They have drones ;) To be honest I liked the fact that cops almost didnt cared if I killed somebody, why should they? Thye only care about corporate overlords. Feel of lawlessness in Night city was real plus for me. Even if it was a bug ;)
Preorders, , mail-in voting weeks before elections or even debates, it almost seems like it's a bad idea to apply selection without waiting to get the best idea for whether something is going to be good. How long do you think it will be before you're urged to "pre-order" the movies that a film company plans to release on a given year, with more content like extra scenes offered to people who do?
@@Venneroth Modded movies that are milked for re-skins and patches. I'm betting that's coming in a few years. As some have pointed out, Cat's the movie essentially had a day-1 patch when it came out.
Im sick of everyone acting like fundamentally mismanaged projects can be made into masterpieces if they just "delayed it a little bit more." If you make a cake with all the wrong ingredients and it comes out like crap, putting it back in the oven isn't gonna do anything.
Actually here's the difference. A cake is a physical object made of matter. Once you arrange the molecules into a particular form, it is impossible for you to then rearrange those molecules. A video game on the other hand is software. It's lines of code. It can be remade and fixed. It can be polished and upgraded forever. So your analogy doesn't actually work here.
Yeah,miss that too. These days its mostly political rants and streams with unrelated/unengaged filler gameplay. Still waiting for that Tenchu retrospective.
@@strugglesnuggledslime7040 But good rants even if they are political. These are crazy times and we need his political rants as much as we need his reviews if not more.
Same, thought the idea was cool but when it started becoming years between showing footage (most of which was pre rendered or heavily stylized) i just became uninterested and decided to wait for release before caring
Exactly, after 2018 i stopped watching anything about it. After i played what felt like a short campaign my friend streamed his playthrough, and lowe and behold it was the same storyline even though he picked a different role. I then realized there was no variation to the life paths and rewatching old trailers just made me more disappointed at what it should've been.
@Char Aznable It's not even a two-party system. It's a one-party system, the one party is the Establishment, it pretends to be a two-party system. They use the two-party system as an excuse for why nothing gets done, but the minute something effects the Establishment those "Parties" unify pretty damn quickly. It's like professional wrestling, it sells the illusion of some big match between the good guy and the bad guy, but at the end of the day it doesn't matter who wins. It's all a show, behind the curtain they're all in on it.
Well , design-wise it cant be patched because it is shitty designed . Better buy deus ex Human revolution and mankind divided. Those games makes you feel like a real cybernetic killing machine.
This kind of plays into why any game that claims to try and bring a tabletop experience will always fall short (with the possible exception of CRPGs). Just one gun option in a game needs to have a model built, textures made, animations made, sound assets assigned, lighting added for firing, physics programmed for things such as ejected bullet cases and recoil and if a game has weapon customization then all of those need to be made compatible with every possible version of the weapon that can be crafted/discovered as well as coding being assigned for things such as drop/spawn rates and the like. A tabletop system just needs a line of stats in a book somewhere and maybe a picture and a small bit of flavor text if you're feeling really fancy. Now that's just for weapons, apply that to any other mechanic or system that a dev wants to convert from tabletop and you'll see why comparative shallowness is frankly an inevitability in just about any PC/console game (and why anything attempting such will no doubt take ages and suffer from bloat during development), tabletop games can have 200 times the weapons but that's also because it takes about 200 times less work to implement them.
Just putting this out there, this game is more accurately described as Far Cry 2077. The Irony of that statement? Far Cry made a better cyberpunk game with Blood Dragon, a fucking spinoff they didn't even sell for full price. But there is a silver lining, Deus Ex has never had a better market to return to. And I have to thank you, Razör for convincing me to pull the trigger on Human Revolution and Mankind Divided, some of the best games I've played.
Deus Ex is a great franchise. I really liked Human Revolution, what with all the plot twists and revelations. They were really executed well. Hopefully we get to see the sequel to Mankind Divided in the near future.
My theory is once Keanu was brought on they scraped a lot of content and forced him into the narrative. While everyone is focused on bugs not as many people are focusing on the amount of content this game is lacking not just what was promised but basic things that have been in games like these since Saints Row / GTA.
The game also doesn't really feel like "cyberpunk", I get almost no cyberpunk vibes from this game at all. It's like the devs understanding of the setting begins and ends with cyber implants. Also, no Synthwave! They even made a statement that there would be no Synthwave in the game, because it's "too glossy and shiny" and they wanted dark and gritty. Massive irony, considering Cyberpunk 2077 is the most milk toast and tame Cyberpunk setting I've ever seen.
The games up to a decade ago were made by those who grew up playing table top RPGs in the 70s and the 80s. Video games today are made by those who played those video games produced in the 90s and 00s. Now we have actual good game design twice removed from its source and I daresay that's the reason why everything is shit now.
Maybe. But I bet the corporate marketeers who "designed" this game never touched a video game in their lives. Whatever the developers did wrong, they likely knew well in advance that they made a turd. I came to tabletop very late in life, but I would have known enough to try to find somebody who understood the source material.
People who design RPGs shouldn’t touch RPG development until they’ve sat down for an extensive Tabletop campaign and played both Oblivion and Morrowind at the least. I’m sure other can suggest other titles of interest here.
@@Sellipsis Oblivion? No thanks. Lest the second half of the game becomes "oh You liked that one cool thing? Here's seventeen of those, have """""fun""""" with those!"
The worst thing about Cyberpunk is that when I played it, I could see a good game, under a pile of garbage and errors, like Destiny 2, It feels like some A-hole from ubisoft-acti-blizz-AE mutilated a good game. But it's just CDPR to blame, getting a big head after W3 made some pesos.
I'd say it's more the higher ups that were to blame for this. The devs were basically under the gun from the get go and maybe needed another year to get it right, perhaps outright cancelling the older gen versions. I guess now it's just a waiting game for whatever patch comes our way to put shit back in.
@@DawnOfTheOzz nah man the devs are to blame, in fact everyone at CDPR is, they announced this in 2012, one year before GTA V came to 360 and ps3, in all that time they couldn’t produce a stable game for the consoles they promised it would release on, it’s just a sad affair of how they came out to be.
@@DawnOfTheOzz "Just one more year of redesigning" if you fuck up the ingredients of the cake just baking it for triple the time isn't going to fix anything
Ritual was the only station I'd listen too, I'd flip every once in awhile to the other rock station and it might have something decent... Tell me how a game with "Punk" in the title didn't have a Punk station?
@Zoomer Waffen "Comics exploring cyberpunk themes began appearing as early as Judge Dredd, first published in 1977. Released in 1984, William Gibson's influential debut novel Neuromancer would help solidify cyberpunk as a genre, drawing influence from punk subculture and early hacker culture."
My favorite defense of this game is people saying that the game is only glitching because it was meant for the new consoles despite the fact the game started development before the current generation was released and originally set to release before we officially knew the names of the new consoles.
Right? thats some high grade copium those people are spewing. ffs even in the apology video that Martin guy said "old gens" as if the new generation has been out for a few years now.
I've played this game for over a hundred hours on PC. Five minutes of that time, at most, can be allocated to glitches. It's as if you don't want to give this game its due. Weird.
@@mattehcat One of my friends and myself have both had this game crash several times, and it caused a straight up blue screen on my friend's machine. He encountered a bug that soft locked him in the story and forced him to load an older save as well. Both of us on PC.
Funnily enough I was convinced this would be the RPG that would never be topped. Considering only two percent of your choices matter and the first half life’s cockroach has better AI not a joke there is an online comparison. Even early 2000 games had better physics and open worlds.
Atp, I think I’m totally content to play nothing but fighting games and modded Oblivion for the rest of my days. There’s no point in getting excited over new game releases. The only game i’m remotely excited about is Avowed because it’ll be Obsidian directly competing against Bethesda’s ES games but considering how everyone now talks about Outer Worlds I’m skeptical on it as well.
@@devonjames7999 Nah, fighting games are doing fine rn. The only issue is potential future lack of funding because Corona killed the tournament scene. But people are still playing the games and new characters are being released for them. I Dont't even sit there and say shit about Mortal Kombat. Idc, I don't play it and it's like the one fighter besides DOA that's really fucked up in the past few years. There's like 15 other fighters out right now that all have people playing them.
Even their previous game, Witcher 3, had better rpg mechanics to the story. Hilarious how they managed to screw up something that they already made work before.
@@Sellipsis play samurai showdown my guy its probably one of the best fighter on the market. No auto combos, no gimic mechanics, just. Most fightters have turned into aggressive button mashers . Skill matters less and less to be " more inviting to non fighter gamers or non gamers in general I have always heard of complaints that fighters are "too hard" well now they are too damn easy just relying on mashing and mechanics to win. No one wants to use spacing and actually think about how to open up their opponents and pace out and attacks to bate you opponents. No just mash till their thumbs cramp out.
@@AlfredFJones1776 Oh please. You suckers spent 3 years sucking off this garbage and threw a hissy-fit over anybody showing the slightest skepticism. Grow up.
It really is devastating to think that they pushed the game out the door just to make the 4th quarter earnings report when all it needed to become the actual masterpiece hinted at by its premise was, like, mere 5 more years of development.
A game with no coherent vision can't be fixed with delays. It's the same problem Anthem had. They had no idea what they were making so they had to scramble in the last year to make SOMETHING playable.
@@mariokarter13 Well, "mere 5 years of development" does indeed refer to another full development cycle. They seem to have had an idea at some point, but two partial production reboots and subsequent rush to release tend to make things murky at least bit.
@@cyberdystopia6029 if delays and extra years of development time, or hell even a complete remaking, made diamond level games, what the fuck was duke nukem forever. Delays do NOT FIX broken core principles of the game design process in a studio.
You didn't get what he was talking about,did you? Bugs are least problem this game has. Bugs can be patched. Totally misplaced, mised concept can't without making a new game from scratch.
Not going to mention the elephant in the room? The photo of the Witcher 3 dev team versus the Cyberpunk 2077 dev team (that I suddenly can't find, lol) and how diverse one is compared to the other?
Have you played Dredd vs Death? Pretty good FPS game. Yeah,a new Dredd game would be fantastic. I am wondering,however,if playing as Dredd in Mega-City One would lend itself pretty well to RPG mechanics.
They'll only ruin it and make you wish it hadn't happened. *Here - Let me help:* Dredd was actually an overweight, XY chromosome, non binary, bisexual black teenager with leftist ideals and a penchant for anti establishment activism I stopped "wanting things" in 2008. Apathy can be awesome when its a *conscious choice* 😂
Your game reviews are some of the best. Your take the scattered pieces of my brain screaming "WTF is this?!" and you turn them into all the right words!
The new “open world” games are creeping back to linear, story driven games- which is fine, but the developers need to just be honest with themselves, and us, and embrace what they’re really trying to do. Otherwise they’re not really satisfying anyone.
I rather games go back to more linear levels like Crash Bandicoot 4 than to be open world bore fests like any GTA clone outthere with a gazillion sidequests that are all copy and pasted.
Maybe if they stopped using graphics as a scapegoat, they could be pressed to add more actual RPG mechanics or other actual customization options. For Elder Scrolls for example, you could take Oblivion and just download some texture mods. Boom, you have a game that looks like Skyrim (if not better depending on the mods) with better gameplay.
Me watching the teaser trailer in 2012: "I really hope they can pull this off." Me speaking across time and space to my past self from 2022: "Do not trust to hope, it has forsaken these lands."
@@asycore yeah except RDR2 didn't even spend half of the time spent by the CP2077 just hyping itself up. i barely heard crap about RDR2 until about a year or so from release. i've been hearing Cyberpunk and its fans fellating it for about the last 3 years it feels like.
Quick note: the teaser trailer dropped in 2012 yes, but they only started developing this game after the last Witcher 3 DLC, so... 2018. Doesn't make it any better to be honest: let's put 2 years on an overhyped game, what could go wrong?
If Razor actually played the whole game he'd have much better reasons to hate it. Like spending 60 hours of gameplay to get to a skill tree perk that doesn't even work.
Cyberpunk 2077 does at least one good thing when you start playing it. It makes you want to stop playing it and play Deus Ex instead, and theres no bad time to be had when you do that.
They actually took one of the social stats from the tabletop versions ("Cool") and made it into the stealth attribute in this game (and there is actually a stealth skill in the TTG, called "Stealth" under the "Reflexes" stat in 2020 and in the "Dexterity" stat in RED). It's baffling how they just cut all the stats and skills away that would have made this an RPG. No actual "Cool", no "Empathy", no "Willpower", no "Attractiveness". It's like they just took the name and the general aesthetics and decided that let's cash in on the (then) emerging synthwave "style". I've grown to dislike these so called RPGs with premade, pre-attituded characters where my input is purely in which combat skills I pick.
@@YT1300MF Indeed. These level systems are basically just another type of ammunition or weapon, nothing more, when you break them down to their core parts.
7:27 That one hurts a lot, this was the perfect game for a synthwave soundtrack; Perturbator, Lazerhawk, Mega Drive, Miami Nights 1984, etc. And all we end up getting is fucking wub-wub dubstep, because the trends of the early-2010s refuse to die just like the grunge mentality of the 90's refuses to die. There's a reason why Never Fade Away and Chippin' In are the stand-out songs in the soundtrack among the licenced stuff and the ones made for the game, because even if they fall more on the Rage (not) Against The Machine side of things rather than Exodus or W.A.S.P, they define better the overall spirit of the setting better than mumble rap, run-of-the-mill wub wub and generic Indie rock will ever do.
@Viceroy Fizzlebottom Carpenter Brut and Perturbator would have been a perfect fit for combat OST, better than re-using fucking Dubstep You know, maybe there is a clear cut between the 2: corpo-backed Dubstep/Indie Rock/mumble rap, and edgerunner Synthwave and Metal
Maybe game devs should take notice and only start to tease a game when the development is nearing completion. Don't give the hype train time to derail. And definitely don't tease features or mechanics unless you're 120% sure that you can make them work. We should've learned this after No Man's Sky's launch. At least they were dedicated enough to go back and fix their game, but most aren't.
I used to describe this game as the GTA version of Deus Ex but, even then, that description is fairly insulting to Deus Ex since the "journey" taken by your character amounts to very little. The core narrative is so stagnant that the side-quests actually feel more like the game they were trying to make when it comes to memorable characters, interesting story hooks and the overall future noir vibe. The greatest insult to Deus Ex? You can complete this game without using a single augmentation. Not even once.
To me, any kind of game based on Cyberpunk 2020 will always be a GTA clone no matter how hard some scream, mainly thanks to the myriad details on vehicles in general throughout the core and various supplemental books for the tabletop game.
I haven't played Cyberpunl 2077, so I can't and I'm not commenting on the guilty of the game. That said finishing a cyberpunk rpg without using any augmentations isn't a bad concept. Just like being able to finish a fantasy rpg without using the magic system isn't in itself bad, because it gives the player agency on what type of character they want to play as. Where this would come a problem is if the augmentations or the magic system didn't have any impact on the gameplay and were just aesthetics to look cool.
@@IamaCosmonaut " Where this would come a problem is if the augmentations or the magic system didn't have any impact on the gameplay and were just aesthetics to look cool." Are you sure you haven't played Cyberpunk 2077?
I haven't played Cyberpunk 2077, but my friend group are about to start up a Shadowrun campaign because the cyberpunk genre is "big" again and we also want a new TTRPG to play so at the very least, CDPR's dumpster fire inadvertently brought me to a different game I think I'll enjoy a lot more.
It sounds like how Deus Ex was in early development when it was called "Troubleshooter," but without the part where Warren Spector realized that the idea was mostly bad and scaled back his ambitions a little bit to focus on what actually worked.
Are modders even going to touch this game? Bethesda had modders in mind for years before Skyrim even started development, and modders still had to do a ton of back-end crap to even get their foot in the door.
@@yaryar5828 Well given that there are already about several hundred modifiers on the Nexus site for shit like car handling, cheats, shaders, cosmetics, audio, control tweaking, and more, I'd say they're more than willing to at least achieve Payday 2 levels of modability.
"Bitch, I've seen more signs of life on the Biden voter roles" Accurate. It was really sweet how on he went straight for the Tomb of the Unknown Voter to lay a wreath on inauguration day, tho.
11:31 "We all know that this game is more busted than Janice Dickinson's face..." In addition to that line: "...and just as busted as Sylvester Stallone's mother."
This game truly helped me understand more time on a game doesn't not = a good game. It also helped me realize I have far better things to do with my time than video games. You can be learning a skill with the time you play video games. I use to play games for 5 hours a day. Cyberpunk opened my eyes and now I play maybe 5 hours a week. The rest is spend painting and doing hobby crafting.
8:15 Anthony Fantano contributing to cyberpunk seems plausible considering that they put e-celebs like CohhCarnage and Alanah Pearce into this disasterpiece.
A FUCKING ZAO INTRO?! FROM THEIR MOST CLASSIC ALBUM?! A FUCKING GENRE DEFINING ALBUM AT THAT?! AND THE ORIGINAL, NOT THE SHITTY RE-RECORDING?! Holy fuck, Razor. Just sweet holy fuck. Amazing, dude.
Most insightful comment was this: “Cyberpunk isn’t dystopian hi-tech futurism. It’s dystopian hi-tech futurism based on the cultural, aesthetic, philosophic, and geopolitical trajectories of the 1980s. The further removed from those we get, the less authentic new titles in the genre become.”
Makes me laugh when pc fanboys attempt to convince themselves it's just console problems. This game is terrible without glitches the city is boring and lifeless and the combat is flat. Poor story and endless tired dialogue.
@@Sellipsis Skyrim has actual opportunity for roleplaying, this game doesn't... Therefore, Skyrim is a better RPG even if it isn't a good one in its own right.
This was the first and only game I ever pre-ordered thinking "It's CD Project Red they made the Witcher 3 one of the best games made in recent years there's no way this can turn out bad right?" and I got burned so bad.
The biggest issue for me was just how fuckin' empty NC feels most of the goddamn time! Here's hoping modders can make this game the masterpiece it should've been.
I can't fault CD for not being super futuristic with Cyberpunk. After all they are Polish and we are only now discovering compact fluorescent light bulbs.
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"A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad."
And a game with no coherent vision can't be fixed with delays.
Truth.
too bad this game was delayed AND bad.
The new thing should be "If a game needs to be delayed, the problem isnt the polish"
@@CUSTARDP00DLETK The problem was the Polish this time...I’ll see myself out.
Sounds nice, but is it true?
I present to you: the original StarCraft.
*"the illusion of choice"*
... Sounds pretty lifelike to me
*[Fahrenheit 451 intensifies]*
Too deep brah...
honestly, great reply.
Most depressing comment of 2021 so far.
@@MaxPayneInTheAss That's what he said.
Of course the cops in the future don't have cars Razor, they were defunded.
They have drones ;) To be honest I liked the fact that cops almost didnt cared if I killed somebody, why should they? Thye only care about corporate overlords. Feel of lawlessness in Night city was real plus for me. Even if it was a bug ;)
Who needs cars when you have Goku's Instant Transmission?
LMFAO
@@podfuk To be fair you can order a drone from the internet for 100 bucks apiece.
@@SeekerMissile Amen. Fat fucks need a little less donut munching
And this, boys and girls, is why you never preorder.
Fuck you I'm preordering Warhammer 3
Preorders, , mail-in voting weeks before elections or even debates, it almost seems like it's a bad idea to apply selection without waiting to get the best idea for whether something is going to be good.
How long do you think it will be before you're urged to "pre-order" the movies that a film company plans to release on a given year, with more content like extra scenes offered to people who do?
@@taylorcrikes1902 Don't do it, man. For all we know, they're just gonna re-skin existing armies and wait for modders to do the rest.
I preordered it, Steam refunded it without a minute of play.
@@Venneroth Modded movies that are milked for re-skins and patches. I'm betting that's coming in a few years.
As some have pointed out, Cat's the movie essentially had a day-1 patch when it came out.
You're just mad because they replaced you with Keanu Reeves.
lol, rekt.
Oof: 100
Heart cold stunner
Shots fired!
BODYBAG 😤 GET EM TF OUTTA HERE 🤣
Im sick of everyone acting like fundamentally mismanaged projects can be made into masterpieces if they just "delayed it a little bit more."
If you make a cake with all the wrong ingredients and it comes out like crap, putting it back in the oven isn't gonna do anything.
Cyberpunk 2077: MovieSlob's Mountain Dew chicken of video games.
Actually here's the difference. A cake is a physical object made of matter. Once you arrange the molecules into a particular form, it is impossible for you to then rearrange those molecules. A video game on the other hand is software. It's lines of code. It can be remade and fixed. It can be polished and upgraded forever. So your analogy doesn't actually work here.
@@TheKrensada Yeah but thats what cd project did with cyberpunk lol.
Oh shit this is a classic style. Haven't seen one of these things in a while, good to go back to some video game reviewing roots every now and then.
He is the best
Holy fuck where'd these likes come from.
Let's hope we see more of this going forward. I too remember a time when this was a video game channel and not a gateway to the AZGOP's OnlyFans page.
Yeah,miss that too.
These days its mostly political rants and streams with unrelated/unengaged filler gameplay.
Still waiting for that Tenchu retrospective.
@@strugglesnuggledslime7040 But good rants even if they are political. These are crazy times and we need his political rants as much as we need his reviews if not more.
I made a decision early on to avoid learning about this game so I could go in as blind as possible. Boy, do I feel smart now.
Same, thought the idea was cool but when it started becoming years between showing footage (most of which was pre rendered or heavily stylized) i just became uninterested and decided to wait for release before caring
Still felt bitter once I read all of the promised content that wasn't there.
Exactly, after 2018 i stopped watching anything about it. After i played what felt like a short campaign my friend streamed his playthrough, and lowe and behold it was the same storyline even though he picked a different role. I then realized there was no variation to the life paths and rewatching old trailers just made me more disappointed at what it should've been.
First and last time I did this was with Watch Dogs. Boy did I regret that.
Don't fall to the Consoomerism attitude. Rise above and join Piratechads...
Razor: "CD Projekt are artists at cultivating the illusion of choice."
GOP: "Hold my beer."
OH, SNAP!
Sometimes they don't think it be like it is, but it do.
We’re doing our best, ok?
@Char Aznable It's not even a two-party system. It's a one-party system, the one party is the Establishment, it pretends to be a two-party system. They use the two-party system as an excuse for why nothing gets done, but the minute something effects the Establishment those "Parties" unify pretty damn quickly. It's like professional wrestling, it sells the illusion of some big match between the good guy and the bad guy, but at the end of the day it doesn't matter who wins. It's all a show, behind the curtain they're all in on it.
What'a GOP?
I know Terran Gell had a hand in that last joke.
Badum, tsss!
A hand and... maybe some other body parts.
BUGGED JOKE MECHANICS DOOD! COME ON!
Cyberpunk is a game that I’ll pick up in a couple years on sale when all the bugs are fixed either by creators or the modders
Just like Skyrim, modders.
Nah dude, pick it up when it's dirt cheap now cuz of all the scandal. Then wait for the updates.
Buy the first print. It will be worth millions in a few years lol
Even at 20 bucks, I'd feel guilty buying this dishonest cash-grab. CDPR fans should feel used.
Well , design-wise it cant be patched because it is shitty designed . Better buy deus ex Human revolution and mankind divided. Those games makes you feel like a real cybernetic killing machine.
“A delayed game is eventually good, but holy FUCK CD PROJEKT RED!” - Shigeru Miyamoto, probably
Caught this on a random one cuz no sleep. Winning.
That sucks
Same
@@doodguytheblank2403 RUclips didn’t even notify me so fuck RUclips
Lol same
SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK
"Who's laughing now?" -Todd Howard
The tabletop had like 200× the amount of guns this game has
Thats one reason why id rather play that lol.
This kind of plays into why any game that claims to try and bring a tabletop experience will always fall short (with the possible exception of CRPGs).
Just one gun option in a game needs to have a model built, textures made, animations made, sound assets assigned, lighting added for firing, physics programmed for things such as ejected bullet cases and recoil and if a game has weapon customization then all of those need to be made compatible with every possible version of the weapon that can be crafted/discovered as well as coding being assigned for things such as drop/spawn rates and the like.
A tabletop system just needs a line of stats in a book somewhere and maybe a picture and a small bit of flavor text if you're feeling really fancy.
Now that's just for weapons, apply that to any other mechanic or system that a dev wants to convert from tabletop and you'll see why comparative shallowness is frankly an inevitability in just about any PC/console game (and why anything attempting such will no doubt take ages and suffer from bloat during development), tabletop games can have 200 times the weapons but that's also because it takes about 200 times less work to implement them.
@@marker9196 Kingdom Come Deliverence?
@@sulimanthemagnificent4893 Of course there are exceptions, but what I was saying is a general rule of why this sort of thing happens.
Tbh, it would have been great if the Tech ability let you modularize guns with the level of detail that you see in Fallout 4.
Just putting this out there, this game is more accurately described as Far Cry 2077. The Irony of that statement? Far Cry made a better cyberpunk game with Blood Dragon, a fucking spinoff they didn't even sell for full price. But there is a silver lining, Deus Ex has never had a better market to return to. And I have to thank you, Razör for convincing me to pull the trigger on Human Revolution and Mankind Divided, some of the best games I've played.
@@AlfredFJones1776 wrong😐
Human Revolution was really good. I haven't played the rest of them yet, but I mean to once I get the opportunity.
@Yī Xīng the ion storm one, yes. The reboot? Meh. Not a bad game, but severly lacking
Mankind Divideds only shortcomming was... that it was to short. Aside from that, the whole Deus Ex range is grand.
Deus Ex is a great franchise. I really liked Human Revolution, what with all the plot twists and revelations. They were really executed well. Hopefully we get to see the sequel to Mankind Divided in the near future.
My theory is once Keanu was brought on they scraped a lot of content and forced him into the narrative. While everyone is focused on bugs not as many people are focusing on the amount of content this game is lacking not just what was promised but basic things that have been in games like these since Saints Row / GTA.
Makes sense. The fake demo mentioned that johnny silverhand died in 2076 almost a 4 decades difference between that and the finished product
Definitely a better review than Pissed Off Pedro could ever do
10/10
Apoplectic Alejandro's been real quiet since this dropped
@@AJPwny Same with Kim Yong Yea
@@KamikazeChinaman That's amazing, I'm using that to refer to Yong Yea from now on
The game also doesn't really feel like "cyberpunk", I get almost no cyberpunk vibes from this game at all. It's like the devs understanding of the setting begins and ends with cyber implants.
Also, no Synthwave! They even made a statement that there would be no Synthwave in the game, because it's "too glossy and shiny" and they wanted dark and gritty. Massive irony, considering Cyberpunk 2077 is the most milk toast and tame Cyberpunk setting I've ever seen.
Synthwave is a meme genre anyway. "WOW so 80s LOL IVE NEVER ACTUALLY LISTENED TO 80S MUSIC)
Synthwave is for people who think Vangelis was the only new group in the Eighties.
@@observationsfromthebunker9639 Your comment confuses me. Please clarify.
@@observationsfromthebunker9639 Vangelis is dope though.
@@drifter402 Vangelis is mighty, yes, and they had enough ability to go big. But synthwave is super niche.
The games up to a decade ago were made by those who grew up playing table top RPGs in the 70s and the 80s. Video games today are made by those who played those video games produced in the 90s and 00s. Now we have actual good game design twice removed from its source and I daresay that's the reason why everything is shit now.
Maybe. But I bet the corporate marketeers who "designed" this game never touched a video game in their lives. Whatever the developers did wrong, they likely knew well in advance that they made a turd.
I came to tabletop very late in life, but I would have known enough to try to find somebody who understood the source material.
People who design RPGs shouldn’t touch RPG development until they’ve sat down for an extensive Tabletop campaign and played both Oblivion and Morrowind at the least. I’m sure other can suggest other titles of interest here.
@@Sellipsis Oblivion? No thanks. Lest the second half of the game becomes "oh You liked that one cool thing? Here's seventeen of those, have """""fun""""" with those!"
Literally copy and paste the same oblivion tower 17 times
can't wait for when we start making games based on movies based on games
When even Todd with all his little lies delivers better you know you done messed up.
The worst thing about Cyberpunk is that when I played it, I could see a good game, under a pile of garbage and errors, like Destiny 2, It feels like some A-hole from ubisoft-acti-blizz-AE mutilated a good game.
But it's just CDPR to blame, getting a big head after W3 made some pesos.
I'd say it's more the higher ups that were to blame for this. The devs were basically under the gun from the get go and maybe needed another year to get it right, perhaps outright cancelling the older gen versions. I guess now it's just a waiting game for whatever patch comes our way to put shit back in.
@@DawnOfTheOzz nah man the devs are to blame, in fact everyone at CDPR is, they announced this in 2012, one year before GTA V came to 360 and ps3, in all that time they couldn’t produce a stable game for the consoles they promised it would release on, it’s just a sad affair of how they came out to be.
@@DawnOfTheOzz "Just one more year of redesigning" if you fuck up the ingredients of the cake just baking it for triple the time isn't going to fix anything
I'm Commander Shepard and this is my favorite Andromeda on the Steam Store.
Ritual was the only station I'd listen too, I'd flip every once in awhile to the other rock station and it might have something decent... Tell me how a game with "Punk" in the title didn't have a Punk station?
@@saikku8035 Black fucking metal \m/
Cyberpunk is a literary genre and has nothing to do with music whatsoever.
@@SausageFingers420 Yeah, but this game is a "sequel" to the tabletop game and that one was punk incarnate.
@@SausageFingers420 The whole Cyberpunk 2020 theme from the tabletop is very Punk influenced figured they throw in some as a nod.
@Zoomer Waffen "Comics exploring cyberpunk themes began appearing as early as Judge Dredd, first published in 1977. Released in 1984, William Gibson's influential debut novel Neuromancer would help solidify cyberpunk as a genre, drawing influence from punk subculture and early hacker culture."
I wonder if Razor's sister gets stuck like that often?
Apparently it happens ALL THE TIME. It's the darndest thing.
@@yaryar5828 I can help her out full time.
That’s just a stock image. Razor’s sister is probably busted.
I can confirm.
0/10 No option to romance Razors' sister.
The lower levels of Coruscant in attack of the clones was more cyberpunk than this game world.
My favorite defense of this game is people saying that the game is only glitching because it was meant for the new consoles despite the fact the game started development before the current generation was released and originally set to release before we officially knew the names of the new consoles.
Right? thats some high grade copium those people are spewing. ffs even in the apology video that Martin guy said "old gens" as if the new generation has been out for a few years now.
Cope: 100
I've played this game for over a hundred hours on PC. Five minutes of that time, at most, can be allocated to glitches.
It's as if you don't want to give this game its due. Weird.
@@mattehcat One of my friends and myself have both had this game crash several times, and it caused a straight up blue screen on my friend's machine. He encountered a bug that soft locked him in the story and forced him to load an older save as well. Both of us on PC.
@@ZodiacEntertainment2 That's cool. Then how are our experiences so distinct?
Have you considered that you're assuming it's the game and not your PCs?
That new intro is absolutely badass
Just wrote a similar comment. Better trailer than CDPR's own dogshit
My thoughts exactly!
You know the rant is hitting on all cylinders when there is a cut away showing Razor doing the ‘F you I was right’ chair dance. God F’ng Speed
"He is to lying what Tony Iommi is to riffs."
This is why Razor is the King of the Internet.
Funnily enough I was convinced this would be the RPG that would never be topped. Considering only two percent of your choices matter and the first half life’s cockroach has better AI not a joke there is an online comparison. Even early 2000 games had better physics and open worlds.
Atp, I think I’m totally content to play nothing but fighting games and modded Oblivion for the rest of my days. There’s no point in getting excited over new game releases. The only game i’m remotely excited about is Avowed because it’ll be Obsidian directly competing against Bethesda’s ES games but considering how everyone now talks about Outer Worlds I’m skeptical on it as well.
@@Sellipsis fighting games are going downhill too the whole industry has gone down
@@devonjames7999 Nah, fighting games are doing fine rn. The only issue is potential future lack of funding because Corona killed the tournament scene. But people are still playing the games and new characters are being released for them. I
Dont't even sit there and say shit about Mortal Kombat. Idc, I don't play it and it's like the one fighter besides DOA that's really fucked up in the past few years. There's like 15 other fighters out right now that all have people playing them.
Even their previous game, Witcher 3, had better rpg mechanics to the story. Hilarious how they managed to screw up something that they already made work before.
@@Sellipsis play samurai showdown my guy its probably one of the best fighter on the market. No auto combos, no gimic mechanics, just. Most fightters have turned into aggressive button mashers . Skill matters less and less to be " more inviting to non fighter gamers or non gamers in general I have always heard of complaints that fighters are "too hard" well now they are too damn easy just relying on mashing and mechanics to win. No one wants to use spacing and actually think about how to open up their opponents and pace out and attacks to bate you opponents. No just mash till their thumbs cramp out.
When a cowboy game from 2018 has more advanced mechanics than a 2020 futuristic cyberpunk game .
And is a fuck load more fun than a futuristic game as well. Hell it's gotten me to want to get an 1851 Navy .36 caliber revolver.
"They're giving us more choice!" -Yongyea
Read Dead Redemption is more of an open-world RPG than this rushed hunk of trash.
@@AlfredFJones1776 Oh please. You suckers spent 3 years sucking off this garbage and threw a hissy-fit over anybody showing the slightest skepticism. Grow up.
@Char Aznable Goes both ways. But non thinking drone can't know that.
Saints Row The Third is better than Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk 2077 combine!
@@AlfredFJones1776 Cope harder fanboy. this game is weak trash and you know it.
@@AlfredFJones1776 to be bad Cyberpunk would have to be a finished game. It's not.
At least we still have DOOM: Eternal.
Started the kettle and loaded up RUclips, perfect timing
Praise Terran Gell for making such a great editing for this review.
It really is devastating to think that they pushed the game out the door just to make the 4th quarter earnings report when all it needed to become the actual masterpiece hinted at by its premise was, like, mere 5 more years of development.
A game with no coherent vision can't be fixed with delays. It's the same problem Anthem had. They had no idea what they were making so they had to scramble in the last year to make SOMETHING playable.
@@mariokarter13 What AAA openworld game has a "coherent vision"?
@@mariokarter13 Well, "mere 5 years of development" does indeed refer to another full development cycle. They seem to have had an idea at some point, but two partial production reboots and subsequent rush to release tend to make things murky at least bit.
@@cyberdystopia6029 if delays and extra years of development time, or hell even a complete remaking, made diamond level games, what the fuck was duke nukem forever. Delays do NOT FIX broken core principles of the game design process in a studio.
You didn't get what he was talking about,did you? Bugs are least problem this game has. Bugs can be patched. Totally misplaced, mised concept can't without making a new game from scratch.
At least Anthony Fantano would've had the good sense to throw in *one* Death Grips song in the tracklist.
Not going to mention the elephant in the room? The photo of the Witcher 3 dev team versus the Cyberpunk 2077 dev team (that I suddenly can't find, lol) and how diverse one is compared to the other?
I fucking forgot about that! W3 team was mostly polish dudes while the CP team was more wahmen and brownies.
Bugs can be fixed, but shitty game design is forever.
This^
1:15 p.m. in Japan now. I’m wide awake and ready.
Where in Japan?
Tell Kreia I said hi.
@@watashi5000 Shibuya.
@@Aidanrvb09 Nice. I’m a bit between Shibuya and Yokohama, but I worked in Shibuya for the longest.
@@watashi5000 not bad. What did you do for work?
All this mess of a game makes me want is a decent Judge Dredd game.
Goddammit.
Have you played Dredd vs Death? Pretty good FPS game.
Yeah,a new Dredd game would be fantastic. I am wondering,however,if playing as Dredd in Mega-City One would lend itself pretty well to RPG mechanics.
They'll only ruin it and make you wish it hadn't happened.
*Here - Let me help:*
Dredd was actually an overweight, XY chromosome, non binary, bisexual black teenager with leftist ideals and a penchant for anti establishment activism
I stopped "wanting things" in 2008. Apathy can be awesome when its a *conscious choice* 😂
@@unbearifiedbear1885 you may just be me from not to far in the future.
Your game reviews are some of the best. Your take the scattered pieces of my brain screaming "WTF is this?!" and you turn them into all the right words!
The new “open world” games are creeping back to linear, story driven games- which is fine, but the developers need to just be honest with themselves, and us, and embrace what they’re really trying to do. Otherwise they’re not really satisfying anyone.
Wolfenstein and Metro show it can still be done.
I rather games go back to more linear levels like Crash Bandicoot 4 than to be open world bore fests like any GTA clone outthere with a gazillion sidequests that are all copy and pasted.
Maybe if they stopped using graphics as a scapegoat, they could be pressed to add more actual RPG mechanics or other actual customization options. For Elder Scrolls for example, you could take Oblivion and just download some texture mods. Boom, you have a game that looks like Skyrim (if not better depending on the mods) with better gameplay.
Cyberpunk being reviewed by Johnny Silverhand, the younger years...
Now you CAN'T unsee it ..😎
I missed seeing you tearing videogames apart!
Me watching the teaser trailer in 2012: "I really hope they can pull this off."
Me speaking across time and space to my past self from 2022: "Do not trust to hope, it has forsaken these lands."
This is why you don't trust games that take 8 years to make..
RDR2 took 10 years to make. not even close to a bad game
@@asycore yeah except RDR2 didn't even spend half of the time spent by the CP2077 just hyping itself up. i barely heard crap about RDR2 until about a year or so from release. i've been hearing Cyberpunk and its fans fellating it for about the last 3 years it feels like.
I've made it a point to not trust games that take more than 5 years to make.
Quick note: the teaser trailer dropped in 2012 yes, but they only started developing this game after the last Witcher 3 DLC, so... 2018.
Doesn't make it any better to be honest: let's put 2 years on an overhyped game, what could go wrong?
@@asycore Cyberpunk is ass because they had no clear vision.
If Razor actually played the whole game he'd have much better reasons to hate it. Like spending 60 hours of gameplay to get to a skill tree perk that doesn't even work.
Cyberpunk 2077 does at least one good thing when you start playing it. It makes you want to stop playing it and play Deus Ex instead, and theres no bad time to be had when you do that.
Just got my signed The Long Moonlight sir! Very beautiful, thanks!
Funny how they hyped the RPG elements in this game to hell and back and now it's less of an RPG than fucking Yakuza 7 LOL
They actually took one of the social stats from the tabletop versions ("Cool") and made it into the stealth attribute in this game (and there is actually a stealth skill in the TTG, called "Stealth" under the "Reflexes" stat in 2020 and in the "Dexterity" stat in RED). It's baffling how they just cut all the stats and skills away that would have made this an RPG. No actual "Cool", no "Empathy", no "Willpower", no "Attractiveness". It's like they just took the name and the general aesthetics and decided that let's cash in on the (then) emerging synthwave "style". I've grown to dislike these so called RPGs with premade, pre-attituded characters where my input is purely in which combat skills I pick.
100% agreed. I wouldn’t even call this game a shooter with RPG elements. It’s a shooter with a level system and upgrades.
@@YT1300MF Indeed. These level systems are basically just another type of ammunition or weapon, nothing more, when you break them down to their core parts.
**Closes car door**
**Car explodes**
sounds like you own a ford
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just regular day on gta online
In 2021, the war on attributes in RPGs continues....
@@xProtobro If that's true, then I'll happily just keep playing Oblivion over and over again until I kick the bucket.
Attribute-less RPGs suck.
@@xProtobro You'll never take my crits from me you heathen!
someone took a bump of ket before drafting that "Our Promise" shit
2021 needs to be the year of the T pose.
Well... it's easier than planking I guess.
oh no not that again
Ex-Arm approved.👉
7:27 That one hurts a lot, this was the perfect game for a synthwave soundtrack; Perturbator, Lazerhawk, Mega Drive, Miami Nights 1984, etc. And all we end up getting is fucking wub-wub dubstep, because the trends of the early-2010s refuse to die just like the grunge mentality of the 90's refuses to die.
There's a reason why Never Fade Away and Chippin' In are the stand-out songs in the soundtrack among the licenced stuff and the ones made for the game, because even if they fall more on the Rage (not) Against The Machine side of things rather than Exodus or W.A.S.P, they define better the overall spirit of the setting better than mumble rap, run-of-the-mill wub wub and generic Indie rock will ever do.
What you didn't like hits like "HUMMNIMUBIDU CHAIN UH SHIBBIDABUBITA PAIN UH" blaring in the opening?
@Viceroy Fizzlebottom Carpenter Brut and Perturbator would have been a perfect fit for combat OST, better than re-using fucking Dubstep
You know, maybe there is a clear cut between the 2: corpo-backed Dubstep/Indie Rock/mumble rap, and edgerunner Synthwave and Metal
Hey, Razor mentioned my home city! Too bad it's shite tho. Lol.
As is the state it's in.
CDPR butchering 8yrs of dev work and fumbling 2 million in digital copies:
"We'll Never Fade Away,
We Lost Everything!"
The hype train was too massive. Yes it is a broken piece of shit but the hype of the game truly cemented cyberpunks fate.
To a point I'd agree but Razor went down the list of things CDPR promised and it seems they didn't even try.
Maybe game devs should take notice and only start to tease a game when the development is nearing completion. Don't give the hype train time to derail. And definitely don't tease features or mechanics unless you're 120% sure that you can make them work. We should've learned this after No Man's Sky's launch. At least they were dedicated enough to go back and fix their game, but most aren't.
I used to describe this game as the GTA version of Deus Ex but, even then, that description is fairly insulting to Deus Ex since the "journey" taken by your character amounts to very little. The core narrative is so stagnant that the side-quests actually feel more like the game they were trying to make when it comes to memorable characters, interesting story hooks and the overall future noir vibe. The greatest insult to Deus Ex? You can complete this game without using a single augmentation. Not even once.
To me, any kind of game based on Cyberpunk 2020 will always be a GTA clone no matter how hard some scream, mainly thanks to the myriad details on vehicles in general throughout the core and various supplemental books for the tabletop game.
I haven't played Cyberpunl 2077, so I can't and I'm not commenting on the guilty of the game.
That said finishing a cyberpunk rpg without using any augmentations isn't a bad concept. Just like being able to finish a fantasy rpg without using the magic system isn't in itself bad, because it gives the player agency on what type of character they want to play as. Where this would come a problem is if the augmentations or the magic system didn't have any impact on the gameplay and were just aesthetics to look cool.
@@IamaCosmonaut " Where this would come a problem is if the augmentations or the magic system didn't have any impact on the gameplay and were just aesthetics to look cool."
Are you sure you haven't played Cyberpunk 2077?
@@debonaire_nerd I'm pretty sure I haven't.
I haven't played Cyberpunk 2077, but my friend group are about to start up a Shadowrun campaign because the cyberpunk genre is "big" again and we also want a new TTRPG to play so at the very least, CDPR's dumpster fire inadvertently brought me to a different game I think I'll enjoy a lot more.
It sounds like how Deus Ex was in early development when it was called "Troubleshooter," but without the part where Warren Spector realized that the idea was mostly bad and scaled back his ambitions a little bit to focus on what actually worked.
Keanu didn't fuck up the game by being in it, but the story was trashed to make Keanu the main character.
How dare you attack my company!
How dare you afflict the public-at-large with this wet taco shit you call a video game!
Videos like these is why I subbed in the first place. Good shit.
It could be grea- urm, good or just fine. Oh well.
Man, well thought out and entertaining videos like this are the reason this channel has survived all my Sub Purges for all these years
I am getting the feeling Razorfist didn't like the game....
3:04 that’s a classic for several RUclips stars, editor
AND WE LOVE THEM!
And your editing too,folks!
Switched this game out for Yakuza:Like a Dragon as my Christmas present. God damn did I dodge a bullet
"Spell slinging stealth archer and never touch the thing again" - relatable
It truly is CD Projekt Red's Skyrim. It will only become the game it was meant to be when the fans do the heavy lifting for them.
Are modders even going to touch this game? Bethesda had modders in mind for years before Skyrim even started development, and modders still had to do a ton of back-end crap to even get their foot in the door.
@@yaryar5828 Well given that there are already about several hundred modifiers on the Nexus site for shit like car handling, cheats, shaders, cosmetics, audio, control tweaking, and more, I'd say they're more than willing to at least achieve Payday 2 levels of modability.
"Bitch, I've seen more signs of life on the Biden voter roles"
Accurate.
It was really sweet how on he went straight for the Tomb of the Unknown Voter to lay a wreath on inauguration day, tho.
I hated that this was first person. Why have so much customization if you can't see any of it?
11:31 "We all know that this game is more busted than Janice Dickinson's face..."
In addition to that line: "...and just as busted as Sylvester Stallone's mother."
This game truly helped me understand more time on a game doesn't not = a good game.
It also helped me realize I have far better things to do with my time than video games.
You can be learning a skill with the time you play video games.
I use to play games for 5 hours a day. Cyberpunk opened my eyes and now I play maybe 5 hours a week. The rest is spend painting and doing hobby crafting.
Hearing some Zao I haven’t heard in 20 goddamn years in the intro for this video was a surprise.
8:15 Anthony Fantano contributing to cyberpunk seems plausible considering that they put e-celebs like CohhCarnage and Alanah Pearce into this disasterpiece.
A FUCKING ZAO INTRO?!
FROM THEIR MOST CLASSIC ALBUM?!
A FUCKING GENRE DEFINING ALBUM AT THAT?!
AND THE ORIGINAL, NOT THE SHITTY RE-RECORDING?!
Holy fuck, Razor. Just sweet holy fuck. Amazing, dude.
Combine the worst parts of Deux Ex and GTA 3 (not even Vice City) and you get 99% of the feel of Cyberpunk.
Most insightful comment was this:
“Cyberpunk isn’t dystopian hi-tech futurism. It’s dystopian hi-tech futurism based on the cultural, aesthetic, philosophic, and geopolitical trajectories of the 1980s. The further removed from those we get, the less authentic new titles in the genre become.”
The best thing about cyberpunk 2077, is it made me play cyberpunk 2020.
Makes me laugh when pc fanboys attempt to convince themselves it's just console problems. This game is terrible without glitches the city is boring and lifeless and the combat is flat. Poor story and endless tired dialogue.
Lmao! Love the post credit scenes. Keanu about to give an "oral exam" to the song 'Careless Whisper' absolutely floored me!
Follows the axiom of too long of a dev cycle leading to extreme disappointment.
See also: TLoU2, Last Guardian, Duke Forever
I would rather play DNF then this train wreck
Tlou 2 was a well made product. But the story my God that disgusted and enraged me so much. Neil cuckmann curse you
Really digging the classic youtube editing in this one
I like a video that references both shadow warrior and Metalocalypse. Kudos to you
I hope Razorfist reviews the entire Yakuza series starting with the absolute masterpiece Yakuza 0. Manliest fucking game ever made!!!
The disco mini games gave me a new found appreciation for city pop. Been bumping it at work.
The only thing manlier was their Fist of the North Star spin off.
0 thru 5 are now on Xbox game pass
Love that you included Zao, Razer! As usual, nice work.
When Skyrim is a better “RPG”
Hardly. Skyrim suffers the same issue with no attributes leading to stunted gameplay variety as this game does.
@@Sellipsis Skyrim has actual opportunity for roleplaying, this game doesn't...
Therefore, Skyrim is a better RPG even if it isn't a good one in its own right.
Skyrim is a meme
This was the first and only game I ever pre-ordered thinking "It's CD Project Red they made the Witcher 3 one of the best games made in recent years there's no way this can turn out bad right?" and I got burned so bad.
Same here man. i specifically got into pc gaming for this game. now I'm skeptical of every video game. no exceptions.
The biggest issue for me was just how fuckin' empty NC feels most of the goddamn time!
Here's hoping modders can make this game the masterpiece it should've been.
"Its miller time" "Thrill me!"
Anyone here remembers the game Arcanum: of steamwork and magick obscura? Anyone want a sequel to that?
Hey hey people.
Yeah I really would. But it would have to be done right with no stupid woke shit in it.
@@ZeroOmega-vg8nq Sseth here
@@DukeWooze fully agree. Heard there was gonna be a sequel to it but it got scrapped for vampire the masquerade bloodlines
@@XenrickDHeart might be time for some anons to make their own version of a successor and to make sure you vet the team
Great review, and LOVE that you used some (original) Zao in the intro....going way back there, brought a big smile to my face.
I can't fault CD for not being super futuristic with Cyberpunk. After all they are Polish and we are only now discovering compact fluorescent light bulbs.
"And yes, I have not been compensated for the use of my likeness" - This is what I came here for after getting to this scene. 2:46
Finally someone said it. I’ve been telling people to stfu about the glitches since day one and complain about the content instead
Dude your editing is damn near God Tier!! 🔥🔥 I'm subbing