luis is a good witness. He doesn't get defensive and remains calm. I like him. Wish he would have a better shake at life and had made better decisions.
I find myself wishing this man had made better choices in his life. He is straightforward and articulate. I think he is being truthful. He has been involved in a terrible crime but I believe if there is such a thing as an honest criminal he is it. I hope he receives some training and perhaps a way to get a GED and a better way through life.
Hey, 40% of recent college graduates end up in menial jobs, because there is an over supply. A former inmate has 0 chance of getting hired, even with a PhD.😂 That's the way the market dynamics work.
EXACTLY! This attorney obviously doesn't realize or doesn't care that what he's doing could very likely get him killed in prison. He's being so honest on the stand, and the defense attorneys want to try to get the jurors to believe he's lying. Pshhht! *YEAH FREAKING RIGHT!!!*
For real right?! I got that feeling too . These lawyers are just as crooked as the PoLice 🤷🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️ you see the whole family got away with a hit on the ex husband. There’s a reason for that. Money and well known makes for a good scape now look these 3 hood folk got clapped up🤷🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️ and the whole family walks. Shady asf. They set up the perfect hit. I mean look at Luis Rivera’s jacket alone 🤦🏻♀️🤣
How to confuse a lawyer: Say you're illiterate so he can't impeach you. You just know this lawyer is having kittens trying to catch Riviera in a lie but he can't. He's trying to intimidate him but failing miserably. Riviera is honest af and honesty will rise above ego every time.
If he's honest it's because he might as well be. He's speaking to things he's already doing time for. I doubt he's particularly concerned with telling the court the truth on principle.
I think Riviera may have a higher IQ than most of the Lawyers in the room . I do admire him for being honest.. The other dude simply drank and did too much Cocaine. "His Best Freind .. Tato to his Tito
Gwen Scott Agreed. He's showing that this guy had more to do with the murder than he portrays himself as being. He claims to be only the little powerless individual who was not directly involved in the murder because he really wasn't hired by anyone, yet that doesn't ring true if he's as powerful as a leader of a national gang. Also he's bound by his gang by a code of silence yet he's ratted out the other murderer.
He really did just make Luis Rivera look like RobinHood 😂 I think he just liked saying words like jackBoy L, and king Tato 🤣👏🏼 probably the most interesting case he ever had 🤷🏻♀️
I just posed the same thing! My first sentence was pretty much the same as your, word for word. Yes, he did a terrible job. Is this his first case? Maybe he's still practicing for the bar.
@@challism no he represented Derek Medina, the man that killed his fiance and put it on FB. He was much worse then, but luckily the judge in this case not letting him get away with the foolishness he did at that trial. His questions were irrelevant and he was so rude to the witnesses, even the murdered woman's mother. He had this annoying habit of facing the jury whilst asking witnesses questions, refusing to face them.
Exactly, he was trying to make him look bad by talking about his gang life and all that, but all it really did was make Luis seem credible cause he admitted to his wrongdoings in his life. Usually people try to deny the crimes they've committed in the past so they don't look bad but Luis just say yes I did.
I can assure you that this jury is hating this attorney right now..For a individual that can't read and write- he is wearing this attorney out..This lawyer needs to stop grandstanding! This isn't A Time To Kill..This Judge has had enough of this clown as well..
I agree. Rivera is spinning the frustrated defense attorney like a top-- “like a toy without batteries” “yeah you couldnsay that.” I hope ALL these murderers and conspirators get thrown in the pen for life!! RIP Dan
This man and his partner in crime threw their lives away for some pocket change just so this dentist family could get full custody of those kids. Unbelievable.
Might be pocket change to you but I’m sure it was a large amount to him. I find this man’s life sad to be honest, his future was pretty much destined from birth.
It saddens me that Luis can't read or write. That means from when he was a young child he was set-up for this lifestyle. Everything about this story is just plain sad.
Maybe they were stepparents and he thinks there his real parents, I mean who would do that to a child or teenager lead them in a career of crime, disgusting parents or family.
I know he is involved with a horrible murder. But when he said he couldn't read, my heart sank into my chest. He was failed at a young age. What was the Adelson's excuse?
he tried the same thing earlier with another witness and was admonished by the judge for implying that talking to the Prosecution was somehow questionable.
Yeah he was 😂 🤦🏻♀️ I got to admit though Lois Luis Rivera handles him well 😂 the lawyer treating him likes he’s stooped because he can’t read or write but he for some reason makes himself look more stupid then Rivera 😂 🤷🏻♀️
Looooool this defence attorney is crazy and shady. Thanks judge for keeping him in check lol. Idk why but I like this witness, he is smart, he still has power...
yeah, too many questions about the timeline, and repetition getting to it, "so it's your testimony"... etc, I am sure the jury lost interest as fast as I did.
Amen 🙏! This defense team is a joke!! I’ve heard better questions asked in the movie My Cousin Vinny! Rivera was so patient with him, waaay more that I could have been,
Illiterate Luis is smarter than the unprofessional lawyer. He patiently frustrates the arrogant lawyer till he annoys the judge with irrelevant questions. LOL!
I get what the defense attorneys trying to point out. He’s trying to make Rivera out as a liar. But damn the defense attorney is annoying dumb and his questions are irrelevant.
I think he was hoping Luis would deny a lot of things so the lawyer could then show evidence that he's lying but it didn't happen that way. Instead, Luis admitted to his wrongdoings and all it did is make Luis seem more credible.
Rivera is making this defense attorney look like a fool he seems actually honest with his answers and it seems like he’s a good guy unfortunately he got mixed up with The wrong crowd I hope he gets out and straighten his life out!
This attorney is terrible. His chomping of gum, clicking his pen and absolutely terrible cross examination are embarrassing. He somehow succeeded in becoming less likeable than the murderer. By a long shot.
I really don’t think this guy has had one chance in life. Not being able to read & write would have advanced all his criminal leanings dramatically. Good on him for coming forward & I sincerely hope he stays safe. I’m sure his testimony helped the prosecution immensely. God Bless 🙏
I'm sure they're very pleased to hear this testimony. Part of conspiracy and solicitation charges comes from Rivera's testimony because without that, they can't charge them for that. It's up to the prosecutors on how they will endorse Rivera's testimony as credible on the jury. Thankfully, the jury mostly believed him even if he's a gang member. Katie and Charlie got convicted for all murder, conspiracy and solicitation charges. Sigfredo was convicted of both murder and conspiracy but not the solicitation.
Lmao! He didn’t just come forward. You like so many others on here are delusional. He would have killed you in a fuxkin heartbeat for some money. Then had some drinks after.
I feel bad for him although he's where he belongs, after what he participated in. He was a hard worker, a brick layer boss, 15 years in the same job. Threw his life away for a little spending money. Justice for Dan
oh its because he was so smart! every time the "educated" lawyer tried to make accomodations, but perhaps not in the ideal dignified way, Luis was able to shut him down and show his bias and judgement - such as let me know if you don't understand, and responding 'i just did '
Sad. Luis is a well spoken and intelligent person. Never had a chance in life. He’s real honest about his illiteracy 👍🏻 Scary and dangerous guy however.
afro brit Happy at peace and content. There is a difference between reading/writing simple everyday stuff. A whole different thing to be asked to read out loud a court document out on live streaming in a room full of lawyers. Remember when you started to read and write? A difference right between what the text is about? He is most definitely not the most educated person
El Chingon he was born into it as he said he never had a choice from a little kid. He left school at 12 years old. Based on that any chance he had was minuscule at best. It would have been miracle if he was able to go another route in life with no parent relative or adult guiding him since born. Is he guilty ? 100%. He’s a product of how he was raised early on. But u can’t deny he had no chance in life to go down any other road. He only knows the criminal justice system inside and out. He knows not to speak until an objection is ruled on. He doesn’t get rattled by a pompous attorney and he knows how to wait out a plea deal and getting his best offer. To me it’s the luck of being born in the USA vs being born in North Korea as an unrelated analogy.
Vivian Lee the guy is street smart. He knows the criminal justice system as good as any lawyer if not better. Yea A book report he can’t do but if u want to know what angles to play in court or prison or streets he is as “intelligent” as they come.
It is quite tragic to see him go in jail for 19 years and his rich sponsors cutting a plea deal to stay free. For some odd reason this guy seems more honest than many that are involved in this case...
Of course that was the whole plan to begin with 🤷🏻♀️ they knew that they would get off. The cops just want to hold someone accountable.. they don’t care who it is🤦🏻♀️ let the “upstanding” suburban lawyers and drs get off and throw the Latin king “thugs” in jail. This was the perfect set up. It’s crazy to me. But so obvious.
ortech715 just trying to paint him as a bad guy, also was trying to get some lies out of him for inconsistency and unreliability but judge shut him down. Certainly not great but only has so much to work with and try to make something
I get that he's trying to impugn the character of the witness, but my goodness. The jury already knows who this guy is and what he's done. Already knows his record and that he's not an altar boy. All this questioning about who snorted coke in the car and how much, who drank in the car and how much, how many bullets, all of the inner workings of the gang, etc. TIE YOUR QUESTIONS TO THE MATTER AT HAND already! Sheesh.
I literally laughed outloud when the defense lawyer asked him if he could tell the difference between yes or no and he laughs and says yes, and then says he's going to show him something and the judge says, _"he said he can't read, you aren't going to show him something to read. MOVE ON!"_ He just acknowledged he has sold drugs, stole from people, was a _"Jack Boy"_ , etc. WTF!? This attorney is really stupid.
I feel the male attorney is asking so many questions about the Latin Kings just for his own information. In case he ever has another Latin King in another trial. (He's learning something new everyday!) Many of those questions do not seem to me to be directly to do with the murder.
Kind of a weird thought, but makes sense. Call me crazy, but I somehow think “Tato” was born to be a criminal and he’s right on the path he was always fixin to be on.
How has being able to read or write have anything to do with being able to translate meaning verbally from one language you speak to another language you speak? There are plenty of 3 and 4 year olds who can't read or write yet who translate words for their non English speaking parents and grandparents everyday. He really is trying to demean the witness here. Patronising prosecutor. Literacy is really no indicator of intelligence if you were never taught to read.
absolutely on the verbal vs written. shows the lack of knowlege of the lawyer. however, i don't think he was trying to demean Luis per say, he was just revealling his bias that 90 percent of the people posting on this page are doing when they say -- hmm? i like him, or hmm? if only he or his family had made better choices
this guy is really something special with the right upbringing he could have been anything in this world he wanted to be he's very bright. He may not be able to read your right but he's brilliant
I'm sure he reads and writes Spanish. No is no in Spanish and yes is Si which he would have seen 1000's of times. These antisocial psychopaths are very smart in the ways of crime.
He clearly is out of his depth here. Knows zilch about inner-city life, gangs, the street, the corner, or the hood. He looks positively foolish. Did he get his law degree from Cheese Whiz University? 🙄🙄
He can read and write. He passed tests in jail. He’s a lying, stealing, drug dealing gang leader and murderer who beats his girlfriend. That’s the states key witness?
I can't believe this attorney---he keeps interrupting himself, jumps around, gets flagged by the Judge a few times... No wonder the defendant gets confused; he's not the only one!!
My all time favorite answers from Rivera to the lawyer. “I don’t remember “🤷🏻♀️😏🤣 he played it dumb the whole time but seems to be the smartest in there🤷🏻♀️🤣
Who ever told this defense attorney for Garcia that being an attorney was his calling really sold him a dream!! He is terrible! He is a complete embarrassment!
Whatever it was… I just have to highlight that Rivera did an amazing job keeping his cool while answering all those nonsense-repeated-all-over-the-place questions to Garcia’s imitation of a lawyer 😅😅😅
God that male defence lawyer is hard to take. Luis (even tho illiterate )is 100% smarter than that lawyer. The Judge is awesome in permitting no lawyer to grandstand.
@@melsar1977 On the murder charge he was given a 19 year sentence. The sentence will run at the same time he is serving a 12 year sentence on federal racketeering charges. He has been in prison since 2014. He will get credit for the 5 years he has already served.
This lawyer is lit trying to get him killed?? He's in protective custody and he just outs him and makes him snitch on the press?! Wth like he was already snitching and he was asking things that had nothing to do with the case
Although Luis Rivera committed a terrible crime, I believe every word that came out his mouth and the lawyers can't handle the truth! Their clients are guilty as charged!!!
Dolores Stroman I agree. He literally has said that they are going to try and kill him and he’s no longer in the LATIN kings...so I don’t understand why this guy keeps trying to relate this. He’s trying to be honest about it now because the Latin kings do NOT have his back now.
Well he did contradict himself, I caught it. Which means he lied if he contradicted himself. In one such statement he says I didn’t know that we had to kill someone and just today he said Siegfried o told him that night, and they went to get gun and then bullets. Also to get 35000 and not shoot someone is a little unreal like the prosecute said to Rivera.
@@normacolon9618 Luis just couldn’t remember how the story went down but the bottom line is Katie was the middle person, and Luis Rivera got that right because Katie has been convicted by a jury so Luis River’s story is credible
I watched this trial when it originally happened but I had to come back after Charlie’s conviction and rewatch some of it, I want them to get Wendi so badly! This defense attorney Saam Zangeneh keeps talking about the Latin Kings because in a round about way he’s threatening Luis’ life, knowing that ppl are already trying to kill him, he’s throwing gas on the fire to intimidate him bc he knows the more Luis talks about LK the more trouble he will be in back in prison It’s disgusting, again Latin Kings have nothing to do with any of this, it’s all smoke and mirrors. I actually feel that Luis is credible and being honest regardless of his reasons for being honest I believe everything he’s saying. He’s also using articulate vocabulary intentionally in an effort to take advantage of someone that is illiterate. Just sick!
Yeah he’s very good looking. He reminds me a lot of my ex. Latin Kings don’t play when it comes to women & children. But yeah, they’re very dangerous but also very protective which makes you feel safe when you’re with them. You know they won’t let any harm come to you if you’re their lady. They’re also really good in other areas but I won’t talk about that 😂
well i think its psychologically harm ful to have a a family member locked up or killed . what do u think his kids feel about alll of this. THeir dad constantly in and out of prison? they didnt choose to be in the lifestyle or to have a dad who cannot read or write because his chaotic upbringing prevented him from attending school. . @@potheadzndrama215
PLEASE solve the issue of the mic by easily getting a longer stem and flexible stem so they can put the mic in front of their mouths. The cost will be minimal and save time in the court and irritation to the witness every time the Judge asks them to pull up closer to the mic. Clearly, something is wrong where they can’t pull up closer to the mic. Knees, chair, figure it out.
It pains me to say this, especially knowing I’ll get a ton of backlash…but there is something about this man that almost makes him likable (which is obvious by many comments here) and I think that’s because he’s got a conscious. My best explanation is that there are those who do bad things (i.e., murder, robbery, theft, assault, arson etc..) with no boundaries or limits. This man is not one of them as he could not kill Mr. Markel due to the children. Could he have done better in his life? Absolutely. But being born into the gang life, I can only surmise he acted and behaved in ways based on learned behaviors. It’s what he knew. As I’m writing this I’m realizing how hard it is to verbalize what I’m attempting to put in words here but if you’ve ever seen HBO’s “Dexter” you might find it somewhat relatable. A likable killer who only kills those that are evil or deserve it. No women or children. That being said I believe that there is a difference and 2 kinds of criminal. One more evil than the other where there is truly no regret to their actions. They have no boundaries and feel nothing. That does not appear to be the case with this man.
I agree, and it's a terrible situation he put himself into...he is there because his conscience....you can just tell by his actions and his answers....the defense wants to stumble him up....but Rivers is as sharp as the attorney as most criminals are.....they just chose the wrong side if the law.
I hate a snitch but something is so likeable about him! He sounds way more believable than Wendi and I don’t believe for one second that he can’t read but it cracks me up that he says it w such a serious face and makes the guy fumble and read to him 😆
Is this prosecuting attorney at the same trial. I thought this trial was about the hit on a FSU Law Professor. The attorney keeps asking questions about how Luis Rivera robs people, does he go to their house to rob them on the street. sssssh. What is he looking for when he robs them ???? money or drugs. I totally do not understand this lawyers line of questioning. The questions seem to lack relevance.
Well theblawyers point is he trying to make is Rivera has no qualms about doing robberies, assaults, etc, why would he have a thought about not killing markel, then he says again,mi don’t kill where there is children there or around, So he shot lawyer down, which in any case it may only be another lie to get off, and show he didn’t kill markel.
He is 'street smart' personified. Cant read but his intelligence overpowered that attorney and drove his attempted agenda off course. I'd say Rivera is likely the smartest human in that room, but his body language gave him away when he said he'd never ordered a KOS ;)
Rivera says to the lawyer “you’re going back and forth trying to confuse me, we’re not going to do that”-lmao 🤣🤣🤣
He's already d but yetttt
This questioning attorney is lousy
Can’t lie- he is the most honest one of the bunch.
Do you know who shot Dan Markel?
"If I ask a question that you don't understand, just tell me."
- Yeah that's what I just did.
Love this
i was proud of Luis. showing courage and standing up for his dignity
@@rachelsavard851Smh 🤦 you do realise what he did right?
@@clubfillerspinkknickers9791 not sure i should take pink knickers seriously, but yes. i believe i do. but not sure the two points are mutally exclusive
Luis is a good witness. He doesn't get defensive and remains calm. I like him. Wish he would have a better shake at life and had made better decisions.
I find myself wishing this man had made better choices in his life. He is straightforward and articulate. I think he is being truthful. He has been involved in a terrible crime but I believe if there is such a thing as an honest criminal he is it. I hope he receives some training and perhaps a way to get a GED and a better way through life.
He can’t read what a loser And Waste of papers.
He’s cold. He says to kill that man. Very cold?
i think this guy has been involved in lots of terrible crimes
@@joejoe9435 me too!
Hey, 40% of recent college graduates end up in menial jobs, because there is an over supply. A former inmate has 0 chance of getting hired, even with a PhD.😂
That's the way the market dynamics work.
Lawyer: "Go ahead, take your time.". Rivera: "I've got nothing but time. 19 years.." 🚗😂
I laughed when he said, "Let's ride"
Facts
That’s the sort of treatment that caused him to make those bad choices.
@@marshapieroni6677omg me too 😂
@@marshapieroni6677ikr! He’s straight to the meat and patatas!!! 🤷🏻♀️🙌😊
I am beginning to think Luis is smarter then the male attorney questioning him.
robin smith 😁
The stupidest lawyer I've ever heard. Luis cant read or write but he sounds like Einstein next to this smart ass idiot att
This attorney needs to get disbarred...
Bahahaaaaaaaaa
Which uni this idiot lawyer graduate from....should smack him for asking stupid question even witness gets irritated
I love how the judge has his hand on the process.
A little too much in my opinion
Doing his job.@@MustangDriver407
I feel like he's showing tremendous restraint with this irritating lawyer.
Word
If that smug attorney saw in the street he’d piss his pants.
Lawyer is stupid.
EXACTLY!
This attorney obviously doesn't realize or doesn't care that what he's doing could very likely get him killed in prison.
He's being so honest on the stand, and the defense attorneys want to try to get the jurors to believe he's lying.
Pshhht!
*YEAH FREAKING RIGHT!!!*
Are you for real?
This lawyer sounds like he's trying to set up a hit on him. Like wtf does it matter what prison he's in or what housing?
ye...i felt that also. but still trying to show them how much is Rivera risking to bring down the others
For real right?! I got that feeling too . These lawyers are just as crooked as the PoLice 🤷🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️ you see the whole family got away with a hit on the ex husband. There’s a reason for that. Money and well known makes for a good scape now look these 3 hood folk got clapped up🤷🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️ and the whole family walks. Shady asf. They set up the perfect hit. I mean look at Luis Rivera’s jacket alone 🤦🏻♀️🤣
The lawyer is trying to get him wacked and intimidate him with exposing things that are against the manifesto!!
All the "butterscotch candies" bs
Definitely trying to instill fear in him that he might be! That is what I thought also.
How to confuse a lawyer: Say you're illiterate so he can't impeach you. You just know this lawyer is having kittens trying to catch Riviera in a lie but he can't. He's trying to intimidate him but failing miserably. Riviera is honest af and honesty will rise above ego every time.
I agree
There’s no honour among thieves
If he's honest it's because he might as well be. He's speaking to things he's already doing time for. I doubt he's particularly concerned with telling the court the truth on principle.
@@johanericsson2403he is there to tell what happened in a murder. He was already serving Time for other things. And he made a plea deal
I think Riviera may have a higher IQ than most of the Lawyers in the room . I do admire him for being honest.. The other dude simply drank and did too much Cocaine. "His Best Freind .. Tato to his Tito
This man asked so many irrelevant questions. I think the judge was getting frustrated, Imagine this man Luis on the stand.
Suz P The judge is really doing a great job! He keeps the trial moving along!
I don't see them irrelevant because it goes to his crediblity.
Gwen Scott he’s making people feel bad for a cold blooded killer.
Gwen Scott Agreed. He's showing that this guy had more to do with the murder than he portrays himself as being. He claims to be only the little powerless individual who was not directly involved in the murder because he really wasn't hired by anyone, yet that doesn't ring true if he's as powerful as a leader of a national gang. Also he's bound by his gang by a code of silence yet he's ratted out the other murderer.
Suz P This condescending idiot should be really careful not to piss Luis off🥴 If looks could kill the attorney would’ve been dead 15 minutes ago!!
The male lawyer did a terrible job...asking such irrelevant questions (helping Rivera’s credibility), and boring the jury to death.
He really did just make Luis Rivera look like RobinHood 😂 I think he just liked saying words like jackBoy L, and king Tato 🤣👏🏼 probably the most interesting case he ever had 🤷🏻♀️
I just posed the same thing! My first sentence was pretty much the same as your, word for word. Yes, he did a terrible job. Is this his first case? Maybe he's still practicing for the bar.
@@challism no he represented Derek Medina, the man that killed his fiance and put it on FB. He was much worse then, but luckily the judge in this case not letting him get away with the foolishness he did at that trial. His questions were irrelevant and he was so rude to the witnesses, even the murdered woman's mother. He had this annoying habit of facing the jury whilst asking witnesses questions, refusing to face them.
Exactly, he was trying to make him look bad by talking about his gang life and all that, but all it really did was make Luis seem credible cause he admitted to his wrongdoings in his life. Usually people try to deny the crimes they've committed in the past so they don't look bad but Luis just say yes I did.
I personally think he was high himself.
I can assure you that this jury is hating this attorney right now..For a individual that can't read and write- he is wearing this attorney out..This lawyer needs to stop grandstanding! This isn't A Time To Kill..This Judge has had enough of this clown as well..
Attorneys are supposed to defend their clients. It is called doing your job. Thank goodness for our justice system.
I agree. Rivera is spinning the frustrated defense attorney like a top-- “like a toy without batteries” “yeah you couldnsay that.”
I hope ALL these murderers and conspirators get thrown in the pen for life!! RIP Dan
This man and his partner in crime threw their lives away for some pocket change just so this dentist family could get full custody of those kids. Unbelievable.
Yeah very sad..they not thinking right. Didn't think.of the consequences
@@abigizaw1419 I guess anybody is susceptible to manipulation no matter how tough they are.
😂
@@espencarlsen I agree. This happens more than we know.
Might be pocket change to you but I’m sure it was a large amount to him. I find this man’s life sad to be honest, his future was pretty much destined from birth.
It saddens me that Luis can't read or write. That means from when he was a young child he was set-up for this lifestyle. Everything about this story is just plain sad.
Maybe they were stepparents and he thinks there his real parents, I mean who would do that to a child or teenager lead them in a career of crime, disgusting parents or family.
😢
@normacolon9618....... they're terrible
Sad to you but can’t you see how proud he is of his tribe? It’s his life and he loves it. He doesn’t want to lead YOUR life. Never has. Never will.
i happy you wrote a respectful comment and one that doesn't judge him as being bad, or able to have chosen a different path
I know he is involved with a horrible murder. But when he said he couldn't read, my heart sank into my chest. He was failed at a young age. What was the Adelson's excuse?
Exactly!!!
💔😢
Agreed he deserves a new life! He derserves witness protection he was brought into this life & never had a chance with the family he was born into
They wanted full custody
He couldn't read or right. It says a lot why he is given into crime.
Wow, the lawyer is trying to threaten him on the low by saying that he is snitching!
he tried the same thing earlier with another witness and was admonished by the judge for implying that talking to the Prosecution was somehow questionable.
Yeah he was 😂 🤦🏻♀️ I got to admit though Lois Luis Rivera handles him well 😂 the lawyer treating him likes he’s stooped because he can’t read or write but he for some reason makes himself look more stupid then Rivera 😂 🤷🏻♀️
Lawyer is Not threatening him but is trying to say if he is this why did u do that?
Looooool this defence attorney is crazy and shady. Thanks judge for keeping him in check lol. Idk why but I like this witness, he is smart, he still has power...
Hes a rat
Yup. I used the made up word Skeezy cuz I was too emotional to think of the word Shady. Tw
@Kimberly Smith not so
YEP!!!
He kills people for money.
KingTato makes this lawyer look ridiculous
This judge is fantastic. He’s got no patience for badgering.
i love his Grandad voice lol
The Judge is the real deal... The defense attorney is a wannabe! 😂
Exactly , I like that too!
The judge didn’t like the lawyers going after the witnesses.
That is a good thing ! 👍❤️
Agree 👍
yeah, too many questions about the timeline, and repetition getting to it, "so it's your testimony"... etc, I am sure the jury lost interest as fast as I did.
What law school did this Attorney attend.? So everyone else knows where not to go!! OMG he is an embarrassment!
I wouldn't blame the law school. Still up to the individual to learn, grow, and develop.
@@drewpy1386 True !
I'm wanting to seriously drop kick that attorney right now! He's about the most pathetically annoying piece of work I have ever seen !!!!
Amen 🙏! This defense team is a joke!! I’ve heard better questions asked in the movie My Cousin Vinny!
Rivera was so patient with him, waaay more that I could have been,
Same.
Illiterate Luis is smarter than the unprofessional lawyer. He patiently frustrates the arrogant lawyer till he annoys the judge with irrelevant questions. LOL!
The male attorney is beyond incompetent. He couldn't form a convincing argument if his life depended on it.
Yep. Sounds like a loser. Who is he?
I get what the defense attorneys trying to point out. He’s trying to make Rivera out as a liar. But damn the defense attorney is annoying dumb and his questions are irrelevant.
I call it " grasping at straws ", nothing's working my man...move on 😂
I think he was hoping Luis would deny a lot of things so the lawyer could then show evidence that he's lying but it didn't happen that way. Instead, Luis admitted to his wrongdoings and all it did is make Luis seem more credible.
@Ger Hang 100% !!!
Extremely annoying.
It sounds like the lawyer wants to join the Latin Kings the amount of questions he was asking about them. 😂
Habahahah omg yes
Best comment! 😂
This attorney is rediculous
I actually don't think so. I think he is dealing exactly how you have to with a gang leader.
Learn to spell
Ridiculous *
I'm sure he put Rivera's life more at risk by bringing more attention to all the gang stuff that had nothing to do with the murder
Rivera is making this defense attorney look like a fool he seems actually honest with his answers and it seems like he’s a good guy unfortunately he got mixed up with The wrong crowd I hope he gets out and straighten his life out!
No one going to hire him, he’s been on tv and this court channel, Hess have to resort to same bad life.
This attorney is terrible. His chomping of gum, clicking his pen and absolutely terrible cross examination are embarrassing.
He somehow succeeded in becoming less likeable than the murderer. By a long shot.
I really don’t think this guy has had one chance in life. Not being able to read & write would have advanced all his criminal leanings dramatically. Good on him for coming forward & I sincerely hope he stays safe. I’m sure his testimony helped the prosecution immensely. God Bless 🙏
I'm sure they're very pleased to hear this testimony. Part of conspiracy and solicitation charges comes from Rivera's testimony because without that, they can't charge them for that. It's up to the prosecutors on how they will endorse Rivera's testimony as credible on the jury. Thankfully, the jury mostly believed him even if he's a gang member.
Katie and Charlie got convicted for all murder, conspiracy and solicitation charges.
Sigfredo was convicted of both murder and conspiracy but not the solicitation.
Lmao! He didn’t just come forward. You like so many others on here are delusional. He would have killed you in a fuxkin heartbeat for some money. Then had some drinks after.
@@ninacal okay now what? He is a gang member so of course he would not come forward lol are you expecting rivera to be a saint here? Lol
@@ninacal ok thanks for that. Yes I am naive 😂😂
@@batangaseaaa umm no numb nuts. I was responding to Heather.
He has dealt with way more stressful people and situations than this attorney. This is easy for him. Lol
Yeah except his past brothers are now waiting for him in general population
Why do I like this guy so much? His brutal honesty and calm demeanour maybe? It was painful to listen to that incompetent lawyer. Love the judge
I feel bad for him although he's where he belongs, after what he participated in. He was a hard worker, a brick layer boss, 15 years in the same job. Threw his life away for a little spending money.
Justice for Dan
But I know what you mean. Very likable guy if you didn't know what he has done
Would you still like him if he killed someone in your family?
I felt the same way watching his testtestimony. The lawyer was annoying asking every question twice as if doing so would change the outcome
oh its because he was so smart! every time the "educated" lawyer tried to make accomodations, but perhaps not in the ideal dignified way, Luis was able to shut him down and show his bias and judgement - such as let me know if you don't understand, and responding 'i just did '
Could this Garcia's attorney be any more annoying!! Are they real lawyers?
Sad. Luis is a well spoken and intelligent person. Never had a chance in life. He’s real honest about his illiteracy 👍🏻
Scary and dangerous guy however.
When he said I can't read and I can't write.....well I mean can we expect anything else,sad.....but we all have choices, however little they are.
afro brit Happy at peace and content. There is a difference between reading/writing simple everyday stuff. A whole different thing to be asked to read out loud a court document out on live streaming in a room full of lawyers. Remember when you started to read and write? A difference right between what the text is about? He is most definitely not the most educated person
afro brit Happy at peace and content. What part of the video did he say that?
El Chingon he was born into it as he said he never had a choice from a little kid. He left school at 12 years old. Based on that any chance he had was minuscule at best. It would have been miracle if he was able to go another route in life with no parent relative or adult guiding him since born. Is he guilty ? 100%. He’s a product of how he was raised early on. But u can’t deny he had no chance in life to go down any other road. He only knows the criminal justice system inside and out. He knows not to speak until an objection is ruled on. He doesn’t get rattled by a pompous attorney and he knows how to wait out a plea deal and getting his best offer. To me it’s the luck of being born in the USA vs being born in North Korea as an unrelated analogy.
Vivian Lee the guy is street smart. He knows the criminal justice system as good as any lawyer if not better. Yea A book report he can’t do but if u want to know what angles to play in court or prison or streets he is as “intelligent” as they come.
If Louis learned to read and write he could of done this attorneys job, he his a lot smarter
Don’t agree, Luis didn’t know what the word proceeds meant.
@@barnabascollins4625 he’s bilingual. Do you speak another language?
It is quite tragic to see him go in jail for 19 years and his rich sponsors cutting a plea deal to stay free. For some odd reason this guy seems more honest than many that are involved in this case...
Of course that was the whole plan to begin with 🤷🏻♀️ they knew that they would get off. The cops just want to hold someone accountable.. they don’t care who it is🤦🏻♀️ let the “upstanding” suburban lawyers and drs get off and throw the Latin king “thugs” in jail. This was the perfect set up. It’s crazy to me. But so obvious.
No family member cut a plea to get off.... They were never charged. But things change.
He’s not going to jail for 19 years. Less than 5
@@elindemier Correct. That's what I learned. But I heard 7 years.....Am I right?
@@diego5125 7 years that will be reduced. It’s not mandatory for him to serve it all. There’s a calculation and i think he serves 5.5 years.
WTF does his gang affiliations have to do with the family hiring hit men to kill the ex?????
He was just trying to make him look bad and discredit his testimony
He’s a waste man.
Exactly!
This could be the worst examination I have ever heard. This attorney is absolutely horrible.
Soooo when is Wendy and her maphia family going to pay for what they did?! 🤔😐
never! they got the money
@@AGUAMALAREGGAE
I sooooo hope that ends up NOT being true since this is soooo easily connected.
It's just plain crazy!!!
@Omnipresent One and you're a waste of space. Now move along
Omnipresent One Yeah, well, uh, that’s, just, like, you know, your opinion man
They are still being watched....(found guilty, Charlie)
I feel like Rivera had thought of a KOS a million times on this lawyer as he was cross examining him 🤣💯
🐁
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Well, so did I.
Amen Judge. There was almost nothing gained out of that... other than boredom and annoyance.
I have second hand embarrassment for this clown of an attorney 🤦♀️
😂 RIGHT
Same here.
@@lizettewanzer8650 I just finished watching this attorney on the surviving the survivor yt channel do an interview...he's absolutely ridiculous.🤦♀️
@@Septemberfarms How on earth did he ever manage to get through law school? That's what I wanna know.
@@lizettewanzer8650 I agree 👍🏼
I like this man. He is honest.
Very professional fair judge!
That lawyer needs to quit....
lol
What is this so called “attorney’ point? His questions seem pointless, maybe I’m ignorant but I don’t get where he’s going with them.
ortech715 just trying to paint him as a bad guy, also was trying to get some lies out of him for inconsistency and unreliability but judge shut him down. Certainly not great but only has so much to work with and try to make something
I do and somebody needs to steal his Lunch Money...again. lol
I get that he's trying to impugn the character of the witness, but my goodness. The jury already knows who this guy is and what he's done. Already knows his record and that he's not an altar boy. All this questioning about who snorted coke in the car and how much, who drank in the car and how much, how many bullets, all of the inner workings of the gang, etc. TIE YOUR QUESTIONS TO THE MATTER AT HAND already! Sheesh.
I literally laughed outloud when the defense lawyer asked him if he could tell the difference between yes or no and he laughs and says yes, and then says he's going to show him something and the judge says, _"he said he can't read, you aren't going to show him something to read. MOVE ON!"_
He just acknowledged he has sold drugs, stole from people, was a _"Jack Boy"_ , etc. WTF!? This attorney is really stupid.
Agreed 🙌🏼🙌🏼 this judge was so dope💯 the man Cooperated with the fees and his life is in the line as well now. Get to the point or shut tf up🤷🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
Way too many emojis ..wtf
What do you expect for attorneys that are appointed Free of Charge?
@@zackkazco2098not true
Tallahassee is basically Georgia
This Latin Kings documentary was very informative
😅
lool
I feel the male attorney is asking so many questions about the Latin Kings just for his own information. In case he ever has another Latin King in another trial. (He's learning something new everyday!) Many of those questions do not seem to me to be directly to do with the murder.
Defense (to Rivera) take your time, take your time. Response: "I ain't got nothing but time.
Sorry, gallows humor.
I got 19 years of time.
Rivera owned the defense attorney so many times I lost track.
It’s weird but I think if this guy was born in a right family he would be a good person!
Kind of a weird thought, but makes sense. Call me crazy, but I somehow think “Tato” was born to be a criminal and he’s right on the path he was always fixin to be on.
Really intelligent, and likable!
I agree
Me too!
@@solowu likable? Lol man you are really gullible.. you know you would not say that had you ran into him in the real world right? 🤦🏻♀️
Watching this years later I hope Luis is and stays safe.
This is a great judge he can tell this foolish attorney is trying to bully the witness!!
How has being able to read or write have anything to do with being able to translate meaning verbally from one language you speak to another language you speak? There are plenty of 3 and 4 year olds who can't read or write yet who translate words for their non English speaking parents and grandparents everyday. He really is trying to demean the witness here. Patronising prosecutor. Literacy is really no indicator of intelligence if you were never taught to read.
Habiba Duval great point!👍
absolutely on the verbal vs written. shows the lack of knowlege of the lawyer. however, i don't think he was trying to demean Luis per say, he was just revealling his bias that 90 percent of the people posting on this page are doing when they say -- hmm? i like him, or hmm? if only he or his family had made better choices
this guy is really something special with the right upbringing he could have been anything in this world he wanted to be he's very bright. He may not be able to read your right but he's brilliant
thats a bit much
He is a lifelong criminal- please remember that.
Yeah, earnest fits a little better,brilliant,kinda seems like reaching
I'm sure he reads and writes Spanish. No is no in Spanish and yes is Si which he would have seen 1000's of times. These antisocial psychopaths are very smart in the ways of crime.
What a ridiculous statement. Where the fxck do you get brilliant from?
Bravo Judge... you got your reins. High-five👋🏽
This attorney needs to quit watching hood movies. There is no manifesto dude. Please!
Manifesto 🥴
He clearly is out of his depth here. Knows zilch about inner-city life, gangs, the street, the corner, or the hood. He looks positively foolish. Did he get his law degree from Cheese Whiz University? 🙄🙄
The teacher in me wants to teach him how to read and write. It always breaks my heart when I learn someone is illiterate.
Probably a jailhouse con.
I'm sure he can get by.
I am thinking that maybe he can read a foreign language.. maybe not English..
I am hoping..
He can read and write. He passed tests in jail. He’s a lying, stealing, drug dealing gang leader and murderer who beats his girlfriend. That’s the states key witness?
He’s lying
I feel bad that he was part of murder of a father with two young boys. That is heartbreaking.
This attorney is shocking
And embarrassing!
This is painful to watch. This attorney needs to get to the dang point.
Attorney: so you drove to the hood
Luis: dude, I live in the hood.
Garcia’s lawyer thinks he is on a tv show
Dude thinks his name is David Chapelle. SMH
I can't believe this attorney---he keeps interrupting himself, jumps around, gets flagged by the Judge a few times... No wonder the defendant gets confused; he's not the only one!!
"Did you go to...wait, let me ask that another way. Were you ever involved in...well, let me put it this way." On and on and on.
This lawyer is making it very hard for me to keep watching this.
Keeps re-asking questions after being re-asked to not re-ask questions. Aye ya ya
The lawyer....my God he's horrible 👎👎👎
What does it matter how many lil bottles they had...SMH GTFOH!! this guy is bout straight facts, educated or not he's prob the most believeable. 🤫😎🤐
My all time favorite answers from Rivera to the lawyer. “I don’t remember “🤷🏻♀️😏🤣 he played it dumb the whole time but seems to be the smartest in there🤷🏻♀️🤣
This cross examination is very uncomfortable.
Judge Hankinson is not having it! "Let's move on" "you already asked that, don't ask it again"!!!
Yes he repeatedly asked the same questions just different ways.
Did you have your own firearm? Did you have your own piece lmfaooooo oh the corner? You mean in the hood like dude stop
Badgering the witness much??
Talk about cringe with this damn attorney! My gosh !!!!! 😡😡😡
Who ever told this defense attorney for Garcia that being an attorney was his calling really sold him a dream!! He is terrible! He is a complete embarrassment!
Worst!!!
*Whoever
Rivera is way smarter than that male lawyer >.
you are confusing me jumping around all over the place.
I think he knows how to read and write too
Definitely smarter lol
Whatever it was… I just have to highlight that Rivera did an amazing job keeping his cool while answering all those nonsense-repeated-all-over-the-place questions to Garcia’s imitation of a lawyer 😅😅😅
God that male defence lawyer is hard to take. Luis (even tho illiterate )is 100% smarter than that lawyer. The Judge is awesome in permitting no lawyer to grandstand.
This attorney seems to be interested in becoming a Latin King
The defense attorney is so funny. Some of his questions have me rolling on the floor laughing 😂😂😂😂
Love the judge says I think the jury had enough! Lol
How sad that this witness was born into this criminal culture,never learned to read and at the age of 32 his life is essentially over.
Very sad for him. No real parents to show him the way to live and real life get educated.
If he has kids what future do they have??? This is the unkindest vicious cycle.
His life isn't over. He made a deal and got 151 months.
He got 7 years. 5 years flat parole on 2
@@melsar1977 On the murder charge he was given a 19 year sentence. The sentence will run at the same time he is serving a 12 year sentence on federal racketeering charges. He has been in prison since 2014. He will get credit for the 5 years he has already served.
This lawyer is lit trying to get him killed?? He's in protective custody and he just outs him and makes him snitch on the press?! Wth like he was already snitching and he was asking things that had nothing to do with the case
Although Luis Rivera committed a terrible crime, I believe every word that came out his mouth and the lawyers can't handle the truth! Their clients are guilty as charged!!!
Dolores Stroman I agree. He literally has said that they are going to try and kill him and he’s no longer in the LATIN kings...so I don’t understand why this guy keeps trying to relate this. He’s trying to be honest about it now because the Latin kings do NOT have his back now.
Well he did contradict himself, I caught it. Which means he lied if he contradicted himself. In one such statement he says I didn’t know that we had to kill someone and just today he said Siegfried o told him that night, and they went to get gun and then bullets. Also to get 35000 and not shoot someone is a little unreal like the prosecute said to Rivera.
@@normacolon9618 Luis just couldn’t remember how the story went down but the bottom line is Katie was the middle person, and Luis Rivera got that right because Katie has been convicted by a jury so Luis River’s story is credible
Why do I get such pleasure when judge shoots down Garcia's defense attorney with his stupid questions
What is the relevance for this line of questioning
I watched this trial when it originally happened but I had to come back after Charlie’s conviction and rewatch some of it, I want them to get Wendi so badly! This defense attorney Saam Zangeneh keeps talking about the Latin Kings because in a round about way he’s threatening Luis’ life, knowing that ppl are already trying to kill him, he’s throwing gas on the fire to intimidate him bc he knows the more Luis talks about LK the more trouble he will be in back in prison It’s disgusting, again Latin Kings have nothing to do with any of this, it’s all smoke and mirrors. I actually feel that Luis is credible and being honest regardless of his reasons for being honest I believe everything he’s saying. He’s also using articulate vocabulary intentionally in an effort to take advantage of someone that is illiterate. Just sick!
I agree! It definitely seemed like the cross was about intimidation. He hardly stuck to the Markel murder
Handsome but very very dangerous! He was extremely patient with the lawyer and was getting tired. such a sad story the Adelsons ruined so many lives!
The only life they ruined was Dan's and his children. The gang members life was already ruined.
He ruined his own life. The Adelson’s are evil, but they didn’t force this man to do what he did.
Yeah he’s very good looking. He reminds me a lot of my ex. Latin Kings don’t play when it comes to women & children. But yeah, they’re very dangerous but also very protective which makes you feel safe when you’re with them. You know they won’t let any harm come to you if you’re their lady. They’re also really good in other areas but I won’t talk about that 😂
@@potheadzndrama215 luis rivera is more good looking than charles adelson when incarcerated.
well i think its psychologically harm
ful to have a a family member locked up or killed . what do u think his kids feel about alll of this. THeir dad constantly in and out of prison? they didnt choose to be in the lifestyle or to have a dad who cannot read or write because his chaotic upbringing prevented him from attending school. . @@potheadzndrama215
The lawyer is tripping himself up lol
Tripping up? Hes been face first for the last hour.. 🖕
PLEASE solve the issue of the mic by easily getting a longer stem and flexible stem so they can put the mic in front of their mouths. The cost will be minimal and save time in the court and irritation to the witness every time the Judge asks them to pull up closer to the mic. Clearly, something is wrong where they can’t pull up closer to the mic. Knees, chair, figure it out.
I thought the exact same thing-I almost feel like buying an extension myself, taking it there and installing it.
Luis...is honest about what he knows,
It pains me to say this, especially knowing I’ll get a ton of backlash…but there is something about this man that almost makes him likable (which is obvious by many comments here) and I think that’s because he’s got a conscious.
My best explanation is that there are those who do bad things (i.e., murder, robbery, theft, assault, arson etc..) with no boundaries or limits. This man is not one of them as he could not kill Mr. Markel due to the children.
Could he have done better in his life? Absolutely. But being born into the gang life, I can only surmise he acted and behaved in ways based on learned behaviors. It’s what he knew.
As I’m writing this I’m realizing how hard it is to verbalize what I’m attempting to put in words here but if you’ve ever seen HBO’s “Dexter” you might find it somewhat relatable. A likable killer who only kills those that are evil or deserve it. No women or children.
That being said I believe that there is a difference and 2 kinds of criminal. One more evil than the other where there is truly no regret to their actions. They have no boundaries and feel nothing. That does not appear to be the case with this man.
Define ‘evil'
Showtime Dexter
Conscience*
I agree, and it's a terrible situation he put himself into...he is there because his conscience....you can just tell by his actions and his answers....the defense wants to stumble him up....but Rivers is as sharp as the attorney as most criminals are.....they just chose the wrong side if the law.
Absolutely correct.
I hate a snitch but something is so likeable about him! He sounds way more believable than Wendi and I don’t believe for one second that he can’t read but it cracks me up that he says it w such a serious face and makes the guy fumble and read to him 😆
I know almost everyone communicates with texting so he’s gotta know some!
Love this Judge!!
“Well let me ask you this...” 🤦🏼♀️ if I had a dollar for for every time this defense attorney said this during this trial!!!
Take a drink every time he says that or "Let me put it this way" or "Let me rephrase."
Is this prosecuting attorney at the same trial. I thought this trial was about the hit on a FSU Law Professor. The attorney keeps asking questions about how Luis Rivera robs people, does he go to their house to rob them on the street. sssssh. What is he looking for when he robs them ???? money or drugs. I totally do not understand this lawyers line of questioning. The questions seem to lack relevance.
TOTAL lack of revealence .. F- for this A hole attorney
The lawyer here is a defense attorney, not a prosecuting attorney. The tall blonde woman is the only prosecuting attorney working the case right now.
He is trying to get Luis Rivera killed and the jury to hate him and distrust him.
Well theblawyers point is he trying to make is Rivera has no qualms about doing robberies, assaults, etc, why would he have a thought about not killing markel, then he says again,mi don’t kill where there is children there or around, So he shot lawyer down, which in any case it may only be another lie to get off, and show he didn’t kill markel.
I love the judge💯🙌🏼👏🏼👏🏼
“Well let me ask you this…” “well let me ask it this way…” dude. You’re driving me crazy.
And also trying the patience of the judge. I'll bet the judge noticed jurors either nodding off or seeing their eyes glazed over.
I always thought it was weird when people wrote to people in prison that they don’t know. Here I am now, wondering how I can write Luis.
He can't read it; he doesn't understand any written language.
28:05
He is 'street smart' personified. Cant read but his intelligence overpowered that attorney and drove his attempted agenda off course. I'd say Rivera is likely the smartest human in that room, but his body language gave him away when he said he'd never ordered a KOS ;)
He has undoubtedly committed many acts of cruelty and violence in his life. You can see the coldness in his eyes.
Luis is better than me. He's answering very calmly, while we all know this Lawyer is a 🐴! Even the judge has had enough!!