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@@xuanquang9815 @ShadowofHawk I was thinking in more of a comedic way. They make plans and the other Cult somehow fuck it up unknowingly, and the people just live their lives.
The real question is, which is worse between the two? One is trying to summon the hive fleet which'll nom the planet into sterile rock, while the other wants to open a hole into hell and turn the place into a demon world.
I like the similarities between gene-stealer hybrids and Innsmouthers from Lovecraft's universe. There's something uniquely creepy about a human with characteristics of an alien monster like a deep one or a gene-stealer.
I always guessed the chaos cult gene stealers were a thing due to one of two theories. 1) Hive fleets not close enough which caused the cults a bit too much freedom in their choices. Something quickly stopped out when the Nids found out that chaos doesn't taste good. 2) the chaos gene stealer cults were the attempts to infect chaos, but the idea was disbanded when they realized the flaws with that plan.
Also, while infiltrating an Eldar Craftworld is ordinarily highly impractical, one of the Ynnari novels featured a Craftworld that voluntarily surrendered to the Genestealers in a desperate bid to save their souls from Slaanesh (this was before the development of soulstones, so I have no idea how that fits into the timeline, but it's a cool idea).
Better then the dark eldar who knowingly started implanting genestealer cultist mutations onto themselves as a fashion statement then getting obsessed with the tyranids Rakarth stole from real space to sell to wyches and haemonculii.
@@JohnSmith-tt3go well there is a novel where a nid broke in and ate there souls I'm not kidding so maybe getting eating by nod is somehow better than getting eaten by she who thirst
It is very nice to see Arch cover the Tyranid Genestealer cults. These kind of Warhammer videos that go over how new groups (like the Chaos/Genestealer cults) are created are very nice.
I recall some old lore (or maybe some lore discussion) that said Orks could be infected, but it was pointless since due to the orks connection to the waaagh!! Other orks would quickly sense something was off ("oi, dem boys ain't right!") And would quickly lead to the infected orks getting torn apart by the others.
That's still canon. Orks sense un-Orky behaviour, and even if they didn't, the sheer amount of casual violence in Ork society would probably exterminate the Cult in its nascent stages by pure accident.
yes that is the lore no idea where he gets his info from on this subject the infected orks are also perfectly capable of reproducing hybrids through their spores its just that slowly the implanted orks are outcompeted without the waaaagh energy on their side but they are able to set up tribes in large enough numbers to call the hive
The best part of Tyranid/Ork lore is the fact that even after being digested by the Tyranids and remade into new creatures (e.g. Squigs), as soon as those creatures meet back up with Orks again they immediately recognise their kin, totally abandon their Tyranid programming and just join back up with the Orks who are still fighting against the Tyranids. I've always found that little bit of lore to be completely adorable. :D
I believe it also had to do with their discolouration and since "GREEN IZ BEST" the Orks kill any none green Orks IMMEDIATELY Orks are too violent to each other and too well in sync with waaagh energy to be infected, infiltration will never work (unless you are a digga Nob apparently) so really the only way to deal with them is a straight up fight or decapitation attack (just how they like it)
I liked the way they where shown in one of the ciaphus cain books. The infected orks where severely hampered by their inability to infiltrate ork society so they where forced to live on the outskirts and scavenge and occasionally abduct an ork
In the 1989 Compendium they had army lists for both Genestealer Cults and Chaos Genestealer Cults. There was also a Harlequin army list as the last entry in that publication.
There was a later list for genestealer cults as well for 3rd/4th in one of the citadel journals. I never saw one made, unfortunately, but it looked a lot of fun and still had the up armoured limos
There was a mention of genestealers on Krieg ... according to the book, it was quickly discovered, dispatched, and the person who discovered it was also executed on the spot.
What about a remake of the dok video and maybe a whole video on diggs nobs and the mechanics that got mutated heavily and maybe a theory's on why the necrons there get all pissy at the ORKS when the humans are being attacked by them?
As a member of The Cult of the Pauper prince, I will say that we are not at all a sinister organization, and we deny all accusations of having things to do with Xenos. Furthermore, can we tell you some about our true lord and saviors the star children?
Agreed. Though the only lore for the Starchild cult I am aware of is in the original Rogue Trader and one of the Chaos books. I can't remember wether it was Slaves to Darkness or The Lost and The Dammed.
Whether he has two arms, three arms, four arms, it's all the same God-Emperor, am I right? Who cares about the petty details. We're all on the same team... (quietly pulls dagger)
I really want a management simulator where I grow a Genestealer Cult from the first Genestealer all the way to Revolution, that sounds like a ton of fun. Maybe an Xcom 2 style thing?
I've been waiting a very long time for this one! I really love the GSC - their alien hybrid aesthetic, their ramshackle yet effective forces relying on cunning over brawn, and the way they allow the Tyranids to have a kind of "humanity" that allows for more interesting storytelling without compromising the alien-ness of the Nids. It's so good!
16:58 your not imagining it. They actually do it in angels of death. Which despite being warhammer + nonsense, is actually pretty good. Definitely recommend, provided you find a… free, alternative.
Random thought. SIM Hive. You control the management and construction of a hive city not just in 2D like the SIM city series but also in the 3rd dimension. Then an expansion where you control a Genestealer Cult infiltrating and ultimately if you do it right, taking over the hive!
I've always wondered what would happen if a Patriarch somehow (likely through the interference of a rogue Magos Biologis or Fabulous Bill) got the part of itself that calls out to the greater Hive Mind removed. Given many Patriarchs and Purestrains actively flee from Hive Fleets, a Patriarch that no longer calls to them may well just become their own faction independent of the Tyranids. That would be interesting to see.
I believe they start to flee once they figure out what the hive fleet actually is and what will happen if they stay. Though I also recall lore that said the hivemind basicly controls them once it gets close enough at which point they cease beeing independent.
My favourite Cult is the Hivecult, a warrior cult that started when a bunch of Hive Gangsters thought that importing some very illegal and very expensive Genestealers off the black market would give them the edge in their endless gang wars. Let's just say that only a single Hive City on the planet is still holding out.
*Looks the video, looks the modern far left*... "Alright we are at 4th generation at this point, load up the bolters brother, its time to cleanse some cultists"
Imagine a city builder/RTS game based on the genestealers, or even something kenshi esque where you have to found your own genestealer cult and prepare the planet for the hive.
To be fair, it was actually official. It had been assumed that the brothel was drugging and robbing guardsmen, as when he went to retrieve several of his guardsmen from the local police, and they told him about losing their memory and their money. Course, Cain was "seeing" the head officer, so of course he offered to help.
!) Have influence in high level positions 2) Create mass hysteria based on cos play problem. 3) Have population inoculated with revolutionary cure to cos play problem. 4) profit. Gnomes are more insidious by one less step.
The fact that the 40k galaxy is so dark and depressing that certain populations would gladly decide to usurp imperial control in favor of fornicating with space bugs and setting the table for a hive fleet is a pretty damning example of the Imperium's philosophy of the individual suffers for the benefit of the species. Great video Arch. I can't wait to see your new stuff on the Baddab war.
If I remember, Orks can tell genestealer cults aren’t orks because they aren’t violent enough and they surprisingly do NOT grow bigger after fighting. So genestealer orks are always smaller then normal orks.
I was thinking about this today whenever I was mowing the lawn and it hit me the orcs have a hive mind, so an orc hybrid would not be connected to the same Waaagh energy This would basically mean that any orc hybrids would have the same effect as a blank. Am I thinking correctly? This was the comment that I posted up higher. It’s affectively the same thing that you’re saying good job and being smart too. 🙂
A major feature to me is how little information the imperium shares with low-level positions. Your average local sheriff probably doesn't know what a Tyranid is, nevermind how to recognize an early gene stealer cult generation looks like. They would probably assume it is some new form of mutant, kill it, and move on with the never-ending list of crimes they have to deal with. I would expect anything short of Arbites or Inquisitorial intervention would have a relatively slow response, and need a well fleshed out pattern of multiple gene stealers getting discovered to recognize that there is a larger threat to the planet.
For some reason, I’m now imagining genestealers arriving on a grox-farm agri-world, and trying to create an army from within the billions of grox roaming the planet. 😅
Since you brought up Tau there are actually two short stories involving Tau and GSCs. One of which is more telling. Basically the Tau infested GSC turn into a more Grey hue which is very telling. Tau don't have much in the way of mutations amongst the race. I believe there is one Sept World where the Tau born there have now a more greenish hue due to something with the sun but that's the exception that proves the rule. Etherals can't go "you've been infected by space bugs" but the mutation is just more apparent.
17:00 Cain encounters a massive room of hibernating Genestealers while lost in the Spawn of Damnation during the events of The Emperors Finest, so this is definitely something that occurs.
Arch, the (latest edition of) Space Hulk rule booklets mention some small tidbits about the Genestealer life cycle and mention hibernation, and I seem to remember Death Watch : Overkill also had some info about the Cults, Swarms and their life cycles.
You know what would be cool? An Only War campaign where you are the PDF working for an Inquisitor fighting a late-stage and highly entrenched Genestealer cult having to make do because he can't get literally any other help dealing with the bastards.
I thumbed through the latest genestealer codex and it seems to imply giving either gender this “kiss” to rewrite their genes to make sure their first born is a hybrid with a mental urge to have a child.
The Genestealer Hybernation comes from what i call the flatstealers in Space Hulk, the ones that had these weird shaped art/models. They stated Genestealers could hibernate due to being on empty hulks floating in the void.
14:50 I thought you'd rather mention Detroit or Chicago in regards to "imagine a Genestealer infestation" Defunding the Police sounds like a great way to weaken the local resistance and allow for more chaotic spread and recruitment, at least in short bursts.
A game where you have multiple factions on a planet competing for control would be great. You can start as the Imperium trying to keep gangs, Chaos Cultists, and GeneStealers from causing issues. On the other hand you could play as Chaos one of the 4 gods or undivided all with different play styles trying to open a warp gate. Or as a GeneStealer Cult infection trying to take over and signal the fleets of Tyranids. And lastly and most difficult a group of elites funding gangs and private armies to take over the planet and then succeed from the Imperium. This game would be so cool as it could just be against one on a small agri world or a massive industrial world where there is one of each for a 8 way war. The Imperium has local law enforcement and PDF, if it's a big enough world then add in some Guardsmen Regiments and a Arbites Garrison. If you are doing well enough with supplies for the Imperium then they send you more Regiments or even possibly some Sisters of Battle to help stop the rebellion if you hold on long enough.
disappointed that there isn't more pony lore, I truly feel that Arch found his calling with that one....also I never knew how fucked up the kiddy pony show was and I wanna learn more now,lmao.
Ah yes, Necromunda has at least one of them, which is surprising as that's an Imperial Fists recruitment world. 6:00 - Hive Fleet Kronos specialises in destroying chaos.
Yeah, you can really tell that ork-stealer hybrids stem from the 2e days, when orks actually did briefly shift from their standard sexually neuter form to a functioning male or female form to reproduce before reverting, rather than the modern lore, where orks are basically fungus-based biotech robot soldiers. And unlike the old lore of Chaos Orks and Mutant Orks, Ork-stealers really make no goddamned sense as something to bring forward.
17:00 I renember this bit of lore as well and im not that well read up on them. Maybe in one of the nid codexes? I checked the ones I have but I cant find it so maybe in some other source? Space hulk lore maybe? Space hulks tend to go through space for years at a time so it makes sense that they go into hibernation to awaken once something edible has entered the space hulk.
On the topic of Genestealer Hibernation- I seem to recall a certain spacehulk game using it- specifically, that the space wolves showed up and attempted to blitzkrieg'd the fuck out of a mostly sleeping genestealer swarm, rather then do what every other chapter who tried to board it did- Taking it slowly and all. Genestealer hibernation can be interrupted, but it seems to be a slow process to 'wake up'- since, how else would the genestealers survive on a space hulk for what seems like an indefinite time? Even tyranids need to use the biological fuels that humans do- Albeit due to certain choices, they aren't one to one. For example: Rippers cannot process what they eat, they do not have the on-board capability to do so. So it's theoretically possible to overfeed a ripper, and it being unable to consume any additional biomass. They do not turn off their psionic connection's either. If I recall- and that's not a very good citable source- They're psionic connection is what allows them to wake up from that hibernation- the hive basically tells them to wake up with their fancy dancy connection, so they do. And presumably, it's how they can react to things around them- Say, an angry viking wolf terminator walking into the living room, better start revving up the ol' engine! On the other topic- The spread. If I recall- Again, not a very citable source- The genestealer patriach- and perhaps all genestealers, have their "Genestealer kiss."-their inner mouth injector- That they can use to infect people, it's how they get their nice breeding stock as it rewrites the genetic code, so theoretically, a genestealer can infect a load of people, pull back, and see which of the people actually manages to establish the cult. Albeit at risk of someone in the know to check their genes- but a normal human initially infected doesn't look any different from any other human. It's only when you start having them breed that they produce the big red walking flags. It also means a genestealer can walk up to some random bloke, inject him, and let that bloke go on about his day, having been secretly turned- On the topic of the genestealer kiss- The genecults have if I recall correctly, learned how to take it out of papa Genestealer Patriach, so they no longer require a genestealer to be present when they inject new people.
On that topic- A male infected this way also produces new hybrids the old fashion way, same as the female persuasion- Even with an untained female or male. Though, I don't know if the untainted citizen would be so...Keen on that four armed baby coming out. Or if the act of...Producing the child would in fact also infect them. From what I recall of the genestealer hybrid gene plan, it's Step one: Produce fucked up hybrid. Step two: Produced slightly less fucked up hybrid Step there: Produce human-like, near undetectable human hybrid. Step four: Produce genestealer. Generationally, the hybrids get less fucked up [till y'know...] the further in the geneline they go, till they produce Real Proper Genestealers out of seemingly normal people. And further persumably, they don't want to rush to stage 4 genestealers because people tend to notice,
I think you’re thinking of the Ciaphas Cain book where they are on a space hulk and they encounter Orks and Jeanstealers He runs into a room full of them hibernating
You are right Gene Stealers can hibernate. I forget which book, but when Commisar Cain went on that Space Hulk with the Orks there was worry of hibernating Gene Stealers on board. Same book with Gene Stealer Orks
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I want a story with a Genestealer Cult and a Chaos Cult are trying to take over the same world unknowingly.
basically every hive city stories.
That is actually a Necromunda campaign I want to run. Three or four different cults are all trying to take over.
Ultimately its highlander. There can only be one. 😂
@@xuanquang9815 @ShadowofHawk
I was thinking in more of a comedic way. They make plans and the other Cult somehow fuck it up unknowingly, and the people just live their lives.
The real question is, which is worse between the two? One is trying to summon the hive fleet which'll nom the planet into sterile rock, while the other wants to open a hole into hell and turn the place into a demon world.
Man I was not expecting a lore video on the Templin Institute
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Best comment 😂
This is funny on like.. 19 different levels.
Just savage!
Literal subversives
Id like to see a shadow war of Genestealers against Alpha Legion forces on some hive world.
Whoever wins...we loose.
A Game of Shadows setting between the Inquisition, Alpha Legion, Genestealers, and Eldar would be awesome. Ripe for both tabletop and RPG-based fun.
The Hive Mind is Alpharius.
@@rogerbrownreacts8528 And then the Hive Fleets remember their hidden identity and drop their organic spaceship disguise.
*Insert Mexican standoff*
I like the similarities between gene-stealer hybrids and Innsmouthers from Lovecraft's universe. There's something uniquely creepy about a human with characteristics of an alien monster like a deep one or a gene-stealer.
Agreed. They're human but to quote Hank Hill "The boys not right!"
Xenomorph and Deep one hybrid
You can watch videos like this and think hmm " just because humans can fuck with genetics doesn't mean we should"
The Innsmouthers definitely get a better deal.
Check out Alfabusa’s Shadow over Immaterium
I always guessed the chaos cult gene stealers were a thing due to one of two theories.
1) Hive fleets not close enough which caused the cults a bit too much freedom in their choices. Something quickly stopped out when the Nids found out that chaos doesn't taste good.
2) the chaos gene stealer cults were the attempts to infect chaos, but the idea was disbanded when they realized the flaws with that plan.
It's mentioned in lore that some Cults emerge too far from a Hive Fleet and thus end up surviving as independent miniature Empires
trying to infest nergals garden only for him to pull a reversal card
Also, while infiltrating an Eldar Craftworld is ordinarily highly impractical, one of the Ynnari novels featured a Craftworld that voluntarily surrendered to the Genestealers in a desperate bid to save their souls from Slaanesh (this was before the development of soulstones, so I have no idea how that fits into the timeline, but it's a cool idea).
How could the Eldar even know about Genestealers, or their full plans?
Maybe they thought that if they died under the shadow in the warp then slaanesh couldn't nom their souls
Better then the dark eldar who knowingly started implanting genestealer cultist mutations onto themselves as a fashion statement then getting obsessed with the tyranids Rakarth stole from real space to sell to wyches and haemonculii.
@@yochaiwyss3843 Well, they were infected, and I believe they were trying to be protected by becoming part of the (localised Genestealer) Hive Mind.
@@JohnSmith-tt3go well there is a novel where a nid broke in and ate there souls I'm not kidding so maybe getting eating by nod is somehow better than getting eaten by she who thirst
It is very nice to see Arch cover the Tyranid Genestealer cults.
These kind of Warhammer videos that go over how new groups (like the Chaos/Genestealer cults) are created are very nice.
I recall some old lore (or maybe some lore discussion) that said Orks could be infected, but it was pointless since due to the orks connection to the waaagh!! Other orks would quickly sense something was off ("oi, dem boys ain't right!") And would quickly lead to the infected orks getting torn apart by the others.
That's still canon. Orks sense un-Orky behaviour, and even if they didn't, the sheer amount of casual violence in Ork society would probably exterminate the Cult in its nascent stages by pure accident.
yes that is the lore
no idea where he gets his info from on this subject
the infected orks are also perfectly capable of reproducing hybrids through their spores
its just that slowly the implanted orks are outcompeted without the waaaagh energy on their side
but they are able to set up tribes in large enough numbers to call the hive
The best part of Tyranid/Ork lore is the fact that even after being digested by the Tyranids and remade into new creatures (e.g. Squigs), as soon as those creatures meet back up with Orks again they immediately recognise their kin, totally abandon their Tyranid programming and just join back up with the Orks who are still fighting against the Tyranids. I've always found that little bit of lore to be completely adorable. :D
I believe it also had to do with their discolouration and since "GREEN IZ BEST" the Orks kill any none green Orks IMMEDIATELY
Orks are too violent to each other and too well in sync with waaagh energy to be infected, infiltration will never work (unless you are a digga Nob apparently) so really the only way to deal with them is a straight up fight or decapitation attack (just how they like it)
I liked the way they where shown in one of the ciaphus cain books. The infected orks where severely hampered by their inability to infiltrate ork society so they where forced to live on the outskirts and scavenge and occasionally abduct an ork
In the 1989 Compendium they had army lists for both Genestealer Cults and Chaos Genestealer Cults. There was also a Harlequin army list as the last entry in that publication.
I liked the idea of a demon prince that was created by the despair of GSCs released from their mind control while tyranids where consuming the planet
There was a later list for genestealer cults as well for 3rd/4th in one of the citadel journals. I never saw one made, unfortunately, but it looked a lot of fun and still had the up armoured limos
There was a mention of genestealers on Krieg ... according to the book, it was quickly discovered, dispatched, and the person who discovered it was also executed on the spot.
Sure thats not the ‘down amongst the dead men’ short story? That’s basically the entire plot but it was on krieg haha
@@markcoroneos7811 Did it involve a "reject" being used in a military exercise, setting up an ambush ?
@@ricks5756 yep, thats the one haha he wasn’t “executed”, he was shot when sighted by the opposition.
And your reward is….
BANG 😂😂😂
Oh yes! I have been wanting this video for a long time.
Now we just need: "Ork Mekboys" "The Warboar" and of course "The HUNG Barbarians!"
What about a remake of the dok video and maybe a whole video on diggs nobs and the mechanics that got mutated heavily and maybe a theory's on why the necrons there get all pissy at the ORKS when the humans are being attacked by them?
It’s all jokes until the girl your friend is simping for has four arms and is growing spines on her head…
Oh you´re just a Tyranophobe ;)
Someone's into that 😏😏
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As a member of The Cult of the Pauper prince, I will say that we are not at all a sinister organization, and we deny all accusations of having things to do with Xenos.
Furthermore, can we tell you some about our true lord and saviors the star children?
Agreed. Though the only lore for the Starchild cult I am aware of is in the original Rogue Trader and one of the Chaos books. I can't remember wether it was Slaves to Darkness or The Lost and The Dammed.
Whether he has two arms, three arms, four arms, it's all the same God-Emperor, am I right? Who cares about the petty details. We're all on the same team... (quietly pulls dagger)
"Star Child"
The cult are fans of Paul Stanley and Kiss I see 🤘
How interesting now please face the wall
@@casbyness**pulls out bolt pistol** SILENCE **distant shots can be heard**
I really want a management simulator where I grow a Genestealer Cult from the first Genestealer all the way to Revolution, that sounds like a ton of fun. Maybe an Xcom 2 style thing?
Starts small squad based and slowly scales towards the revolutions pitched battles. All the while you have to keep under the radar.
God such a good idea
An exposure meter that once full sees a space marine chapter showing up
@@cypher4783 Better yet, exterminatus protocols
Maybe a 40K version of Plague Inc?
I would love to see an investigation game like LA Noire following a low ranked Inquisitor trying to uncover a genestealer cult.
So basically, “Shadow Over Immaterium: The Game” ? :D
End Tyransphobia now! DEI (Digestibility, Edibility and Ingestion) is the future! A high ESG (Edible Space Guys) score is a must.
I've been waiting a very long time for this one! I really love the GSC - their alien hybrid aesthetic, their ramshackle yet effective forces relying on cunning over brawn, and the way they allow the Tyranids to have a kind of "humanity" that allows for more interesting storytelling without compromising the alien-ness of the Nids. It's so good!
Genestealers are the only part of the Tyranids I really like. Love it when they get covered.
You must be a chaos fan. I can sense it.
16:58 your not imagining it. They actually do it in angels of death. Which despite being warhammer + nonsense, is actually pretty good. Definitely recommend, provided you find a… free, alternative.
So genestealers are basically our futuristic soyjaks infiltrating hobbies
UnIronically the woke left does operate like genestealer cults
Correct.
That´s Tyranophobia ;)
Gene stealers get laid though
And cia.
Random thought. SIM Hive. You control the management and construction of a hive city not just in 2D like the SIM city series but also in the 3rd dimension. Then an expansion where you control a Genestealer Cult infiltrating and ultimately if you do it right, taking over the hive!
"Join Our Cult! Free Buffet for all who join!"
If they do a 40k film this would be a great place to start. A genestealer cult inserection would make a fantastic horror film.
How are people called who discover the ploy? Conspiracy theorists? Or maybe Antiparasites?
Tyransphobic.
I've always wondered what would happen if a Patriarch somehow (likely through the interference of a rogue Magos Biologis or Fabulous Bill) got the part of itself that calls out to the greater Hive Mind removed. Given many Patriarchs and Purestrains actively flee from Hive Fleets, a Patriarch that no longer calls to them may well just become their own faction independent of the Tyranids. That would be interesting to see.
I believe they start to flee once they figure out what the hive fleet actually is and what will happen if they stay. Though I also recall lore that said the hivemind basicly controls them once it gets close enough at which point they cease beeing independent.
I’m imagining the most infectious hybrid, Tyranid Chaos Ork war boss demon hivemind!
My favourite Cult is the Hivecult, a warrior cult that started when a bunch of Hive Gangsters thought that importing some very illegal and very expensive Genestealers off the black market would give them the edge in their endless gang wars. Let's just say that only a single Hive City on the planet is still holding out.
*Looks the video, looks the modern far left*... "Alright we are at 4th generation at this point, load up the bolters brother, its time to cleanse some cultists"
What an idiot you are
Too fucking right
Imagine a city builder/RTS game based on the genestealers, or even something kenshi esque where you have to found your own genestealer cult and prepare the planet for the hive.
The gene stealers would be a horrifying enough of a foe to contend with on their own, let alone adding on the hive fleet that follows an infestation.
Least subversive Warhammer "fan" turist:
Nice video Arch. It is almost tempting for my Necromunda campaigns to decorate my vehicles in the skulls of genstealers.
Why am I not surprised Arch succeeded in making a 2 page explanation into a 50-minute video about logistics? 😂 Never change Arch. Never change
I like the story where Ciaphas Cain goes to the brothel on "official business" and gets right in the middle of the genestealer Cult.
To be fair, it was actually official. It had been assumed that the brothel was drugging and robbing guardsmen, as when he went to retrieve several of his guardsmen from the local police, and they told him about losing their memory and their money. Course, Cain was "seeing" the head officer, so of course he offered to help.
Genestealer cults, the Warhammer 40k response to 'fuck your way up the ladder'
4:39, Hive-WAAAGH!! The Ultimate material nightmare of 40k.
Genestealer cults:
"From the soup we came, and now to the soup we return."
“Mass snackicide” lmao I’m stealing that
I imagine a Genestealer infestation would be much like the Xenomorph infestation
Genestealer's don't kill their host. Xenemorph's aren't particularly intelligent.
Ah yes, Jeanstealers, the number 1 fear of anybody who refuses to give up cowboy or early 90's attire
I can now picture the Genestealer cults dressed up like the mob with those armored limos
IT’S TIME TO HUNT GENESTEALER!!! *massive applause!!*
PURGE THE ALIEN THE UNCLEAN THE HERETIC!!!
!) Have influence in high level positions
2) Create mass hysteria based on cos play problem.
3) Have population inoculated with revolutionary cure to cos play problem.
4) profit.
Gnomes are more insidious by one less step.
The fact that the 40k galaxy is so dark and depressing that certain populations would gladly decide to usurp imperial control in favor of fornicating with space bugs and setting the table for a hive fleet is a pretty damning example of the Imperium's philosophy of the individual suffers for the benefit of the species. Great video Arch. I can't wait to see your new stuff on the Baddab war.
Every time I'm turning on your videos I say "grrrrreatings and salutations" to my monitor, lol.
Every time my wife hears it she yells "grrrrreeeeetings and salutations arch!"
I really love the old Genestealer Cult vehicles. So crazy but visually class. Those were the days.
Hi Arch! This is the reason I love your videos ❤ long form, with lots of logistics 😅😅😅
Yesss! Another How To series, quickly becoming a favourite of mine!
I was very amused by seeing this on my subscription tab next to a lotus eaters video, seemed appropriate.
Arch the hibernation part is from the Night Lords Trilogy where they face very frozen Genestealers and some Salamander Terminators.
17:00 I've read several instances in Ciaphas Cain novels about genestealers hives going in hibernation, so yes.
I've been waiting a long time for this video, ever since you did the chaos cults one!
“Mass snackicide” my new favorite term.
If I remember, Orks can tell genestealer cults aren’t orks because they aren’t violent enough and they surprisingly do NOT grow bigger after fighting. So genestealer orks are always smaller then normal orks.
I was thinking about this today whenever I was mowing the lawn and it hit me the orcs have a hive mind, so an orc hybrid would not be connected to the same Waaagh energy This would basically mean that any orc hybrids would have the same effect as a blank. Am I thinking correctly? This was the comment that I posted up higher. It’s affectively the same thing that you’re saying good job and being smart too. 🙂
A major feature to me is how little information the imperium shares with low-level positions. Your average local sheriff probably doesn't know what a Tyranid is, nevermind how to recognize an early gene stealer cult generation looks like. They would probably assume it is some new form of mutant, kill it, and move on with the never-ending list of crimes they have to deal with. I would expect anything short of Arbites or Inquisitorial intervention would have a relatively slow response, and need a well fleshed out pattern of multiple gene stealers getting discovered to recognize that there is a larger threat to the planet.
„Snackercide“ - good one!
Thx for the video, always a pleasure listening to you!
For some reason, I’m now imagining genestealers arriving on a grox-farm agri-world, and trying to create an army from within the billions of grox roaming the planet. 😅
Since you brought up Tau there are actually two short stories involving Tau and GSCs. One of which is more telling. Basically the Tau infested GSC turn into a more Grey hue which is very telling. Tau don't have much in the way of mutations amongst the race. I believe there is one Sept World where the Tau born there have now a more greenish hue due to something with the sun but that's the exception that proves the rule.
Etherals can't go "you've been infected by space bugs" but the mutation is just more apparent.
Friday. An almost hour long video from Arch. Its actually raining outside. Oh, the Emperor protects.
I would say hive world would be really easy to hunt. You’re just going to be hunting for giant rats and people and mutants.
17:00 Cain encounters a massive room of hibernating Genestealers while lost in the Spawn of Damnation during the events of The Emperors Finest, so this is definitely something that occurs.
Arch, the (latest edition of) Space Hulk rule booklets mention some small tidbits about the Genestealer life cycle and mention hibernation, and I seem to remember Death Watch : Overkill also had some info about the Cults, Swarms and their life cycles.
My favorite conversational topic to begin this weekend
You know what would be cool? An Only War campaign where you are the PDF working for an Inquisitor fighting a late-stage and highly entrenched Genestealer cult having to make do because he can't get literally any other help dealing with the bastards.
I thumbed through the latest genestealer codex and it seems to imply giving either gender this “kiss” to rewrite their genes to make sure their first born is a hybrid with a mental urge to have a child.
I stand open to correction but the order of games release was Space Crusade, Advanced Space Crusade then Space Hulk and it's expansion Deathwing
It would be cool to have a game where you play as a cult infiltrating a world with a lot of logistical elements.
You have wonderful flat for sarcasm. I absolutely love it.
The Genestealer Hybernation comes from what i call the flatstealers in Space Hulk, the ones that had these weird shaped art/models. They stated Genestealers could hibernate due to being on empty hulks floating in the void.
14:50 I thought you'd rather mention Detroit or Chicago in regards to "imagine a Genestealer infestation"
Defunding the Police sounds like a great way to weaken the local resistance and allow for more chaotic spread and recruitment, at least in short bursts.
Tyranids engaging in a Long March through the institutions is *chef's kiss*
A game where you have multiple factions on a planet competing for control would be great. You can start as the Imperium trying to keep gangs, Chaos Cultists, and GeneStealers from causing issues. On the other hand you could play as Chaos one of the 4 gods or undivided all with different play styles trying to open a warp gate. Or as a GeneStealer Cult infection trying to take over and signal the fleets of Tyranids. And lastly and most difficult a group of elites funding gangs and private armies to take over the planet and then succeed from the Imperium. This game would be so cool as it could just be against one on a small agri world or a massive industrial world where there is one of each for a 8 way war. The Imperium has local law enforcement and PDF, if it's a big enough world then add in some Guardsmen Regiments and a Arbites Garrison. If you are doing well enough with supplies for the Imperium then they send you more Regiments or even possibly some Sisters of Battle to help stop the rebellion if you hold on long enough.
There is a Ciaphas Cain novel, the seventh I think with the Reclaimers, that features genestealers infiltrating a warband of orks on a space hulk.
This feels like it should have it's own version of Orcposting.
Inquisitor Duke Nukem is the most experienced in rooting out Genestealer Cults before they can even begin
"No one steals our chicks, and lives."
disappointed that there isn't more pony lore, I truly feel that Arch found his calling with that one....also I never knew how fucked up the kiddy pony show was and I wanna learn more now,lmao.
The proper phrase is "birthing bodies." Tears of the Emperor Arch!
Hope you keep making video about the genestealer cults, pretty awesome as always :D
Ah yes, Necromunda has at least one of them, which is surprising as that's an Imperial Fists recruitment world.
6:00 - Hive Fleet Kronos specialises in destroying chaos.
Yeah, you can really tell that ork-stealer hybrids stem from the 2e days, when orks actually did briefly shift from their standard sexually neuter form to a functioning male or female form to reproduce before reverting, rather than the modern lore, where orks are basically fungus-based biotech robot soldiers. And unlike the old lore of Chaos Orks and Mutant Orks, Ork-stealers really make no goddamned sense as something to bring forward.
For a long time I thought gene stealers were dude who stole the gene seeds of spacemarienes
Hey arch, did you see the video on tyranids using David Attenborough?
17:00 I renember this bit of lore as well and im not that well read up on them. Maybe in one of the nid codexes? I checked the ones I have but I cant find it so maybe in some other source? Space hulk lore maybe? Space hulks tend to go through space for years at a time so it makes sense that they go into hibernation to awaken once something edible has entered the space hulk.
Nom nom's lore. Lovely
They just want to give you a kiss
Scenes from Rocko's modern life comes to mind
Genestealer hibernation was mentioned in the Space Hulk 2014 Mission and Story book
Everyone be ride or die for the imperium until a busty bald mommy swipes right for you
If you notice a significant rise in the theft of jeans please notice the local inquisitor !
I found this just in time. I'm reworking final testament to be a genesteeler uprising for my next only war campaign.
That'd be such a shitty end to a Genestealer cult.
Day 3: You're out of fresh water.
Day 4; Everybody dies of dysentery.
Mission Failed.
On the topic of Genestealer Hibernation- I seem to recall a certain spacehulk game using it- specifically, that the space wolves showed up and attempted to blitzkrieg'd the fuck out of a mostly sleeping genestealer swarm, rather then do what every other chapter who tried to board it did- Taking it slowly and all.
Genestealer hibernation can be interrupted, but it seems to be a slow process to 'wake up'- since, how else would the genestealers survive on a space hulk for what seems like an indefinite time? Even tyranids need to use the biological fuels that humans do- Albeit due to certain choices, they aren't one to one.
For example: Rippers cannot process what they eat, they do not have the on-board capability to do so. So it's theoretically possible to overfeed a ripper, and it being unable to consume any additional biomass.
They do not turn off their psionic connection's either. If I recall- and that's not a very good citable source- They're psionic connection is what allows them to wake up from that hibernation- the hive basically tells them to wake up with their fancy dancy connection, so they do.
And presumably, it's how they can react to things around them- Say, an angry viking wolf terminator walking into the living room, better start revving up the ol' engine!
On the other topic- The spread. If I recall- Again, not a very citable source- The genestealer patriach- and perhaps all genestealers, have their "Genestealer kiss."-their inner mouth injector- That they can use to infect people, it's how they get their nice breeding stock as it rewrites the genetic code, so theoretically, a genestealer can infect a load of people, pull back, and see which of the people actually manages to establish the cult. Albeit at risk of someone in the know to check their genes- but a normal human initially infected doesn't look any different from any other human. It's only when you start having them breed that they produce the big red walking flags.
It also means a genestealer can walk up to some random bloke, inject him, and let that bloke go on about his day, having been secretly turned-
On the topic of the genestealer kiss- The genecults have if I recall correctly, learned how to take it out of papa Genestealer Patriach, so they no longer require a genestealer to be present when they inject new people.
On that topic- A male infected this way also produces new hybrids the old fashion way, same as the female persuasion- Even with an untained female or male.
Though, I don't know if the untainted citizen would be so...Keen on that four armed baby coming out. Or if the act of...Producing the child would in fact also infect them.
From what I recall of the genestealer hybrid gene plan, it's
Step one: Produce fucked up hybrid.
Step two: Produced slightly less fucked up hybrid
Step there: Produce human-like, near undetectable human hybrid.
Step four: Produce genestealer.
Generationally, the hybrids get less fucked up [till y'know...] the further in the geneline they go, till they produce Real Proper Genestealers out of seemingly normal people.
And further persumably, they don't want to rush to stage 4 genestealers because people tend to notice,
I think you’re thinking of the Ciaphas Cain book where they are on a space hulk and they encounter Orks and Jeanstealers
He runs into a room full of them hibernating
I still believe they should have kept the genesthealers and Tyranids separated... sthealers are good enough to stand tall in their own...
Ah yes....I need a refreshing on one of my most favorite xenos.
Genestealers would fit nicely into San Francisco or Portland. No one would notice a thing amongst the chaos there
Would Love To Hear That Chaos Infiltration Mental Experiment
You'd think an extragalactic alien supermind could adapt its minions some hair or something.
I've met a Genestealer hybrid irl before. Gross creature.
You are right Gene Stealers can hibernate. I forget which book, but when Commisar Cain went on that Space Hulk with the Orks there was worry of hibernating Gene Stealers on board. Same book with Gene Stealer Orks