Sh*t I Never Knew: What Lift Should I Buy?! Rough Country VS BDS
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- So should you spend the extra money on a BDS Suspension Lift over a Rough Country Lift? Check out the comparison betwen the two, and take a ride with Fuller in this weeks episode of "Sh*t I Never Knew"
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To Clarify, this kit is now out dated and Rough County does offer a kit which includes more components now. We received a lot of questions on this and just wanted to make everyone aware. The video does still offer a great comparison of Rough Country Quality to BDS quality. The new RC kit is supposed to ride better then the old model in this truck.
What it comes down to is; RC is still the best bang for you buck, but if you want to splurge for durability and ride quality, go for the BDS.
To clarify, Fuller is comparing a 3" kit from RC to a 4" kit upgraded with Fox shocks from BDS, apples to bananas.
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Be Real so both are still fruits
Is it possible to put fox shocks on a rough country kit for the test........at least that way the field is a little more "level".
Custom Offsets Sooo lets say the bds is twice the price, do you think itll also last twice longer??
It’s all about the shocks period.
2017 Chevy Silverado Z71 with 4" BDS coilover Fox kit. Feels like stock kit on road minus the tire hop. Offroad.....its a complete BEAST of a difference. 60 miles of rough beach run and my 6 year old was sleeping even at 60 mph. The 2017 Raptor I was with could not follow comfortably past 35 mph and he was not happy. So glad I did BDS and will stick with them after this experience.
The best decision I ever made was pulling off the RC lift kit on my Silverado and put on a BDS 6” kit. Night and day
@Marc Owens at the end of the day I got 2.5 more inches of lift and went with the fox racing shocks. Ride quality is night and day different and all the suspension noises went away due to the extra engineering of angles and quality of all the parts. Was well worth it especially for a daily driver.
Just bought a 2018 Silverado LT 1500 and love the stock ride after having my 2002 Chevy HD2500 with a 6" Pro Comp Lift that rode pretty stiff and crappy. Found this video while researching ride quality of lifts and I find it very helpful. I wasn't even familiar with BDS until now and great to see the differences between them and Rough Country. RC is pretty cheap but good for the budget people that care less about ride quality. After riding in my new 2018 my goal is to keep the ride as smooth as possible. BDS is the viable lift option along with quality tires on 18" wheels. 20" will ride stiffer. Thanks for the great vid, guys.
MOTO PILOT hey I’m getting a 2018 Chevy Silverado too and excited. When you had the RC was the ride loud bumpy? What makes it different from BDS?
Not to mention the no questions asked lifetime warranty
I went with the RC 6" lift on my 2016 Colorado but then upgraded to the BDS FOX shocks in rear and BDS FOX Coilovers in front. Saved close to $1,000 and couldn't be happier!
How much did this cost you around?
60% more isn’t a huge price jump? Lol okay. Just ordered my Rough Country kit! Thanks for the vid!
Lol broke ass go to collage get a better job because if 600 is huge to you, you need to rethink some things
collage - hahah
Zak Mang bro... You can't even spell college 😂. I swear some dudes are fkn stupid.
Blue collars make more in a year than your """COLLAGE"""" educated ass.Now go pound dirt!
@@zakmang3074
Ha Ha..liberal anti white "collage"?
RC 3-4 inch lift kit with Ohlins 36P Shock Absorber. 34-36 inch tires and we competed in king of the hammers and got top 5 finish. With a 8k project over 60k builds
I guess everyone pretends like they don't see your post for a comparison
What class did you race in?
I have a Rough Country lift kit on my Silverado and I love it, rides perfect. Would defiantly buy it again
How is it now?
You would defiantly buy it again? Like buy it but against your will?😂
my D-Max has a 6" lift, I drove it with 32" Cooper tires for a month, stiff as hell and rough at times. I put new 35" BFG All Terrains and its plush now.
James Dean adding 3” more tire can definitely change the ride quality!
Camburg by far, put the fox's on the RC and i bet tbe results would be the same
This is really easy fellas/ladies, if you are broke ROUGH COUNTRY if you put in the hard work and have the money, BDS.
Rough country is fine. It's about the shocks. You will find no difference between the two lifts if you choose the same shocks. And apparently the rough country vertex coilovers are the best ride you can get.
@@jbcolson1027 Yes, opinion are like assholes. BDS is hands down the absolute best as far as these two go.
Its call Rough Country for a reason!
Good video , learned a lot for my upcoming suspension upgrade on my diesel build
Really wish you guys would’ve left the rc shocks on for the first drive. And or put the fox on the rc lift.
Yeah this all really just taught us nothing. Or, that after market shocks are better. I hear that the Rough Country vertex are the best all around though.
That solstice is cool as hell. You never see anyone do anything to those, cool to see one built
I have a rough country 2-3in lift kit with the rear add a leaf on my '94 Chevy K1500. Rear ride feels bouncy over bumps and clearance between upper control arms and droop stops close to nothing. They aren't cranked far. The truck actually has a small amount of rake yet almost no uca clearance. Rides much worse over bumps compared to factory and will be spending the extra money for better quality for my next truck
Bds hands down
I just want to throw in my two cents here... It all comes down to what vehicle your lifting. I have looked into lifts for my truck for a Long time and BDS makes great kits but there are things I didn't care for so I used most of their parts with fox shocks but also upgraded 3 parts from the kit to get what I wanted out of it. For me I did not want any adaptors and brackets and I wanted it to be built the best I could. I still have a few things to work on it but definitely happy I went the way I did even though its been a pain to get limit straps, brake lines, and stuff like that work with the setup I cant wait to really test it!
I’m 55, and retired from US Government, I utilize very valuable information that my family’s farm uses on all their 3500 & 5500 Dodge cab & chassis diesel crew cab 6SPD , and the Jeep Wranglers we use all have Texas Farm plates, but we only have 51/2 Rough Country with CV joints on both drive shafts, but these vehicles are used daily only for farm & ranch use, thus we never do rock crawling or four wheeling for other than farm use. Paying $7000 for lift kits where we can use $1400 lift kit works much better for farm use, we do utilize front lockout hubs, 12” wide rims on Super Swamper 36” radials, front air locker & rear air locker, and AirLift suspension bags to keep front extended bumper with PTO 30K winch, rear hydraulic winch, 4 pairs of KC & Piaa LED individual lights , plus Unity driver & passengers post corner 6” LED spot lights. Additionally the Wrangler Jeeps we use are always 2 door only, we never use “ SOCCER MOM” 4-Dr Wranglers. The hard tops are off & we use a canvas sunshield because we pull a Gooseneck 14’ stock trailer with removable racks, so we had to put 4:56 ring & pinion with our lockers, but we never get stuck, even in plowed turn-rows when hauling implements on the gooseneck trailer. The 3500 & 5500 Dodge cab & chassis tend to get stuck even though they have after market lockers & upgraded turbos.we use single wide 14 ply mud radial tires & must keep 2 different spares for front & rear, just like the truck tractors, when they converted to super wide singles on the twin screw rear axles, technically not using 10 tires, anymore but only 6. The steering tires are mud radials 14 ply & the singles are 14 or 16 ply radials, however they tend to make it through areas that would have stopped the dual tire factory setup quickly. Too, the beds are standard aluminum no-frills beds, only aluminum toolboxes in front & behind rear tires.
Those sound like some nice setups Jester! Sounds like you know exactly what works and what you want out of your trucks!👍
i would have to say the rough country in my opinion shouldn't be much different than stock ride considering its still using factory leafs an coils your just changing the center of gravity by a few inches
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You have a used kit compared to an old kit. How do we not know the guy who owns the truck didn't beat the shez out of his suspension. I had a bds on my truck and I hated it after 3 months. I put a rough country kit on 4 years ago on my truck after having the bds on there for six months and it still rides good although I am ordering the new line of shocks they have for my truck.
If one kit costs $1,000 and the other is $1,600, I'd hardly call that "not that much more expensive." It's 60% more expensive - that's more than half. it really is "that" much more expensive. It's not really an apples-to-apples comparison at all.
This guys got some money. To him it’s a small difference.
What kind of comparison is it then? The video description is literally about rough country vs BDS🤦♂️
i think Skyjacker has the best lift kits. i used parts from rough country, skyjacker, and ready lift and made my own 5 inch lift on my truck along with custom heavy duty sway bar links.
It’s 2022 n this video is still fire. Glad to know about the rough country lift is a little rough n all. This is good info. You guys should get back to some of these kind of videos. Definitely pay attention to the springs. Don’t make that mistake. Lol.
I want my 93 k1500 to feel like a dumptruck...I drove tri axle dumptrucks for several years ...going to get me a super tuned Galaxy CB so I can really bring back the memories
Great review on the two most common lifts 👍🏻
Thanks Mike! -Fuller
Tire pressure will change with a ALL TERRAIN tire not a mud terrain tire and it will ride 10x better.and less road noise
I think it would have also been helpful to note in the title or description that this a comparison of the two kits on an F-250. The kits for the F-150 are quite different, and as you noted in your update, Rough Country made significant changes to the quality of their kits.
Don't go into conclusion and off the bat say "well BDS is definitely better, i have to get it!" Naw.. you can get the rough country lift, UPGRADE your shocks, AND control arms WITH upgraded steering stabilizers. You can always mix and match. You don't have to go completely with 1 brand. Just letting you know. It's called "tuning" your suspension to your liking, which is ALWAYS better than going with the "KIT".
Remove the ear cancer from the beginning of the videos and you're my new favorite channel
Thanks for the reviews - especially on the lifts and what changing wheels and tires impacts. I am looking into lifting a 2006 F150 4x4 Lariat that currently has 18" wheels and about 30" tires (all terrain). Also considering getting new wheels and tires when we do this.
also the shocks probably made most of the difference lol you go from notoriously bad shocks to nice fox shocks i bet it would have made the rc ride better too
robert anderson Thats what I've been wondering. Why couldn't one use the RC kit and upgrade the shocks and rear coils ?
jjkatona Because they will make more money selling you a full BDS lift kit.
I ended up with the Zone D41N 6" front and 5" rear lift because they replace your stock coil springs to lift the rear. Made by bds and only $1600.00. Its all I need and a great kit.
I just installed a 6" RC lift for my FX4 and spent a little more for the lifted struts. It was well worth the money. Coil spring spacers will only make the ride rougher
buggaz bean did u change springs too or stock springs?
I honestly took a rough country 5icnh off my truck and went back to stock and the ride was better with the lift then stock
This was on an 06 3500 dodge forgot that part
I am looking for a 4 to 6 inch lift on a Ford Ranger FX4 offroad,
I like the parts comparison of the kids great video thank you
Listening to his description he is comparing a $399 rc kit to a $1999 or more bds when fox is added. Stock springs vs aftermarket i can tell you for a fact that the aftermarket wheels and tires made my ride rougher and adding the lift didn’t change it much and upgraded shocks help but be prepared to shell out the $$$ for fox or king
1 Trillion percent buy BDS!!!!!
Life time warranty and they over build for strength. 😁👍👍👍👍👍
Currently saving up to lift my f-150 going with a bds 6in 👍
Raymond Lucero me too
Raymond Lucero what year?
Project Black150 a 2017 just got it last month getting impatient cause i want it all lifted already lol
Raymond Lucero same lol
Cant wait took be a part of both of your builds guys!
Can u fabricate a bracket so u don’t have to cut your truck
The main difference is coils and shocks. Everything else is hardware, built a little different.
Great video! These videos are definitely helping me to decide on the building of my truck.
Shout out to the jeep at 3:05
For my 07 silverado classic, the bds with fox are damn near 2 grand. RC is still only 1079.99. Definitely a much bigger price difference. Would i rather go with a higher end lift, sure. But can i really afford to atm, realistically no. Still gonna wait a year and who knows i may be able to spend the extra for a better kit but right now RC is in my price range
Edwin Byrd check out zone off road kits
BDS on my 05 Tahoe. Thumbs up all day.
I can’t speak for super duty’s but for the f150 the only difference between the two lift kits is really just the shocks that come with it. I opted for the RC lift to save 1k up front. Then upgrade my shocks later in the future.
Tyler Harris how are you liking the ride quality, I plan on doing the same for my 05 f150
Am I the only one seeing the irony in "off-road suspension" only being compared on-road?
Given the kits, I get it.. but it's still funny.
(Not dissing BDS cuz if a 2.5 shock is all you need, I think they make great stuff)
Anyway I thought it was a great walk-through on the component differences.
I feel like it’s all the damn same just brand if it’s made out of metal then if it does the job I’m all for it
Rough country is made to be affordable so why do people expect the ebst quality. Bds cost more and you get what you pay for. It's a truck so y do people care about ride quality.
Raging Squirel Just because it’s a truck doesn’t mean you want to ride like crap I drive my truck every day for work and for personal use I wanted to ride as good as it can
The comparison was 1 year old rough country to brand new BDS. If they had both new or both used...it would been a better comparison. We don't know how rough he was on the older RC suspension too. Some guys are rough on their trucks...you treat his truck well (which you should), but again he might be more aggressive.
One year later and the BDS rides exactly the same! And CO2 is our flagship show truck and absolutely babied!
i wish u guys make a video about the diffrence betwen the leveling kits and how it works if its under the shocks or above the coil overs.
So weird watching you drive in Appleton didint know you guys where located in Wisconsin
Could you give me a hands down recommendation for my 1990 Blazer? Current Condition Notes: All four leaf springs are worn out. So should I consider just getting a kit with rear leafs instead of the blocks and what would the ride difference generally be between the two setups? I am also swapping the stock 350 block with a Mark IV 454 so obviously there will be a heaver front end to contend with. This is my first 4x4 build and any advice would be super welcome before I shell out the cash. Also a 4" lift at least from appearance seems to be a pretty good lift without getting stupid. I will generally drive this on the street and in the desert around Vegas and may tow a 17' trailer from time to time.
Big difference in ride between a 1 ton and 3/4 ton as well. I've had both lifted and 1 ton always rides like a tank..lol
What are you running now? We’d love to see your tuck in the gallery on our website! Customoffsets.com/add
I'm starting a wrangler yj build over the summer. The lift kit on the jeep is shot and I'm going to replace it. I was wondering which kit would be better between bds and rc. I know bds is supposed to be better engineered, but on a solid axle leaf spring setup I question what all there is to re-engineer outside of the struts (which I could just upgrade on an rc kit). Any advise?
You can use diesel coil springs on a V8 gasser springs they're gonna be stiff,but worth it if you like a heavy duty springs.
Drive safe bro. Can you see over that wheel.Good video my man
“It’s a truck, it’s gonna ride worse than a car.” Me:Laughs in Raptor
I have RCX on 2014 tundra loving it very smooth better then Stock .
Phuc Tran my cousin has the same truck and yes that RC is really good.
Tough question. BDS 6in with Fox shocks, or Rough Country 6in with v2 monotube rear shocks and front coil overs for 200 more?
Both would be good options man!! 🙏
awesome review but one thing not mentioned is its a new kit vs old kit. not sure how much difference that would make but im sure its gotta make some. great vid though
Definitely noticed a difference Duraldehunter! Rides smoother!
Custom Offsets no i mean how much of the difference is because of one kit being new vs the older one
Does RC new Vertex coil overs have a smooth ride as the BDS kit ?
Well idk how much I can trust them seeing that fine thread fasteners are stronger because the cross section of the bolt is actually larger.
Jeffrey Fledderman Unless the overall diameter of the bolt is bigger
How high can a FTS lift kit go ? Is FTS related to BDS some how ?
BDS or CARLI??? idk what to do 2017 Cummins
I have bds no problems
Ok, Ram Laramie 2019 6 inch lift kit: RC or BDS? 35" or 37? Nito or BF? What do you all would buy regardless of money spent?
Its your truck and you should modify it the way that fits your personality and lifestyle!
@@CustomOffsetsTV thanks, do you offer any combo for wheels and 35" tires? I'm going for BDS!!
Just realizes BDS does not has a 6 inch lift for Ram 2019, thoughts on pro comp vs RC?
well. its just u get what u pay for. ill go with bds soon :D
Why is it 1500$ when I found the kit for 150$ online?
The Pomp King You didn’t find a brand new kit for $150
What about "AnyLevel Lift" what i find it is hard to find a shop that will do this kit due to the hour of labor being around 2 to 3 weeks of work.....meaning 80 plus hours.
AnyLevels are great but they are pricy and do take a lot of time install.
I've got a Silverado 1500 that I want to put 35 inch Toyo tires on. I would LIKE to put the 6 inch BDS lift kit on it, but am worried that it would require trimming. I am ok with some minor trimming but don't want to do a lot. On the other hand, Rough Country makes a 7 inch kit that would probably work with 35s. What would you recommend given a choice of the two? I'd be using 18x9 wheels. This would be a dedicated off road setup, so durability is important.
They will both work, and both require trimming to drop the front diff down. As for what size setup you want to fit check our gallery out here- bit.ly/2eZjvZm
SmokyMountainOutdoorsman I have a 7 inch RC lift with 35s and I had to do a lot of trimming, mostly bc I’m running 35x22x12.5
I'm trying to so a 4in on an excursion but keep oem ride quality, anything out there like that?
Make sure to get a quality lift, usually the more you pay the better quality. Check out ICON or McGaughys bit.ly/2uh6l2L
I think Ima stick w my BDS.. ❤️ it's better then rough country lol
Difference in the kits are gonna be the shocks.
I've always heard that a Rough Country kit with an upgraded shock such as Bilstein/Fox is more comparable to a nicer kit such as Zone/BDS as far as ride goes. Any insight to that?
They do ride better with a better shock!
I have the RC 6 inch in my F-150 and the 2.2 shocks were not that great. I swapped them out for the RC N3 and they are leaps and bounds better. My brother has the same setup with the fox 2.0 shock and you can’t tell the difference compared to the new N3 RC SHOCK.
It would be great to see this comparison with a payload or trailer behind it.
Where can you find a 1600 bds kit with fox shocks ?
Looking for an 09 ram 1500
Check out BDS lifts here- bit.ly/2xof4kP
$600 is a HUGE price jump from $1000, it is literally more than half the original price EXTRA.
and it's double the worth in ride quality!
I was about to say, a 60% increase in price is more than a little, but once you look at the components, the materials, the nicer shocks, the new springs, etc. .. that extra $600 looks like a deal.
I said the same thing lol also, I’m sure you can get upgraded shocks for less than $600 in addition to the RC kit. We get it guys, BDS is in some facet a business asset to you guys. Nothing wrong with that.
AndrewM 100%
STREETRACEN4U and you get fox shocks and a nicer lift lmao
I've looked at so many lift kits for the specific model truck I'm looking at, and rough country is the only one who has a lift
What kind of truck?
@@Chris-sn3sj 3rd gen Cummins. Carli and some other companies have high quality stuff, but I'm looking for a simple lift. RC is the only one I could find that also has good reviews
Salvage Gaming I think Zone makes one too
Spend the money and go Carli with full leafs. Wasting your money for useless height otherwise
In this case definitely
When you have the factory snow plow heavy springs will the BDS coil springs be as strong? Or does something need added? 2018 F-350 SWB, CC, 6.7 on order.
Shoot us an email to info@customoffsets.com Rich, and we can help you out!
So I’m not sure if it’s just because of a popularity increase or what but the bds kit is no longer 1600 now it’s 3,317.81. I’m just wondering if that’s the same price y’all are getting as a dealer and also the link didn’t work for bds
I just got a rough country for my 95 k1500 and ilove it
By the way great video, but now you got to do it on an F150 or a light duty basically
Would the road shocks tires and inflation itself be the issue to yur so called bouncy fell.....?
With switching it up, it ended up helping ride substantially!
If you go in a truck like that and you expect to not feel a bump you are absolutely wrong you’re in a heavy duty truck some thing that is able to pull 15,000 pounds it’s gonna have a really strong springs, your going to fill the ride more comfortable pulling something because it’s a heavy duty truck they’re made to tow stuff it has way different spring stiffness than an F150
Save your money buy a Carli Suspension or Thuren Fab with King Shocks Fox shocks are junk.
Brandon Wilks planning on putting a Thuren Overland Extreme on a Ram 2500. Thuren and Carli is where it’s at!
Did you do a full blown Carli upgrade? I'm looking at a Carli setup now with the King Shocks + adding the 3" torsion sway bar. Not a cheap set up but looks like some of the best quality out there. Are you happy with the upgrade?
Thx for your opinion. Im looking to put in 10 inch lift with a BDS on my silverado 2011, but from what I understand BDS only goes up to 6inch. What is your opinion on other lift kits such as sky jacked, Rancho, Alloy USA or Rockready?
It is all personal preference however BDS is a great brand!!!
So what do you think would be better for a GMC Canyon diesel RC or Bds??
Mauro, what ever your wallet can withstand! RC works, gets the truck up there, BDS will add, additional ride quality, beefy parts etc!
I have a 7.5 in lift on my 2013 Silverado. Was looking at getting new struts from RC. They said I would have to take out the spacers. Is that true?
Yes you would Brandon. as the spacer is bolted to the factory strut, and if you're replacing the strut you'd need to take the spacer off the old strut and put it on the new one.
I honestly have a 6in RC lift for my 2017 tundra
Just for the looks
What do you think of it? We've done a few tundras recently, but not with RCX lifts. Would love to hear your input! - Fuller
I was interested in purchasing the 4 inch BDS lift kit for my 2020 GMC Sierra AT4 but was told there is a large back order because of everything going on. Long wait basically. The company who’s going to install my lift recommends a quicker lift and suggested Fabtechs 4 inch lift for the AT4. Anyone have any experience with this lift. Haven’t been able to find any reviews so I’m a bit skeptical
60% increase in price I hope bds is better
Thanks for all the great videos . Im trying to make a decision between 24x14 wheels and 24x16 wheels on 40 inch toyo mt tires. Is their any way possible for you to do a video on the RUclips with a side by side comparison of two trucks with these two setups ? Making this decision is driving me crazy i dont want to make the wrong choice I've looked at the gallery pics on custom offset website and im still having a hard time between the two sizes. I really want to see how much more 24x16 wheels stick out of vs 24x14 wheels.
2" further on each corner Josh! Just go 16 wides and be a badass!
I have a 2004 Jeep tj. Looking at getting a 2.5 inch suspension lift from rough country with 33 inch amp all terrain tires. What’s your opinion on that setup?
Great budget friendly lift setup Corey!
Wouldn't BDS and Zone be a better comparison since they're from the same Family of manufacturing
It would make a great video, if we get the opportunity to shoot it we definitely will!
I would disagree, that would be like comparing a Chevy to a GMC. Zone and BDS would have similar engineering however some BDS components would be better quality constructed or higher quality materials used and of course BDS has a life time warranty and Zone does not. Zone vs. Rough Country might be a better debate however their customer purchased a BDS so that's what they ran with.
BDS and Zone uses the same exact parts, BDS you pay extra for the name.
Also Zone has a lifetime warranty lol
so does BDS...
I know these are both 4in lifts but was there a difference in height at all?
nope!
They are different i have the rc 3 inch lift on my 2015 f250 and that is the same kit you took off that one. They make a 4.5 inch which has new coils they don't make a 4 inch with spacers. Also that track bar bracket is not the stock one that is the one for a 3 inch lift.
I have a 2007 Ford Ranger, I believe its either 3.2 or 3.4 V6.... I went onto your website to see what kind of lift kit I can get from your company..... A name brand called “Fabtech” came up as the only option, please be honest, is this a brand that you would put into a pickup like mine, or is there another name, under your umbrella, that you believe that will perform like it needs to... I have never made such a leap like this, to put a lift kit into a pickup truck, I just want to make sure I am making the right moves without my wallet and myself with having to suffer from any regrets...
Fabtech is a good lift for the price. If it is the only option for you truck it is not a bad way to go. We’ve installed quite a few at the shop, and our lead wheel designer has a Fabtech kit on his truck!
Custom Offsets, that’s awesome and great to know.... I thank you for letting me know. I most certainly will continue to watch your vids, and may consider purchasing the kit. I definitely will let you know. : )