I never heard that church was for the believers until I heard reformed preaching. I always heard to bring your unsaved friends to church to be saved and I understood it to mean the church people would “save” them not the preaching of the Word. So grateful for those who preached the word on the radio. I found that God is sovereign and that changes everything.
It's never too late to learn. During covid, I've learned much from these men of God. Thank you for giving your life to teach us the true way, and the true God.
Denz Sumaylo Amazing how in just a couple of weeks, God has moved to shut down all these seeker-friendly and the heretical churches via Covid corona virus. I know the true churches are also shut down but at least Christians have our bibles we can turn to and listen to sound preaching online....
This is what the Lord showed me clearly..that the church is for the believers and should have worship and preaching that glorify Him...it's not for the unbeliever...
My dad always told me.....unsaved do not belong in the church... they need to be saved before entering.... AND.... you don't take a dead body into the church for funerals..... God considers it unclean...
Kathleen A Granny Off Her Rocker, You don't know what you are talking about... Even the apostles themselves cannot know who are the true believers and the make-believers in the church....That's why Jesus commanded His disciples to preach the gospel to all creatures.... I don't think that Calvinist is the true church of the believers because they are teaching the wrong doctrine of John Calvin....
@@darant2249, Do you think that your dad knows more than the apostles themselves? None of the apostles knew who are the true believers and the make-make believers... otherwise they expelled right away Ananias and Sapphira... Besides the assembly of the Calvinist is not the true Church because they follow the evil teaching of John Calvin the murderer....
Amen RC Sproul! The church is for Christian’s. Not for evangelism. I’ve been trying to get Christian pastors to understand this for years. They don’t want to hear it.
When churches do not teach personal/friendship evangelism the average Christian thinks his job is to bring people to church to be saved. Most Christians I know were not saved in a church.
I love God and i learn directly from God. I can't worship a human when I can directly seek answers from God. God revealed to me the truth about my sufferings and how to overcome that to attain liberation. But being a normal human it is not easy to follow everything that God revealed. I fail sometimes but now I know what I have to do about my liberation. God is the best guide.
I hope this blesses some... 🙏 I was 5 years of chronic illness! I was Semi Housebound, lost my health, job, finances and my fiance left me. I couldn't even look at electronic screen for 5 minutes, or hold a 10-minute conversation. But God did an amazing work. I now have a Christian Channel where I encourage people and show them what God did in my life and that there is hope for you also. ✝️🔥😊 *Keep believing even when it's hard* 🙏❤️🔥 *All things are possible with God*
I felt walloped a bit hearing this at first because I thought I was seeker sensitive,but then I realised I’m actually open door policy.I think that is biblically supported.
I’m a bit confused at MacArthur saying there were no more believers added it’s in Acts 5:13-14.. verse 14 says otherwise.. I’m scratching my head I’m confusion. Help pls.
No one who was an unbeliever took it upon themselves to join with the believers in Solomon's Colonnade nevertheless God kept adding to the church those who were saved. Compare and consider, the believers continued meeting together they didn't change anything to draw in the unsaved, the fear of God was upon them so no one dared join them unless they were believers also. The Lord kept adding to the believers as He pleased as the apostles went about preaching the Word and miracles were wrought by them. They didn't compromise the truth and God displayed His power through them to attest to the truthfulness of their message. It was confirmatory as a sign, this is the way, the way was and is the preaching of the Gospel, the Good News about Jesus Christ. Jesus did the miracles through them and they were careful to tell the people it was Him and done in His name not because of any greatness or holiness in them. Jesus Christ is the Way.
PTL, 🙋♀The question is asked, how do we understand biblically “seeking” GOD? Allow the word of GOD to speak for itself. According to Jeremiah 29:13 KJV And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart. Matthew 6:33 KJV, But seek ye first the kingdom of GOD, and his righteousness; and these things shall be added unto you. The gospel is not meant to accommodate mankind in their sins, but to lead mankind out of darkness to the light of Christ by REPENTANCE, to be BORN AGAIN spiritually to live a new life in Christ… John 3:7KJV, The same as John the Baptist and Jesus taught, it still stands true today❗God changes not, neither does his word… Malachi 3:6 KJV, 🙏🙏
Seek the kingdom of God FIRST that his RIGHTEOUSNESS is FREELY ADDED UPON YOU. That's the reason to seek his KINGDOM his way of thought his tactics. His final will.
Even then, making unbelievers to feel comfortable will not draw them to Christ it's only teh gospel of salvation throuigh Christ including a call to repantance from sin that teh Holy Spirit uses to draw them. Thsi is not what they are doing.
He will.gather his elect His elect call out to him day and night You did not choose me i choose the disciples No man can come to me unless the Father draws Him Yes he obviously did.
Too many Southern Baptists worship (and put ahead of God and His Wor d) the Southern Baptist doctrine before the Bo le. This is an idol which is breaking the first comma nmendment.
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS SEEKER SENSITIVE CHURCH IN THE BIBLE.... YOU ARE ALL ARGUING ABOUT YOUR MAN-MADE THEOLOGY.... LEARN THIS ONE THING: MARK 16:15-20(KJV) 15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. 17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. 19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God. 20 And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.
+grantorino 2009.Jesus said.."Seek ye FIRST the Kingdom of God and HIS Righteousness." Jesus said to Seek Him FIRST. He Speaks for Himself. He did not tell me to seek the bible or Paul. You seek whoever you please..But I Seek Jesus. He showed me the bible verses that are helpful to me and those to leave alone. I am in Gods Hands. Your judgment means nothing to me.
+timon mills..you are Not my judge. Jesus speaks to me everyday of my life. Jesus said.."Obey My Commandments and Seek ME Everyday for your Provision.". That is what I do..exactly as Jesus asked. That is the Will Of God. Jesus Never said Paul was coming with a different gospel and that I should seek him. I do not worship idols. I worship Jesus..Alone. Worship Paul all you please. Fine by me. I Obey Jesus..Not men.
+Alyanna Asumen..it was Paul who said the bible was "god breathed".. because he wrote most of the NT. but Jesus did not say the bible was "god breathed"...nor a lot of other things Paul said either. Jesus said..Follow ME. You have made Paul your god. You are worshipping idols when you worship your bible and your men.
Oh, my goodness, Kathleen. Jesus Christ revealed himself to humanity through the "God breathed" Bible and it's his revelation to mankind. Paul is his servant, and a spokesman for Christ. Please re-evaluate your position of enmity toward Holy Scripture and the Apostles.
+Saved_by_Grace..I am a follower of Jesus Christ..and He said to Seek Him. I Do and He is my Teacher. I am certainly going to believe Him before i believe you..but thank you anyway.
This guy's adding to Acts 5 to the story of "adding to the church " because of Annanias & Sufira. This man us adding man made doctrine to the Bible. Revelation 22 states "if any man adds or takes away from this book he will be eternally cursed".
But it's true. God purged hypocrites from the church by making Annanias and Sufira an example. These are the seeker-sensitive groups in the church. I think that conclusion is in that passage and it's not man-made. Read Acts 5
+Katy A: TheOrganizedPlanner..you do not need to be sad at all. I have read the Entire Bible with Help for every word..With Jesus. He is the One Who Showed me what was important for me to Know and what was not. I marked the verses He showed me and I re-read those and any others He shows me. You have no idea my relationship I have with my Savior..You judge where you have no business. And I certainly believe Him before I am going to be concerned with your opinion..but you are forgiven.
+Alyanna Asumen..Paul does not teach the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Jesus teaches His Gospel in Matthew first 7 chapters. Paul teaches his own gospel and it is not what Jesus teaches. I will Stay with Jesus. But thank you for your comment.
kathleen Wharton, You said: ''Paul does not teach the Gospel of Jesus Christ.'' Now I know that it is NOT Jesus that is talking to you but the devil...The devil likes you very much because you are a self-righteous person...
+Bo Linam.. Thank you for your comment. I read the bible..every word. But I read with Jesus Help. Jesus Helped me know the verses that were important for me and those I marked and read. Much of my bible is unmarked..but I Trust Jesus.. and I leave the rest of it alone. Just because Paul was wordy..does not make him right! I am not really interested in what he thinks. Jesus did have me mark some in Paul's writings so I know there is some value there. But I have learned in my life to Trust Jesus Alone. I am very cautious of the words on men..in the bible or out!
Jesus never taught about church order, spiritual gifts, etc. Why? Because for one, the church had not been established yet. Secondly, he commissioned his apostles to teach and make disciples. Paul was a commissioned Apostle with all rights...
Every word of the Bible is God's word. It's wrong to pick and choose what verses you choose to believe and not believe. Yes, the Bible was written by men. But under the divine inspiration of God. That's why it's called God's word not Peter's, John's, Paul's, etc.
Everyone is listening to Paul. No one is listening to Jesus. Jesus said.."Obey My Sayings and Seek ME Everyday for your Provision and the Father will Deliver you from Evil." Jesus did Not say..Seek the bible. Jesus did Not say..Seek Paul. Jesus did Not say.. Seek the church. The whole Purpose and Plan of Salvation is in the first seven chapters of Matthew. Jesus is Emmanuel..meaning "God With us." He is in our own mind and heart. When We seek Him..He gives us our provision. He is the Only Truth for us. Jesus spoke to the people in the bible..but they are no more worthy than we are. Jesus speaks to me personally everyday Truth for me. Why would I live to what He told some bible person?? You people have Totally missed the Whole idea..of Jesus.
Jesus was speaking to believers when He said that. And to that point, WE would be seeking Him, because we have been regenerated and justified at that point. And John 1 says, The word was God and is God, so seeking the “Bible” IS seeking God. Paul wrote more of the NT than any other person, so would we not look to his writings from a “seeking” standpoint? Not saying we worship or seek Paul himself, but we should seek the knowledge and teachings that God used in Paul’s life. Learn to read your bible in its totality. Let scripture interpreter scripture, and read it in its context. (I’m not trying to speak down to you, just trying to point to the flaw in thinking).
2 Timothy 3:16-17. "All scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be competent, equipped for every good work." I would like to address what you said that why would you "live" to what [Jesus] told some "Bible person". Those Bible persons who wrote the gospels were inspired by God's Spirit and it is because of them that we know who Jesus is today. Only the Bible contains the most powerful claim of Jesus Christ and God used actual people to write those things so we can know more about who Jesus is and believe Him. There is no contradiction in the Bible. Most people say it does but only with the Holy Spirit's guide can one truly understand its meaning.
Kathleen Wharton.....I am so, so sad for you. :( You truly don't worship Christ Jesus. You pick and choose what to read in the Bible and think that's what Jesus leads you to. Jesus is the Word. Read the beginning of the book of John (and then continue the rest). Have you read Acts? Where Christ sends His disciples out to teach? Please read your whole Bible....and pray for wisdom. It is my sincere hope for you...because you *truly* have missed out on knowing Jesus. He's not a "whole idea"...He is God.
Katy A: TheOrganizedPlanner I do read the whole Bible. Too many times to count. If you're not reading the espitles. You are the one pick and choosing. I do thank you for your prayers. I can use all the prayers you can give. God bless.
+ZoneFighter1.. I am not a catholic..they have too much fluff and error..but Christians are no better. I am a Follower of Jesus Christ..purely and truly. Jesus never said anything about appointing apostles..nor did He ever say Paul would be coming with a different and better Way than Himself. Paul was a Pharisee and he did what Pharisees do..appoint himself and make his own laws. It is fine with me if you want to follow Paul and his law but I follow Jesus..simply, purely and truly. Jesus is the Way. Not Paul. I do not care what the catholic church or any other church does.. You guys can fight your church battles forever!
Yes, you're right that it is Jesus whom we should all be seeking, and even Paul's letters are addressed to that. He didn't write those letters to the churches to take their attention away from Jesus but to ultimately DIRECT THEIR FOCUS BACK TO HIM, THE LORD JESUS CHRIST, because people tend to be easily distracted. We are all on the same stand point, sister, that Jesus is the way, the truth and the life and it is only thru Him that we should be saved and only in Him should we abide everyday, but I think you're missing the point of the letters written by other apostles which are meant to support the Gospel and not take its essence away. We are not judging anyone, just helping each other out as fellow believers of the Lord Jesus.
Also, just to clarify what you said about Paul, he was completely transformed spiritually when he had an encounter with Jesus and that led him to change and leave his ways as a Pharisee and follow Jesus instead. Remember that he was one of the most "zealous" person to persecute believers back then, so why would he suddenly fight for the same cause which he was fighting against in the first place if he wasn't completely changed during his encounter with thr Lord? He was for Jesus and not against Him.
you have allllllloooooooot to learn my friend. Col 1;1 and Acts chp 9 paul conversion. A lot more, read your bible cause I'm sure jesus don't and will never speak to you. But he did Paul.
How could anyone make a joke about someone being killed by God and going to Hell like MacArthur does in this video? Very disturbing. The audience thought it was pretty funny. I see no humor in people dying lost and going to Hell.
He made a reference to the amt. of time between Ananias and Saphiras' deaths, esp. the length of a church service. He didn't laugh the audience did. He was emphasizing the attitude we must have toward God and how it is God not man that adds to the church. In Psalm 2 we do read how God laughs at those who mock and rail against Him.
+Saved_by_Grace..Jesus Never said one thing about Paul establishing any church..Paul commissioned himself. Jesus definition of "church" is "revelation" to each and every person individually. That is how Peter "knew" Jesus was the Christ..through "revelation" to Peter. Jesus definition of church was Not a group of people with a hierarchy. You really need to go to Jesus for some Help understanding Him.. He never said Paul was going to come along and change His Gospel to a "better way." Your saved by grace fairy tale is not going to save you. That is Not Jesus Gospel.
I never heard that church was for the believers until I heard reformed preaching. I always heard to bring your unsaved friends to church to be saved and I understood it to mean the church people would “save” them not the preaching of the Word. So grateful for those who preached the word on the radio. I found that God is sovereign and that changes everything.
It's never too late to learn. During covid, I've learned much from these men of God. Thank you for giving your life to teach us the true way, and the true God.
Amen. God used Covid to interrupt the lives of many Christians to stop playing church, myself included.
Thank you .. I'm having chills all over my body when I heard this ..
Denz Sumaylo Amazing how in just a couple of weeks, God has moved to shut down all these seeker-friendly and the heretical churches via Covid corona virus. I know the true churches are also shut down but at least Christians have our bibles we can turn to and listen to sound preaching online....
God is so very good, I've never seen the Annias & Sapphira incident in that light.
Amen.
My dear Brother.
See you on the other side.
This is what the Lord showed me clearly..that the church is for the believers and should have worship and preaching that glorify Him...it's not for the unbeliever...
My dad always told me.....unsaved do not belong in the church... they need to be saved before entering.... AND.... you don't take a dead body into the church for funerals..... God considers it unclean...
Kathleen A Granny Off Her Rocker, You don't know what you are talking about... Even the apostles themselves cannot know who are the true believers and the make-believers in the church....That's why Jesus commanded His disciples to preach the gospel to all creatures.... I don't think that Calvinist is the true church of the believers because they are teaching the wrong doctrine of John Calvin....
@@darant2249, Do you think that your dad knows more than the apostles themselves? None of the apostles knew who are the true believers and the make-make believers... otherwise they expelled right away Ananias and Sapphira... Besides the assembly of the Calvinist is not the true Church because they follow the evil teaching of John Calvin the murderer....
@@josephdurraz8574 obviously you do.
@@darant2249, You said: ''obviously you do.'' What do I do obviously? Are you in your right mind?
Glory to God.
Excellent! Praise be unto our LORD for Truth!
Amen, R.C.!! I've been saying this for years!!
These lovely people are speaking about the true church.
Finally...Yes Yes Yes...Amen Amen Amen...
Praise God
AMEN, JAKE! PRAISE GOD!
Thank you very much for this! :)
Unfortunately, this is a huge problem in my church as well. :/
Well said RC
Amen RC Sproul! The church is for Christian’s. Not for evangelism. I’ve been trying to get Christian pastors to understand this for years. They don’t want to hear it.
When churches do not teach personal/friendship evangelism the average Christian thinks his job is to bring people to church to be saved. Most Christians I know were not saved in a church.
Amen to this!
It's an eye opener discussion
By the goodness of God, RC was our generation's Spurgeon, Edwards, Luther, ect... This small tibit of the Q&A is no small blessing.
Saw your comment while listening, wow I’m baffled by this man’s God given wisdom and ease to answer this types of questions
Spot on Sarah. Very well put ma'am. We are so blessed to have had these giants. 🙏🙏🙏❤
Thank you! Jesus.... Lift me up and I will draw men to me.... Not events, Rock n Roll, etc.
Holding on to the form
SPOT ON!
I love God and i learn directly from God. I can't worship a human when I can directly seek answers from God. God revealed to me the truth about my sufferings and how to overcome that to attain liberation. But being a normal human it is not easy to follow everything that God revealed. I fail sometimes but now I know what I have to do about my liberation. God is the best guide.
Amen
I love this man honestly and God didn't put no halt to miracles you need the holy spirit
He had it 😁
very well said.
I hope this blesses some... 🙏
I was 5 years of chronic illness! I was Semi Housebound, lost my health, job, finances and my fiance left me. I couldn't even look at electronic screen for 5 minutes, or hold a 10-minute conversation.
But God did an amazing work.
I now have a Christian Channel where I encourage people and show them what God did in my life and that there is hope for you also. ✝️🔥😊
*Keep believing even when it's hard* 🙏❤️🔥
*All things are possible with God*
I felt walloped a bit hearing this at first because I thought I was seeker sensitive,but then I realised I’m actually open door policy.I think that is biblically supported.
I’m a bit confused at MacArthur saying there were no more believers added it’s in Acts 5:13-14.. verse 14 says otherwise.. I’m scratching my head I’m confusion. Help pls.
No one who was an unbeliever took it upon themselves to join with the believers in Solomon's Colonnade nevertheless God kept adding to the church those who were saved. Compare and consider, the believers continued meeting together they didn't change anything to draw in the unsaved, the fear of God was upon them so no one dared join them unless they were believers also. The Lord kept adding to the believers as He pleased as the apostles went about preaching the Word and miracles were wrought by them. They didn't compromise the truth and God displayed His power through them to attest to the truthfulness of their message. It was confirmatory as a sign, this is the way, the way was and is the preaching of the Gospel, the Good News about Jesus Christ. Jesus did the miracles through them and they were careful to tell the people it was Him and done in His name not because of any greatness or holiness in them. Jesus Christ is the Way.
Amen. 🔥🙌🏼🥰
Amen.
PTL, 🙋♀The question is asked, how do we understand biblically “seeking” GOD? Allow the word of GOD to speak for itself. According to Jeremiah 29:13 KJV And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart. Matthew 6:33 KJV, But seek ye first the kingdom of GOD, and his righteousness; and these things shall be added unto you. The gospel is not meant to accommodate mankind in their sins, but to lead mankind out of darkness to the light of Christ by REPENTANCE, to be BORN AGAIN spiritually to live a new life in Christ… John 3:7KJV, The same as John the Baptist and Jesus taught, it still stands true today❗God changes not, neither does his word… Malachi 3:6 KJV, 🙏🙏
Love sproul
Thank you this is amazing! Is there any Spanish subtitled or translation of this video?
Seek the kingdom of God FIRST that his RIGHTEOUSNESS is FREELY ADDED UPON YOU. That's the reason to seek his KINGDOM his way of thought his tactics. His final will.
Poor attempt at speculation .. just read the bible God didn’t stop anything you just ain’t reading right. First person that spoke right on point.
The message doesn't get any more clear than those two statements. I did get a surge in my body from what I believe is the Holy Spirit! 🙏
Jeremiah 29: 11-13 is the truth on this subject.
Even then, making unbelievers to feel comfortable will not draw them to Christ it's only teh gospel of salvation throuigh Christ including a call to repantance from sin that teh Holy Spirit uses to draw them. Thsi is not what they are doing.
I wonder if Jesus preached the “reformed” gospel.🤔
He will.gather his elect
His elect call out to him day and night
You did not choose me i choose the disciples
No man can come to me unless the Father draws Him
Yes he obviously did.
Too many Southern Baptists worship (and put ahead of God and His Wor d) the Southern Baptist doctrine before the Bo le. This is an idol which is breaking the first comma nmendment.
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS SEEKER SENSITIVE CHURCH IN THE BIBLE.... YOU ARE ALL ARGUING ABOUT YOUR MAN-MADE THEOLOGY.... LEARN THIS ONE THING: MARK 16:15-20(KJV) 15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.
20 And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.
There's a difference between evangelism and church.
+grantorino 2009.Jesus said.."Seek ye FIRST the Kingdom of God and HIS Righteousness." Jesus said to Seek Him FIRST. He Speaks for Himself. He did not tell me to seek the bible or Paul. You seek whoever you please..But I Seek Jesus. He showed me the bible verses that are helpful to me and those to leave alone. I am in Gods Hands. Your judgment means nothing to me.
kathleen Wharton, Where do you think you can find JESUS if not from the bible? From your imagination?
"The Lord will add to church that which his sovereign will calls" John MacArthur? You sound very much like a Calvinist.
Tony 9419 Acts 2:47
go look up the Holy Book.
Book of isaiah state learn RIGHTEOUSNESS make it grow up before you like wild flowers do.
+timon mills..you are Not my judge. Jesus speaks to me everyday of my life. Jesus said.."Obey My Commandments and Seek ME Everyday for your Provision.". That is what I do..exactly as Jesus asked. That is the Will Of God. Jesus Never said Paul was coming with a different gospel and that I should seek him. I do not worship idols. I worship Jesus..Alone. Worship Paul all you please. Fine by me. I Obey Jesus..Not men.
+Alyanna Asumen..it was Paul who said the bible was "god breathed".. because he wrote most of the NT. but Jesus did not say the bible was "god breathed"...nor a lot of other things Paul said either. Jesus said..Follow ME. You have made Paul your god. You are worshipping idols when you worship your bible and your men.
Are you a Muslim? That's their same reasoning...How do you know Jesus' or any words of the Old Testament were from God.
So the Bible isn't from God?
It's not worshipping the Bible to hold it to a high standard. The Bible is absolute truth. It is God's word. ALL OF IT!
@@davidevans3492
Amen, David!
Oh, my goodness, Kathleen. Jesus Christ revealed himself to humanity through the "God breathed" Bible and it's his revelation to mankind. Paul is his servant, and a spokesman for Christ. Please re-evaluate your position of enmity toward Holy Scripture and the Apostles.
+Saved_by_Grace..I am a follower of Jesus Christ..and He said to Seek Him. I Do and He is my Teacher. I am certainly going to believe Him before i believe you..but thank you anyway.
This guy's adding to Acts 5 to the story of "adding to the church " because of Annanias & Sufira. This man us adding man made doctrine to the Bible. Revelation 22 states "if any man adds or takes away from this book he will be eternally cursed".
But it's true. God purged hypocrites from the church by making Annanias and Sufira an example. These are the seeker-sensitive groups in the church. I think that conclusion is in that passage and it's not man-made. Read Acts 5
John McArthur 😂😂😂
+Katy A: TheOrganizedPlanner..you do not need to be sad at all. I have read the Entire Bible with Help for every word..With Jesus. He is the One Who Showed me what was important for me to Know and what was not. I marked the verses He showed me and I re-read those and any others He shows me. You have no idea my relationship I have with my Savior..You judge where you have no business. And I certainly believe Him before I am going to be concerned with your opinion..but you are forgiven.
+Alyanna Asumen..Paul does not teach the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Jesus teaches His Gospel in Matthew first 7 chapters. Paul teaches his own gospel and it is not what Jesus teaches. I will Stay with Jesus. But thank you for your comment.
You're wrongly convicted about your understanding of the New Testament or Paul's ministry..
Paul got his commission directly from Jesus on the road to Damascus. How can you say he's teaching his own gospel?
Wow.
kathleen Wharton, You said: ''Paul does not teach the Gospel of Jesus Christ.'' Now I know that it is NOT Jesus that is talking to you but the devil...The devil likes you very much because you are a self-righteous person...
+Bo Linam.. Thank you for your comment. I read the bible..every word. But I read with Jesus Help. Jesus Helped me know the verses that were important for me and those I marked and read. Much of my bible is unmarked..but I Trust Jesus.. and I leave the rest of it alone. Just because Paul was wordy..does not make him right! I am not really interested in what he thinks. Jesus did have me mark some in Paul's writings so I know there is some value there. But I have learned in my life to Trust Jesus Alone. I am very cautious of the words on men..in the bible or out!
Jesus never taught about church order, spiritual gifts, etc. Why? Because for one, the church had not been established yet. Secondly, he commissioned his apostles to teach and make disciples. Paul was a commissioned Apostle with all rights...
Every word of the Bible is God's word. It's wrong to pick and choose what verses you choose to believe and not believe. Yes, the Bible was written by men. But under the divine inspiration of God. That's why it's called God's word not Peter's, John's, Paul's, etc.
Breath vitch
Everyone is listening to Paul. No one is listening to Jesus. Jesus said.."Obey My Sayings and Seek ME Everyday for your Provision and the Father will Deliver you from Evil." Jesus did Not say..Seek the bible. Jesus did Not say..Seek Paul. Jesus did Not say.. Seek the church. The whole Purpose and Plan of Salvation is in the first seven chapters of Matthew. Jesus is Emmanuel..meaning "God With us." He is in our own mind and heart. When We seek Him..He gives us our provision. He is the Only Truth for us. Jesus spoke to the people in the bible..but they are no more worthy than we are. Jesus speaks to me personally everyday Truth for me. Why would I live to what He told some bible person?? You people have Totally missed the Whole idea..of Jesus.
Jesus was speaking to believers when He said that. And to that point, WE would be seeking Him, because we have been regenerated and justified at that point. And John 1 says, The word was God and is God, so seeking the “Bible” IS seeking God. Paul wrote more of the NT than any other person, so would we not look to his writings from a “seeking” standpoint? Not saying we worship or seek Paul himself, but we should seek the knowledge and teachings that God used in Paul’s life.
Learn to read your bible in its totality. Let scripture interpreter scripture, and read it in its context. (I’m not trying to speak down to you, just trying to point to the flaw in thinking).
2 Timothy 3:16-17. "All scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be competent, equipped for every good work."
I would like to address what you said that why would you "live" to what [Jesus] told some "Bible person". Those Bible persons who wrote the gospels were inspired by God's Spirit and it is because of them that we know who Jesus is today. Only the Bible contains the most powerful claim of Jesus Christ and God used actual people to write those things so we can know more about who Jesus is and believe Him. There is no contradiction in the Bible. Most people say it does but only with the Holy Spirit's guide can one truly understand its meaning.
Reading the Pauline epistles is reading God's word. God gave him the words to write.
Kathleen Wharton.....I am so, so sad for you. :( You truly don't worship Christ Jesus. You pick and choose what to read in the Bible and think that's what Jesus leads you to. Jesus is the Word. Read the beginning of the book of John (and then continue the rest). Have you read Acts? Where Christ sends His disciples out to teach? Please read your whole Bible....and pray for wisdom. It is my sincere hope for you...because you *truly* have missed out on knowing Jesus. He's not a "whole idea"...He is God.
Katy A: TheOrganizedPlanner I do read the whole Bible. Too many times to count. If you're not reading the espitles. You are the one pick and choosing. I do thank you for your prayers. I can use all the prayers you can give. God bless.
+ZoneFighter1.. I am not a catholic..they have too much fluff and error..but Christians are no better. I am a Follower of Jesus Christ..purely and truly. Jesus never said anything about appointing apostles..nor did He ever say Paul would be coming with a different and better Way than Himself. Paul was a Pharisee and he did what Pharisees do..appoint himself and make his own laws. It is fine with me if you want to follow Paul and his law but I follow Jesus..simply, purely and truly. Jesus is the Way. Not Paul. I do not care what the catholic church or any other church does.. You guys can fight your church battles forever!
Yes, you're right that it is Jesus whom we should all be seeking, and even Paul's letters are addressed to that. He didn't write those letters to the churches to take their attention away from Jesus but to ultimately DIRECT THEIR FOCUS BACK TO HIM, THE LORD JESUS CHRIST, because people tend to be easily distracted. We are all on the same stand point, sister, that Jesus is the way, the truth and the life and it is only thru Him that we should be saved and only in Him should we abide everyday, but I think you're missing the point of the letters written by other apostles which are meant to support the Gospel and not take its essence away. We are not judging anyone, just helping each other out as fellow believers of the Lord Jesus.
Also, just to clarify what you said about Paul, he was completely transformed spiritually when he had an encounter with Jesus and that led him to change and leave his ways as a Pharisee and follow Jesus instead. Remember that he was one of the most "zealous" person to persecute believers back then, so why would he suddenly fight for the same cause which he was fighting against in the first place if he wasn't completely changed during his encounter with thr Lord? He was for Jesus and not against Him.
you have allllllloooooooot to learn my friend. Col 1;1 and Acts chp 9 paul conversion. A lot more, read your bible cause I'm sure jesus don't and will never speak to you. But he did Paul.
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How could anyone make a joke about someone being killed by God and going to Hell like MacArthur does in this video? Very disturbing. The audience thought it was pretty funny. I see no humor in people dying lost and going to Hell.
James Adkins, MacArthur and all the Calvinist are not true believers because they believe and teach the evil doctrine of John Calvin....
He made a reference to the amt. of time between Ananias and Saphiras' deaths, esp. the length of a church service. He didn't laugh the audience did. He was emphasizing the attitude we must have toward God and how it is God not man that adds to the church. In Psalm 2 we do read how God laughs at those who mock and rail against Him.
+Saved_by_Grace..Jesus Never said one thing about Paul establishing any church..Paul commissioned himself. Jesus definition of "church" is "revelation" to each and every person individually. That is how Peter "knew" Jesus was the Christ..through "revelation" to Peter. Jesus definition of church was Not a group of people with a hierarchy. You really need to go to Jesus for some Help understanding Him.. He never said Paul was going to come along and change His Gospel to a "better way." Your saved by grace fairy tale is not going to save you. That is Not Jesus Gospel.
kathleen Wharton wow I can’t believe what I’m reading here. So the grace of God is not enough huh?? Good luck with that!
Jesus was quite clear on the broad way.