MCU Multiverse FINALLY Explained - Timelines, Universes, KANG's Plan & Avengers SECRET WARS

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  • Опубликовано: 29 окт 2023
  • The MCU Multiverse Finally Explained! Get your Loki-inspired shirts and support our MERCH STORE Here → screencrushmerch.com/
    The MCU Multiverse is a lot of fun--but man does it get confusing. What's the difference between a universe and a timeline? How does this fit into Cictor Timely, Kan'g Pln, and the TVA? In this video w4 explain the difference and how all of this is leading up to Avengers Secret Wars.
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  • @ScreenCrush
    @ScreenCrush  6 месяцев назад +35

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    • @Invalidcookie-bv4cx
      @Invalidcookie-bv4cx 6 месяцев назад +1

      Yup... You got it. Tony stark broke "Time" not loki. Revona was right. "the avengers did what they were suppose to do."
      That was the concept. A model of proof that it works. If the Avengers get pruned "Nathal Richards" can't find the discovery about the Ancor.
      Notice how Kangs Tempad looks just like Tony's model of the Ancor, to ground him to HIS universe. The only thing that doesn't make sense is Steve Rogers.

    • @Matisaro
      @Matisaro 6 месяцев назад +1

      Time only works like back to the future in the TVA, which is like a little merry go round in the center of the timelines. Think about it, you would need to have a flow of time to even talk or do anything there so there is a self contained loop but unlike the refined timelines of the loom the TVA time works like back to the future where there is a past present and future you can alter.
      It is either a natural loop Kang took advantage of or one he created to facilitate the TVA entirely.

    • @Matisaro
      @Matisaro 6 месяцев назад

      Further if you think about it the TVA HAS to have time which works like that otherwise variants could be born INSIDE the TVA which would eventually lead to Kang's downfall as anything that can happen does happen.
      SO the TVA is like a safe time loop around the citadel at the end of time which is where Alioth lives/was found.

    • @Matisaro
      @Matisaro 6 месяцев назад

      And I firmly believe that the Citadel at the end of time is built on the same void Alioth exists in and is the crumbling last remains of it as the timer for resetting the whole timeline is the last bit of material crumbling at the center before the rebirth.

    • @adamwilliams3970
      @adamwilliams3970 6 месяцев назад +1

      One thing you’re not noticing is that he who remains says that a variant of himself lived in the 31st century and he was a scientist discovered that there were universes stacked on top of each other.
      If that was the original why did he who remains call him a variant. The original is victor timely

  • @BiG_EaZyy
    @BiG_EaZyy 6 месяцев назад +617

    I think it's insane how they said this show had no reshoots, the story they set out to tell is the story we see and it's a masterpiece so far. Can't wait for these last 2 episodes.

    • @FireJach
      @FireJach 6 месяцев назад +61

      Somebody spent some time to plan it. The rest MCU phase 4 and 5 were messed up because they hired noobs to manage their time

    • @proximashining776
      @proximashining776 6 месяцев назад +46

      Not having to do reshoots should be standard I think. First you write the script. If you don't like the script, you rewrite it until you're satisfied with it. And only then you start filming. You film all the scenes that are in your script. Then you add special effects and other post-work. And that's it.
      Surely it must be cheaper that way too. Changing the script after you started filming, scrapping already filmed scenes and filming new ones instead, redoing special effects etc. - all that must cost a lot of extra money.

    • @ronthorn3
      @ronthorn3 6 месяцев назад +13

      Masterpiece? Lmao I mean it’s good, but a masterpiece? Just curious, what else in tv is considered a masterpiece to you as far as television goes?

    • @BiG_EaZyy
      @BiG_EaZyy 6 месяцев назад +17

      @@ronthorn3 breaking bad, mainly because of performances and character arcs, which is something this show has nailed. Plus the cinematography is excellent.
      🤷‍♂️

    • @SpyJamz
      @SpyJamz 6 месяцев назад

      @@proximashining776 that's how standard television is. Reshoots before Marvel's footprint was mostly if test audiences didn't respond well or an actor that was unavailable is suddenly now available. There are scheduled reshoots in TV but it's for very minor tweaks, not "let's change the entire 3rd act" type of reshoots. After the news broke about Marvel TV not having a script fully completed, didn't have showrunners but instead film executives running the shows, etc. I can see why MCU Disney+ is struggling. That's why I'm excited for Gunn's DCU as he learned from Marvel and prefers the old school route of having a finished script before going to production. Like you said, it keeps the budget lowered.

  • @Marvelousgamer7697
    @Marvelousgamer7697 6 месяцев назад +145

    Loki season 2 has been such a blast! The show is so good that even when stuff happens that I completely don't understand I still have so much fun watching it just because everything else on screen is just so incredible!

    • @MrMoneymaker33
      @MrMoneymaker33 6 месяцев назад +2

      Doug doesn’t agree with!!!

    • @michaelallen555
      @michaelallen555 6 месяцев назад +3

      What was it you didn't understand? Not being a prick i wanna help clarify, this show is a banger needs longer episodes.

    • @qpN4SiRqp
      @qpN4SiRqp 6 месяцев назад +6

      ​@@michaelallen555nimbly wimbly timey wimey stuff probably did him in

    • @hightolerance8728
      @hightolerance8728 6 месяцев назад +2

      Fr😂 😂 I NEVER been so invested in a series that I have to rewinded so much . My slow ass be missing what’s going on 😂🤦🏾‍♂️ but after about 2 rewatches an hella rewinds.. The Theories from whether Timely was put in the 19th century as a baby from another timeline or WAS he actually a Victor variant. IS starting to make sense. This show is up there with some Marvel movies. It’s definitely better than any other MCU tv show

    • @hightolerance8728
      @hightolerance8728 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@michaelallen555more so I’m just tryna to figure out if There are all one person or if they are actually variants of each other. I’m stating to think it the latter. 😂😂😂 I always wanted to use that in a sentence hahaha

  • @johnclayburchett
    @johnclayburchett 6 месяцев назад +35

    It makes me happy to hear “this job is a dream come true”. It certainly comes through in the work.

  • @SirOlivo
    @SirOlivo 6 месяцев назад +52

    All I know is that you guys NEED to keep making these videos. Like, at all cost. If it weren’t for SC I wouldn’t be so invested and aware of what’s happening, which would definitely dilute my experience overall. Thank you for making Marvel better!

    • @keremince50
      @keremince50 6 месяцев назад

      Exactly!! After each Marvel movie I watch, SC saves the day by explaining everything.

  • @iamhim2285
    @iamhim2285 6 месяцев назад +101

    Here’s a theory: The reason Loki can go back in time through the TVA and change things at the TVA is because the TVA has an apocalypse coming where everyone dies. So like in season 1, you can do whatever you want at the TVA and no branches will happen. Timeslipping was always possible at the TVA. Nobody ever saw it happen before so they thought it wasn’t possible. OB is the one who said it wasn’t possible but he got all of his knowledge from a Kang variant as he admitted in episode 4. HWR stated that his methods were deceptive. The “no time at the TVA” was just part of the dogma. Everything we see at the TVA is the past when you look at it from the end of time. I think the TVA used to be where the Citadel is.

    • @cyisacatnip375
      @cyisacatnip375 6 месяцев назад +9

      you forgot that the TVA is like a pocket dimension separated by time and space right?

  • @Earth_Being
    @Earth_Being 6 месяцев назад +5

    Thor would be so proud of his little brother seeing this Loki, he's everything & much more Thor wished he was.

  • @marting9112
    @marting9112 6 месяцев назад +16

    My faith in Marvel is being restored with Loki and GotG3. After years of mediocre series AND films, we finally get the quality the we expect from Marvel. I enjoy watching Loki so much. I hope it only gets better from here on out.

  • @theorycraftingmachine2876
    @theorycraftingmachine2876 6 месяцев назад +57

    My theory is, that during Loki Season 2 episode 6, Kang the conqueror will escape the Multiversal Engine Core, who gets stranded in the Void, saving Ravonna Renslayer from being consumed by Alioth, who will then tame the beast, then at the end of the same episode Loki will go on to run the TVA during the events of Deadpool 3, but then during the events of Avengers The Kang Dynasty, Kang the Conqueror along with Ravonna Renslayer will usurp the power that Loki has over the TVA, leading to Loki warning the Avengers, then they will fight the Council of Kangs, but at the end of the film, Kang the Conqueror will prune all of the other timelines, leaving only the Sacred Timeline, then during the events of Avengers Secret Wars, the Avengers fight Kang the Conqueror, but will then help redeem Kang the Conqueror of his evil ways, leading him to become He Who Remains!

    • @Immortal_Liberty
      @Immortal_Liberty 6 месяцев назад +1

      incorrect already, since Deadpool 3 script did not exist when they finished filming episode 6. So nothing like that will occur. And you will no longer see the variant you saw in ant man 3, wont be returning. Alioth will no longer be shown either. Renslayer will not be featured in the Avengers films btw. There will never be anymore pruning of all timelines, as it has already occurred in the past once, and much like John Connor was not originally someone who had Kyle Reese as the father, as it was not the first version of Skynet either, Terminator 2 and 3 explain this. We will not be seeing multiverse pruned anymore. And no, you will not see any One who remains, seems you were not paying attention to the video or the show ...he who remains is dead, he changed the past in a way where the loop is broken and he will never again become the one who remains.

    • @SAPANNow
      @SAPANNow 6 месяцев назад

      Dude I LOVE this theory. I hope Feige and co. have thought out Phases 5 & 6 as well as you just did. A few years ago I would have been certain they did, but now I'm not so sure. Phase 4 was very messy. Hoping 5 and 6 are better and more planned out.

    • @slack__
      @slack__ 6 месяцев назад +10

      @@Immortal_Liberty you say _they_ weren't paying attention, but you seem to miss the whole "you plunge your blade into my chest... and i end up back here anyways" part.
      HWR is inevitable, because loki and sylvie _didn't_ take his offer to take control of the TVA from him in season1, when it's what he wanted them to do - because he was tired of doing the loop again and again and again

    • @mr.m2695
      @mr.m2695 6 месяцев назад

      @@Immortal_Libertythey’ve kinda hinted Deadpool is gonna prune some variants.

    • @russrichardson991
      @russrichardson991 6 месяцев назад +1

      I can just see Principal Rennslayer taming Alioth by slapping its hands with a ruler

  • @trenitty81
    @trenitty81 6 месяцев назад +6

    These actors/actresses work so well with each other. Show is top notch!

  • @sterlingarcher5698
    @sterlingarcher5698 6 месяцев назад +97

    One thing I found interesting was that when OB and Moebius were discovering information via Loki talking to OB in the past...this is "old school" time travel logic - a single cohesive narrative that can be influenced in the past to affect the future (no branch timelines).
    Is this because TVA exists "outside of time" and can't have a branch reality?

    • @courtney-ray
      @courtney-ray 6 месяцев назад +7

      I think that plus the fact that Loki’s time slipping was partially due to having been kicked through the portal opened by He Who Remains’ TemPad.

    • @brandondelacruz4170
      @brandondelacruz4170 6 месяцев назад +11

      "Time works differently in the TVA."

    • @brandonjordan4596
      @brandonjordan4596 6 месяцев назад +2

      Yes, I think something about being within the TVA means that it cannot have branching timelines. That combined with using He Who Remains tempad that can seemingly access all points of time including the TVA's created the problem. All that makes sense, but who actually created the TVA is a bit of an issue right now.

    • @iamhim2285
      @iamhim2285 6 месяцев назад

      I suspect no branches happen at the TVA because an apocalypse is coming (already happened). Season 1 established this logic. I don’t think they can stop the loom from breaking.

    • @braukwood925
      @braukwood925 6 месяцев назад +3

      I’ve wondered if this is the same reason no one in the TVA seems to age.

  • @_Outdoor_Odyssey_
    @_Outdoor_Odyssey_ 6 месяцев назад

    Love your videos mate! Keep up the great work!
    Your videos are like extended edition for Loki

  • @IsiahBradley
    @IsiahBradley 6 месяцев назад

    THANKS for this, Doug and Ryan!!!! The book is really good but I just skimmed it. I wish you guys had waited a day and incorporated the stuff in the new trailer but there's always tomorrow!

  • @mekagoten
    @mekagoten 6 месяцев назад +14

    Didn’t He who Remains say, in season 1, that he only knew up to a certain part of the timeline. Anything after the moment the Loki’s arrived to him was new to him and he doesn’t know what happens next? That’s why he was excited to see what would happen when he dropped the pen… because he no longer knew what would happen … with that being said, how would he be able to plan all the events after his passing, as you theorized ? Unless he was lying … but it seemed so genuine when He Who Remains finally crossed the threshold of time as he knew it.

    • @Mikeskeeze
      @Mikeskeeze 6 месяцев назад +3

      Yeah i feel He who remains lied and has replanted himself somewhere as a backup for this new future he is unaware off. He was very excited so i see it as somewhat motivation for himself to get into the mix knowing Loki’s would kill him at that moment. God everyone can make up anything at this point and it all makes sense to some degree 😂 Marvel has struck this one out of the galaxy

    • @bleyd__
      @bleyd__ 6 месяцев назад

      Because it was beggining of a new loop so "old" Kang couldn't know what is gonna happen to "new" Kang. It might be some specific moment we dont know yet. Lets wait for all of Kang's story. And of course all of this doesn't mean that they had "free will", its just Kang didnt know what is gonna happen because he died before he could tell it to his new self :D

  • @gerrigarrick
    @gerrigarrick 6 месяцев назад +6

    I don't know. I can't figure it all out! What I do know is that thus far Loki's character arc has worked, seeing him question his identity in season 1 and growing into a guy who wants to heroically save his friends is what makes it all work. Unlike, secret Invasion, this show is led by character, because plot means nothing without it.

  • @MercedesBurks-wk9xj
    @MercedesBurks-wk9xj 6 месяцев назад +2

    Ryan!!! I am all the way there with you! My son has been a follower of you for a long time and I watch you with him. I had to finally become a FULL subscriber since I have been a supporter for years! On this one, I am in total agreement with you. You are the ONLY one out of the others like New Rockstars, Cosmic Wonder, Heavy Spoilers and etc that backs up my own theories I give to my son about Marvel! You are the best and you have a NEW follower for life! Keep them coming! Headed to watch the review on the trailer… let’s go!

  • @StygianStyx
    @StygianStyx 6 месяцев назад +1

    Time loops, paradoxes, Causality, the multiverse, etc it's actually really easy to understand. I have been loving the hell out of this Loki show.

    • @razzle1964
      @razzle1964 6 месяцев назад

      🤔🤨😅😉✌️

    • @vrochill
      @vrochill 6 месяцев назад +2

      🤓

  • @palashpathak3752
    @palashpathak3752 6 месяцев назад

    Really like this new editing style of show and tell. Props to the editor.

  • @chappelle23
    @chappelle23 6 месяцев назад +4

    My problem with the time loop paradox is that there was likely an original set of events that enabled the loop in the first place, especially when branched timelines are involved. 31st century Kang could have gone through a natural series of events, became He Who Remains, and decided that Victor Timely was the variant to knock over the dominos to create Him. In multiverse/alternate timelines, you can’t preclude that there was a natural origin of the timeline to cause the loop.

  • @VeeTuTonic
    @VeeTuTonic 6 месяцев назад +18

    One of the few gems Marvel have brought us recently. Loki has been so much fun to watch.

  • @Hendrix.Robinson
    @Hendrix.Robinson 6 месяцев назад

    This was good video! Thanks Ryan!

  • @AbitofEverything4U
    @AbitofEverything4U 6 месяцев назад

    Fantastic work as always, Ryan. Love your vids. And thanks for the shout out. Honored to have helped in any way I could.

  • @DylanMadd
    @DylanMadd 6 месяцев назад +32

    Been wondering (pointlessly probably) about timelines vs universes. Loki S1 seemed to suggest a variant changing an outcome w/ a different choice created a new timeline and THAT creates a split UNIVERSE. But later, its seemed that each UNIVERSE has all its unique TIMELINES. And those can diverge and have a timeline war like what evidently happened when Kang did all that and ended up with his “sacred timeline”. In his one unique universe.
    Basically it’s still not clear.

    • @isaacmarshmallow8751
      @isaacmarshmallow8751 6 месяцев назад

      Watch 10 dimensions explained. Their relationship will make more sense

    • @proximashining776
      @proximashining776 6 месяцев назад +5

      I think the confusion is the result of the movie makers using the terms "universe" and "timeline" interchangeably. They're both basically the same thing. They should have picked one term (either universe or timeline) and use it all the time instead of switching between them.

    • @cartmanbruh23
      @cartmanbruh23 6 месяцев назад +1

      it's annoying.. I have given up. lol

    • @courtney-ray
      @courtney-ray 6 месяцев назад +12

      In multiverse of madness, Strange encounters other Strange’s in other universes. They weren’t variants that branched from the sacred timeline, they were completely different versions in different dimensions with their own timelines. In Loki, the nexus events create branched timelines that create different variants.
      I think part of the reason Dream walking is forbidden is because it creates Dream connections between universes. Bridged universes are basically the multiverse. The same happens when the timelines from universes branch and collide. Unpruned they encroach on different timelines in other universes. That why you get incursions.

    • @proximashining776
      @proximashining776 6 месяцев назад

      @@courtney-ray If timelines from universes branch and collide all on their own, why is the multiverse war apparently caused by Kang portrayed as the reason for the destruction of the multiverse though? If universes collide with each other even without external "help", simply because their branches grow a certain way, then that must be a natural thing.
      And defeating Kang wouldn't actually save the multiverse because the incursions are happening naturally even without Kang.

  • @mikebid87
    @mikebid87 6 месяцев назад

    Incredible breakdown Ryan!

  • @patricksmatrick8166
    @patricksmatrick8166 6 месяцев назад +15

    I’ve been saying since we met him that Victor was put there by He Who Remains (or obviously whoever set this plan in motion) and he was plucked and planted, just like how they used young Sylvie in their plan and orphaned her from time. It was the only theory I could come up with which made me feel better about how slap-sticky and filler that episode felt when we met him. O.B. even said that Victor was beyond brilliant for that time, and he was nerfed by the limitations of technology in the time they planted him, on top of being a second class citizen due to his race in that era. It was like a prison he didn’t know he was being kept in, sorta like any variant who works for the TVA.

    • @ldplays5663
      @ldplays5663 6 месяцев назад +4

      And now the timeline where Victor Timely is planted is continued as the sacred timeline, and all others are pruned, including the original one where he came from, since the sacred timeline is the one that kang decides it is.
      And then, because he is limited, he dies as a poor candle-maker, and no one suspects of him, but then, when the threshold comes, and he dies, the book is delivered, he turns onto victor timely, is set on his path, multiversal war, lioth, tva, The one who remais, loki(...) and so i believe.

  • @1okdude
    @1okdude 6 месяцев назад

    Just wanted to say that I'm loving the addition of The Big Lebowski clips. I like your style dude.

  • @Jgutterud
    @Jgutterud 6 месяцев назад

    I can really notice a difference in your hair since I started watching, that's a great ad for keeps😊

  • @cheekster777
    @cheekster777 6 месяцев назад

    *AWESOME!* 😎
    Thanks Ryan.

  • @scoob4u
    @scoob4u 4 месяца назад

    Nice breakdown, Ryan!

  • @delaoricky
    @delaoricky 6 месяцев назад

    Dude I love this video so much information ❤❤❤❤❤

  • @MILO021
    @MILO021 6 месяцев назад

    Enjoyed the video ❤️

  • @nathanadam
    @nathanadam 6 месяцев назад +1

    I think Jonathan Majors gives us a hint at Kang the Conqueror's return through the distinct manorisms and speech patterns he uses for each Kang variant. For example, when Miss Minutes shows Renslayer the moment He Who Remains wipes her memory, the vocal cadence Majors' employs in the scene is closer to Kang's deliberate, reserved speech than it is to HWR more flamboyant showmanship. Great show! Love the channel Ryan and Colton!

  • @memedelacrememe
    @memedelacrememe 6 месяцев назад +2

    Kang "falling" to the bedrock of all existence really is the crucial point of the entire saga (which follows from Infinity War, so it fits perfectly). I'm also glad you finally made a reference to Lost, as I've been getting "not Penny's boat' vibes for a while now. I'll see ya in another life, brotha.

  • @RodrigoMeschiatti
    @RodrigoMeschiatti 6 месяцев назад

    Ive been watching this channel for years now and more than once the theories you guys come with for future projects are way cooler than what the writers end up doing.

  • @Domdrok
    @Domdrok 6 месяцев назад

    Heck yeah, Pavel T!

  • @erikagholston6610
    @erikagholston6610 6 месяцев назад

    I’m going to keep coming to Screen Crush for my multiverse explanations.

  • @snazzyopublic7985
    @snazzyopublic7985 6 месяцев назад +25

    1) That Victor getting spaghetti-ed creates the multiple Kangs: I agree.
    2) That Loki is going to be spaghetti-ed again. I agree.
    3) That each of his friends in the TVA visit their life per the trailer - YES. AND THIS IS LOKI’s MOTIVATION. See he loves Mobius, Casey, B-15, and Slyvie. If he can put them into happy timelines and keep them safe, he will do it. Thus, he will lose again.
    Not mentioned by you yet but I think it KEY: When Mobius & Loki enter Victor Timely’s childhood, the year is specified but NOT ‘Sacred’ or ‘Branched’. That’s the Nexus moment - not the book. Somehow we go back to that.

    • @ChrisBeardsley
      @ChrisBeardsley 6 месяцев назад +2

      Keen observation. Nicely done.

    • @blkjem21
      @blkjem21 6 месяцев назад

      I think you're right about the Nexus point

    • @thaUnWavering
      @thaUnWavering 6 месяцев назад

      For #3, how does Loki go about that goal? And it seems aligned with what Sylvie would want.

  • @jonathanhadden7157
    @jonathanhadden7157 6 месяцев назад +7

    Kang's return is not complicated at all. Remember when Thanos snapped Loki's neck, killing him? That was the death of Loki in that Timline, but Loki was alive since birth in that timeline prior to his death. Likewise, there's a point where Victor Timely left the Timeline to visit the TVA, but all moments of Victr Timelys iife (prior to his death) still exist on the Timeline. The same way that a past version of Loki "sidesteped" his own death, Loki can sip back in time and find a younger Vicotr Timely (still on the Timeline), and take *THAT* Victor Timely back to the TVA to do it differently. And he can do this nigh-infinite times, for every moment of Victor Timely's life from birth until he stepped thru the time portal.

    • @giangctofficial853
      @giangctofficial853 6 месяцев назад

      You do know that if you do that, eventually u have to return what you’ve took to thay exact moment? If you keep sacrifice Timly like that i doubt things will remain the same when you can return him to every moment you took him away

  • @sagibear2506
    @sagibear2506 6 месяцев назад +3

    Marvel needs to do something with kang.
    Loki season 1 - kang is killed
    Antman 3 - kang is beaten by ant and killed
    Loki season 2 - kang shredded into pasta.
    Is kang the big bad or marvels version of kenny from south park

    • @bashengatheblackmanta7003
      @bashengatheblackmanta7003 6 месяцев назад

      Kang was beaten by the wasp in antman 3.

    • @jasonstrickland9245
      @jasonstrickland9245 6 месяцев назад

      Ultimately he shouldn't be the big bad, that should be the Beyonder or a trio of Beyonders, or more but Disney doesn't know what they're doing anymore.

    • @bashengatheblackmanta7003
      @bashengatheblackmanta7003 6 месяцев назад

      @@jasonstrickland9245 after endgame, marvel studio should have changed strategy, instead of doing long form arc thrue multiple phases, they should have made story arc last only one phase.
      The movies+the Disney shows allow them to tell the story in only one phase.
      PHASE 4 :the filler phase, this phase doesn't have a overarching story but would rather deal with the repercussion of the snap/blip has on the world (emotionally, phisically, politically).
      Phase 5 :the Secret invasion storyarc
      Phase 6 : the multiverse story arc

  • @paulperez6132
    @paulperez6132 6 месяцев назад

    Nicely done guys....this is sound 👌

  • @Radical_Seth
    @Radical_Seth 6 месяцев назад +17

    This saga is sorta confusing ngl, and also overwhelming with all the movies but I still love it

    • @kittentalons
      @kittentalons 6 месяцев назад

      Kinda like with WandaVision, I'm enjoying the confusion

  • @deem6077
    @deem6077 6 месяцев назад +1

    _"He is the Kang who knocks."_
    *_"You're god damn right!!!"_*
    🤣🤣😂😂 Maaan this is so well-produced!

  • @skmky01
    @skmky01 6 месяцев назад

    Got my Variant zip up hoodie yesterday!🎉❤

  • @michaelmartinez7671
    @michaelmartinez7671 6 месяцев назад +2

    Dude, u n Doug ROCK!!

  • @gurieldaniel6004
    @gurieldaniel6004 6 месяцев назад +3

    Ryan, one thing you haven't mentioned yet and I thought to bring it up. if we compare the MCU to the comics - 616 to 199999, Kang always was and always is a variant of another. the original Kang the Conqueror came from Earth-6311 and so does all his incarnations - Rama-Tut, Scarlet Centurion, Immortus, Iron Lad, and Mister Gryphon all started as Nathaniel Richards from Earth-6311, when he himself he's a variant of Nathaniel Richards who is a time traveller and the father of Reed Richards in Earth-616. so my theory is that this Kang, much like his comics counterpart took the control over the sacred timeline\main universe out of spite, he doesn't belong there from the first place, he's irrelevant to the sacred timeline. the loop can be broken because it's not supposed to happen and time will correct itself.

  • @syedshahar
    @syedshahar 6 месяцев назад

    Also, great video. 👍🏼

  • @gunterzote
    @gunterzote 6 месяцев назад

    MARVEL truthfully need your guide man! Cheers for your nerdly passion!

  • @rickeywilliams6223
    @rickeywilliams6223 6 месяцев назад

    AHHHH! Not this channel having a cut of my Favorite Lost episode explaining this mumbo jumbo. Loved that Charlie was in another world lol

  • @brianpank
    @brianpank 6 месяцев назад

    Love that you referenced Lost in this video. I see lots of parallels. Alioth =smoke monster?

  • @jeremiahdillard9201
    @jeremiahdillard9201 6 месяцев назад

    You spent alot of time on this. And it's great. And it would be a fantastic way to get rid of the multiverse, by stopping the time loop.

  • @prodjhurrikane3779
    @prodjhurrikane3779 6 месяцев назад

    lol love that guitar drop for the intro!!

  • @javierper3z
    @javierper3z 6 месяцев назад

    This sounds fun. I have no idea how they could tell this story in the movies… you need to know so much and in so much detail.

  • @justsomeguy3881
    @justsomeguy3881 6 месяцев назад

    On point

  • @ZyliceLiddell
    @ZyliceLiddell 6 месяцев назад

    11:06 I think it’s so cool that the Citadel is on top! 😃

  • @faraz164
    @faraz164 6 месяцев назад +2

    I mean the mid season trailer gave us some answers to all my doubts

  • @imcool6666
    @imcool6666 6 месяцев назад

    love this theory it’s amazing

  • @jamesreed620
    @jamesreed620 6 месяцев назад

    I LOVE this show! So many thought experiments

  • @adeolaogunleye4140
    @adeolaogunleye4140 6 месяцев назад +1

    This season is amazing

  • @treygtk
    @treygtk 6 месяцев назад

    amazing

  • @sorensmith9873
    @sorensmith9873 6 месяцев назад +4

    This sort of makes sense, am interested to see how this all plays out especially in the next few movies. Definitely didnt think Kang died at the end of Quantumania so seems like he will have a huge role heading into Secret Wars. As Marvel does have a history of changing comic storylines so as not to be too predicable, maybe Kang will be the movie version of The Beyonder? could see that happening

  • @Suavemente173
    @Suavemente173 6 месяцев назад

    Damn this was educational!!!

  • @ScreenCrush
    @ScreenCrush  6 месяцев назад +60

    What do you think of the multiverse saga?

    • @123j4j
      @123j4j 6 месяцев назад +20

      Kang gotta live for at least 24 hours

    • @JaredAnderson422
      @JaredAnderson422 6 месяцев назад +10

      They gotta put more gay women of colour in it

    • @harshaslay
      @harshaslay 6 месяцев назад +12

      Kang gona be terrifying more than thanos n make Avengers to pay. Lots of things will change and new things we are going to face

    • @luquepierce
      @luquepierce 6 месяцев назад +3

      Hi Ryan

    • @korymulanax3362
      @korymulanax3362 6 месяцев назад +6

      I've been enjoying it so far. I think with them cutting back on shows to focus on quality. It will get better from here, and happened long enough before the movie for them to get it right

  • @nancyscogin7549
    @nancyscogin7549 6 месяцев назад

    I just watched the Loki midseason trailer and OMG!!! 😄

  • @merda0000000000
    @merda0000000000 6 месяцев назад

    ScreenCrush are the 🐐

  • @wizardmari3497
    @wizardmari3497 6 месяцев назад

    Nice video

  • @richardbaldwin8572
    @richardbaldwin8572 6 месяцев назад

    You make an excellent point. Victor timely is he who remains. He said in the season finale of season one, the a variant of himself was born sometime in the 31st century.

  • @nnamdiarinze-nkwocha4787
    @nnamdiarinze-nkwocha4787 6 месяцев назад

    Thank you for clearing that up, I think I understand everything now.
    For a while I thought timelines and universes were interchangeable, ‘What If…?’ made me think that was the case. But after some contemplation and watching your video, I’m leaning more into the theory that each universe has it’s own unique timeline or- at the very least- a bundle of timelines that run parallel to each other. Compound changes or significant watershed events can lead to divergences at various points in these timelines, hence the creation of branches. One thing I want to add is that, timeline branching is a spontaneous phenomenon, if the laws of entropy are to be followed. But the MCU/Sacred Timeline uniquely had minimal or no branching, thanks to the actions of He Who Remains.
    As far I can see, timelines are not alternate universes. It’s the reason why we have different versions of Peter Parker that look nothing like each other and why there is an animated universe or one that is made entirely of paint 😂.

  • @PeachM0de
    @PeachM0de 6 месяцев назад

    Excellent use of the Deadpool clip. I still watch that movie and its sequel once a year.

  • @jaimemedina6895
    @jaimemedina6895 6 месяцев назад

    Doug is the main reason why I watch these videos.

  • @cams3009
    @cams3009 6 месяцев назад

    I love watching this channel and everything but it’s kind of crazy that it takes this level of explanation just to understand what’s going on. That speaks more to the incompetence at Marvel than anything.

  • @TheSportsandFilmFellowship
    @TheSportsandFilmFellowship 6 месяцев назад

    Amazing season !!

  • @ROLO31
    @ROLO31 6 месяцев назад +2

    i feel like the past being changed this season only works bc it’s in the TVA.. it was always said the TVA was outside of the sacred timeline and now that kang has been killed there is mobility between points in time in the TVA (like traditional time travel logic) unlike on the sacred timeline where branches are formed where changes are made (the MCU time travel logic weve gotten to know)

  • @larrymansfield9393
    @larrymansfield9393 6 месяцев назад

    I’m glad someone understands all this

  • @jillg9108
    @jillg9108 6 месяцев назад +3

    Maybe the Loki who came back after Sylvie killed Kang is not the same variant who was with Sylvie and Kang.

  • @3sgtecelica
    @3sgtecelica 6 месяцев назад +5

    I'm so pleasantly surprised how ScreenCrush actually understands and can simply explain what's going on with Kang and the whole timeline/ time travel stuff of the MCU. Even more, how most of it is VERY faithful to the comics.
    I'm seeing so many bad takes from here on RUclips and even worse ones from braindead bird app users. It's nice to know there are actual other MCU fans out there that get it.

  • @joevonloser00
    @joevonloser00 6 месяцев назад

    Excellent job all of yall. No one explains this quite like OUR channel. Thank you again Screen Crush

  • @jamescupp434
    @jamescupp434 6 месяцев назад

    Dope hypothesis!

  • @stevenramirez7446
    @stevenramirez7446 6 месяцев назад

    I rewinded this video so many times lol

  • @navinanase
    @navinanase 6 месяцев назад +2

    I think Loki can change the past in the TVA because time works differently in there. Also, the TVA is literally floating on a space outside of the time streams, so it make sense that place has different physical properties

  • @JROtoons
    @JROtoons 6 месяцев назад

    Thanks for this video, it explains a lot. I think I'm no longer confused... 616?

  • @picturezthat6121
    @picturezthat6121 6 месяцев назад

    Ok, before I read anymore. I like this theory; that added to your other video (future to this one) make sense. To add if Renslayer is in the void then this is when she and Kang meet. So her becoming whom she need to be also happens at this point. All things written by "he who remains". Awesome!!!

  • @MomoKun08
    @MomoKun08 6 месяцев назад

    10:50 He isolated the sacred timeline
    reminds me of the central finite curve of Rick

  • @benlorenzo1966
    @benlorenzo1966 6 месяцев назад

    I like the new opening music

  • @pratiku2489
    @pratiku2489 6 месяцев назад +1

    There are two ways to look.
    1) A multiverse traversing and time travelling Kang/ HWR/VT running in a loop.
    2) A linear timeline events and universe colliding with multiverse.
    And then you get Multiverse saga. Acts of Kang are like Dr Strange & Chavez jumping multiverses. Dr Strange has already worked together and fought with his multiversal counterparts he has just not done a temporal thing yet.

  • @adamlegros1180
    @adamlegros1180 6 месяцев назад

    This theory makes the “its who i need to be” Line hit harder

  • @kapriw801
    @kapriw801 6 месяцев назад

    14:52 😭😭😭 I’m traumatized, I just knew you were gonna say, “Your mom.” Lmaooo

  • @SkottAllen
    @SkottAllen 6 месяцев назад +1

    I agree with like 99% of this. One thing I would add is the possibility that Stark using the "inverted mobius strip" in Endgame may have actually been key to ending the "continuous loop"... Which the last Tony variant stuck in the infinite loop briefly mentioned might be an issue lol. It was also the presence of two Starks in 2012 that alerts the Loki variant that something is amiss. When you mess with time, it messes back, there's still "no version of this" where Loki wins against Stark/The Avengers, and even dead Tony is still the hero (E.D.I.T.H.) etc. It's only a matter of time before a variant of Stark returns.

  • @PapiBocaChula
    @PapiBocaChula 6 месяцев назад

    @4:09 He Who Remains changed the loop. It had started another way. By Victor and OB working together in the past. Now He Who Remains altered the Timeline. By changing Victor Timely makes it easier to win again. Master plan.

  • @jambetter
    @jambetter 6 месяцев назад +1

    I love time travel movies and I have come to this conclusion, every time travel movie we watch could have happed 1000’s of times repeating itself that we never see the movie/show we are watching is the 1 time it’s different and this goes for every time travel stories

  • @DuctusXemplo
    @DuctusXemplo 6 месяцев назад

    My hypothesis... they go back in time to and get the temporal expander thingy from HWR. They then use it before explosion

  • @justblamedave
    @justblamedave 6 месяцев назад

    I’m curious about Secret Wars so I read over the plot to the comics about The Beyonder and all. How in the multiverse are they going to pull this off? A cartoon? So many characters! Ugh. Anyways. I’m going back to my key lime pie and will keep watching Screen Crush to better understand all that’s happening. (High five Doug!)

  • @fisforfriday
    @fisforfriday 6 месяцев назад

    I’m getting Doug’s shirt!!! 😭😭 too freaking cute

  • @dajnor
    @dajnor 6 месяцев назад +1

    Glad to see someone mention Timely as Iron Lad. That's my take for sure. Also, is no one questioning how Kang can erase minds? And the connection to the Conqueror's supposed android army in Quantumania? I think Quantumania Kang reached the Beyondverse.

  • @stevens4492
    @stevens4492 6 месяцев назад

    I still find it funny when Miss Minutes says to Timely, "I got something important to tell you," all frantically then she insults him before getting rebooted.

  • @kjg5281
    @kjg5281 6 месяцев назад

    I LOVE SCREENCRUSH🥺🥺🥺

  • @guccigrady1784
    @guccigrady1784 6 месяцев назад +5

    In Loki series season 2 episode 4 when they turned the code off so the variants could use their powers and magic. I wonder what else was going on inside the TVA and if there was mutants in there using their powers and magic to escape the TVA. Also does that mean the infinity stones will work now in the TVA?

    • @ronaldking1054
      @ronaldking1054 6 месяцев назад

      As long as the dampeners are off, yes. Next question is whether the reboot necessarily turned them on, or is it a Jurassic Park moment where the dampeners will stay off until capacitors are charged, which allow them to be turned on.

    • @thaUnWavering
      @thaUnWavering 6 месяцев назад

      Infinity Stone aren't considered magic, more like natural energy of the universe put into small packages. But they would only work in the universe they are originally from. Learned that in "What If" if I recall correctly

  • @quinnsnextstep
    @quinnsnextstep 6 месяцев назад +1

    Ignore the scars? That seems to be a point everyone should keep an eye on as that would indicate where and who on the timeline this variant of Kang is, even if they're the same He Who Remains character.

  • @kylecarter1599
    @kylecarter1599 6 месяцев назад +1

    The Void is in the quantum realm. Janet says in Quantumania that Hank couldnt see past The Void and Sub-Atomica to see where she was hiding from Kang.

  • @jonathanhadden7157
    @jonathanhadden7157 6 месяцев назад

    Read Adam Warlock #11. This was the 1st Marvel character to trap the remainder of his life to be a time -loop where he knows everything that's going to happen with no ability to change it. One of the coolest aspects of his character has been compromised to be used elsewhere within the MCU.

  • @rafaelnunez3987
    @rafaelnunez3987 6 месяцев назад

    I'm not sure if this was mentioned but when renslayer drop the tva book in the window she was in the sacred time line....Now when loki and mobius went to that same window but then enter another tva door they entered a branch time line the whole time so we been watching a variant of a variant and not the real he who remains from the sacred time line .....from loki season 1