Pletnev Plays Rachmaninov (video)-Piano Concerto N3, Part1
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- Опубликовано: 24 июн 2011
- Piano - Mikhail Pletnev, conductor - Valery Gergiev, Mariinsky Theatre Symphony Orchestra. April 29th 2003. Moscow, The Great Hall of the Moscow Conservatory.
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24 Марта 2021года. 9 Лет назад, -- запись от 2012года. ЗДРАВСТВУЙТЕ ! От виртуозности Феликса Мендельсона к виртуозности С.В.Рахманинова -- Пианиста, Дирижёра, Композитора ! ОГРОМНОЕ СПАСИБО Тебе, Мишенька, и симфоническому Оркестру под руководством Дирижёра Валерия Георгиевича Гергиева ! ! ! Мне понравилось ИСПОЛНЕНИЕ; хочется ПОГЛУБЖЕ понять, почувствовать Музыку и самого Сергея Васильевича Р. ! КРЕПКОГО ЗДОРОВЬЯ Тебе, Мишенька, ещё на ДОЛГИЕ-- ДОЛГИЕ Годы ! ! !
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Личность Михаила Васильевича Плетнёва МНОГОГРАННА ( многопланова), ГЛУБОКА, утончённо организована, КАК сама Музыка разных стилей и жанров; в Михаиле весьма органично, гармонично СОЧЕТАЮТСЯ эмоционально-чувственное и рациональное начала ! Михаила НУЖНО ХОРОШО ЗНАТЬ, чтобы ГЛУБОКО Его ЧУВСТВОВАТЬ И ПОНИМАТЬ, и ВСЕ произведения в Его ИСПОЛНЕНИИ ! ! ! Михаил В. Плетнёв по своему мировоззрению ТАК же ПРЕКРАСЕН, УМЁН, ИНТЕРЕСЕН, ГЛУБОК, УТОНЧЁН, СПРАВЕДЛИВ и ДОБР, как и САМА ВЕЛИКАЯ КЛАССИЧЕСКАЯ Музыка, как ВЕЛИКИЕ КОМПОЗИТОРЫ, творчеству которых Михаил ПРЕДАН ВСЮ СВОЮ ЖИЗНЬ ! ! ! Спасибо.
very very interesting and unique in all the recordings over the years!! It sounds totally new and afresh
great musician and pianist!
Все, что исполняет Михаил Плетнев, вдруг наполняется, каким-то только ему подвластным, новым смыслом!
БРАВО МИХАИЛ Плетнев большой мастер!
My favourite man playing my favourite Rachmaninoff - he knows that though! Just great - well the pianist is anyway. How lovely to have it on video. First encounter was the Festival Hall - same year, different orchestra - Philharmonia but the playing was just as lovely, as it is on disc with the his RNO. Thanks. What an enjoyable time I have listening.
с такой свободой и огнем! а еще говорят, что он сухой и замкнутый. тут такое сочетание страсти и интеллекта, и всё это кипит и борется!
love it
thanks
Это достойно Рахманинова. Вам может нравиться или не нравиться техника, манера, но невозможно не признать, что Плетнёв понимает что он исполняет и относится к этому с большой любовью и уважением. Это очень слышно!
Pletnev is totally inspired in this performance.A transcendental pianist walking in the footsteps of Rachmaninoff and Horowitz.I would love to get this on a DVD.
The most epic CONCERTO N. 3 l've ever heard...... incredible... :D...... woooowwwwww
so interesting and creative,like a new great piece!
Intérprete brillantísimo!!!
Well, when i was there listening to him play this concerto i thought this was the best performance of rach 3 i was listening to. Then some time later i asked a pro about this performance and he gave me quite a critical review. I am an amature pianist and this performance seems ingenious to me. I still remember when to the end of the first movement i suddenly looked at my right and saw a young woman wiping off her tears.
Leave him alone your pro......They all know better than Pletnev how to play.
Leave him alone your pro....They all know better than Pletnev how to play
Kelimu, I'm now wiping off my tears...(and I am a pro)...
Кем и где работает профессионал?
Awesome! I love it! This video should have more views to give better justice to Pletnev. He has been too underrated as a concert pianist by RUclips viewers!
My piano idol!
This is the perhaps one of the best interpretations of Rach 3 out there. His version left a deep impression on me no other pianists could. Nobody tells a story out of Rach 3 better than Pletnev.
Unsurpassed perfection, a pianistic MIRACLE! Reminiscent of Horowitz...
...de acuerdo, solo comparable con Horowitz
Рахманинов - ГЕНИЙ. Спасибо!
Pura magia di sonorità!
Here we have the difference between a pianist who just reads music and that one whose
heart and soul were made for music feelings. Mr. Pletnev has a perfect technique but
above all he is a sensitive pianist.
What he does with the first movement cadenza leaves everyone else in the shade.I have 18 recordings of the Rach 3 and this one is unique and in a class by itself.
Браво пианист Михаил Плетнев!
Браво композитор Сергей Рахманинов!
Hmmm - Do you think the spirit of Rachmaninoff graced this performance???? To think that he had performed in this very hall is inspiring. Pletnev plays effortlessly, and can get out of a piano what others only dream of. He is fabulous. I simply enjoy watching him perform. When I was young listening was enough. Now, older, I listen and watch differently. My appreciation for great music has grown in many ways . . . .
Some pianist have it. Most pianists don't. Pletnev definitely HAS IT!
By the way, it is so interesting to hear Pletnev give a towering performance of this concerto at the piano on one video and then watch him conduct the same concerto on another with pianist Hae-Sun Paik (also here on RUclips). Nice to see the world from both sides now.
Thank you very much Kelimu! One thing is sure, when one reads the piano part it becomes very clear how exceptionally well these maestros go through a veritable maze of difficulties of all sorts.
His cadenza beyond imagination... never heard anything like this since Horowitz... phenomenal
+Rolf Pianist Yes, but Horowitz played the other cadenza.
Typically, yes. But I think he played the ossia, too, just preferred the cadenza.
The most epic cadenza I've ever heard.
wow!
that can't be true!! I didn't knew that there is a video!
unbelievable!!!
Kelimu thx!!!
10:25 - 12:53
Genius.
Look at His eyes starting from 8.10. It's unbelievable.
Would even say more: anytime, any performance Pletnëv's I do listen, I can hear his musical breath and heart beats, so profound dedication to Music his is....
100% Josef Hofmann style. Love it!
PLEASE UPLOAD THE SECOND HALF! I WOULD MARRY YOU
This is priceless. Pletnev pays attention to transitions, thematic references and turns with their different sonorities from the very beginning on even if he intends just to accompany the orchestra. What he discovers in the score is countless. Pletnev stands above all difficulties of the partitura, he makes pure music. When he reaches the huge cadenza, the piano has turned an orchestra. The transparency is almost shocking. A magnificent performance that reveals to us the depths of this piece.
Its nice to speak with someone who knows what he is talking about I will try and get the set. For Rachmaninoff I feel Lugansky is one that is grossly missed the Prelude Opus 23-5 is just as you say EVERY note crystal clear, the best I have heard. Room acoustics and recording colors so many Giles playing this in the Russian Conservatory hall sounds like the sustain pedal is glued to the floor.
shocking acoustic, must have a reverb time of 500 milliseconds lol
Lazar Berman is a Titan and I don't think many get the Ossia out like he does, as someone said you feel like wrestling a Bear after having hear that, he stirs the soul :)
Personally I prefer Lugansky but both are equally capable. My personal favourite for bringing out the intertwining melodies and subtle nuances is Olga Kern at the 2001 Van Cliburn she won .
I have 30 recordings of the Rach 3 alone and 5 complete sets of all the Concertos which I've been listening to for over 50 years.Lugansky is consistently excellent.Both technically and musically he never goes off on a wild tangent or becomes totally unresponsive too the meticulous editing Rachmaninoff did of all his Concertos.Pletnev frequently thinks he knows more than the composer, and technically he is also excellent but musically inconsistent.Pletnev plays the 1st Concerto superbly however.
Carl, thank you. You said it very correctly. He thinks he knows more than the composer. Those were the words I was searching for.
There are some excellent performances that have never recieved the recognition they deserve:Thibaudet/Ashkenazy, Santiago Rodriguez, and you should hear Gavrilov's early account with Lazarev conducting.I changed my mind about this performance since Pletnev does not bring out the inner melodies clearly and distinctly especially in the 1st movement like Lazar Berman, Olga Kern (China International Piano Competition 1999 is even better than Fort Worth texas) and Valentina Lisitsa who I really like
@theurval
I was there. It wasnt easy for me to get the video, by the way
In addition to my previous comment about Pletnev being inconsistent musically as compared to Lugansky who always respects, identifies and adheres to Rachmaninoff's meticulous editing, I have 3 copies of Pletnevs stunning account of the Rachmaninoff 1st Concerto, Tchaikovsky 2nd Concerto, and the Rhapsody on a Theme by Paganini which is also available on a DVD entitled Berlin Philharmonic New Years Gala 1997 a real desert island must have.So sometimes Pletnev is incomparable and cant be surpassed
@Kelimu you haven't... or if you have i cannot find it, please could you if you have it?
To all knowledgeable people out there, if you please, how would you compare Pletnev's performance of this concerto to that of Lugansky? Thank you!
Lazar Berman was stereo typed by the critics when he was younger, as being a super virtuoso with little musicality.Critics can be very misleading.I wish Sony would re issue his superb account with Claudio Abbado, using a digital re mastering process.I also have his Brahms Concerto #1 which is fabulous.I believe you would like Gavrilov's early account with Lazarev conducting.I have 5 complete sets, and 30 individual recordings of #3.Weissenberg is marvelous, but takes the shorter cadenza.
I hope you may someday get the 2DVD set of the 1999 China International Piano Competition.Olga won the Bronze medal, but she uses very little sustaining pedal during the horrendously difficult passages, bringing out all the inner voicings with crystal clear clarity.Thats the way the great 19th century virtuosos were taught.I consider Horowitz/Reiner to be definitive however, in spite of the cuts.
The 19th century school of virtuoso pianism emphasized bringing out inner melodies among other things.Pletnev has some wonderful and magic moments here in the Rach 3.His 1st movement ossia cadenza is quite marvelous, as his 3rd movement also has some truly breathtaking moments.But his musicality is not consistent.A technically flawless performance, but a butchered 2nd movement.Hear Thibaudet/Ashkenazy or Byron Janis or Van Cliburn.They are consistent both musically and technically.
What do you mean not consistent musically ? You are right about bringing-out inner melodies among the rest- and that's why Pletnev is considered to be 19-century pianist, and that's why his playing sounds so stunning compared to ones of nowadays....And you can't take it from any school , you can either hear it or not.
@NataliaBogdanova надо говорить delayed by и артикль нельзя опускать))
по поводу задержки вините youtube))
The sound is delayed for 3 seconds with video
Yes agree so many miss the intertwining melodies so complex in this piece. I still keep going back to Olga Kern as she achieves all these attributes in spades. She extracts these melodies and makes every note sing like she was in the composers head. Lisista is always like she is on her way to a fire and as such shows great virtuosity and technique but misses the soul, her tempo is somewhat erratic IMHO
Truly a unique master performance, Pletnev quite simply is the best musician nowadays, what a magician. He always gives you something new, every note has a meaning. Not like these other boring performances you find nowadays. A shame he doesn't anymore play for public, every pianist should listen to his inspiring playing...
Всем (даже таким пианистам,как Плетнёв) замахнувшимся на 3конРахм,следует сначала послушать Гилельса (с Клюитенсом или с Орманди).
@msg355 Ok,Ok I will,tonight
Inner melodies or not (where do you hear flaws?), the three performances you mentioned (Berman, Kern, Lisitsa) do not even come close to Pletnev's understanding of this concerto. And his clarity remains unmatched among living pianists, in my opinion. You should have heared Pletnev "live", not just in a video of poor quality.
He is VERY good BUT Personally I think Lazar Berman wins by a nose :) Olga Kern gives it the most amazing level of dynamics and dramatics but with soul others just don't capture.IMHO
the first note is quite offensive! way to make an entrance!
What you suggest is a mystery to me.. Pletnev's genius floats above all pianists, along with Rach and Richter, Horowitz and Michelangeli. Daniil Trifonov has very much potential. I never claimed all young pianists are bad pianists. But comparing them to Pletnev's or Richter's performances etc. won't work.
Вот от прослушивания Гилельса я бы воздержался...во всяком случае не советовал бы это так настоятельно. Можно увязнуть в академизме. Aldo Ciccolini - это действительно замечательно, к сожалению только первая часть
Definitely not true, what you say about modern pianists..There's fantastic pianists today.. And your comment on young pianists is unfair, cos you watch Pletnev's videos with prejudice that he is a genius (which he is) ,but it's an advantage today's young pianists don't have..
Not only Trifonov.. Rafal Blechacz is a phenomenon..Yulianna Avdeeva has the best touch..With the slightly older people, Evgeny Kissin is probably better than Pletnev.. Lisitsa is quite good.. Stephen Hough is a genius.. Boris Berezovsky probably has a technique of Horowitzian levels.. There's quite a few geniuses out there..
To me Avdeeva, Blechacz and Lisitsa are average pianists concerning their Chopin and Rachmaninoff interpretations. Kissin is certainly not better than Pletnev in the interpretive sense. Pletnev's view on works is the view of a genius and opens dimensions most pianists can't reach. Even technically the pianists you mentioned are far from his level. He has a variety of touches that allows all sorts of tonal colours and especially his p and pp nuances are a class in itself.
It is not possible to compare Lugansky to Pletnev. Lugansky is a very good pianist but he is FAR from Pletnev's level of musicianship. Pletnev's emotional and dynamic ranges, his rubato and touch are exceptional and comparable only to what pianists like Horowitz and Richter were capable of. Which doesn't mean Lugansky isn't a fine pianist.
Van Cliburn played this the best, period.
There are lots of things he does with this piece that don't make any sense. It's disappointing.
Somewhat distorted. I find the exaggerations in poor taste and they make the interpretation uneven. This is not a 19th Century affectation, it’s just poor taste. Rachmaninoff doesn’t distort the music in this way.
Pletnev is great but not to the extent you say.. Ashkenazy, Pollini, Zimerman, Van Cliburn et al are far greater pianists in his generation.. And Avdeeva and Blechacz are average? Sounds funny.. Either you know an inhumanly great deal of music, or you're just having some delusive obsession with him..
Sorry but your argumentation lacks reasons.. I know every single recording of him and I know what the pianists you mentioned (Ashkenazy etc.) do with them, they are all very good pianists but they can't reach him pianistically.. Esp. his Chopin, Tchaikovsky and Rach recordings are only comparable to those of Rach, Richter,Horowitz and Michelangeli,maybe Hofmann. One might always discuss ideas of an interpretation but comparing him to Blechacz or Avdeeva reveals you lack musical insight..