As a former Crayola employee, it's a long standing tradition dating all the way back to the battle of Below wood when we got a letter from frontline combatants requesting extra rations.
I mean, I think that’s the edge the USMC has over the Army. Marines do have all around higher standards for enlisting. Based on experience, the Army is the melting pot of people that couldn’t get into the other branches haha
You didn't mention my favorite Genestealer Cult story: They've reached the Tau. When a Tau Fire Caste met one of the 'children' it was a tentacle faced little bastard and he essentially went "Oh Ethereals. THIS is why the fucking Imperium is the way it is. Oh fuck they have a point, oh no."
@Noob7Zilla There's a surprising amount of that going around, mainly because the Tau Empire is being written out of their 'we know nothing, it'll be fine!' phase and into the 'The Ethereals say not to tell anyone, but things are fethed!' phase.
Am I the only one who can see a scenario where an inquisitor hears a planetary governor talk about a bunch of genestealers and orders an immediate exterminatus. But then it turns out he was just complaining that, due to an intense, unpredicted geothermal freeze there was a resource shortage and some factory workers began stealing each other’s pants to stave off frost bite and it just became locally known as the “uprising of Jean stealers.”
it would be an even MORE dumb coincidence if the Inquisitor speaks more refined *High* Gothic and the PG speaks in a Local veriant of *Low* Gothic, so its just a phonetic coincidence. Death by pun. P.S. Considering that the Inquisition is the secret/thought police, wouldn't it make sense for there to be an Ordo dedicated to monitoring and editing the "Canon"/*Legal* language of the species? It would be VERY Orwellian.
@@orraklbenedict1832 you ever seen Lutien’s video on why there isn’t any invention in 40k He brings up the quote from 1984 on language and he says basically low gothic does that on its own
@@orraklbenedict1832 I think there is an actual Ordo but not a major one, that records the local language and language variants of a sector. Not sure about this though, I might just be wrong or have mistaken this for something else.
Genestealers don't work on Orks because the orks heard someone say "Genestealer" and they immediately responded "Sounds like a humie problem, we don't wearz jeans!" And that was the end of the Ork jeanstealer problem.
redemption corps disagrees sure a genestork will be less agressive but its aggressive enough to use its 4 arms and exoskeleton to beat the crap out of any ork that tries to bully it and in winning the fight it still grows bigger if one of them survives a year they usually take over the local clans orks are far from immune
@@ashardalondragnipurake DAS A GUD ONE 'UMIE. DA JEANORK IZ BASICULY A GROT. FIRST GERASHUN IS ALMOST AS WEAK AS A HUMIE AND DONT LOOK ORKY. EVUN THE DUMEST GIT WILL KNOW T'KRUMP ONE O DEM "BOYZ". IN ADSHUN THOS GITZ ALWAYS RUNNIN ROUND TRYIN T KISS U LIOK A HUMIE. IF THEYZE SO GREAT OW THEY GONNA MAKE MOR JENERASHUNS WHEN ORKS DONT RE'PRODUCE LIOK SUN WEAK UMIE? I BET DEM BUG BOYZ DONT EVEN GET BIGGER AFTER KRUMPIN DEY SO WEAK.
@@AltoStratusX1 genestealers dont need human reproduction to work an implanted ork reproduces like any other ork and its spawn will be hybrids just like you can never get rid of orks once they land on a planet once an ork gets implanted the ork population will never stop having genestealers among them calling them weak is also... inaccurate yea their muscle mass is slightly lower then a pure ork, but their speed and reaction time is fast even for a marine they might not krump ya in one punch but they will krump ya after the 15th and those 15 will land as fast as one from a regular ork and while the bugs dont get bigger after krumpin, a hybrid is a hybrid its an ork with genestealer benefits, not a genestealer they do grow from krupin tings
I'm going to be that guy and point out you can identify physically if someone has been infected. In one of the Ciaphas Kain books, he is able to identify a sort of flesh bundle thing in the chest of a dead infected marine. Also in the the devastation of baal a Blood Angels Apothecary is able to identify a civilian who is infected before calmly explaining to the man what is going to happen, giving him a few moments to collect his thoughts and then quickly snapping his neck.
@@liamnade9099 it was it was supposed to be a sign of the Primaris Guilliman bought with him being more compassionate, the apothecary even let the guy say goodbye to his son first.
After the questionnaire at the beginning of this episode I feel it’s time to bring up a complaint of mine. Despite the fact that both shy and bricky have had multiple episodes on their preferred factions, dk and his thousand sons have not received one even though that would be a great opportunity to create a series of episodes leading into the chaos god tzench. So it is in response to this unfairness to dk that I must request that the next marine video be on the space wolves.
I love the story about the Genestealer Cult that took over an Eldar Craftworld, and the Cult's Patriarch became the Avatar of Khaine; resulting in a being referred to as the Patriarch of Khaine that was a weird fusion of Genestealer and Eldar God.
Shame we haven't got that on the table top. Genestealer cults being able to have portions of other armies like Eldar or Tau and getting some unique units for when they do (like the patriarch of Kaine) would be cool as heck.
@@AAhmou if it's anything like brood brothers for guard, theyd have a severely restricting list of things they can take. Some basic officers, basic infantry, basic armor, no characters, etc; and theyd probably loose their specific craftworld bonus just like brood brothers. So a limited list of vanilla Eldar with few or no characters. Strong yes but not game breaking.
20:40 To this question about Gen 1. Remember. Geene Stealers have Hypnosis. The very moment that thing comes out it will instantly uses it to implent the idea into the parents head that "It is the most beautiful baby there is and you need to protect it" and from that point on the Cult starts to grow.
This is curious because if the genestealer have this power doesn't this mean that the tyranids also have and if the hive mind really wanted he could implement this in all of the tyranids bio-forms to make a invasion more easily
Sure you can say it hypnotizes the parents, but is it going to hypnotize everyone in the hospital too? The doctors and visiting family? And if baby genestealers have hypnosis strong enough to brainwash whole groups, wouldn’t adults be even stronger? From things like Ciaphas Cain and Space Hulk, it doesn’t seem like it. That’s why I think it would make more sense for the first generation to look human. Otherwise we have to assume the first gen are all born in caves and abandoned mine shafts.
@@richardduska1558 I mean, it probably does? Lots of planets and cities in the Imperium seem similar to modern ones. (See Ciaphas Cain, the third Gaunts Ghost book, and the Infinite and the Divine.) Even on a primitive medieval world were women give birth in huts or castles, other people are probably around when it happens. Even on planets were the low class workers are basically slaves, if the workers are allowed to have families there’s probably either a basic medical facility or some hovel shared by a dozen families were births typically happen in front of others.
The cult's existence might be a sign that the Tyranids are not just driven by hunger. The connection the cult members have to the Tyranid hive mind made them and the people they affected worship the Tyranids as a god but then, once they arrived to feed, the Tyranids first cut said connection off, making the people they affected see, with clarity, the monstrosity they had worshipped as a god and beckoned to come for their salvation... And only THEN did the Tyranids started eating. If the Tyranids are just driven by hunger for biomass, the result of the Tyranids' infestation should be similar to a zombie outbreak but instead it's more like DOOM's hell cult which suggests that the Tyranids are actively malicious, as malicious as, if not more so, than Chaos.
Or they are just a smart Hive Mind seeing the efficiency in both subterfuge and cutting of the quite dangerous Immaterium from those not yet corrupted.
@@requiemlul3140 That's what I wrote, the cults' existence implies that the Tyranids are not mindlessly hungry, they're intelligent, sapient, malicious AND hungry. If they're just driven by ravenous hunger that overrides all thoughts, these cults wouldn't exist, there would instead be 40k's equivalent of Dead Space's Black Markers and Necromorphs instead (which would also be interesting).
@@requiemlul3140 Their actions imply malicious intent too. As I wrote, the Tyranids cut off the connection to the people the affected when they arrived to eat them instead of letting them die blissfully ignorant of the truth of their actions. That implies maliciousness on their part.
It is how one best works Tzeentch's will against Nurgle in the great game. Wash the unclean! Let the soap flow! Hand sanitizer for everyone! Brush and scrub, until it's done! Make. Them. Floss! (And don't forget the mouthwash for that minty breath and extra protection!) White smiles for everyone! WASH THE UNCLEAN!
To clean Nurglite models is to become a true changer of ways. With the rot and filth of stagnation gone, lesser minds will think the taint of Chaos is gone from these wretches, but no! Now these tiny plastic mans, their very essence altered, have become Tzeentch's hidden pawns in the great game. The game of Weirding Everyone The Fuck Out.
Genestealer Cults are not a new army, we had them in second edition, then GW ignored them for 30 years but for some reason didn't squat them, and now they're back for 'reasons'.
@@lazerhosen In 1st Ed and 2nd Ed too you had much bigger gaps in the model range than these days as GW expected you to proxy, convert, and do whatever to fill those gaps so you can't judge faction-ness like that. They also totally had a full section in the 2nd Ed Tyranid book so they hung around longer than just being a relic from Rogue Trader. They only disappeared in 3rd when most of the fun and character of the setting was also being ironed out so all the things could be much more grey and brown as was the style of the time.
Fun fact: considering that, while incredibly rare, it's not unheard of for Genestealer Cults to fall to Chaos (the Cult Tenebrous for example which worships Nurgle). This, combined with the fact that other races have been infected by Genestealers before means that there is a tiny but non-zero chance for there to be a *Tau-based Genestealer Cult that worships Slaanesh.* You now have triple the waifu in one bundle.
Something seldom mentioned is that the tyranids don't just discard the genetic coding for the specific genestealer cultists. Some of them are recreated within future cults, popping up all across the galaxy. The kelermorph is the most notable example.
There are actually cases of genestealers which at least attempted to infiltrate into T'au culture. For that I recommend short novel 'Greater Evil' by Peter Fehervari. Really good read. After that you can read his entire 'Dark Coil' cycle.
Yeah, T'au Genestealer Cults do happen, but they usually aren't very successful given that T'au reproduce using government arranged breeding programs, and the Etherals keep a close eye on what their citizenry are doing, so when alarming number of people drop off the grid to join a weird cult, it raises lots of red flags and a thorough investigation, not giving the cult the time it needs to actually get off the ground. The only notable time the T'au had major difficulties was when they thought they could start up a controlled colony of Genestealers for research purposes, with some very predictable results.
Oh yeah they should talk about the time the tau found genstealers and some earth cast guy was like let's see what happen if we infect a tau. And then after sometime the planet turned silent and they discovered in the research labs a ongoing bloody "civil war" with weird mutants. So the eternals quarantine the planet and Send the fire cast in which spend 10 years cleaning the mess and even that it was even longer quarantined 🤣
I love the "spreading" methods of the stealers. There is one that just has so extremely efficient and obedient workers and soldiers that they export them to other systems to spread XD
I want to see a book about imperials cleaning out a cult they think is Genestealer because of all the Star talk. And then a C’TAN BUSTS THROUGH THE FLOOR AND STARTS THROWING LIGHTNING BOLTS
I love jokes about the USMC. M.A.R.I.N.E - Muscles Are Required, Intelligence Not Essential What do you call a Marine with an IQ of 70? General. How do you kill a Marine? Throw a shovel full of sand against a wall and tell him to hit the beach! How do you spot a Marine on an Air Force base? He's the one throwing bread to the helicopters
I had an idea of GSC called "The Faithless", their neural link never formed correctly due to conditions of the world, but still had their urge to rebel, so with the power of their Patriarch they had conquered their world, but soon after turned on their Patriarch, and prepared for their former masters to arrive. Not to revere them, but to repel them. It was a heavy subversion from the normal GSC stories, as it turns into more of a fight for a real free life of hope, rather than the grimdark "Everyone is processed in goo vats" norm.
That sounds really cool. It reminds me of another concept I heard where the hive fleet is stopped before the planet that houses a gsc, resulting in planets of gscs waiting for "saviours" that never come. But your idea sounds much more fun
But wouldn’t these “free” cultists still be burdened with the Tyranid genes, making the likehood of that link cutting impossible ALSO the generations after them like the pure strain genestealers that would come from their cycles?
Maybe a cult started by ygmarl genestealers? Since the nids don't digest them, and they're the only genestealers actively trying to be eaten by the hive fleet while other genestealers get away from it. Could fluff that it's the ygmarls weird genetics that caused the hive fleet to reject the psychic connection
I actually had a similar idea where for some reason their hive fleet never arrives. So they eventually become a planet wide force that no longer worships for their gods to arrive but rather now just passively worship them as gods. Maybe the patriarch even becomes the reigning leader since nothing ever arrives. I feel like they’d eventually start spreading to other planets either passively with one to two people or very militaristically. I call them the “Cult of the Forgotten”
@@nukeskywalker3836 Planet calls in Guard help for Chaos Cultist problem, turns out they're the Cult of the Forgotten, so they're constantly hiding the less 'presentable' members from the help that came. Cue a very confused inquisitor who's Tarot readings keep screaming 'massive xenos threat on planet' at them.
Genestealers are one of my favorites, it’s like a weird mix of the Rebel Alliance and Cthulhu spawn. Also I think it used to be that the first generation looked the most human and later generations looked more alien until they retconned it, which IMO makes more sense and would make it easier to hide the cult in it’s early stage. EDIT I’ve been told I’m mistaken about the retcon bit, but I still think looking more human at the beginning makes more sense,
Yeah, I really don't understand the whole "lets start not looking human, then work our way to human, only to then go back to not human" thing. The only benefit is the second to last generation can infiltrate important positions.
My explanation for the early gens being more monstrous is to condition and train the cult to be secretive and foment resentment of the native population. Think about it, your auntie and all her kin were BURNED ALIVE for the crime of...having a beautiful daughter? Remember, they're mind whammied. It puts pressure on the cult-to-be to act like a cult, and transfer their fanaticism onto their family instead
@@Tmanowns I always understood it to be some thing like the genestealers genes becoming more diluted each generation, until the 4th where the 'human' dna was in the ascendant and the reproductive cells had a surprise for the unsuspecting future wife/husband/partner of the 4th gen.
the blue skin isnt a standart thing, while it is the most common for them to be blue/purpletinted the tint is a remnant of the hive fleet the original genestealer was a part of so depending on the fleet they can also be dark skinned or red skinned or even green or just pale it is always just a slight tint shift, not actually making their skin really weird colors, its just a few shades off from what it should be
A thing to note is, if space marines were born from genestealer infested parents, the broodfather can still influence them, maybe not direct control but still enough to suggest things
@@silverbolt67 Except for certain asshat writers, the Imperium has a corkscrewy logic to the grimdark. The Astartes may sound like strawman neonazis with the "genetic purity" stuff, but implanting gene seed in the wrong dna both wastes something worth a planet's ransom, and often as the not results are literally monstrous.
@@davehood2667 You'd think. Unfortunately, the Genetic Screening isn't perfect, as shown in Belisarius Cawl, The Great Work. The Scythes of the Emperor (or Emperor's Scythes) have several members who are infected with genestealer genetic material, be it as contagii or hybrids.
So apparently there are reason why Humans are the primary targets of Genestealers and why other factions don't have a big a problem with them. Chaos - Sure they have to deal with it, but Chaos worlds don't exactly lend themselves to this kind of infestation, what with the demons being present and doing what demons do. Orks - Apart from the infected don't act Orky enough and I guess that they also rub the Ork's gestalt psychic presence the wrong way as well, so it's like they have a target on their back regardless and get killed. Also because they reproduce asexually, while they can infect the Ork's fungal spores, I guess over time the Ork spores tends to weed out the infection over generations, so it doesn't really get to progress that far. Kroot - They apparently taste each others pheromones and immediately pick up that something is wrong with the infected, so they don't breed and the Kroot Elders know what it is. Eldar - They don't reproduce fast enough and have a more advanced genetic makeup which means it takes a lot more generations before the cult can manifest and spread, so it's incredibly easy to catch it early. Also, because everyone is a psychic, they pickup on who is infected incredibly fast as it's implied the infection disturbs the warp enough that they often catch it and purge it incredibly fast. T'au - Whatever connection the T'au have with the Ethereal Caste that lets them command the T'au I guess the Genestealers can't wholly overcome it, or if they can, refusing the orders of an Ethereal reveals them and gets them killed regardless. In theory if an Ethereal got infected, it could cause problems, but they are expected to be leaders and are nearly always in regular contact with other Ethereals, so them slinking away, unnoticed from the public eye is incredibly suspicious. T'au society also being far less religious and far more efficient (IE: Fewer dark places for the infected to hide and fester in) means it's far easier for them to pickup on the infection before it approaches critical mass. Not sure Genestealers are public knowledge amongst the T'au but could totally see it being the case. Space Marines - Are Sterile because of the Geneseed and they can resist the psychic urges of the infection. It doesn't really go into more detail then that, I'd presume though the Geneseed eventually takes care of the infection and the Mechanicus screen the Progenoid Glands for possible genetic corruption (from Chaos) regardless so if it mucked up the Geneseed in some way they'd stop it then and there. Necrons - Are robots
I can imagine Tau citizens not knowing but atleast the armies and security forces would vs as an imperial guard only knowing that your fighting mutants
@@jeambeam3173 with T'au infections hard because of their strict caste system. Fire Caste will only breed with other Fire Caste for example so the rate of growth is extremely slow making them a poor choice for hosts
@@RingOutKO Papa Nergal be like "Aww...an infestation, bugs after my own heart....you know if they didn't eat everything instead of leaving it in a perpetual state of stagnancy and decay, but we can fix that."
I know there was at least one craft world that was fully infested, eventually resulting in what was known as the "patriarch of Kaine", a mixture of the avatar of Kaine and a patriarch. But it does seem to be the only example of a successful infection of the Eldar. Also the Drukhari deal with so many poisons and weird flesh changing nonsense that I assume they can catch it pretty fast. I also heard a story about how a group of T'au scientists were keeping genestealers in captivity and studying them and their effects until they inevitably broke out, possibly with the help of infected T'au. At the end of that story it's also implied that the ethereal overseeing the case is also infected so look forward to that I guess.
Has anyone else noticed how a lot of the Gene Stealer outfits (more so the simpler ones, not the cloaks n shit) look a lot like the kind of uniforms of the resistance in the original Star Wars trilogy? There’s a picture of a gene stealer mini somewhere that looks like he literally stole an X-wing flight suit
Granted, its a lot more efficient to get them to walk themselves to the pools, they have to break the link at some point, and I doubt having the node (gaunt, genestealer, or otherwise) die is particularly pleasant for the hive mind. It wouldn’t have been grimdark if GW didn’t address it, but you know, GeeDubs.
I love that part Willy wonka’s great plan to find a successor hinged on him suddenly acting like an old-shitty man to kids and their parents, or at least the ones Oompa Loompas didn’t devour and replace with candy based robots
I'm actually not sad about this one since it ties in well with the Angels of Death show currently going on. I know very little about the Tyranids and even less about their jeanstealer boys. However, it's day 17 of me requesting a Space Wolves Lore video 🙏
@@cal593 Angels of Death is a Warhammer 40K show on Warhammer+ based on the Blood Angels vs Genestealer Cults. Hope you find is as good as I do as it was made by the same guy who produced the Helsreach episodes
*Official message from the Sector Governor to a Hive City:* _Make sure to keep an eye on your clothes while you leave them out to dry, these "Jeanstealers" might try to steal them._
In fact, in the Cyaphas Cain novels, our brave commissary use a knife to estract the genestealer parasite from two guards that he execute to prove they are recently infected.
Me too. I was in shock. Edit: Incase anyone is wondering McCree will receive a new name because the DEVELOPER he is named after turned out to be a massive pos.
I love Genestealer Cults because they are the working man's army. Their heavy support weapons are repurposed mining tools, their tanks and APCs are stolen construction equipment, their fast attack vehicles are just civilian model motorcycles and ATVs, their melee guys are using drills and buzzsaws to cut through armor because they've probably never even heard of power swords before. My dream project is to collect a full squat army loaded out with GSC-esque improvised weapons and run them using GSC rules as just an angry human imperial workforce in revolt. I already have a squat kill team and I'm having a blast playing them.
I'm a bit sad Bricky didn't talk about that time thousands and thousands of cultists jumped from a cliff just to break a bunker where a few guardsmen where hiding and the sound of flesh and bones breaking on stone and metal made them have a mental breakdown.
Small correction, there is some precedent about finding foreign organisms inside gene stealer infected humans, it's hard to find, but it does grow like a small, extra organ, I can't go into details since it's got something to do with one of the books you guys are reading next.
@@AGrumpyPanda good point, though you may need a Magos of high enough rank to operate something like that, not for the fact that, they're not likely to lend others such venerated technology.
If I’m remembering the lore right, genestealers can work on any race or creature, but with them being a very recent threat (in the area of the Milky Way) they can’t really affect many other races than humans. Orkz are… orkz, necrons aren’t biological beings, elder are fucking hard to find on a good day (not to mention the dark elder don’t reproduce much and the craft world elder don’t reproduce at all so it would be hard for genestealers to take root), and I guess the tau could be affected, it’s just that GW hasn’t made any lore of them experiencing a genestealers infestation.
Okay, I know Bricky said he wasn't going to do a blood angels episode anytime soon, but (on the very rare case) if Bricky or Dk is reading this, my friend is new and wants to start a blood angels army, and I don't know much or any of their lore details, so I want to give him a warm welcome to the Imperial truth On other news these episodes have made wednesdays a small littl break the week for me, I eeally enjoy these, keep it up
They also need to cover them because Bricky knows next to nothing about the Blood Angels either. If you're looking for some great Blood Angels lore, Baldermort's videos are great. And Wolf Lord Rho has some great story bits about Sanguinius and Chapter Master Dante.
Send him a link to Baldermorts guide to warhammer vid on them.(the newest one it's like an hour long) he does a great job with them. Though the Dark Angels currently fuck hard in table top and are pretty sweet
@@BrunoWolfMetal A 4Chan poster placed a Rainbow Dash toy into a jar filled with an ill-modest amount of his own sperm. He then boiled the toy in the so-called c** jar. This is the "jar meme". In this case, rather than a jar of c** with an innocuous object in it, it's instead Fulgrim, which might as well be the same thing. I hope this explanation has provided as much torture as it has insight, because I will need all I can to stave off She-Who-Thirsts, who has most definitely took notice of me just by means of me talking about this for so long.
@@edmundthespiffing2920 The truest of pleasures are wrought from the tempered pains and the serenaded cries of anguish. I however, would like some peace and quiet, in sound and mind, and I cannot, THEN NOBODY WILL!!!
Something i find really dumb about genestealers is that their generation cicle is fully backwards but it ends up in an astartes type atrocity. Wouldnt it make more sense that the first generations look more human like so it is easier to infilitrate and the later generations are more mutated?
@@jamieenoshima5147 nope. According to Lexicanum The first generation Hybrids closely resemble Purestrain Genestealers. But, with each new generation of Hybrids, Genestealer traits give way to Human traits, until fourth generation Hybrids are all but indistinguishable from untainted Humans.
Some worlds have similar levels of technology as we do right now and people there use wheeled vehicles to travel so traffic signs are most likely used aswell.
the location of the implantation does not matter the gene altering parasite can take hold anywhere usually they aim around the abdomen or thigh as a wound will not draw too much attention there but when attacking marines they usually aim around the neck as its less protected by bone plate
When you guys started talking about Nurgle, I was holding out hope you would talk about the Only canon chaos genestealer cult, Cult Tenebrous who are devoted to Nurgle. P.S also the Grimfang's Kult which is the only somewhat successful Ork Genestealer cult.
You know what would slap? An X-COM 2 like game but you play as a genestealer cult slowly planning and enacting an uprising of a Hive City. You could have different types of Hive Cities with different types of enemies, from underhive gangs to Arbites to different Guard regiments to Ad Mech to even Marines or the Inquisition if things really start going crazy. You could customise all your guys, give them all the different ramshackle, improvised and ransacked weapons that the Cults use, get different specialized gene upgrades and mutations from your patriarch, lead actual genestealers or big boy brutes, do assassinations, sabotages, political machinations and eventually prepare for the full blown invasion of the world by the nids. You could have the doomsday clock ticking be the time until your base is found by the Hive forces and completely destroyed, or once the uprising begins the time until a full Imperial force shows up to wreck your shit or exterminatus the planet. That'd be awesome, give other factions besides fucking marines, chaos and orks a chance to shine.
When Bricky started talking about them using mining lasers and saws it reminded me of dead space 1 where all your weapons save for the assault riffle are just stuff you found lying around. Like the flagship weapon is the cutting blaster, there's a buzzsaw, a chemical sprayer that Isaac repurposes as a flame thrower iirc, and that's just the kind of vibe the cults' weapons give me.
In the Last Chancers novel one singular genestealer started a cult which caused the hive city of Coritanorum to rebel in a civil war against the Imperium. All the tanks, guard regiments where fighting for inpdependence. Because of one genestealer. Not even a Patriarch.
Oh the happy souls reference made me well happy. Made even better since it is one of my favorite bits from the animation. You phrased that really weird but I know exactly what you're talking about
I like the idea of a novel about a hive fleet that is getting frickin reckt, and they arrive at a planet taken over by genestealers, and there is like a really good genestealer comissar and the tyranids let the genestealer cult live so they help with their superior military tactics
Thank you guys for posting your content on youtube. It has made my long work commutes far more tolerable, and has furthered both my knowledge and enjoyment of the 40k lore!
Geanstelers have bean around since RT, they got their info from WD all brought together in the 40K Compilation back in '91, they had their own list in Codes Army Lists (in the 2e Core Box) and had their own army list in the 'nids 2e Codex
@@lazerhosen In 1e the only folks that got their own Codex where the Orcs, who got two sizable hard cover books, and Chaos who got two books they had to shear with Fantasy. they got as much support as anyone else in 1e. I miss the Limos
@@lazerhosen back in the late 80's I was a wee lad who mostly used his copy of RT as an RPG, I was at Briz-Con and saw what folks said where the mockups for the 1e Eldar Books and Imperim Books and a stand a lone Chaos book and the Binders with the continence for said books and the WD articles to support the releases, the top/contented 40K & Fantasy players said they already knew what was coming in WD for the next year and a half (and it turned out to be mostly right), but we never got Codex Imperials, Spacemarine, Codex Eldar and the 2nd Eldar book that didn't have a solid name. Instead about 2 years later we got the 2e boxed set, in my opinion the best version of the 40K table top game. And Eldar are not a Weeb faction, they are more pre-Late Bronze Age Collapse (Fertile Crescent and Eastern Mediterranean) if you look at their styling and parts of their story. I'd have liked to see them have brought back variant Aspect Warriors in to 2e so I could have used my Laz Canon & Sheriker Canon Dark Reapers (actual Citidel & GW models).
@@lazerhosen with all the power creep of later codexes and stuff from WD articles they needed to do a revised 2e, like Fantasy did with the shift from 4e to 5e too clean things up, not go over to a even worse Melee focused game that was 3e and later ed's.
@@lazerhosen the "Newest" GW game I've played with any regularity is 1e Dark Heresy, but these days I have short runs at Retro games like Necromunda, Mordhime or 1&2e 40K or 4/5 & 6e Fantasy. Mostly these days my Table top is a Beta of a Fantasy battle game using Printed Minies, I can get a Section (unit) for the cost of a 90's era Blister or box of plastics and not adjusted for inflation, the same guys may be working on a Sic-Fi game and if they do I'll likely formally join the Beta.
There was an aeldari crafworld infected, intentionaly to escape Slaanesh.... they were killed by the Ynnari... they had a @@@@@@ Patriarch mixed Avatar
ill always remeber that deathwatch story were they send an inquisitor lady to an infected planet to basically get fucked by a prime; "rescued" by deathwatch squad just to be brought back for experiments
Isn’t weird that last lore video majorkill had was the same subject and this week adric and majorkill do the same subject again are they in kahoots with each other
Yeah I don’t like majorkill, he makes 40k lore sound sooo cringy and aids and makes warhammer look bad. Him and Valrak are a cancer sore in the community. The reason I mention valrak is because he’s just a fat Scottish hype beast that milks overrated content for money. They maybe well known in the community, but they don’t speak for it.
I can understand your point of view but it’s kinda them and balermort are the reason I got into the hobby I think for the sole reason I feel is more accessible but due to majorkill videos I started watching luetin09 and these guys so I still enjoy his videos and I like the prospect of them working together
Fun Fact about Genestealer Shenenigans: One time i played with my Word Bearers against Gene Stealers and the genestealer player plopped out his Kellermorph and obliberated not only my Dark apostle Turn 2, but also my buffed up Deamon Prince. Next Turn one of his Psykers mind controlled my Contempetor with double Plasmacannons and overheat shot my Terminators dead and dealt 2 mortal wounds to the contemptor due to rolling ones. But still really fun army with al lot of funny stuff to pull off!
There was one GSC eldar maiden world i know of. The other eldar were creeped the hell out by them. Long and short, the tyranids showed up and the non infected eldar noped out of there real fast
Sadly no mention of the Bodguard guy. He'd be there while the Matriarch is having negotiations in the guise of "peace" except when it doesn't go as they want the bodyguard has a little button on his sword that he'd secretly press to give the other party bad juju and extreme agression so the guard can strike them down in the name of "self defense"
@@tylerhub4342 So... a while ago some dude presented a "my little pony" mini inside a jar in which he would cum until completely covered... I'm sorry ....
www.twitch.tv/adeptusridiculous we have a twich page now too!
Majorkill did this topic hours before you. Are you two colluding?
I request an Iron Hands episode
Majorkill collab would be dope
As much as they would hate it I think the salamanders are perfectly suited to crushing genestealer cults
oh god why
As a former active duty Marine, I can say that if we’re not supposed to eat crayons, then why do they make them in 120 different delicious flavors?
As a former Crayola employee, it's a long standing tradition dating all the way back to the battle of Below wood when we got a letter from frontline combatants requesting extra rations.
I mean, I think that’s the edge the USMC has over the Army. Marines do have all around higher standards for enlisting. Based on experience, the Army is the melting pot of people that couldn’t get into the other branches haha
IRL space marine
true, and you can make beautiful art if you yak
It takes a tough soldier to both eat and shit rainbows.
Man, the fact that Shy used her text to speech for BEEP instead of just using a beep sound for censorship makes me unreasonably happy.
What is the word being censored?
@@corinthiansdaniels3728 some vile shit, but the description would be human genetic secretions from the testicular apparatuses
@@corinthiansdaniels3728 please, for your own sanity, don't look it up. You can never unsee it
CUM
@@corinthiansdaniels3728 i do agree with walter on that one. DON'T! JUST DON'T!
'Bricky: have you seen X?
DK: no'
Should definitely be on the bingo card at this point
Yes! This! Thank you!
COME ON SAY KHORNE FLAKES I'M BOUTA GET BINGO!
center option
You didn't mention my favorite Genestealer Cult story: They've reached the Tau. When a Tau Fire Caste met one of the 'children' it was a tentacle faced little bastard and he essentially went "Oh Ethereals. THIS is why the fucking Imperium is the way it is. Oh fuck they have a point, oh no."
@Noob7Zilla There's a surprising amount of that going around, mainly because the Tau Empire is being written out of their 'we know nothing, it'll be fine!' phase and into the 'The Ethereals say not to tell anyone, but things are fethed!' phase.
@@Sorain1 I mean, they've been having lots of wake-up calls recently, haven't they..?
@@HTWW Having a chaos invasion come for you tends to force one to wake up and smell the ashes, yes.
What book is this from?
@@Sorain1 when you pause the video, but the screams don't stop...
Am I the only one who can see a scenario where an inquisitor hears a planetary governor talk about a bunch of genestealers and orders an immediate exterminatus. But then it turns out he was just complaining that, due to an intense, unpredicted geothermal freeze there was a resource shortage and some factory workers began stealing each other’s pants to stave off frost bite and it just became locally known as the “uprising of Jean stealers.”
it would be an even MORE dumb coincidence if the Inquisitor speaks more refined *High* Gothic and the PG speaks in a Local veriant of *Low* Gothic, so its just a phonetic coincidence.
Death by pun.
P.S. Considering that the Inquisition is the secret/thought police, wouldn't it make sense for there to be an Ordo dedicated to monitoring and editing the "Canon"/*Legal* language of the species? It would be VERY Orwellian.
@@orraklbenedict1832 you ever seen Lutien’s video on why there isn’t any invention in 40k He brings up the quote from 1984 on language and he says basically low gothic does that on its own
That is comically specific
@@orraklbenedict1832 I think there is an actual Ordo but not a major one, that records the local language and language variants of a sector. Not sure about this though, I might just be wrong or have mistaken this for something else.
Sounds like a joke from a Ciaphus Cain book
Genestealers don't work on Orks because the orks heard someone say "Genestealer" and they immediately responded
"Sounds like a humie problem, we don't wearz jeans!"
And that was the end of the Ork jeanstealer problem.
They don't work on Orks because they're too calm for an Ork lmao
redemption corps disagrees
sure a genestork will be less agressive
but its aggressive enough to use its 4 arms and exoskeleton to beat the crap out of any ork that tries to bully it
and in winning the fight it still grows bigger
if one of them survives a year they usually take over the local clans
orks are far from immune
@@ashardalondragnipurake DAS A GUD ONE 'UMIE. DA JEANORK IZ BASICULY A GROT. FIRST GERASHUN IS ALMOST AS WEAK AS A HUMIE AND DONT LOOK ORKY. EVUN THE DUMEST GIT WILL KNOW T'KRUMP ONE O DEM "BOYZ". IN ADSHUN THOS GITZ ALWAYS RUNNIN ROUND TRYIN T KISS U LIOK A HUMIE. IF THEYZE SO GREAT OW THEY GONNA MAKE MOR JENERASHUNS WHEN ORKS DONT RE'PRODUCE LIOK SUN WEAK UMIE? I BET DEM BUG BOYZ DONT EVEN GET BIGGER AFTER KRUMPIN DEY SO WEAK.
@@AltoStratusX1 genestealers dont need human reproduction to work
an implanted ork reproduces like any other ork and its spawn will be hybrids
just like you can never get rid of orks once they land on a planet
once an ork gets implanted the ork population will never stop having genestealers among them
calling them weak is also... inaccurate
yea their muscle mass is slightly lower then a pure ork, but their speed and reaction time is fast even for a marine
they might not krump ya in one punch but they will krump ya after the 15th and those 15 will land as fast as one from a regular ork
and while the bugs dont get bigger after krumpin, a hybrid is a hybrid
its an ork with genestealer benefits, not a genestealer
they do grow from krupin tings
Datz da true powah or Orkish beleef!
I'm going to be that guy and point out you can identify physically if someone has been infected. In one of the Ciaphas Kain books, he is able to identify a sort of flesh bundle thing in the chest of a dead infected marine. Also in the the devastation of baal a Blood Angels Apothecary is able to identify a civilian who is infected before calmly explaining to the man what is going to happen, giving him a few moments to collect his thoughts and then quickly snapping his neck.
Old lore dude, probably retconned
@@TheFaceoffdg Devastation of Baal is pretty recent tho
@@TheFaceoffdg caisphas Cain and devastation of ball are fairly recent
actually somewhat wholesome of the marine to give the civilian a few moments
@@liamnade9099 it was it was supposed to be a sign of the Primaris Guilliman bought with him being more compassionate, the apothecary even let the guy say goodbye to his son first.
After the questionnaire at the beginning of this episode I feel it’s time to bring up a complaint of mine. Despite the fact that both shy and bricky have had multiple episodes on their preferred factions, dk and his thousand sons have not received one even though that would be a great opportunity to create a series of episodes leading into the chaos god tzench. So it is in response to this unfairness to dk that I must request that the next marine video be on the space wolves.
You had me for a second 😂
@@turnt_barbarian they had us in the first half, not gonna lie.
I see nothing wrong with this logic
Weirdly makes sense
from a quite reliable source I can say that, and I quote "THE FURRIE FUCK DID NOT SUCCED "
I love the story about the Genestealer Cult that took over an Eldar Craftworld, and the Cult's Patriarch became the Avatar of Khaine; resulting in a being referred to as the Patriarch of Khaine that was a weird fusion of Genestealer and Eldar God.
Shame we haven't got that on the table top. Genestealer cults being able to have portions of other armies like Eldar or Tau and getting some unique units for when they do (like the patriarch of Kaine) would be cool as heck.
Wait *whaaaaaat*?
Eldar Genestealer cult sounds like a faction that would end up being stronger than the craftworld eldar and the tyranids.
On tabletop of course.
@@AAhmou if it's anything like brood brothers for guard, theyd have a severely restricting list of things they can take. Some basic officers, basic infantry, basic armor, no characters, etc; and theyd probably loose their specific craftworld bonus just like brood brothers. So a limited list of vanilla Eldar with few or no characters. Strong yes but not game breaking.
20:40 To this question about Gen 1. Remember. Geene Stealers have Hypnosis. The very moment that thing comes out it will instantly uses it to implent the idea into the parents head that "It is the most beautiful baby there is and you need to protect it" and from that point on the Cult starts to grow.
This is curious because if the genestealer have this power doesn't this mean that the tyranids also have and if the hive mind really wanted he could implement this in all of the tyranids bio-forms to make a invasion more easily
@@luangomes2431 i think they might have b taken off-guard, or by suprise. Otherwise, yeah why wouldn't they put it in all of their lifeforms?
Sure you can say it hypnotizes the parents, but is it going to hypnotize everyone in the hospital too? The doctors and visiting family? And if baby genestealers have hypnosis strong enough to brainwash whole groups, wouldn’t adults be even stronger? From things like Ciaphas Cain and Space Hulk, it doesn’t seem like it. That’s why I think it would make more sense for the first generation to look human. Otherwise we have to assume the first gen are all born in caves and abandoned mine shafts.
@@starwarsnerd100 "hospital "? Bold of you to think that the planet HAS a hospital.
@@richardduska1558 I mean, it probably does? Lots of planets and cities in the Imperium seem similar to modern ones. (See Ciaphas Cain, the third Gaunts Ghost book, and the Infinite and the Divine.) Even on a primitive medieval world were women give birth in huts or castles, other people are probably around when it happens. Even on planets were the low class workers are basically slaves, if the workers are allowed to have families there’s probably either a basic medical facility or some hovel shared by a dozen families were births typically happen in front of others.
An optimists opinion : The jar was half Fullgrim
hehe... full-grim... made my idiot brain go laugh
Thanks, i hate it
😐
I’m lost. Is it an allusion to the MLP cum jar from years ago?
@keith higgins Deviants. Lmao
The cult's existence might be a sign that the Tyranids are not just driven by hunger. The connection the cult members have to the Tyranid hive mind made them and the people they affected worship the Tyranids as a god but then, once they arrived to feed, the Tyranids first cut said connection off, making the people they affected see, with clarity, the monstrosity they had worshipped as a god and beckoned to come for their salvation... And only THEN did the Tyranids started eating.
If the Tyranids are just driven by hunger for biomass, the result of the Tyranids' infestation should be similar to a zombie outbreak but instead it's more like DOOM's hell cult which suggests that the Tyranids are actively malicious, as malicious as, if not more so, than Chaos.
Or they are just a smart Hive Mind seeing the efficiency in both subterfuge and cutting of the quite dangerous Immaterium from those not yet corrupted.
@@requiemlul3140 That's what I wrote, the cults' existence implies that the Tyranids are not mindlessly hungry, they're intelligent, sapient, malicious AND hungry. If they're just driven by ravenous hunger that overrides all thoughts, these cults wouldn't exist, there would instead be 40k's equivalent of Dead Space's Black Markers and Necromorphs instead (which would also be interesting).
@@seeingseeer5282
No, what I mean is they’re just intelligent, not malicious.
Maybe the Hive Mind needs more than Bio mass to survive, like how the Dark Eldar need suffering to survive?
@@requiemlul3140 Their actions imply malicious intent too. As I wrote, the Tyranids cut off the connection to the people the affected when they arrived to eat them instead of letting them die blissfully ignorant of the truth of their actions. That implies maliciousness on their part.
The people who clean their Nurgle models are the true servants of Chaos
It is how one best works Tzeentch's will against Nurgle in the great game.
Wash the unclean! Let the soap flow! Hand sanitizer for everyone! Brush and scrub, until it's done! Make. Them. Floss! (And don't forget the mouthwash for that minty breath and extra protection!) White smiles for everyone! WASH THE UNCLEAN!
The Great Clean One
To clean Nurglite models is to become a true changer of ways. With the rot and filth of stagnation gone, lesser minds will think the taint of Chaos is gone from these wretches, but no! Now these tiny plastic mans, their very essence altered, have become Tzeentch's hidden pawns in the great game. The game of Weirding Everyone The Fuck Out.
Genestealer Cults are not a new army, we had them in second edition, then GW ignored them for 30 years but for some reason didn't squat them, and now they're back for 'reasons'.
@@lazerhosen In 1st Ed and 2nd Ed too you had much bigger gaps in the model range than these days as GW expected you to proxy, convert, and do whatever to fill those gaps so you can't judge faction-ness like that. They also totally had a full section in the 2nd Ed Tyranid book so they hung around longer than just being a relic from Rogue Trader.
They only disappeared in 3rd when most of the fun and character of the setting was also being ironed out so all the things could be much more grey and brown as was the style of the time.
Fun fact: considering that, while incredibly rare, it's not unheard of for Genestealer Cults to fall to Chaos (the Cult Tenebrous for example which worships Nurgle). This, combined with the fact that other races have been infected by Genestealers before means that there is a tiny but non-zero chance for there to be a *Tau-based Genestealer Cult that worships Slaanesh.* You now have triple the waifu in one bundle.
TRIPLE HERESY!
@@adamhunter1223BRING OUT THE TRIPLE FLAMER BROTHER
Something seldom mentioned is that the tyranids don't just discard the genetic coding for the specific genestealer cultists. Some of them are recreated within future cults, popping up all across the galaxy. The kelermorph is the most notable example.
As a united states Marine...I approve of this also, Muscles Are Required Intelligence Not Essential
Nice
My personal favorite one is My Ass Rides In Navy Equipment
There are actually cases of genestealers which at least attempted to infiltrate into T'au culture. For that I recommend short novel 'Greater Evil' by Peter Fehervari. Really good read. After that you can read his entire 'Dark Coil' cycle.
Wait a fucking minute
There are Hungarian W40k authors
Yoooo wtf
There's one story of a bunch of T'au intentionally infecting themselves with Genestealer spoor for GREAT SCIENCE!
The 4th sphere of expancion was a fucking joke and a failure for all tau
Yeah, T'au Genestealer Cults do happen, but they usually aren't very successful given that T'au reproduce using government arranged breeding programs, and the Etherals keep a close eye on what their citizenry are doing, so when alarming number of people drop off the grid to join a weird cult, it raises lots of red flags and a thorough investigation, not giving the cult the time it needs to actually get off the ground. The only notable time the T'au had major difficulties was when they thought they could start up a controlled colony of Genestealers for research purposes, with some very predictable results.
Oh yeah they should talk about the time the tau found genstealers and some earth cast guy was like let's see what happen if we infect a tau. And then after sometime the planet turned silent and they discovered in the research labs a ongoing bloody "civil war" with weird mutants. So the eternals quarantine the planet and Send the fire cast in which spend 10 years cleaning the mess and even that it was even longer quarantined 🤣
Not the purple faction I was hoping for (Emp's Children, Rylanor when?), but this will do nicely. I love my espionage bug boi cults.
Patience. I'm still waiting for Dorn and the IF. We will get it soon enough, brother.
@@stankobarabata2406 in honor of this episode being about genestealers; patience is a virtue. I can wait.
Purple makes you sneaky orkz know this
Isn't the emperor's chidren color purple
@@luangomes2431 Pre-Heresy. Post-Heresy is pink. But, it changes from warband to warband.
I love the "spreading" methods of the stealers. There is one that just has so extremely efficient and obedient workers and soldiers that they export them to other systems to spread XD
"Humanity has always looked to the stars for enlightenment and at last, THE STARS HAVE ANSWERED!"
I want to see a book about imperials cleaning out a cult they think is Genestealer because of all the Star talk.
And then a C’TAN BUSTS THROUGH THE FLOOR AND STARTS THROWING LIGHTNING BOLTS
"We hear them in our sleep, we feel the in our blood! THEY CALL! And we will answer!"
OH THERE WILL RESISTANCE TO OUR ASCENSION
I just found that video, why hasn’t anybody informed me about this before today???
@@DaBlueIghuanawhat was the video? I'm clueless.
I love jokes about the USMC. M.A.R.I.N.E - Muscles Are Required, Intelligence Not Essential
What do you call a Marine with an IQ of 70? General.
How do you kill a Marine? Throw a shovel full of sand against a wall and tell him to hit the beach!
How do you spot a Marine on an Air Force base? He's the one throwing bread to the helicopters
My Ass Rides In Navy Equipment
@@lazerhosen the word essential was too confusing for him so he substituted
M A R I N E can also stand for : My Ass Rides In Navy Equipment
@@Mecha_mage my father being navy that's the one I know best lmao
Ironically the marines require a larger score on the asvab than the army
I had an idea of GSC called "The Faithless", their neural link never formed correctly due to conditions of the world, but still had their urge to rebel, so with the power of their Patriarch they had conquered their world, but soon after turned on their Patriarch, and prepared for their former masters to arrive. Not to revere them, but to repel them. It was a heavy subversion from the normal GSC stories, as it turns into more of a fight for a real free life of hope, rather than the grimdark "Everyone is processed in goo vats" norm.
That sounds really cool. It reminds me of another concept I heard where the hive fleet is stopped before the planet that houses a gsc, resulting in planets of gscs waiting for "saviours" that never come. But your idea sounds much more fun
But wouldn’t these “free” cultists still be burdened with the Tyranid genes, making the likehood of that link cutting impossible ALSO the generations after them like the pure strain genestealers that would come from their cycles?
Maybe a cult started by ygmarl genestealers? Since the nids don't digest them, and they're the only genestealers actively trying to be eaten by the hive fleet while other genestealers get away from it.
Could fluff that it's the ygmarls weird genetics that caused the hive fleet to reject the psychic connection
I actually had a similar idea where for some reason their hive fleet never arrives. So they eventually become a planet wide force that no longer worships for their gods to arrive but rather now just passively worship them as gods. Maybe the patriarch even becomes the reigning leader since nothing ever arrives. I feel like they’d eventually start spreading to other planets either passively with one to two people or very militaristically. I call them the “Cult of the Forgotten”
@@nukeskywalker3836 Planet calls in Guard help for Chaos Cultist problem, turns out they're the Cult of the Forgotten, so they're constantly hiding the less 'presentable' members from the help that came. Cue a very confused inquisitor who's Tarot readings keep screaming 'massive xenos threat on planet' at them.
Looks like the RUclips machine spirits are cooperating now.
We must have used the right incense
*O I L E D*
Dang, I JUST saw Majorkill's video of geenstealers just now...
Creepy.
Rather appropriate considering it's the Tyrannids
You should check out the Baldermort video on them. The story at the beginning is one of my favorites
fuck, they're already spreading
Genestealers are one of my favorites, it’s like a weird mix of the Rebel Alliance and Cthulhu spawn. Also I think it used to be that the first generation looked the most human and later generations looked more alien until they retconned it, which IMO makes more sense and would make it easier to hide the cult in it’s early stage. EDIT I’ve been told I’m mistaken about the retcon bit, but I still think looking more human at the beginning makes more sense,
No it was never that, the final generation (4th) before going back to purestrain was almost human looking.
Yeah, I really don't understand the whole "lets start not looking human, then work our way to human, only to then go back to not human" thing. The only benefit is the second to last generation can infiltrate important positions.
My explanation for the early gens being more monstrous is to condition and train the cult to be secretive and foment resentment of the native population. Think about it, your auntie and all her kin were BURNED ALIVE for the crime of...having a beautiful daughter? Remember, they're mind whammied. It puts pressure on the cult-to-be to act like a cult, and transfer their fanaticism onto their family instead
@@Tmanowns I always understood it to be some thing like the genestealers genes becoming more diluted each generation, until the 4th where the 'human' dna was in the ascendant and the reproductive cells had a surprise for the unsuspecting future wife/husband/partner of the 4th gen.
I think that the original way was much better
the blue skin isnt a standart thing, while it is the most common for them to be blue/purpletinted the tint is a remnant of the hive fleet the original genestealer was a part of
so depending on the fleet they can also be dark skinned or red skinned or even green or just pale
it is always just a slight tint shift, not actually making their skin really weird colors, its just a few shades off from what it should be
Oh that _is_ interesting
@@mojn4249 with how vulcam got that pitch black skin. A dude with a greenish skin is normal
A thing to note is, if space marines were born from genestealer infested parents, the broodfather can still influence them, maybe not direct control but still enough to suggest things
No no this is cannon. It happened in one if the books i think it was one of the cawl ones
@@rexalley8397 One should think the genetic screening done prior to geneseed implantation would catch it.
@@davehood2667 Your applying good logic... Inquisitor catch this heretic
@@silverbolt67 Except for certain asshat writers, the Imperium has a corkscrewy logic to the grimdark. The Astartes may sound like strawman neonazis with the "genetic purity" stuff, but implanting gene seed in the wrong dna both wastes something worth a planet's ransom, and often as the not results are literally monstrous.
@@davehood2667 You'd think. Unfortunately, the Genetic Screening isn't perfect, as shown in Belisarius Cawl, The Great Work. The Scythes of the Emperor (or Emperor's Scythes) have several members who are infected with genestealer genetic material, be it as contagii or hybrids.
So apparently there are reason why Humans are the primary targets of Genestealers and why other factions don't have a big a problem with them.
Chaos - Sure they have to deal with it, but Chaos worlds don't exactly lend themselves to this kind of infestation, what with the demons being present and doing what demons do.
Orks - Apart from the infected don't act Orky enough and I guess that they also rub the Ork's gestalt psychic presence the wrong way as well, so it's like they have a target on their back regardless and get killed. Also because they reproduce asexually, while they can infect the Ork's fungal spores, I guess over time the Ork spores tends to weed out the infection over generations, so it doesn't really get to progress that far.
Kroot - They apparently taste each others pheromones and immediately pick up that something is wrong with the infected, so they don't breed and the Kroot Elders know what it is.
Eldar - They don't reproduce fast enough and have a more advanced genetic makeup which means it takes a lot more generations before the cult can manifest and spread, so it's incredibly easy to catch it early. Also, because everyone is a psychic, they pickup on who is infected incredibly fast as it's implied the infection disturbs the warp enough that they often catch it and purge it incredibly fast.
T'au - Whatever connection the T'au have with the Ethereal Caste that lets them command the T'au I guess the Genestealers can't wholly overcome it, or if they can, refusing the orders of an Ethereal reveals them and gets them killed regardless. In theory if an Ethereal got infected, it could cause problems, but they are expected to be leaders and are nearly always in regular contact with other Ethereals, so them slinking away, unnoticed from the public eye is incredibly suspicious. T'au society also being far less religious and far more efficient (IE: Fewer dark places for the infected to hide and fester in) means it's far easier for them to pickup on the infection before it approaches critical mass. Not sure Genestealers are public knowledge amongst the T'au but could totally see it being the case.
Space Marines - Are Sterile because of the Geneseed and they can resist the psychic urges of the infection. It doesn't really go into more detail then that, I'd presume though the Geneseed eventually takes care of the infection and the Mechanicus screen the Progenoid Glands for possible genetic corruption (from Chaos) regardless so if it mucked up the Geneseed in some way they'd stop it then and there.
Necrons - Are robots
Go look up the Cult Tenebrouz
I can imagine Tau citizens not knowing but atleast the armies and security forces would vs as an imperial guard only knowing that your fighting mutants
@@jeambeam3173 with T'au infections hard because of their strict caste system. Fire Caste will only breed with other Fire Caste for example so the rate of growth is extremely slow making them a poor choice for hosts
@@RingOutKO Papa Nergal be like "Aww...an infestation, bugs after my own heart....you know if they didn't eat everything instead of leaving it in a perpetual state of stagnancy and decay, but we can fix that."
I know there was at least one craft world that was fully infested, eventually resulting in what was known as the "patriarch of Kaine", a mixture of the avatar of Kaine and a patriarch. But it does seem to be the only example of a successful infection of the Eldar. Also the Drukhari deal with so many poisons and weird flesh changing nonsense that I assume they can catch it pretty fast.
I also heard a story about how a group of T'au scientists were keeping genestealers in captivity and studying them and their effects until they inevitably broke out, possibly with the help of infected T'au. At the end of that story it's also implied that the ethereal overseeing the case is also infected so look forward to that I guess.
Has anyone else noticed how a lot of the Gene Stealer outfits (more so the simpler ones, not the cloaks n shit) look a lot like the kind of uniforms of the resistance in the original Star Wars trilogy? There’s a picture of a gene stealer mini somewhere that looks like he literally stole an X-wing flight suit
“We steal more than genes and jeans.”
I love that they look like classic star wars aliens but creepier
“Where’d all the denim go? The genestealer took it!”
No, don’t leave! This behaviour is encouraged!
i only just realised the books are part of his power armour
and not in the background.
Oh shoot, I never saw that!
Oh godamnit
His terminator armor has a built in library on top
Oh
This is the best thing in this whole commit section.
Granted, its a lot more efficient to get them to walk themselves to the pools, they have to break the link at some point, and I doubt having the node (gaunt, genestealer, or otherwise) die is particularly pleasant for the hive mind. It wouldn’t have been grimdark if GW didn’t address it, but you know, GeeDubs.
Xenos be praised, Tyranids and Genestealers hopefully will be a highlighted major faction later in 9th, they got such strong lore.
I've only just realised that the head of a genestealer is pretty much a direct copy of the baby from Eraserhead
Majorkill and Adeptus Ridiculous doing Denim stealers? What a collab that would be!!
I love that part Willy wonka’s great plan to find a successor hinged on him suddenly acting like an old-shitty man to kids and their parents, or at least the ones Oompa Loompas didn’t devour and replace with candy based robots
13:21 man, I didn’t know Imperial Governor Armstrong was secretly a genestealer. Thank goodness Inquisitor Raiden stopped him
I'm actually not sad about this one since it ties in well with the Angels of Death show currently going on. I know very little about the Tyranids and even less about their jeanstealer boys. However, it's day 17 of me requesting a Space Wolves Lore video 🙏
Take my jeans and I'll take your legs!
i wish i knew a site i could pirate it. i really wanna watch it
@@cryothepunching-bag7917 pirate bay maybe?
Excuse me, what show?
@@cal593 Angels of Death is a Warhammer 40K show on Warhammer+ based on the Blood Angels vs Genestealer Cults. Hope you find is as good as I do as it was made by the same guy who produced the Helsreach episodes
*Official message from the Sector Governor to a Hive City:*
_Make sure to keep an eye on your clothes while you leave them out to dry, these "Jeanstealers" might try to steal them._
Genestealers?!!
Exterminatus!!!
I wouldn't say Genestealers are bad. I mean, they always have dinner ready when guests arrive. That's a wonderful trait to have!
In fact, in the Cyaphas Cain novels, our brave commissary use a knife to estract the genestealer parasite from two guards that he execute to prove they are recently infected.
OUTSTANDING!
As someone that didn't know anything about the Mcree thing, I shat myself thinking they were talking about Mercer.
Me too. I was in shock.
Edit: Incase anyone is wondering McCree will receive a new name because the DEVELOPER he is named after turned out to be a massive pos.
@@DaRedGobbo And now said name is "Cole Cassidy".
@@kevincass9917 yep, named after a porn actress... actiblizz sure is something xD
@@RanRayu Wait, seriously? Cole Cassidy is a porn actress?!
@@kevincass9917 cassidy cole, they just reversed it xD
I’d love to se a plague inc like game where you’re Tyranids or a genesteale
Considering how much GW loves shilling their IP to mobile games, I'm surprised we never got something like that yet.
Got the Plague Inc app, checking custom scenarios. Brb.
There’s like 4 custom scenarios of base Plague Inc. based on 40k. All of them are Genestealer/Nid based.
@@codyevett2098 that's amazing
their aesthetic is definitely inspired by the original Total Recall.
A connection I feel stupid for not seeing before now.
@@cousinzeke4888 Yeah, I recently re-watched it and was like "oooooohhh, okay"
Other way around, 1990 movie vs 1986 game.
It makes so much more sense for the genestealer generations to work the other way around.
Im w/DK on this one, I feel like im in a better spiritual place not knowing about the beep jar meme
It very much up to the hive fleet, how they deal with their cults. Some let theM join the fleet and travel with the to the next worlds to conquer.
Kind of cool that the Tyranids use the genestealers as a psychic beacon for planets with enough BioLife.
I love Genestealer Cults because they are the working man's army. Their heavy support weapons are repurposed mining tools, their tanks and APCs are stolen construction equipment, their fast attack vehicles are just civilian model motorcycles and ATVs, their melee guys are using drills and buzzsaws to cut through armor because they've probably never even heard of power swords before.
My dream project is to collect a full squat army loaded out with GSC-esque improvised weapons and run them using GSC rules as just an angry human imperial workforce in revolt. I already have a squat kill team and I'm having a blast playing them.
WEE BAGGIS FER EVERYONE!
Official GW lore "genestealers cant make you preggers if you are wearing sweatpants even though they want to even more now"
I'm a bit sad Bricky didn't talk about that time thousands and thousands of cultists jumped from a cliff just to break a bunker where a few guardsmen where hiding and the sound of flesh and bones breaking on stone and metal made them have a mental breakdown.
Small correction, there is some precedent about finding foreign organisms inside gene stealer infected humans, it's hard to find, but it does grow like a small, extra organ, I can't go into details since it's got something to do with one of the books you guys are reading next.
Sufficiently ancient and esteemed auspex systems can also determine the difference at the genetic level.
@@AGrumpyPanda good point, though you may need a Magos of high enough rank to operate something like that, not for the fact that, they're not likely to lend others such venerated technology.
If I’m remembering the lore right, genestealers can work on any race or creature, but with them being a very recent threat (in the area of the Milky Way) they can’t really affect many other races than humans. Orkz are… orkz, necrons aren’t biological beings, elder are fucking hard to find on a good day (not to mention the dark elder don’t reproduce much and the craft world elder don’t reproduce at all so it would be hard for genestealers to take root), and I guess the tau could be affected, it’s just that GW hasn’t made any lore of them experiencing a genestealers infestation.
Okay, I know Bricky said he wasn't going to do a blood angels episode anytime soon, but (on the very rare case) if Bricky or Dk is reading this, my friend is new and wants to start a blood angels army, and I don't know much or any of their lore details, so I want to give him a warm welcome to the Imperial truth
On other news these episodes have made wednesdays a small littl break the week for me, I eeally enjoy these, keep it up
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They also need to cover them because Bricky knows next to nothing about the Blood Angels either. If you're looking for some great Blood Angels lore, Baldermort's videos are great. And Wolf Lord Rho has some great story bits about Sanguinius and Chapter Master Dante.
Send him a link to Baldermorts guide to warhammer vid on them.(the newest one it's like an hour long) he does a great job with them.
Though the Dark Angels currently fuck hard in table top and are pretty sweet
*Sees Fulgrim in a jar
“Ya, I get that ham (unfortunately)"
Can you please explain?
@@BrunoWolfMetal A 4Chan poster placed a Rainbow Dash toy into a jar filled with an ill-modest amount of his own sperm. He then boiled the toy in the so-called c** jar. This is the "jar meme".
In this case, rather than a jar of c** with an innocuous object in it, it's instead Fulgrim, which might as well be the same thing.
I hope this explanation has provided as much torture as it has insight, because I will need all I can to stave off She-Who-Thirsts, who has most definitely took notice of me just by means of me talking about this for so long.
@@GambeTama I-I... DAMN YOU CURIOSITY! IGNORANCE IS TRULY BLISS!
@@edmundthespiffing2920 The truest of pleasures are wrought from the tempered pains and the serenaded cries of anguish. I however, would like some peace and quiet, in sound and mind, and I cannot, THEN NOBODY WILL!!!
@@GambeTama what an eloquent way of putting it. I wish I can replicate your ways, my dude.
Something i find really dumb about genestealers is that their generation cicle is fully backwards but it ends up in an astartes type atrocity.
Wouldnt it make more sense that the first generations look more human like so it is easier to infilitrate and the later generations are more mutated?
I swear that when Bricky first explained it, I thought he had it backwards. He didn’t and now I’m scratching my head.
Yep. The first cultists should look like humans and the later, more deadly generations should look like genestealers.
@@Deus888 That is what happens though? The purestrains are the last.
pretty sure 15 years ago it was the other way around, not sure when GW got the dumbs and changed it
@@jamieenoshima5147 nope. According to Lexicanum
The first generation Hybrids closely resemble Purestrain Genestealers. But, with each new generation of Hybrids, Genestealer traits give way to Human traits, until fourth generation Hybrids are all but indistinguishable from untainted Humans.
Some worlds have similar levels of technology as we do right now and people there use wheeled vehicles to travel so traffic signs are most likely used aswell.
i'm just really happy Bricky has seen the gloriousness that is Happy Souls
BAWS WEAPOMS
the location of the implantation does not matter
the gene altering parasite can take hold anywhere
usually they aim around the abdomen or thigh as a wound will not draw too much attention there but when attacking marines they usually aim around the neck as its less protected by bone plate
When you guys started talking about Nurgle, I was holding out hope you would talk about the Only canon chaos genestealer cult, Cult Tenebrous who are devoted to Nurgle.
P.S also the Grimfang's Kult which is the only somewhat successful Ork Genestealer cult.
You know what would slap? An X-COM 2 like game but you play as a genestealer cult slowly planning and enacting an uprising of a Hive City. You could have different types of Hive Cities with different types of enemies, from underhive gangs to Arbites to different Guard regiments to Ad Mech to even Marines or the Inquisition if things really start going crazy. You could customise all your guys, give them all the different ramshackle, improvised and ransacked weapons that the Cults use, get different specialized gene upgrades and mutations from your patriarch, lead actual genestealers or big boy brutes, do assassinations, sabotages, political machinations and eventually prepare for the full blown invasion of the world by the nids. You could have the doomsday clock ticking be the time until your base is found by the Hive forces and completely destroyed, or once the uprising begins the time until a full Imperial force shows up to wreck your shit or exterminatus the planet. That'd be awesome, give other factions besides fucking marines, chaos and orks a chance to shine.
We need this
Thanks Bricky and DK now i know more about the aliens who wanna steal my jeans🙏
When Bricky started talking about them using mining lasers and saws it reminded me of dead space 1 where all your weapons save for the assault riffle are just stuff you found lying around. Like the flagship weapon is the cutting blaster, there's a buzzsaw, a chemical sprayer that Isaac repurposes as a flame thrower iirc, and that's just the kind of vibe the cults' weapons give me.
The Deathwatch have some Scanners to find/see Genestealer Infections.
And I have a new favourite joke from Bricky within the first 5 minutes... "they eat Crayons"
In the Last Chancers novel one singular genestealer started a cult which caused the hive city of Coritanorum to rebel in a civil war against the Imperium. All the tanks, guard regiments where fighting for inpdependence. Because of one genestealer. Not even a Patriarch.
Hive fleet Jormungandr is absolutel awesome and I'm glad you mentioned them.
As far as I remember, the first genestealer army list came out about 2 years after the first edition of Space Hulk, in the early/mid-nineties
Oh the happy souls reference made me well happy. Made even better since it is one of my favorite bits from the animation. You phrased that really weird but I know exactly what you're talking about
I like the idea of a novel about a hive fleet that is getting frickin reckt, and they arrive at a planet taken over by genestealers, and there is like a really good genestealer comissar and the tyranids let the genestealer cult live so they help with their superior military tactics
Genestealers “cults” is another way of saying Sussy Alien Cupid
They are literally imposters among us
15:02
As someone who almost exclusively wears jeans, this reality is far more terrifying than getting turned into a tyranid hybrid.
This premiering right as my World Religions class begins! Is this a sign?
Clearly, it means whatever religion you're currently discussing is actually a genestealer cult.
@@n.henzler50 Or worse, GAP
The Shy censor beeps were surprisingly cute.
Still not sure about the meme… but as DK put it; I am probably *spiritually* better off not knowing.
@@auroralee huh?
@@auroralee ..trust me..you don't want to know...you really don't.
Shy is a treasure. Too bad she must already be corrupted. But that just makes her one of us.
Thank you guys for posting your content on youtube. It has made my long work commutes far more tolerable, and has furthered both my knowledge and enjoyment of the 40k lore!
Geanstelers have bean around since RT, they got their info from WD all brought together in the 40K Compilation back in '91, they had their own list in Codes Army Lists (in the 2e Core Box) and had their own army list in the 'nids 2e Codex
@@lazerhosen In 1e the only folks that got their own Codex where the Orcs, who got two sizable hard cover books, and Chaos who got two books they had to shear with Fantasy.
they got as much support as anyone else in 1e.
I miss the Limos
@@lazerhosen back in the late 80's I was a wee lad who mostly used his copy of RT as an RPG, I was at Briz-Con and saw what folks said where the mockups for the 1e Eldar Books and Imperim Books and a stand a lone Chaos book and the Binders with the continence for said books and the WD articles to support the releases, the top/contented 40K & Fantasy players said they already knew what was coming in WD for the next year and a half (and it turned out to be mostly right), but we never got Codex Imperials, Spacemarine, Codex Eldar and the 2nd Eldar book that didn't have a solid name.
Instead about 2 years later we got the 2e boxed set, in my opinion the best version of the 40K table top game.
And Eldar are not a Weeb faction, they are more pre-Late Bronze Age Collapse (Fertile Crescent and Eastern Mediterranean) if you look at their styling and parts of their story. I'd have liked to see them have brought back variant Aspect Warriors in to 2e so I could have used my Laz Canon & Sheriker Canon Dark Reapers (actual Citidel & GW models).
@@lazerhosen with all the power creep of later codexes and stuff from WD articles they needed to do a revised 2e, like Fantasy did with the shift from 4e to 5e too clean things up, not go over to a even worse Melee focused game that was 3e and later ed's.
@@lazerhosen the "Newest" GW game I've played with any regularity is 1e Dark Heresy, but these days I have short runs at Retro games like Necromunda, Mordhime or 1&2e 40K or 4/5 & 6e Fantasy.
Mostly these days my Table top is a Beta of a Fantasy battle game using Printed Minies, I can get a Section (unit) for the cost of a 90's era Blister or box of plastics and not adjusted for inflation, the same guys may be working on a Sic-Fi game and if they do I'll likely formally join the Beta.
@@lazerhosen I kept trying up to 5th ed and have a 6th ed Core book I was given, I keep up on the lore through Novels and borrowing codexs
There was an aeldari crafworld infected, intentionaly to escape Slaanesh.... they were killed by the Ynnari... they had a @@@@@@ Patriarch mixed Avatar
When given three guesses the first guess should always be Alpharius! Second guess is the Alpha Legion.
I love how you guys are covering this at the same time as majorkill.
Shout out to Killdozer. May he watch the roads forever.
Stop signs in 40k probably have Gothic text and a Servo Skull on top that monitors traffic
36:36 i thought you were about to say that the man mowing your lawn was a gene stealer cultist in this hypothetical lol
Shy is doing great work with the editing and the background memes!
ill always remeber that deathwatch story were they send an inquisitor lady to an infected planet to basically get fucked by a prime; "rescued" by deathwatch squad just to be brought back for experiments
I had to google the jar meme and now I know what it is. May the emperor, the chaos gods, Gork and Mork have mercy on my soul
Isn’t weird that last lore video majorkill had was the same subject and this week adric and majorkill do the same subject again are they in kahoots with each other
Yeah I don’t like majorkill, he makes 40k lore sound sooo cringy and aids and makes warhammer look bad. Him and Valrak are a cancer sore in the community. The reason I mention valrak is because he’s just a fat Scottish hype beast that milks overrated content for money. They maybe well known in the community, but they don’t speak for it.
I can understand your point of view but it’s kinda them and balermort are the reason I got into the hobby I think for the sole reason I feel is more accessible but due to majorkill videos I started watching luetin09 and these guys so I still enjoy his videos and I like the prospect of them working together
Other than Imperium, Nids are still my favorite army. This was a great episode for my drive to work todaya. :)
Fun Fact about Genestealer Shenenigans: One time i played with my Word Bearers against Gene Stealers and the genestealer player plopped out his Kellermorph and obliberated not only my Dark apostle Turn 2, but also my buffed up Deamon Prince. Next Turn one of his Psykers mind controlled my Contempetor with double Plasmacannons and overheat shot my Terminators dead and dealt 2 mortal wounds to the contemptor due to rolling ones. But still really fun army with al lot of funny stuff to pull off!
The scariest thing this episode was that picture of Pat as Thor.
There was one GSC eldar maiden world i know of. The other eldar were creeped the hell out by them. Long and short, the tyranids showed up and the non infected eldar noped out of there real fast
You know your DNA is screwed up beyond repair when even Kroot won’t eat you.
HAPPY SOULS REFERENCE
I'VE NEVER PLAYED DARK SOULS 2
but I love you basically got that word for word, I watch that video at least twice a year
Sadly no mention of the Bodguard guy. He'd be there while the Matriarch is having negotiations in the guise of "peace" except when it doesn't go as they want the bodyguard has a little button on his sword that he'd secretly press to give the other party bad juju and extreme agression so the guard can strike them down in the name of "self defense"
This is the only warhammer lore channel that teaches me lore I don’t already know I feel like lol.
The inquisition is doing its job well because I have zero idea what a BEEP jar is.
The guy who did the original Coom Jar project on 4Chan is on youtube and his name is PCJPguy
Someone make a Big iron parody involving the genestealer doming Celestine
Fulgrim in a jar he is gonna get what he deserves ... JUSTICE FOR RYLANOR
explain jar joke pls
@@tylerhub4342 So... a while ago some dude presented a "my little pony" mini inside a jar in which he would cum until completely covered... I'm sorry ....
@@Milk192 why would you say these words to me
@@Milk192 I was sure it had something to do with one man one jar... I'm not sure what is worse.