2024 Mazda CX-90 PHEV Review // Skip Acura and Lexus? This Made-In-Japan Family SUV ticks ALL boxes
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- Опубликовано: 4 фев 2024
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Mazda's new 3-row SUV is packed full of luxury, sophistication, technology and an incredible driving characteristics only seen in luxury models. Does Mazda bring luxury to the masses in a family hauler?! #inline6 #turbo
New Three-Row Crossover SUV Offers Three Electrified Powertrains and 11 Models
2024 CX-90 will have a starting MSRP1 of $39,595 and will arrive in dealerships in spring 2023
CX-90 3.3 Turbo S models with the e-Skyactiv 3.3L Inline 6 Turbo engine has an EPA estimated 23 mpg city, 28 mpg highway, and 25 mpg combined
Standard e-Skyactiv 3.3L Inline 6 Turbo engine provides improved efficiency with an EPA estimated 24 mpg city, 28 mpg highway, and 25 mpg combined, while offering increased power from CX-9
CX-90 is available with a maximum towing capacity of 5,000 lbs.
The CX-90, which goes on sale this spring as a 2024 model, features an alluring design, well-crafted interior, and performance-oriented electrified powertrains.
2024 Mazda CX-90
THREE ELECTRIFIED POWERTRAINS
Available in three new powertrain options, CX-90 3.3 Turbo S, CX-90 PHEV, and CX-90 3.3 Turbo, the three-row crossover SUV will be offered with 11 packages to meet various customer needs.
CX-90 3.3 Turbo S is equipped with the e-Skyactiv G 3.3L Inline 6 Turbo, which is the most powerful mass production gasoline engine developed by Mazda, producing up to 340 horsepower and 369 lb-ft of torque when using the recommended premium fuel while achieving an EPA estimated 23 mpg city, 28 mpg highway, and 25 mpg combined.
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CX-90 PHEV is equipped with the e-Skyactiv PHEV powertrain, which is an electric motor mated to a 2.5-liter naturally aspirated four-cylinder engine that combined produce 323 horsepower and 369 lb-ft of torque when using the recommended premium fuel. The CX-90 PHEV is designed to operate purely on the electric motor in a variety of driving scenarios. To provide owners with flexibility and peace of mind, Mazda's 2.5-liter naturally aspirated four-cylinder engine has been adapted to work alongside the electric motor and 17.8 kWh high-capacity battery. This is helpful for longer drives or when the driver requires maximum acceleration, such as merging onto the freeway. EPA estimated range and fuel economy figures for the CX-90 PHEV will be shared closer to on-sale.
Also available is the CX-90 3.3 Turbo with the standard e-Skyactiv G 3.3L Turbo engine producing 280 horsepower and 332 lb-ft of torque with regular fuel that can achieve an EPA estimated 24 mpg city, 28 mpg highway, and 25 mpg combined. Both inline six engines are equipped with M-Hybrid Boost, a 48-volt mild-hybrid system, providing efficiency without compromising its remarkable performance.
All three powertrain choices are paired with Mazda's new eight-speed automatic transmission, specifically designed for the electrified longitudinal powertrains and large platform. The electric motor is placed between the engine and transmission, creating smooth acceleration from a standstill, and allowing the motor to directly power the CX-90 at low speed.
All CX-90 models are equipped with standard features that provide drivers with Mazda's signature driving dynamics and confidence. This includes Mazda Intelligent Drive Select, or Mi-Drive, with Sport and Off-Road modes, Kinematic Posture Control, a software feature first debuted on the MX-5 Miata that suppresses body lift on tight corners to enhance the grip and help all occupants to maintain a natural posture, and i-Activ all-wheel drive (AWD) technology are both standard on all CX-90 models.
As with all Mazda vehicles, safety is a priority for the CX-90 for both the driver and all occupants. Standard i-Activsense2 safety features include Smart City Brake Support, Blind Spot Monitoring, Mazda Radar Cruise Control with Stop & Go, Driver Attention Alert, Lane Keep Assist with Lane Departure Warning, and Rear Cross Traffic Alert. All CX-90 models also include a new rear seat alert feature to help avoid accidentally leaving objects or occupants still in the rear seats when exiting the vehicle.
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I forgot to include in my edit the feel of the EV-only driving experience. You feel the transmission shifting through the gears unlike most eCVT PHEV or 1-speed EVs. You also hear the transmission whine and shifts. Still very smooth and quiet but gives feedback unlike most plug-in cars. It's quite different and enjoyable from a car enthusiast.
When you pop the hood, engine automatically comes on provided your ignition is on. PHEV owner here.
Also just got a mazda cx-30 ad on here lol!
I hope you drove it in Sport mode and floored it. That's the only mode when you have full access to the 319HP/369TQ at all times.
Great, I hope we see less cheap cost dit cheap to make hard to repair cvt and single speed transmissions and more manual dual clutch simulated manuals, and fast smooth progressive multi speed automatics in gas hybrid and even electrics.
I just leased one of these (same color and trim too), and I love it. It gets me all the way to work and sometimes almost all the way back without even turning on the engine. Even when the engine is on, it still gets decent mileage. My kids love it, because they have more leg room in the second row now (we had a Prius v before). I do wish it had more space in the trunk, but with only two kids, I can just fold down the rear seats, if I need to. Even if we did have one more, I could always just fold down the other two. I'm hoping that I'll continue to love it for the next three years, and if so, I'll probably buy out the lease.
Jesus Krief!!! I love the thumbnail of Big Kirk, lil Kirk and the Kirkites!!!
Any more kiddos and he’s gonna have to get one of those Sprinter vans to fit them all! Maybe time for the old snip snip?
Fair and honest review Kirk. I purchased the PHEV for the same reasons you liked it. As fast as the I6 Turbo S, amazing gas mileage when you plug it in daily and good gas mileage when you don’t.
It is funny, I just watched another recent review where they basically said the I6 was so much better than the PHEV. Also, from what I have heard, the PHEV is the model that Mazda has a difficult time keeping in stock.
So far, I think it is about fifty-fifty I6 vs PHEV when it comes to reviewers.
Best 8 seater PHEV out there.
Not hardly an eight seater unless you put three children in the back!
Have one. Traded in a hybrid MDX. Hated that Acura decided to abandon the hybrid. But this Mazda is sweet. Grew up in a Mazda. Parents had two 626's and my first car was a RX-7. Have had it since December and have been to the gas station twice! Yes, it gets plugged in daily. But electricity is still cheaper and cleaner than gas! Love this PHEV! Great review.
Wow lol cool thumb nail I bet you are pretty busy every day with family life 👍🏻
Great review, spot o with my experience with a Preferred Plus PHEV... am looking forward to spring temps to bet the 26 mi EV range
Great review, would have loved to ride in this thing as a kid 😂
Why didn't you show off the full power of the engine in Sport mode?
We have the Premium PHEV. If you're not charging the battery at home and instead are using the recharge mode there's no reason to buy/lease this vehicle. 😂
Normal mode is just the 2.5L NA motor until you floor it you get the hybrid boost.
Sport mode is what I use for any on ramp or if I need to get around somebody. It's the engine and the battery combined for 319 HP and 369 TQ on 87. Seems like a missed opportunity to show that it accelerates to 60mph faster than the inline-6 Turbo S.
The greige interior has a better light faux woodgrain interior trim instead of the stuff you don't like. You can only get the greige on the Preferred and Premium and it goes better with the light headliner.
The Bose is quite good but you have to get the settings right.
Leaving the Regen on high is great, it's like slowing down with a manual transmission.
Android Auto and Carplay are quite easy to use with the rotary dial. Just use the buttons dedicated for music and navigation to switch back and forth and get your destination set before taking off.
Hey Kirk blessings for those beautiful kids, and my respects for having such a big family and working so hard to publish great content as you always do with no signs of slowing down. Mazda has always been in one of my favorites, as a driver of a 2008 CX9, that still going strong but screaming for a replacement 😂 was looking forward to the cx90 release hoping for a more adult friendly third row. Is a shame that they drop the ball just in that aspect because is an amazing car. But for my growing family it seems there is no better option than a minivan at this moment. Keep with the amazing work you are doing. Look forward to know about the 2025 Japan built Toyota Sienna, will they give us a PHEV version?
Minivan is the best answer for bigger families. Just can't beat a van!
As soon as I hear more about next Sienna, and other pHEV vans I'll update too!
Beautiful family and great review of the new CX-70 :) I kid I kid but seriously it's mind boggling that despite record sales, Mazda went the extremely safe and cheap route of making the CX-70 simply a third row delete CX-90. Extremely disappointed in them but I look forward to the CX-50 hybrid
it´s really good for people where wants luxury feeling for a fair price, thanks Kirk 😀
Kirk, great review. How would you compare this to the Grand Cherokee 4xe PHEV?
The fit and finish look excellent 😮
Great review, Kirk! PHEVs are just the way to go these days with the poor infrastructure here in the US, cold weather in the northeast (I’m from Long Island NY) etc etc, with these said I’m truly enjoying my Kia Sorento PHEV SX prestige trim with trouble free 24k miles for the past two plus years
Awesome
Are the cam chains on the front if tgr engine ?
Ir sandwiched between the transmission, like they are on the IL 6. ?
And what mileage did you get in real life driving ?
The Crosstrek PHEV has lane centering and it is definitely useful on my bi-weekly long trip.
Hey Kirk, other than the horsepower and torque, what are the differences between Turbo and Turbo S?
Anything on top of your mind?
I'm thinking some of the refinement that you talked about over the inline6 is possibly due to this version having the latest software updates applied to it. We own a Turbo S premium model, and recently had the new software update installed. The difference is night and day as far as overall drivetrain smoothness. When we first bought it I found myself disabling the iStop because I found it a bit intrusive as well. After getting home from the dealership with the software update, I realized that I left the iStop on and never noticed it.
If you have the opportunity to drive an updated turbo S, I think you'll feel the same.
Can't wait to test it out!
I own a PHEV and I am currently driving a Premium Plus loaner while my PHEV is at the dealer. I really do not feel the iStop turning on and off.
I wanted a 7 seater with the 360 camera so for me it was between a Premium Plus PHEV or a Premium Plus base Turbo. I chose the PHEV because of the superior power along with the higher gas mileage.
However, with the recent price reductions, and after a few days driving the base Turbo in Premium Plus trim I likely would have been my choice if I were buying today.
I was willing to pay 5,000.00 more for the PHEV… but $10,000.00 more… I don’t know Lamont.
I had 4 kids (3 daughters and a son). The picture you had is magical but fleeting; in your memory it will only last for a few minutes.
There are Diono brand tight three across seats you can buy. Made with metal frame, they are very high quality. You don't have to have a three row.
Good for occasional drive with all kids.
This is it favorite new suv. The only issue i see in the future is repair costs. Timing chain is installed on the back of the engine. So this and other repairs will require the engine to be lifted for any work to be done.
Great family❤
I hope Mazda brings the smaller cx60 to the USA.
But this is great for larger families
Not gonna happen, they have the CX-5, CX-50 AND CX-70... Yeah, def a mistake to make an entire model for literally a third row delete and slightly different styling (CX-70), but too late to make it smaller like the CX-60
Sadly, a huge 2-row CX90 as the 70 is all we'll get.
@KirkKreifels sadly it's huge on the outside but only class competitive on the inside. Which is the main issue. You'd really have to want that extra underfloor storage and be ok with 200+ inches of car to want the 70 over the 90. Especially when a current gen Santa fe, Pilot or Atlas CS probably offer the same space in a shorter vehichle.
@@th003g yet fwd biased cars will have more space in general.
How does the MDX compare.
@@Tigerex966 mdx has identical cargo space with all seats folded, more with third row in place and is 3 inches shorter. Acura also falls victim to wanting to design a more flowing design, their cars have a long front overhang.
Cx90 has slightly more interior space than a Sorento yet is longer than a telluride.
So, how much more (leg&head)room is in the 3rd row compared to the outgoing CX-9? Because everyone is complaining that this new one does not have enough room in the 3rd row.
CX-50 has had the ability to be a full time CarPlay touchscreen since launch. Not sure how far back that goes on the CX-5, but I know it is in the 2024 of that car too. Likely in the CX-30 as well. They just hid it away in that menu. When I bought my CX-50, I blew their minds when I turned this on.
Yep!
i love it, its absolutely breathtaking. i would take it over bmw, audi, and even lexus. amazing looking inside out. only downside- i would like to have a bench 2nd row in a higher trims as well....
Is there a setting to where you can have it charged up the battery using the motor? I would want to do that say use it around town then you go for a long trip you’ll let it charge it up and then when you get to another town you use the electric
While driving, the CX-90 PHEV can be put into “Charge Mode” which uses the engine to charge the battery to a preset level (which you can set). But it will always operate the electric motors in some capacity
5:47 😍😍😍😍😍
@kirkKreifels, Hey Kirk, How do you compare this with Lexus TX plug in hybrid , especially from the driving dynamics perspective?
I haven't driven the TX PHEV yet sorry mate!
I just have one question for Kirk. Will you buy it？
Kirk, If I squint it looks like a wagon. When does the Sienna Prime come to market? 🤔
The display screen does seem a bit small compared to most other brand midsize SUVs...
so what you are saying is, they need to make the inline6 make more power if they want it to be significantly better besides the higher trims (ur not saying that, but you get me)... mmm, I would love that.
Small mistake noticed Kirk, the electric engine actually produces 170 hp (125kw), that's how the combined hp is 323hp😊
I have had mine since July, I love it BUT--it only charges to 16-18 miles. And Mazda keeps saying there is variation and it is normal, but I find that this is unacceptable. I am sensitive to battery issues because I have a Nissan LEAF in my driveway that is undriveable due to the battery.
The 2.5L 4 is very noisy when push hard
More importantly would you, Kirk take it over the Sienna!?!?
My electricity rate is over 30 cents per kWh including all the fees in Massachusetts, and premium gas is around $4.2 per gallon, so charging 17.8 kWh battery costs about $5 which is more expensive than gas if providing only 25 miles of range.
yeah price of electricity is huge factor to take into consideration, where I live electricity is at 6.7 cents canadian per kWh ( right about 5 cents US )while fuel being at around 7.20 $ per gallons so a PHEV is a no brainer here
Risking a slightly different opinion. I testdrove one and tbh as much as the driving is smooth the interior is nowhere near as practical as some of the competition. The front seats are not as comfy (my own taste I guess).There are little things: the driver and the passenger' storage is tiny, the trunk is small, rear doors do not have touch opening ..etc. Overall the outside huge of a car impression does not match the interior. Don't hate me it's only my own personal experience 😂
Quit talking with your hands, you’re blocking the shot!!! 😂
What about reliability?
18:36 Florida moment
Can confirm, truly a Florida moment
CX-70 should've been called the CX-90 Touring, or Sport. Or something along those lines. As much as I love Mazda, they should've known better. It's the same vehicle.
CX-70 should have been called CX-9 :)
Cx-88
@@raymondgraber9629 LoL. That works too.
A mini van is still the most comfortable option for a true 8 seater. I’ll take a sienna hybrid over this.
After watching tons of reviews of 3 row SUVs, and having kids, I'd just stick with a van to be honest.
I want this powertrain in my van...I'd die happy
I own a Mazda CX90 Preferred Plus. I give my cars away to relatives and didn't want to spend $60,000 on the PHEV version.
Would you prefer this or the atlas for your family?
CX 70 or CX 90? I only need five seats but, the CX 70 is so dumb I'd have to buy the CX 90. At this point the only thing that will save the CX 70 is a price that would drastically undercut the 90.
It was certainly puzzling. Maybe they plan to increase the size of the CX-50 in the near future to bridge the gap, especially after it is offered in hybrid and since there's no slowing down the similarly sized CX-5 sales.
I'd argue it would also leave some room for a mid-size sedan. But that's just me.....
People seem to forget that Mazda is no volume mover like GM. You can't expect a billion different variants of cars for a small-ish-volume manufacturer. It's great that they can feed the SUV frenzy with CX-70 / 90, yet will manage to spare budget for some hopefully more compact future cars (not SUVs) - 🙏.
I do not see building future customers up with something then letting them down helps with sales, small or not. This vehicle could have been a CX 90 with a seat delete, which I'm sure would have been cheaper for small Mazda to produce.@@David_Journey
@@David_JourneyThey do have the CX60 overseas
@@wyw201 I think people’s expectations are always inflating. Let’s assume CX-60 makes it to the US. The more corpulent types will complain about narrower body. You cannot please everyone.
Mazda’s are typically depreciated rockets especially compared to Acura and Lexus
I really don't see how this is anything special compared to an Acura or Lexus or why it is even comparable when the pricing of this is based off an economy car. The MDX and TX design finish and interior quality is just so much better than this lol. Wouldn't comparing the CX-90 to the Grand Highlander be more applicable? I'd also recommend everyone getting the Grand Highlander over this just based on value and depreciation alone.
no lane centering on top trim, no touch screen/smaller screen on top PHEV trim, and cant even put in a stroller behind 3rd row without taking off the wheels.... a lot of compromises compared to toyota GH
crazy Canadians! lol
The mazda cx90 is a maintenace nightmare, the whole engine needs to be pullled if anything goes wrong.... there are better technical reviews out there.
The PHEV interior is quite the let down compared to the inline six. Cost cutting. Black upon more black is dark and dull. Shame.
Under 30 miles usable EV range? The RX PHEV gets at least 40. On the positive side it has a 8 speed automatic instead of an E-CVT.
RX costs way more, and has no 3rd row seat. If you mean TX... that is priced in a different league (20k+ $ price gap).
@@David_Journey agree. Mazda is very reasonably priced.
RX 450h+ is 70k iirc. This starts at 50k.
The negative with PHEV cars is that when the EV battery runs out, there will be significant HP drop? Especially on road trips
Not usually no. PHEV systems usually maintain enough reserve charge to maintain full operation. If it's drained then immediately take on the Autobahn to set a top speed endurance record, yes. But cruising at highway speeds in modern cars usually has the vehicle in the lower quarter to lower third of the RPM range, only using a fraction of peak horsepower. It wouldn't need to access the battery power anyway until the throttle get mashed.
On highway trips the vehicle will switch to charging the EV battery up to a minimum level rather than pulling from it, even if it's in standard hybrid mode and not e-save mode. If the highway gets busy and the driver starts speeding up and slowing down the battery will have plenty of juice to kick in as normal.
PHEV CX-90 owner here. Even at 20% charge left and recharge mode active (which means no pure electric operation) - the ICE I-4 engine demonstrated eagerness to accelerate uphill at freeway speeds and still have passing power left. If absolute speed all the time is your priority -- Inline-6 has you covered. If you want to save some gas here and there, PHEV is a better option. Especially if you are facing congestion, where PHEV gives a break for gas engine / idling / running A/C.
Nope the battery holds battery for full power. For some reason Kirk never demonstrated Sport mode which is the full 319HP and 369TQ on display.
@@David_JourneyEven at 0% battery you still have full power in Sport mode. It reserves battery you don't have access to in EV mode.
The only thing you lose when you dont have enough battery is the ability to drive on electricity only for anything but creeping along.
The mazda cx90 is a maintenance nightmare.... watch a good technical review from The Car Care Nut Reviews
The car is already egg shaped... The camera makes more egg shaped 😅
I would take the Lexus GX over this if I could afford new.
"Promo sm" 😋
What I learned from this video is to never have kids.
This thing just looks odd
5 kids ?! You never pull out lol
I’m surprised you even know how to pull out of a parking spot
Congratulations
lmao he wanted a boy
Hey some people just like and have wanted large families! Likewise myself.
Growing up as an only child, thanksgiving and christmas were always fairly lonely so that's something I decided I wouldn't want for my children when I have them,
Yes, skip them! Totally overpriced compared to the CX-90. And CX-90 has the longest wheelbase (123" vs 116.1/112.2")
Unfortunately the CX-90 is quite small on the inside, it’s closer inside to a regular Highlander than let’s say a TX. The MDX would provide with more legroom and less headroom and the TX is just much bigger overall and if you go for a plug-in TX, albeit it’s much more expensive, you get more power, more range, better efficiency and you get a V6.
@@alwaysiyi272 20k+$ more expensive plugin hybrid TX is not in same price league. In that case you may as well include a BMW X7 etc... suddenly you have other choices with better driving characteristics than the FWD-biased Lexus TX can ever achieve.
@@alwaysiyi272 I don't see how the MDX and LX with 9" and 7" shorter wheelbases have more room on the inside than the CX-90.
@@gregp.7148 So yes you are right the CX-90 has a longer wheel base but if you look at its dash to axle ratio, it’s very long, the hood of the CX-90 is incredibly long because it has to fit the I6 on a RWD chassis so while on the outside the CX-90 is a much longer vehicle, on the inside it’s much smaller because they’ve essentially had to shrink the passenger space to make room for the engine and RWD layout, as compared to the MDX and TX which were designed to fit smaller 4 cylinder and V6 engines transversely on a FWD platform which always companies like Toyota and Honda to really maximize the space in their vehicles especially in the case of the TX
@@David_Journey I get what you’re saying but I’m saying that the TX is the only plug in that combines space and efficiency very well. You’re right the TX plug in is expensive but even at that price point your only viable option is a Volvo XC90. To my knowledge, which I could be wrong, there’s no plug in X7, GLS, Q7, even the Aviator Plug in Hybrid was axed
You’re better off getting rav4 prime or outlander phev than Mazda cx-90.
Outlander PHEV may be underpowered for road trips. It solely relies on gas engine as a generator, which may not pull you up a hill or tow.
Getting a Rav4 Prime... the "getting" part is the problem. Since 2023 you will be looking into markups and 6+ month waitlist on a commodity SUV. We can't compare spec sheets of vehicles that have less space (2 row only), and only available in theory.
If you need 3 rows, then R4P isn't an option. Outlander PHEV is too small for my family. CX90 phev works, just not ideal compared to a minivan.
And CX90 PHEV are everywhere. Rav4Prime is difficult to find one.
@@KirkKreifels ok if you’re specifically going for a three row phev, then that’d make sense. Even then cx90 is overly expensive for a phev. With Toyota, when it’s available, it depends on area where you’ll either experience markup or not.
@@David_Journey here in Santa Rosa, you don’t pay much above msrp. The base trim is $47k
at $60k way overpriced..with lacking features like no auto steer/centering lane assist. Genesis offers more luxury and better tech for the $60k..PVEH WASTE OF MONEY. For only a 26miles drive
$7,500 EV rebate and a high residual makes it a steal of a lease.