As I state in the video that some of you missed somehow, if it is true that the mobs are not permanently removed as some claim, then the issue with the mob vote is clarification. I said this in the video but some of you missed it so here it is again!!
Nah bro they probably heard you say "they might be gone forever" and they paused the video and went to complain in the comments and not watch the rest of the video lmfao 💀
I think the reason why so many people missed it is because you start with saying the losers are gone forever (which you later debunk yourself with screenshots from a developer) and only address it maybe not being true nearly 5 minutes later. I think not nearly as people would have commented if you had these sections much closer together or completely removed the section where you say they're gone forever and make it more of a point that it isn't very clear if they will be as having a handful of developers on Twitter address it isn't exactly making it obvious. As for using the original mob vote as evidence against this claim, the developers have only ever said they wouldn't be added at that single event and implemented the mobs features alone, like disenchanting with grindstones and magma blocks pulling you underwater. Overall it's a good video but with how much misinformation and heated debates are around the mob vote I feel like this video could have gone through a few touch ups to clear up misconceptions and make your points a little more clear. No hate, all love. Really enjoy your content, keep on doing what you do.
The thing about these mob votes is that once someone with a huge following says who they want to win, you can throw all actual opinions out the window. Remember the glow squid incident?
Honestly I think the main issue is clarifying what he mobs will really do. Like for example sniffer was seen as giving you some new flower options. Sure, nobody was expecting double the amount of existing flowers to be added, but just 2 mediocre flowers using a mob found in like three places that takes forever to do its thing? Really not worth it. Same for glow squid, they kinda gave the impression it would be able to hypnotize mobs and/or players, or at least do something similar, but its literally just the glow ink sac. It's much better this year, though, since they finally clearly said what each mob does without anything to give you another idea.
THIS Lack of finer details on these are a major issue Part of it is probably because they wanna figure out more specifics when they know they're actually gonna be adding it But even "Armadillo adds wolf armour, It is between Iron and Leather in strength" Crab claw lets you reach 2 blocks further Penguin effect works on ice etc. specifics like that would help people make an informed decision
Too me, it’s the missed potential in these mobs. ESPECIALLY in the sniffer. I love the sniffer’s design and concept. It’s the execution that I hate. Also, it was originally gonna have their eggs spawn in ocean ruins chests. But then archeology came. And since the sniffer is a dinosaur like mob. They decide to have its egg be found in suspicious sand that are found in ocean ruins. So it’s not really the sniffer’s fault for being too tedious to get.
My other issue with the mob vote is that we don’t get enough information about said mob, and if the community overhypes a specific one for (e.g.) a feature that doesn’t get added **glowsquidincidentintensifies** then there’s no second chance.
I'm gonna play devil's advocate here for a while. While I do agree with your point. The community sometimes hellbents itself on community made theories even when Mojang specifically says the won't be adding those features. Case in point: Snuffer's plants. Mojang always stated they would be decorative only, yet the community tried to strong arm Mojang into making them useful, something which they eventually failed in doing so.
@@stevenoviedo541 even if it was just plants....why only 2? There are fan made mods that have completely expanded on decorative vegetation several times over what we get in base minecraft. So if they were going to make a mob thats ONLY function is to unlock new decorative plants, why couldnt they be bothered to make more than 2?
Ywell all that brings attention to the game so all the toxicity is doing the oppisite its bringing more attention by flooding youtube with "why the mob vote sucks" videos, it just brings more attention and lets face it its just older fans that are arguing meanwhilenewer fans are just trying to choose which one to vote for P.s. I am a newer fan i joined during early 2021 (also i am not a child i am currently in college so please be civil about it)
@@pig3guWell the mob vote on top of all of the other controversies does not help the game and does nothing except worsen the game's performance and the community, there's no benefit to the votes
I think a major problem with the votes is that they are designed as a tool for engagement. The features are secondary which is why the mobs always kind of feel like side content for the sake of itself. We even know that some of the mobs added to the vote are scrapped content from previous updates, like the allay being planned and scrapped from the nether update. They’re basically just small bonuses. I do really wish mojang would just add one of the losers soon though to show that they can, since they have said that they are open to it, and people still seem to widely think the mobs are gone forever. I think part of the problem is that they are still so behind on the biome votes, so adding stuff they have no obligation to before that would be kind of weird even if it was something small
Yeah, I absolutely prefer your idea for the vote just determining what order the mobs get added. Especially in a year like this one, where I would genuinely love to see all three mobs get added. The current mob votes just seem to make the Minecraft community tear each other apart over people not wanting to vote for the same mob they do.
Your proposal of the Sniffer being able to find a new plant with a dye that brings back a removed indev wool colour sounds a lot like my idea of the Sniffer being able to dig up the classic Red and Cyan Roses. I also use the Allay to help with picking up crops like Sugar Cane or Wheat that I missed in big farms.
@@Muho_is_me I do not like that idea. That gives too much power to one entity that can be found in bulk. Wouldn't performance also be an issue due to the Allay needing to load chunks in order to do its task?
That combined with consumer research, which is one of the most dystopian things to me in contemporary advertising/marketing, that Microsoft research on customers has been rebranded as a "vote" among a "community"
Imagine if the losing mobs are just added when their biomes are updated instead of being gone forever. Like snowy biomes with penguins, beaches with crabs and savannahs with armadillos. Since the armadillo has won, that becomes the mob that is included in the next update and we wait longer for the crab and penguin.
I think one of the worst parts this year is that there are two mobs that are insanely requested and would fit perfectly into the game, and one mob that isn't as insanely requested and would still fit pretty well into the game. This statement applies to every mob vote.
I just hope that already-existing Mobs are able to be updated… specifically bats. Mojang wants to focus on environmentally significant animals? Bats make up an entire FOURTH of mammals on Earth and are chock-full of unique powers. I don’t think Mojang is lazy, I just think that Minecraft’s broad appeal means they have to consider what EVERY SINGLE PLACE would think of even the tiniest of additions. I mean, these updates are free. But at the same time, these three are all actual animals that are exceedingly popular- and they’ve already spent resources on their trailers!
IMO a good way to give bats a purpose would be allowing you to feed them fruit in exchange for them helping you out depending on what you fed them, eg. An apple will have them lead you to an exit, feeding them a golden apple gives you a mining haste buff, etc
The fact that a primarily Nintendo-focused youtuber can sum up all the main problems of the mob vote and how to fix it in about 10 minutes really says something
Suggestion: Instead of voting for which of 3 mobs are added. Vote for HOW 1 mob will be added. Mojang say that the mobs they present in the videos are only ideas at this stage, they come up with a "use" and will only decide fully how to implement it, if it wins. So scrap that, pick 1 really cool mob like a Penguin for example, and let the vote be for what the Penguin does. (E.g. Option (a) It speeds your boat up. Option (b) It picks up items dropped in the water and fetches them back to you. Option (c) Improves your traction on ice, while maintaining speed benefits)
@@lucasmatthiessen1570i feel like that could be a whole separate thing. like if they did a mob design contest with specific guidelines to take into account.
I like the idea apart from the fact that most people aren't game designers, and thus, we will most probably get a very steep popwer creep, where people just vote for the most "powerful" mob.
I definitely like this idea way more. Having the mob vote choose the order of what gets added instead of deleting interesting ideas is a much better system. I do hope some of the ideas from past mob votes return because, especially the three that lost in the first vote, were really interesting.
8:11 As a shadow fan i can confirm that my parole officer told me to say that i never killed anyone, and that if i did, hypothetically, i honestly regret it and will probably never do it again
I straight up don’t understand what thought process led to mojang coming up with the phantom in the first place, and then people actually voting it in, an extremely unfortunate combination of baffling game design and voters just not even reading the description of what they’re voting for,
You going over the previous mob votes really made me realize just how long it’s been since I last played Minecraft. I haven’t played it since before the Allay won that mob vote.
It’s crazy to think we actually lose more mobs than we get. Whatever happened to the other mobs? Did mojang just forget about them? Why make mob ideas and tease them just so you can take them away and never use them?
Recycling mob vote mobs feels like a no brainer. Why why WHY would Mojang go through the trouble of designing three new mobs _every year_ when they have so many unused mob ideas already... mob ideas that fans REALLY want to see again! Honestly bringing back the old mobs would be better publicity then making new ones, especially if they tacked on a small extra feature to improve them for the rerun!
My biggest problem with mojang updates is the difference between them and the terraria devs. The terraria devs add so much content every update, while mojang doesnt
Cool vid but 1 thing you've gotten wrong, the only mobs that have been perm deleted are the ones from the first mob vote, every other mob goes on a shelf and is waiting for it's time to shine ( confirmed by Mojang )
As a casual player allays are pretty useful when I’m harvesting stuff. Like when I’m getting wood I set them to collect saplings or when farming they pick up the stuff I miss. It’s kinda niche but it’s helpful in situations where things can get lost
I personally think we should get a special snapshot with all 3, so we can see all of the features of each one. Lack of information on each mob is the biggest problem with the vote.
While that’s a good idea, the reason they do the votes (other than the community hype) is so they could take more time programming the winner mob into the game. So, if they already programmed the other mobs, might aswell just add them all, right?
@@StvhlingerI can totally see Mojang getting them all 50% ish ready and putting them on the shelf when they lose. It like when they bring back the mcrib.
Can i say that literally the only reason anyone voted for the glowsquid was because we were told it would GLOW and luminate dark, underground water, a mechanic that would have been really useful but it doesn't do that.
I've always prefered the biome vote. I like the idea of expanding upon preexisting content rather than trying tack on a single new mob, atleast that's what some of the mob votes have felt like. It feels more impactful to the game and of course the losers aren't doomed to be on a wiki page of stuff that will never be added to the game. It still stirs up discussion and community interaction, too. Honestly if they just made the changes you talked about it'd be so much better.
Could you not have watched the 11 minute video to realize I mentioned this and said that if that is the case then the problem is their lack of clarification
Idk. The allay allows non stackable item sorting for machines which I have used extensively. The copper golem is a randomizer which I can already make fairly easily. Of course I wanted the copper golem, but I’m glad I lost to Allay because in hindsight it’s very useful
@kaielmacmillan9258 I don't remotely care what it's function was, I just love the little copper golems and the game needs more use for copper. I have never even seen an Allay in game.
Tbf other than the 2017 and 2023 mobs (they should’ve added all of them), the only mobs I wish they still added were the Iceologer and the Copper Golem. They were already doing a mountain update from the previous year so why didn’t they just straight up add the Iceologer to fit with the theme? And also considering how useless copper is no offense, the Copper Golem would’ve been a great way to add more usage to copper even if you don’t ever plan to make them.
imo theres no excuse or the moobloom. literally just a different texture. i bet i could program that in a single day, and i have very limited experience in coding. just gotta copy over the mooshroom an change minor variables.
i think it would be nice for the other mobs to eventually get added into minecraft. the mob voted being the first to get in, the other two coming in a year later
I think the phantom is more useful than the rest besides the armadillo because the slow falling potion is incredibly useful in the dragon fight, especially in hardcore.
Ok I haven’t watched the whole video, but in my opinion, removing the mob vote is a shit idea. 1. It probably means we’d get less mobs every day. One of the big reason they do the mob vote is to bring attention to mc live. No mob vote, no point to bring more mobs in. 2. Less variety. Say if we get a desert update, we’d mainly get desert themed mobs. No sniffer in a savannah update. No allay in a nether update. Etc. 3. They said they would bring the mobs back if it fit the theme. They’re not “locked in a vault” like everyone says. In my opinion, it’d be cool in the short term, but would be worse in the long term.
In all honesty, idk why people are voting for the crab. All 3 of these mobs don't have good utility, I feel like this vote is down to a subjective "which do you like" thing. They are more ambient mobs than anything.
They should do a mob update where they add every single mob we lost and only make few changes to the game or even just one good one to keep us entertained Ex: this update we got all those mobs and the crafting table thing
The REAL problem is that the mobs are shallow & have a single, niche use-case that doesn't make them feel relevant 99% of the time or a part of the game's world. Also, the fact that they don't elaborate on small details ISN'T helping.
I wish they would have kept the mob vote, but each year, the mobs were the ones that lost from the last few years. Until they eventually added all the mobs that lost, proving to us that they do add the losers eventually, meaning that future mob votes aren’t as high stakes.
I think a lot of issues with the mob vote is mojang doesn’t give enough info. We were told that we’d get a new seed/crop from the sniffer, not a flower only useful for the sniffer (breeding it, or absolutely nothing). It’s either because they don’t have the entire idea when they show it, they don’t give the proper info, or they change after it’s been voted since changes happen all the time when developing.
I think that they should add the top 2 votes and the third is delayed so that everyone is happy and so it’s a tiny bit easier for developers if they were to do this
The mob votes are such a wasted concept that has too many fundamental design problems for them to work properly. Like what's even the point of making the fanbase vote for 3 mobs with undercooked concepts and features if you're just going to clearly only hype one of them up and not further expand on the others? Especially when you can easily add all 3 of them in the same update. Not to mention that most of the contestants aren't even that good anyway, it's usually just a choice of picking the least terrible mob. If Mojang wants to bring the community together and let them have a say on what they want to come to the game then they need to stop dangling keys over the community's face like we're babies and just stop throwing away things that could work but don't due to their own incompetence.
Moby które odpadły nie są stracone na zawsze bo w mob vote nie głosujemy na moba który się pojawi w grze tylko na moba który się pojawi wcześniej od innych. Trzeba też pamiętać że mob vote to tylko "dodatek" do całej aktualizacji a nie główna żecz.❤
In English this is what he said. Mobs that are eliminated are not lost forever because in mob voting we do not vote for the mob that will appear in the game, but for the mob that will appear before the others. You must also remember that mob vote is only an "add-on" to the entire update, not the main feature.
I mean, Mojang is milking Bedrock players so much with their terrible Marketplace why would they stop updating? It's not like they're doing it out of generosity.
@@EmperorPenguin1217the 19 update being mediocre doesn't mean the game is getting ruined. Like yes they are certain in Minecraft that need to get better and the game has flaws . But another of people are exaggerating things and devalue the work Mojang puts through.
In my opinion, your proposed solution would be good for a time, but eventually, I think it would lead to a huge backlog of mobs because Mojang adds new ones to the game so slowly. One idea I had would be for them not to reveal the mobs in the mob vote but have a contest to determine what TYPE of mob to add to the game. For example, Hostile Mob vs. Passive Mob vs. Redstone Mob, or something like that. That way, no one would be that upset if their choice lost because they'd know more mobs of that variety will make it into the game at some point. Other examples would be Land Mob vs. Aquatic Mob, End Mob Vs. Nether Mob, Mesa Mob vs. Taiga Mob, etc. It would probably be less high stakes, but I think it's an option worth considering for some years.
but like me, i also vote for the mobs, i want to make an armadillo park in my game to keep them there. i love armadillos and we also vote for the mobs and not only for uses.
@@Lyokoheros-KLPXTV welp this is the point of the whole protest, we just want mojang to promise they will be added. we like the mobs and want them all.
I think they just need to do something to remind people that no, not all of these mobs are gone forever. though I feel like they already proved that with frogs people disagree because it’s just the biome vote. and I think they should do a vote with past candidates so that the backlog doesn’t keep growing too fast
the frog doesnt count because, as you mentioned, it was a biome vote, not a mob vote. if 1.19 didnt have the swamp update, we wouldnt have gotten frogs with it. mob vote mobs are separate from the update itself, theyre plastered ontop, and sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt. none of the losers of the mob votes have been added, and weve had long enough to add them all and then some. the losers are gone permanently it seems, which is why we are revolting
Idea: Next year could be the TMMU The mega mob update All the jobs that lost get added back in one mega update Not only will it bring more people but make everyone happy Next next update will add all the biomes that have yet to be added Then after that they hold a biome vote in which the winner gets added next, second after, and third gets added last Each of the biomes has one or more mobs to go with it Rinse and repeat
So for the first mob vote only, those 3 mobs will never get in, but for the rest of them (2020-2023), those mobs will eventually get in. Kinda want to clear that up, if it hasn't already been cleared up.
The Minecraft devs saying it multiple times, that any non 2017 vote just goes back into the idea's box and could be added in a future update if it fits what they want to do.
@@Alibium "According to Ulraf, a developer at Mojang, the mobs who lose the vote will be kept in the company's "IdeasLibrary." This repository has been referenced in the past, but it apparently keeps note of various aspects of Minecraft that go unimplemented." -www.sportskeeda.com/minecraft/what-happens-losers-minecraft-mob-vote And there is a Twitter post showing it, and also @plumfadoodle4908 gave another perfect reason.
@@plumfadoodle4908you forgot the second part of they said, this doesnt mean they will be added. so yes theres big chance if many mobs never be added after losing the vote. what they should say is "ALL of then will be added eventually around 1-3 years after introduction" so not only all mobs will be added but community wont lose trust if take too long for the mob be added
10:42 "I've heard some people on twitter saying they aren't permanently removed-" *shows a tweet from an actual developer of the game saying the mobs just get put back on the shelf for now*
It was the first mob vote, which added the phantom, where the other losers were disqualified forever. The massive outrage from that is what made them change and say the other losers will be added to the "idea pool". The devs have stated this on twitter several times, but i see so many people say they're deleted forever, when they literally added frogs and mangrove, the second place finisher, 2 updates ago. So yes, in your pinned comment, they do need to make this more clear.
a lot of people say to just choose all 3 mobs but thats kinda lame and leaves no excitment for what could be next. instead I think we should go back to biome votes so instead of getting a single mob, we can get an entire biome pack
Thats literally what i have always thought about the mob vote and what i see a lot of people say Not one minds having a big event to choose a mob Everyone is upset because the other good ideas are just deleted from reality, plus it would make underwhelming mobs from votes be less disappointing because i feel part the disappointment is "wow we lost out on X for this?" Not just the mob not being to interesting
and if mojang dont, lets then boycott the marketplace, as i said on my video. why is this my suggestion? companies only talk money, and about the marketplace creators during boycott we can donate to them directly via paypal or something which is even mich better since they get 30% cut from marketplace
Their was also a Chinese mob vote, its how we got the Panda. Their were four other mobs, Alligators, Deers, Monkeys, and River Dolphins. The first mob vote was actualy a twitter poll, were the Llama beat the Alpaca, and their was a Cat vote aswell.
I’m sorry but ignoring “the incident”, the Glow Squid thing was one of the worst votes. Like this multi million company really had us arguing over 2 retextures vs a fully realized, unique mob that fit the update theme perfectly. At least the other years I could see why they might need us to choose.
*Just ask: Why dont Mojang just add all 3 of them...?* Like, why? Its an UPDATE. Its only purpose Its to GIVE NEW CONTENT! Like... "oh wow, Pink trees!"... and thats it???
![Blox Fruits Dragon Rework Update [Full Stream]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/EqDAp8udhm0/mqdefault.jpg)
As I state in the video that some of you missed somehow, if it is true that the mobs are not permanently removed as some claim, then the issue with the mob vote is clarification. I said this in the video but some of you missed it so here it is again!!
Nah bro they probably heard you say "they might be gone forever" and they paused the video and went to complain in the comments and not watch the rest of the video lmfao 💀
I think the reason why so many people missed it is because you start with saying the losers are gone forever (which you later debunk yourself with screenshots from a developer) and only address it maybe not being true nearly 5 minutes later. I think not nearly as people would have commented if you had these sections much closer together or completely removed the section where you say they're gone forever and make it more of a point that it isn't very clear if they will be as having a handful of developers on Twitter address it isn't exactly making it obvious. As for using the original mob vote as evidence against this claim, the developers have only ever said they wouldn't be added at that single event and implemented the mobs features alone, like disenchanting with grindstones and magma blocks pulling you underwater. Overall it's a good video but with how much misinformation and heated debates are around the mob vote I feel like this video could have gone through a few touch ups to clear up misconceptions and make your points a little more clear. No hate, all love. Really enjoy your content, keep on doing what you do.
@@adoyoVote the for Penguin
@@Free-TshirtsVote the for Penguin
If your a christian you need to repent of your sins PLZ
As a copper golem fan, I am still suffering the tragic loss of a use for copper
Presenting... Minecraft 1.21!
im still suffering the loss of a floating moss and a penguin
@@dalias12I’m currently suffering the loss off a dollar store mooshroom and an ice wizard.
Respectfully, name one use for the copper golem
@@justuraveragecunt9005 a randomizer. Decoration. A new frickin golem I mean we haven’t had a new one in years.
The thing about these mob votes is that once someone with a huge following says who they want to win, you can throw all actual opinions out the window. Remember the glow squid incident?
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Remember all those big name people beside DREAM that had larger audiences and wanted the other mobs and STILL lost the vote I REMEMBER. 🤦♂️
and the phantom incident... and the allay incident... yeah...
@@jackofarcades2813why you dissing on the allay bruv?
true
Honestly I think the main issue is clarifying what he mobs will really do. Like for example sniffer was seen as giving you some new flower options. Sure, nobody was expecting double the amount of existing flowers to be added, but just 2 mediocre flowers using a mob found in like three places that takes forever to do its thing? Really not worth it. Same for glow squid, they kinda gave the impression it would be able to hypnotize mobs and/or players, or at least do something similar, but its literally just the glow ink sac. It's much better this year, though, since they finally clearly said what each mob does without anything to give you another idea.
And ink that doesn't really glow it just "glows".
THIS
Lack of finer details on these are a major issue
Part of it is probably because they wanna figure out more specifics when they know they're actually gonna be adding it
But even "Armadillo adds wolf armour, It is between Iron and Leather in strength"
Crab claw lets you reach 2 blocks further
Penguin effect works on ice
etc. specifics like that would help people make an informed decision
Too me, it’s the missed potential in these mobs. ESPECIALLY in the sniffer. I love the sniffer’s design and concept. It’s the execution that I hate. Also, it was originally gonna have their eggs spawn in ocean ruins chests. But then archeology came. And since the sniffer is a dinosaur like mob. They decide to have its egg be found in suspicious sand that are found in ocean ruins. So it’s not really the sniffer’s fault for being too tedious to get.
I think they need to change It to 100% from a ruin
Untill it got added to the game im pretty sure people tought allay dublicate stuff
My other issue with the mob vote is that we don’t get enough information about said mob, and if the community overhypes a specific one for (e.g.) a feature that doesn’t get added **glowsquidincidentintensifies** then there’s no second chance.
I'm gonna play devil's advocate here for a while. While I do agree with your point. The community sometimes hellbents itself on community made theories even when Mojang specifically says the won't be adding those features.
Case in point: Snuffer's plants. Mojang always stated they would be decorative only, yet the community tried to strong arm Mojang into making them useful, something which they eventually failed in doing so.
They lied about the Rascal and made him lose the vote
@@stevenoviedo541 even if it was just plants....why only 2?
There are fan made mods that have completely expanded on decorative vegetation several times over what we get in base minecraft. So if they were going to make a mob thats ONLY function is to unlock new decorative plants, why couldnt they be bothered to make more than 2?
I think that the mob vote should add all 3 mobs, but the winner gets added this year, and the losers get added next year.
YES PLEASE(something like they said with the biome vote)
@honkman29 It would be a win-win. Every mob still gets added, but the mob vote still feels important.
@@papyrusty368 I agree!(from a penguin fan)
@honkman29 I don't know what to vote. If you can dye the wolf armour from the armadillo, then I'm voting it.
exactly what i was thinking
1.22 should be the desert update. They could add the stuff from minecon live, and also add crabs and *THE GREAT HUNGER*
To be honest, I always thought the mob votes were bad and that they just sparked argument and controversy
Same
Mob votes are literally my least favorite game event ever because it's all just toxicity and arguments
there’s really no point.
Ywell all that brings attention to the game so all the toxicity is doing the oppisite its bringing more attention by flooding youtube with "why the mob vote sucks" videos, it just brings more attention and lets face it its just older fans that are arguing meanwhilenewer fans are just trying to choose which one to vote for
P.s. I am a newer fan i joined during early 2021 (also i am not a child i am currently in college so please be civil about it)
@@pig3guWell the mob vote on top of all of the other controversies does not help the game and does nothing except worsen the game's performance and the community, there's no benefit to the votes
@@EmperorPenguin1217 how does it worsen the games performance it only adds 1 mob?!
I think a major problem with the votes is that they are designed as a tool for engagement. The features are secondary which is why the mobs always kind of feel like side content for the sake of itself. We even know that some of the mobs added to the vote are scrapped content from previous updates, like the allay being planned and scrapped from the nether update. They’re basically just small bonuses. I do really wish mojang would just add one of the losers soon though to show that they can, since they have said that they are open to it, and people still seem to widely think the mobs are gone forever. I think part of the problem is that they are still so behind on the biome votes, so adding stuff they have no obligation to before that would be kind of weird even if it was something small
Yeah, I absolutely prefer your idea for the vote just determining what order the mobs get added. Especially in a year like this one, where I would genuinely love to see all three mobs get added. The current mob votes just seem to make the Minecraft community tear each other apart over people not wanting to vote for the same mob they do.
As long as the mobs have a decent amount of depth, I agree.
Your proposal of the Sniffer being able to find a new plant with a dye that brings back a removed indev wool colour sounds a lot like my idea of the Sniffer being able to dig up the classic Red and Cyan Roses. I also use the Allay to help with picking up crops like Sugar Cane or Wheat that I missed in big farms.
Yes maybe even making the allay similar to agent from edication edition
You give it a place to work and then chose an action for it to do in the place
@@Muho_is_me I do not like that idea. That gives too much power to one entity that can be found in bulk. Wouldn't performance also be an issue due to the Allay needing to load chunks in order to do its task?
The mob votes really aren’t for the mobs, they’re a hype machine
Yes
That combined with consumer research, which is one of the most dystopian things to me in contemporary advertising/marketing, that Microsoft research on customers has been rebranded as a "vote" among a "community"
Imagine if the losing mobs are just added when their biomes are updated instead of being gone forever. Like snowy biomes with penguins, beaches with crabs and savannahs with armadillos. Since the armadillo has won, that becomes the mob that is included in the next update and we wait longer for the crab and penguin.
I think one of the worst parts this year is that there are two mobs that are insanely requested and would fit perfectly into the game, and one mob that isn't as insanely requested and would still fit pretty well into the game.
This statement applies to every mob vote.
I just hope that already-existing Mobs are able to be updated… specifically bats. Mojang wants to focus on environmentally significant animals? Bats make up an entire FOURTH of mammals on Earth and are chock-full of unique powers.
I don’t think Mojang is lazy, I just think that Minecraft’s broad appeal means they have to consider what EVERY SINGLE PLACE would think of even the tiniest of additions. I mean, these updates are free. But at the same time, these three are all actual animals that are exceedingly popular- and they’ve already spent resources on their trailers!
IMO a good way to give bats a purpose would be allowing you to feed them fruit in exchange for them helping you out depending on what you fed them, eg. An apple will have them lead you to an exit, feeding them a golden apple gives you a mining haste buff, etc
You might not believe this, but
Mojang just updated bats.
@@4nowand4ever89 Today is a good day.
The random various memes Odyssey adds ALWAYS gets a chuckle outta me. Literally one of the reasons why i love this youtuber
The fact that a primarily Nintendo-focused youtuber can sum up all the main problems of the mob vote and how to fix it in about 10 minutes really says something
Suggestion: Instead of voting for which of 3 mobs are added. Vote for HOW 1 mob will be added.
Mojang say that the mobs they present in the videos are only ideas at this stage, they come up with a "use" and will only decide fully how to implement it, if it wins. So scrap that, pick 1 really cool mob like a Penguin for example, and let the vote be for what the Penguin does. (E.g. Option (a) It speeds your boat up. Option (b) It picks up items dropped in the water and fetches them back to you. Option (c) Improves your traction on ice, while maintaining speed benefits)
A sort of "Make-a-Mob" poll? I'd be down for that.
Or maybe the opposite. We get the feature but get to vote for what new mob will have that feature.
@@lucasmatthiessen1570i feel like that could be a whole separate thing. like if they did a mob design contest with specific guidelines to take into account.
I like the idea apart from the fact that most people aren't game designers, and thus, we will most probably get a very steep popwer creep, where people just vote for the most "powerful" mob.
I definitely like this idea way more. Having the mob vote choose the order of what gets added instead of deleting interesting ideas is a much better system. I do hope some of the ideas from past mob votes return because, especially the three that lost in the first vote, were really interesting.
8:11 As a shadow fan i can confirm that my parole officer told me to say that i never killed anyone, and that if i did, hypothetically, i honestly regret it and will probably never do it again
I straight up don’t understand what thought process led to mojang coming up with the phantom in the first place, and then people actually voting it in, an extremely unfortunate combination of baffling game design and voters just not even reading the description of what they’re voting for,
To be fair, it was the only undead flying hostile
There should be a mob vote of all the fan favorite lost mobs
5:05 i agree with odyssey, i think the sniffer exclusive dye types should be maroon, beige, and all of the removed colors from minecraft classic
You going over the previous mob votes really made me realize just how long it’s been since I last played Minecraft. I haven’t played it since before the Allay won that mob vote.
You're not missing much imo
It has been so stale that people are going back to older versions, sometimes as far as beta 1.7 with modpacks
3:29 you know, I wonder what it would’ve been like if Steve was in Smash 4
It’s crazy to think we actually lose more mobs than we get. Whatever happened to the other mobs? Did mojang just forget about them? Why make mob ideas and tease them just so you can take them away and never use them?
I gotta say this mob vote has been the most controverial. Yet.
there was the glow squid thing in the 2020 one
#BOYCOTTTHEMOBVOTE
Have people forgotten about the biome votes?
6:38 Mario odyssey night theme while talking about a night mob? Nice.
Recycling mob vote mobs feels like a no brainer. Why why WHY would Mojang go through the trouble of designing three new mobs _every year_ when they have so many unused mob ideas already... mob ideas that fans REALLY want to see again! Honestly bringing back the old mobs would be better publicity then making new ones, especially if they tacked on a small extra feature to improve them for the rerun!
6:22 “And our finally mob vote winner was the Phan-“ *Gets ad*
Bro hates the phantom so much, I got an ad right before he could finish saying Phantom
My biggest problem with mojang updates is the difference between them and the terraria devs. The terraria devs add so much content every update, while mojang doesnt
Cool vid but 1 thing you've gotten wrong, the only mobs that have been perm deleted are the ones from the first mob vote, every other mob goes on a shelf and is waiting for it's time to shine ( confirmed by Mojang )
I might be late to the party but I love that at 0:57 the puppet is there
Specifically Phantom Puppet.
As a casual player allays are pretty useful when I’m harvesting stuff. Like when I’m getting wood I set them to collect saplings or when farming they pick up the stuff I miss. It’s kinda niche but it’s helpful in situations where things can get lost
Same for me when I need to harvest a large amount of Sugar Can or Wheat.
1:06 well this didnt age well 💀
“I’m voting for the crab btw”
Woomp woomp
I personally think we should get a special snapshot with all 3, so we can see all of the features of each one. Lack of information on each mob is the biggest problem with the vote.
why not just add all 3 to the game at that point if they already did the work?
At that point making a vote and not adding all 3 would make ever less sense...
@@terra1149that would be so funny, mojang fully implements all 3 mobs into a working snapshot and goes "okay now pick 2 that we delete from the game"
While that’s a good idea, the reason they do the votes (other than the community hype) is so they could take more time programming the winner mob into the game. So, if they already programmed the other mobs, might aswell just add them all, right?
@@StvhlingerI can totally see Mojang getting them all 50% ish ready and putting them on the shelf when they lose.
It like when they bring back the mcrib.
Can i say that literally the only reason anyone voted for the glowsquid was because we were told it would GLOW and luminate dark, underground water, a mechanic that would have been really useful but it doesn't do that.
I've always prefered the biome vote. I like the idea of expanding upon preexisting content rather than trying tack on a single new mob, atleast that's what some of the mob votes have felt like. It feels more impactful to the game and of course the losers aren't doomed to be on a wiki page of stuff that will never be added to the game.
It still stirs up discussion and community interaction, too. Honestly if they just made the changes you talked about it'd be so much better.
Only the one with the phantom is permanent, could you not have done the 5 seconds of research to confirm this?
Could you not have watched the 11 minute video to realize I mentioned this and said that if that is the case then the problem is their lack of clarification
@@Odyssey_Central they did clarify it, it’s isnt worth repeating anymore because they’ve already said it
I'll never forgive the devs, nor the community for rejecting my BELOVED AND PERFECT Copper Golem.
Idk. The allay allows non stackable item sorting for machines which I have used extensively. The copper golem is a randomizer which I can already make fairly easily. Of course I wanted the copper golem, but I’m glad I lost to Allay because in hindsight it’s very useful
@kaielmacmillan9258 I don't remotely care what it's function was, I just love the little copper golems and the game needs more use for copper. I have never even seen an Allay in game.
Same >=(
Woah… ok. Well I’d like copper golem one day too
At least they still are on the shelf of ideas.
have they ever confirmed the recent mob votes are gone forever
Tbf other than the 2017 and 2023 mobs (they should’ve added all of them), the only mobs I wish they still added were the Iceologer and the Copper Golem. They were already doing a mountain update from the previous year so why didn’t they just straight up add the Iceologer to fit with the theme? And also considering how useless copper is no offense, the Copper Golem would’ve been a great way to add more usage to copper even if you don’t ever plan to make them.
Copper really is crazy useless for such a common ore
imo theres no excuse or the moobloom. literally just a different texture.
i bet i could program that in a single day, and i have very limited experience in coding. just gotta copy over the mooshroom an change minor variables.
The hungrybox crab clip in the beginning LOL
i think it would be nice for the other mobs to eventually get added into minecraft. the mob voted being the first to get in, the other two coming in a year later
The Shadow vs Skull Kid example was probably the best way I've ever heard this explained (and probably ever will)
The crab lost
Rip crab 🦀
🙏 Hope it gets added at some point in the future.
I think the phantom is more useful than the rest besides the armadillo because the slow falling potion is incredibly useful in the dragon fight, especially in hardcore.
Ok I haven’t watched the whole video, but in my opinion, removing the mob vote is a shit idea.
1. It probably means we’d get less mobs every day. One of the big reason they do the mob vote is to bring attention to mc live. No mob vote, no point to bring more mobs in.
2. Less variety. Say if we get a desert update, we’d mainly get desert themed mobs. No sniffer in a savannah update. No allay in a nether update. Etc.
3. They said they would bring the mobs back if it fit the theme. They’re not “locked in a vault” like everyone says.
In my opinion, it’d be cool in the short term, but would be worse in the long term.
Minecraft already has too many useless mobs, and mob votes lock much needed features behind a vote which is inherently awful
In all honesty, idk why people are voting for the crab. All 3 of these mobs don't have good utility, I feel like this vote is down to a subjective "which do you like" thing. They are more ambient mobs than anything.
Ye I don't think anyone is gonna search for the rarest biome in the game just for maybe 3 blocks longer block placing from a tool that probably breaks
This is the ONE mob vote rant I actually agree with! Its fun to talk about, we just eventually need all the options!
Mojang does more content and updates for the Chinese version in a month than for the actual game in one year...
They should do a mob update where they add every single mob we lost and only make few changes to the game or even just one good one to keep us entertained
Ex: this update we got all those mobs and the crafting table thing
Here’s an idea for a mob vote, *REMOVE THE PHANTOMS FROM THE GAME* and replace them with something else. I’d say that’s a decent idea.
I think the track record for the winners should change, but we're gonna have to depend on the community for that one.
The REAL problem is that the mobs are shallow & have a single, niche use-case that doesn't make them feel relevant 99% of the time or a part of the game's world.
Also, the fact that they don't elaborate on small details ISN'T helping.
Well the mob vote is officially gone now. I hope the losers are gonna be added soon now that no more mob votes will happen.
I wish they would have kept the mob vote, but each year, the mobs were the ones that lost from the last few years. Until they eventually added all the mobs that lost, proving to us that they do add the losers eventually, meaning that future mob votes aren’t as high stakes.
I think a lot of issues with the mob vote is mojang doesn’t give enough info. We were told that we’d get a new seed/crop from the sniffer, not a flower only useful for the sniffer (breeding it, or absolutely nothing). It’s either because they don’t have the entire idea when they show it, they don’t give the proper info, or they change after it’s been voted since changes happen all the time when developing.
I think that they should add the top 2 votes and the third is delayed so that everyone is happy and so it’s a tiny bit easier for developers if they were to do this
0:57 I don’t remember one of those from the original mob vote
nah bro it's always been there. You just looked at it wrong
My main issue isn’t that they’re gone forever, but it’s the fact it’s been 5 years and no meerkats or ostrich
The mob votes are such a wasted concept that has too many fundamental design problems for them to work properly. Like what's even the point of making the fanbase vote for 3 mobs with undercooked concepts and features if you're just going to clearly only hype one of them up and not further expand on the others? Especially when you can easily add all 3 of them in the same update. Not to mention that most of the contestants aren't even that good anyway, it's usually just a choice of picking the least terrible mob. If Mojang wants to bring the community together and let them have a say on what they want to come to the game then they need to stop dangling keys over the community's face like we're babies and just stop throwing away things that could work but don't due to their own incompetence.
Moby które odpadły nie są stracone na zawsze bo w mob vote nie głosujemy na moba który się pojawi w grze tylko na moba który się pojawi wcześniej od innych. Trzeba też pamiętać że mob vote to tylko "dodatek" do całej aktualizacji a nie główna żecz.❤
In English this is what he said. Mobs that are eliminated are not lost forever because in mob voting we do not vote for the mob that will appear in the game, but for the mob that will appear before the others. You must also remember that mob vote is only an "add-on" to the entire update, not the main feature.
They couldn’t have just added the moo bloom as a cow that spawns in flower biomes???
Thank you for acknowledging the fact that we still get free updates 14 years later, it feels like some people don't appreciate that.
You can appreciate a game still being updated and also critizice the past few updates for being mediocre lately
I mean, Mojang is milking Bedrock players so much with their terrible Marketplace why would they stop updating? It's not like they're doing it out of generosity.
Well they earn from bedrock tho?
Milking and keep milking
Terraria does the same tho
@@EmperorPenguin1217the 19 update being mediocre doesn't mean the game is getting ruined.
Like yes they are certain in Minecraft that need to get better and the game has flaws . But another of people are exaggerating things and devalue the work Mojang puts through.
As someone who isn't too invested in Minecraft but watches your videos of it anyway, I would love to see a "Cut Mobs of Minecraft" video!
In my opinion, your proposed solution would be good for a time, but eventually, I think it would lead to a huge backlog of mobs because Mojang adds new ones to the game so slowly. One idea I had would be for them not to reveal the mobs in the mob vote but have a contest to determine what TYPE of mob to add to the game. For example, Hostile Mob vs. Passive Mob vs. Redstone Mob, or something like that. That way, no one would be that upset if their choice lost because they'd know more mobs of that variety will make it into the game at some point. Other examples would be Land Mob vs. Aquatic Mob, End Mob Vs. Nether Mob, Mesa Mob vs. Taiga Mob, etc. It would probably be less high stakes, but I think it's an option worth considering for some years.
but like me, i also vote for the mobs, i want to make an armadillo park in my game to keep them there.
i love armadillos and we also vote for the mobs and not only for uses.
@@jktech2117 Oh, an armadillo park would be really cool, I want crab to win but if armadillo or penguin wins then it will be fine
@@Sheepybearry welp i hope our protest work and they promise all three in the future
@@jktech2117 that's already a thing. The losers will be added at some point in the future.
@@Lyokoheros-KLPXTV welp this is the point of the whole protest, we just want mojang to promise they will be added. we like the mobs and want them all.
Here while minecraft is live. No joke, the ENTIRE chat is #stopthemobvote.
I think they just need to do something to remind people that no, not all of these mobs are gone forever. though I feel like they already proved that with frogs people disagree because it’s just the biome vote. and I think they should do a vote with past candidates so that the backlog doesn’t keep growing too fast
They don't need to be "reminded" because its a lie. The biome vote was the only case where that happened. With mob votes 2 options get removed forever
If they just put a single loser into the game almost none of this backlash would be happening
the frog doesnt count because, as you mentioned, it was a biome vote, not a mob vote. if 1.19 didnt have the swamp update, we wouldnt have gotten frogs with it. mob vote mobs are separate from the update itself, theyre plastered ontop, and sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt. none of the losers of the mob votes have been added, and weve had long enough to add them all and then some. the losers are gone permanently it seems, which is why we are revolting
"oh no, I just didn't slept for 3 intire days no I have to punch in the air 3 times its so bad" - avarage fantom rager
I think a boss vote would be cool (although it would get people even more mad.)
Next year should be a vote between the most voted mobs
Idea:
Next year could be the TMMU
The mega mob update
All the jobs that lost get added back in one mega update
Not only will it bring more people but make everyone happy
Next next update will add all the biomes that have yet to be added
Then after that they hold a biome vote in which the winner gets added next, second after, and third gets added last
Each of the biomes has one or more mobs to go with it
Rinse and repeat
With all due respect, the main use of sniffers is that theyre silly little guys. Very whimsical. Pet.
I think a good way to improve the vote is to make all of the mobs equally good so there is an actual point to voting
So for the first mob vote only, those 3 mobs will never get in, but for the rest of them (2020-2023), those mobs will eventually get in. Kinda want to clear that up, if it hasn't already been cleared up.
and where did you hear that?
The Minecraft devs saying it multiple times, that any non 2017 vote just goes back into the idea's box and could be added in a future update if it fits what they want to do.
@@Alibium "According to Ulraf, a developer at Mojang, the mobs who lose the vote will be kept in the company's "IdeasLibrary." This repository has been referenced in the past, but it apparently keeps note of various aspects of Minecraft that go unimplemented." -www.sportskeeda.com/minecraft/what-happens-losers-minecraft-mob-vote
And there is a Twitter post showing it, and also @plumfadoodle4908 gave another perfect reason.
@@plumfadoodle4908you forgot the second part of they said, this doesnt mean they will be added.
so yes theres big chance if many mobs never be added after losing the vote.
what they should say is "ALL of then will be added eventually around 1-3 years after introduction" so not only all mobs will be added but community wont lose trust if take too long for the mob be added
the screenshot of the yource was even in the video @@Alibium
Make a spite battle for every single Mario wonder enemy when it comes out
What the fuck
10:42 "I've heard some people on twitter saying they aren't permanently removed-"
*shows a tweet from an actual developer of the game saying the mobs just get put back on the shelf for now*
It was the first mob vote, which added the phantom, where the other losers were disqualified forever. The massive outrage from that is what made them change and say the other losers will be added to the "idea pool". The devs have stated this on twitter several times, but i see so many people say they're deleted forever, when they literally added frogs and mangrove, the second place finisher, 2 updates ago. So yes, in your pinned comment, they do need to make this more clear.
The frog was from a biome Vote so as of right now, no mob from an actual mob, vote has been added.
"the allay is better but still pretty niche"
me who didn't know what niche meant until after I started watching odyssey central:
Niche is a pretty niche word
8:58 laugh at this crab hater
Wonder who that is…..,,.,,.,,……..,..,……..,..
@@Odyssey_Central Your alt
they should hold two mob votes each year the second being a vote between alll of the old mobs
What if, hear me out, they just add all 3?
Universe will collapse
@@syderotykothat's a risk I'm willing to take
being a golem fan I don't think my heart could've taken a golem being an option this year
1:37 I’m wheezing 🤣
a lot of people say to just choose all 3 mobs but thats kinda lame and leaves no excitment for what could be next. instead I think we should go back to biome votes so instead of getting a single mob, we can get an entire biome pack
Not to mention all the coding they’d have to do.
Thats literally what i have always thought about the mob vote and what i see a lot of people say
Not one minds having a big event to choose a mob
Everyone is upset because the other good ideas are just deleted from reality, plus it would make underwhelming mobs from votes be less disappointing because i feel part the disappointment is "wow we lost out on X for this?" Not just the mob not being to interesting
As i have said. We need to get two mobs by splitting the vote into 50/50. Sure we wouldnt get all three but two out of three is good enough
fr. theres always a clear loser.
im not even voting for penguin despite liking it the most cause i know it wont win. id be throwing away my vote.
@djinnspalace2119 yeah I want the penguin. Sad I've been requesting it since 1.9
and if mojang dont, lets then boycott the marketplace, as i said on my video.
why is this my suggestion? companies only talk money, and about the marketplace creators during boycott we can donate to them directly via paypal or something which is even mich better since they get 30% cut from marketplace
Agree the mob vote should stop and all 3 mobs should be added even if its taken longer
Their was also a Chinese mob vote, its how we got the Panda. Their were four other mobs, Alligators, Deers, Monkeys, and River Dolphins. The first mob vote was actualy a twitter poll, were the Llama beat the Alpaca, and their was a Cat vote aswell.
I’m sorry but ignoring “the incident”, the Glow Squid thing was one of the worst votes. Like this multi million company really had us arguing over 2 retextures vs a fully realized, unique mob that fit the update theme perfectly. At least the other years I could see why they might need us to choose.
nah i still miss the moobloom.
Glow Squids would have been perfect for the deep dark update, but they were added too early.
Dude Mojang literally told us they would bring them back if it fit the theme they were going for 💀💀💀
Only problem is that "Will return eventually" is Mojangese for "Gone forever"
#JusticeForTheMoobloom
Glad I'm not the only one
The crab lost, Rest In Peace, Mr Krabs
At least it wasn’t the first mob to lose
One name. Dream
*Just ask: Why dont Mojang just add all 3 of them...?*
Like, why? Its an UPDATE. Its only purpose Its to GIVE NEW CONTENT! Like... "oh wow, Pink trees!"... and thats it???
Mojang condones communism and I’m here for it
Urrrbllrgh
I honestly really agree with your opinion adding the losers later rather than never would improve the mob vote heaps.