When It All is Just Too Much - Prof. Jordan Peterson
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- Опубликовано: 2 сен 2017
- Psychology professor and clinical psychologist Jordan B. Peterson sheds some light on the early stages of paranoid schizophrenia and contemplates the often devastating life circumstances of his patients.
This is only a small excerpt of Dr. Peterson’s comprehensive lecture of “2017 Maps of Meaning 7: Images of Story & MetaStory” you can watch entirely here: • 2017 Maps of Meaning 0...
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whats to much is dealing with two groups who debate over which god is the real god, allah vs god both sides argue the other is wrong and only their allah or god is righteous
I fell into burnout this year for being overwhelmed and my wife of 35 years abandoned me. It really shows you who is really there for you in your time of need.
So sorry to hear that
idk the story but im sorry. screw her
@ no it had to do with being a caregiver for my terminal father. I guess I never properly dealt with my grief.
Update, my wife filed for divorce 3 weeks after abandoning me. I've pushed past this and started online dating after two months of separation. I'm 60 but now dating 35 to 45 year old attractive and educated women with very high prospects of a new long term relationship. Life is good again.
the real face of women, that´s why a im not getting married. Nowadays love is gone the day you are down and that is not how it suppost to be. Sir i really wish you the best, hope you make it
The issue is that we have to live in highly stressful environments: low incomes, high cost of living and we can't afford to pay for the professional help to make us better. It all becomes too much, and when people crack, they either get arrested, killed, or some little shit films it and uploads it to tiktok or instagram.
Yup. Wages too low cost of living too high. More than half of my problems could be resolved by a lower cost of living
But Thank the Lord we have this man Jordan Peterson to guide us we just need to care about ourselves xx
My life has become unbearable. Forever trying to focus on the blessings…but the compounded losses have left me defeated without support
i have u in my prayers, never lose hope.
I hear you. Life is not fair sometimes. Thinking of you. ❤
Same here...😞exactly !
... and for me. It's caused endless stress, anxiety, insomnia.and depression .
Same. How are you now?
Praying for restoration and Grace 🙏
Nobody can understand what it is like to lose all the people you love until it begins to happen to them.
100%
I'm isolated
I know it exactly
@@monjiaitaly so true.
Having suffered from a psychosis indused jump from a 20 meter tall building, shattering my legs and breaking my back causing spinal chord injury, I agree with this 100 %. It was 3 years ago and now I'm just constantly asking myself "What am I supposed to do?" "How do I lead a life when I can't work?" Just because I learned to walk again doesn't mean that I'm not in constant pain when doing so. Not to mention the mental issues that has come with this whole ordeal, paranoia, voices, obsessive thoughts.
On a brighter side it does mean I can explore my creatvie side and for that I'm happy.
snusify
Are you still,around? I've considered doing that
@@thereisnosanctuary6184 Keep the faith in yourself. Positive thoughts now, are better than regrets later.
May I ask what the uh, delusion? was that made you jump?
Use the creativity to find a way out you can do it
Investigate bible and the person of Christ. He saved me from some similar darkness. Not going to push it on ya but at least check it out.
This is so relevant to everything thats happened in my life this last few years. Its no wonder i cracked.
What do you mean by you cracked ?
@@johnwayne2700 went through hardship that they couldn't handle
@@Maynza You can be a helpful beast sometimes. My poor english probably meant something along the lines of "How did it manifest itself that you had cracked ? "
I felt the same way for the last 10 years of my life.. and my family was so toxic that I smoked and drank like mad.
Lost a 6 year relationship with my girlfriend and became unable to communicate and only yelled when I spoke to anyone... man.. it was hell..also my family and friends has excommunicated with me for the last 10 years and I'm only....27 years old..and my birthday is coming up and I haven't heard from anybody from since I was 22 years old..
Hi Ken. Hopefully today is better for you. Let me know if you want to talk. For me, Coming unto Christ in mighty prayer and keep praying and learning has helped me at times and over time.
Well said. The word "crisis" is just that, a crisis and we need help, assistance. Not fear, anger and mistreatment.
If you’ve been there, you know how unbelievably on point he is on this. He’s a gift to all that appreciate him.
I just have to say loosing the ability to Run and walk, and loosing work opportunitys that require that is utter hell.
Viridian same here
Absolutely to lose your ability 2 excellent health and to become disabled unable to exercise jogging walking would be absolutely terrible.
I worked in pychiatry 14 years only as a auxillary nurse but i made a difference i still have patients see me after ive left , they are welcome into our group of friends 👍👍
This all sounds pretty true. One of the leading causes of male suicide is erectile dysfunction that doesn't respond to medication or therapy; the man in question begins by losing confidence in himself and ends by concluding that he is beyond help, that every sexually capable male is his superior (therefore he doesn't 'deserve' sex) and that companionship is simply outside his dimension of life's possibilities; hence, life is out of control.
I always find it repulsive how society and the media find erectile dysfunction a massive source of amusement. I lost a very good friend to this issue and I felt so powerless to help him. Every time I hear someone joke about impotence I want to spit in their faces.
I'm sorry for your loss Og
"a friend"
Gordon Martin Only if it gets hard first! LMFAO
Erectile dysfunction is usually caused by 1.Low male hormones & too much estrogen, 2.Poor blood circulation, 3.Anxiety or depression which makes people moody, and almost all antipsychotic drugs can also affect erectile functions, the first two problems are easy to deal with, the third one is the tough issue.
He was unable to see outside of that box of self-pity. Yes he was in agony however if only he had values and meaning Beyond self.
When you deal with the terminal illness of your wife or husband you really have NO idea what's coming. Initially you freak out over the news, but there's an incredible amount of pressures that you don't even consider appearing until they do. I went to my GP and explained how it's fucked me up. Watching them die is some of the trauma, but holding your life together while you try to deal with it is impossible without some real assistance and understanding from your wife, to theirs and your family, to friends who mostly do not hang around, to work, and coming to grips with your life during and after. My future after her inevitable passing is like looking at a massive blank white board with nothing on it. You just can't prepare for any of it. The comment my GP made did make a huge difference to my head space though. You worry about the depression that comes from the overwhelming volume of stuff. You feel like you've failed and lost because of that depression. He said it isn't so much depression (which is a symptom) but what he called transition disorder. When everything was normal with hopes and dreams and plans, then that changes course to an entirely different direction. It doesn't come with a users manual and you're scrambling with so much it becomes too much to cope with. You're mourning her, yourself as well because your life as you were planning it is over, and then having to be a carer while keeping everything together with work and everything else. Incredibly traumatic stuff. Sorry, just started typing.
Exactly.... that's what happened to me...
I lost it to the stress , anxiety, insomnia, and depression.
... I lost my career job as well. That was the last straw... im unable to do anything. I haven't any desires anymore.
I've always said this especially to those who have had it easier than the ones they judge
It's so interesting hearing that from Mr Peterson, just as he reach to his state over a medicine that was supposed to help him with his anxiety developed by a "monster" in the form of his wife's cancer.
It really could happened to anyone, both informed and misinformed about the damages, and we should all be aware that reality can strike hard, no matter your mental state, the drugs you use or success you have acquired.
Such strong words from Mr.P
I'm going through this as we speak. He's 100% correct.
IM WITH YOU.!! ... THE SAME.
.... He spoke as if he knew what I was going through,.. and that I've tried everything,.. talked to everyone... but my catastrophes!, losses , are so unbearable and cannot get back. The Stress, anxiety, insomnia and depression.
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Praying for restoration and Grace
@@ShepardfortheLord 🙏🏾
Jordan Peterson is brilliant - I went through exactly what he described; 6 monsters hitting me at once and 'it was hell'. I wish someone prepared me.
Same here...
I didn't know how to handle..
Wasn't told of the high level of stress could cause Anxiety, insomnia and depression.
It already was bad enough
... this suffering is inhumane
It's so on point, I've been going through it for more than 10 years now and my mom broke and fell ill and it's exactly how it's said here.
To everyone in here , things are going to get better for us one day! Hang in there!
I'm trying,... it's too overwhelming. Nothing has helped. .... I've exhausted every resource... the endless loop.
I needed this
This is spot on.
This is me. Cracked. Got on Zoloft and found a new employer. I did bounce back but I see that I’m still much closer to overwhelm than I’d like to be. I got off the meds. I have very bad word recall, I’m easily agitated, things feel difficult. I fixed the toxic job problem, but now that I’m “broken” it’s very hard to be a father of three young kids. Everything is good yet I struggle.
I have accumulated so many problems by ignoring them due to lack of will to live, that now that my firstborn is here and gave me purpose, I feel like an ant fighting an elephant. And then the little will and motivation you started building back again, are being quickly drained by the acts of other people who just see you as weak and selfish, take your firstborn away from you and leave after years of you risking your mental health by helping her with traumas, anxiety and insecurities. But what doesn't kill you....
This is extremely helpful.
He nails it again. Be prepared!
I find this spectacularly interesting as a case of a genuinely genetic mental illness, but I don’t doubt his words.
My life was (and is) actually very good, I have two well socialised parents, a loving sibling, financial stability, adequate childhood attention, my intelligence was encouraged and able to flourish, etc.
I could go down the list but you get my point. The only “trauma” I experienced was a minor series of personal and social issues surrounding my sexuality and coming out (as gay). But that was resolved fairly quickly and I bounced back. I had no reason to collapse.
Then I began hearing things. Popping, static, at first. Randomly. It just startled me from nowhere, and I’d just ignore it. It would progress. I’d ask people “Can you hear that?” And I’d get frustrated that no one seemed to.
I didn’t realise I was actually hallucinating till it became an actual voice. Y’kno like when you’re wearing headphones, and it seems like some noise happened outside of your headphones, like someone calling your name, so you remove one headphone to listen around like, to confirm whatever you heard? But then you realise that no one actually called your name?
It was like that, most people experience it very occasionally and shrug it off, I experienced it daily. I’d swear I heard someone say something but I just couldn’t figure out what the words were.
Then the words became clear, and they weren’t pleasant at all. First singular words, then sentences, seemingly random, but then always of negative things “Faggot” was a common one (which I can reasonably understand, having unpleasant memories attached to that word).
I realised I really needed help when I almost killed myself and my sister driving, I literally heard a cut off scream right in my left hear, clear as day, and freaked out. Thankfully I’m a good, trained driver and didn’t injur myself or anyone, but after panicking and then realising there was genuinely nothing there I consciously realised I was hearing things.
As time went on, I started seeing things. (Which is actually rare, by the way. Only 10% of hallucinogenic schizophrenics see things as opposed to just hear them). But I’m one of the lucky few. Again, small at first, shadows out of the edge of my vision, id startle and turn and nothing would be there.
The first time I truly thought “I can’t do this” was when I saw a spider, a huge, fucking spider lunge at me in the middle of my bedroom writing an essay (I’m deathly afraid of spiders). I cannot fully articulate the feeling of both absolute abject terror, with absolute abject hoplessness. At least if there was a bloody spider there then there’s a thing I can point to that I can show people for why I’m acting this way, and at least I can confront it. But no, it just came from nowhere.
Spiders happen because I’m afraid of them, it was… hell. I mean it man, hell. Imagine the absolute most terrifying thing you can, your worst phobia personified as a physical being or entity, then imagine it literally jumping right at you from nowhere at random times with no warning.
That’s when I committed myself. My parents didn’t want to force me into any kind of facility (for loving reasons). But I’m quite an intelligent person and I knew myself well enough to know that if this progresses I cannot trust myself to keep myself and the people I love safe.
I got treated with medications, and they really helped. My hallucinations really calmed after being medicated.
Funnily enough the main therapy I had to do was to train out my fear/startle response. Which is REALLY freaking hard. Like imagine if a spider crawled across your hand *right now.* What’s your instinctual response? Recoil and flail your hand. I couldn’t react like that to *any* fearful or startling stimuli because 9/10 chances it wasn’t there. I had to train myself out of my natural bodily response.
Nowadays, I still see things. A clown is the most common thing (for some reason I have no clue. I’m not even afraid of the damn things but). It’s usually just sorta… there, in the background.
When I’m emotional or insecure, I see a girl. I can’t describe her features even though I know what she looks like (freaky right?) And she whispers in my ear whatever horrible intrusive thoughts happen to be on my mind that day.
Spiders still happen sometimes and it really, REALLY sucks. It’s the one that causes a startle fright response that I just can’t help but react to.
Like I can ignore the clown, I can ignore the girl, I can logically understand that they’re not real and focus on other things. But the spiders… ugh, they just suck.
My schizophrenia is due to a genuine illness. There was never anything in my environment that manifested into my disease, I just happened to get it. So, not to detract from Peterson’s points, genetic psychiatric conditions do genuinely exist, it’s just that they can also be caused by people’s environmental factors.
Even though I was cursed with my disease, I thank god (not really, fate?) every day that I didn’t get the paranoia along with the hallucinations. Those were bad enough, but I had enough of my rational self at hand to respond to therapies and treatments. I wasn’t delusional, I wasn’t believing things that weren’t true. I was seeing things that weren’t there. There is a very important difference there. You can think of it this way, there was nothing wrong with my CPU (brain). I was just being given a bunch of junk data (hallucinations) that I had to process. Others with delusional schizophrenia have problems with even being able to actually reason in any meaningful capacity and that’s what makes them so hard to treat. You can’t even root them in a basis of reality to *begin* the treatment process from to start with.
That’s why, despite everything, I’m lucky. I have schizophrenia but I retained by higher facilities. Many with my disease don’t, and it really sucks. And it mostly sucks because they are that way for absolutely no reason.
As this is somewhat related to the video, I would like to let you know that Dr. Peterson and his colleagues developed the online program “Self Authoring” bit.ly/SelfAuthoring that helps you to analyze your past, to get your present life in order and to identify a more rewarding path for your future.
It’s not free, but it has been proven to work in studies performed with university students. (Sorry, I make this sound like some toothpaste ad).
Jordan Peterson Fan Channel is an official affiliate of the program, so if you follow the link through, you will not only support Jordan Peterson and his endeavors but also this channel in a small way - and most importantly yourself.
I am 62 yo and I had to reinvent myself twice.
I am high in creativity and equally in order and in neuroticism (woman INTJ Type - 0.5 percent of the population).
I need inner/outwards freedom independence as much as safety.
When you lose everything at once you still have yourself to quickly reinvent yourself for your next step.
These tools - that Peterson offers and others - offers a floating device while you strategise the new you. The tools give you the big view of what is important - the pillars that allow you standing in life and to be moving towards life and solidity again.
Tools are a intangible solid base where to look your life and check it out what is missing.
Roles are tools to relate to the system and it gives you an identity/ persona to move around.
Thanks, did you manage reinvent yourself or with (what kind?) of professional help? And were you fairly stable before you lost everything? I never was, and loneliness is the worst, not the suffering in itself.
I am at a crossroads at 60ys of age, having performed and developed a skill set with the medical service industry. Since my capacity was not clinical, i had frontline business position. After returning to work, i learned that my role, social patient advocate, data entry and developing lasting patients relations was not acceptable with the same style that indentified me . The physical barriers3 that my capacity inherited practically overnight shocked me. I processed it as a threatning, diminishing requirement that tore out my individuality. It was not out of fear about contracting the "pandemic " at all. It was ridiculous measures to follow guidelines that i did not respect or belive in. So all in all, i took it personally and my interactions and joy vanished. I was ashamed to perform tasks that were directly opposed to my personal opinion. Resentment has overwhelmed my work performance and desire to work with enthusiasm. it has breached my personal values, and harmony within the office. I dont know how to regain my pride. Help
@@rebelsoul9609 for the time being you need to go into your "under-cover warrior-mode", while you coolly figure out what to do - don't destroy your life, and that of others, by open rebellion right now. Stay level-headed, strong and strategic - and correct and reform everything later on, when the pandemic and its turmoil is over. All the best wishes and courage to you!
@@DNA350ppm thanks for your simply lovely , sound advice. My hostility has subsided and I am seeing people that are more relaxed. With the surrounding. . the ongoing ludicrous oxymoronic headlines, news reports, signage around town makes no sense. For me, my learning curve is a long one and being built by gaining knowledge to learn power. Without a doubt this covid is a algorithmic test to measure how much fear, and compliance can be acheived. When the data has been loosely gathered, it sets the stage the to unleash a 2nd phase of fear, immobility, and corralling thought patterns. If we slow down an see the nonsense doctrine around them., a healthy mind should question everything. Equate it with facts to support reality and carry on. This distancing, sanitizer, mask charade will not ever go away. It will be measured and carry forward to next pillar of tolerance. I'm awkward, insulted and not overlooking the insanity.
@@rebelsoul9609 Thanks for getting back and telling how you are now - I took it seriously and hoped that my standpoint would perhaps make it clearer for you what YOUR own standpoint is - or maybe it would be a touch-stone for some other reader.
I'm following the covid-advice that I feel is sane, with a special regard for all those who are very overloaded in the hospitals right now - they didn't have the best working-conditions in the first place, and then the matters got worse!
All the best for getting through - also this will pass!
I have thoughts that are probably considered psychotic. I have intermittently lived waking dreams and have parts of my mind split and talk back to me. But I feel like I have relatively calm circumstances. Perhaps it is a mental illness. Or perhaps I am overwhelmed and not in touch with why. I have committed myself to living but feel detached from the entire life process. I long for an escape, but I tell myself that will be the next life. And until then I will stay quiet and walk my dogs and continue as an accountant.
oh god every day he spits more holy truth. near the end about mental illness/real problems
Have you heard the gospel of Jesus Christ before? God's holy word the Bible teaches us that we have all sinned, we have all done things our God given conscience tells us are wrong, that keep us from experiencing His holiness and goodness in our lives.
Romans 3:23 “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;”
Sins such as using His name in vain, to use the name of the God who created us and gave us life, without respect or reverence, and worse, often with disrespect, jesting or even hatred.
Exodus 20:7 “Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.”
God is a just, holy and righteous God and in His love and goodness He must punish sin. If we are living sinful lives, breaking the ten commandments, and not acknowledging God in our hearts, God must punish us for our wickedness. God must send us to hell, a place of torment, weeping and gnashing of teeth, where all unrepentant sinners will go. Since we all have sinned, and fallen short, how can we be saved from this eternal place?
Romans 5:8 “But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.”
The good news, the gospel, is that God was born of a virgin, lived a perfect, sinless and holy life, as Jesus of Nazareth, and sacrificed Himself for our sins. He shed His blood and died on the cross and took upon Himself the wrath of the Father so that we might go free. After being crucified, he was buried in a tomb, and then as prophesied, resurrected by the power of God and defeated sin, death and hell. Whosoever believes in Him and follows Him will have eternal life! Forgiven of all sin, saved from death and hell and given a new heart to truly know Him. That is the mercy and love that Christ showed on the cross. He was perfect, yet died for imperfect people like us. Please take the time, you are not promised tomorrow, to read these next verses humbly and honestly and pray for God to forgive you of your sin and grant you His Holy Spirit and forgiveness in Jesus Christ. God bless you in Jesus' mighty name! Amen.
Romans 10:9 “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.”
John 3:16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”
John 14:6 “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”
John 11:25-26 "Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?"
Dr. Jordan Peterson's gift is that he knows how to put words and action in place of confusion and those who are inarticulate. I think this is why people are attracted and Drawn to his lectures is because most people are not articulate nor are they insightful.
HEARING JP ON THIS TOPIC MAKES ME TEAR UP, 😔 HES EXPLAINING MY LIFE, THANK YOU JP, UR DOING GODS WORK.
❤
3:39 and often you stop this from becoming Hell..
but you can't stop em from becoming bitter and painful and anxiety - provocative..
True but my friend this is also Hell if its lasting your whole life from a childhood and so on..
I saw and heard things that wasn't there for about a month. The things I experienced messed me up bad.
My goodness this is true. My true experience.
Same.... how to continue?
The suffering is unbearable.
... each day!
I am beyond burnt out and emotionally spent looking after my dad with alzheimer's and my mam who refuses to do anything to help me out. I've so much responsibility and I simply can't walk away from it 😢
Dous Anyone out there feels hopeless ? I mean really really hopeless ?
Me.. He describes me in this speech. You also?
I couldn't handle the catastrophes! The deaths , the trauma, the career job loss ,... and the mental illnesses it's caused.
The endless stress!
The chronic anxiety. Insomnia .. and depression.
Hope?
Yea. I’m 85 and stuck on addictive drugs that hurt me. I must take them. Or hav bad withdrawals or seizures. I want to die
As hopeless as wanna go bed and never wake up and its like this for decades on end..😢
@@user-hq5ps7dx7d Wow ...🥀
Decades..? Sorry to hear that.
I feel you , it's been 8 months now.
I don't enjoy living anymore. I don't like the mornings anymore... means I have to suffer from depression .
If you are in the situation that a pack of catastrophes attack you like wolves, and some people try to tell you: "Come on, it will be alright." Then run! Avoid this person. You don't need such comments. Your life will not be alright without your slaying or chasing away those wolves. You must do it yourself, and mostly without a select few who have some brains and experience. Books can then be of more use than real people. Probably videos like Jordan Peterson's will encourage you greatly! Binge them if needed,but take some action, too.
There are days when your most important task is just to survive till the next, but then step by step you MUST start to sort things out and do what is possible to do. It will not be neat and it will not be easy. You may have to crawl in the mud on knees and elbows, kind of. But remind yourself that you are not dead, not yet.
If you are not in an actual jungle: alternate rest, nutrition, walks, and targeted efforts tackling the catastrophes. Prioritize recklessly. Now is not the time to be agreeable and caring about other peoples petty demands on you. You don't send birthday-cards now, unless it really helps you up on your feet again.
If possible, try therapy. Sometimes it isn't. Attend closely to how you feel - monitor yourself, make trial and error-progress, and go in the direction that seems a little lighter, a little less dark, a little less heavy. Nothing is going to feel wonderful, so never put up such high-level conditions for acting to help yourself. Keep up your hope against hope. Remind yourself of good songs, hymns, psalms, even prayers though you don't believe in any God, just whatever you notice are good words and tunes for you.
Force yourself to eat, one forkful at a time. Don't drink alcohol at all. Drink enough water; with the help of your little scrap of remaining willpower, take one spoonful till you have downed a glass every third hour. Avoid bensodiazepids and the like, do not use such to go on as before or keep up appearances.
A near relation of mine became thin as a skeleton, shivered for cold and anxiety, the whole body aching, tried to hold out from pill to pill till she "had no life". Then first I got the truth out. I practically came flying and would actually hold her in my arms for a week, day and night, while we applied the program above with her. It was a horrifying experience for us both, but afterwards the "wolves" seemed much less scaring than this addiction. The wolves being death of spouse, illnesses, financial problems, loneliness, helplessness, some family conflicts and issues. True mourning for the spouse could set in, and good-enough solutions were found for the other problems, when the addiction was gotten rid of. She then took it as a mission to openly warn others of the danger of addiction, which was radically different from the attitude that had led to the addiction in the first place, the hiding of troubles and difficulties and being in need of a helping hand. These were rules she stoically had lived by. Never more!
Be your best parent and friend! Think of the heroes you admire. If you admire them you are in some way alike them. Struggle and fight for your freedom and rescue, till it's come true or till the bitter end, but don't you give in! Let your hardship be somebody's inspiration!
"We lived on songs and hope instead." ruclips.net/video/ORQj_j7_NM4/видео.html
Thank you
You saved me... for today at least...💚
Thank you
@@cortneypayton6473 Hi, I hope you have held out courageously - one hour at the time, one day at the time. I wrote a reply to you immediately when I saw it a few days ago, but it seems to me youtube somehow swallowed it up. I wish you all the best always!
@@freezysyahz
This is so helpful and powerful. Thank you
Courage is both death and the promise of life
so what?? I want a prolonged version of it!!!! I wanna know the ending of it!!!
ramkrishan charan jordan peterson has his own channel with all lectures. He's on joe rogan channel often with great stuff
It's all in the description: This is only a small excerpt of Dr. Peterson’s comprehensive lecture of “2017 Maps of Meaning 7: Images of Story & MetaStory” you can watch entirely here: ruclips.net/video/F3n5qtj89QE/видео.html
I’m definitely going to watch the entire lecture. 1st and foremost, we shouldn’t isolate ourselves in the midst of struggle. Small issues can become complicated problems when they aren’t “sorted out”. Talking to about anybody in the beginning stages of confusing life situations is a good start.
can we go back to this Jordan before Twitter
The scars go very deep
...is it bad that I recognized the thumbnail as the top of Patrick Stewart’s head… During his role as picard from ST: TNG?
Broken Eyes It might be if you know what episode that picture was taken from lol
Apparently it's part of my psychotic episode. I had just texted someone asking how I was, then this video pops up and perfectly describes what I wrote.
Then you point out the bald head and I recall I was exactly this bald in my dream last night, and the song in my head for the morning, Blind Melon.
17 years, 7 kids, 3 years of separation non-divorce from a narcissist whose entire life goal has been to destroy mine because I decided to stop seeing her after our first few dates.
Don't look pic a card or Will Shatered?
Either enterprise seems hopeless.
Deep Shit, nine?
And if a narcissistic relationship is included, it’s infinitely worse.
I needed to hear that. I'm so glad you commented.
Every day has a catastrophe, I have the friends theme going on in my head , ‘it hasn’t been your day in weeks or , even your year’ but I change the year to decade. It’s a nightmare trying to make it , working all the time, the most simple tasks cant get from a to be without having to do cdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxandfuckiny, letters emails texts coming through all the time, scams , and even legit companies designed surcharges on everything , my iPhone cables not working since updates , just get used to something and it changes , cant stand it , its absolute nuts , and I see people casually walking around without a care in the world , people on benefits living calmly in nicer accommodation than me who for 7 years now maintained a business but feels like I’m on a hamster wheel , No energy in the evening , just insane, 100 self help books later it’s all bs.
Does anyone else going through this feel as if their situation is entirely unique? I need to know
Yes. I went through a extremely stressful retirement issue. I desperately tried to cancel it... but, bad circumstances ruined everything, and I lost my job. It profoundly DEVASTATED me.!! I couldn't sleep for over a week straight. Developed anxiety, insomnia and severe depression.. Was having panic attacks, became insecure and afraid. I never recovered. My life was ruined. The sleep deprivation has been extremely hectic for 9 months. Im unable to even go outside, or do anything anymore. ... 😢
I covered a shift because I was under the assumption that they would cover for when in reality they can't cuz their sick and now I'm stick with three day shift in a row plus a side job I can't get out of. After two days I'm burnt out and numb. I'm ready for some time off
I'm going Tru too much
I am high in creativity and equally in order and in neuroticism (woman INTJ Type - 0.5 percent of the population).
What's your Industrious rated at?
I've been depessed for years, and it dosen't seam to improve. And stuff resently have only made the depression get worser. But to the point i where going to make.
When Mr Peterson mentioned that Anti depressants might help. Its true they can help. But I came to a realization some years a go about them.
Imagine Depression being a finely honed knife, sharper than any knife you ever seen before. And the anti depressant medication is bacicly just you rubbing a stone over the knifes edge to dull it.
It won't remove the knife, nor will it prevent you from cutting your selfe. But it will at the werry minimum make it harder to cut your selfe on it, and be easier to deal with all the other stuff that potentially are the under lying cause for the depression.
explains my situation well. Hes really thought this kinda stuff through. I know he deals with people all the time but still, he didnt have to put that much thought into it
Multiple stress points at once. 😂 I'm in total shut down today. 🎉
Is Jordan Peterson suggesting to his students in this video that they should put their patients on an antidepressant not as a cure but to prevent the anxiety snowball from further developing so the can basically deal with a smaller amount of problems at a time ?
By taking an antidepressant early on, you prevent the death of the synapsis that send the signals from one synapse to another. Once they shrivel and die from lack of use they're gone. You don't grow more. So all the antidepressants in the world won't work. It's better to take an antidepressant early which will keep the synapsis functioning. You can stop taking an antidepressant but you cannot grow another synapse.
Seems logical to me, anxiety triggers psychotic symptoms. So let's put aside a catastrophe e.g. financial one - you can't deal with that complex problem and it could be destroying. But the biggest issue in schizoaffective disorder is that soon a hell breaks free, I mean there isn't only a crisis to be solved, there is a fight with your perception. Let's say you do have persecutory delusions, now it's not only a matter of external or existencial crisis, it's a matter of functioning with perception that whole world is against you. I mean, like the whole world that you could imagine. Its complexity is not on a level of a simple problem solving, it's on a level that every stimuli and every thought is an enemy. You are definitely at war. Emotional, cognitive and physical. Now that's a crisis. Now basic things like going out becomes complex problems to be solved. These all smaller monsters but in your reality they aren't.
I was on anti depressants for 17 years. I used to see them as "If I take this pill, my depression will go away". But I've been off them for 5+ years, and now I see anti-depressants as exactly how you've described. (Obviously, give/take because everyone reacts to meds differently and everyone's circumstances are different.) Anti-depressants are there to take the edge off and make it a little easier to deal with your problems.
*Peterson speaking to someone in therapy with him* ‘You’re depressed because you don’t have a job’.
*Peterson throws a bible at the patient* ‘Suffering is ennobling’.
*The patient* ‘Thanks, but Job didn’t have to pay for rent and other bills when god tortured him…I forgot to ask your secretary when I made the appointment- do you sell any rope here?’
I needed this.. I want to die
Me too
Word for word...
He understands what happened to me,.. and why there is no resolvment possible.
The grief, guilt, regrets...
The stress, anxiety , insomnia, depression... it torture.
Me too
I would love to talk to you I'm currently working on going in for dual diagnosis because the doomsday anxiety and fear has taken me over. I'm a tough woman always have been but I'm at the end of this and I don't know what to think about the Red blue crap evil vs good I'm severely traumatized and it's been going on since I was young and I am really ready to tap. Any chance you could give a fellow human a conversation??
Hang in there, remember there’s people suffering with you. Let’s suffer and beat this together ❤
@@fmattiellomagic Thank you
I don't want it I need it
walk through a wood till you get tired
What did people do before medicine,? Valium?
ρε συ δν είναι ίδιος ο Jeremy Irons??
samelike
I'm beyond over welded I need a home
What if they are heavily abused by everyone most of their life and they can't report crimes and lied on that they are paranoid and people benefit from that??? Can't even complain about anything for many years?? People trying to make them act out??? And have and hold them and family false imprisoned??
This is what happened to Jordan Peterson
I hate that that made me laugh because I like JP 😅
CORTISOL POINT RESEARCH LATER
To rest Ive been in the streets fighting for everyone
Jesus Loves you, don't give up
Your evil, what you are doing is worse than hate. What is worse than hate is indifference and you doing something much worse than that. What you are doing is a pure form of evil where you give people pictures of water when they are dying of thirst, you only say nice things so that you can be gratified with yourself. And whats worse is the most extreme apparent lack of any true virtue of seeking truth, if you really know the origins of what you are saying than you wouldn't being saying it, and thats the worst part of all you dont even know any better. And the reason you dont know any better is because there is a difference between being sold a lie and actually buying the lie. You are already dead.
@@adammcbee3388 calm down , buckeru
@@dogbotgod8499 No, you may not be willing to face evil and that makes you just as evil, but I will face evil. Why is it that you and other people act like anger as an emotion is illegitimate somehow, tell me then what other emotions other than being ironic and being aloof are allowed.
@@adammcbee3388 how about, dont be a dick ? Just because you got emotions doesnt mean you should act on them , man do you even watch J.P?
Umm....
Although it would be nice if it were possible, nobody is ready for "IT," and there is no way to totally prepare for IT. Sorry. Sometimes there really is No Exit.
True... I don't know what to do already!!
This situation can never be resolved..
Talked to every organization, but no comfort with words...
ja eh
I'm the 100,200th viewer
For 4 years and they government and my husband where after me
Schizofrenia..... too much cortisal leads to degeneration in brain.... Overwhelm in life..... very many problems....
Dude. Your opinions matter like everyone else's.
Tell God to give me a home I united the dogs not him
I have no respect for the RUclipsrs using Peter lectures, weaponize them with fake exotic tittles, clip them to redicule ... to make a living out of knowledge thirsty audience :/
@Adrian just to know how high you are in the idiocy scale, illiterate people like me can find flaws in your (whatever,... Who the flip are you anyway shmuck)
Clean my room ?!?
All Jordan talks about is how shitty life is and how the chances of fixing things are very low
This man seems so responsible. Is this the same guy who spouts outrageous stuff?
I have yet to see him spout anything close to outrageous.
Stop listening to the liars you heard this from, and believe your own ears.
I got video of that rat ? What's that about rat rat rat talking about rat 😂? I don't know i saw one video on that you get call on phone may be I get disturbed with that for I am small baby drinking milk from father's breast 😂😂 don't want others to have that so I get disturbed with little phone ring you said sorry about that but this is i think so childish behaviour just imagine if I was with i would not let my papa to share with others I want I want crazy 😅
another clickbaity title
When it's too much you just pop some benzos and life is tolerable again. Right Prof. Peterson?
@No Name
Don’t waste your time. He’s likely a leftist sack of shit who believes that there are 76 genders and trump is worse than Hitler.
Some people literally want to watch the world burn.
He’s one of them.
@Andy Loi to be fair if he really is in his mommies basement without a dad then is he really at fault? statistics tells us, is it’s all too clear that males without fathers grow up far worse off.
It is up to us to restore the importance of marriage and keeping dads around. These lawyers are screwing it all up.
Hahahahahah fucking losers ad hominem all the way. The response - "you piece of fucking shit" betrays your degeneracy. I did not attack you, however you felt attacked.
P a t h e t i c.
@@3v3ryus3rnam3istak3n different person? Sheesh man, take it easy..
@@Papa-Squat Read the replies to my relatively mild comment that is based on facts lol. They want me dead because I said an unflattering fact about their savior. That's what cults do.
He said a whole bunch of nothing
What? He's not a psychic he's a psychologist man, it actually made me feel validated and better because tbh most of the pain comes from people judging without understanding how real it is. Not just some button click boom now I'm happy, I'd rather have someone understanding than someone who tries to be my dad
You're projecting