For reference, it really didn't sound like it, especially since this is the internet. You'd be surprised how many people are completely apathetic to an excellent story. I mean, look how many people hate The Witcher 3 because the combat's a bit wonky.
@@buca117 Old comment, but I'll reply anyway: Hating game play mechanics does NOT mean hating the story. There are plenty of shitty games with good stories. Besides, for me, a good story in a game is a just a bonus, and certainly not the main reason why I play that game.
@@johnnymartinjohansen "You'd be surprised how many people are completely apathetic to an excellent story." Sounds like you swing this direction on the 'gameplay vs experience' pendulum.
"no one really gives a shit about a story in a deus ex game" and the game clocks in about 12 hours, sidemissions included? Hah, whatchu been smokin, Gman?
no way you did all side missions, main missions and points of interest in 12 hours. I've put 20 in and have just finished searching miller's apartment.
I'm surprised that it took you 12hrs to beat the game. I'm a little over 7hrs of just exploring and doing tons of side missions and just now I'm planning on meeting Miller at the task force hq for the first time. I'm actually going to continue exploring the city before seeing him. The city is massive and this is just one section. This is easily going to be a 30+hrs for me.
30 hours in and just started mission 7/8 an awesome game if you try to collect and explore everything before continuing with the main storyline. I think the game has 12 side missions and 16 main missions so i guess im halfway there.
same here over 30+ hours. I'm still doing some side missions but I can feel like I'm reaching the climax. Probably an extra 5-7 hours and I'll be done with the game. Easily an amazing game. Hard to put the controller down.
The problem with MD is it feels like it's gonna be huge then you realise the Prague hub is it. The missions taking place elsewhere feature little to no real exploration and are mainly linear with a few extra pathways (vents) here and there. Then the game just ends. Legit thought I was about halfway through when the I finished the game the first time.
I think Gman has proven to be more of a fan of linear shooters, and when a game doesn't throw a thousand markers of side missions on someone's screen, they might end up thinking the side missions are only going to be super obvious ones, whereas Deus Ex takes the subtle "happened upon it" approach, whether you took a wrong turn in the sewer or noticed a particularly strange sight through an otherwise unsuspecting apartment window. I wish every game with side missions would be that good at it, but for now it'll just stay as the reason Deus Ex is my favorite series, and I'm incredibly excited about future games and the way they use increasingly better development technology to make the most detailed, expansive, dense hub areas the series has seen. Prague, Hong Kong, Hengsha, Hell's Kitchen... All amazing, all ecamples of why a combination with extremely polished design could make for something incredibly immersive. It's been a dream since I was a kid to play a free roam game with every interior building unique and one you can enter. That seems like the natural next step for the series if they get manage to pull it off without destroying our CPU's.
@@treefingers6572 I totally agree with you, making divided is the first imercive sim I've ever played and it was delightfull to explore every nook and cranny of that city,it almost gave me some Metroidvania/classic JRPG vibes by the lack of hand holding,but I still have not finished the game though But a lot of fans of the series say it's kinda of not as good compared to human revolution and others of the series,mainly because of the not as good story apparently.and I must say that it kinda looks like it,the way they showcase the media and themes of the game looks a little too simplistic,kinda like watch dogs 2,and no where near filosofical as people make the series to be I may try deus ex 1 to find it out though
I'll play the Arkham games and I'll do every side mission EXCEPT for finding EVERY Riddler Trophy. Nigma can rot in hell, waiting on me, far as I'm concerned... So I can kind of understand if some people don't feel the need to play anything outside of the core story. 🤷🏾♂️
@@BigBlackGuyReviews true the riddled ones were a bit dull, but dude in mankind divided these side missions are amazing. They're like legit self contained story missions. But u have to seek them out, explore the city to find them. And they progress and open the further u go into the main story. So u could miss some if u just plow through the story, return in later chapters that side mission is gone. So I can see how people didn't see or miss them myself included.
2 hours in this is already my favourite Deus Ex game, I absolutely love the art style and the hub world is gorgeous and super detailed. The gameplay and level design is even more open ended that HR and super addictive. The story is interesting so far as well
There is no way doing all the side quests and the main campaign only took you 12 hours, even if you were to rush it all, skipping through the dialogue and knowing where everything is before the fact.. There are 12 sidequests and 17 missions. At least all of the sidequests each take an hour to complete, let alone the multi-phase missions in the utulek complex or G.A.R.M. or the final mission in london. Besides, the game is incredibly replayable, with so much versatility in gameplay, you can tackle missions in a variety number of ways.
@@eaflores93 I see people calling it absolute shit, which is so ignorant and despicable, especially two years later when people who give a shit about the series would have played again and tried taking their time because they know it's short... Then they'd be incredibly surprised. That's a perfect world, but we live in one where people who don't even play the games are calling it shit because douchebag Dave from cookie cutter RUclips channel: "definitely not another longform 'essay' channel that literally describes the plot and then nitpicks for 3 hours" screamed about it for 3 hours and called it shit.
12 hours? You may have done side quests but your certainly didn't read the majority of the stuff that's in the game right? I mean pocket secretaries, newspapers, people's computers, etc. I'm asking cuz the consensus is that the game is 20 hours average, 25-30 leisure and at least 15 rushed. I have about 6 in game hours and just finished the Palisade Bank side quest at the start of the game. I'm really impressed....
Could you tell me from whom do you get the side quest? Cause I got there myself and cased it top to bottom without any quest :D And 12 hours is obviously bullshit, dunno where that came from - he said it felt short, maybe his steam timer got stuck>? ;D
+MightySavagE Sure. Some dude in the agency, I think Chang, Chong or something, will ask you to investigate a hacker that is trying to breach into the Task Force 29. Follow this sidequest, it will lead you to the Palisade one.
awww yeah, hahah I talked to chang after going through Pallisade. The vaults were very disappointing tho - barely any good stuff in them. Wonder if the quest is gonna auto-complete itself at one point as I probably have all the info now :D
+MightySavagE You'll probably have to explore it again. The thing you must find there isn't exactly what I expected. It took me some time to find it haha
Victor Vasconcellos thanks for not spoiling what it is! Wonder if they're gonna replace the security as i killed most of the staff xD (did not have any sleeper guns or tasers :( )
MY PS4 version completely fucked up, I reset a tutorial just as I was flash banged and I was stuck with a massive white patch and had to restart the entire game >.>
i found your channel today after watching few videos i have to tell you .... you are awesome man honest and straightforward you are going to be my only source for reviews from now
I didn’t like Human Revolution. I found the narrative lacked subtlety. I did like Mankind Divided, though. The developers seemed to have gotten better at the level design and I loved making my way around Prague.
It really depends what the game was going for and what should happen if the player goes off course. I remember in the first splinter cell game, it was basically game over and have to restart a checkpoint if too much alarms were raised. Stealth games today usually allow alarms to be raised and the game to still go on, but that does not mean combat should be encourage in said stealth game. Even if someone takes an action oriented approach, they are better off taking enemies out silently before direct combat as fire fights becomes more easier if there are less people shooting at you. Even then it is better to hide and make the enemies search for you in order to take them out one by one. (use them vents when you see them) Also remember to use them augmentations as some of them can help in direct combat. And you can still hack stuff for xp and stuff.
Like it's predecessor this is worth buying to me for the art design (especially architecture) alone. It does a fantastic job of building a believable future world.
Dawid Freeman I know right, took it out for free at my library and beat it in that time a month after it came out...try a few months of bad press and fan backlash, the popular games keep their high price tags for years if they were success, but if they barely made what companies call "the success line" or did poorly they will drop in price fast, faster if poorly as ME: Andromeda No Man's Sky proved (bought this at 17 dollars at gamestop 2 months ago along with two other games, I saw the two mentioned poorly viewed games under 20 and in NMS case under 15 around the 4th month of their release i believe I remembered...likelt why they put so mich focus on release date sales like they think there a movie or something which makes sense with all this talk of comparing games to movies and too much emphasize on making them more movie like in taking control away from you, then gameplay "Making mor one-dimensional stories for games was a mistake" - "paulman34340: RUclipsr commenter").
Other great fucking review, honestly the videos in the past month have been spot on, By the end of the year hopefully you can get to 100k. Anyway great work, keep up the sick reviews
Been playing for several hours. The game is clearly designed around multiple playthroughs. DO NOT QUICKSAVE AND DO NOT QUICKLOAD! this game is clearly meant to be played as you go. Like real life, do not expect a perfect playthrough.
12 hours is a ridiculously low estimate especially considering you said you tried to explore and do all the side quests. I'm at 25 hours in and I'm just finishing off mission 12 and from what I can tell I've still got a bit to go yet before completing it. That is with doing a lot of exploration/side quests and trying to read most of the the ebooks and pocket secretaries, hack all the safes and vaults e.t.c. A lot of the story is hidden in these things and you're missing out on a lot if you skip it.
That's not an estimate, it's how long my game time was in Steam when I'd finished it. I played it again in NG+ and it took a similar amount of time to finish as well.
Well then you rushed through it. Deus Ex games aren't designed to be rushed through, there's so much story and content hidden throughout the game and you have to go looking for it. This isn't new for the series. Obviously anyone can play the game the way they see fit but they will be missing out on a lot of the experience if they choose to rush through it. I just think it's unfair to call this a 12 hr game after saying you've explored as much as you could and done side missions when people who have actually done that are reporting 20hrs + at least.
DannnyL Deus Ex games are meant to be replayed over and over. I have since finished it 3 times. I got my money's worth. Also there is no right or wrong way to play Deus Ex games. I enjoyed the experience despite how short it was for me, so I don't know why you're so upset.
Deus Ex, based on the hours played, is one of the best Single Player Campaigns I ever bought. The hours of enjoyment I have gotten from this title can only be equaled by multi player titles like GTA5 or BF4. The Dead space games come close, but when I check at STEAM the single player game I have logged the most hours playing over the years is this one. I am in fact playing through the last two again as I type this. If money spend vs hours of enjoyment are used as a basis of judging a game … Deus Ex defiantly ranks as money well spent.
Just picked this up a few weeks back, I was expecting it to be 12 hours from this review but I beat it after a solid 37, and I doubt I've cleared all the content.
Nice review mate. One issue not raised is the boss fights, if there are any. My biggest issue with the previous game was speccing stealth then having a hard time with the bosses where stealth was irrelevant as most were just bullet sponges. Wondering if that is still the case?
Gggmanlives Cool and thanks for the reply man. Glad to hear they changed that aspect. PS Not sure if your a rugby fan but apologies in advance if we slaughter you tomorrow night. Hugs from NZ.
de:hr was great, glad to hear there's no major concerns and performance is good at launch, will be picking it up shortly. don't mind it being short either.
Well, to be honest no Deus Ex story was really ever something to write home about. The first game was mind blowing when it came out, but have you played it recently? Story wise, it doesn't hold up nearly as well. Human Revolution was probably the most decent, and even then I largely forgot most of the details. and I've played it three times. To me, Deus Ex was more about world immersion, as oppose to story telling. The story just accompanied the whole immersion process as I dicked around.
***** Yea, the best thing about the story of the first game is not just what happen on the plot. But also the progression, how we always face a moral choice (even the meaningless) and how each conversation hold something. Even to small role NPCs. The way JC gave so many blows on both the NSF and the MJ12 operations was exiting. Meet the iluminati and they're ways of do things, Tong clan too. Even the start, who was Walton Simons. Idk, Mankind Divided just lack all that for me. First off, the way they gave us choices on HR and it has no weigh on the new game is disappointing (Invisible War did an amazing job in that aspect). Also, we kind of know already the game.. Adam Know about the iluminati and how it work, the game is just a linear path with no moral choices, Adam still just a pawn and alienate him self, it's all about megan again.... and we know how it will end... Augs will be wipped out and the black plague will start.
i think invisible war gets too much hate. at least i had the choice of going lethal or stealth (unlike HR which gives more xp for stealth. didnt play MD but i assume the same), who to side with, etc. i also liked the funny engine physics in iw. it was hilarious tossing ragdolls around and smacking people in the face with the dragon sword or baton. also im not too big on prequels in general because like you said "we know how it will end." oh, adam's doing this and that? sorry, not gonna matter, because *cue the grey death from deus ex 1* all that hard work gone to waste.
I Love the part at 2:40 where you said the visuals looked great and the girl was over on the left side just twitching her neck left and right. I just Died!!!
I personally love the game so far. Of course it's not nearly as good as the original, but it's better than HR for me personally! Graphics are stunning too.
I beat the game on give me deus ex this morning and got the spokes in two wheels. And it only took me 15 hours. No I am serious. 15 hours on hard. with almost everything complete.
It is not relevant to this video but i just wanted to say thank you Cgg. Thanks to your retro reviews i started playing old fps that use the doom engine and im having lots of fun. I cant believe i havent touched any of them until now. Just thank you, i thought all gaming went to shit and i almost stopped playing video games altogether until i started watching your channel. Keep the awesome work man.
Just found about your site yesterday and been binge watching it since, could you do a top 20 or top 10 video of your favorite games? I know ether Doom or Fear is number one according to one of your comments but it would be a fun thing to watch.
'Mankind Divided' seems like a graphically upgraded 'Human Revolution'. As said the graphics are stunning compared to its predecessor though it shares also some of its annoyances like the overdose of cut scenes; the 3th person hiding mode and a misty story. A stealthy play through is advised but I prefer to shoot my way through the levels. This becomes somewhat of a problem in the end where you are supposed to bypass the police. I got also annoyed with the alarm set off in every hacking attempt so one has to upgrade augmentations in that area as well. I am not a real fan of the series though I enjoyed this one the most.
I have enjoyed all the Deus Ex games I have played, even Invisible War. I think I prefer Human Revolution to Mankind Divided simply because of the hub worlds. Being able to explore China as well as Detroit was a blast, and watching these videos has me downloading Human Revolution again!
If I have to recomend someone this games, I would say Human Revolution before Mankind Divided, not just for chronological reasons but I really enjoyed most the previous one. Even taking that in account mankind divided is a good game, I finished it in 35 hours doing lots of side missions but not all, and truly, the game was made with stealth in mind. You can blast your way trough it but is generally harder (really harder) and the combat sistem not fully satisfying (to me at least).
Hey ggman isn't there that mode where your in this training program and it looks weirdly cool? I saw another review before yours and they mentioned that how come you didn't bring that up too? Heard it was a good way to expand upon the game more
We should care. The fact that microtransactions, something that was once confined to shitty mobile games, are now in $60 AAA titles is beyond unacceptable. And what about the pre-order bonuses that you can only use once and for one save file? And locking augmentations behind day one DLC? Bull. Fucking. Shit.
nope, you've just lost control. I understand your frustration- the pre-order save file issue is... unsavory, but you are acting incredibly privileged. 60$ is a steal for most titles, need I remind you certain games that were only around 3 hours long went for 180$ back in the day? The gaming market has adjusted for inflation simply. Econ 101 really. You act as if publishers owe something, they really don't. And I might add, praxis kits- along with credits seem to be extremely abundant in this game relatively to the last- as Ggman said. It seems perhaps it is an issue with the publisher rather then the developer. I think they put it in for the few people that want to spend money- that is all. nothing is required. both the augmentations that are "behind a dlc wall" are useless lol. "beyond unacceptable," no offense- that argument is insane.
He is here to talk about the gameplay, if there are micro transactions then people will know. Does it suck? Yes. Can something be done about it? Yes, don't buy them. Then that will force publishers to make devs chop games up like Destiny and others, or another game price jump. They have to get paid, and the devs don't get to make the choices on the money. I don't understand why people don't get that, the devs don't get to control every aspect of their game. If the publisher says you gotta do this and the devs says no, then they will cancel the game. That is just how business works. It sucks that games have come to this, but once publishers realized they could get away with it, they will continue to try and squeeze our wallets dry.
so, what next? a full remake of the original Deus Ex? that would be neat, however the old graphics of the original have their own charm do you agree? how do you feel about the remake thing?
I finished the main story and most of the side missions in about 38 hours. The original is still my favorite in the series, but this one beats IW and HR pretty handily.
I can see that you haven't experimented much with the game before reviewing. You were complaining that the experimental augments overheat your system, but very early on you can get a calibrator to remove the concept entirely. You said it's just a DE:HR clone with more augments, however, the environment, story and gunplay is way better, and isn't that what you expect with sequels?
I have no idea how you beat the game and all side missions in 12 hours. I did everything I could and clocked in at over 20. And I'm no Deus Ex slouch either.
The new Deus Ex Mankind Divided is only 12 hrs? If so I'm waiting for a steep price drop. Human Revolution took me 20-25hrs and I ignored many of the side missions.
meant to be played. I hope someday we get a Deus Ex with different possibilities to play, which rewards you nearly equally. Nevermind. Gggmanlives, do you want to take a look at "They" ? It tried new things with weapon costumization and failed at that. Maybe it is worth a look
only few issue I have with Human Revolution is the fact you have to wait several second in between knocking people out with melee since for some reason it drains your batteries which doesn't make a lick of sense, since your suppose to be a super human, and you're suppose to be able to punch people all day. Another is how ridiculous the fall damage was. I mean did Adam got glass legs or something? How does falling 5 feet almost kill you?! Come on your supposed to be augmented a regular human can handle falling 5 feet but Adam can't?!
Yeah, fall damage is ridiculous. High battery drain is there, so you dont run around insta-killing dudes with x-ray vision on. Its the same way you pick up a gun, and there's like 3 bullets in it - balancing.
i guess the fall damage might be so ridiculous to make you spend those 2 praxis points on the aug so you can utilize high drops in missions or such shit but otherwise it really doesn't make sense as i can recall one time the aug helped me in a mission, and that was a side mission anyway. otherwise it just helps you save time while travelling
Gggmanlives how where the boss fights (if any)? I remember Human Revolution also reward you for playing stealthy but the boss fights became a real pain if you took the stealth approach.
Love Ya Ggg but You got this one wrong imo...12 hours im calling Bullshit You said You did most sidequests and other content there is just no way all that could be fone in 12hrs
"Nobody gives a shit about the story"
*entire Deus Ex fanbase triggered*
That's the joke.
For reference, it really didn't sound like it, especially since this is the internet.
You'd be surprised how many people are completely apathetic to an excellent story. I mean, look how many people hate The Witcher 3 because the combat's a bit wonky.
@@buca117 Old comment, but I'll reply anyway: Hating game play mechanics does NOT mean hating the story. There are plenty of shitty games with good stories. Besides, for me, a good story in a game is a just a bonus, and certainly not the main reason why I play that game.
@@johnnymartinjohansen "You'd be surprised how many people are completely apathetic to an excellent story."
Sounds like you swing this direction on the 'gameplay vs experience' pendulum.
"no one really gives a shit about a story in a deus ex game" and the game clocks in about 12 hours, sidemissions included? Hah, whatchu been smokin, Gman?
Why not? Since it is a big part of the game, it needs to be reviewed.
YEAH LETS JUST SPOIL THE WHOLE FUCKING GAME IN A REVIEW THAT HELPS YOU DECIDE WHETER TO BUY THIS GAME OR NOT.
No, it was a crappy joke. I thought it would've been obvious by my tone of voice. Oh well...
Claire Finnerty
how do you "review" a story then lol?
Gggmanlives glad you cleared that out! ^^'
no way you did all side missions, main missions and points of interest in 12 hours. I've put 20 in and have just finished searching miller's apartment.
Git gud, finished all optionnal missions and points of interest in 15 hours.
@@metacube9913 then you were rushing and not exploring either
Meta Cube it took me around 4 hours to do the bank heist side quest lol. You must be playing on the lowest difficulty
@@Outplayedqt I think you're just shit at FPS games. L2p and git gud
Funny, i searched his apartment near the start
Talks about optimisation.
Flashes picture of No Mans Sky.
Fucking burn.
yeah what a burn to compare a little indie game to an aaa title lmao
There's plenty of Triple A titles I could've shown that run like shit too.
Gggmanlives Can you give me a list?
Recently? Most Ubisoft games like Watchdogs, The Division, AC, etc, Mirror's Edge Catalyst, Dying Light, Just Cause 3, Arkham Knight...should I go on?
Gggmanlives Fuck
I love Modern gaming
I'm surprised that it took you 12hrs to beat the game. I'm a little over 7hrs of just exploring and doing tons of side missions and just now I'm planning on meeting Miller at the task force hq for the first time. I'm actually going to continue exploring the city before seeing him. The city is massive and this is just one section. This is easily going to be a 30+hrs for me.
30 hours in and just started mission 7/8 an awesome game if you try to collect and explore everything before continuing with the main storyline. I think the game has 12 side missions and 16 main missions so i guess im halfway there.
same here over 30+ hours. I'm still doing some side missions but I can feel like I'm reaching the climax. Probably an extra 5-7 hours and I'll be done with the game. Easily an amazing game. Hard to put the controller down.
How reviewers do their thing, rush it to give half cooked opinions.
The problem with MD is it feels like it's gonna be huge then you realise the Prague hub is it. The missions taking place elsewhere feature little to no real exploration and are mainly linear with a few extra pathways (vents) here and there. Then the game just ends. Legit thought I was about halfway through when the I finished the game the first time.
i finished it at 40 hrs, i think u missed a lot of side missions gggman. the side missions in this game u find by exploring thr city.
I think Gman has proven to be more of a fan of linear shooters, and when a game doesn't throw a thousand markers of side missions on someone's screen, they might end up thinking the side missions are only going to be super obvious ones, whereas Deus Ex takes the subtle "happened upon it" approach, whether you took a wrong turn in the sewer or noticed a particularly strange sight through an otherwise unsuspecting apartment window.
I wish every game with side missions would be that good at it, but for now it'll just stay as the reason Deus Ex is my favorite series, and I'm incredibly excited about future games and the way they use increasingly better development technology to make the most detailed, expansive, dense hub areas the series has seen. Prague, Hong Kong, Hengsha, Hell's Kitchen... All amazing, all ecamples of why a combination with extremely polished design could make for something incredibly immersive.
It's been a dream since I was a kid to play a free roam game with every interior building unique and one you can enter. That seems like the natural next step for the series if they get manage to pull it off without destroying our CPU's.
@@treefingers6572 I totally agree with you, making divided is the first imercive sim I've ever played and it was delightfull to explore every nook and cranny of that city,it almost gave me some Metroidvania/classic JRPG vibes by the lack of hand holding,but I still have not finished the game though
But a lot of fans of the series say it's kinda of not as good compared to human revolution and others of the series,mainly because of the not as good story apparently.and I must say that it kinda looks like it,the way they showcase the media and themes of the game looks a little too simplistic,kinda like watch dogs 2,and no where near filosofical as people make the series to be
I may try deus ex 1 to find it out though
I'll play the Arkham games and I'll do every side mission EXCEPT for finding EVERY Riddler Trophy.
Nigma can rot in hell, waiting on me, far as I'm concerned...
So I can kind of understand if some people don't feel the need to play anything outside of the core story. 🤷🏾♂️
@@BigBlackGuyReviews true the riddled ones were a bit dull, but dude in mankind divided these side missions are amazing. They're like legit self contained story missions. But u have to seek them out, explore the city to find them. And they progress and open the further u go into the main story. So u could miss some if u just plow through the story, return in later chapters that side mission is gone. So I can see how people didn't see or miss them myself included.
This game is the best game 90 percent of people passed on
2 hours in this is already my favourite Deus Ex game, I absolutely love the art style and the hub world is gorgeous and super detailed. The gameplay and level design is even more open ended that HR and super addictive. The story is interesting so far as well
Human revolution (the version with fixed bosses) is a really nice game. Enjoyed it a ton. The dlc was also a breath of fresh air.
There is no way doing all the side quests and the main campaign only took you 12 hours, even if you were to rush it all, skipping through the dialogue and knowing where everything is before the fact.. There are 12 sidequests and 17 missions. At least all of the sidequests each take an hour to complete, let alone the multi-phase missions in the utulek complex or G.A.R.M. or the final mission in london.
Besides, the game is incredibly replayable, with so much versatility in gameplay, you can tackle missions in a variety number of ways.
2:39 What is that woman doing to the left? lol
She just can't believe what she saw on screen
She just finished playing Invisible War.
She's playing Deus Ex: The Fall
She was like Nope nope nope nope
Invisible Joe Biden was behind her
You've become the only person I go to for game reviews. It's nice to know that there's at least one person who gives a fair, honest review.
How the heck did you beat this game in 12 hours?!? I must say I'm impressed! I'm 8 hours in and I'm only on mission 3. Great review as always!
My reviewing is augmented.
+Gggmanlives Fucking Aug
clank
he is no mortal
Took me 12 hours to even start the first mission. There is TONS of content in this game.
Exactly.
Yeah, I know right. I mean, people should be thankful that we got this great game, not criticise every f*****g thing.
lol :D I have a half eaten banana....do you want it for 40€? :D
@@eaflores93 I see people calling it absolute shit, which is so ignorant and despicable, especially two years later when people who give a shit about the series would have played again and tried taking their time because they know it's short... Then they'd be incredibly surprised.
That's a perfect world, but we live in one where people who don't even play the games are calling it shit because douchebag Dave from cookie cutter RUclips channel: "definitely not another longform 'essay' channel that literally describes the plot and then nitpicks for 3 hours" screamed about it for 3 hours and called it shit.
"tons of content"
Yeah, definitely not...
12 hours? You may have done side quests but your certainly didn't read the majority of the stuff that's in the game right? I mean pocket secretaries, newspapers, people's computers, etc. I'm asking cuz the consensus is that the game is 20 hours average, 25-30 leisure and at least 15 rushed. I have about 6 in game hours and just finished the Palisade Bank side quest at the start of the game. I'm really impressed....
Could you tell me from whom do you get the side quest? Cause I got there myself and cased it top to bottom without any quest :D
And 12 hours is obviously bullshit, dunno where that came from - he said it felt short, maybe his steam timer got stuck>? ;D
+MightySavagE Sure. Some dude in the agency, I think Chang, Chong or something, will ask you to investigate a hacker that is trying to breach into the Task Force 29. Follow this sidequest, it will lead you to the Palisade one.
awww yeah, hahah I talked to chang after going through Pallisade. The vaults were very disappointing tho - barely any good stuff in them. Wonder if the quest is gonna auto-complete itself at one point as I probably have all the info now :D
+MightySavagE You'll probably have to explore it again. The thing you must find there isn't exactly what I expected. It took me some time to find it haha
Victor Vasconcellos thanks for not spoiling what it is! Wonder if they're gonna replace the security as i killed most of the staff xD (did not have any sleeper guns or tasers :( )
MY PS4 version completely fucked up, I reset a tutorial just as I was flash banged and I was stuck with a massive white patch and had to restart the entire game >.>
i found your channel today after watching few videos i have to tell you .... you are awesome man honest and straightforward you are going to be my only source for reviews from now
Thanks!
"Mankind Divided is an amazing looking game" Meanwhile 2:40 I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH, I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH.
Reminds me of an angry cat's tail!
You are such a great reviewer and should have way more subscribers. Thank you for your on point honest reviews
The story was short...but the immersion in story and dialogue is what makes it stand apart...and of course the voice of adam jensen is the best
I didn’t like Human Revolution. I found the narrative lacked subtlety. I did like Mankind Divided, though. The developers seemed to have gotten better at the level design and I loved making my way around Prague.
And generally, MD improved everything from HR it feels like a proper immersive sims.
@@roxcellako100% it was amazing to play MD, HR feels inconsistent at times.
I dislike when games punish you for taking an aggressive approach to combat if the option to do so is there. Doesn't make sense.
Well, you can always just go play Doom for a while. /s
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That doesn't make sense either.
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But doesn't less XP mean less stuff you get to unlock? Or does the aggressive style require less things to be needed?
It really depends what the game was going for and what should happen if the player goes off course. I remember in the first splinter cell game, it was basically game over and have to restart a checkpoint if too much alarms were raised.
Stealth games today usually allow alarms to be raised and the game to still go on, but that does not mean combat should be encourage in said stealth game.
Even if someone takes an action oriented approach, they are better off taking enemies out silently before direct combat as fire fights becomes more easier if there are less people shooting at you. Even then it is better to hide and make the enemies search for you in order to take them out one by one. (use them vents when you see them)
Also remember to use them augmentations as some of them can help in direct combat.
And you can still hack stuff for xp and stuff.
12 hours? Did you run through the game to reach the ending? I played normal pace and tried out other paths and side missions and it took me 22 hours..
mind taking a look at Arx Fatalis?
Here's my review: It's fucking great until the Ylsides show up.
That would be interesting. I haven't played that game in years
never played it just found it mentioned in a preview for the Dishonored sequel
You should try it! It's a great game.
Good idea. I've got the game on PC and remember it on Xbox.
Like it's predecessor this is worth buying to me for the art design (especially architecture) alone. It does a fantastic job of building a believable future world.
Nice review :) Nr 1 rule for modern Gaming : ALWAYS BUY GAMES AFTER 1 MONTH OR LATER.
I buy games after a 6-12 months. With all DLC's and 33-50% price.
***** Im doing the stick to last gen until mid generation.
Dawid Freeman I know right, took it out for free at my library and beat it in that time a month after it came out...try a few months of bad press and fan backlash, the popular games keep their high price tags for years if they were success, but if they barely made what companies call "the success line" or did poorly they will drop in price fast, faster if poorly as ME: Andromeda No Man's Sky proved (bought this at 17 dollars at gamestop 2 months ago along with two other games, I saw the two mentioned poorly viewed games under 20 and in NMS case under 15 around the 4th month of their release i believe I remembered...likelt why they put so mich focus on release date sales like they think there a movie or something which makes sense with all this talk of comparing games to movies and too much emphasize on making them more movie like in taking control away from you, then gameplay "Making mor one-dimensional stories for games was a mistake" - "paulman34340: RUclipsr commenter").
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@@jakep1178 Yeah :-)
I just don't want to be a beta tester without my permision.
I know you're going on about how beautiful everything is, but I'm just mesmerised by that woman's hair in the left hand corner lmao 2:40 - 2:46
Other great fucking review, honestly the videos in the past month have been spot on, By the end of the year hopefully you can get to 100k. Anyway great work, keep up the sick reviews
Been playing for several hours. The game is clearly designed around multiple playthroughs. DO NOT QUICKSAVE AND DO NOT QUICKLOAD! this game is clearly meant to be played as you go. Like real life, do not expect a perfect playthrough.
12 hours is a ridiculously low estimate especially considering you said you tried to explore and do all the side quests. I'm at 25 hours in and I'm just finishing off mission 12 and from what I can tell I've still got a bit to go yet before completing it. That is with doing a lot of exploration/side quests and trying to read most of the the ebooks and pocket secretaries, hack all the safes and vaults e.t.c. A lot of the story is hidden in these things and you're missing out on a lot if you skip it.
That's not an estimate, it's how long my game time was in Steam when I'd finished it. I played it again in NG+ and it took a similar amount of time to finish as well.
Well then you rushed through it. Deus Ex games aren't designed to be rushed through, there's so much story and content hidden throughout the game and you have to go looking for it. This isn't new for the series. Obviously anyone can play the game the way they see fit but they will be missing out on a lot of the experience if they choose to rush through it. I just think it's unfair to call this a 12 hr game after saying you've explored as much as you could and done side missions when people who have actually done that are reporting 20hrs + at least.
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Deus Ex games are meant to be replayed over and over. I have since finished it 3 times. I got my money's worth. Also there is no right or wrong way to play Deus Ex games. I enjoyed the experience despite how short it was for me, so I don't know why you're so upset.
Deus Ex, based on the hours played, is one of the best Single Player Campaigns I ever bought. The hours of enjoyment I have gotten from this title can only be equaled by multi player titles like GTA5 or BF4. The Dead space games come close, but when I check at STEAM the single player game I have logged the most hours playing over the years is this one. I am in fact playing through the last two again as I type this. If money spend vs hours of enjoyment are used as a basis of judging a game … Deus Ex defiantly ranks as money well spent.
3:20 oh I love that little jab to No Man's Lie
This game.
I cant fucking wait to play it.
Human Revolution was a surprise game for me back in 2011.
And now an official sequel is here.
Just picked this up a few weeks back, I was expecting it to be 12 hours from this review but I beat it after a solid 37, and I doubt I've cleared all the content.
Nice review mate. One issue not raised is the boss fights, if there are any. My biggest issue with the previous game was speccing stealth then having a hard time with the bosses where stealth was irrelevant as most were just bullet sponges. Wondering if that is still the case?
There's 1 boss fight and there's a non lethal option.
Gggmanlives Cool and thanks for the reply man. Glad to hear they changed that aspect. PS Not sure if your a rugby fan but apologies in advance if we slaughter you tomorrow night. Hugs from NZ.
I've been playing it for 60 hours and I still haven't reached the end. How the hell did you play it in 20 hours ^^
How the hell did it take you 60 hours? What are you doing all the time?
Exploring and stuff. And I've been playing it full stealth/pacifist. That might be another reason.
Gonna wait for all content to be available, bugs and optimizations fixed great review.
How could you do it in 12 hour!? ...I'm taking it a bit slow but I'm at 25 hours and at about 3/4 of the game....
after watching about a dozen or so of your videos, I gotta say, you do damn a find job on these reviews. just wanted to let you know
de:hr was great, glad to hear there's no major concerns and performance is good at launch, will be picking it up shortly. don't mind it being short either.
Deus Ex is the one game that we should give a shit about the story.
And this game story was so meh :\
Well, to be honest no Deus Ex story was really ever something to write home about. The first game was mind blowing when it came out, but have you played it recently? Story wise, it doesn't hold up nearly as well. Human Revolution was probably the most decent, and even then I largely forgot most of the details. and I've played it three times.
To me, Deus Ex was more about world immersion, as oppose to story telling. The story just accompanied the whole immersion process as I dicked around.
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I did and for me it is much better then Human Revolution in story. It just had something about it
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Yea, the best thing about the story of the first game is not just what happen on the plot. But also the progression, how we always face a moral choice (even the meaningless) and how each conversation hold something. Even to small role NPCs. The way JC gave so many blows on both the NSF and the MJ12 operations was exiting. Meet the iluminati and they're ways of do things, Tong clan too. Even the start, who was Walton Simons.
Idk, Mankind Divided just lack all that for me. First off, the way they gave us choices on HR and it has no weigh on the new game is disappointing (Invisible War did an amazing job in that aspect). Also, we kind of know already the game.. Adam Know about the iluminati and how it work, the game is just a linear path with no moral choices, Adam still just a pawn and alienate him self, it's all about megan again.... and we know how it will end... Augs will be wipped out and the black plague will start.
sometimes a story isn't just about how simple it is but how it's told and deux ex human revolution did an outstanding job
i think invisible war gets too much hate. at least i had the choice of going lethal or stealth (unlike HR which gives more xp for stealth. didnt play MD but i assume the same), who to side with, etc. i also liked the funny engine physics in iw. it was hilarious tossing ragdolls around and smacking people in the face with the dragon sword or baton. also im not too big on prequels in general because like you said "we know how it will end." oh, adam's doing this and that? sorry, not gonna matter, because *cue the grey death from deus ex 1* all that hard work gone to waste.
I Love the part at 2:40 where you said the visuals looked great and the girl was over on the left side just twitching her neck left and right. I just Died!!!
I personally love the game so far. Of course it's not nearly as good as the original, but it's better than HR for me personally! Graphics are stunning too.
Thanks for seeing the forest for the trees, gggman!
12 hours? That sounds more like a speedrun to me. It took me 45 hours to complete the game and I missed some sidequests. :D
I beat the game on give me deus ex this morning and got the spokes in two wheels. And it only took me 15 hours. No I am serious. 15 hours on hard. with almost everything complete.
I think I was around the same, Steam said 12 hours but I know it didn't calculate it all properly.
It is not relevant to this video but i just wanted to say thank you Cgg. Thanks to your retro reviews i started playing old fps that use the doom engine and im having lots of fun. I cant believe i havent touched any of them until now. Just thank you, i thought all gaming went to shit and i almost stopped playing video games altogether until i started watching your channel. Keep the awesome work man.
I’m 78 hours in, I just love looking at things and exploring every Inch of this game lmaoo
I completed one playthrough with all side quests/exploring and clocked over 40 hours.
Good review :)
Just found about your site yesterday and been binge watching it since, could you do a top 20 or top 10 video of your favorite games? I know ether Doom or Fear is number one according to one of your comments but it would be a fun thing to watch.
'Mankind Divided' seems like a graphically upgraded 'Human Revolution'. As said the graphics are stunning compared to its predecessor though it shares also some of its annoyances like the overdose of cut scenes; the 3th person hiding mode and a misty story. A stealthy play through is advised but I prefer to shoot my way through the levels. This becomes somewhat of a problem in the end where you are supposed to bypass the police. I got also annoyed with the alarm set off in every hacking attempt so one has to upgrade augmentations in that area as well. I am not a real fan of the series though I enjoyed this one the most.
I need to get around to playing Human Revolution anyway so this game can sit at the back of the pile for now. Great review, it looks really cool.
I have enjoyed all the Deus Ex games I have played, even Invisible War. I think I prefer Human Revolution to Mankind Divided simply because of the hub worlds. Being able to explore China as well as Detroit was a blast, and watching these videos has me downloading Human Revolution again!
I disagree about the stealth part you can EASILY terminator your way run and gun style if you spec into health and defense
I'll be getting Human Revolution for the Wii U for like $15 on ebay soon, I've always wanted to play a Deus Ex game.
Human Revolution had a quick save too. I'm surprised you didn't mention all the bugs people complained about.
Because I didn't encounter any bugs.
Great review but how do you managed to finish it in 12 hours? I have already played 14 hours and not even close to the end. Mission 7 on main quest :)
My gaming is augmented.
If I have to recomend someone this games, I would say Human Revolution before Mankind Divided, not just for chronological reasons but I really enjoyed most the previous one. Even taking that in account mankind divided is a good game, I finished it in 35 hours doing lots of side missions but not all, and truly, the game was made with stealth in mind. You can blast your way trough it but is generally harder (really harder) and the combat sistem not fully satisfying (to me at least).
Hey ggman isn't there that mode where your in this training program and it looks weirdly cool? I saw another review before yours and they mentioned that how come you didn't bring that up too? Heard it was a good way to expand upon the game more
Great review as always, Sonny Jim
Sonny Jim how fast do you play games! Pumping out the reviews
Not gonna mention those microtransactions, huh?
who cares? they are non-intrusive
We should care. The fact that microtransactions, something that was once confined to shitty mobile games, are now in $60 AAA titles is beyond unacceptable. And what about the pre-order bonuses that you can only use once and for one save file? And locking augmentations behind day one DLC? Bull. Fucking. Shit.
nope, you've just lost control. I understand your frustration- the pre-order save file issue is... unsavory, but you are acting incredibly privileged. 60$ is a steal for most titles, need I remind you certain games that were only around 3 hours long went for 180$ back in the day? The gaming market has adjusted for inflation simply. Econ 101 really. You act as if publishers owe something, they really don't.
And I might add, praxis kits- along with credits seem to be extremely abundant in this game relatively to the last- as Ggman said. It seems perhaps it is an issue with the publisher rather then the developer. I think they put it in for the few people that want to spend money- that is all. nothing is required.
both the augmentations that are "behind a dlc wall" are useless lol.
"beyond unacceptable," no offense- that argument is insane.
+Rain Maker Even if they're non-intrusive, they shouldn't be in a 60 dollar AAA game. That's just too fucking greedy.
He is here to talk about the gameplay, if there are micro transactions then people will know. Does it suck? Yes. Can something be done about it? Yes, don't buy them. Then that will force publishers to make devs chop games up like Destiny and others, or another game price jump. They have to get paid, and the devs don't get to make the choices on the money. I don't understand why people don't get that, the devs don't get to control every aspect of their game. If the publisher says you gotta do this and the devs says no, then they will cancel the game.
That is just how business works. It sucks that games have come to this, but once publishers realized they could get away with it, they will continue to try and squeeze our wallets dry.
Hi. Big fan of your videos. I am curious about the rig you are running this in.
GTX 1080, i7, 16gb ram.
so, what next? a full remake of the original Deus Ex? that would be neat, however the old graphics of the original have their own charm
do you agree? how do you feel about the remake thing?
I really really really enjoyed both titles, looking forward when the next installment comes out.
I finished the main story and most of the side missions in about 38 hours. The original is still my favorite in the series, but this one beats IW and HR pretty handily.
Huh, 48 hours base game finished, and DLCs still waiting for me. Dunno, why did it take you only 12 hours.
Exploring and doing all things took 12 hours? damn dude, you are fast. i Have 35 hours played and i just arrived London oO
Hey Triple G I'd love to see your take on the Deus Ex Revision mod one day.
Loved the review!
Thanka for that review and #Shotsfired at NoMansSky lmao
I can see that you haven't experimented much with the game before reviewing. You were complaining that the experimental augments overheat your system, but very early on you can get a calibrator to remove the concept entirely. You said it's just a DE:HR clone with more augments, however, the environment, story and gunplay is way better, and isn't that what you expect with sequels?
The game ended just as it was getting good, that last mission shouldn't have been the last mission
Square Enix forced Eidos to cut the game in half :/
Not sure who Robert Page is. But the guy we see in the clip is Bob Page.
Are you trolling?
2:39 - 2:46
Look at the bottom left.
A person is constantly shaking his/her head, sending his/her ponytail flying around.
Do you always get pre-release access to new games? Nice work!
12 hours with all the side quests?No fuckin way
I have no idea how you beat the game and all side missions in 12 hours. I did everything I could and clocked in at over 20. And I'm no Deus Ex slouch either.
The new Deus Ex Mankind Divided is only 12 hrs? If so I'm waiting for a steep price drop. Human Revolution took me 20-25hrs and I ignored many of the side missions.
10hrs in on PC and fucking loving this game.
I’m sure someone brought this up but Vernon George Wells is Australian.
This game has the best and most complex side quest I have ever done, so go and play it right MEOW!
Can you do a review on The Turing Test?
Do you get more ammo in this game? HR limited your ammo to almost survival horror levels for seemingly no reason.
12 hours? Took me four hours just to unlock the new augments...guess I'm taking my time xD
meant to be played. I hope someday we get a Deus Ex with different possibilities to play, which rewards you nearly equally.
Nevermind. Gggmanlives, do you want to take a look at "They" ?
It tried new things with weapon costumization and failed at that.
Maybe it is worth a look
At 2:40, that woman on the left. Commonly referred to as the "Wololo" bug.
Rex "Power" Colt, still the most badass aug of all. Can melee a garrison full of dudes without recharging an itty bitty battery
Yeah, ive heard many average reviews like this, but i fuckin loved HR so ill be grabbing this one for sure.
only few issue I have with Human Revolution is the fact you have to wait several second in between knocking people out with melee since for some reason it drains your batteries which doesn't make a lick of sense, since your suppose to be a super human, and you're suppose to be able to punch people all day.
Another is how ridiculous the fall damage was. I mean did Adam got glass legs or something? How does falling 5 feet almost kill you?! Come on your supposed to be augmented a regular human can handle falling 5 feet but Adam can't?!
Yeah, fall damage is ridiculous. High battery drain is there, so you dont run around insta-killing dudes with x-ray vision on. Its the same way you pick up a gun, and there's like 3 bullets in it - balancing.
i guess the fall damage might be so ridiculous to make you spend those 2 praxis points on the aug so you can utilize high drops in missions or such shit but otherwise it really doesn't make sense as i can recall one time the aug helped me in a mission, and that was a side mission anyway. otherwise it just helps you save time while travelling
Mad_Scientist Icarus Landing is supposed to work on big or extreme hights for a human, so I think they could have balanced it a little better.
Great Review as always.
do you ever intend on reviewing the penumbra series?
Gggmanlives how where the boss fights (if any)? I remember Human Revolution also reward you for playing stealthy but the boss fights became a real pain if you took the stealth approach.
There's 1 boss fight and there's a (hidden) non lethal option.
No mention of the tacked-on challenge modes? Are they any good?
Love Ya Ggg but You got this one wrong imo...12 hours im calling Bullshit You said You did most sidequests and other content there is just no way all that could be fone in 12hrs
oh boy 3 am video from ggg man woo
Hey man! Have you ever done a Necrovision review?
If your still in a stealth mood, may I recommend you play Styx: Master of Shadows?
does this force you into those awkward boss fights? you know the ones where you have to gun them down with your full non lethal play through?
So far as I know there is one boss fight, with lethal and non lethal option.
Damn, those panoramic scenes look good.