Fun fact. The A's owner in this movie is played by Bobby Kotick. He's a generally disliked CEO who worked for Activision/Blizzard and made several controversial statements about exploiting their properties to the detriment of new content. I'm sure he thought it was a cute idea to get one of his friends to put him in this movie, but I think the irony of him playing the stifling owner of the A's was a parallel that was missed by him (or maybe not missed, and he really just doesn't care)
The only thing I don't love about this movie is Bobby Kotick being cast in it. He's one of the worst things to happen to Blizzard and videogames in general. He was probably told to just be himself for the role. In spite of all that, it's a great movie. One of my favorites.
and yet, as proven by Bruce Bochy with 4 titles, doesn;t replace the gut feeling. Stats mean nothing if a pitcher;s pitches arent spinning the best, or a hitter is just off a little. Great to refer to..mean nothing in the moment.
My favorite scene was with Billy and Pete in the office negotiating trades before deadline. And Philip Seymour Hoffman as a baseball manager was a revelation - he nailed the role.
The crazy thing is, I remember this happening in real life. The streak was all they were talking about on ESPN SportsCenter at the time, which was refreshing since all they usually talk about is the NFL. Great reaction.
I love this movie, but one thing they got very wrong was the key players on the team Zito Hudson and Mulder were the 3 pitchers that made that team win a lot.
@@txsportsfreak02 They also did Art Howe and Grady Fuson dirty - Art was on board with Billy's approach, and Fuson wasn't fired - he left for an opportunity with the Rangers. But they had to create some tension, and Art and Grady were basically stand-ins for all the naysayers in baseball.
Man, I went back and forth about leaving this comment, I feel a bit Karen-ish. It was actually a dip and not a chew that BP was spitting. But everything you said is on the money. Sorry
Although Aaron Sorkin was brought in to rewrite Zaillian's original script, he liked it so much that he actually didn't change a lot, instead demanding that Zaillian's name receive equal credit.
@@drongobum2037 Zaillian actually had a GREAT 2011 that a lot of people overlook. In addition to MONEYBALL (for which he, Sorkin, and Stan Chervin got co-nominated for Adapted Screenplay at the Oscars), he also wrote the screenplay for David Fincher's version of THE GIRL WITH THE DRAGON TATTOO.
I think she just made the mistake of assuming he was eating something, since we see him snacking in several scenes before that, even on sunflower seeds. Shit, he even eats and then spits out popcorn in another scene lol easy mistake to make.
It wasn't tobacco, it is sunflower seeds. You put a handful of seeds in your mouth and spit out the shells. Keeps your mind busy for all the waiting around you do in baseball lmao
@@brandonhill2183you’re forgetting 4th and 5th starters. That’s where the A’s owned everyone. Whether it was Ted Lilly or Corey Lidle, they were better at the back end of the rotation than anyone else. Also in the early 2000s, the As 1-3 clears the Braves 1-3. Smoltz was in the bullpen by then and Millwood though a very solid starter wasn’t as good as Hudson or Mulder (whoever you want as a 3)
I'm English… I've never liked sport, never watch a baseball game… And I'm generally confused by maths. Yet Moneyball is such a well-made film that I truly love it.!
The Dodgers are moneyball but with money. They find guys from teams that don't want them anymore and put them in spots in the lineup to make them succeed. Guys like Chris Taylor, Max Muncy (former A), Justin Turner, etc. What Billy did pretty much changed how teams value and look at players. It's not just homers and strikeouts any more.
The comedy in this hit so well because baseball guys are generally really actually funny like that. The nature of the game selects for guys with that sort of personality. It’s a game where you fail constantly, you’re traveling all the time from the time you’re 8 years old, trying to go from JUCO to D1 to the SEC to the minors for who knows how long just to get to The Show. Then in a game of failure you have to succeed enough to not get demoted. You don’t last long if you don’t have a good grounded sense of humor
I remember a sports psychologist I once spoke to telling me that Baseball players had either the healthiest or unhealthiest relationship with failure that he's ever by far with very little in between. Just something your comment reminded me of.
Honestly I think the comedy hits because its a Sorkin script, and they randomly cast several comedy giants like Pratt, Hill, etc. without meaning to lol
Glad you're safe, Natalie. The "metaphor" clip is one of my favorite moments in any movie I've ever seen in my entire life. I am a sucker for moments when an underappreciated person succeeds beyond their own expectations. I love that stuff. Brings tears to my eyes.
Natalie mentioned a few excellent points, like how the pace of baseball lends itself really well to movies, and it reminded me of the Patrick H. Willems video essay all about why baseball is the best sport for movies. Moneyball pops up a few times, including with that iconic crack of the bat when Scott hits the home run!
I'd push back on that and say football though. Football has the best of both worlds: once the ball is snapped, it's fast and exciting and chaotic... but before the snap, you have time to build tension, to talk about what happened the previous play and try to predict what will happen this next one.
@ Hit argument is the equipment makes it really difficult to connect with the players (since they all functionally look the same on the field), which is why most football movies are about the coach. The way time works, with the game stopping and starting, also means most football scenes are the big dramatic play before the end of the game. On the other hand, baseball’s moments of quiet tension are one-on-one showdowns, almost like Old West duels. It’s a great video, I highly recommend it!
The scene with Billy and Wash going to Hattie's house is awesome start to finish. The awkwardness, the heart wrenching moment with the daughter, the hilarious "It's incredibly hard", all of it was just great.
Wild! One of my favorite movies, and I love the existing reactions so much that I'll specifically rewatch Moneyball reactions and even put them on occasionally as background watch. Today, I put in the Moneyball search and BOOM....THE Natalie Gold dropped one seconds ago! INSTANT CLICK
But they didn't win it all... They haven't since using what BB did. By the way he wasn't the first to do it this way. Other teams were already using analytics before '02...
There's something about this movie that makes it so re-watchable. I tend to want to always watch a new movie, to experience a new story. But Moneyball is one that... every so often I get the itch and I have to watch it again.
Here in the UK I was part of an under 16s Baseball team. Was an unusual thing in Britain but for me the best years of my childhood. This film was one of my favourites as a kid and remains so. Hits me in the feels big time.
This ranks up there with one of the best baseball movies of all time. Showing how Billie was on the leading edge of using analytics to scout and grade talent in the game is now second nature for all clubs but he was the first to implement. For the Love of the Game is similar in nature to intermixing flashback scenes throughout the movie to tell the story.
Yea it lead to a Kyle schwarber batting .210 leading off for the Phillies because he gets on base and has power. I ain't hating it but the thought of someone leading off batting sub .250 blows my mind. Especially someone with no speed lol it works though 🤷♂️
Great reaction to one of my favorite movies. To your point about Justice aging, there's a part in the book where he flies out to deep outfield, jogs back to the dugout, sits down shaking his head and says "3 years ago that was over the fence..." Some day we're told we can no longer play the child's game. Some are told at age 18 others at 40. But we're all told.
100% my favorite movie and does well show that comedic actors can do really great drama work too. I really don't dig Will Farrell for comedy, but that movie is such a great display of his talents.
I read this book in my undergrad Stats class for extra credit. Then, when I took a job as a high school math teacher, I gave the assignment to my students as well. It went over pretty well.
The most incredible thing about Moneyball is that it exists at all. I'm still in awe that a book about baseball statistics got made into an Oscar-nominated (X6) film.
Thanks, it was fun watching this with you. The directing, cinematography, casting and cast performances were all well done with this film. Even the sound editing was top notch. One of Brad Pitts' finest roles.
The Red Sox owner is the guy who played adult smalls in sandlot. After that season in real life, Billy took the offer. The assistant gm Pete is based on(the real assistant gm had become a gm for another team by the time the movie came out didn’t want his name associated) was going to take over as a’s gm. Since Oakland was letting Billy out of his contract, Boston was going to send Oakland Kevin youkilis(Pete called him the Greek God of walks as a throwaway scene in the movie) but Billy changed his mind. He now has a different job with the a’s, who are going to start playing at their minor league stadium in Sacramento until they get a stadium in Las Vegas. Billy was a player on three teams that won the last game of the season. He started the 86 season with the Mets who won that year and was traded during the year to the twins who won in 87. He was then a player with the a’s in 89 when they won. Art Howe has said he doesn’t like how he was portrayed. He and Billy weren’t best friends but the movie blew their relationship up. That was arts last season with the team
Aaron Sorkin has this wonderful ability to take a subject and breathe a life into it that causes people to feel interested where they weren't before. Something dry like baseball or politics, words that some folks will yawn at the thought of, and without the need for flash, or action, or some over-the-top petty squabbles, he cuts through to why these topics are something that people can feel actual passion toward.
You mentioned that NFL players and MLB are really young. In soccer a lot of players are usually going pro by the age of 17-19. Yamal in Barcelona is for example only 17, and the pressure on these young players is so high. A lot are called failures if you aren’t the star by 24.
NBA probably has the youngest after the one-and-done rule. Guys will play only 1 year of college ball and then get drafted top of the draft and are expected to be franchise cornerstones when they are 20.
It really felt like the 2002 Oakland A's were the "Bad News Bears" of the league just a bunch of rag-tag misfit players but the A's have always been my favorite baseball team. As a little kid I even got a baseball signed by the entire team in either 1991 or 1992 while me and my grandparents attended a game and it's even signed by "The Bash Brothers" Jose Canseco and Mark McGwire.
Fun fact, I think the Twins were about 3-4 rungs above Oakland in total budget. Never been much of a budget on either team. Especially compared to places like NY at the time, and now.
Such an underrated movie. I feel like you should do more baseball movie reactions. Especially each March when everyone is getting excited for baseball's return each year. Field of Dreams, Bull Durham, The Natural, Eight Men Out, The Sandlot, 61*... There are a lot of good ones to cover.
I'ma baseball/hockey/football guy. I remember this as it happened. Sabermetrics (analytics) changed baseball. WaR, OBP+, SLG, no one knew what these were in 2000. People knew batting avg, and ERA. The first scene with all the "old guys"? The message there is quite obvious. "There's a new sheriff in town!"
Such an easy film to rewatch as well. Fun fact, all the older talent scouts in the round table scenes were actual baseball scouts and the head scout was also a former scout turned actor who to this day doesn’t think the statistical method works.
There are so many great baseball movies but for me there are 3 special ones with very different romantic elements. “The Natural”, a fairy tale set between 1910 and the 1930’s, “Field of Dreams”, a story that uses baseball as a theme for family relationships and “Bull Durham”, a comedy that shows how hard the road to The Show can be. All 3 have amazing casts, but a warning - you WILL cry a lot when watching “Field of Dreams”. 😊
This movie is a mood, and I am always down for it. The production design give me that old vintage vibe from a bygone decade, the sound design is clever, the editing and mixing of the historical footage and slow-mos & still shots - inspired, the cinematography and lighting are super engaging, the comedic and awkward bits are filled with such humanity. And then there's the writing, casting, acting, directing. Holy smokes this movie feels like the most interesting "time capsule" about a topic you think you'd care nothing about (except for those who like baseball to start), and then you're completely sucked in. One of my favs.
As someone who doesn't watch baseball even a little, Moneyball stands as a perfect example to me that almost any subject can be turned into a compelling movie, as long as it has a story that's told with heart, and filmed with skill. If you end up wanting something similar, I can't recommend Steve Jobs (2015) enough; it was written by the same guy, and it's yet another incredibly funny, very compelling drama with sharp dialogue. I love Moneyball and I love that one just as much. (Stay safe out in LA! 💜)
Loved your reaction Natalie. Dare I say it was “Golden!” Plus I just think you’re special and genuine. I have been watching you since early on in the Pandemic. One of if not my favorite reactors. Thank you! ❤❤❤
Firstly, good on you Natalie for your donation efforts. Second, I dont know what part of California you live in. but there is a lot of baseball there Dodgers, Giants, Angels( Ron Washington is their manager now), Padres. I encourage you to take in some games. I took my daughters to a Little League game when they were 4,5.6 years old. Then they played and I coached softball for many years. The game is something special we have and share
15:28 it's dip or dipping tobacco not sunflower seeds haha. It turns into liquid in your mouth and you spit it bc it tastes nasty if you accidentally drink it. It's HUGELY common in baseball culture. My brother dipped for years.
3:30 Yes, there's no salary cap and yes, some teams do stay good for awhile, but there also hasn't been a repeat world series winner since the Yankees in 2000.
Off and on, the A's and Raiders shared a stadium because the raiders moved to and from L.A. You could always tell because in September, they would still have part of the baseball diamond on the football field.
This movie is an amalgamation. The fighting between Billy Beane and Art Howe really happened between Sandy Alderson and Tony LaRussa. But the resistance against advanced metrics by all of baseball was real.
I'm surprised and pleased that you did a reaction to Moneyball because I don't think it's your usual type of film. There are other gems out there that I'm sure the fans will help point you to for more reactions. This was an especially good reaction video Nat. Stay golden!
There are 18-19 year olds that play baseball. I'm 42 I stillI couldn't imagine playing in the pros 😂😂 I love baseball and this is one of my top 5 baseball movies. Great reaction ⚾️😎👍
The dialogue. Sorkin ALWAYS brings a type of dialogue that both serves to move the plot, even indirectly, but is just so interesting. There's no need for uncomfortable exposition with Sorkin...you just *know* because you climb *into* the characters via the dialogue.
Part of the reason why this film is so good as it was penned by a little known screenwriter named Aaron Sorkin, who's written a couple of other obscure movies called A Few Good Men, The Social Network, Malice, end some TV shows like The West Wing and The Newsroom.
Fun fact: When Chris Pratt lost a bunch of weight in between filming seasons of Parks and Rec, everyone thought it was for Zero Dark Thirty. But it was actually for his role in Moneyball.
I have a friend who, as a sportswriter in the Bay Area at that time, covered the A’s. He told me this movie was pretty good except that it did a huge disservice to Art Howe, who was not a curmudgeon, as shown in the movie, but was very kind and generous with his time, in particular to young beat writers and taught them about how things worked in MLB.
I really like how even when the team eventually gets success the movie kind of underplays it. It somehow plays the familiar arc of failure to success via a misunderstood hero and yet never really deviates from a middle ground emotionally and lets us wallow in the characters instead (imho).
Moneyball is based off the book written by Michael Lewis. He is a finance author who also wrote The Big Short. He also wrote the Blind Side which made Sandra Bullock win best actress in the Oscars
In case anyone was wondering, the Oakland A's did set the American League record of longest winning streak in 2002 when they won 20 games in a row. However that streak was later broken in 2017 by the Cleveland Indians who won 22 consecutive games. The Major League record however is still held by a National League team, the New York Giants, who had a winning streak of 26 games that was set in 1916.
One of the best things about this movie is it’s enjoyable for non-baseball fans. On top of just being an objectively well-written film, I think even those who know nothing about the game can start to get an understanding of what makes it so great for those of us that grew up loving it.
This is on my short list of "on in the background" movies, I have it on every couple of months while im working as its such a great movie to listen to.
"He hit a homerun and didn't even realize it" is such a powerful metaphor. Billy had fundamentally changed the game forever without realizing it, and every club is now using statistical and competitive analysis of some sort to find gems and hidden talent, and not just in baseball.
Yes, this film is incredible. In my top 10 of all time, deserves more praise and attention. Haven't met a person who doesn't like it. Stay safe Natalie!
Was a little kid in Oakland during this time. My grandparents and my dad would always take my brother and I to A's games and fan events. Used to make the playoffs every single year, look great the first two games of the first round and then always lose the same round. Had a couple of great chances to win it all when I was a teenager and used to watch the games like Billy lol. The owner from old to new gave up trying to win, then the city gave up on the A's. Ironically you can make a part 2 to this,
A lot of old school baseball fans will probably vehemently disagree that Bill James deserves to be in the baseball Hall of Fame but his impact on the game in modern baseball, and sports for that matter, transformed the game of baseball. Like Marvin Miller, James is in a special category of someone who didn't play or manage on a professional level but had a transformative impact on the sport.
most sound that isn't dialogue (and oftentimes dialogue too) is recorded in post production. making sounds to match whats going on screen for a movie is called Foley.
Glad you liked the movie. I love when movies are so good with sound - it really elevates the piece. A little baseball footnote: The Oakland A's are actually no more. The owner and city couldn't agree to a new stadium, so he decided to move the team to Las Vegas. The team will be playing in Sacramento until their new park in Vegas is ready in 2028.
The genius of this movie is the juxtaposition of the romanticism of baseball and the cold nature of what they were trying to do. A good example of this is Jonah Hill’s character explaining the theory with dramatic movie music playing followed by a smash cut to Jonah Hill printing sheets of paper.
I never dreamed of watching Money all, because I have never ever been a baseball fan. But, I stumbled across a clip with Pitt and Hill, and it was their chemistry together got me curious. I watched the whole movie that same night, and was surprised how much I actually liked it.
WOW! A Moneyball reaction. I feel these are pretty rare. I love this film.
Same
Same
I think i've gone through everyone that's reacted to it (at least few months ago) Everyone loved it. They also learned alot.
I instantly clicked
"Do you want me to react to this movie?"
"When I point to you, yes " 😂
Fun fact. The A's owner in this movie is played by Bobby Kotick. He's a generally disliked CEO who worked for Activision/Blizzard and made several controversial statements about exploiting their properties to the detriment of new content. I'm sure he thought it was a cute idea to get one of his friends to put him in this movie, but I think the irony of him playing the stifling owner of the A's was a parallel that was missed by him (or maybe not missed, and he really just doesn't care)
The only thing I don't love about this movie is Bobby Kotick being cast in it. He's one of the worst things to happen to Blizzard and videogames in general. He was probably told to just be himself for the role. In spite of all that, it's a great movie. One of my favorites.
Holy fuck I could have sworn that was him but convinced myself thinking “why tf would he be in this movie playing this dude” wow
@@lohanwanoeight they couldn't find a guy to act like a CEO and he was giving tips and they asked him to be on the movie
Haha omg I’ve heard of him and seen him before but it just didn’t click when I was watching!
"I don't have anymore money" - Bobby Kotick, lol
The statistical analysis, it's so beautiful
Captain Holt, is that you?
@@blong217 that is Captain Raymond Jacob Holt to you, good person/pronoun you feel comfortable with
One of my fav jokes in that funny ah show
and yet, as proven by Bruce Bochy with 4 titles, doesn;t replace the gut feeling. Stats mean nothing if a pitcher;s pitches arent spinning the best, or a hitter is just off a little. Great to refer to..mean nothing in the moment.
Rip
"Maybe I can teach one of them" is the best line of the movie, and apparently it was improvised.
For me it is: "Would you have drafted me in the first round?"
My favorite scene was with Billy and Pete in the office negotiating trades before deadline.
And Philip Seymour Hoffman as a baseball manager was a revelation - he nailed the role.
I don't think there was a role he didn't do perfectly, honestly.
“Yes, I added the “please” at the end.”
His body language alone was a Master class he could have gone the whole movie without saying one word and you would have bought the whole thing 100.
The crazy thing is, I remember this happening in real life. The streak was all they were talking about on ESPN SportsCenter at the time, which was refreshing since all they usually talk about is the NFL. Great reaction.
I love this movie, but one thing they got very wrong was the key players on the team Zito Hudson and Mulder were the 3 pitchers that made that team win a lot.
@@txsportsfreak02 Not to mention a young Tejada and Chavez.
@@txsportsfreak02 They also did Art Howe and Grady Fuson dirty - Art was on board with Billy's approach, and Fuson wasn't fired - he left for an opportunity with the Rangers. But they had to create some tension, and Art and Grady were basically stand-ins for all the naysayers in baseball.
@@mikeweeks694 I forgot about tejada.
@@jonsoule7421 as a die hard rangers fan you think I would remember that. Did he come over when wash came over?
15:37 😂 the answer is chewing tobacco. It’s definitely part of baseball culture. The Sandlot has a great scene about it IMO
Or to hammer home its baseball significance the scene in the naked gun
Man, I went back and forth about leaving this comment, I feel a bit Karen-ish. It was actually a dip and not a chew that BP was spitting. But everything you said is on the money. Sorry
Sandlot has a great scene that especially shows you why gutting the juice over spitting is a HORRIBLE call lol.
@@wisetexanreacts today I learned there is a difference between the two
One of my favorite movies of all time. The Hatteberg home run scene never fails to give me goosebumps
Aaron Sorkin wrote the script. That’s why it’s so great
Along with Steven Zaillian.
Although Aaron Sorkin was brought in to rewrite Zaillian's original script, he liked it so much that he actually didn't change a lot, instead demanding that Zaillian's name receive equal credit.
@@drongobum2037 Zaillian actually had a GREAT 2011 that a lot of people overlook. In addition to MONEYBALL (for which he, Sorkin, and Stan Chervin got co-nominated for Adapted Screenplay at the Oscars), he also wrote the screenplay for David Fincher's version of THE GIRL WITH THE DRAGON TATTOO.
Masterpiece.
Natalie doesn't know what chewing tobacco is. That's so cute.
"there are no seeds, why all the spitting in cups" hahahahah
I think she just made the mistake of assuming he was eating something, since we see him snacking in several scenes before that, even on sunflower seeds. Shit, he even eats and then spits out popcorn in another scene lol easy mistake to make.
It wasn't tobacco, it is sunflower seeds. You put a handful of seeds in your mouth and spit out the shells. Keeps your mind busy for all the waiting around you do in baseball lmao
What is overlooked in this movie is that Oakland had the best pitching staff in baseball this season.
Plus Eric Chavez and Miguel Tejada.
Yep. Zito, Hudson, and Mulder. Not as good as Maddux, Glavine, and Smoltz....but close
It’s a major oversight. Hudson, Mulder, and Zito were young cheap studs. It should get some mention on why they had the success. U
@@brandonhill2183you’re forgetting 4th and 5th starters. That’s where the A’s owned everyone. Whether it was Ted Lilly or Corey Lidle, they were better at the back end of the rotation than anyone else.
Also in the early 2000s, the As 1-3 clears the Braves 1-3. Smoltz was in the bullpen by then and Millwood though a very solid starter wasn’t as good as Hudson or Mulder (whoever you want as a 3)
Pretty much just a cameo for Bradford, too.
I'm English… I've never liked sport, never watch a baseball game… And I'm generally confused by maths. Yet Moneyball is such a well-made film that I truly love it.!
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The Dodgers are moneyball but with money. They find guys from teams that don't want them anymore and put them in spots in the lineup to make them succeed. Guys like Chris Taylor, Max Muncy (former A), Justin Turner, etc. What Billy did pretty much changed how teams value and look at players. It's not just homers and strikeouts any more.
The comedy in this hit so well because baseball guys are generally really actually funny like that. The nature of the game selects for guys with that sort of personality. It’s a game where you fail constantly, you’re traveling all the time from the time you’re 8 years old, trying to go from JUCO to D1 to the SEC to the minors for who knows how long just to get to The Show. Then in a game of failure you have to succeed enough to not get demoted.
You don’t last long if you don’t have a good grounded sense of humor
I remember a sports psychologist I once spoke to telling me that Baseball players had either the healthiest or unhealthiest relationship with failure that he's ever by far with very little in between. Just something your comment reminded me of.
Honestly I think the comedy hits because its a Sorkin script, and they randomly cast several comedy giants like Pratt, Hill, etc. without meaning to lol
@@KS-xk2so lol sure man nothing exists until somebody writes it, right?
It is a very humbling sport
@@curtisw502 it’s a game where you have to be able to lose to be able to win. If you can’t find the humor in that you picked the wrong sport 😂
Glad you're safe, Natalie.
The "metaphor" clip is one of my favorite moments in any movie I've ever seen in my entire life. I am a sucker for moments when an underappreciated person succeeds beyond their own expectations. I love that stuff. Brings tears to my eyes.
Natalie mentioned a few excellent points, like how the pace of baseball lends itself really well to movies, and it reminded me of the Patrick H. Willems video essay all about why baseball is the best sport for movies. Moneyball pops up a few times, including with that iconic crack of the bat when Scott hits the home run!
I'd push back on that and say football though. Football has the best of both worlds: once the ball is snapped, it's fast and exciting and chaotic... but before the snap, you have time to build tension, to talk about what happened the previous play and try to predict what will happen this next one.
@ Hit argument is the equipment makes it really difficult to connect with the players (since they all functionally look the same on the field), which is why most football movies are about the coach. The way time works, with the game stopping and starting, also means most football scenes are the big dramatic play before the end of the game. On the other hand, baseball’s moments of quiet tension are one-on-one showdowns, almost like Old West duels. It’s a great video, I highly recommend it!
The scene with Billy and Wash going to Hattie's house is awesome start to finish. The awkwardness, the heart wrenching moment with the daughter, the hilarious "It's incredibly hard", all of it was just great.
Wild! One of my favorite movies, and I love the existing reactions so much that I'll specifically rewatch Moneyball reactions and even put them on occasionally as background watch. Today, I put in the Moneyball search and BOOM....THE Natalie Gold dropped one seconds ago! INSTANT CLICK
Aaron Sorkin is simply a brilliant writer. A Few Good Men, The Social Network, The West Wing, Sports Night, The News Room, ...
All time great.
this is one of those "winning against all odds" movies and a wholesome one at that!
Ironically, literally playing the odds. :)
But they didn't win it all... They haven't since using what BB did. By the way he wasn't the first to do it this way. Other teams were already using analytics before '02...
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There's something about this movie that makes it so re-watchable. I tend to want to always watch a new movie, to experience a new story. But Moneyball is one that... every so often I get the itch and I have to watch it again.
Here in the UK I was part of an under 16s Baseball team. Was an unusual thing in Britain but for me the best years of my childhood. This film was one of my favourites as a kid and remains so. Hits me in the feels big time.
Look up the Hatteberg HR, and you will see how well Pratt did with it. All the mannerisms and the swing are spot-on. Great, great movie.
They splice in actual footage of Hattie, too, seamless!
One of those comfort films you can watch anytime - anywhere! Must have seen it 50 times..
This ranks up there with one of the best baseball movies of all time. Showing how Billie was on the leading edge of using analytics to scout and grade talent in the game is now second nature for all clubs but he was the first to implement. For the Love of the Game is similar in nature to intermixing flashback scenes throughout the movie to tell the story.
Yea it lead to a Kyle schwarber batting .210 leading off for the Phillies because he gets on base and has power. I ain't hating it but the thought of someone leading off batting sub .250 blows my mind. Especially someone with no speed lol it works though 🤷♂️
"Wash" who told the truth about how hard it is to learn first base is Ron Washington. Absolute LEGEND in the coaching game.
Really?? Then you haven’t watch Game 6 & 7 of the 2011 WS then, huh.
Great reaction to one of my favorite movies. To your point about Justice aging, there's a part in the book where he flies out to deep outfield, jogs back to the dugout, sits down shaking his head and says "3 years ago that was over the fence..."
Some day we're told we can no longer play the child's game. Some are told at age 18 others at 40. But we're all told.
Can’t say this enough. “Stranger than fiction” is an amazing movie and i think you would love it. Right up your alley.
Yes!
100 times yes! So underrated!
Such a good movie
One of the best of all time
100% my favorite movie and does well show that comedic actors can do really great drama work too. I really don't dig Will Farrell for comedy, but that movie is such a great display of his talents.
"I got goosebumps"
Welcome to baseball, only one sport like it.
one month away from 'pitchers - catchers'!!
i only get that from the movies not the actual game. but its probably cause I never actually watch the game and just drink beer lol
I read this book in my undergrad Stats class for extra credit. Then, when I took a job as a high school math teacher, I gave the assignment to my students as well. It went over pretty well.
One of the excellent movies adapted from Michael Lewis’ books. Along with The Big Short and The Blind Side.
"In Cleveland where they have money." My Heart!
Doesnt matter what sport you like this movie is a classic and ticks many boxes
The most incredible thing about Moneyball is that it exists at all. I'm still in awe that a book about baseball statistics got made into an Oscar-nominated (X6) film.
Thanks, it was fun watching this with you. The directing, cinematography, casting and cast performances were all well done with this film. Even the sound editing was top notch. One of Brad Pitts' finest roles.
The Red Sox owner is the guy who played adult smalls in sandlot. After that season in real life, Billy took the offer. The assistant gm Pete is based on(the real assistant gm had become a gm for another team by the time the movie came out didn’t want his name associated) was going to take over as a’s gm. Since Oakland was letting Billy out of his contract, Boston was going to send Oakland Kevin youkilis(Pete called him the Greek God of walks as a throwaway scene in the movie) but Billy changed his mind. He now has a different job with the a’s, who are going to start playing at their minor league stadium in Sacramento until they get a stadium in Las Vegas. Billy was a player on three teams that won the last game of the season. He started the 86 season with the Mets who won that year and was traded during the year to the twins who won in 87. He was then a player with the a’s in 89 when they won. Art Howe has said he doesn’t like how he was portrayed. He and Billy weren’t best friends but the movie blew their relationship up. That was arts last season with the team
I went to High School with Hattebergs daughter. Pretty cool family. Just normal people
Aaron Sorkin has this wonderful ability to take a subject and breathe a life into it that causes people to feel interested where they weren't before. Something dry like baseball or politics, words that some folks will yawn at the thought of, and without the need for flash, or action, or some over-the-top petty squabbles, he cuts through to why these topics are something that people can feel actual passion toward.
Great movie. Great reaction! It was a Michael Lewis book, same as the big short and the blind side.
Now it's time for the football version of this, "Draft Day" with Kevin Costner!
You mentioned that NFL players and MLB are really young. In soccer a lot of players are usually going pro by the age of 17-19. Yamal in Barcelona is for example only 17, and the pressure on these young players is so high. A lot are called failures if you aren’t the star by 24.
She was talking about real sports....;)
@@nathanlindahl8336 Hahah, sure man
NBA probably has the youngest after the one-and-done rule. Guys will play only 1 year of college ball and then get drafted top of the draft and are expected to be franchise cornerstones when they are 20.
@@nathanlindahl8336Didn't know advertisement ball was a real sport 😂
baseball players are usually a bit older when they make the bigs - it takes till they are 24-25 to learn the game enough
Shout out to the editor of this video! So smooth with the bat sound effect/Natalie's chef's kiss, rain overlay with Boston, etc. Well done!
It really felt like the 2002 Oakland A's were the "Bad News Bears" of the league just a bunch of rag-tag misfit players but the A's have always been my favorite baseball team. As a little kid I even got a baseball signed by the entire team in either 1991 or 1992 while me and my grandparents attended a game and it's even signed by "The Bash Brothers" Jose Canseco and Mark McGwire.
"why are we spitting in cups" 🤦♂
It's nice to see this movie getting some love all these years later. One of Pitt's least talked about roles, but one of his best IMO.
My absolute favorite movie of all time that I rewatched just two days ago but I'm glad to rewatch it with you again today.
Fun fact, I think the Twins were about 3-4 rungs above Oakland in total budget. Never been much of a budget on either team. Especially compared to places like NY at the time, and now.
Thanks for the reaction, Natalie!!! I love this movie!
Such an underrated movie. I feel like you should do more baseball movie reactions. Especially each March when everyone is getting excited for baseball's return each year. Field of Dreams, Bull Durham, The Natural, Eight Men Out, The Sandlot, 61*... There are a lot of good ones to cover.
I'ma baseball/hockey/football guy. I remember this as it happened. Sabermetrics (analytics) changed baseball. WaR, OBP+, SLG, no one knew what these were in 2000. People knew batting avg, and ERA. The first scene with all the "old guys"? The message there is quite obvious. "There's a new sheriff in town!"
Such an easy film to rewatch as well. Fun fact, all the older talent scouts in the round table scenes were actual baseball scouts and the head scout was also a former scout turned actor who to this day doesn’t think the statistical method works.
There are so many great baseball movies but for me there are 3 special ones with very different romantic elements. “The Natural”, a fairy tale set between 1910 and the 1930’s, “Field of Dreams”, a story that uses baseball as a theme for family relationships and “Bull Durham”, a comedy that shows how hard the road to The Show can be. All 3 have amazing casts, but a warning - you WILL cry a lot when watching “Field of Dreams”. 😊
Sandlot to round out the Mt Rushmore of Baseball Movies
I can watch this movie over and over... so much detail. Thanks for the reaction!
This movie is a mood, and I am always down for it. The production design give me that old vintage vibe from a bygone decade, the sound design is clever, the editing and mixing of the historical footage and slow-mos & still shots - inspired, the cinematography and lighting are super engaging, the comedic and awkward bits are filled with such humanity. And then there's the writing, casting, acting, directing. Holy smokes this movie feels like the most interesting "time capsule" about a topic you think you'd care nothing about (except for those who like baseball to start), and then you're completely sucked in. One of my favs.
As someone who doesn't watch baseball even a little, Moneyball stands as a perfect example to me that almost any subject can be turned into a compelling movie, as long as it has a story that's told with heart, and filmed with skill.
If you end up wanting something similar, I can't recommend Steve Jobs (2015) enough; it was written by the same guy, and it's yet another incredibly funny, very compelling drama with sharp dialogue. I love Moneyball and I love that one just as much.
(Stay safe out in LA! 💜)
Loved your reaction Natalie. Dare I say it was “Golden!” Plus I just think you’re special and genuine. I have been watching you since early on in the Pandemic. One of if not my favorite reactors. Thank you! ❤❤❤
imo one of brad's best roles, some of his best emotive scenes
Firstly, good on you Natalie for your donation efforts. Second, I dont know what part of California you live in. but there is a lot of baseball there Dodgers, Giants, Angels( Ron Washington is their manager now), Padres. I encourage you to take in some games. I took my daughters to a Little League game when they were 4,5.6 years old. Then they played and I coached softball for many years. The game is something special we have and share
After being traded from the As...Carlos Peña played for the Tigers from 2002 to 2005 and was an All-Star with the Tampa Bay Rays in 2009
I love underdog sport movies, I don't know much about baseball but when Chris Pratt hit the home run 😭😭
15:28 it's dip or dipping tobacco not sunflower seeds haha. It turns into liquid in your mouth and you spit it bc it tastes nasty if you accidentally drink it. It's HUGELY common in baseball culture. My brother dipped for years.
Was just gonna reply yeah it’s either chew or dip or snuff
Love this movie and thanks for all the positivity. Really love your channel.
3:30 Yes, there's no salary cap and yes, some teams do stay good for awhile, but there also hasn't been a repeat world series winner since the Yankees in 2000.
Off and on, the A's and Raiders shared a stadium because the raiders moved to and from L.A. You could always tell because in September, they would still have part of the baseball diamond on the football field.
This movie is an amalgamation. The fighting between Billy Beane and Art Howe really happened between Sandy Alderson and Tony LaRussa.
But the resistance against advanced metrics by all of baseball was real.
Art Howe is done a lil dirty by the movie, he was 100% on board, but they needed some antagonism for the plot.
Art Howe deserves to be recognised for how on board he truly was!
Stumbled across this video... Top notch!! Nice insight and great comments as you're watching it. Excellent.
I'm surprised and pleased that you did a reaction to Moneyball because I don't think it's your usual type of film. There are other gems out there that I'm sure the fans will help point you to for more reactions. This was an especially good reaction video Nat. Stay golden!
There are 18-19 year olds that play baseball. I'm 42 I stillI couldn't imagine playing in the pros 😂😂 I love baseball and this is one of my top 5 baseball movies. Great reaction ⚾️😎👍
This was a nice surprise for me. I recognized the Sorkin script right away. Terrific stuff. Thanks!
The dialogue. Sorkin ALWAYS brings a type of dialogue that both serves to move the plot, even indirectly, but is just so interesting.
There's no need for uncomfortable exposition with Sorkin...you just *know* because you climb *into* the characters via the dialogue.
Part of the reason why this film is so good as it was penned by a little known screenwriter named Aaron Sorkin, who's written a couple of other obscure movies called A Few Good Men, The Social Network, Malice, end some TV shows like The West Wing and The Newsroom.
You are awesome! Thank you for caring about California ❤
Fun fact: When Chris Pratt lost a bunch of weight in between filming seasons of Parks and Rec, everyone thought it was for Zero Dark Thirty. But it was actually for his role in Moneyball.
I have a friend who, as a sportswriter in the Bay Area at that time, covered the A’s. He told me this movie was pretty good except that it did a huge disservice to Art Howe, who was not a curmudgeon, as shown in the movie, but was very kind and generous with his time, in particular to young beat writers and taught them about how things worked in MLB.
I really like how even when the team eventually gets success the movie kind of underplays it. It somehow plays the familiar arc of failure to success via a misunderstood hero and yet never really deviates from a middle ground emotionally and lets us wallow in the characters instead (imho).
Moneyball is based off the book written by Michael Lewis. He is a finance author who also wrote The Big Short. He also wrote the Blind Side which made Sandra Bullock win best actress in the Oscars
In case anyone was wondering, the Oakland A's did set the American League record of longest winning streak in 2002 when they won 20 games in a row. However that streak was later broken in 2017 by the Cleveland Indians who won 22 consecutive games.
The Major League record however is still held by a National League team, the New York Giants, who had a winning streak of 26 games that was set in 1916.
OMG my favorite movie! There's so few reactions to Moneyball around. So excited for this one.
nat is coming with the straight bangers lately. im glad to see it
One of the best things about this movie is it’s enjoyable for non-baseball fans. On top of just being an objectively well-written film, I think even those who know nothing about the game can start to get an understanding of what makes it so great for those of us that grew up loving it.
Definitely check out "Invictus" great film about rugby in apartheid south Africa with Morgan Freeman as Nelson Mandela.
This movie always gets some tears out of me. Great reaction, Natalie!
I never get tired of watching this film.Such an enjoyable experience.
This is on my short list of "on in the background" movies, I have it on every couple of months while im working as its such a great movie to listen to.
"He hit a homerun and didn't even realize it" is such a powerful metaphor. Billy had fundamentally changed the game forever without realizing it, and every club is now using statistical and competitive analysis of some sort to find gems and hidden talent, and not just in baseball.
Yes, this film is incredible. In my top 10 of all time, deserves more praise and attention. Haven't met a person who doesn't like it. Stay safe Natalie!
Yes! Please do more Sorkin movies
Moneyball, The Social Networks, and Steve Jobs are the three movies that make me feel wowed in the end. The story, music, script, all of it.
Was a little kid in Oakland during this time. My grandparents and my dad would always take my brother and I to A's games and fan events. Used to make the playoffs every single year, look great the first two games of the first round and then always lose the same round. Had a couple of great chances to win it all when I was a teenager and used to watch the games like Billy lol. The owner from old to new gave up trying to win, then the city gave up on the A's. Ironically you can make a part 2 to this,
During that 20-game win streak, I was in attendance for wins 18 and 19. What a great time it was to be an A's fan.
A lot of old school baseball fans will probably vehemently disagree that Bill James deserves to be in the baseball Hall of Fame but his impact on the game in modern baseball, and sports for that matter, transformed the game of baseball. Like Marvin Miller, James is in a special category of someone who didn't play or manage on a professional level but had a transformative impact on the sport.
Great reaction Natalie! Love baseball and love your channel, keep it up! Baseball movies are great!
most sound that isn't dialogue (and oftentimes dialogue too) is recorded in post production. making sounds to match whats going on screen for a movie is called Foley.
Glad you liked the movie. I love when movies are so good with sound - it really elevates the piece. A little baseball footnote: The Oakland A's are actually no more. The owner and city couldn't agree to a new stadium, so he decided to move the team to Las Vegas. The team will be playing in Sacramento until their new park in Vegas is ready in 2028.
Lamine Yamal is 17 playing for Barcelona and Spain.
The “WE MAY NEVER LOSE AGAIN” sign makes me laugh so much
Great film
**throws chair**
2:17 How can you not be romantic about baseball? 😂
The genius of this movie is the juxtaposition of the romanticism of baseball and the cold nature of what they were trying to do.
A good example of this is Jonah Hill’s character explaining the theory with dramatic movie music playing followed by a smash cut to Jonah Hill printing sheets of paper.
Secretly one of the most rewatchable movies of all time.
Another rare gem you need to watch is Margin Call. It's a MONSTER cast.
I never dreamed of watching Money all, because I have never ever been a baseball fan. But, I stumbled across a clip with Pitt and Hill, and it was their chemistry together got me curious. I watched the whole movie that same night, and was surprised how much I actually liked it.